@@aeway_ Under andre verdenskrig var Norge såpass utslitt økonomisk at Jugoslavia sendte gryn til Norge for at nordmenn ikke skulle sulte. Jugoslavia altså, som var okkupert og hadde en betydelig verre situasjon enn Norge med både folket sitt i konsentrasjonsleir og alt. Norge var i en ganske ræva posisjon før olje og de eldre generasjonene vet det svært godt. Man kan jo tenke seg hvor mye bedre det kunne bli etter krigen, ikke veldig mye bedre men kun litt.
There is a horror movie like unease to this film. Framing the old and warm as center whilst having the new and cold in the background like an approaching threat.
Nice work, looking at this video, you could probably remake it today with close to 90% accuracy as the most modern builds have been built on lots that wasnt in use these days. Most of these locations are still possible to visit today. Just more Teslas arpund i guess ☺️☺️
Filmen ble laget i to versjoner av gruppe smalfilmamatører i 1967 og 1968. Arne Strand var fotograf (sammen med Audun Engh) på første versjon og produksjonsleder på nr 2. Manus og regi ble besørget av Jon Gisle og Kjell Madsen. Kommentarene ble skrevet og lest av Jan Bjurgren.
Jeg visste ikke engang om deichmanske bibliotek på Arne Garborgs plass på grunn av y-blokka, flott bygg som burde få tilbake sin tidligere synlighet i byen.
@@Angel-Wulff The city centre was better in 68 before all the ugly taller buildings was built. Also this was before immigration started. A black or brown man would be a rarity in 1968. Immigration in the 70's and 80's made Oslo a more multicultural city in a positive way. But everything changed for the worse after 2000s until today. 20% of the population are now muslims, believe it or not. It's getting out of control. Crime rate is much higher.
@@bardo0007 I mean the building thing was inevetable, as times goes on, there will come other buildings that replace the old ones. It is subjective if you think they are ugly or not (though I somewhat agree with you). The thing with immigration is partially true, though I think saying that Norway is a horrible place to live just because of that (which is largely a Oslo/big city thing) is unfair. + I don't think people are aware of how important immigration actually is for Norway. Norway would experience huge poppulation decline if we stopped immigration. Whether or not it is good for the culture of Norway is a different debate though.
Modernism has done a lot of damage to this city that once had many more beautiful places.
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Ja, men må nok si at mye i Oslo var styggere før i tiden også. Nesten like dårlige boforhold endel steder, som i gamle dager i Englands arbeiderstrøk også (kanskje litt bedre, men ikke mye).
You're probably right, but they could have made more effort to make the newly constructed areas more beautiful. For being such a rich and developed country, the architecture in general looks very poor and underdeveloped. White and gray boxes with hardly any details or colors are the standard. Norway and other countries can do so much better than that! Architecture is also related to living conditions. And in many countries, old and poorly constructed buildings were preserved and renovated to make them suitable for today's standards, without losing the old character. I'm not saying traditional architecture is the answer to everything, but there are so many ways to design beautiful buildings. Yet, boring boxes are the standard. I'm not from Norway btw.
@@leothecat9609 I get the point, but that's not what I mean. You can build beautiful and with a far better living standard as well. Combine these two and you have the solution.
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@@markuserikssen I actually agree with you, there are too many of the modern buildings that are too modernist and sort of boring. However. This isn' the US or China, up until very recently, Oslo was always poorer than Copenhagen or Stockholm. And the reason for the somewhat cheap buildings are 1. prices (on both labor and materials) which are way higher than in poor or semi-poor countries, 2. pop. density, which makes it so that property prices are lower and less demanded than in say the US, UK or the Netherlands. 3. history - as late as say 1955, buildings taller than around 5 floors were extremely rare. I think Norwegians back in 1950 would regard a 6 floor building as tall. Also, we're quite 'tight' with Denmark and Denmark barely had anything approaching skyscrapers as late as the year 2000. We also had a bit of the same culture that didn't really like scrapers much. Last but not least, developers just do not seem willing to spend any extra money and just "make a building" with little regard to esthetics, this again comes to prices of many things being high, and also the amount of rules and regulations we have that also increase price. So maybe they don't have money for anything extra. Oh one more last thing: While I agree, I can't say I think everything being built in the UK or US is beautiful either, in fact in a lot of cases it's worse than what gets built in Norway. I don't understand this tendency of considering stuff "s*cking" in Norway, while they admire the UK and the US which in the same thing is WORSE. Like, I've personally seen people diss Norway/Oslo for things/buildings that they 40 years ago would admire in London or New York. WHY? Is it because Norway has low international status or what?
I just randomly clicked this video and was brought images from the street i live in now. Interesting to see how it looked back in the old days.
Interessant film. Rart å se landet og hovedstaden noen få år før oljeeventyret endret alt. Ikke mange forfallene bygninger og bakgårder igjen i dag.
Vi har en masse skinnende og kule bladerunner bygg nå, forfallet begrenser seg heldigvis bare til menneskene
Har ikke like mye med oljen å gjøre som mange tror da, vi lå ganske godt an i forhold til resten av Europa på den tiden også.
@@aeway_ Under andre verdenskrig var Norge såpass utslitt økonomisk at Jugoslavia sendte gryn til Norge for at nordmenn ikke skulle sulte. Jugoslavia altså, som var okkupert og hadde en betydelig verre situasjon enn Norge med både folket sitt i konsentrasjonsleir og alt. Norge var i en ganske ræva posisjon før olje og de eldre generasjonene vet det svært godt. Man kan jo tenke seg hvor mye bedre det kunne bli etter krigen, ikke veldig mye bedre men kun litt.
Having recently moved to Oslo last year, I deeply appreciated learning about the city's history through this film.
0:00 - Nocturne in A-flat Major, Op. 32 No. 2
0:30 - Waltz in F minor, Op. 70 No. 2
3:40 - Etude in C Minor, Op. 10 No. 12
4:19 - Mephisto Waltz No. 1, S. 514
4:40 - Waltz in F Minor, Op. 70 No. 2
Note (no pun intended): The music in the video loops quite a lot which is how a barely 2-minute-long waltz fills out 4 minutes of footage.
4:06 Ah! good to know we are not far from the citys most modern shopping mæl!
...this is actually, exactly how an southern Irish speaker would pronounce "mall". 😀
There is a horror movie like unease to this film.
Framing the old and warm as center whilst having the new and cold in the background like an approaching threat.
3:12 er dette siloen som sto der "kubaen" ovenfor Vulkan er i dag?
Helt nydelig
Veldig fin film
A lovely video ❤
Fantastisk
Nice work, looking at this video, you could probably remake it today with close to 90% accuracy as the most modern builds have been built on lots that wasnt in use these days.
Most of these locations are still possible to visit today.
Just more Teslas arpund i guess ☺️☺️
kamera arne strand - samme som redaktøren?
Filmen ble laget i to versjoner av gruppe smalfilmamatører i 1967 og 1968. Arne Strand var fotograf (sammen med Audun Engh) på første versjon og produksjonsleder på nr 2. Manus og regi ble besørget av Jon Gisle og Kjell Madsen. Kommentarene ble skrevet og lest av Jan Bjurgren.
I'm glad I don't see any Tesla cars 😂
Fantastisk! Bood lenge i Fredensborgveien og her var det masse gode skudd jeg kjente igjen.
Jeg visste ikke engang om deichmanske bibliotek på Arne Garborgs plass på grunn av y-blokka, flott bygg som burde få tilbake sin tidligere synlighet i byen.
Wonder what all the locations he filmed in are
Places in oslo ❤ As a local you would recognise tons
Ting har forandra seg
Men ikke alt
Sett denne flerfoldige ganger, mange kjente scener fra rundt Konowsgate og oppover Ekebergskrenten i Gamlebyen i begynnelsen.
I know it's just a video but this really strikes me as a literally perfect society. Tell me, what problems at all did Norway in 1968 have?
What problems *didn't* they have? Norway is a horrible country to live in, it was no better in those days.
@@Krutknecktwhy do you think Norway is so bad to live in?
You shouldn't let an old video of little city you think seems nice trick you into thinking it's perfect, or even necessarily good.
@@Angel-Wulff The city centre was better in 68 before all the ugly taller buildings was built. Also this was before immigration started. A black or brown man would be a rarity in 1968. Immigration in the 70's and 80's made Oslo a more multicultural city in a positive way. But everything changed for the worse after 2000s until today. 20% of the population are now muslims, believe it or not. It's getting out of control. Crime rate is much higher.
@@bardo0007 I mean the building thing was inevetable, as times goes on, there will come other buildings that replace the old ones. It is subjective if you think they are ugly or not (though I somewhat agree with you). The thing with immigration is partially true, though I think saying that Norway is a horrible place to live just because of that (which is largely a Oslo/big city thing) is unfair. + I don't think people are aware of how important immigration actually is for Norway. Norway would experience huge poppulation decline if we stopped immigration. Whether or not it is good for the culture of Norway is a different debate though.
Digger dette
Akk ja, det var dengang.
Modernism has done a lot of damage to this city that once had many more beautiful places.
Ja, men må nok si at mye i Oslo var styggere før i tiden også. Nesten like dårlige boforhold endel steder, som i gamle dager i Englands arbeiderstrøk også (kanskje litt bedre, men ikke mye).
You're probably right, but they could have made more effort to make the newly constructed areas more beautiful. For being such a rich and developed country, the architecture in general looks very poor and underdeveloped. White and gray boxes with hardly any details or colors are the standard. Norway and other countries can do so much better than that! Architecture is also related to living conditions. And in many countries, old and poorly constructed buildings were preserved and renovated to make them suitable for today's standards, without losing the old character. I'm not saying traditional architecture is the answer to everything, but there are so many ways to design beautiful buildings. Yet, boring boxes are the standard. I'm not from Norway btw.
Maybe less beautiful, but far better standard of living
@@leothecat9609 I get the point, but that's not what I mean. You can build beautiful and with a far better living standard as well. Combine these two and you have the solution.
@@markuserikssen I actually agree with you, there are too many of the modern buildings that are too modernist and sort of boring. However. This isn' the US or China, up until very recently, Oslo was always poorer than Copenhagen or Stockholm. And the reason for the somewhat cheap buildings are 1. prices (on both labor and materials) which are way higher than in poor or semi-poor countries, 2. pop. density, which makes it so that property prices are lower and less demanded than in say the US, UK or the Netherlands. 3. history - as late as say 1955, buildings taller than around 5 floors were extremely rare. I think Norwegians back in 1950 would regard a 6 floor building as tall. Also, we're quite 'tight' with Denmark and Denmark barely had anything approaching skyscrapers as late as the year 2000. We also had a bit of the same culture that didn't really like scrapers much.
Last but not least, developers just do not seem willing to spend any extra money and just "make a building" with little regard to esthetics, this again comes to prices of many things being high, and also the amount of rules and regulations we have that also increase price. So maybe they don't have money for anything extra.
Oh one more last thing: While I agree, I can't say I think everything being built in the UK or US is beautiful either, in fact in a lot of cases it's worse than what gets built in Norway. I don't understand this tendency of considering stuff "s*cking" in Norway, while they admire the UK and the US which in the same thing is WORSE. Like, I've personally seen people diss Norway/Oslo for things/buildings that they 40 years ago would admire in London or New York. WHY? Is it because Norway has low international status or what?
Hey this is great! Very nice vignette of a lovely place I've never been. Am I right in understanding that OP made the piano score for this?
Maybe ? I'm curious too. Either them or Thor Steenersen, as both names are under the credits for 'sound:'.
@@ftgv1I wrote the pieces in another comment 👍
Check my other comment
Oversatt ved bruk av AI? Hvem er det egentlig som snakket i utgangspunktet?
Kommentarene blir lest av Jan Bjurgren, som også skrev og leste filmens kommentarer i 1967.
There are so many mistakes and mispronounciations, or rather a lovely Norwegian(?) accent, that AI would struggle to mimic.
Hva babler du om?
Ingen AI kan lage «nordmann-engelsk»
Dette her er ikke KI. Dette er en kortfilm fra 1967 når Engelsk ikke var like utbredt i Norge.
Dette er Engelsk med tykk Norsk aksent.