My goat list is as follows : Best Jiu-jitsu - Tai Tuivasa Best striking - Ben Askrin Best Chin - Johnny Walker Best cardio - Dada 5000 Best fight I.Q. - Michael Chandler Best Record - Karate Hottie Best Ref - Mario Yamasaki
Yep, fighting a 42 year old who hasn’t fought in 3 and a half years and got folded like a lawn chair in his last fight instead of the interim champion who has defended that before jones did knocks him down a peg.
@@eliaspickering6470 Only to casuals.... Aspinall wouldn't even be interim Champion if Jones didn't get hurt, he would be fighting Derrick Lewis right now. Stipe was a legit champion unlike Aspinall. Stipe was a D1 wrestler and Golden Gloves Champion in Boxing, and Aspinall got submitted before meaning his wrestling is questionable ...Stipe is a Bigger threat.
@BETA00009 are you 12? You sound like you're 12. I couldn't ever imagine an actual man saying "cope casual". This sport has the goofiest ass ppl in it's fanbase.
14:58 there is no world where Dustin is ahead of Charles that's the dumbest possible take.. Dustin has never even touched gold, Charles has DEFENDED arguably twice and literally beat Dustin himself 😭
@@xblissfulleexno, because when they were both in their primes Volk went 3-0 on him. If max beats Illia, lopes, mosvar, then moves up and gets double champ he becomes the second greatest of all time and Volk gets pushed ahead of jones / GSP
@@Deathtozod max is 32 right now, not 29. And you can’t say it was a “bad version of Holloway” that his literally not lost a fw for 9 years except to the champ. Everyone said Holloway was hitting his second prime after that Calvin Katter record performance, and after that Volk 3 happened. He’s always been that good, Volk is now in his mid-late 30s at a light weight class with a cracked chin
People clown on Islam for beating featherweights when said former featherweights are simply better than everyone else in the Div. Like what type of braindead logic is that. Max just styles on gaethje, but if Islam beats max it’s not impressive because max is a featherweight. Make it make sense.
@@ASthe5th He got ko'ed in the first round, how would a full camp have helped him in not getting out in the first round? if he had lost in the later rounds then we'd all agree with you but islam won fair n square
@@ASthe5thpeople 100% do. I’ve seen people see even if max beats Illia and defends Islam “shouldn’t fight another 45er”. If Islam beats Arman he’s beat the 155 challenges
@@iron-t9t To be honest, I think even the chinny post-Islam 2 Volk could have won with a better gameplan, he was having some success before getting slumped
Khabib doesn't have the strongest resume, we put him up there because of his dominance, for having only lost a couple of rounds across 29 fights. The dude never bled once, that's why he's up there.
Not really surprising he was dominant when he fought cans for his first 16 fights and mainly fought people with poor ground game when he’s one of the best wrestlers in the sport
@@Cheifsergio Actually most / all fighters figh "cans" in their early days .. How many fighters that fight"cans" in their early day still undefeated? Not many, low percentage... But why u just keep attacks Khabib resumes? . "mainly fought people with poor ground game"... this is MMA. There is level..
The way Lucas says people will rewrite history to downplay current greats is exactly what he does to past greats 😂. "People are gonna say aw he beat a washed volk or he beat Dan hooker who wasn't a good fighter" in a mocking tone, then "aw Jones beat Shogun" in a mocking tone.
Khabib performed better than Bryce did against Edson, though they both performed well. More importantly, Khabib fought a prime lightweight Edson, whereas Bryce fought an old featherweight Edson. Khabib got 89 significant strikes, and Bryce got 34.
even khabib's win against RDA is underrated..RDA was in his peak form and was on a 5 win streak then lost to khabib then went on another 5 win streak to become champ.
Yh it's shud be obvs to everyone, including volk that taking that fight so soon after the Islam knock out was stupid. Deffo would have been diff with prime volk. But still crazy that Ilia flattened him, something Max couldn't do in 3 fights.
In terms of GOAT lists (including inside of their weight class) We should also consider quality of fights and their records as well. Oliveira's submission record definitely adds to his importance.
In a lot of sports, I think the GSP "Gracie logic" makes sense, for example, the Babe Ruth of 1920s probably wouldn't touch some of the pitchers today, but the gap between him and the players of his era was SO big, he was hitting more homeruns than entire teams and that matters. But in mma, what Gracie was doing compared to today was a completely different sport, it wasn't a competition between "mixed martial artists" it was a competition between different martial arts.
@@monkeybara Ya I think the eyes and stats are basically 2 different pieces of the puzzle and there's kind of an interesting relationship between them. Like you said, they're both types of proof or evidence, and I think you need them both to get the best picture. The eyes are the first thing that provide us with evidence, but the eyes can oftentimes be deceived, so stats give us another set of evidence to either support or contradict what we think we saw. But at the same time, stats can also be deceiving, so you have to rely on your eyes and your logic to analyze them. Like I said it's kind of an interesting back and forth relationship
I don’t get calling Oliveira’s resume overrated. Why take into account non-prime wins that much. His prime was the mid-end of that 11 fight win streak. In those fights were his best opponents. THATS WHAT HIS RESUME IS BASED OFF. Stop this attempt at a hot take Flukas.
@@broto2982Lmao what that’s to much, if he beats max he’s top 10, max is top 10 and ilia would beat the best version of max we have seen, and one of the best versions of volk
The biggest problem with the goat conversation is that the so called "greatest of all time" changes every like 10 years? Like first it was fedor then gsp now a lot of people wanna say Jones, at least basketball people kept it as MJ for like 40 years lmao.
lucas i’m very happy you are back ❤️ :) i hope you will start livestreaming again soon & i wish for you to know that i am/will be less annoying than before 😅
haven’t watched the video, but for me DDP has the most underrated resume/career. That’s mainly due to his close fight with Sean (so the hate from them) and the Izzy fan boys (and the hate from them) the guys beaten Trevin Giles, Brad Tavares, Darren Till, Derek Brunson, Robert Whittaker, Sean Strickland and Israel Adesanya. Yet people act like he’s not a real champion. mind boggling
Alex is literally two wins away from becoming the MMA GOAT. If he bests Ank and then gorst up and bests Tommy, he is the GOAT and it will take a hot second until we have someone that can do something similar.
Hes barely the 3rd best lightweight. His '5 Champions' resume is overrated cuz 4 out of those 5 champions have 0 title defences and wouldn't even be top 5 in the lightweight division
14:40 you didn’t mention Charles beat Ton6 Ferguson while he was still somewhat in his prime, before Chandler head kicked him. This is a solid win for Charles that elevates his resume.
Volk prepared well with a six month camp for the first fight. Volk tried to become the lightweight champion, didn't work out for him. That "featherweight" Volk still beats the likes of Poirier and Gaethje and maybe even Oliveira. The same argument goes for people like Max Holloway and Alex Pereira and Jon Jones moving up and down weight classes, but nobody ever says those about them. You retain your martial arts skills even if you move up or down a weight class, the only change perhaps is that you can move around a bit faster or a bit slower, and that your strikes and wrestling would be a bit heavier or a bit lighter. For adjacent weight classes that difference wouldn't even be noticeable. Anyways, "Stipe got beat by a light heavyweight past his prime" applies to both Jones and DC. Those who'd say things like that don't have an inkling of an idea about how the sport works.
The Edson who fought Khabib was a much different Edson who’s at fw.. See the deal about Khabib is ppl say he never fought grapplers which isn’t true his debut was an Olympian and he ragdolled him. A national champion wrestler got records set in him. The guys who he fought early in his career were much better grapplers then later. But yall don’t know that. Then how can you deny the guys in his team who KILL everyone yet they and dc and the coaches all clearly say Khabib never lost to anyone ever. Islam the only one to win some rounds. Not even fkn belal. Ask belal about Khabib.
@@CRT4Dummies but in all honesty it’s fine debating him as the goat or not. Like even ppl who say he couldn’t strike do he can’t be I understand that. But he actually had decent if not good boxing. But I think he’s the goat because it’s a fight his striking isn’t a key in the fight. And no one can stop him. It’s the truth. Any person who is good at grappling ask them about Khabib. John danher Gordon Ryan of course wrestlers but even the best ppl in bjj love Khabib
@@opietaylor5778 i agree. he didnt need striking. that was the whole point. his metagame made striking irrelevant. everybody knew exactly what he was going to do and nobody could even slow him down, much less stop him. khabib is the g.o.a.t and there is no debate to be had about it
Bro says oliveiras win over chandler is "alright" but then goes to justin gaethjes win over Chandler "that's a really good win" Flukes tracy is losing Aura ladies and gentlemen
Jon Jones being undefeated (yes, he beat Reyes too) and a 16-time world champion in the two hardest divisions to compete in makes him and his résumé miles ahead compared to other fighters
In broad strokes yes but in reality there is some things to pick at one being all the guys he fought early where washed look at there records post Jon jones and later on he had close fights against not that high level opponents the best person he fought dc was 38 and super short and undersized. Also lack of finishes later on against low level op and steroids, in higher weight class not beating current gen of fighter
My brother LHW only had 25-35 fighters in it when Jones was champ. The division was and still is extremely shallow that only takes away from Jones goat argument. LHW has always been very low skilled even if it was the popular division for awhile with names like Shogun, Rampage and Liddell
Islams good. But the guy has only defended against one true lightweight. Thats his highest profile fight. He can’t be close to GOAT without actually accomplishing more in his division.
Cuz they're bad, comparatively ofc. Do you not believe the sport of MMA has grown substantially and upgraded substantially since then in terms of technique and athleticism?
What people don’t understand about Ilia is that his ability to adjust to the fight is very good. When he was able to close the distance against Jai Herbert was great, how was able to make a game-plan for emmet, more back stepping and shoulder rolling, aggressive counter striking. He is very good at picking a part his opponents weakness. That’s why i think he can beat Max
Islam actually has a way better resume than Khabib “i fight 14 year olds on carpets for MMA record” Nurmagomedov (look up Khabib vs Shamil Abdulkerimov)
you forgot merab also beat cejudo which means he has beaten 3 former and 1 active champions in a row, i think thats why he wants to fight figgy next so much, he wants to have as many champions on his record as possible.
Belal, highly underrated. Dude has a beast resume and like you said, that win streak is incredible. If he beats shavkat, that should put him in the conversation as one of the GOATs of that division. Tall task, but sheesh. It's ridiculous at this point to deny him.
That Topuria argument was on the spectrum lmao. - Says Topuria is pretty much top 10 of all time - Has only Volk on his resumé - Lucas gives him Max Holloway despite the fight not even happening yet. - compares him to Khabib despite not defending his belt a single time - Takes away Khabib's best wins to make Topuria look good. Don't forget to pull his pants up for him when you're done.
@@tian5768 Get more title defenses. He doesn't even need to go up a weight class to get a top 10 resumé. He can literally just get 3 more title defenses and retire undefeated and no one in their right mind would Say that he's outside the top 5 greatest.
@@Red-mc5ee The problem is, all of Usman's title wins aged very bad Israel had at least guys like Rob and Alex who age good Both are top 15 for me tho
So sick of all this dissing on Jones opponents none were ever welterweights they were middleweights and champs but do you think 32-year old rampage, shogun or Lyoto and Rashad are an easy fight, two of them KOd Chuck Lidell and he was a light heavyweight legend
@@CRT4Dummies and beat both guys brutally. Who else has a better claim? Jones? Who legit needed to cheat against every opponent he’s ever had and has arguably lost more time than gsp if we actually get into the nitty gritty of it, even despite his ped abuse, eye pokes, grounded knees etc
I love that you can always tell that there's a giant big meaty hook laugh just under every word Lucas says Lmaoo😂 You can tell he loves this sshit, and that's why we love our GOAT LUCAS THE GOAT GAZIEV!! i disagree with you on dobronx though
Underrated: Shamil Gaziev
Overrated: Benoit Saint Denis
BLOB MAFIA RISE UP! WE OWN THIS GAME.
Thanks for love my bratha ❤
@@ShamilTheBlobGazievwassup fatty
The true future goat
That would be fair if there were more than like 5 people hyping up BSD😂
My goat list is as follows :
Best Jiu-jitsu - Tai Tuivasa
Best striking - Ben Askrin
Best Chin - Johnny Walker
Best cardio - Dada 5000
Best fight I.Q. - Michael Chandler
Best Record - Karate Hottie
Best Ref - Mario Yamasaki
😂
Best example of what a fighter should represent- Jon Jones
BEST IN THE WORLD - CM PUNK
Dada 5000 had heart attack because his cardio was pushing the limits of human endurance🔥
Nah buddy, Angela Hill deserves the spot you gave to karate hottie
This is how legends are made
BJP🇨🇿
@@Red-mc5eecute as hell
THUNDER HEAR THE THUNDER, LIGHTNING IN THE THUNDER
I want Jiri to bounce back and walk out to "This is my Fight Song" and then brutally maul Jamahal
WOOOOAAAAOOO
Heh, I’m glad ya asked….. we gon find out Saturday night baby!
It is what it is
October 26th brotha
When bro? Can you remind me 🧐
Come find out Saturday night
At the end of the day brotha
Flukas has a underrated resume of barbers hes tkod against the fence with clobbering overhands
People forget, man…
LMFAOOOOOO
@@WangaMphanamaBig meaty hooks 🎶 big meaty hooks 🎶 I’m throwing big meaty hooks all damn damn night 🎶 biiiig meaty hooks
@@WangaMphanama😂god i love these comment sections
Broccoli haired goblin couldn't knock out a preschooler 😂
7:02 Beating stipe at this point might move him down the goat list
Yep, fighting a 42 year old who hasn’t fought in 3 and a half years and got folded like a lawn chair in his last fight instead of the interim champion who has defended that before jones did knocks him down a peg.
@@eliaspickering6470 Only to casuals.... Aspinall wouldn't even be interim Champion if Jones didn't get hurt, he would be fighting Derrick Lewis right now. Stipe was a legit champion unlike Aspinall.
Stipe was a D1 wrestler and Golden Gloves Champion in Boxing, and Aspinall got submitted before meaning his wrestling is questionable ...Stipe is a Bigger threat.
@@eliaspickering6470 still prolly a top 6 fighter at HW would better than marcin tybura and spivak
@@mxbblife_mu Ha ha Haaaaa, stipe would’ve been a threat 4 years ago. Dude has a limp now.
@@eliaspickering6470 if you believe that then you believe in Santa Claus he's 42 if he has a bad leg he has to pull out.
And people think khabib is still LW king 😭 Islam>
He is your king
Wtf are you talking about
Khabib’s LW resume is better. Islam is higher all time.
khabib is invisible unlike makhachev
he's not complete fighter as makhachev but he know how to get the job done without talking any damage
Islam's resume is already so much better than padded Khabib. Plus he has commitment towards the sport.
Jon Jones greatest win is Scottie Pippen
He never fight with me bratha
@@ShamilTheBlobGaziev of course not bratha we all know Jon jones would never fight you 🦆
@@dominicnava2849the Boys are trash this year 😔
His wife
@@AnnoyedFrog-wu1zi no creativity
Increasing the budget on the editing to stay ahead of the competition is a crafty vet move. Reminds me of your old videos.
@@CaseOhClips21 lmfao
7:40 - This mf said Scottie Pippen ☠️
Lost all credibility even tho I understand what he was saying
@@Rayfield-k3l: If you did you’d understand it wasn’t incorrect cope casual😂
@BETA00009 are you 12? You sound like you're 12. I couldn't ever imagine an actual man saying "cope casual". This sport has the goofiest ass ppl in it's fanbase.
2:46 Tracy you were a toddler in those days lmao
Bro that's exactly what I was thinking 😂 Like bro you were still shitting your diapers at that point
Your hair is hilarious lol
@@JamieReynolds89bro you dream about ufc lmao
Exactly, Bro's only experienced Pride through youtube
@@DecodingWithJordan huh?
Finally someone talks about Belals resume.
Who
@@toby099The goat
@@yassermmh6772can’t seem to remember the name
@@trulymagic3972 I don't want to remember your face tho 🤢
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 Best response😂😂
14:58 there is no world where Dustin is ahead of Charles that's the dumbest possible take..
Dustin has never even touched gold, Charles has DEFENDED arguably twice and literally beat Dustin himself 😭
Better resume doesnt mean better fighter, it just means you did more or did better stuff
Well technically olives has only one title defense. He lost the belt by missing weight against gaethje
One title defense missed weight like 6 times already so no excuse for that weight bully
@@Polar-Bloophe missed weight in Fw when he realized that he was cutting to much weight
@@vincentw3566 when he realize he can't weight bully anymore
Listening to Lucas argue with himself over shit he makes up on the fly is hilarious 😂
and using the uk accent too
If Islam beats Arman fights and beats Holloway at LW then he quite literally has the best resume of all time
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that if max holloway wins it pushes volk up the goat list
unbelievably true
But ultimately pushes Max higher than him
@@xblissfulleexno, because when they were both in their primes Volk went 3-0 on him. If max beats Illia, lopes, mosvar, then moves up and gets double champ he becomes the second greatest of all time and Volk gets pushed ahead of jones / GSP
@@zeze-oo2rh Max was not in his prime, though. He is in his prime now (29).
@@Deathtozod max is 32 right now, not 29. And you can’t say it was a “bad version of Holloway” that his literally not lost a fw for 9 years except to the champ. Everyone said Holloway was hitting his second prime after that Calvin Katter record performance, and after that Volk 3 happened. He’s always been that good, Volk is now in his mid-late 30s at a light weight class with a cracked chin
People clown on Islam for beating featherweights when said former featherweights are simply better than everyone else in the Div. Like what type of braindead logic is that. Max just styles on gaethje, but if Islam beats max it’s not impressive because max is a featherweight. Make it make sense.
They dont tho. Its because Volk took it on short notice and wasnt anywhere near his best.
Gamrot and arman would smudge max into the canvas for 25 minutes in a fight night main event on any Saturday of the year
@@ASthe5th He got ko'ed in the first round, how would a full camp have helped him in not getting out in the first round? if he had lost in the later rounds then we'd all agree with you but islam won fair n square
@@ASthe5thislam already beat him before and the short notice excuse doesn't work here because it was a first round Ko , get better
@@ASthe5thpeople 100% do. I’ve seen people see even if max beats Illia and defends Islam “shouldn’t fight another 45er”. If Islam beats Arman he’s beat the 155 challenges
Is this video just an excuse to glaze Volk?
We'll find out October 26th brudda..
@@saulspanco854Like actually, if max could beat ilia, people would agree more that volk showed up too early
Why islam so high, beat 5ft6 at lightweight twice..wow
@@iron-t9t To be honest, I think even the chinny post-Islam 2 Volk could have won with a better gameplan, he was having some success before getting slumped
@@xavierb9061hey, that 5’6 guy is one of the greats
🎵Big meaty hooks. Big meaty hooks. I'm throwing big meaty hooks 🎵
Khabib doesn't have the strongest resume, we put him up there because of his dominance, for having only lost a couple of rounds across 29 fights. The dude never bled once, that's why he's up there.
The way a young khabib drowned in prime rda was scary
People really forget
Not really surprising he was dominant when he fought cans for his first 16 fights and mainly fought people with poor ground game when he’s one of the best wrestlers in the sport
@@Cheifsergio Actually most / all fighters figh "cans" in their early days .. How many fighters that fight"cans" in their early day still undefeated? Not many, low percentage... But why u just keep attacks Khabib resumes?
.
"mainly fought people with poor ground game"... this is MMA. There is level..
Tibau. No way chandler isnt war. Dana brought for him
Bro I was screaming HENRY CEJUDO when Lucas was searching for the Merab wins 😭😭 Bro litteraly beat him this year and couldn’t remember
If you’re making a video about resumes I can’t help but feel like having a tab open where you can see their resumes might have been a boon 😂
The way Lucas says people will rewrite history to downplay current greats is exactly what he does to past greats 😂. "People are gonna say aw he beat a washed volk or he beat Dan hooker who wasn't a good fighter" in a mocking tone, then "aw Jones beat Shogun" in a mocking tone.
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Khabib performed better than Bryce did against Edson, though they both performed well. More importantly, Khabib fought a prime lightweight Edson, whereas Bryce fought an old featherweight Edson. Khabib got 89 significant strikes, and Bryce got 34.
even khabib's win against RDA is underrated..RDA was in his peak form and was on a 5 win streak then lost to khabib then went on another 5 win streak to become champ.
Flukas' face when Mark Coleman is mentioned 😂
We gon find out Saturday night brudda
let's find out come october 26th baby
People forget man Lucas can always chit chat about resumes/goat lists!
😂😂
11:25 "Islam makhachev is the one that washed volk". So we all agree that volk was washed when Ilia fought him and the win is not that impressive.
Yh it's shud be obvs to everyone, including volk that taking that fight so soon after the Islam knock out was stupid.
Deffo would have been diff with prime volk.
But still crazy that Ilia flattened him, something Max couldn't do in 3 fights.
@@hamzasajad6355 tbh i feel like anyone with power at 145 would have KOd that version of Volk, even Max
@@hamzasajad6355 what's crazy about ilia knocking out volk? the dude simply has power, and max couldn't do it in 3 fights cuz he doesn't have power.
In terms of GOAT lists (including inside of their weight class) We should also consider quality of fights and their records as well. Oliveira's submission record definitely adds to his importance.
„Reasons: People forget man” is crazy work
BSD has underrated resume
That Poirier ko was crazy and he had one of the most beutal round against moicono
Reporter: “Hey Max, what is that new Lucas Tracy video about?”
Max: “Well find out in 32 minutes brotha.”
Jiri Prochazka has more finishes than Jones has wins.
😂 i love facts
and he did it fighting guys his own size without steroids
@@CRT4Dummies Fighting some real monsters too. Albertsson, and Nemkov. He also murdered the guy that beat Jones.
In a lot of sports, I think the GSP "Gracie logic" makes sense, for example, the Babe Ruth of 1920s probably wouldn't touch some of the pitchers today, but the gap between him and the players of his era was SO big, he was hitting more homeruns than entire teams and that matters. But in mma, what Gracie was doing compared to today was a completely different sport, it wasn't a competition between "mixed martial artists" it was a competition between different martial arts.
The problem is in most sports you can just use your eyes and see how good someone is. Stats are just a way to prove something it isnt the answer
@@monkeybara Ya I think the eyes and stats are basically 2 different pieces of the puzzle and there's kind of an interesting relationship between them. Like you said, they're both types of proof or evidence, and I think you need them both to get the best picture. The eyes are the first thing that provide us with evidence, but the eyes can oftentimes be deceived, so stats give us another set of evidence to either support or contradict what we think we saw. But at the same time, stats can also be deceiving, so you have to rely on your eyes and your logic to analyze them. Like I said it's kind of an interesting back and forth relationship
Make a Goat list without fighters who tested positive for banned substance
then flukas himself is the goat
Peak Flukes Glazy days is so underrated
Shogun Rua “That’s like a Dino name “ lmfao I’m dead
FLUKAS IS BACK WITH ANOTHER BANGER VID
People forget man….flukas changed the game with his big meaty hooks man. So underrated
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Ilia Topuria wasn’t speaking in full sentences a year ago
nobody cares this is MMA not elementary english class
He may get predictions wrong but he is right a lot in these GOAT conversations
Thank the MMA gods for Lucas.. we joke, but your videos really are a necessity!
I don’t get calling Oliveira’s resume overrated. Why take into account non-prime wins that much. His prime was the mid-end of that 11 fight win streak. In those fights were his best opponents. THATS WHAT HIS RESUME IS BASED OFF. Stop this attempt at a hot take Flukas.
Illia top 10 of all time is crazy. You glazing
I mean, beating both Volk and Max would be insane
@@frenzy7666no he’s not top 10. But if he beats max, then beats volk, then beats max then beats lopes he’s top 10
@frenzy7666 crazy yeah.... Top 10 of all time, seriously? If max beats him, he's easily in top 10..
@@broto2982Lmao what that’s to much, if he beats max he’s top 10, max is top 10 and ilia would beat the best version of max we have seen, and one of the best versions of volk
@@llaynescasual, that was the worst volk, he just came off a short notice fight KO against islam
So in summary, whoever beats volk is greatest of all time and have slightly underrated resume. And if you don’t, you have overrated resume
The biggest problem with the goat conversation is that the so called "greatest of all time" changes every like 10 years? Like first it was fedor then gsp now a lot of people wanna say Jones, at least basketball people kept it as MJ for like 40 years lmao.
Jones beat up middleweights and struggled against true light heavyweights every goddamn time. *people forget man*
jones was a juiced up wife beater that only won when he had a 12 inch reach advantage. most ovwrrated fighter in history tbf
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lucas i’m very happy you are back ❤️ :) i hope you will start livestreaming again soon & i wish for you to know that i am/will be less annoying than before 😅
"People don't come back and perform like that. "
-Dana White, asked about Lucas Tracy 's return from retirement.
Man you have one of the most entertaining personalities I have seen , don’t stop the channel , thank you !!!!
haven’t watched the video, but for me DDP has the most underrated resume/career. That’s mainly due to his close fight with Sean (so the hate from them) and the Izzy fan boys (and the hate from them)
the guys beaten Trevin Giles, Brad Tavares, Darren Till, Derek Brunson, Robert Whittaker, Sean Strickland and Israel Adesanya. Yet people act like he’s not a real champion.
mind boggling
our boy is so back
How did you not mention Cejudo when talking about Merab’s wins?
CTE from 2 years of rusty kickboxing
@@LightYagami-tf7igpeople forget man Lucas had some hard rounds with shogun and Fedor back in the day
I know the bouncer at the Salty Spitoon didn’t let flucas in
Alex is literally two wins away from becoming the MMA GOAT. If he bests Ank and then gorst up and bests Tommy, he is the GOAT and it will take a hot second until we have someone that can do something similar.
Ank would maul him on the ground and Tom subs him in R1 with ease, so none of that will matter
On what planet do you live? His resume doesn't stack up against Islam's yet for example. Are people just blindly staring at the labels here?
Hes barely the 3rd best lightweight. His '5 Champions' resume is overrated cuz 4 out of those 5 champions have 0 title defences and wouldn't even be top 5 in the lightweight division
alex got flatlined. he isnt in contention for g.o.a.t
you have to be undefeated to have any argument at all
@dabear7822 yeah, when the standard is undefeated taking L puts you out of the discussion. its not rocket science
13:26 Poor Gaethje on his face has me crying lol😂
Khabib is underrated, Lucas also forgot former champ RDA is also on his resumé
khabib is the g.o.a.t and it isnt even debatable. nobody is even close at this point
14:40 you didn’t mention Charles beat Ton6 Ferguson while he was still somewhat in his prime, before Chandler head kicked him. This is a solid win for Charles that elevates his resume.
Fedor would’ve broke Blaydes face just like Aspinal did
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He would get taken down and beaten up bro
"He beat volkanovski in his prime"
Another way of saying it would be: He barely beat Volk, who is a featherweight, in his prime.
Volk prepared well with a six month camp for the first fight. Volk tried to become the lightweight champion, didn't work out for him. That "featherweight" Volk still beats the likes of Poirier and Gaethje and maybe even Oliveira. The same argument goes for people like Max Holloway and Alex Pereira and Jon Jones moving up and down weight classes, but nobody ever says those about them. You retain your martial arts skills even if you move up or down a weight class, the only change perhaps is that you can move around a bit faster or a bit slower, and that your strikes and wrestling would be a bit heavier or a bit lighter. For adjacent weight classes that difference wouldn't even be noticeable. Anyways, "Stipe got beat by a light heavyweight past his prime" applies to both Jones and DC. Those who'd say things like that don't have an inkling of an idea about how the sport works.
Jon Jones also has the most failed PED tests of UFC champions, idk how you can put him on a goat his.
Good stuff, Lucas. Agree with almost all of your judgments in this video.
The Edson who fought Khabib was a much different Edson who’s at fw.. See the deal about Khabib is ppl say he never fought grapplers which isn’t true his debut was an Olympian and he ragdolled him. A national champion wrestler got records set in him. The guys who he fought early in his career were much better grapplers then later. But yall don’t know that. Then how can you deny the guys in his team who KILL everyone yet they and dc and the coaches all clearly say Khabib never lost to anyone ever. Islam the only one to win some rounds. Not even fkn belal. Ask belal about Khabib.
khabib is the g.o.a.t and it isnt even debatable
@@CRT4Dummies yeah to smart ppl.
@@CRT4Dummies I just read your name and that’s funny.
@@CRT4Dummies but in all honesty it’s fine debating him as the goat or not. Like even ppl who say he couldn’t strike do he can’t be I understand that. But he actually had decent if not good boxing. But I think he’s the goat because it’s a fight his striking isn’t a key in the fight. And no one can stop him. It’s the truth. Any person who is good at grappling ask them about Khabib. John danher Gordon Ryan of course wrestlers but even the best ppl in bjj love Khabib
@@opietaylor5778 i agree. he didnt need striking. that was the whole point. his metagame made striking irrelevant.
everybody knew exactly what he was going to do and nobody could even slow him down, much less stop him.
khabib is the g.o.a.t and there is no debate to be had about it
Bro says oliveiras win over chandler is "alright" but then goes to justin gaethjes win over Chandler "that's a really good win"
Flukes tracy is losing Aura ladies and gentlemen
Lucas with no Hat again? We’re so back
People forget how legendary Jon Jones performance against Scottie Pippen was
Dude GSPs GOAT list just showed he's a casual!
L maaan that’s a real hardcores goat list
Surprised I didn't come across this channel earlier
Amazing analysis
Jon Jones being undefeated (yes, he beat Reyes too) and a 16-time world champion in the two hardest divisions to compete in makes him and his résumé miles ahead compared to other fighters
In broad strokes yes but in reality there is some things to pick at one being all the guys he fought early where washed look at there records post Jon jones and later on he had close fights against not that high level opponents the best person he fought dc was 38 and super short and undersized. Also lack of finishes later on against low level op and steroids, in higher weight class not beating current gen of fighter
My brother LHW only had 25-35 fighters in it when Jones was champ. The division was and still is extremely shallow that only takes away from Jones goat argument. LHW has always been very low skilled even if it was the popular division for awhile with names like Shogun, Rampage and Liddell
Islams good. But the guy has only defended against one true lightweight. Thats his highest profile fight. He can’t be close to GOAT without actually accomplishing more in his division.
Already know that he’s going to hate on any pre 2016 fighter like he does every video 😂🤡
Cuase they kinda suck
Cuz they're bad, comparatively ofc. Do you not believe the sport of MMA has grown substantially and upgraded substantially since then in terms of technique and athleticism?
@@zappersolo7588then why is gsp still on this untouchable pedestal ?
@@Upoyd no clue
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That's the thing they don't, fighters nowadays are truly overrated.
What people don’t understand about Ilia is that his ability to adjust to the fight is very good. When he was able to close the distance against Jai Herbert was great, how was able to make a game-plan for emmet, more back stepping and shoulder rolling, aggressive counter striking. He is very good at picking a part his opponents weakness. That’s why i think he can beat Max
ili apturo illl box his jaw r in lil ding dong of a ting he is ye
Wait a minute, please give us more UFC 308 scoops
Islam actually has a way better resume than Khabib “i fight 14 year olds on carpets for MMA record” Nurmagomedov (look up Khabib vs Shamil Abdulkerimov)
How the hell is Lyoto not on this list?He literally has more than 6 champions in his resume
Rua doesn’t count
@@zeze-oo2rh Hawk TUAH rua
because names and numbers on a page are irrelevant
Here from the future after Jon Jones failing his drug test vs Stipe, his picograms are still pulsating
I love how flukas just inserts British or Australian accent whenever for no reason 🤣
20:10 Rafael dos Anjos Lost to khabib then Became Champion
Adesanya overrated resume with a win over Pereira???? That literally puts him in the top 15
you forgot merab also beat cejudo which means he has beaten 3 former and 1 active champions in a row, i think thats why he wants to fight figgy next so much, he wants to have as many champions on his record as possible.
The problem with Khabib is that people who call hom the GOAT mostly talk about what could have been instead of what actually was.
29-0 of pure dominance makes him the g.o.a.t
get over it. you cant do anything about it
@@CRT4Dummiesnah Islam is the goat
@@rayyanmohammed islam will tell you himself he cant beat khabib.
bro every fighter that jones faced in the past was supposed to be the person to beat jones. years later people tarnish his resume. nice
LUCAS IS BACK 😫
2:25 faber for me in those wec days
Tracy’s favorite restaurant is weenie hut juniors 😂
we need a Crafty vets tier list
Flukas Glazy is back in full form
btw, even DC is 8 years older than Jones.
DJs competition is insanely underrated
Overrated*.
@@Red-mc5eeagreed
DJ fought a bunch of cans
Belal, highly underrated. Dude has a beast resume and like you said, that win streak is incredible. If he beats shavkat, that should put him in the conversation as one of the GOATs of that division. Tall task, but sheesh. It's ridiculous at this point to deny him.
Bro the only Underrated thing is your TH-cam channel
looking forward for the goat video
go live lil bro
That Topuria argument was on the spectrum lmao.
- Says Topuria is pretty much top 10 of all time
- Has only Volk on his resumé
- Lucas gives him Max Holloway despite the fight not even happening yet.
- compares him to Khabib despite not defending his belt a single time
- Takes away Khabib's best wins to make Topuria look good.
Don't forget to pull his pants up for him when you're done.
@tian5768 Still not top 10. You can't be on the goat list and have only one defense under your belt.
@@tian5768 Get more title defenses. He doesn't even need to go up a weight class to get a top 10 resumé. He can literally just get 3 more title defenses and retire undefeated and no one in their right mind would Say that he's outside the top 5 greatest.
@@tian5768 Beating Islam is a better achievement, but he has to defend his belt more times or he won't realistically be the goat of his division.
@tian5768 Not what I said. Having 3 title defenses is better for his 145 legacy than beating Islam.
@tian5768 Doesn't matter much. He can't be higher on the goat status if he's not the goat of his own division.
I haven’t even watched the video and I sense Izzy hate incoming
Usman’s resume is more overrated than Izzy’s.
Mate stand ya base stop dick ridin izzy my goodness
@@Red-mc5ee
The problem is, all of Usman's title wins aged very bad
Israel had at least guys like Rob and Alex who age good
Both are top 15 for me tho
@@RealMrSmileyeah and also a good majority of his title wins were against Colby Covington (good win at the time) and Jorge fucking mavsidal (lol)
So sick of all this dissing on Jones opponents none were ever welterweights they were middleweights and champs but do you think 32-year old rampage, shogun or Lyoto and Rashad are an easy fight, two of them KOd Chuck Lidell and he was a light heavyweight legend
All obviously mid
Volk interview 😢😊
Love this kind of content
GSP is not falling into nostalgia. He just doesn't like JJ and Anderson so he is coping his way out of the goat question
Why would he like two PED cheats 😂
@@specialagentdalecooper2080they aren’t bro the picogram
@@joeswanson5486 do you understand what that even means you sped
gsp was great but he got ko'd and subbed. he was never in contention for g.o.a.t
@@CRT4Dummies and beat both guys brutally. Who else has a better claim? Jones? Who legit needed to cheat against every opponent he’s ever had and has arguably lost more time than gsp if we actually get into the nitty gritty of it, even despite his ped abuse, eye pokes, grounded knees etc
I love that you can always tell that there's a giant big meaty hook laugh just under every word Lucas says Lmaoo😂
You can tell he loves this sshit, and that's why we love our GOAT
LUCAS THE GOAT GAZIEV!!
i disagree with you on dobronx though