Thanks very much for the videos on rotation! I bowled my highest set of the summer league after watching. My DV8 Captiv8 became very responsive to friction. Instead of changing balls, I stayed in the same place and just decreased the amount of rotation! Seemed to be a better solution than my Brutal Collison which seemed to use up all it's energy.
Listen. I have too much rev. So with a buddy's advice, I've kept my hand more behind the ball and arm STRAIGHT as possible on release. More behind the ball and straight arm. No flexing it. Shot a 265 a couple days ago. Holleratchaboy
For someone starting out on this technique, I think there is a benefit to learning how to get your hand to finish in the correct axis rotation position without adding the 'playing the inside' mechanism. You are creating multiple variables that make it harder for you to do it consistently. Once you get comfortable being able to create at least three different angles (15°, 45°, 70°) and learning how to use them based on lane conditions, approach metrics, etc., then you can work on getting more revs afterwards.
Great video on rotation. Definitely the most helpful I’ve watched. Especially explaining starting point and revs. I do caution amateurs or people with weak wrist control to try not to worry about staying inside so much. If you physically can’t do it yes you will lose revs but be more consistent. Depends what you what from bowling. Good league player? Pro? I’ve definitely saw the change in rev rate staying inside. Though I think I get too far inside and lose control.
If you want to get really good commit to staying inside. It might be tough but will be worth it. If you can only practice or bowl once a week I would suggest stay with comfort.
So many Bowlers confuse axis rotation and axis tilt. Tilt should be very minimal that vertical tilt but Axis Rotation is horizontal position of the axis so changing that like turning wheels on your car get more side rotation bigger hook potential!
Never heard the part of more revolutions by keeping the hand to the inside before rotating. I used to bowl with my hand on the 3-4 0'clock position to get the hook. Lately I am more behind or inside.
Question, you always talk about getting the thumb out early, (the quicker you get your thumb out the better your rotation will be)but you are rotating the ball with your thumb still in the ball?????
@@StephRenee812 I was able to make it to the Delaware PBA tournament and ask a few questions, sometimes they are not even sure of exactly what they are doing. My favorite release is by Mitch Hupe, if you get a chance, check it out.
Very confusing you tell people to work the inside part of the ball but at the last second your to go around the side of the ball I don't get it. Now your spinning the ball. I don't understand this release. Can you explain this better?
I think you need to understand that keep your hand inside of the ball will give you an opportunity to manipulate the ball more often. The ball would naturally turn your hand and you only have to do is just come through the ball.
Depending on how much rotation you put on the ball (like 80-90 degrees), it will look like you are spinning it around your thumb at release. You are trying to change the direction the ball rolls by rotating your wrist at the right moment in the release. This is based on how well your thumb exits the ball and where you exit the ball (from the back or from the top) as your fingers influence the revs. If you release from the top and you rotate your wrist late, it will spin like a top, or with a high axis tilt. BowlingThisMonth has some articles on axis rotation with good visuals.
I read somewhere that you can get the perfect timing for thumb release simply by pressing your thumbnail against the inside of the hole...instead of squeezing. I'm going to give it a try tonight, but I can't see how I can prevent the ball from falling off my hand in the backswing this way. I guess I'll find out.
@@markfresh2000If you have to squeeze the ball significantly to prevent it from falling off your hand in the backswing, then you have a fit problem. A thumb hole that's too big, and/ or has too much reverse pitch will force you to squeeze the ball... you don't want that. Tell your PSO what's going on and have him check your fit. Span lengths and pitches have changed to facilitate the modern release... the "grip it and rip it" philosophy is pretty much dead.
Squeeze the neck of your thumb. Neck/ the one where your palm and thumb connects. Relax your grip. Make your wrist and forearm are stron. It’s like curling a dumbbell using just your wrist. It will feel like you’re doing arm wrestling. When swinging when the ball, once you drop the ball, you can curl/ under hand so you don’t strain your wrist. When it’s moving forward, flick your wrist to hand shake position really fast.
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Stay super relaxed. Make sure your ball span and thumb hole are really dialed in. Add tape to the thumb hole, use oval slugs ect for better thumb fitment.
Thinking about all the suggestions is NOT what you want / need to do! This is a simple fix from your ball driller...thumb pitch. It's the angle that the hole is drilled into the ball. If you've always gone to the same driller, you may need to find another to work with you IF your current driller refuses to make the required change. The span will need a subtle tweak as well. I was and still am a high rev rate bowler back when we didn't even have the label for it. Looking forward to you experiencing the adrenalen surge of exploding the rack without mercy.... repeeatedly!
Just think of it first as holding the ball in your hand, arm down, facing the pins. If your thumb points towards the pins when you release, you are going 'up the back' with a low axis of rotation. Now twist your wrist towards your opposite hand until your thumb is sideways pointing to the next lane. If you release the ball like that, that is a near 90 degree axis rotation. You still need to have the ball roll off your fingers to impart revs to the ball, or else it just kinda lops down the lane, doing much of nothing. The axis rotation you put on the ball when you release is the direction the ball will want to travel in when it slows down and hits friction at the end of the lane.
How about explain what you’re confused about cuz he didn’t say anything confusing but was actually very helpful for me especially by using the clock ⏰ demonstration and most importantly touching on the point about palm being the thumb for two hander/no thumb Bowlers since I’m one of em.
Best video on where hand needs to start and finish for more rotation.
your videos are getting better and better lately...got me thinking of joining...great job JR!!!
Thanks very much for the videos on rotation! I bowled my highest set of the summer league after watching. My DV8 Captiv8 became very responsive to friction. Instead of changing balls, I stayed in the same place and just decreased the amount of rotation! Seemed to be a better solution than my Brutal Collison which seemed to use up all it's energy.
Listen. I have too much rev. So with a buddy's advice, I've kept my hand more behind the ball and arm STRAIGHT as possible on release.
More behind the ball and straight arm. No flexing it. Shot a 265 a couple days ago. Holleratchaboy
For someone starting out on this technique, I think there is a benefit to learning how to get your hand to finish in the correct axis rotation position without adding the 'playing the inside' mechanism. You are creating multiple variables that make it harder for you to do it consistently. Once you get comfortable being able to create at least three different angles (15°, 45°, 70°) and learning how to use them based on lane conditions, approach metrics, etc., then you can work on getting more revs afterwards.
Great video on rotation. Definitely the most helpful I’ve watched. Especially explaining starting point and revs. I do caution amateurs or people with weak wrist control to try not to worry about staying inside so much. If you physically can’t do it yes you will lose revs but be more consistent. Depends what you what from bowling. Good league player? Pro? I’ve definitely saw the change in rev rate staying inside. Though I think I get too far inside and lose control.
If you want to get really good commit to staying inside. It might be tough but will be worth it. If you can only practice or bowl once a week I would suggest stay with comfort.
Can you explain using xyz axis. Thumb rotation on X fingers being y axis?
JR You nailed it just what i wanted from your last video. Plus no Cody. Hehe
Thank you for the follow-up. Nice job 👍🏼
So many Bowlers confuse axis rotation and axis tilt. Tilt should be very minimal that vertical tilt but Axis Rotation is horizontal position of the axis so changing that like turning wheels on your car get more side rotation bigger hook potential!
Great tip
Thanks JR. Very helpful.
Never heard the part of more revolutions by keeping the hand to the inside before rotating. I used to bowl with my hand on the 3-4 0'clock position to get the hook. Lately I am more behind or inside.
How do you work that with the yoyo release.
Great stuff !!!Thanks
Cool video talk tech bowling Jr Raymond
Video on proper way to increase ball speed instead of all muscle
I like it thanks
Any clinics in Vegas
@@2009ecig there can be if someone wants to help put one together.
Can u try the new motiv supra rally gt 12lb and wut u throw normally. They all the same diff.40 in the in every wieght one seen one video
Question, you always talk about getting the thumb out early, (the quicker you get your thumb out the better your rotation will be)but you are rotating the ball with your thumb still in the ball?????
It looks like maybe the more you get around the ball then that happens. Idk
@@StephRenee812 Then of course they talk about the yo-yo release which for some reason did not make this supposedly PBA release video???????
@@washingtoncountymarylandre3697 I do think the thumb comes out first, and you use your fingertips to almost pull up to give the rotation the spin
@@StephRenee812 I was able to make it to the Delaware PBA tournament and ask a few questions, sometimes they are not even sure of exactly what they are doing. My favorite release is by Mitch Hupe, if you get a chance, check it out.
Very confusing you tell people to work the inside part of the ball but at the last second your to go around the side of the ball I don't get it. Now your spinning the ball. I don't understand this release. Can you explain this better?
I think you need to understand that keep your hand inside of the ball will give you an opportunity to manipulate the ball more often. The ball would naturally turn your hand and you only have to do is just come through the ball.
Depending on how much rotation you put on the ball (like 80-90 degrees), it will look like you are spinning it around your thumb at release. You are trying to change the direction the ball rolls by rotating your wrist at the right moment in the release. This is based on how well your thumb exits the ball and where you exit the ball (from the back or from the top) as your fingers influence the revs. If you release from the top and you rotate your wrist late, it will spin like a top, or with a high axis tilt. BowlingThisMonth has some articles on axis rotation with good visuals.
Staying inside creates torque!
One hander rotation problem, thumb coming out late when trying to increase rotation. How do you get the thumb out faster?
I read somewhere that you can get the perfect timing for thumb release simply by pressing your thumbnail against the inside of the hole...instead of squeezing. I'm going to give it a try tonight, but I can't see how I can prevent the ball from falling off my hand in the backswing this way. I guess I'll find out.
@@markfresh2000If you have to squeeze the ball significantly to prevent it from falling off your hand in the backswing, then you have a fit problem. A thumb hole that's too big, and/ or has too much reverse pitch will force you to squeeze the ball... you don't want that. Tell your PSO what's going on and have him check your fit. Span lengths and pitches have changed to facilitate the modern release... the "grip it and rip it" philosophy is pretty much dead.
Squeeze the neck of your thumb. Neck/ the one where your palm and thumb connects. Relax your grip. Make your wrist and forearm are stron. It’s like curling a dumbbell using just your wrist. It will feel like you’re doing arm wrestling. When swinging when the ball, once you drop the ball, you can curl/ under hand so you don’t strain your wrist. When it’s moving forward, flick your wrist to hand shake position really fast.
Stay super relaxed. Make sure your ball span and thumb hole are really dialed in. Add tape to the thumb hole, use oval slugs ect for better thumb fitment.
Thinking about all the suggestions is NOT what you want / need to do! This is a simple fix from your ball driller...thumb pitch. It's the angle that the hole is drilled into the ball. If you've always gone to the same driller, you may need to find another to work with you IF your current driller refuses to make the required change. The span will need a subtle tweak as well. I was and still am a high rev rate bowler back when we didn't even have the label for it. Looking forward to you experiencing the adrenalen surge of exploding the rack without mercy.... repeeatedly!
Great explanation! Now if I could just get my hand to do that lol!
This is so confusing I don’t get it
Just think of it first as holding the ball in your hand, arm down, facing the pins. If your thumb points towards the pins when you release, you are going 'up the back' with a low axis of rotation. Now twist your wrist towards your opposite hand until your thumb is sideways pointing to the next lane. If you release the ball like that, that is a near 90 degree axis rotation. You still need to have the ball roll off your fingers to impart revs to the ball, or else it just kinda lops down the lane, doing much of nothing. The axis rotation you put on the ball when you release is the direction the ball will want to travel in when it slows down and hits friction at the end of the lane.
How about explain what you’re confused about cuz he didn’t say anything confusing but was actually very helpful for me especially by using the clock ⏰ demonstration and most importantly touching on the point about palm being the thumb for two hander/no thumb Bowlers since I’m one of em.
Other video was perfectly fine ppl just nitpicking, they just expect alll the spoon feeding
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