2K Desperately Begs Gamers to Help Save NBA 2K19 Loot Boxes, Insists They Are a Choice
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Lmao 2k should just focus on selling there game not promoting loot boxes
Hey Yong love the videos although I'd love to see you site your sources in the description.
So Strauss Zelnick must be Andrew Wilson and Todd Howard's illegitimate love child! And Pete Hines is the lawyer!
Would you be alright for the price point for games to change from 60 dollars to 80 dollars if it meant the reduction or elimination of the more shady tactics? The main price point for games has not changed in my memory, but the amount of money that it takes and the number of staff it takes as well as the amount of time it takes to make a good game has certainly increased.
Wow this is a new tactic. Get the fans they have screwed to the wall and back to help them keep screwing them over.
Loot Boxes Are The Cancer Of The VideoGame Industry 💀
BigCreepySleepy and micro transactions
DLC's... sjw's millennials in general.
And microtransactions
Yeah, and the public basically let the cancer spread before they did anything.
Like with Overwatch.
Nah really
You all are being too hard on them. It's obvious they want to speed up their progression of fighting to get loot boxes in Belgium.
So we help them like they've helped us. For $50 you can have 3 letters, there's a 2% chance to have ones supporting your cause in there and 98% against. If you want the premium Letter Box, it's only $99 for 10 letters +1 with a 5% chance of getting ones for your cause with a guarantee of getting at least one good letter. (Chances listed are common drop rates of loot boxes in mobile games)
Why are you not on top? This is a great idea. We should e-mail 2K of this "option".
This is in fact a great idea XD
Got em!
This concept needs to go viral
I love this idea genius.
Before:
Unlockables and cheat codes
Now:
DLC and micro-transactions
This is true, and I fucking hate its the gaming scene we are living through.
Boot What's worse is they Monopolize it. I mean, even though you hated it, you have no choice to buy because of updated roster.
Yeah, it's pathetic. They condition all the players enough to keep buying in too.
Quite sad really.
Also the card pack , back then you can buy and actualy physical card pack and you can get cool stuff and keep it year by year, now is digital card pack which is why the fuck people would buy this digital stuff they're not even yours , once it got deleted , it will gone forever unlike physical card , got burn and gone forever.
Why people buy this so called
"Cool super rare cum skin" when they're not realize it's just a fucking texture. I better buy expensive food rather than expensive useless skin that you can make on your own.
The problem is that too many idiots are spending money on theses loot boxes. They’re in the game because the developers know people will buy them. These people don’t know the harm they are doing by purchasing this crap.
2K: Thanks for the money losers!
2K after losing their loot boxes: HELP US, LOSERS!
Sounds about right.
Huh neat
Lol
Change the word from 'losers' to 'cocksuckers' and you'd be right on.
O thought this was a futurama reference but then i realize it was robin Williams...
Im miss both of them
Microtransactions should be banned from all full price games. They are cancer and ruin alot of games.
AldemarHD fr man I hate modern gaming
Eh I'm a bit iffy. I don't mind microtransactions for things like skins, but for stuff like lootboxes/circumventing grinding... get that shit out of here.
Then developers like EA will just make games $59.99 and go "But it's not full price so we can charge loot boxes and microntranscations" ruining it for small indie developers that want to make great games and fund them after selling the game for $30 or for free
I agree, it is ok to have them in free to play games but it I pay for a game myeself I want everything to be unlocked by skill not by money
Well if the game itself is free and its not overly used im ok with it only companys like EA dont do iether of that
Just... wow. First spit in someones face, then try to convince them that they did it for you.
Fucking literally.
"I spit in your face so I could clean that mark off your face!"
Basically We are cheap hookers to them Now they are trying to convince us that we really love to be treated cheap
@@zacnyberg641 not cheap hookers for some, high end hookers who are low class but glammed up for the illusion, thanks.
I told a classmate that to cure a jellyfish sting i had to pee on her leg and she took me seriously.
NBA 2K20:
Game is delivered in a Lootbox. You have a hidden 5% chance of actually getting the game for 60$.
SquatsAndOats2plate
*0.000000000000000000001%
@@TiStardust sorry, my bad. I was being way too generous.
Don't give them any ideas lol
Instead of the game you get a bunch of old games that you already have.
10,000 VC everytime the game loads up
"We recommend you contact your local government representative to communicate your opinion."
Dear Belgian government,
I have just one thing to say to you regarding your ban on gambling microtransactions:
Good job.
DO IT YOU FUCKING BEAUTIFUL BELGIANS!
Based Belgians
Im so proud of my country right now
Im so proud of my country right now
Do it.
at this point EA is almost harassing players with lootboxes. Can't we put them in jail for this? Or atleast start a twitter shitstorm?
Sick 4chan on EA
Just abandon the platform and their games all together. I used to play NFS and SIMS, never looked back since they implemented microtransactions into NFS most wanted. Its been years, and im glad i didnt fall into their lootbox traps.
Don't buy the game ....
It's a huge corporation. They won't change unless they suffer massive revenue losses and loss of support from the gaming industry. Basically what I'm getting at is you need millions of people to boycott EA products and for second party retailers (i.e game stop) to put a block on selling their products for an indefinite period of time till they give in.
Stop buying/pre-ordering their games.
After 1 or 2 years - EA will either be bankrupt, or will learn their lesson. Same with 2K.
Hey 2K, you are NOT accommodating Belgium's laws, your are required to comply by them. As far as your recommendations to talk to my local representatives, you got it, I'll let my government now EXACTLY how I fell about loot boxes (hint: they're cancer).
Governments don't care about our opinions. They care about the lobbyists opinions because they've got loads of money. Hence why the UK hasn't changed the laws
Alfie Ryan
I can't really comment about how things work in the UK but I'll take you word for it. Here in Canada at least municipal representatives will meet with you one on one if you have concerns (within reason of course). I've even seen them intervene on behalf of their constituents. Granted that could be for public perception but that still means the public get results from time to time.
@@KH2409 I've always like the idea of Canada. I'm similar in that I try not to be too cynical about these things.
My local MP is Matt Hancock funnily enough, who was an economic advisor for the bank of England when the banks needed bailing out. Obviously he did such a good job our old chancellor of exchequer George Osbourn (very useless man) made him his assistant. Whilst the area I'm from is very working class, our constituency is paired with very middle class area called Newmarket. Lots of Tory's and world famous for its inhumane horse racing.
Anyway the point was he is now the culture secretary in the actual cabinet and he has done nothing to help with the problem of gambling in video games. He also failed to help protect young people from being groomed online.
Sorry to rant.
Edit: forgot to say my actual point. I've emailed him many times and he has an app to contact him on and he has never personally replied. His secretary is rude af
@Mesut Bektaş Matt Hancock is right wing. The British government is right wing. The Labour party is still mostly central, the left wing isn't represented in Britain's parliament. The issue of immigration is a problem but it's because we keep attacking places like Syria and then we're surprised they have refugees.
I'm not going to lie I do think there is a cultural issue and the Arabic culture isn't ready to integrate with western life. Both cultures need to evolve a little more first. You can't blame the left wing in Britain, because there hasn't been a left wing for about 50 years.
Wait a minute - first they're a "player choice", then they're an "unfortunate reality", then they're about choice again... Can these publishers make up their bloody minds?!
It's almost like they can't decide which lie to feed us...
Yup, it's almost like they don't notice the contradiction... That, or they just don't care and are being intellectually dishonest on purpose, which I sadly think is more likely, lol.
Oh, I'd say that's definitely the case. They've lied loads of times. They lie when they say that they somehow "need" these microtransactions, they lie about player choice, and they lie about it being a reality of modern gaming.
So many lies to choose from lol
Sadly it doesnt matter what they say cuz 90% of the gaming community have short term memory loss and the attention span of a ferret. Pre order and buy games hoping it will be better than the last. Get dissapointed, rinse and repeat. Same thing for those that just buy popular games to stream or upload videos.
"Player choice is an unfortunate reality. If it were up to us, we'd make every player spend at least $500."
"You can either walk 10,000 miles through this desert for a glass of water, or you can pay me. Every $5 and I'll drive you 10 miles with the AC on... It's just a choice! You don't HAVE to pay me if you just shut up and start walking!"
Jade Venator damn, you right
Jade Venator I’ll pay you a fist steal your car! See grand theft auto is teaching me the ways!
But you paid 60 dollars for the game though
It is a choice. Just choose not to buy their game done
That was a great way to break it down. Unfortunately this system makes too much money to stop. The only way that will happen is if we quit being suckers and stop buying this crap.
Yong: “Make an actual game with proper flow and progression”
2K & EA: *ERROR* ..Cannot Comply..
*COMMAND UNRECOGNISED*
*ERROR 505* *MUST RECEIVE PAYMENT FIRST*
Error! 2K, EA, Activision and Take Two have stopped responding. Please pay $99.99 for a better game.
God
You all make them sound like a ransomware
Don't buy there games. There are plenty of games out there that deserve a chance even if EA and 2K have a monopoly on sports games. Don't let them allow them to use status quo and your itch for these games to have you keep buying the game every year.
'We believe that our lootboxes already comply with Belgium laws but we're changing it in Belgium so that it complies with their laws.'
Sounds as though you know that what you're doing is wrong...
Contradicts the whole statement lmao "we don't think what we're doing is wrong, but we're changing it because we know its wrong" what a fucking joke
Oh they know, they just don't care.
Seems like 2k isn't the name of the publisher, it is what they want you to spend on each of there games.
Almost a perfect comment until "there"
Don't buy games that support these practices. I skipped on Battlefront 1 and 2 for said reasons and as it turns out I didn't miss out on much. I'll be skipping out on BF V as well. Vote with your wallets because words simply don't do it. It's sad but hey.
My brother bought copies for ps4/xbox yet i didn't buy them personally; i played them and prefer the 2004 originals.
I think the best way to support current gaming industry is by buying indie games or smaller company's games. Most of them just make games by passion, unlike those greedy big companies.
Don't forget to skip out on Black Ops 4, cause their monetization greed-fueled efforts are no different.
are you are still going to buy RDR2? Even when Take 2 owns Rockstar and 2K? They are huge anti-modder too.
I would try bf5 no loot boxes (yet) and from what I see you earn the cosmetics and the attachments are purchased with in-game currency earned from completing assignments in game not defending ea but so far battlefield 5 is free of that bullshit
*Sips coffee* It's a good sunday seeing a AAA company cry to the internet like this.
Damn, I need to reheat my coffee
Shit mine's cold gotta go warm this up...
Why can't we get the same effect here in the states, and make it illegal for companies to ruin games with illegal gambling! I refuse to buy games that shoe horns that crap into it.
THANK YOU!!!!! This comment/suggestion deserves a million thumbs up!
i mean, lootboxes are a pretty lame way to gamble anyway. atleast in poker i have to be somewhat knowledgeful on what to do making it atleast a little skill involving whereas lootboxes are just slot machines but instead of money you get skins and stuff.
>free market
"Basic Rules" and "Country Laws" are technically a different thing, yes?
Because America is funded by multi billion corporates. Same ones also fund big publishing companies in gaming. So there will never be any laws that will harm these corporate practices in America.
@Forever Outraged bitch what? communist? who the fuck educated you?
2K: Please, I swear they are only a choice....
gamers: Yes...and we choose to not have them in our games.
"contact your local government representative to communicate your opinion." how the hell does 2k think the government found out about their shenanigans?
I miss the days when expansion packs could be considered dlc, not this micro transaction bullshit.
MartyMo 03
No one really considers micro transactions dlc. They aren't downloadable content, they are ways of paywalling existing content.
@@garrettwade1294 what I meant is that micro transactions is what drives developers to create "dlc" and it often doesn't do anything else other than giving you something that already should have been a part of the game that you paid for.
Well said Marty.
DLC can some times be a good thing I might add...
For example...
Halo 3. It's first dlc was a map pack that contained a map called foundry. The devs first launched the game and one of the biggest things they did was add a map editor type mode into the game for multiplayer. The game launched and people LOVED the map editor. They had ideas for how to make it better. So what did bungie do at the time? They took the feedback from fans into consideration and made a map that was far more user friendly for map making. The results were very good. It was only 10 bucks too and today it's completely free. It was also free several years ago if you got odst. It's also free with mcc but that game is broken so let's not talk about that lolz.
Still though... I much more prefer it when the game ships complete. It's much more simple that way. I don't like having to worry about all these lil extra costs. Remember getting smash bros 64 or smash melee? Great times and you just paid once... I miss those days lol.
This micro transaction shit though... Wow it's lame. If you thought dlc was lame... Micro transactions are like 1000 times worse. Typically a games dlc is just 10-50 bucks extra tops. Sometimes more since they are getting worse just like most things in gaming. But it wont break your bank. Micro transactions can put costs onto the player that go into the thousands of dollars realm. WTF?!?!?!?
I miss the days when you buy a game and you get the entire game. Damn I miss the 90s.
Stuart Fonix I kinda get why it can’t be like that anymore, games are large and complex now with impressive graphics, lots of people work on them that need to get paid. Like, Sid Meier created most of the code for first Civilization game on his own, while he says for the new ones it would be impossible, there are hundreds of people working on them now.
The player's choice is to not have them in our games.
I need a source for your PP.
Buttstuff what a cute cat
Buttstuff
Your comment: 10/10
It is also the player's choice to no longer buy the game in the first place. How's that for a choice eh?
My choice is to set the building ablaze
Saving one game's lootboxes means saving them all. Reinforcing shady business practices only gives publishers more confidence to detriment gamers with future premium content. #FuckLootBoxes
Actually, we should talk to our local politicians and let them know how much we hate microtransactions and don’t want them in our games.
You want to talk to trump about how you hate that corporates make money?
I don't live in the US.
min24434 same I live in the way better country up north where we actually have freedom and don’t get harassed for our race
@@rickygill661 wish i was there.....
Thorfinn we don’t have SJWs here dumbass our country has like the quarter of the population you guys have and we already have more combined brain cells than the shitty US I didn’t know it was a bad thing that our government listens to the regular people for opinions on laws cuz you know we only fucking live here right your dumbass president just makes up his own stupid ass rules if our government does that we can actually say something back and they legally have to listen your whole country is trillions in debt biggest joke on the news most crime in North America it’s actually hilarious every time we hear about your country going to even more shit
Every time I hear a publisher or a dev saying something about people not having time and giving them an opportunity to buy shortcuts, I want to come up them and say: "How about you make a game that is actually fun to play so that people don't want to skip any of it?". This seems like a completely foreign concept to so many companies, unfortunately.
Or they can simply make in game currency more obtainable more often.
That's why i'm always playing games made by japanese, they really do know how to make a good story driven game that is fun to play
^
If people don't have time to play the game and progress their stats legitimately without paying hundreds of dollars a year for shortcuts and instant gratification then why are they even gaming at all?
Official Dank they did this in warframe's premium currency :V
I will celebrate the day Microtransactions are abolished from Paid Games.
I'm perfectly OK with it becoming an unofficial holiday in the gaming community. Maybe make it the day EA gave up on Battlefront 2?
JOSEPH WODARCZYK Launch day then? What with those weak sales.
Grinding, when done right, can be amazing. Grinding is not supposed to be a mechanic used specifically to make you buy the item if it takes too long.
I mean i won't mind grinding theough missions if the missions are dynamic and unique from each other. If they're making me do different versions of BS errand run missions all the fucking time to unlock shit, like destiny's strike missions, then its borinf AF.
Oops i mean to say public events, but then again the strike missions were pretty bland, uninspired and boring as well.
There’s a fine line between game content and grind, and part of it is why games can be fun. But ultimately I’m 100% against micro transactions in full priced games. I’ve paid good money to get a game and I refuse to pay more just to get what I should be getting for my initial purchase.
I’m definitely preparing for a day when companies figure out a way to inject live advertising into their games.
Skip the grind, 2K? Okay. How about bringing back cheat codes? No? But you said you were very concerned about giving players an edge....
This! Never got why more games didn't include cheats, even before Mictrotransactions were a thing.
Basically, microtransactions are paid cheat codes, especially in singleplayer games.
Wanna skip a grind? Wanna get some item early on? Wanna create another save slot? Why would you need to enter some boring cheat codes, if you can rather enter your credit card number?
They should just make it so your my player starts at like a 75-80... Nobody wants to play as a 60 overall and most of the top rookies come into the ekauge around that rating anyways so that could be a fix.
Also I don't think cheat codes would work in online multiplayer setting
This!
*_I will say it again micro transactions have no place in paid games_*
Anyone that disagrees obviously doesn't understand what a paid game is btw DLC is not a micro transaction because it's actually alot of content*
Edit : Holy shit how did this get so many likes???????
DLC are for free, only expansions cost money.
Cit - CD PROJECT RED
Nintendo is a good example of treating DLC as expansions, some of the addons for their games contained content that rivaled their base game.
Starcraft: Brood War is one of the best examples of how expansions should work virtually doubling the game experience for current owners of the main game and new customers at a fair price.
+Frank087 nah, nintendo can fuck off with the way they treat DLCs, "Oh, you want the game of the year edition for the game you bought on Wii U? Ok, we'll release it, with extra content on another console". Every! Single! Time! They can fuck off!
Only dlc i was pissed off about was botw. Fuck you nintendo
After all this and they BEG us to keep loot boxes????!!! WTFF?!?!!!
Crisera YT their soo fucking desperate!!
Okey, I will contact my local government in the Netherlands to ban this gambling practices. You asked I will deliver.
Good on ya, stick it to those money grubbing douchebags!
I'd rather talk to my local govt., to have them follow Belgium's example. Get bent, 2K.
Well done, Belgium. Setting the right example.
Agree
Yea in The Netherlands too, but this is only with things like MyTeam (basically lootboxes) and not for all the bullshit microtransaction, which you are almost forced to buy if you want to play without months of grinding...
Step forward though
Get bent? We talking Persona now? But yeah this is just pitiful, Belgium knows what’s up.
My man said get bent lmao damn right fuck 2k and the greed
My brother is one of those pro nba 2k loot box supporters. I looked down on him with disgust and disappointment.
Give him a retro system from ps2 and below, play with him for afew hours and watch as he starts enjoying games that DOES NOT have microtransactions
If he doesnt want to change, then god have mercy
Eternia that wont work. Hes from super Nintendo- ps2 kid era as well as me. He is just one those kind of players who plays every cod, madden, and nba 2k. He says micros can save people time." So your paying even more money to skip the grind on a game you already paid for?" "Sorta , my character sucks right now so im getting some vc to boost my stats a bit so i can actually cross fools and level him up" " so , pay to win?" " no , everybody can do it so its fair. I just wish the grind didnt take so long."
LOUD THUNDEROUS FACEPALM
@@TheUltrasora OOF well hope you can get through to your brother. Mine were easily convinced after seeing the price tag alone and even getting some advice from friends to not play 2K18. Perks of being in a poor country.
@@TheUltrasora
Oof
Jokes on him, back then games with cheat codes can also save you time, gta san andreas for example
Besides, you know what else can save you time? Not playing the bloody game
Seriously, if you dont want to play the game the way it's made because it's wasting time,
1. The game is fundamentally flawed design-wise
2. You simply are not interested in it
Then dont play the game
TheUltrasora u should ask ur parents to disown him so he aint ur brother anymore so u wont feel disappointment
Sometimes I shed a tear, because I remember sinking hours into 2k13 with my friends. It was a really fun game, micro transactions existed but were unneeded.
The recent entries are unbearable and it's like it's telling you "this would all be easier if you just buy VC"
Basically, it's a mobile game. Thats what most sports games have become nowadays. They're just mobile games, except with a 60$ price tag along with nickel and diming you to death.
2K12 had none. Zero.
Last great 2K game.
Yeah... I shed a tear when I remember rooting for 2K against the then-dominating EA NBA Live, and hanging onto every word the 2k dev team talked about how their game was different and better. Now that they are essentially the same companies.
@Deep Soul he is since he has a profile pic of saber
@Deep Soul yea same
My, oh my. How quickly bravado goes out the window when you turn your own consumers against you.
Matics 89
“Don’t like it? Don’t buy it!”
“OK.”
the end of ea should send a pretty strong message to others that might want to try shady things! nobody thought anyone could do this much damage to ea...
Is tHiS a TFs refEreNce?!
@@arena_sniper7869 It wasn't really meant to be, but I love DBZA so you can totally take it that way.
I'm not even living in Belgium but i would contact their government anyways... To congratulate them on making a good decision and encourage them to continue doing great work by slowly getting rid of the cancer that has been ruining games for years now. Hopefully more European countries will consider joining Belgium soon.
I love reading that statement. "While we disagree with this position..." - who are you? Who do "you" "think" you are to disagree with THEIR interpretation of THEIR OWN LAWS?! Non-Belgian Legal specialists, judges, lawyers, politicians - can have their opinions with *some* value to it. Belgian judges, lawyers and politicians can have strong opinions on the matter. Belgian Citizens can have VERY strong opinions on it. But "you"? Corporation making "video game-blings"? You can **** right off. "We disagree" rotfl.
And how they mention they will continue trying to explain to BGC their view on the matter. Like hell, this is not US, you can't just pay politicians to do your bidding. It's called a bribe, and it's a crime.
- Murder is illegal -
EA/2k: "Well, I disagree as long as I can profit from it!"
@@HeyItzMeDawg The AAA pubs are subtly implying that they know the country's laws better than the very government that enforces them. Activision did the very same thing when Overwatch and whatever else was affected. "We disagree with their interpretation of Belgian law" is exactly what Activision said.
I like your comment. Agree with it
@@carcerharlson9767 and its 100% okay to think that but they're wrong and should be rightly laughed out of the room.
+Carcer Harlson "The AAA pubs are subtly implying that they know the country's laws better than the very government that enforces them."
Do you have any idea how the legal system works?
Half of what you fucking do in court is argue in favor of your own interpretation of the law in front of a judge. Not only is everyone _allowed_ to have opinions about what is legal and what isn't, it's actually _necessary_ for a just legal system that they be allowed to _share_ those opinions.
"The government" doesn't enforce laws because the government isn't one unified body. A _specific_ branch of the government enforces laws. Another branch of the government adjudicates the laws. Another branch of the government creates laws. This is important because, as it turns out, you're allowed to tell the part of the government that adjudicates the law how you think it should be adjudicated. Now, it doesn't have to listen to or agree with you, but you're definitely allowed to share your opinions.
There is nothing wrong with telling the government that it's misinterpreting its own laws. In fact, its your moral obligation to do so: everyone should do that as _much_ as possible _whenever_ they think it's happening. That's the only way to hold the government accountable when it abuses its power.
Jesus christ you people are retarded. Take your argument and fucking apply it to some other situation. Like, the government putting you in prison under charges of sedition for criticizing a politician. What, you're not allowed to say anything because you're "telling the government how to enforce its laws???" Think about how fucking stupid that sounds. _Obviously,_ you're allowed to share your fucking opinions about how the government is enforcing its laws.
Use your fucking head, dumbass.
If I've learnt anything from psychology is that these people in positions of power are either psychopaths or sociopaths, I say this because they don't believe anything they're doing is wrong and despite all the pushback and all the regulations they're still unable to sympathise or empathise with their customers and all they want is money, and at this point I start asking at point have you accrued enough money, because the bonuses a lot these people get is more money than they can spend in a lifetime, but I digress from the point.
When you look at it from a business point they're still swindling customers regardless of whether they think its a part of gaming culture or not, you pay an average of $60 dollars for what? half of a game that's most probably buggy or uses the same code or engine may be even reskinned, pay another $20-$30 for a season pass or $20 per a DLC ooooor you pay small increments of $2-$100 for randomly generated lootboxes which are integrated into gameplay just to get the full experience.
A lot of these companies have generated enough revenue to deliver quality games at an efficent rate and make a profit from the solid customer base they have... so I'm not understanding. Just do your job as game company, produce games make customers happy, make money for said service.
I hope CDPR wouldn't turn like them.
Keep fighting the good fight! Loot boxes need to change. Gambling should not be aimed at kids. You want that in your games it shouldn't be purchaseable by minors. Microtransactions are bull shit. Companies want additional revenue? Make high quality dlc.
Matthew Lavides you are one step ahead, they first neet to make a high quality game. greetings.
I agree. I think all games with loot boxes that can be purchased with real money (whether directly or with in-game currency that can be purchased with real money) should have an "Adults Only" rating.
Matthew Lavides also make games that don’t have microtransactions, that focus on stories, relatable character development or improved gameplay and features that wasn’t seen in previous versions of that game etc... That way they make more money during the initial sales and once word gets around in reviews or word of mouth, more people will buy said game and drive up revenue.
Considering the way modern companies are is high quality even remotely possible?
One point: Microtransactions are okay as long as you know what you are getting and it does not offer unfair advantage.
I sure do love basketball, I love it when they get a touchdown
Toxic Pyro12
Dude, getting a Strike in that game is hype.
Lol
Personally, I'm more into basketball's penalty kicks. They keep me at the edge of my seat.
Better when you get a goooooooooooooal.
Finish lines
Smart one
Their audacity is out of stellar. Are they out of their f**cking mind ?
Not buying any EA, Activision and 2K games now 🤷🏻♂️ gamers need to stay strong together.
Activision is already getting fixed on by the gaming companies working under it. Atleast activision is changing but EA and 2k can obviously suck dick
I would love to agree with that fully 100% but it's hard...
The spyro the dragon remaster might not be half bad actually... But god damnit it's gay that crapdivisions name is on it. I don't like the idea of supporting such a horrible company but at the same time I want to support good games because they are fun to play.
Same feelings towards that sekiro shadows die twice game or whatever it's called. So I'm very conflicted. Either way... I'm sure I wont get these games at full price and at launch if I even get them at all lol.
I think they will be worth getting at about 15-30 bucks lol.
Last EA game ever bought is Battlefront 1. They spat so much in the face of the fans of the original game....
It doesn't matter that many people don't spend $60 when one $1000 whale can cover for more than fifteen of those.
I want to agree about activision getting fix but they still fucked up with cod ww2 lootboxes by making people watch others open lootboxes for « reward » and the new thing about BO4 for the dlc you should go watch info about it they are screwing up again.
Don't support these companies if you don't approve of their practices. Vote with your wallet boys.
Dare Run Damn straight.
Unfortunately these days there alot of stupid people with money.
It's hard to find a popular game out there that doesn't have this microtransaction crap. Hell it's worse on mobile games. Video games are not the same anymore..
Is there a game company that hasn't done loot boxes or micro transactions in any of their games? I believe it is a rare find these days.
This is the disadvantage of Monopoly.
No matter how you hate, they might buy it because they are the only developer of basketball simulation.
Lobbying = 'legal' corruption.
How is this still a thing???
$$$
@Abdullah Reagan Yes, there are Unions, parents, schools, and other small organizations lobby and yes, it's a very good thing. The problem is, there are multimillionaires and billion dollar companies that are abusing the system essentially brining governor's with large checks for kick backs on taxes and not for the best interest of the average Joe but only for their profits and company
@Abdullah Reagan where are you coming from with this
Like dude the people shouldn't suffer because someone has enough money to bribe a politician
+Abdullah Reagan Spoken like a true lobbyist. I guess you are the type of person who avoids paying traffic tickets by going golfing with the police chief.
I swear nowadays there are barely any pure video game companies/developers
I would have said Nintendo was pretty pure, but shutting down emulation websites destroyed that.
iiNebula fr dude it’s actually sad. Like what is gaming gonna be like in the future
CD PROJECT RED
@@repressedgamingmemories8920 you mean the websites that illegally distribute their IP's and so decreasing the sales of their current games and consoles?
@@dankeykang8243 "decrease the sales of there current games" like really how?
Microtransactions in video game should actually be illegal.
OG509 Yes even if it is free to play that is a terrible excuse. Oh we are making our game free to everyone except you are not when there are micro transactions in it.
Coraldiamond 192
I think they are fine in f2p. They need money somehow. It just needs to be straight Foward cosmetics.
I can excuse micro-transactions or DLC's in FTP games and games that continue to develop and ship updates years after the game itself is released. Development costs money, and money has to come in somehow. If your game is Free to Play or you're continuing to pay a large development team to support the game well after the profits of the initial purchases have dried up, you need to have a continuous income somewhere. I'd much prefer companies putting out DLC's alongside free updates than companies abandoning a game on release with all it's problems and putting out a new full-priced game next year to ensure profits.
What really annoys me is companies putting in micro-transactions or clearly not-worth-it DLC's to a full-priced game that they're paying the bare minimum to support, if even that (Looking at you, 2K), or games that are technically Free to Play but are borderline impossible and unfun without reaching for your wallet.
You want to outlaw DLCs next? If you get what you paid for then there should be no crime. The problem with Loot Boxes is that you don't always get what you paid for.
Maybe DLCs should be outlawed. I remember a time where dlc wasn't a thing and the game came complete with everything lol. God of war 4 just did it. Sigh... That's a nice feeling isn't it? To buy a game and not have to worry about spending more money on it whilst hoping it will be worth it or not...
Micro transaction loot box pay to win endless trash that makes unlocking the full game and doing everything in the game potentially costing over 1000 dollars is pretty gay compared just a few 10 dollar dlc packs but still... I'm just saying... I liked it better when the game just comes out and BAM... That's it.
Seeing just how desperate they really are, makes my day! The days of microtransactions are numbered!
Unfortunately, the days of microtransactions are far from numbered. The days of gambling in games may be numbered, but i dont see any movement against microtransactions itself. As long as you clearly get what it says, its not gambling (look for example at sims 4).
There are so called "Whales" who will spend a shitton of money on such microtransactions. One whale can often easily make up the loss of 10 other customers. And this is a very generous speculation.
@@Birdmaster92 With the rate of gamers waking up, trust and believe the days of microtransactions are pretty numbered... These "whales" don't make up the majority of gamers, tho...
@@Birdmaster92 yea but at the very least if one more nail on the coffin. Let idiots who want to buy micro do it. Lootboxes are worst its random premium.
@@thedarkdojo5115 yes. These "Whales" lack gamer insticnt, without micro they suck dickass at games. Its highly likely a lot are former quitters.
The USA needs to do the same thing as Belgium. This I SUPPORT!!!
Jim Taylor Australia only has 8 days till they declare it gambling or not if I remember correctly.
No devs need the money...it off sets cost and licenses..
DELTABOY04 no they don’t need it. The industry has grown along with those costs. Also it’s their choice to spend that much on development. And on top of that they can do different methods like the microtransactions Fortnite uses.
Also "costs and licenses" are cheaper than developing all of your own stuff from scratch, as game developers had to in the olden days.
They wont. In the u.s., gambling has to have a payout. By this logic, pokemon cards, yu gi oh cards and baseball cards would be illegal because they are based on chance and you dont know the outcome of what you are purchasing.
"They are a choice"
okay I choose *NO*
EA: "NONONONO! WAIT! WE'RE LISTENING TO FEEDBACK!!!"
EA/2K
No no that not how it should work
it's so sad for us basketball fans because we are still going to buy this shitty game, we have no fucking choice
BENIジャノン or maybe don't? play other games? play basketball in real life? suggestions man.
A choise, eh? Well I choose not to play loot box included games, ever!
Unfortunately, 2k and EA will continue to push stuff like this out as long as stupid frat boys keep buying the new copy of Madden or 2k every year
Jackson Coyne Not If EA goes into bankruptcy, which is the route they seem to be going.
@@xfinafire unlikely, despite the negative pr they had record profits last year from ultimate team modes and fifa card packs
Jackson Coyne lmao why is your target “frat boys”??? I’m sorry but the people who buy micro transactions are little kids with their parents wallets.
Jackson Coyne are you could just grind it out on madden and My team like I do
I buy Madden, 2K, and FIFA yearly. I'm not a frat boy. I'm a tool. Get it right.
2KGames:Please,help us support loot boxes.
Me:hahaha.... Oh wait,you're serious let me laugh even harder HAHAHA!!!
Insert "Joe jamison spider man" meme here "You serious?!"
Damn chill edgelord
dogjoy Just admit that you're just mad that you spent thousands of dollars on lootboxes
Dogjoy Pfft what a dog
You know that piracy's illegal and ruins the industry, right? And you know that, without people who PAY for games, they won't make more games that you can pirate, right?
You know whats impressive? All of these big companies are using the same manipulative words to convince people they are in the right.
"Interpretation of Belgian law" stands out in particular. Its like they all got together to write a template.
TheodoricFriede
They are using the same language because none of them is creative enough to think of a different wording than EA did.
They aren't just creatively bankrupt in regards to their games but creatively bankrupt in general.
Luminescence or maybe using the same law firms
Playing WWE HCTP to create your perfect wrestler with 10/10 in all stats was by no means quick. It was a grind, going through career mode multiple times to gain experience points. But it was fun and the joys of playing with your reward after earning it was fantastic. If playing the game was not fun and instead I could have just paid to unlock perfect stats, then what's the point of playing the game in the first place? 2k are basically saying they have created a boring game so players need microtransactions to bypass the game part of the game.
QullVideo well said. You are 100% correct IMO. They're just lazy a*holes.
True, I loved that game.
We need more countries in the anti microtransaction train.
Specially if a major country were to implement it (maybe entire EU, Japan or US), it would force developers to ship the game gambling free at the start.
Ali Hasan Abdullah Australia I believe will decide whether loot boxes are gambling by the 17th of this month.
Basically a f2p mobile game but you have to pay full price on top, perfect
Totally agree with you, you're already paying $60 and they want more on top of that lol fuck that, they should just lower the price of games if they want us buying lootboxes
People are stupid to support microtransactions. Thats why they still exist. Keep it up. Dont buy overpriced dlcs. Supporting some devs that dont ask much is okey
What's Microtransarciton? A new transformer?
For the DLC part, it depends on how much content(The actual game has to be a full game without the DLC) the DLC has. If it has almost as much content as the original game, it's justified to be almost, if not the same price as the original game.
Game developers and publishers still trying to insist that loot boxes are a _choice_ and not _gambling_ is just pathetic.
In that regard ... how stupid can 2K be to ask consumers to contact their local governments to let 2K enable loot boxes?
I guess 2K is just another company that wants to be blacklisted by gamers?
If any game company tries to push the _choice_ BS with loot boxes, then consumers should react by not buying their games. Simple. If consumers stop buying their games, it's only then when that company will admit that they were BS'ing and will try to actually make a game and not a virtual gambling experience, but by then the damage will have been done over and over to the point where they won't be making money.
#Fuck2K #FuckEA #FuckLootBoxes
xxnike629xx Except from its not choice when they make them really lucrative to younger audiences in hope they purchase it. Developers always try to find a way to make more money from you like with sims freeplay. That game is full of micro transactions.
its a choice
@Dylann Roof
Right?
@DELTABOY04
Yes. But they’ve designed the game to make this _choice_ feel less and less like a _choice_ and more like an _encouraged_ purchased.
Tell ya what, the day I "Blacklist" 2k is the day I stop playing games. They make solid games, year after year
This is why regulation is a NECESSITY.
Corporations don't do the right thing on their own, and will ALWAYS do whatever they can get away with to increase profits. The more they are allowed to get away with, the more they try to get away with.
When DLC first started becoming a "thing", many people excused it by saying it was just a choice to get some extra content like skins and visual upgrades, but it eventually led to making DLC a mandatory purchase now known as "pay to win", in order to remain competitive in a purposely unbalanced game.
Now we have endless microtransactions that we are constantly told are unavoidable, because "that's just the way it is nowadays....".
Boycotting still works, and until people exercise self control, things will never change.
Regulation is always necessary in capitalistic society to create balance. Regulations is what prevents you from getting sick as food establishments, making sure cars are built a certain standard for safety, child labor laws, labor laws, etc. All are necessary regulations. Video games are the only industry in the world not regulated. At least now, it slowly is becoming it in places like Belgium.
Regulations aren’t always good. Labor laws effect businesses in different ways. Big business can afford to work with regulations whereas some small businesses can’t.
I approve of MTX's. What I don't approve of is paying for a chance to get something you want.
"Good day shopkeep, I should like to purchase some milk please, my good man",
[Slaps a fiver down on the counter]
"Good luck sir",
"Pardon?",
"Let me give this wheel a spin"
[Wooooosh]
"...........",
"Ahh here you are sir, a packet of jammy dodgers, thanks for playing!"
"U fokin what?!!!!!!!!!! I'm never shopping here again you twat!"
Matthew Pollitt But then there is the sims 4 where the developers are taking out core parts of gameplay and are even selling parts of the game for far more then its worth. Also the cost alone to buy the full game with all the dlc is going to be above a couple of hundreds. Again that depends where you live it might be more but yeah. I think we should say no to any dlc over picking and choosing. Otherwise these companies can find a way to rip us off.
No. Parents don't know about the gambling because things like the ESRB aren't informing them when they claim to be. Should we remove the age of consent and put it solely on the parents? Gambling needs regulation.
I bet 10 Bucks the triple A companies can go lower than this
so how should the bed go . are you in XD
Lootboxes are gambling.
It's true. You put up money for a chance at getting something.
It's worse than gambling honestly... At least real gambling at a casino can get you MORE money. It's not like I can buy a micro transaction that gives me back my money and then some more money on top of that if I'm lucky lol.
Microtransactions are basically you paying for digital nothingness... It's not like I can take my micro transaction "earned" halo 5 helmet and sell it in real life for real money lol. Not really...
But you don’t need to use lootboxes
You also dont need to gamble but its regulated regardless....wonder why?
@@fruitman2426 Yeah it shouldn't even be an option in the first place.
Agree can't stand lootboxes
The worst thing about FIFA, Madden ETC.
Is that with say an FPS game MTX supposedly fund the DLC.
With FIFA etc, they literally fund nothing, EA and 2K get money for nothing on top of the full game price.
It’s disgusting!
I feel you man. In fact, I unfortunately live with someone who supports EA only because he wants to play soccer video games. I have gotten into arguments with him trying to explain why FIFA games are trash and his arguments are "Well it offers a choice to players" and "Shouldn't they be allowed to make as much money as possible?" I get sick just hearing that.
Agent 005 but at least it appears you get something for your season pass or MTX. You get no new content with something like fifa
Really makes you miss horse armor DLC...
Thank you for being you
Don't say that, that's what they want.
Let this not distract you from the fact Mr.krabs sold spongebob for 62 cents
ThatDriver *gasps* "HOW COULD HE"
He also works him every day of the week without overtime pay
Kha kha kha.i love money.
I'm Bugs Bunny So Blow Me he only get 1 day off witch is Sunday
In the old days a game publisher's financial success was rates on how well their games sold, now it's just how many people they can scam with microtransactions.
"We recommend you contact your local government representative to communicate your opinion."
Yo Belgium,
Keep up the good work
Sports gamers are the downfall of fair game mechanics... Paying for a hair cut with real money is laughable... Any good game should have customization included-.-
You get that "money" or haircut if you play the game. It's called grinding. People take the easy way out & cry about it. This game is supposed to be played all year long. That's why the grind is slow but y'all don't understand.
@@Pupper522 literally every friend I have has bought VC to upgrade their myplayer either you become a no life or rock a 77 overall myplayer half way into the game life do you like mt? Than its pretty fair that you'll buy a 10 pack one time even my gm has paychecks they really didn't 2k store? That's VC there too tell me why would anyone want this?
@@Pupper522 What you don't understand is it is because of the existence of lootboxes do these games get grindy. They create the disease (grind) in order to sell you the cure (lootbox). That's why mobile games are all just grindfests.
Before lootboxes, we were always given free character customizations or all we needed to do was to progress in the game to get new customizations. We didn't need to do the same thing over and over and over and over again till kingdom come to get that hairdo.
Look at Shadow of War compared to Shadow of Mordor. The one with the lootbox end up being the unnecessarily grindy one.
Also, these sports games only last for a year. All your investments will be lost when the next iteration comes out. If this is supposed to be for the long run, then it should've been subscription based like MMOs or Free-to-Plays so that it'll last more than one year.
Eric Rosario Don't you find it odd that you're grinding for something that is in literally every other game several hundred times over (depending on the choice of character hairstyles) for free?
Would it not be more reasonable to be grinding for, say an entirely new character or a new stadium to play in?
Eric Rosario nigga why the fuck I got to grind for a hair cut 😂😂😂.
Video games are about the journey, not the destination. Who buys a game just to pay to skip to the end? This is cancer to the video game community, if theres microtransactions the games upfront cost should be free
very good point. instead of fucking paying, give the players some cheat codes that made old games memorable.
Let's talk 2k numbers here.
You can earn up to 1200VC per NBA game, 250-300VC per Park game, 900-1100VC per Pro-am
Stats boosts are 500VC per. Layup, Dunk, Handles, Passing, Rebounding, Defense and I think I'm missing few of them.
2k gives people options to boost their players for about 5000-6000VC per game.
This isn't "We're trying to give options to people who don't want to grind their player from 60 Ovr". This is a "payme $1-2 per game to be the best player on the court". Unfortunate reality of modern gaming my ass.
They're getting desperate
yuppppp
Only a matter of time before lootboxes get regulated , The question is how will they make up those profits.... spend money to make their games better LOL ( others ways too just gave on on top of my head)
Utter greed in a company
You know they have enough money to pay employees better then the cars and house they own.
Adolph Gutierrez well yeah,but still it taking advantage on the consumer
@@GeneralEcstasy Yeah, for now and at the expense of the consumer.
*Predatory practices*
And people are still going to buy RDR2 even when Take 2 owns Rockstar and 2K. GT5 Still a huge money maker for them.
Finally
Go Down with Microtransactions!!!
No More, Pay to Win
People all put down 2K for their decisions with their sports games. But nobody is talking about how Rockstar did the same thing with GTAV Online. & lest we all forget, 2K & Rockstar are basically the same company. They're both under the Take Two umbrella. All these so-called anti-consumer practices, yet everybody is still hyped for Red Dead Redemption 2. So excuse me if I don't believe my fellow gamers anymore about not wanting loot boxes and overpriced DLC, when everybody besides me is STILL supporting companies like Rockstar/2K/Take Two. Everybody says don't support them by not buying their game. But if you're buying RDR2, you're still supporting them because it's the same company.
BK-201 The Spliffsta at least gta isnt a yearly title it's way worse with 2k because you have to start over from scratch again each year
At least GTA Online offers MANY ways to earn money fast without buying it. Yes, I agree the economy severly unfriendly to new players and certain activities need an increase in money but the micros are needed for GTA Online considering everything is free
Problem is the same adults keep buying the game then paying for fake coins every year. But I'm not shocked they're simply casuals. People who played star wars were actual gamers and thats why ea failed against them.
literally this
People talk about Rockstars shady practices all the time. So... You're dumb.
There was a time games didnt have this BS, so, how did devs make a living then?
Why cant games go without them now?
I'm glad that, thanks to EA lootboxes are beginning to disapear.
they definitely make money the publishers just want more of it.
Remember when the time when you buy can the cosmetic outright without chance. I miss that time
+Exile Matrix Remember the time when you actually just earned the cosmetic through gameplay and didn't have to pay extra money on-top of already buying the game? I miss that time more.
I’m sure it’s because games are getting more costly.
But don’t get me wrong, if i see a AAA company make billions of dollars off of these lootboxes and then have the nerve to say that, then make them commit no living.
2k can easily develop NBA 2ks to the end of time with minimal microtransactions however their literally so greedy that this makes no sense to them eventually after all the bad press the NBA might change take back the rights
*_Pay $1 to save your progress...._*
*_...where's everybody going?_*
Disgusting practice and we as gamers are at fault. This behavior from publishers needs to stop, we are the enablers, talk with your wallet people.
NBA *2PAY* 19.
you win the comments section
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As a small TH-camr who also covered this story, I have to say you nailed this. Not surprising as you usually get it right.
2K are taking the piss if they think most gamers are going to campaign for them. The sad thing is that those who will are the same guys who get addicted to the microtransactions. Cynical doesn’t even begin to cover it.
He didn't nail it at all. He said "Every facet" of NBA 2k is made to get gamers to buy VC Points, nope! Wrong! Franchise mode, the best part of the game that nobody talks about, has no microtransactions at all
@@rickgrimes3190 The reason why no one talks about it is because that mode is unrelated, and people are talking about the rest of the game. Which is MOST of the game.
USA needs to ban loot boxes in video games it’s so cancer
We truly live in a society
Mars
Unfortunately.
Agh we should move to Mars with Elon musk
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@@NathanKirby2001 count me in
Gamers rise up!
How generous of you to give people the option to pay to skip the grind you specifically implemented in your game. Thank you so much!
If they whant to give palyers a choise to skip grinding, why hey dont just make some cheat code to do that, like many many game did before internet reached videogames?
Isn't giving us a free skip pass still a choise for plaeyrs?
Or they could have a reasonably paced progression speed with no microtransactions like NBA live. It's not just that though 2K18 starts you out with a really shitty slow player that can barely make a shot. The game is designed to be unenjoyable until you pay £40 or play 200 matches which got you to an 80 overall and even then you can miss easy wide open layups and th AI hits a ridiculous ammount of 3 point shots, The league average is around 36% in 2K it's more like 60% for the AI.
Obviously not filling games with tedious grind is always the ebst way, but i was arguing about them telling that giving players a paid opzion to skip grind is giving players a choise.
They're trying to act like they have no control over the game being a grind, and that an opportunity to charge money just _happened to present itself._
Like, *bull fucking shit.* They *wrote* the fucking game. They *chose* to make it a grind, and they *chose* how much of a grind.
That grammar tho
TheMetalOverlord uh.. because then I don’t make any money, duh.
It's so sad to me that the industry has turned into this. It used to be that pacing and progression was a part of good game design that belonged in the only game we purchased not something for us to pay more for.
The downloadable generation has ruined things. Games are increasingly released in an unfinished and buggy state so that they can make money sooner and hopefully be fixed later. When I was a kid, I bought a new cartridge at the store and knew that the game should work great out of the box because there was no internet connection in my Nintendo 64 for devs to hamfist fixes into a broken game that I already paid for. Patches are great. Let's be clear on that. What they are not, is an excuse to sell an inferior product. The industry wants to raise the prices on their products while also lowering the quality. This can't continue. Can anyone smell a crash coming?
My message to the powers that be of the gaming industry as a whole: greed will serve you now but not in the future. Do not make us lose faith in this industry as a whole again and relive what happened in 1983. It took a miracle from Nintendo to revive the industry and lightning rarely strikes twice. Sure you can swindle us all you want today and laugh all the way to the bank. But what happens tomorrow when we have all wised up to it and don't play into your bullshit anymore? Every gamer out there including myself, wants to play great games until we're 90 years old beyond. And I'm sure that video game companies would like to continue to have good sales numbers until I'm 90 and beyond. Greed is not feasible for long term success.
You're not the only one. My prediction though is that the crash happens not because of preorder culture but because of this new "live service" bullshit. When everyone tries to tie players to minimal amount of games with minimal amount of effort, at some point players and the time and cash they can spend simply hits their limit. And when that happens, some major titles are bound to fail, horribly. And when every AAA company have put all their eggs in that basket without plan B like they always do, it's not something they can fix in next few years. When that happens, investors abandon the ship and it may be just easier to quit altogether and save what's left.
But what our predictions have in common is the lack of effort in AAA game industry. It's gonna bite them in the ass one way or another, especially when companies like Nintendo always prove them wrong by delivering top quality games without all that nickle and diming that's supposed to be required
@@retrohanska4441 I wasn't even referring to pre orders but that brings another concern. Pre-ordering doesn't even make sense in the post-digital era. Once upon a time games were sold on a physical medium and there were finite limits on how many discs could be pressed or cartridges flashed between the date that a game went gold and the date the games went on sale. Pre-ordering ensured that you were reserved your copy on day one. Now putting a digital version on a server somewhere, unlimited amounts of copies can get almost anywhere in the world. There is no reason to pre-order a game when supply is not an issue.
All pre-ordering does is give publishers more excuses to half-ass a game before it's finished because they've already made their money.
Thats how video games are made these day's. Thing is these half incomplete games they put out there are called game preview. Thing is people don't realize makeing a video game you haft to test it play it day in day out to find n fix bugs video game companys pay video game testers to play there games and report any issues. Now Game preview games are games still in development that we pay 30-40$ to own. And play it long story short were paying the game developlers to play and test there game so they don't haft to hire and pay people to test there game, on top of that then when the full release comes out people buy the game full price and on top of that in games purchases n loot boxs and cosmetic items. Talk about squeezing every nickle n dime they can get out of a half ass made game,
@@jesseross8690 Early Access is also a bullshit idea. Early access games can get ruined in that stage because developers do not stress enough that the game in that state is unfinished and lacking polish. So many people are expecting perfection going into an early access title that they lose faith in the game. It needs to be called public beta-testing and players need to be vetted and selected based on their understanding that the game is unfinished. Also, a beta-test shouldn't be the only type of quality control. Playtesters are specifically trained in what they do and have entire skillsets devoted to trying to break a game and find bugs. The average beta tester is not going to spend an entire day in one section of a level trying to clip through walls and check collision detection and texture quality on everything. The average player just doesn't know what to look for trying to find bugs.
Well said. Why i say that. I bought early access ark survival evolved. Paid 29.99$ played it for 378 days of game hours played ive. Been on
there community forms ive seen tuns n tuns of post on issues 1 person is haveing and others say there experiencing it to and wildcard devs read these forms and fix the issues you see what i mean by we paying them to test there shit.Then when the full game was released all preview players server was turned to legac meaning no support from the devs basically forcing everyone on legacy to Quite n play on the new official servers because its unfair for the people who are just now buying this game. And so they can delete thoes severs to make new official servers. N did you know ark survival evolved was the 1st early access game to release a dlc u had to pay for.
“A star wars themed casino, battlefront 2”
Made me laugh out louf, good one
Sadly this is the state of gaming; the new generation of online-focused casual gamers have helped bring such practices in and as long as they make money, microtransations are here to stay with these companies :/
The important thing now is that devs at least don't make them compulsory.
No, we must fight back. Tell anyone you know who buys sports games how they're being swindled. Microtransactions are *not* here to stay so long as you keep fighting them.
@@djferg94 yes but most people don't care as the games are worth it in the end of the day.I'm not going to tell someone not buy something that they want.
I very much doubt anyone *wants* to be ripped off.
I'd hardly blame this on any generation of gamers. It's simple, these companies got greedy so they started to sneak this stuff in, then when they saw there was little to no backlash, they started amping it up, little by little. ALL gamers are to blame for this for letting this shit happen. Casual, hardcore, they all buy this stuff.
What’s worse is that killing lootboxes won’t fix this, companies will just find the next scumbag monetisation practices.
Thank you Yong, the more we can make people aware of this Greed the more we can fight back as Gamers against it. Thank you. Your one of the good ones.
Did you know that the ad I got from your video at the end is NBA 2K19? How ironic. LOL
So as a Belgian I can basically be a bully towards a major company, by not asking my politicians to overlook this issue.
Man this power feels good, unlucky for the companies that want to make profit around lootboxes the elections are coming.
The politicians want to win the younger people over by fighting this, they realise it's a quick way to get easy votes and it's actually in the gambling law so that means it's not to much extra work.
I mean I could ask my politicians to ignore it but what do I get out of it?
I get more by letting them the lootbox debacle.
What happens after that? Does Belgium ban these games or something?
Well while I can't exactly say what they are going to do precisely it's high possible they could petition a ban on those games.
We had televised gambling games on a couple of channels, where you had to call the channel to participate the contest. (You had to be lucky, to be one of the chosen ones to enter the contest and then had to answer the questions correctly, every minute you called you paid money)
They banned those because it was impossible to check the age and it was a form of gambling that didn't follow the casino laws.
So in theory they could do the same with games that have loot boxes that are monetized and chance based, though I think it's more likely they will ask for a fine.
If I find an opportunity to ask him or anyone of his party I will, so I shall look into it.
Though the neighboring countries France and Netherlands are looking into this situation and eventually plan to revision their gambling law to include loot boxes.
It's something Yong addressed a while ago.
*Edit* I contacted the political party regarding 2k's request and I requested them to keep up the fight, hoping they can push it to the European Union.
Idk if anyone will still see this, but I received word from the political party and in short they told me the following:
Tthey will keep up the fight as 3 of the 4 games in question have actually removed the system, the last one's report has been passed on the court of Brussel and that other countries are even asking Belgium for advice.
Ya know, I almost wanna give SW: Battlefront 2 GOTY just for unintentionally changing the gaming landscape for the better, lol.
I just mean how loot boxes have become so stigmatized that a lot of companies are getting afraid to touch them now cause of the overwhelming negativity surrounding them.
Agent 005 if they want to get votes on the next election why not.
@Agent 005 Hmmm...
We should say that actually, lootboxes cause school shootings. Maybe those gun nuts and Faux News could kill off lootboxes.
It will only reach America if the whole EU bans lootboxes or at least, majority of their major countries. The companies alone cant survive on only America revenue since EU for gaming is basically as big as all of America.
Look at how EA is mismanaged for a while : They torpedoed their best RPG franchise (ME:Andromeda fiasco). The Battlefront microtransactions scandal. Total disregard and disrespect of their target audience (Battlefield V).
Why ? -They feel they can because they make a good part of their money on easy scam schemes, it started on their sports games with card systems (Ultimate team challenge, my team...), I mean, why try to reinvent th wheel when you can sell the updates for your sport games full price every year, AND packed them with MT. And it's now spreading to other big names who smelled the big bucks.
In the long run, it will come and bite'em in the ass. By trying to push this pay to win systems everywhere, they're disconnecting more and more with real gamers. And you make games to satisfy gamers, not shareholders.
"Every game, at some point, in some way has currency and they're trying to get additional revenue from each player that plays the game." I can counter this statement with the mention of *one* game series... Dark Souls. While it is technically true that the player contributes additional revenue in the form of buying the DLC, *that* is an actual choice and in-game progression speed is completely in the hands of the player. The gamer doesn't need to go out and spend additional money just to progress faster, and can gather literally everything they need in the game *at release*
Oh... and that bs about skipping the progression... Funny thing really...
I play games *for* the progression... for the experience... and sometimes for the challenge of games like Dark Souls. If you want me to spend $60 on a game *each* time, then I expect my money's worth... which entirely my right as a consumer. If you eliminate my ability to enjoy the game, to simply blow through it in a matter of a small number of hours, then I feel like I'm being cheated.
It's bs like these practices that is pushing me to go *back to previous generations* of gaming.
Skythos And then there’s the recently released Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate, which has ZERO monetisation. All post launch content is free. You pay 1 up-front price and get 200+ hours of content. It’s the same with botw, although that game had DLC, you still had a complete experience if you didn’t buy it. Botw was a massive success.
Is Jones completely oblivious to the industry or is he just stupid?
Tazzie Devil I forgot about Monster Hunter lol Only used Dark Souls because I was playing the remastered one.
Games developers are a mixed bag I would say... there's some that are *completely* out of touch... while others actually try to do right by the fans and gamers. Games journalism on the other hand... *complete* lost cause.
Skythos Imo, you can really tell when playing a game if the developers were passionate about what they were creating.
You can tell that FromSoft cared about Dark Souls. You can tell Nintendo cared about BoTW. You can tell yacht club cared about Shovel Knight.
Do the companies that push these same sports games out every year actually CARE about what they’re making? Yeeeaaah no.
Tazzie Devil Developers who care builds house and offers to help you move in your luggage.
EA house: half built with holes and forces you to pay for every piece put into the house and for their supplies lost and say this for the company
I never left the previous generation of gaming, lol! Even now that I have a PS3 and XBox 360 I still play my PS2 more. I've actually been playing my PS1 more than anything lately, and that's not even nostalgia, as I only got the thing two years ago!
I'll never understand why people put up with shit like this just so they can play a game that is exactly like the one that came before it, and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that.
Lol don't be shy Yong tell them how you really feel :P "You can just fuck right off" made me laugh out load :D
It's true, lootboxes are indeed a choice...and players are CHOOSING not to have them infect their games
The gaming industry needs a change, we should stop buying AAA games for a while.
We should stop playing games from greedy dev for a while. AAA games are okay.
That's what i'm Saying! Hell, go buy a ps2 and get some of the old NBAs and NFLs that was free once you buy the game.
I like where all of our minds are right now. So much that I'm smiling from ear to ear. Love what Belgium is doing. They need to do more. They need to push harder and expose this nonsense, all while informing other governments (if at all possible) get the rest of the world involved. Sadly though, our comments and how we truly feel (and whatever influence Belgium can have on the rest of the world) will not reach the ears of the NBA 2k fans in the U.S.A... the main ones condoning this behavior from NBA 2k developers. I hear it all the time. "I'm getting the game because my friends are getting it." Or my favorite, "I love to play NBA 2k, it's the best basketball game out and the VC is optional." Then they turn around and say, "If you don't buy the VC, you'll be behind everyone else." The most blatantly ignorant bunches of fans I have ever encountered. Then they start to complain about how the game is trash weeks later. Then they start to hope that the next NBA 2k is better and not so VC heavily induced. They are easily manipulated because the NBA 2k devs disguise their tactics and implement new gimmicks to throw the NBA 2k fanbase off of their scent. They complain and complain and want change but then they keep purchasing the game EVERY YEAR hoping for a change. The true definition of insanity has a new meaning. DEFINITION: INSANITY (n)> To be a NBA 2k fan. < that my friends is the new meaning. Share it with the world, contact the dictionary making people. Webster,etc... The NBA 2k fans talk with their mouths but never their wallets. Therefore, change can never be induced. It's up to use wise ones to attack these greedy devs from different fronts of gaming in Hope's of one day not only influence the NBA 2k fanbase, but to also get other parties involved (government maybe) to save gaming and these greedy practices by malicious intent producers and developers. We have to fight the NBA 2k fanbase battle because they are too stupid to fight it themselves.
I'm from Thailand. U just summarize the mentality of 2k fans in my country as well, except they are even more defensive & pathetic.
Whomever supports Loot Boxes should be beaten: these are the people that are responsible for the current corporate greed that destroys games, and puts out garbage games in the process.
Not beaten. I understand your frustration but let's not attack people physically. It's kool I have said the same things you just did before but that's just me getting emotional as you are right now.
They are fucking idiots though and I wish these corporate ass kissers would fuck off for the good of gaming...
You know who's in support of microtransactions? Little dumb ass kids basically with their parents credit card hooked up to their account. This is what theyre growing up with so they think its normal to pay for in game items with real money. Dont get me wrong, it was around when I was young too, but mainly in Free to play MMO games for PC. However, I'm glad ive never made one microtransaction purchase in my life.
It is a choice, a manipulating one.
I totally agree and I’m glad you talk about these anti-consumer practices, gamemakers gotta know they can’t milk us like this anymore
To those in Belgium: please contact your local representatives and let them know that you support their work, and want them to push against micro-transactions and loot boxes even harder.