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ความคิดเห็น • 76

  • @thefungusfriend563
    @thefungusfriend563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    First smash con and now this, Light can't get anything going for him in this matchup

    • @silvermoonninja4383
      @silvermoonninja4383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I read light as luigi and was like whaaaat 😂

  • @Cashmoneez
    @Cashmoneez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Remember when people were talking bout gnw being one of the worst characters in the game? Now Maister showing up and everyone calling him broken.

    • @laserquacker7027
      @laserquacker7027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We judge too fast. We should wait and see before talking.

    • @tsean1106
      @tsean1106 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get2DaChopper should of known he was borked with all of his disjoints and the best out of shield play in the game

    • @CastafioreOnYoutube
      @CastafioreOnYoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      People gotta let the meta develop. Just listen to what ZeRo had to say about 2.1 Patch G&W back in March 😂
      "Mr. Game & Watch in this game is a massive struggle. His best option is Up-B OoS which is, extremely quick, has set knockback, you can combo out of it, but the problem is that in Ultimate, you're blocking, you're losing. You don't win in this game by taking pressure for free, and alot of things can outrange the Up-B OoS anyway so it's not even that good. In reality his best option is actually useless half the time. They took out his old F-air, ... and replaced it with this terrible bomb drop. Takes a while to come out, and to make it's way to your opponent, so the other guy has like a year and a half to get out of the way, and it can be blocked, it can be rolled out of, but the worst part ... is that it has literally no priority at all. So if Mr. Game & Watch wants to hit you with his F-air, you smack him in the head with a quick move, and he just has to take it! And the bomb disappears! Really, there's no trade, not even a trade for that, that's terrible, it's absolutely a terrible move, I call the new G&W F-air a training mode move. ... The worst part is that it makes his edgeguarding terrible, he has no pressure or threatening move when he's facing you in the air, forcing him to always turn around, which is awkward and gives him a blind spot. So it just ruins a big portion of the character having that F-air. It also means in neutral he's always jumping backwards, which also limits his neutral game even more since he can't do things like standing grab if he constantly facing the opposite way, maybe he can't do a certain smash attack ... in general just moving backwards makes it so you're always, I wanna say moving away from the opponent, it makes it easier to lose stage control, and I think that's really damaging to his neutral. To make matters worse, he's incredibly light so he just dies early to everything. He has a lack of damage output as well, terrible limited options just because of the F-air, but at least he's got a consistent good recovery unlike Little Mac I guess."
      ~ZeRo, March 7th, 2019, on why G&W is Low Tier in 2.1 patch

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tsean1106 The disjoints only bring his reach up to average overall btw

  • @joshua_krieger
    @joshua_krieger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've seen Light take on bad match ups before but never switch. Maister made Light switch off Fox.

  • @100apples5
    @100apples5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Light should just ask rogue for a tank top shirt

    • @Futuristic271
      @Futuristic271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He'd be too powerful

    • @alexbryant3183
      @alexbryant3183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      No he said that he likes to roll the sleeves up lol

    • @swizzbeatz2075
      @swizzbeatz2075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      but then he couldn't power up. When the sleeves go up its serious gamer time

    • @ole38
      @ole38 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@swizzbeatz2075 he could take off his shirt

  • @humbertogarcia2564
    @humbertogarcia2564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    5:49
    Light: Take this
    Maister: No u

  • @thelordoftheweebs9501
    @thelordoftheweebs9501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Let's go mexico! Maister carrying GW himself. He's earned his spot as a potential top 10 player.

    • @QuaseemS
      @QuaseemS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      He is top 10 without a doubt. He just gotta attend more tournament’s in the US. I can also see him taking one in the future.

    • @ianngoat
      @ianngoat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Quaseem Smith definitely but he won nightmare on smashville tho

    • @jijmotorp3079
      @jijmotorp3079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think he is. Top 3 at super major is no joke

    • @darkyu3229
      @darkyu3229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jij motorp no it's top 10, 1st mkleo, 2/3 samsora or tweek, 4 nairo, 5/6/7 marss, maister or ligth

    • @jijmotorp3079
      @jijmotorp3079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@darkyu3229 *getting top 3 at a super major is no joke.

  • @DocsimusPrime
    @DocsimusPrime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    5:26 LMAO

  • @anathax9330
    @anathax9330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Dude maister is such a BEAST

    • @rairudokohai594
      @rairudokohai594 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah dude just up b

    • @eM-kb6sm
      @eM-kb6sm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really. GMe and watch is brain dead to play. Meister is very good, but GW is easy to play.

    • @savonmcleod7265
      @savonmcleod7265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eM-kb6sm if that was the case you would see more of him, paluntena is what we call brain dead

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rairudokohai594 You should get your eyes checked.

  • @Chromeeyyy
    @Chromeeyyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9 minutes?!

  • @pokantonio
    @pokantonio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In this matchup is hard for fox because he needs to play very different, respecting landings and grabing a lot

  • @AndreasSaag
    @AndreasSaag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "It does not bully Japanese teenage boys or it gets the bucket again."

  • @namenamename390
    @namenamename390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Up B ooS intensifies

  • @Depths17
    @Depths17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm officially a Maister fan now

  • @jijmotorp3079
    @jijmotorp3079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Light just doesn't know how to deal with up B.

    • @FabulousJejmaze
      @FabulousJejmaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well it’s basically impossible

    • @DrGandW
      @DrGandW 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair with Fox your best bet is baiting it out but then he’s not guaranteed a punish at all, it’s just a hard time for Fox to get hits on G&W. Wolf deals a lot better, Light’s Wolf just isn’t quiiite good enough to beat Maister yet, probably needed a few more games to adapt.

    • @DemonEyeHelix
      @DemonEyeHelix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The problem isn't the up B itself, it's the fact that Maister can sit in shield and up B if light touches his shield. If Maister sits in shield every time Light approaches, he can't do anything. Fox gets very little off grabs and has no kill throw, so as long as Maister just holds shield, Light can't kill him. All of Light's kills come from pressuring shields and poking with backairs, or getting Upsmashes after falling nairs. Holding shield with GnW and up B'ing out beats all of those options.
      TL;DR Fox can't kill GnW if GnW shields whenever Fox approaches.

    • @jijmotorp3079
      @jijmotorp3079 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonEyeHelix same for pikachu and pichu. They have the same trouble at passing gnw defensive playstyle

    • @letsmakeit110
      @letsmakeit110 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fox loses to characters with good out of shield options, because he cant do much against a shield. Keep in mind that going for risky plays like a grab is even riskier for Fox because his disadvantage is so bad.

  • @s.g.e5523
    @s.g.e5523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    why does he have a good wolf?

    • @toxiclightning5303
      @toxiclightning5303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cuz wolf easy af to play

    • @CristianFlores-wz8rc
      @CristianFlores-wz8rc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bruh half the players have a pocket wolf

    • @paulle9462
      @paulle9462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everyone in Smash 4 had pocket Cloud. In Ultimate, everyone has a pocket Wolf. Lmaooo

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulle9462 I feel like at this point people wish they had a pocket GnW instead

  • @bradybrandt9326
    @bradybrandt9326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Clapped

  • @krosshair450
    @krosshair450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And with that, Maister 3-0s the International Assassin.

  • @ハラ-カシボート
    @ハラ-カシボート 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    私はLightが大好きです!!

  • @nealio1000
    @nealio1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That OoP is just absurd. Not my favorite play style but it certainly has huge results. I play fox as well and it's really easy to overwhelm an opponent by throwing out a million hit boxes but characters like GnW with crazy OoP are real tough for fox. No dash attack is safe. Only nairs allowed to open up combos. Its a tough match up

    • @CastafioreOnYoutube
      @CastafioreOnYoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It gets even worse when you're in disadvantage against G&W, both in stocks and neutral. When G&W puts you in disadvantage in the air, he juggles so hard. Fox fortunately has the tools of lightspeed fastfall and reflector, but Nair can snub both of those to an extent with a huge hitbox. Then when you're down in stocks, you have no choice but to approach and try to get something going, at which point G&W can just play safe and switch into counterplay.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      OoP?

    • @nealio1000
      @nealio1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanlevesque7812 meant to type OoS or out of shield because g&w has the 1 frame up b out of shield and its brutal

  • @Dysleksikk
    @Dysleksikk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought G&W was sorta ruined in this game. Maister deff changed my mind.

    • @moss7910
      @moss7910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Idk why so many people thought he was ruined in this game due to move changes, I’ve always seen these changes by giving him so much more control

  • @darkyu3229
    @darkyu3229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    G&W it's a special character, the move set are so different of anyone, because it's hard to defeat

  • @trashpanda3172
    @trashpanda3172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    GnW is just.. Smh

  • @eM-kb6sm
    @eM-kb6sm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Down air and up B is so brain dead with game and watch. This Character carries players.

    • @Ale_lgp
      @Ale_lgp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Which players does he carry? The only G&W I’ve seen consistently place this well is Maister. All you do is complain, this is the third comment of yours I’ve seen and I bet there’s plenty more lmaoooo

    • @sailor3047
      @sailor3047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      go back to losing to 90k gsp k. rools in quickplay

    • @savonmcleod7265
      @savonmcleod7265 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sailor3047 🤣

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That literally couldn't be true, considering there's only one main worth mentioning. It's also the sort of thing that only scrubs would ever say.