This poor tank. It used to a viable alternative to the Tiger II until it received its massive buffs. Now the VK 45.02 A is just a slightly faster Tiger II that's worse in every other statistic. If Wargaming gave it the same armor and gun buffs, it'd be viable again. The same goes for its brother at Tier IX, the VK B. Used to be an alternative to the E 75, but then the E 75 got buffed, and the alternative was left to rot. I used to play them both all the time, and they are still some of my most played vehicles, but playing them in today's meta would be handicapping my team.
@@artm1973 No, it isn't. Its gun has a lower alpha, which means it trades worse. It has much lower track traverse, which means it can't quickly react to tactical changes, such as having to turn to face an enemy that's flanked it or appeared somewhere unexpected. On top of that, it has a much lower speed limit, which prevents it from exploiting of gaps in the enemy's line of defense, as well as taking early, advantageous positions before other heavies reach them. Its gun also has a longer aim time, which means it has to expose itself for a longer period when moving out of cover to take a shot. Finally, it has a considerably weaker turret front, which means that enemies will have a much easier time firing through the front of it with gold rounds and even high penetration standard rounds, which completely negates any advantage in side-scraping it may have over the E 75. In all, it's slower, worse armed, and worse armored.
@@DovahFett Huh, you're right, alpha is lower, though VK's reload is the tiniest bit faster. E-75's aim IS faster though not by much. Turret is almost identical (I thought they were) but E-75 is 280 vs 265. The VK's turret for some reason seems to bounce more though. If I'm at one end of the hallway in Safe Harbor and at E-75 is at the other, I have no fear of him penning me, whereas I will likely pen him. Same with heavy spot at Siegfried Line. I agree its speed and traverse speed make it far less versatile than the E-75. I've been on a rear mounted heavy kick lately, don't know why lol. And when did people start acting like meta is a word in the context they use it in WOT? lol
@@artm1973 Well it had nice front plate at one point but they nerfed it. u can side crape round the corners, but its easy to be flanked. I think E-75 is still better.
This tank was really nice before the buffs at german line, it was easier to play than tiger 2 and the armor was more effective. Just peaking frontally from corner, bounces from upper plate was a thing
@@joe125ful Before all the power creep Tier 8 premiums and heavies started to become more common (so like 8 years ago), the VK A was really strong. It was pretty fast compared to most other heavies, so you could take it to medium tank positions on maps and beat up the enemy mediums with a tank that had more armor than them, more alpha than them, and enough mobility to chase them down if they tried to run.
@@PerritoGG Define enjoyable:) Arta can one shot you MM suck and many tanks was broken,high corridor maps suck and you can shoot throw rock on one map...but yes most of the games was not 15:0 simulator,HE ammo was unbalnced as hell too and team balance/tanks balance was broken too. But look on bright side,new maps,tank buffs,fixed climbing,arta fixed,a lot more detailed/balanced maps,lots of new tanks..
@@joe125ful The game has more corridors maps now than ever. It used to hace way more open maps before. The one with the swamps and the one in the peninsula were freaking hilarious. Discounting artillery, at least people had a lot of options in op tech tree tanks. Now there are only a few op premium tanks and the game is infested by them, you see them every game. The game was clowny and one had fun rolling around even with a peashooter. Now the game isn't clowny but it isn't competitive either, just a shitshow.
Hi Skill, Great video like always Dude! This must be the tank for me because in WOT I am certainly Below Average!!! LOL I am doing better since I decided to stay below Tier Eight, so maybe not... Godspeed everyone.
Progetto from the first battle: - has a max level progressive emblem you get for playing 600 battles with a tank - has no gun mark at all Is he trash? Absolutely.
I loved this tank, played very well at over 1700 dmg per game about 8-10 yrs ago but my WR was crap like 44% and I blame it on NA's MM. I did think it was a good tank... Also keep in mind that I am almost a 53% WR player with just over 10k games played. I haven't played WOT in almost 7 yrs now...
One of my fav tanks back in the day and I did much better with it than Tger ll. The amount of dmg I blocked by angling the front was crazy. I'm sure it's much worse now, but that's WOT.
Problem is people need to stop looking at a tanks role and judging. Like the Lee, horrible medium tank but if you treat like a TD and go in with TD mindset it isn't that bad, not amazing mind you, but not horrible. There are a number of tanks like this. This tank here if you treat it like a heavy medium and stop thinking of it as a pure heavy tank you will do better and enjoy more. There are certain light tanks like this as well. Not all are scouts, some are mobile snipers/flankers, some are skirmishers and even with the scouts there are active and passive.
i have this tank and i have it as the beginner pack of this tank that means different turret which is weaker and a 8.90 seconds gun with low pen and 200 damage atleast and its tErRIbLe but if i get it fully completed it will be good
Day 5 of asking for GSOR or LHMTV video since LHMTV video was like ages ago... well even no. That video back then was like british light tanks showcase so that doesnt even count.
I'm sure sitting in bushes and camping is the riveting game play the vast majority of his consumer base for his videos wants to watch. Lights are boring lmao.
@@billdover3165 that's what u think. Its a combination of fear of getting spoted and excitement at the same time. And seeing how assisting DMG is going up is equaly satisfying as dealing DMG. U gotta be very Smart to be great light tank and when ure outplaying entire enemy team by sitting/active spotting them all ... Seeing how that affects results of battles...... How can u tell its boring
The tank should really be reclassified as a medium. So it can play the roll it should play better. Cut its hp back a bit and give it some reasonable concealment. Should be a completely reasonable thing to do!
@@DGARedRaven I would have to somewhat agree. I still believe the change would be for the better. The 45a is pretty bad and very unbecoming of the tank at the end of the line. It doesn't teach you the proper techniques for pz vii playing. Then again the whole line besides the ten is a poor example of technique. The pzvii is a unique tank with an playstyle that is very different. Its the one tank in the game where you actually want them to shoot at your front plate.
This tank is terribad. I started playing this tank last year during the Tech Tree featured and Tier for Tier it is one of the worse heavy tank. However this tank was surprisingly easy to mark and get Ace Tanker in it. Lol!
What does everyone feel about buying accounts? I want to play with the top tier tanks but I don’t have the time to grind all day nor the want. What’s the chance I get banned for buying one?
This poor tank. It used to a viable alternative to the Tiger II until it received its massive buffs. Now the VK 45.02 A is just a slightly faster Tiger II that's worse in every other statistic. If Wargaming gave it the same armor and gun buffs, it'd be viable again.
The same goes for its brother at Tier IX, the VK B. Used to be an alternative to the E 75, but then the E 75 got buffed, and the alternative was left to rot.
I used to play them both all the time, and they are still some of my most played vehicles, but playing them in today's meta would be handicapping my team.
I have over 1500 battles in this tank. It was pretty OK back I the day, but like u said in current meta it's below average.
In a city map the VK B is still king over the E-75.
@@artm1973 No, it isn't. Its gun has a lower alpha, which means it trades worse. It has much lower track traverse, which means it can't quickly react to tactical changes, such as having to turn to face an enemy that's flanked it or appeared somewhere unexpected. On top of that, it has a much lower speed limit, which prevents it from exploiting of gaps in the enemy's line of defense, as well as taking early, advantageous positions before other heavies reach them. Its gun also has a longer aim time, which means it has to expose itself for a longer period when moving out of cover to take a shot. Finally, it has a considerably weaker turret front, which means that enemies will have a much easier time firing through the front of it with gold rounds and even high penetration standard rounds, which completely negates any advantage in side-scraping it may have over the E 75.
In all, it's slower, worse armed, and worse armored.
@@DovahFett Huh, you're right, alpha is lower, though VK's reload is the tiniest bit faster. E-75's aim IS faster though not by much. Turret is almost identical (I thought they were) but E-75 is 280 vs 265. The VK's turret for some reason seems to bounce more though. If I'm at one end of the hallway in Safe Harbor and at E-75 is at the other, I have no fear of him penning me, whereas I will likely pen him. Same with heavy spot at Siegfried Line.
I agree its speed and traverse speed make it far less versatile than the E-75. I've been on a rear mounted heavy kick lately, don't know why lol.
And when did people start acting like meta is a word in the context they use it in WOT? lol
@@artm1973 Well it had nice front plate at one point but they nerfed it. u can side crape round the corners, but its easy to be flanked. I think E-75 is still better.
I decided to go down unpopular techtrees just for fun.
Have both 45.02 and 110.
Im The Guy with The bourrasque on erlenberg, i was marking it, now its done and ofc i seen The video :)))
gg
gg
Borat is op
If You don't shower, give us some A-44, Obj. 416 gameplay.
This tank was really nice before the buffs at german line, it was easier to play than tiger 2 and the armor was more effective. Just peaking frontally from corner, bounces from upper plate was a thing
I have different experience..paper.
@@joe125ful Before all the power creep Tier 8 premiums and heavies started to become more common (so like 8 years ago), the VK A was really strong. It was pretty fast compared to most other heavies, so you could take it to medium tank positions on maps and beat up the enemy mediums with a tank that had more armor than them, more alpha than them, and enough mobility to chase them down if they tried to run.
@@joe125ful WoT was a very different game 8 years ago. And more enjoyable, imo.
@@PerritoGG Define enjoyable:)
Arta can one shot you MM suck and many tanks was broken,high corridor maps suck and you can shoot throw rock on one map...but yes most of the games was not 15:0 simulator,HE ammo was unbalnced as hell too and team balance/tanks balance was broken too.
But look on bright side,new maps,tank buffs,fixed climbing,arta fixed,a lot more detailed/balanced maps,lots of new tanks..
@@joe125ful The game has more corridors maps now than ever. It used to hace way more open maps before. The one with the swamps and the one in the peninsula were freaking hilarious. Discounting artillery, at least people had a lot of options in op tech tree tanks. Now there are only a few op premium tanks and the game is infested by them, you see them every game. The game was clowny and one had fun rolling around even with a peashooter. Now the game isn't clowny but it isn't competitive either, just a shitshow.
Remember that today's "average" is out of proportion lol. Tanks like Defender, Burasq, Skoda, LT 432, Progetto are literally tier 9 tanks in tier 8.
One of my favorite tanks. It's a beast if the rng let's you pen. Have to fire gold but it is what it is.
A question: will the survey be delivered to WG to inform them how your fanbase feel about their maps?
WG have no ears or feelings so I doubt Mr Baboon will send the survey to them.
Good question :shrek:
Like....why bother? ...
Considering how many years it takes for WG to do anything balance-wise...
I like the VK 4502 A; it's like a tier 8 M6.
Hi Skill,
Great video like always Dude!
This must be the tank for me because in WOT I am certainly Below Average!!! LOL
I am doing better since I decided to stay below Tier Eight, so maybe not...
Godspeed everyone.
Progetto from the first battle:
- has a max level progressive emblem you get for playing 600 battles with a tank
- has no gun mark at all
Is he trash? Absolutely.
maybe he is hiding his 3 marks, so people dont focus him :D
@@durachoks it's possible to hide marks?
@@LVArturs yeah, you can switch them off in general settings
Back in the day this thing was so much fun.
What's an Astron Rex?
we need horrible mondays back
Am I blind I don't see a link to the survey...?
Cheers!
Thanks Skill - great fun as usual
Average Tiger II fans vs Average VK 45.02 A enjoyer
Skieeeeel can you play with obj 257?
Lol, what did the arty do in the first battle. You saved him from progetto, and he decided to just yolo in front to die anyway xD
Question: What happens if Skill goes 1v1 at the end of the game vs a baboon?
the baboon king wins.
lots of dancing and a draw?
It's sad that they didn't buff this tank's turret together with Tiger 2.
I loved this tank, played very well at over 1700 dmg per game about 8-10 yrs ago but my WR was crap like 44% and I blame it on NA's MM. I did think it was a good tank... Also keep in mind that I am almost a 53% WR player with just over 10k games played. I haven't played WOT in almost 7 yrs now...
it was a good choice to leave the game!
I can relate to the saying "it is always beneficial to punish the aggressor" as a Ukranian tourist.
Great tactical play last game.
One of my fav tanks back in the day and I did much better with it than Tger ll. The amount of dmg I blocked by angling the front was crazy. I'm sure it's much worse now, but that's WOT.
Problem is people need to stop looking at a tanks role and judging. Like the Lee, horrible medium tank but if you treat like a TD and go in with TD mindset it isn't that bad, not amazing mind you, but not horrible. There are a number of tanks like this. This tank here if you treat it like a heavy medium and stop thinking of it as a pure heavy tank you will do better and enjoy more. There are certain light tanks like this as well. Not all are scouts, some are mobile snipers/flankers, some are skirmishers and even with the scouts there are active and passive.
Skill: I feel a bit dirty these days, so here is a survey for you 😈
i have this tank and i have it as the beginner pack of this tank that means different turret which is weaker and a 8.90 seconds gun with low pen and 200 damage atleast and its tErRIbLe
but if i get it fully completed it will be good
It's not horrible, gun is nice, I had some good games with it. ofc against skoda56 or most other heavies will not do well...
If I had your ping let alone you accuracy... I love WG love! I miss when I had it..
Day 5 of asking for GSOR or LHMTV video since LHMTV video was like ages ago... well even no. That video back then was like british light tanks showcase so that doesnt even count.
I'm sure sitting in bushes and camping is the riveting game play the vast majority of his consumer base for his videos wants to watch. Lights are boring lmao.
@@billdover3165 that's what u think. Its a combination of fear of getting spoted and excitement at the same time. And seeing how assisting DMG is going up is equaly satisfying as dealing DMG. U gotta be very Smart to be great light tank and when ure outplaying entire enemy team by sitting/active spotting them all ... Seeing how that affects results of battles...... How can u tell its boring
Pretty tank, the gun is awesome accurate. Too bad he doesn't have hardly any armor.
I like design VK too but other things suck:(
He has armor ... angle at the corner corectly.
The tank should really be reclassified as a medium. So it can play the roll it should play better.
Cut its hp back a bit and give it some reasonable concealment. Should be a completely reasonable thing to do!
Yeah, but reclassifying it as a medium would make the transition to the Panzer VII more akward.
@@DGARedRaven I would have to somewhat agree. I still believe the change would be for the better. The 45a is pretty bad and very unbecoming of the tank at the end of the line. It doesn't teach you the proper techniques for pz vii playing.
Then again the whole line besides the ten is a poor example of technique.
The pzvii is a unique tank with an playstyle that is very different. Its the one tank in the game where you actually want them to shoot at your front plate.
What are the chances with this video. I just unlocked this tank and I have to grind it
If I play, I always assume someone is always in front of me :D
Cmon skill this tank aka mini slipper isnt below average its quite good
It's dog shit
Sranje je, jedan od najlošijih tier 8
@@vukasinbosanac8542 ne mlati
Skill on prok is a cheat code
This tank is terribad. I started playing this tank last year during the Tech Tree featured and Tier for Tier it is one of the worse heavy tank.
However this tank was surprisingly easy to mark and get Ace Tanker in it. Lol!
🙏
I would say VK Is one of the worst tier 8 heavys . Even O-ho es better (with 100mm gun)
Yep O-HO can bounce stuff:)
Day 10 of asking for AMBT final opinion video
fun match #1
Play this tank while in the bottom tier LOL even gold can't pen.
This is a medium tbh
SKIEEEELLLL
Mines needs to be banned perma
Skieeeeeeeeel #1
Garbage tank it really need buffs compared by ten times better Tiger 2.
Players like that lynx on the friendly team in the 2nd battle should have their accounts banned.
What does everyone feel about buying accounts? I want to play with the top tier tanks but I don’t have the time to grind all day nor the want. What’s the chance I get banned for buying one?
I hate that tank with passion. Was so glad so sell this piece of sh*t