It removes rng annoyance of getting lavae spawning cycle instead of enraging which makes the fight super long. It also removes guaranteed hit after that spawning cycle. For me it just speeds up the fight as it's nothing special in the first place either way, you just do 6 hits and dodge, this boss is just a damage sponge, having 27500 hp with basically no special attacks
@@vinegar358 Very nice strat. But I have to agree with op about the misnomer. You said dfly has no "special attack", but her special attack IS the lavae. The wall alone is a cheese strat. Shifting the arena center on top of that essentially breaks her.
Well, again, this discussion. I was arguing with someone and after I was convinced that walls and flute are indeed cheese, from now on I only fight df without walls and flute. It's quite a fun fight.
this really teached me alot about getting good at killing bosses i used to always craft shit ton of marble armor and football helmets and just tank the damage for almost every single boss safe to say that this strat is wayy less than the resource dump that i use
Idk where are 80% came from as 80% she was aggroed on me. This just saves you some time, if you block the lavae with classic strat you can also count this as cheese. I also don't know the reason why the center shifts like that, but it seems to be an intended feature
@@Rudy137 cheesing is beating the boss with no effort. Here you still need to know how to kite properly to do this without healing. While I do agree that it's not really cool to remove the boss ability to do X but with this boss it's a different story. Doing no walls strategy on characters who can't 1 cycle lavae(without animation cancelling) require a shit ton of armor and healing because they will stockpile you which becomes impossible to kite so you might as well just use 12 walls and call it a day at this point. You want to kill this boss approximately on day 10-15 to also have some time for ruins before winter starts. Will this boss loot be worth it if they nerf the wall method and leave lavae damage and health the same? No. I'm not the fan of using unintended ways but this boss is an exception because I either do it that way or don't do it at all
People like myself like to kill dfly before day 10. Tanking requires much more resources. The amount of time it would take for you to gather armor and healing can be more than just simply kiting. Tanking can be a good strategy depending on the scenario. Deerclops campfire tank is better than kiting.
Blocking lavae is cheesing, but so is using panflute to stop enraged form. Whether you agree or disagree with me, I can say for sure that nobody wants to fight dfly the "normal" way which is without doing any of what I said earlier. Your choice... I'd say that "intended" way to deal with lavae is to freeze them with an ice staff and using panflute is intended way to skip enraged form but whatever... Cool strategy, liked it!
@@not_umbre no cheese is when you trivialize the boss for instance how wendy can make toadstool AI bug and not do anything, or when you use flingo to make toadstool not move at all this is not cheese, as you still need to fight dfly and kite him
You have to like... wait till day 75 before the bearger comes and it's the first time I'm hearing about armored bearger. This is called "easiest way" because it decreases the difficulty of the fight and has basically the lowest fight preparation requirements, unless you do this as a weremoose or something which is very limited
Idk why would you need to farm dragonfly in late game. If you wanna gems you can just do fuelweaver ruins cycle as it gives a lot more gems and other stuff too, if you want scales you can duplicate them with construction amulet/deconstruction staff via the turf
@@vinegar358 because killing bosses repeatedly is the only way to play the late game. The other alternative is to mega base, but if you wanna build I would reccomend minecraft or factorio. The game has so many of these little core flaws that I resided to cheese strats so I wouldn't lose my mind over trying to make this game make sense.
Cool strategy. But I feel like the easiest way to kill dfly is actually tanking with marble suits. You probably get the same dps. This way is cheaper tho
this is kinda weird to me if the larvae don't see the magma pool as a object why are they attacking you instead of running into the pool because they path around walls
I don't know exactly because I've never looked at the code of the game, but I guess when she enters the lavae phase, she checks nearby ponds in a range. If she's far enough, she'll only detect one of them.
okay no I need to make a comment. cheesing doesn't just mean doing something that makes the fight easier, or require no effort. it's using mechanics that weren't intended to be used, including bugs. blocking off the lavae in any way is cheesing. you're abusing mob pathing AI in order to make the fight easier. something like panfluting isn't cheesing as its intended.
If you mean put it to light up the area in the night ig you can. It would be even better than lantern as it provides more light. Default fire campfires also should work
This is the old wall and sign thing but with no signs and walls (block the larvae, focus on dragonfly and kite properly, etc). Also a cheese method is just a way of doing something that requires less skill, not no skill. That being said, kiting attacks honestly isn’t that hard so this is basically a cheese Also please stop telling everyone and correcting them saying it’s not a cheese method because it is and they all know it. Blocking the random rng of larvae spawning everywhere is still making the fight easier which ultimately results in this fight being a cheese.
Everybody has a thing called opinion and my opinion states that this isn't cheesing therefore no cheese will remain in thumbnail. You can call using pan flute on its own a cheese since it decreases difficulty of the fight as well
looks like you finally realized you were indeed cheesing since you changed the thumbnail. Whether you believe it or not, at least you're not clickbaiting 👍
@@TheLifeLaVita well when people upload classic wall strategy they don't claim their videos to be CHEESE STRATEGY and this is essentially the same amount of cheese so I just changed "no" to "some". I'd rather never mentioned the word cheese here as half of the comments about it
they don't mention it because everyone knows it's cheese, it's the "NO cheese" that's a problem because it isn't true, if you saw a youtube video with no cheese and the walls then it was wrong :D@@vinegar358
The easiest you can get is with gunpowder of course but here you have the best ratio between resources and difficulty of the fight, usual wall strat always gets you hit after DF spawns the larvae unless you have a lot of speed bonus/ice staff and you don't get a lot of free hits too like here
Cool strat! I think the ‘no cheese’ in the thumbnail is a misnomer, as I’d say this strat is the definition of cheese
It removes rng annoyance of getting lavae spawning cycle instead of enraging which makes the fight super long. It also removes guaranteed hit after that spawning cycle. For me it just speeds up the fight as it's nothing special in the first place either way, you just do 6 hits and dodge, this boss is just a damage sponge, having 27500 hp with basically no special attacks
@@vinegar358which. Is cheesing..
@@vinegar358 Very nice strat. But I have to agree with op about the misnomer. You said dfly has no "special attack", but her special attack IS the lavae. The wall alone is a cheese strat. Shifting the arena center on top of that essentially breaks her.
@@dexobj it doesn't break her. It's the same amount of cheese as the classic strategy but faster and safer
Well, again, this discussion. I was arguing with someone and after I was convinced that walls and flute are indeed cheese, from now on I only fight df without walls and flute. It's quite a fun fight.
Call it cheese or not, this is good stuff, thanks for the vid man :D
This was very, very helpful, and finally gave me a clear, simple understanding of how to do the boss fight effectively. Much appreciated!
this really teached me alot about getting good at killing bosses
i used to always craft shit ton of marble armor and football helmets and just tank the damage for almost every single boss
safe to say that this strat is wayy less than the resource dump that i use
I’d say 80% of this is cheese lol but that’s not a bad thing. Really cool strategy! I wonder why she changes her arena boundaries like that
Idk where are 80% came from as 80% she was aggroed on me. This just saves you some time, if you block the lavae with classic strat you can also count this as cheese. I also don't know the reason why the center shifts like that, but it seems to be an intended feature
@@vinegar358the og wall metod is a cheese to be honest lol
The wall method IS cheese… nothing wrong with using more of it in this game. We just gotta call it how it is, and this is definitely cheese lol
@@Rudy137 cheesing is beating the boss with no effort. Here you still need to know how to kite properly to do this without healing. While I do agree that it's not really cool to remove the boss ability to do X but with this boss it's a different story. Doing no walls strategy on characters who can't 1 cycle lavae(without animation cancelling) require a shit ton of armor and healing because they will stockpile you which becomes impossible to kite so you might as well just use 12 walls and call it a day at this point. You want to kill this boss approximately on day 10-15 to also have some time for ruins before winter starts. Will this boss loot be worth it if they nerf the wall method and leave lavae damage and health the same? No. I'm not the fan of using unintended ways but this boss is an exception because I either do it that way or don't do it at all
@@vinegar358 I mean not dealing with her minions removes some od the effort u have to put on fighting dfly lol
really handy to know, thanks for the detailed guide
Thanks for teaching your ways, our savior vinegar358! 🙏
This is badass thanks for sharing!
Wormwood with night armor, a pan flute, dark swords and some cactus/compost wraps can tank it tbh
My favorite method lol
People like myself like to kill dfly before day 10. Tanking requires much more resources. The amount of time it would take for you to gather armor and healing can be more than just simply kiting.
Tanking can be a good strategy depending on the scenario. Deerclops campfire tank is better than kiting.
Blocking lavae is cheesing, but so is using panflute to stop enraged form. Whether you agree or disagree with me, I can say for sure that nobody wants to fight dfly the "normal" way which is without doing any of what I said earlier. Your choice...
I'd say that "intended" way to deal with lavae is to freeze them with an ice staff and using panflute is intended way to skip enraged form but whatever...
Cool strategy, liked it!
this is not cheese, this is clever
No, I'm pretty sure taking advantage of an unintended strat to make something easier is the definition of "cheese"
@@not_umbre no
cheese is when you trivialize the boss
for instance how wendy can make toadstool AI bug and not do anything, or when you use flingo to make toadstool not move at all
this is not cheese, as you still need to fight dfly and kite him
armored bearger can solo her if you wanna skip the whole fight, but it requires rifts open and a bearger to show up.
You have to like... wait till day 75 before the bearger comes and it's the first time I'm hearing about armored bearger. This is called "easiest way" because it decreases the difficulty of the fight and has basically the lowest fight preparation requirements, unless you do this as a weremoose or something which is very limited
@@vinegar358 if you already did late -game stuff. armored bearger is the easiest way I killed it.
Idk why would you need to farm dragonfly in late game. If you wanna gems you can just do fuelweaver ruins cycle as it gives a lot more gems and other stuff too, if you want scales you can duplicate them with construction amulet/deconstruction staff via the turf
@@vinegar358 because killing bosses repeatedly is the only way to play the late game. The other alternative is to mega base, but if you wanna build I would reccomend minecraft or factorio. The game has so many of these little core flaws that I resided to cheese strats so I wouldn't lose my mind over trying to make this game make sense.
Cool strategy. But I feel like the easiest way to kill dfly is actually tanking with marble suits. You probably get the same dps. This way is cheaper tho
I rushed d fly on day 4 with this lmao, free scaled furnace
This is an interesting strat. I rush dfly on pubs all the time and usually kill her before day 6 ( my personal best being day 3 ).
Well you could have more lanterns
Really Cool
didnt know about that one
"no cheese" and then proceeds to cheesing haha. But cool video tho!
Blocking lavae = cheesing
You're a genius!
this is kinda weird to me if the larvae don't see the magma pool as a object why are they attacking you instead of running into the pool because they path around walls
Really useful, thanks
Still dont get how freezing or sleeping makes the df move her arena.
7:33 how did you drop the lantern without using your mouse
Hold shift and press an inventory key I believe
well, i'm wondering why the dragonfly only spawn in one lava pool. anybody who can tell me why?
I don't know exactly because I've never looked at the code of the game, but I guess when she enters the lavae phase, she checks nearby ponds in a range. If she's far enough, she'll only detect one of them.
1000 iq by using cheese
one month ago by salem in his dragonfly speedrun vid
I knew there's going to be a video that youtube won't index for me. Ig I'm gonna credit his video. Thanks for the info
okay no I need to make a comment. cheesing doesn't just mean doing something that makes the fight easier, or require no effort. it's using mechanics that weren't intended to be used, including bugs. blocking off the lavae in any way is cheesing. you're abusing mob pathing AI in order to make the fight easier.
something like panfluting isn't cheesing as its intended.
Thanks for making a comment, very appreciated
Is it works on mobile?
I almost did that on survival server but ping is jumped to 120 💀💀
Can i use some endothermic fire?
If you mean put it to light up the area in the night ig you can. It would be even better than lantern as it provides more light. Default fire campfires also should work
@@vinegar358 I'd suggest a north star tbh, I've rushed the ruins before beating the dragon fly and got my hands on multiple staffs and magiluminance
No, if you put endothermic fire near Dragonfly, she'll eat it and become blue dragonfly™®© that has 999999 health, 300 hp attack, has a temperature drain and will reveal your ip address if you die to her
@@alexowo8408 good
@@vinegar358 not menacing at all
LetMeSoloHer
This is just the same strategy with cooler wall placement and you have a lesser chance of getting damaged
This decreases the length of the fight in half so worth it imo
Nifty
Yo? nice stuff
This is the old wall and sign thing but with no signs and walls (block the larvae, focus on dragonfly and kite properly, etc). Also a cheese method is just a way of doing something that requires less skill, not no skill. That being said, kiting attacks honestly isn’t that hard so this is basically a cheese
Also please stop telling everyone and correcting them saying it’s not a cheese method because it is and they all know it. Blocking the random rng of larvae spawning everywhere is still making the fight easier which ultimately results in this fight being a cheese.
Everybody has a thing called opinion and my opinion states that this isn't cheesing therefore no cheese will remain in thumbnail. You can call using pan flute on its own a cheese since it decreases difficulty of the fight as well
I agree, but the majority of the community says it is cheese so I would still recommend changing the thumbnail to say this strategy has little cheese
looks like you finally realized you were indeed cheesing since you changed the thumbnail. Whether you believe it or not, at least you're not clickbaiting 👍
@@TheLifeLaVita well when people upload classic wall strategy they don't claim their videos to be CHEESE STRATEGY and this is essentially the same amount of cheese so I just changed "no" to "some". I'd rather never mentioned the word cheese here as half of the comments about it
they don't mention it because everyone knows it's cheese, it's the "NO cheese" that's a problem because it isn't true, if you saw a youtube video with no cheese and the walls then it was wrong :D@@vinegar358
This is hardly the easiest. Cheapest anf fastest, yes, but not "easiest".
The easiest you can get is with gunpowder of course but here you have the best ratio between resources and difficulty of the fight, usual wall strat always gets you hit after DF spawns the larvae unless you have a lot of speed bonus/ice staff and you don't get a lot of free hits too like here
cool strat now wilson can deafeat wilson fly with wilson flys babies:
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