So sad about the loss of life. Still so many people talk about electrical work as being Easy and not requiring experts. I was working on outside lights on a property and the guy next door told my customer in front of me he could have done the job cheaper. He said “ this electrical lark is easy! He told my customer of all the electrical work he was doing on his own house. he told us had done a few days of training . Goodness knows what training that was. He told me that I was earning easy money. After nearly 40 years in the field I wasn’t exactly impressed.
I've just ripped out a load of death trap wiring in an outhouse. Installed by my customer's late husband. She had a socket that was tripping the power in the outhouse. Not surprised, there's bits of everything out there. Putting all new conduit wiring in, gonna look pukka.
LOL! stupid man doing that in front of an electrician (even if he did know what he was doing, there is no way for you to verify it). But with that said, the attitude some electricians have, is also ridiculous - at least where I live, in Sweden. Most of them who see them self as experts don't know how to build a switching LED-driver or DC/DC-converter - but they think putting up a new wall outlet is "rocket science". This is pobably because of our stupid laws that you are not allowed to do almost anything on the fixed installations here (except change a broken wall outlet or lamp switch that's already in place, to a similar one, then you can make your own extension cords and things like that). You basically can't get certified here either, unless you take a several years apprenticeship on an electrical company first. Despite that, I read somewhere that upwards of 50% of home owners had done some kind of electrical work they are not allowed to anyway (the risk of getting caught i close to zero - which of course make a lot of our electricians frustrated). Then it's of course unavoidible that some really bad DIYers do work as well. But electrical fires have in fact gone down here, while DIY work have not (it even seem to be more now than some decades ago). It was probably worse like 30 year ago when it was hard to get electrical installation material. It wasn't available in hardware stores and this was before buying stuff over the internet was a thing - the electrical companies ordered it from their own suppliers by post, telephone or fax, haha. This means even if you know how to do it properly, you were forced to use improvised solutions anyway. Like using speaker wire or cables meant for use in cars (12 V system) and a juction box could be made from something like an ice cream bucket. New wall outlets could be made from a branch outlet where the plug is cut off and connected to a juction box. It was also common to connect wires by just twisting and cover with electrical tape as connectors could be hard to find. People where proablably also more plain stupid back then. We used screw in fuses (diazed) before circuit breakers were a common thing and some idiots overloaded the circuit, then got annoyed by having to replace the fuse "all the time" - so they replaced it with a nail...
I remember when I was working at Newcastle central station where I uncovered a priceless tiled wall where the centurion pub is now and had been restored at the time of discovery
The nearest I came to an electrical fire was the flex into my laptop power supply. Mid cable, a flame 100mm long suddenly shot out right in front of me! Luckily it went upwards instead of burning a hole in a very expensive rug, & I was there to deal with it. I opened up the cable & found the brown conductor copper to be heavily corroded. Clearly a manufacturing defect due to some kind of corrosive contamination of the copper or pvc, and not mechanical wear & tear. Original HP power supply too so not dodgy fake flex. I've been even more careful to turn things off at the socket when not needed.
Why don't energy suppliers offer a WiFi or ethernet comms module to domestic customers? They'd never go out of date & work as long as there's an internet connection available. Lots of different comms modules are available it appears from a quick internet search for commercial & industrial use
I've been thinking the same, with plenty of din rail ethernet/wifi energy monitors with CTs why would I need the smart meter? In fact I could set it up to capture by the minute and report readings as and when I please. Smart meters are for the benefit of supplier not consumers. Once they have enough data and understand usage precisly they will tweak the tariffs to shaft us even further. I think there was a dispute with some supplier companies being forced to disable functionality that could remotely turn off the meters.
@@Dr.Stacker Yep 100% correct. As I advised my parents to hold off on smart meters for as long as possible... How can a smart meter save you money? Oh... it's when the energy network runs out of power due to eV's / heat pumps, prices can fluctuate on a minute by minute level.
The rollout of SMART meters continues to be a shambles. Dieter Helm is absolutely correct. The choice of suppliers as opposed to network operators as the agents with responsibility for rollout was a bizarre decision which, as far as I am aware, is unique to the UK. Spain, where I have some knowledge, used network operators and uses the supply network to send meter readings from meters to the local transformer (similar to Powerline in a domestic installation) and from there via fixed lines/microwave to central data collection hubs. National rollout was achieved in under 2 years.
Ditto for France, which uses the same approach. (Does Spain also use „Linky“ meters?) I think we can both agree: The Spanish and French got it right. And as usual, the UK got it *Totally fc🇬🇧in' wrong* as always... My question now: Which approach did *Germany* settle on?... 🇩🇪📠😉
I think most of the smart meters in the south that use the mobile network are using gsm (2+3g) which is being shut down over the next few years, this is going to cause problems for all things such as alarms (burglar and fire), fall alarms, door intercoms and many other systems. The smart meter roll out was floored from conception as most installers were only qualified by doing an 8 hour course from a plethora of providers.
And my energy provider wonders why I persistently refuse any installation of a „smart“ meter? At least my existing *smarter* meter works, records my energy usage in a measure I understand (kWh), is CE-marked and EU certified so it's considerably safer than any piece of UKCA-labelled Brexit¹💩, and doesn't have a cut-off contactor that can be remotely operated by any Skript Kiddie who can boot Linux in Runlevel 3. 🔓 And from what I understand of „smart“ meter _installations_ I get the impression that *I* (A DIYer with nothing above a long-expired PAT qualification) could effect a safer (If not longer in duration) smart meter installation than many of the allegedly „qualified“ installers the energy providers are using... 🔥 Yeah, the French got it right. And as usual, the UK got it *Totally fc🇬🇧in' wrong* as always... 🤔 (¹ - One of my mates has recently had his pre-pay gas meter replaced with a „smart“ type - Useful in his case as he's housebound and can't reach the meter. The new meter has a UKCA mark, and bears at least two symbols which I recognise as meaning „Explosive equipment“... 🎛🇬🇧💥)
Running electrical meters through a mobile phone network is pure nuts, electrical installs last for many many years, whereas phone standards are changing all the time
I read it as he had wired the extension lead flex directly into a socket, thereby cutting out the 13a fuse that would be in plug top. Can't do that in the regs!
@@UnimportantAcc If I'm not mistaken, the regs also prohibit me from replacing my own outlets and doing other accessory changeovers of that ilk - Hopefully open to exemption in some regards, given I recently replaced an imploded light switch for a neighbour that was clearly *not* in a safe condition to be left as it was. Whatever happened to the days when *I* had control and accountability for everything south of my CU? 🤔 I mean; It's called a _Consumer unit_ for a *reason...* 📜
@@dieseldragon6756 actually as long as you're "competent" you can do as you likey mate! Self-certify is what leads to all these cock-ups in the first place 🤣
They need to break down that * 1000s of fires* figure a bit. What was the cause? Faulty chinese appliances? users fitting their own plugs badly? Some bad DIY modifications to the fixed wiring system? Just saying * electrical fires* isn't helping .
I agree. Could have been a duff charger or bad LiPo cell. SOme DIY jobs by DIY'ers are in some cases better than what "qualified" sparkies have done. Seen plenty in my life.
The present cost of living crisis and the constant drive to get things at the lowest possible prices *does* suggest a lot of cheap, non-CE compliant equipment could be causing many of those fires... 🔥 (Personally, I _insist_ on CE marking because the EU are very strict on its enforcement. There's nowhere near enough history covering the UKCA mark to ascertain whether UK agencies are enforcing the use of this in the way that they should. I have seen videos with non-CE and non-UL mains appliances with UKCA marks visible on them...)
Here's one for you then. A gas trainer (youpube) was banging on about DIY work causing dozens of domestic carbon monoxide deaths per year. In reality when you dig into it, and subtract the people who actually die in caravans, sheds, garages and tents for running flueless appliances with no ventilation, the people who are killed by faulty, professionally installed appliances, the people who deliberately commit suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning, then the actual number killed by DIY work becomes less than the number of people killed by falling out of bed every year!
Could also be non-dodgy, big name appliances. The initial kitchen fire at Grenfell tower was caused by a standards compliant Hotpoint fridge freezer. There was some talk around that time about improving the fire safety standards for appliances but I don't remember hearing about anything ever actually happening. How do we know what the actual problem areas are with such broad categories... I've a relative in the fire service and cannabis farms are notorious for catching fire - the meter is typically bypassed with motorbike chain, the door handles are wired to the mains to protect the farmers from police raids and the wiring of heaters, lights and the other drug growing accessories is done with any random wires the farmers get their hands on. That's going to fall into the category of diy electrics in a domestic building - and yet throwing the book at every sensible homeowner for changing their own ceiling rose isn't going to do anything about it - it's an illegal drug production problem that's getting worse because illegal drug production is getting increasingly common.
@@joinedupjon And the worst aspect of that is that they're treating the _law abiding consumer_ like a criminal if - For one reason or another (And this includes reasons connected to disability as well) - They're unable to have a smartmeter installed. If you can't have one, your electricity rates skyrocket to the point you genuinely cannot afford to use the heating or use other essential appliances, and that's a *very* dangerous scenario in gas-less homes built only for Economy-7! 🥶 I find myself in this very situation, and of course the industry „regulator“ is about as much use as a Class 153 in the rush hour... 🤔
Interesting that in the UK most electrical fires are caused by faulty electrical installations. Here in Germany they are mostly caused by misuse of electrical appliances, like covered up ventilation openings, power strips hidden behind cupboards and covered in layers of dust, dirt or both, to name a few examples. The wiring itself usually does not cause issues, even if decades old.
Had to do some maintenance work In an old 3bed static caravan, out of the 3 bedrooms only one had a single socket and instead of getting an electrician to put some in the other rooms, someone had run a double socket extension off the single socket into the next bedroom and then from that extension to a single socket…..
Why is it electricians are always finding hidden items of value? An electrician found Jack the Ripper's Diary in Battlecrease House, under the floorboards, Aigburth, Liverpool.
As a DIYer who watches your content and reads and learns how to do things ‘properly’ (what ever that means 😁). You can have all the standards and no no’s for playing with electrics. Anyone who wires an extension lead into a socket and has live wires on ‘completed work’ is not going to follow regulations. Unless you ban extension leads you will not stop this type of problem sadly
I'm going to get loads of haters here but here goes ............. That is there the problem. Electrical work is not for the DIYer, aside from changing a lamp. It is for competent electricians who have received the necessary training and attained the skills and qualifications required., together with a sound working knowledge of the electrical regulations. Banning extension leads won't stop this kind of terrible tragedy!
Another DIYer here, there is a difference between a competent diyer with electrical knowledge (read the relevant regs) and correct test equipment who takes advice from electrician and gets an eicr on completion, and wiring an extension lead into a socket? I think using " DIY Wiring " title is misleading and should be changed.
@@JamesEdwards860no but they still require a MWC and a schedule of test results, correct me if I’m wrong (not a sparky by the way) but I do no if I touch something and it goes wrong I’m not insured
@@efixx Sorry for the late reply, thank you for letting me know that I have won. have you got any instructions for claiming the prize, which link in the show notes should i be clicking :P
Very sad loss of life, but I wish you would not describe these wiring modifications as DIY electrical work. It was illegal wiring modifications. Nothing wrong with DIY electrical work if permitted and in accordance with the regulations.
Agreed. I see plenty of good quality DIY work (admittedly often by people of the generation that were brought up with this more) but yeah - you shouldn't tar it.
Strange fact is that the more regulations and restrictions on what people can do, the more common bad wiring becomes. Perhaps start tackling the problem from here.
The smart meter roll out has been a joke. I've had two new smart boxes fitted to mine and still nothing on my app. Why didn't they just listen to everybody? Do proper consultation with all people involved? We could have had isolators fitted as standard. All meters on the same network. Not this North South divide. Its a mess.
I thought they RCBOs or RCDs or do they have to be AFDDs to protect you against fire could somebody tell me what happened please how there protection did not work if all the fire alarms went off how did they not get out the house
What probably happened is they wired a cheap extension cable in with 1mm cable or similar and then overloaded it. Because the socket ring will likely rated at 32amp the cable would likely burn before tripping anything at the board .
At 6m30seconds you mentioned ingress protection do you mean IP which stands for International Protection? Answers on a postcard to the script writer. Lol
It is North of England though... 🤔 Joking apart, sorry for any offense caused, we'll suspend biscuit privileges for whichever scriptwriter never leaves London. 😬😂
@@UKsystems Being a qualified electrician is one thing, and knowingly lashing together something dangerous is another. I sympathise with the man, though, since the council make it as difficult as they can for you to get electrical work done by a professional in their properties.
@UKsystems with the correct skills, experience and equipment a competent person can do and fully test electrical work just as a qualified inexperienced unskilled person can make a hash of a job just. The qualified electrician who wired the my garage radial and one end of the kitchen ring main into the same mcb and the other end of the ring main into the garage MCB, let's say he wasn't called back to fix his qualified poor fully tested work a competent person with years of industrial experience soon found the fault and corrected it.
The God created humans in a DIY job, rather than paying a human-creating-professional to do it, that's why our humans are so defective, physically and mentally, mostl of us live less than a century and die with all kinds of horrible disease in misery. Lesson needs to be learnt!!
I feel like you should be able to improve your council house, or any rental flat, within reason (by hiring an electrician). But this isn't even allowed? The council obviously didn't provide enough sockets, so people improvised, what other result were they expecting?
Quite simply adding sockets is not as simple as it seems if they are not enough in the building the building is not designed to have many more added and it would probably be recommended to rewire it. This is very very expensive and the council will not do it to that, but they will not allow it to be done by an electrician because some are very bad.
Glasgow is in North England? You learn something new every day.
Script writer lives in London, he thinks it is! 🤫
This is correct but what do I know, I'm only a guy from Wales, West England.
@@djoakeydoakey1076far west England 😂
Glasgow is in England. It’s moved since I was there on Friday.
If Glasgow is north England, then Belfast must the northwest England
So sad about the loss of life. Still so many people talk about electrical work as being Easy and not requiring experts. I was working on outside lights on a property and the guy next door told my customer in front of me he could have done the job cheaper. He said “ this electrical lark is easy! He told my customer of all the electrical work he was doing on his own house. he told us had done a few days of training . Goodness knows what training that was. He told me that I was earning easy money. After nearly 40 years in the field I wasn’t exactly impressed.
I've just ripped out a load of death trap wiring in an outhouse. Installed by my customer's late husband. She had a socket that was tripping the power in the outhouse. Not surprised, there's bits of everything out there. Putting all new conduit wiring in, gonna look pukka.
LOL! stupid man doing that in front of an electrician (even if he did know what he was doing, there is no way for you to verify it). But with that said, the attitude some electricians have, is also ridiculous
- at least where I live, in Sweden. Most of them who see them self as experts don't know how to build a switching LED-driver or DC/DC-converter - but they think putting up a new wall outlet is "rocket science".
This is pobably because of our stupid laws that you are not allowed to do almost anything on the fixed installations here (except change a broken wall outlet or lamp switch that's already in place, to a similar one, then you can make your own extension cords and things like that).
You basically can't get certified here either, unless you take a several years apprenticeship on an electrical company first. Despite that, I read somewhere that upwards of 50% of home owners had done some kind of electrical work they are not allowed to anyway (the risk of getting caught i close to zero - which of course make a lot of our electricians frustrated). Then it's of course unavoidible that some really bad DIYers do work as well.
But electrical fires have in fact gone down here, while DIY work have not (it even seem to be more now than some decades ago). It was probably worse like 30 year ago when it was hard to get electrical installation material. It wasn't available in hardware stores and this was before buying stuff over the internet was a thing - the electrical companies ordered it from their own suppliers by post, telephone or fax, haha.
This means even if you know how to do it properly, you were forced to use improvised solutions anyway. Like using speaker wire or cables meant for use in cars (12 V system) and a juction box could be made from something like an ice cream bucket. New wall outlets could be made from a branch outlet where the plug is cut off and connected to a juction box. It was also common to connect wires by just twisting and cover with electrical tape as connectors could be hard to find.
People where proablably also more plain stupid back then. We used screw in fuses (diazed) before circuit breakers were a common thing and some idiots overloaded the circuit, then got annoyed by having to replace the fuse "all the time" - so they replaced it with a nail...
I remember when I was working at Newcastle central station where I uncovered a priceless tiled wall where the centurion pub is now and had been restored at the time of discovery
The nearest I came to an electrical fire was the flex into my laptop power supply. Mid cable, a flame 100mm long suddenly shot out right in front of me! Luckily it went upwards instead of burning a hole in a very expensive rug, & I was there to deal with it.
I opened up the cable & found the brown conductor copper to be heavily corroded. Clearly a manufacturing defect due to some kind of corrosive contamination of the copper or pvc, and not mechanical wear & tear. Original HP power supply too so not dodgy fake flex. I've been even more careful to turn things off at the socket when not needed.
Why don't energy suppliers offer a WiFi or ethernet comms module to domestic customers? They'd never go out of date & work as long as there's an internet connection available. Lots of different comms modules are available it appears from a quick internet search for commercial & industrial use
Why do something logical? We are British. We take the illogical path.....
I've been thinking the same, with plenty of din rail ethernet/wifi energy monitors with CTs why would I need the smart meter? In fact I could set it up to capture by the minute and report readings as and when I please. Smart meters are for the benefit of supplier not consumers. Once they have enough data and understand usage precisly they will tweak the tariffs to shaft us even further. I think there was a dispute with some supplier companies being forced to disable functionality that could remotely turn off the meters.
@@Dr.Stacker Yep 100% correct. As I advised my parents to hold off on smart meters for as long as possible... How can a smart meter save you money? Oh... it's when the energy network runs out of power due to eV's / heat pumps, prices can fluctuate on a minute by minute level.
The rollout of SMART meters continues to be a shambles. Dieter Helm is absolutely correct. The choice of suppliers as opposed to network operators as the agents with responsibility for rollout was a bizarre decision which, as far as I am aware, is unique to the UK. Spain, where I have some knowledge, used network operators and uses the supply network to send meter readings from meters to the local transformer (similar to Powerline in a domestic installation) and from there via fixed lines/microwave to central data collection hubs. National rollout was achieved in under 2 years.
Ditto for France, which uses the same approach. (Does Spain also use „Linky“ meters?)
I think we can both agree: The Spanish and French got it right. And as usual, the UK got it *Totally fc🇬🇧in' wrong* as always...
My question now: Which approach did *Germany* settle on?... 🇩🇪📠😉
I think most of the smart meters in the south that use the mobile network are using gsm (2+3g) which is being shut down over the next few years, this is going to cause problems for all things such as alarms (burglar and fire), fall alarms, door intercoms and many other systems.
The smart meter roll out was floored from conception as most installers were only qualified by doing an 8 hour course from a plethora of providers.
And my energy provider wonders why I persistently refuse any installation of a „smart“ meter? At least my existing *smarter* meter works, records my energy usage in a measure I understand (kWh), is CE-marked and EU certified so it's considerably safer than any piece of UKCA-labelled Brexit¹💩, and doesn't have a cut-off contactor that can be remotely operated by any Skript Kiddie who can boot Linux in Runlevel 3. 🔓
And from what I understand of „smart“ meter _installations_ I get the impression that *I* (A DIYer with nothing above a long-expired PAT qualification) could effect a safer (If not longer in duration) smart meter installation than many of the allegedly „qualified“ installers the energy providers are using... 🔥
Yeah, the French got it right. And as usual, the UK got it *Totally fc🇬🇧in' wrong* as always... 🤔
(¹ - One of my mates has recently had his pre-pay gas meter replaced with a „smart“ type - Useful in his case as he's housebound and can't reach the meter. The new meter has a UKCA mark, and bears at least two symbols which I recognise as meaning „Explosive equipment“... 🎛🇬🇧💥)
Running electrical meters through a mobile phone network is pure nuts, electrical installs last for many many years, whereas phone standards are changing all the time
OMG does this mean that the iet are going to do a course on extension leads , and make us register to install them
Obviously 🙄
I read it as he had wired the extension lead flex directly into a socket, thereby cutting out the 13a fuse that would be in plug top.
Can't do that in the regs!
@@UnimportantAcc If I'm not mistaken, the regs also prohibit me from replacing my own outlets and doing other accessory changeovers of that ilk - Hopefully open to exemption in some regards, given I recently replaced an imploded light switch for a neighbour that was clearly *not* in a safe condition to be left as it was. Whatever happened to the days when *I* had control and accountability for everything south of my CU? 🤔
I mean; It's called a _Consumer unit_ for a *reason...* 📜
@@dieseldragon6756 actually as long as you're "competent" you can do as you likey mate! Self-certify is what leads to all these cock-ups in the first place 🤣
@@UnimportantAcc opps i was taking the pxxx out of the IET
They need to break down that * 1000s of fires* figure a bit. What was the cause? Faulty chinese appliances? users fitting their own plugs badly? Some bad DIY modifications to the fixed wiring system? Just saying * electrical fires* isn't helping .
I agree. Could have been a duff charger or bad LiPo cell. SOme DIY jobs by DIY'ers are in some cases better than what "qualified" sparkies have done. Seen plenty in my life.
The present cost of living crisis and the constant drive to get things at the lowest possible prices *does* suggest a lot of cheap, non-CE compliant equipment could be causing many of those fires... 🔥
(Personally, I _insist_ on CE marking because the EU are very strict on its enforcement. There's nowhere near enough history covering the UKCA mark to ascertain whether UK agencies are enforcing the use of this in the way that they should. I have seen videos with non-CE and non-UL mains appliances with UKCA marks visible on them...)
Here's one for you then. A gas trainer (youpube) was banging on about DIY work causing dozens of domestic carbon monoxide deaths per year. In reality when you dig into it, and subtract the people who actually die in caravans, sheds, garages and tents for running flueless appliances with no ventilation, the people who are killed by faulty, professionally installed appliances, the people who deliberately commit suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning, then the actual number killed by DIY work becomes less than the number of people killed by falling out of bed every year!
Could also be non-dodgy, big name appliances. The initial kitchen fire at Grenfell tower was caused by a standards compliant Hotpoint fridge freezer. There was some talk around that time about improving the fire safety standards for appliances but I don't remember hearing about anything ever actually happening.
How do we know what the actual problem areas are with such broad categories... I've a relative in the fire service and cannabis farms are notorious for catching fire - the meter is typically bypassed with motorbike chain, the door handles are wired to the mains to protect the farmers from police raids and the wiring of heaters, lights and the other drug growing accessories is done with any random wires the farmers get their hands on. That's going to fall into the category of diy electrics in a domestic building - and yet throwing the book at every sensible homeowner for changing their own ceiling rose isn't going to do anything about it - it's an illegal drug production problem that's getting worse because illegal drug production is getting increasingly common.
@@joinedupjon And the worst aspect of that is that they're treating the _law abiding consumer_ like a criminal if - For one reason or another (And this includes reasons connected to disability as well) - They're unable to have a smartmeter installed. If you can't have one, your electricity rates skyrocket to the point you genuinely cannot afford to use the heating or use other essential appliances, and that's a *very* dangerous scenario in gas-less homes built only for Economy-7! 🥶
I find myself in this very situation, and of course the industry „regulator“ is about as much use as a Class 153 in the rush hour... 🤔
Interesting that in the UK most electrical fires are caused by faulty electrical installations. Here in Germany they are mostly caused by misuse of electrical appliances, like covered up ventilation openings, power strips hidden behind cupboards and covered in layers of dust, dirt or both, to name a few examples. The wiring itself usually does not cause issues, even if decades old.
I would argue wiring an extension lead Into a socket is a misuse of an electric appliance.
@ That is actually both. Misuse of appliance and messing with the electrical installation.
Had to do some maintenance work In an old 3bed static caravan, out of the 3 bedrooms only one had a single socket and instead of getting an electrician to put some in the other rooms, someone had run a double socket extension off the single socket into the next bedroom and then from that extension to a single socket…..
Why is it electricians are always finding hidden items of value? An electrician found Jack the Ripper's Diary in Battlecrease House, under the floorboards, Aigburth, Liverpool.
Great news weekly as always Joe. 👍
As a DIYer who watches your content and reads and learns how to do things ‘properly’ (what ever that means 😁). You can have all the standards and no no’s for playing with electrics. Anyone who wires an extension lead into a socket and has live wires on ‘completed work’ is not going to follow regulations.
Unless you ban extension leads you will not stop this type of problem sadly
You can’t follow the regulations doing it DIY because of the level of inspection and testing required as well as a notification
I'm going to get loads of haters here but here goes .............
That is there the problem.
Electrical work is not for the DIYer, aside from changing a lamp.
It is for competent electricians who have received the necessary training and attained the skills and qualifications required., together with a sound working knowledge of the electrical regulations.
Banning extension leads won't stop this kind of terrible tragedy!
Another DIYer here, there is a difference between a competent diyer with electrical knowledge (read the relevant regs) and correct test equipment who takes advice from electrician and gets an eicr on completion, and wiring an extension lead into a socket? I think using " DIY Wiring " title is misleading and should be changed.
@@UKsystemsvast majority of electrical wiring and alternations do not require any notification, as you well know.
@@JamesEdwards860no but they still require a MWC and a schedule of test results, correct me if I’m wrong (not a sparky by the way) but I do no if I touch something and it goes wrong I’m not insured
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I like a IP66 floodlight - it needed this far north. A smart meter would be nice as the RTS is due to be switched off next year.
Pomeranian and Cherubs
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@@efixx Sorry for the late reply, thank you for letting me know that I have won. have you got any instructions for claiming the prize, which link in the show notes should i be clicking :P
Very sad loss of life, but I wish you would not describe these wiring modifications as DIY electrical work. It was illegal wiring modifications. Nothing wrong with DIY electrical work if permitted and in accordance with the regulations.
Agreed. It's not "DIY electrical work". Just a total utter bodge
Agreed. I see plenty of good quality DIY work (admittedly often by people of the generation that were brought up with this more) but yeah - you shouldn't tar it.
Strange fact is that the more regulations and restrictions on what people can do, the more common bad wiring becomes. Perhaps start tackling the problem from here.
The smart meter roll out has been a joke. I've had two new smart boxes fitted to mine and still nothing on my app. Why didn't they just listen to everybody? Do proper consultation with all people involved? We could have had isolators fitted as standard. All meters on the same network. Not this North South divide. Its a mess.
I thought they RCBOs or RCDs or do they have to be AFDDs to protect you against fire could somebody tell me what happened please how there protection did not work if all the fire alarms went off how did they not get out the house
Many things that cannot be answered the protective device will not operate in some failure mode
What probably happened is they wired a cheap extension cable in with 1mm cable or similar and then overloaded it. Because the socket ring will likely rated at 32amp the cable would likely burn before tripping anything at the board .
At 6m30seconds you mentioned ingress protection do you mean IP which stands for International Protection? Answers on a postcard to the script writer. Lol
…. Not sure if you’re joking. IP as in IP6X etc is Ingress Protection. Nothing do with international.
@JasperJanssen are you certain of that?
@@sergiofernandez3725 yes. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
@@sergiofernandez3725 It's both! 🤷
Are you sure it doesn't refer to _Internet Protocol_ (For what kinds of „smart“ tech can be installed in it) 🙃
How about Pomeranian and Brawn?
Glasgow is not in the "North of England", for fucks sake.
It is North of England though... 🤔 Joking apart, sorry for any offense caused, we'll suspend biscuit privileges for whichever scriptwriter never leaves London. 😬😂
@@efixx Is London still in South Scotland?
@@efixx To be fair Joe, you did say a doctor 'from' Glasgow, not 'in' Glasgow. Technically . . . . . you win 🙂
Scotland is just extended England
Scotland is just North England where they speak a bit funny
Pomeranian and shabby.....
Nice guesses, make sure you're listening to next week's show to see if you're right! 😃
Sadly, incidents like this will lead to even further crackdowns on safe DIY works from competent homeowners.
That’s competent cannot happen unless you are qualified they do not go together in electrics. Also you cannot test your DIY installation properly.
@@UKsystems Being a qualified electrician is one thing, and knowingly lashing together something dangerous is another. I sympathise with the man, though, since the council make it as difficult as they can for you to get electrical work done by a professional in their properties.
@@jamescollins6085 a council house it to live in not renovate
@UKsystems with the correct skills, experience and equipment a competent person can do and fully test electrical work just as a qualified inexperienced unskilled person can make a hash of a job just.
The qualified electrician who wired the my garage radial and one end of the kitchen ring main into the same mcb and the other end of the ring main into the garage MCB, let's say he wasn't called back to fix his qualified poor fully tested work a competent person with years of industrial experience soon found the fault and corrected it.
@@ItsAllJustBolloxI had the same experience from a so called “competent persons red badge scheme” was absolute disgrace
Pomeranian and boy scouts
Great guesses Mark, tune in to next Monday's show to see if you're right. 😃
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Cherubs and pomeranian
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pomeranian and boy scouts 🙏🙏🙏
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No idea really.
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The God created humans in a DIY job, rather than paying a human-creating-professional to do it, that's why our humans are so defective, physically and mentally, mostl of us live less than a century and die with all kinds of horrible disease in misery.
Lesson needs to be learnt!!
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Hi Guys I have sent back the info for the free prize can you confirm you have it? thx
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I feel like you should be able to improve your council house, or any rental flat, within reason (by hiring an electrician). But this isn't even allowed? The council obviously didn't provide enough sockets, so people improvised, what other result were they expecting?
Quite simply adding sockets is not as simple as it seems if they are not enough in the building the building is not designed to have many more added and it would probably be recommended to rewire it. This is very very expensive and the council will not do it to that, but they will not allow it to be done by an electrician because some are very bad.
@@UKsystems I'm sorry but what?
@@mrSolar852 sounds like a child talking.
@@mrSolar852 what part of old buildings are meant for less sockets is hard to understand the wiring is not meant for more
@@UKsystems It reads like you are using a translation tool, your grammar makes almost no sense
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sooo secret word of the video is blatantly pomoranian
Can someone please respond to my email
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