Good video. I would have cut-in a flashing under the exposed lower edge of the T1-11 before starting the ledger and then ran it over top of the ledger stone.
I am about 3/4 of the way through a project and had similar results (all good). I had to call customer service a couple of times and was treated well despite my many questions. One tip.... I am applying the stone over both wood and concrete and needed both nails and construction adhesive. I am using more of both than expected. Since the nails (16 ga 2-1/2" stainless colated) are a special order from my suplier (Home Depot), order more than you need and return the extra.
Good video but something is fishy. I can’t find any info on “Forge Construction”. And you’ve only done one video since posting this on 9 December? I want to believe this is “a real consumer review” but the only Eric Smith I can find runs a full service media marketing company. Am I missing something?
Good catch! I agree this seems fishy. I liked the video but funny how they didn't install it correctly - I agree with the posts that water is going to get in behind the rainscreen since no flashing was cut in.
I should update. I ended up buying the product. It worked great. This guy may or may not be a paid salesman. I’m not. I would use these stones again in a future project without a question.
Interesting. Do you fill in the screw holes for the ledgers or sills? Any idea on the price per box and how many square feet it covers? I went to their website and nothing is really stated. They go through dealers. Found out there's a dealer about 20 minutes from me.
Good question! I did a 70/30 split...70% Morning Aspen and 30% Kodiak Mine...FYI, its been 3years since install and I could NOT be happier. It looks 100% just like the day installed and has held up perfectly. I'd buy/install this again in a heartbeat!
I also wonder if you could apply this product on a concrete wall with a type of construction adhesive. It seems doable but their website doesn't say. Maybe when you do more jobs with it, you can inquire about it. Can't wait to see your video on your next job.
Guess I should've done more research before I asked you. Got my other answer for concrete wall from Evolve Stone video. th-cam.com/video/qWteZ0_6TT0/w-d-xo.html
@@orion3267 there is other videos on TH-cam on this product and they show how to use with concrete and yes you do use a adhesive and you only run the adhesive vertically on the stone
I have spoken with Evolve Stone about that and YES, you can use construction adhesve to adhere to concrete. REMEMBER though, make ALL adhesive caulking line VERTICAL to allow for any possible water intrusion to drop down and out. If you make horizontal lines of calk, you may introduce the possibility of water retention.
@@Commercialvoice TREMGrip adhesive and Vulkem 171 Primer are the only products worth using with this composite stone. That's also what they recommend. Prime the wall and the stone, a little bit at a time, so it goes up while it's still tacky. Maintain a "wet line"
I recently purchased this product and have not installed it yet. I’m laying it over my concrete foundation but having difficulty finding any videos of the process anywhere including Evolve Stones website which Is odd. To me me this guy is obviously way overselling this stuff only because he is showing a sample box he received but already purchased the product. Probably a paid marketer or Evolve employee. I just don’t understand why Evolve does not have any videos on concrete installation. What I also found troubling is the fact that in their instructions provided they recommend using an adhesive that is nearly impossible to find anywhere from a homeowners standpoint. I emailed their customer service for an alternate adhesive to the one recommended and once again they refer to me to a product that is not readily available to the common homeowner and nowhere to be found in any home center (Depot or Lowe’s). I will have to now waste more time and researching my own. Update to follow.
Its +- $14 a square foot. That's about the same or a little less than any other faux alternative and FAAAAAR less than real stone. The BIG savings come with the advantage of a one man install while allowing for unlimited variations on color and size/shape of wall since you are apply each stone at a time vs a 3x5 sheet.
I'm very curious as to how much this Forge guy is getting paid to market this stuff. No other videos from him or zero follow-up to comments/questions from others here
It does not. Just make sure the wrap layer is tight. The grooves being vertical in the T-1-11 will allow any water to drain down. By using the recommended underlayment, the house wrap keeps most moisture off of the wall and the DRIP layer (see 14:48) allows any water to just drip down and not get caught between the faux brick and the house wrap. No caulking needed!
I disagree the owner of this barn will suffer from long term water damage issues. The tyvek and drip barrier were not installed correctly in this video. The t11 siding should have been cut and the tyvek shoved up under the t11 and a piece of flashing should have been placed over the top brick to prevent waiter from getting behind the stone
So this video classifies as a classic deceptive sponsored video advertisement. TLDR: this was probably close to $5,000 in fake stone for 300 sqft. I'll report it but it won't make a difference. Don't bother and buy this product unless money means nothing to you.
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Thank you for making this video. Great job
Thank YOU for the kind feedback!
Good video. I would have cut-in a flashing under the exposed lower edge of the T1-11 before starting the ledger and then ran it over top of the ledger stone.
I am about 3/4 of the way through a project and had similar results (all good). I had to call customer service a couple of times and was treated well despite my many questions. One tip.... I am applying the stone over both wood and concrete and needed both nails and construction adhesive. I am using more of both than expected. Since the nails (16 ga 2-1/2" stainless colated) are a special order from my suplier (Home Depot), order more than you need and return the extra.
Excellent video!!
Great video. I just bought 300 sq for my house.
Good video but something is fishy. I can’t find any info on “Forge Construction”. And you’ve only done one video since posting this on 9 December? I want to believe this is “a real consumer review” but the only Eric Smith I can find runs a full service media marketing company. Am I missing something?
I've determined the same scenario as you. Something is not right with this. Marketing for sure IMHO.
Good catch! I agree this seems fishy. I liked the video but funny how they didn't install it correctly - I agree with the posts that water is going to get in behind the rainscreen since no flashing was cut in.
I should update. I ended up buying the product. It worked great. This guy may or may not be a paid salesman. I’m not. I would use these stones again in a future project without a question.
He talks like he runs a full service media marketing company for sure
How much did all the materials cost
What was the total cost at time of making this video?
Interesting. Do you fill in the screw holes for the ledgers or sills? Any idea on the price per box and how many square feet it covers? I went to their website and nothing is really stated. They go through dealers. Found out there's a dealer about 20 minutes from me.
NVM. Each box contains 14.25 sq ft.
14.25 sq feet per box and around 245.00 per box.
Home Depot sells it
@@Dragnslar2 $245 for 15sqft seems kinda crazy but yeah thats what home depot shows.
What type of saw blades did you use? Will a wood blade in a chop saw work? Or do I need a masonry blade?
By the way any tile blade works.
@@Dragnslar2they say a wood blade should work
Bit of an older post but...WHERE did you PURCHASE your DOORS? Thanking you in advance.
The garage doors are from Home Depot, the iron door set I got from Wholesale Iron Doors in Dallas Tx...
What 2 colors did you combine?
I used a 70/30 split of KODIAK MINE (70%) and ASPEN SHADOW (30%)
Keep in mind this is around $15 sf. So not exactly cheap! A 300 sf area is $4500 Ouch
Even a single wall 100sf will run you 1500 bucks
What product color is that? Or is it a blend of two different colors.
Good question! I did a 70/30 split...70% Morning Aspen and 30% Kodiak Mine...FYI, its been 3years since install and I could NOT be happier. It looks 100% just like the day installed and has held up perfectly. I'd buy/install this again in a heartbeat!
Evolve Stone is not easy to "break" you have to cut with a saw and then try to make the ends the way you want them. It is not easy.
I also wonder if you could apply this product on a concrete wall with a type of construction adhesive. It seems doable but their website doesn't say. Maybe when you do more jobs with it, you can inquire about it. Can't wait to see your video on your next job.
Guess I should've done more research before I asked you. Got my other answer for concrete wall from Evolve Stone video. th-cam.com/video/qWteZ0_6TT0/w-d-xo.html
@@orion3267 there is other videos on TH-cam on this product and they show how to use with concrete and yes you do use a adhesive and you only run the adhesive vertically on the stone
I have spoken with Evolve Stone about that and YES, you can use construction adhesve to adhere to concrete. REMEMBER though, make ALL adhesive caulking line VERTICAL to allow for any possible water intrusion to drop down and out. If you make horizontal lines of calk, you may introduce the possibility of water retention.
@@Commercialvoice TREMGrip adhesive and Vulkem 171 Primer are the only products worth using with this composite stone. That's also what they recommend. Prime the wall and the stone, a little bit at a time, so it goes up while it's still tacky. Maintain a "wet line"
I recently purchased this product and have not installed it yet. I’m laying it over my concrete foundation but having difficulty finding any videos of the process anywhere including Evolve Stones website which Is odd. To me me this guy is obviously way overselling this stuff only because he is showing a sample box he received but already purchased the product. Probably a paid marketer or Evolve employee. I just don’t understand why Evolve does not have any videos on concrete installation. What I also found troubling is the fact that in their instructions provided they recommend using an adhesive that is nearly impossible to find anywhere from a homeowners standpoint. I emailed their customer service for an alternate adhesive to the one recommended and once again they refer to me to a product that is not readily available to the common homeowner and nowhere to be found in any home center (Depot or Lowe’s). I will have to now waste more time and researching my own. Update to follow.
Also, they have great customer service- just give them a call!
Check out Perkins Bros doing it over foundation: th-cam.com/video/on85WYjSWhI/w-d-xo.html skip to 6:45
how much a sqft??
Its +- $14 a square foot. That's about the same or a little less than any other faux alternative and FAAAAAR less than real stone. The BIG savings come with the advantage of a one man install while allowing for unlimited variations on color and size/shape of wall since you are apply each stone at a time vs a 3x5 sheet.
I'm very curious as to how much this Forge guy is getting paid to market this stuff. No other videos from him or zero follow-up to comments/questions from others here
He is a manger at Evolve stone
Did you use all the same color. It looks like you used at least 2 of the colors.
Yes!! Glad you noticed! I used two colors to give the wall some depth. I used a 70/30 split of KODIAK MINE (70%) and ASPEN SHADOW (30%)
@@Commercialvoice looks great! My wife and I are looking to use some on some upcoming projects. Appreciate the video.
Does the ledger stone need to be caulked to keep water from getting behind the groove of the T1-11?
It does not. Just make sure the wrap layer is tight. The grooves being vertical in the T-1-11 will allow any water to drain down. By using the recommended underlayment, the house wrap keeps most moisture off of the wall and the DRIP layer (see 14:48) allows any water to just drip down and not get caught between the faux brick and the house wrap. No caulking needed!
I disagree the owner of this barn will suffer from long term water damage issues. The tyvek and drip barrier were not installed correctly in this video. The t11 siding should have been cut and the tyvek shoved up under the t11 and a piece of flashing should have been placed over the top brick to prevent waiter from getting behind the stone
So this video classifies as a classic deceptive sponsored video advertisement. TLDR: this was probably close to $5,000 in fake stone for 300 sqft. I'll report it but it won't make a difference. Don't bother and buy this product unless money means nothing to you.