Here's the loot penalty calculator, depending on what level Town Hall you attack. Same or higher level - 100% of available loot 1 level lower - 90% 100% of available loot 2 levels lower - 50% 100% of available loot 3 levels lower - 25% 100% of available loot 4 or more levels lower - 5% 100% of available loot I said 10% in the video for 3 levels lower, woops... Still demoralizing that if I was a Town Hall 10 I would've only gotten ~240,000 resources from that first raid that had 950,000!
this is the trade off if you want to attack TH7-8 as a TH10. i think the matchmaking based off trophy count has run its course and we now see the problem with it. perhaps it is time for the matchmaking to be off actual level. there is so many ways they could go with it, but a fully maxed TH10 should suffer some kind of penalty for attacking my mid level TH8.
If you think about a lot of people that aren't into the game stop playing around th7 or th8 but will have decently high level mines and pumps eventually they fill up therefore more loot is available at lower levels.
A great farming strategy Ive learned is for a maxed out army camp for th 7-8. It uses 45 barbarians 45 goblins 90 archers and 10 wallbreakers. Spells can be interchangeable but I use 2 heal and 1 rage. Been hitting good loot with it
Keep in mind that upgrades at th9 take far longer so you have much more spare time to raid If you could get huge amounts of loot in every raid you'd be done saving very quickly and then have to wait days for your upgrade to finish with nothing to do And also if you could get large amounts of loot from a town hall 6 at town hall 9 what's to stop you completely destroying those bases with an unfair advantage and ignoring anything that is actually at your level?
If supercell didn't have the loot penalty, then higher town halls would just be able to steam roll lower bases and constantly steal all of their resources, leaving the lower levels to probably get demoralized, and not want to continue playing. While it isn't fair to higher levels, lower levels nearly need this penalty.
but they kinda already do that with the league system in the sense that its harder for a th7 to be in crystal than a th9. And I'm pretty sure that they somewhat recently increased the bonuses of every league too.
they should just make league bonuses higher once you're past gold honestly. Thats the only way to do it. you can't let higher levels creep around 1000 trophies and roll TH6 and 7's, even if they have all their loot in the storages.
Im in masters 1 as a new town hall 10, and gold isn't to bad, but there is no elixer because most people up there have maxed everything with elixer so they use it to do walls
The solution is simple, make it so that all town halls can collect the same amount of loot from the mines and pumps no matter what level town hall is defending. The defending person will not lose much from the storages, only from the mines and pumps
Hey Pat I like using this army comp for 200 spots and it is really great for getting loot ( 45 Barbarian's, 45 Archers, 68 Goblins, 6 Giants,and 6 wall Breakers). This comp work well for town hall 7-8
Hey pat. I was hearing about the sub 200 farming and I tried it out! It's a great place to farm for a town hall nine. I use 20 Bollons, 2 heal and the rest minions. It helps if you boost your barracks. Just a quick tip.
guys ive found something really epic on clash of clans- if ur town hall 8, u get 90% of the loot from town hall 9 players. So go down to about 1000-1100 trophies and theres bases with like 150k of each resource which isn't amazing but it comes up basically on every first try
I am a town hall 8 myself and yes, I do get less loot. However if you got more loot at the higher town halls you could pick on town hall 7s and 6s and get rich quick. They would lose their loot quick as well as their trophies.
Pat, new "update" just dropped saying trees and presents could be deleted because they were no longer making presents. Just wanted to give the heads up. Keep up the awesome videos!!
yes the Christmas trees you have stay until you destroy them, but don't gather presents. Once you have destroyed you initial trees, no more should spawn. :)
I agree with your comments on finding loot. I have 2 accounts. One is a TH7 and the other a TH9. 7 is very easy to find good loot while 9 is very tough.
I agree with supercell on loot penalties, otherwise higher bases would just take from low bases. But I do wish the league loot bonus was dependent on your TH level along with the league level. I mean, a TH9 crystal III would get a bigger league loot bonus than a TH8 crystal III.
i have a town hall eight account and a town hall six account. i find 300k resources every three bases or so on the town hall six account, but it takes 5-10 minutes to find 200k on the town hall eight account. i have moved both accounts around everywhere from bronze to crystal, and the times to find loot stay the same.
I'm a th 8 and in Gold III farming, no issues with collecting gold and elixer, my only problem is that i've only got 3 builders and always having 6.000.000 gold or elixer
Hey chief pat, im a town hall 9, and I too struggle to find good bases. But, I have found that the sweet spot for town hall 9 is 1575 trophies and the sweet spot for town hall 10 is about 1700. I hope this helped you because I can find bases in about 15-20 searches that have 600,000 resources. Clash on!
I definitely agree. It is very frustrating how at th7 I found 500k+ resource bases in a minute of searching like it was nothing and quickly had elixir to waste because I had nothing to upgrade. Whereas now that I am th9, it takes a good 15 minutes of searching to find a 500k+ base, if I even find one. And upgrading everything to max takes forever and most people move to th10 before they even max their th9 because it is so damn tedious. It's frustrating and the past 5 months I have barely played at all because the game has become kind of boring to me since it is so hard to find big loot bases.. that was what made the game so fun for me at th7 and even th8.
i think ur right in the logic that as u go up u should find more resources to counter that, but then people with like max troops could just drop to silver and take what they want, which would be unfair. Also if u got more loot as u go up, then the challenge of maxing wouldn't be a problem. But real nice raids and video
stephandoan correct but almost none would be stollen from the storages bud so the town hall 5 wouldn't care and minimal trophies are taken too. Also town halls 5-7 are complete cash cows and resources are of no shortage anyways.
You said that you can't get that much loot often. I got over 1mil in recources and I got that twice in a row. I shared both on my clan chat. It was awesome.
100% agree with you on higher town-halls. I have 2 accounts and the high level account is hardly used now as farming is so frustrating/pointless and upgrades super expensive. Town Hall 7 farming is is fun and rewarding. Loads of gold / elixir Especially with everyone having the 1gem all pumps/mine upgrade over the holidays, until the 7th Jan. :-)
It'll be cool if they change the lvl number of the troops. I find it somewhat confusing so instead have it with Roman numerals like I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII
Hey Patrick, how about a function that can set the lineup for war so people can be in and out without having to kick them of the clan would be nice, would be great if you can bring this forward to Supercell!
Pat, you were talking about the non-logic loot "structure" in this video. Would you mind mentioning this to supercell, I'm sure they would take in your idea and maybe change it in some way. Thanks
Hey I know this is a VERY common question but is there a way to reastart your clash with out reastart ing your device? If not I'll try to live with my base if someone could help it would mean a lot thanks +cheif pat
the loot penalty definitely makes sense, otherwise higher ths would raid lower ones all day long. But they should differ between mines/pumps and storages. So low ths can still have full storages without being cared of getting raided always, but if they have full mines/pumps why shouldn't higher ths get the full loot?
However if it was flipped, it would make it very easy for th9's and th10's to just pick on low bases and it would be difficult to get anything done at a low level
I jus got my 5th Xmas tree a couple days ago and it's been spawning presents like crazy but I'm pretty sure they'll stop when the 1 gem boost is over on the 7th
Not only is the loot penalty a pain in the ass, but now I have to get all my walls up to lvl 8 before I can use elixier to upgrade them which is also a pain in the ass. Supercell should have never done the change on walls.
my th is lvl 8 and i cant remember attacking a base with more than 150k of loots overall-.- sometimes i was searching for 10 minutes and there was nothing
I’m a th9 and I underestimated the 1300-1500 range and went from 80 lvl 9 walls and rest lvl 8 to all lvl 10 walls (max th9 walls) in less than a week.
Its a sales tactic you get loot fast and easy at the beginning of the game.its so easy you get addicted when your addicted you spend money. Later in the game harder to get loot but because you are addicted you play anyway
Am pretty sure the Christmas trees are going to stop spawning on January 7 because the 1 gem boost ends then, not 100% sure but most likely losing 1 gem boost with the Christmas trees and presents spawning
pat, how do u get such amazing loot attacks? im in the same league, same th and everything and the most ive found is about (in total) around 400-500k. ik i shouldnt complain but i just wanted to know. Thanks C:
Hi chief pat i am twn 7 have 2 acc and i have seen all the ones u have done now and i hve 2million elixar should i get factorey or dark barracks to get hogs???
Just a thought, but I think you get less loot at higher levels because stealing a lot would make it that much harder for the defender to progress. But great video!! @playclashofclans
You definitely are right. I can't do nothing in my town hall 10 after I finished updating. Even though most of my buildings are not even max in town hall 10, i thought the higher your town hall will make it easier. The fact is ridiculous, and right now i have no choice, i am playing in my small account.
How about that loot penalty only applying to storages and not mines/pumps. If you're lucky enough to find an inactive base you should be able to reap the full rewards.
Here's the loot penalty calculator, depending on what level Town Hall you attack.
Same or higher level - 100% of available loot
1 level lower - 90% 100% of available loot
2 levels lower - 50% 100% of available loot
3 levels lower - 25% 100% of available loot
4 or more levels lower - 5% 100% of available loot
I said 10% in the video for 3 levels lower, woops... Still demoralizing that if I was a Town Hall 10 I would've only gotten ~240,000 resources from that first raid that had 950,000!
i think you have it in reverse
Every time you post a video, i become very excited about it. Amazing channel keep it up.
this is the trade off if you want to attack TH7-8 as a TH10.
i think the matchmaking based off trophy count has run its course and we now see the problem with it.
perhaps it is time for the matchmaking to be off actual level.
there is so many ways they could go with it, but a fully maxed TH10 should suffer some kind of penalty for attacking my mid level TH8.
This logic... When my 2nd acc was th 5 i found raids which had 300k resource each! I only had to do 2 raid a day and i was done with upgrades...
If you think about a lot of people that aren't into the game stop playing around th7 or th8 but will have decently high level mines and pumps eventually they fill up therefore more loot is available at lower levels.
Biggest raid I've ever had pre-TH8 in this episode. $$$$$!
Join Ascension 14 or 15 people in it red flag with yellow rip we farm warloot
hey cheif pat what leuge are u getting so much loot on?
I have to hold 8 million gold + 1 million in cc for 6 days after Inferno lvl 2 . wish me luck 😂
I'm at TH7 hope u will attack me soon
i bet u ask supercell to find u these raids cause i search every league and the best loot was in gold 3 and im a twn hall 8
Simple solution. It allows you to steal loot without a penalty, but the defending base only losses the amount that they would lose with a penalty.
Genius my good sir!!!
HAHAHA GOOD SHOW!!
my base= alive again
***** Robocop
Patrick, what do use to record your screen? I have been looking forward to record Clash of Clans, but I don't know what to use to record my screen.
A great farming strategy Ive learned is for a maxed out army camp for th 7-8. It uses 45 barbarians 45 goblins 90 archers and 10 wallbreakers. Spells can be interchangeable but I use 2 heal and 1 rage. Been hitting good loot with it
Your clash video's are so smooth, I love it other clash youtuber's aren't this smooth.
Keep in mind that upgrades at th9 take far longer so you have much more spare time to raid
If you could get huge amounts of loot in every raid you'd be done saving very quickly and then have to wait days for your upgrade to finish with nothing to do
And also if you could get large amounts of loot from a town hall 6 at town hall 9 what's to stop you completely destroying those bases with an unfair advantage and ignoring anything that is actually at your level?
This came up in my recommendations in 2019- *THANKS TH-cam*
Just JS lol I looked it up
If supercell didn't have the loot penalty, then higher town halls would just be able to steam roll lower bases and constantly steal all of their resources, leaving the lower levels to probably get demoralized, and not want to continue playing. While it isn't fair to higher levels, lower levels nearly need this penalty.
right these noobs barely want to play hence y they r inactive but u just cant get all that loot
But now th10's and th9's dont wanna play, because there is no loot!
but they kinda already do that with the league system in the sense that its harder for a th7 to be in crystal than a th9. And I'm pretty sure that they somewhat recently increased the bonuses of every league too.
they should just make league bonuses higher once you're past gold honestly. Thats the only way to do it. you can't let higher levels creep around 1000 trophies and roll TH6 and 7's, even if they have all their loot in the storages.
Im in masters 1 as a new town hall 10, and gold isn't to bad, but there is no elixer because most people up there have maxed everything with elixer so they use it to do walls
The solution is simple, make it so that all town halls can collect the same amount of loot from the mines and pumps no matter what level town hall is defending. The defending person will not lose much from the storages, only from the mines and pumps
3:45 lol ur archers are lasering that town hall ( lasering is when you have so many archers in one spot shooting at one thing in looks like a laser)
Hey Pat I like using this army comp for 200 spots and it is really great for getting loot ( 45 Barbarian's, 45 Archers, 68 Goblins, 6 Giants,and 6 wall Breakers). This comp work well for town hall 7-8
The reason they do the loot that way is to speed along newbies , and help them get closer to end game.
I like it when your videos are longer Pat! I think 10 minutes is pretty nice. I think mostly everyone will agree with me on that. (longer vids!)
Hey pat. I was hearing about the sub 200 farming and I tried it out! It's a great place to farm for a town hall nine. I use 20 Bollons, 2 heal and the rest minions. It helps if you boost your barracks. Just a quick tip.
It scared me when you said "last episode". Like, holy crap xD i love these lets play tho! Keep them coming!
guys ive found something really epic on clash of clans- if ur town hall 8, u get 90% of the loot from town hall 9 players. So go down to about 1000-1100 trophies and theres bases with like 150k of each resource which isn't amazing but it comes up basically on every first try
I am a town hall 8 myself and yes, I do get less loot. However if you got more loot at the higher town halls you could pick on town hall 7s and 6s and get rich quick. They would lose their loot quick as well as their trophies.
Pat, new "update" just dropped saying trees and presents could be deleted because they were no longer making presents. Just wanted to give the heads up. Keep up the awesome videos!!
Love this series keep it up chief
Insane First raid! Keep it up! Can't wait till u reach th 9.
yes the Christmas trees you have stay until you destroy them, but don't gather presents. Once you have destroyed you initial trees, no more should spawn. :)
Counter intuitive is the word you're looking 4! Love your Chanel high quality content.
Keep it up! I love the let's play
I agree with your comments on finding loot. I have 2 accounts. One is a TH7 and the other a TH9. 7 is very easy to find good loot while 9 is very tough.
Each christmas tree will spawn only a limited number of presents per tree. The trees are still spawning though, I just got one yesterday.
I can't believe how lucky you get with finding great raids
I agree with supercell on loot penalties, otherwise higher bases would just take from low bases. But I do wish the league loot bonus was dependent on your TH level along with the league level. I mean, a TH9 crystal III would get a bigger league loot bonus than a TH8 crystal III.
That first raid gave me a heart attack
i have a town hall eight account and a town hall six account. i find 300k resources every three bases or so on the town hall six account, but it takes 5-10 minutes to find 200k on the town hall eight account. i have moved both accounts around everywhere from bronze to crystal, and the times to find loot stay the same.
I'm a th 8 and in Gold III farming, no issues with collecting gold and elixer, my only problem is that i've only got 3 builders and always having 6.000.000 gold or elixer
Hey chief pat, im a town hall 9, and I too struggle to find good bases. But, I have found that the sweet spot for town hall 9 is 1575 trophies and the sweet spot for town hall 10 is about 1700. I hope this helped you because I can find bases in about 15-20 searches that have 600,000 resources. Clash on!
Counter-intuitive :) but yeah, it is kind if crazy. Wish there was some system to work against that
damn nice loot, and you're right about the loot thing, supercell needs to do something about that
I definitely agree. It is very frustrating how at th7 I found 500k+ resource bases in a minute of searching like it was nothing and quickly had elixir to waste because I had nothing to upgrade. Whereas now that I am th9, it takes a good 15 minutes of searching to find a 500k+ base, if I even find one. And upgrading everything to max takes forever and most people move to th10 before they even max their th9 because it is so damn tedious. It's frustrating and the past 5 months I have barely played at all because the game has become kind of boring to me since it is so hard to find big loot bases.. that was what made the game so fun for me at th7 and even th8.
i think ur right in the logic that as u go up u should find more resources to counter that, but then people with like max troops could just drop to silver and take what they want, which would be unfair. Also if u got more loot as u go up, then the challenge of maxing wouldn't be a problem. But real nice raids and video
THEY SHOULD TAKE AWAY LOOT PENALTIES ON COLLECTORS. IT MAKES DO MUCH SENSE.
Yeah ! Good idea
You are an idiot. If a town hall 10 attacks a town hall 5, he would steal all the loot. Would not be fair for th5. So STFu
stephandoan correct but almost none would be stollen from the storages bud so the town hall 5 wouldn't care and minimal trophies are taken too. Also town halls 5-7 are complete cash cows and resources are of no shortage anyways.
They shouldn't do that, but instead, they should give more bonus loot from your rank: example 3000 elixir and 3000 gold for being in silver 2 rank.
No. High levels can use heros plus abilities to attack mines and pumps from low levels and free money
I like longer episodes. its a good way to spend free time!
The loot penalty acts as a deterrent so that high level players wont pick on lower level layers.
Why are your mines and pumps not boosted!?
You said that you can't get that much loot often. I got over 1mil in recources and I got that twice in a row. I shared both on my clan chat. It was awesome.
100% agree with you on higher town-halls. I have 2 accounts and the high level account is hardly used now as farming is so frustrating/pointless and upgrades super expensive. Town Hall 7 farming is is fun and rewarding. Loads of gold / elixir Especially with everyone having the 1gem all pumps/mine upgrade over the holidays, until the 7th Jan. :-)
It'll be cool if they change the lvl number of the troops. I find it somewhat confusing so instead have it with Roman numerals like I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII
I totally agree that high level raiding has problems! I can never find any loot with my th 9
How can u switch accounts on the iPhone. Are u signed in to Facebook because Ik with android u can sign in with Google but how do u do it on Apple
I think the loot penalty is to push you to get more trophies to get more loot bonus.
Hey, Pat I know you are super busy with your life but I love your videos so keep 'em coming.
Pat, the update ends in January 7th so that's when they will stop spawning presents. If you look in settings and go to news, it says it
I'm a town hall 8 and when I pushed to masters I saw a 650k+ of each raid but it was an almost completely maxed town hall 9 with full everything
How the hell does he get these bases
Hey Patrick, how about a function that can set the lineup for war so people can be in and out without having to kick them of the clan would be nice, would be great if you can bring this forward to Supercell!
When are you going to make episode 100 of your first lets play?
Think that if you have a successful defense against an attack you should get the loot bonus for the attack failed. If that makes sense
The trees that i have stopped spawning presents. Well, the OLD ones have. A new one spawned, and its been giving me presents, but the others haven't.
any ideas on a good trophy level to be at for farming when th10? tried 1700-2100 and couldn't really find good bases to farm consistently ;(
Pat, you were talking about the non-logic loot "structure" in this video. Would you mind mentioning this to supercell, I'm sure they would take in your idea and maybe change it in some way.
Thanks
I'm a town hall 8 and I have a level 2 lightning spell, should I upgrade it???
Hey I know this is a VERY common question but is there a way to reastart your clash with out reastart ing your device? If not I'll try to live with my base if someone could help it would mean a lot thanks +cheif pat
the loot penalty definitely makes sense, otherwise higher ths would raid lower ones all day long. But they should differ between mines/pumps and storages. So low ths can still have full storages without being cared of getting raided always, but if they have full mines/pumps why shouldn't higher ths get the full loot?
How do you find these bases so easy? I have to search about 150-170 times to find a decent base with decent loot
how do u find that amount of loot.I dont find 400k of total resources
One way u can tell the loot penalties is by how much u get from destroying a town hall
it is ofc odd that the hgher th u get the less loot - but how would you fix it ?
I agree about the loot but that is what makes it challenging
Only 2 trees spawn presents for me. I have 5 currently. Idk when they will stop spawning presents. I think it will be after the update.
Well it is good but how you always finds those raids i have to search a lot for one of those
However if it was flipped, it would make it very easy for th9's and th10's to just pick on low bases and it would be difficult to get anything done at a low level
I jus got my 5th Xmas tree a couple days ago and it's been spawning presents like crazy but I'm pretty sure they'll stop when the 1 gem boost is over on the 7th
How do you find all these high loot bases?
Not only is the loot penalty a pain in the ass, but now I have to get all my walls up to lvl 8 before I can use elixier to upgrade them which is also a pain in the ass. Supercell should have never done the change on walls.
When are u starting a clan or are u I would like to join it and I'm about at the same place as u in clash, Happy new year!!!
you get the dark elixir pump at th 8 right?
Hey pat what is a good trophy range for town hall 8 for farming / loot
my th is lvl 8 and i cant remember attacking a base with more than 150k of loots overall-.-
sometimes i was searching for 10 minutes and there was nothing
Im farming in gold 3 is that the best or should i farm higher or lower?? Could someone please tell me? Im th9
I’m a th9 and I underestimated the 1300-1500 range and went from 80 lvl 9 walls and rest lvl 8 to all lvl 10 walls (max th9 walls) in less than a week.
Does anyone know a good place to farm at for town hall 10?? Thanks!
Its a sales tactic you get loot fast and easy at the beginning of the game.its so easy you get addicted when your addicted you spend money. Later in the game harder to get loot but because you are addicted you play anyway
Am pretty sure the Christmas trees are going to stop spawning on January 7 because the 1 gem boost ends then, not 100% sure but most likely losing 1 gem boost with the Christmas trees and presents spawning
how long does he spend searching for bases?
pat, how do u get such amazing loot attacks? im in the same league, same th and everything and the most ive found is about (in total) around 400-500k. ik i shouldnt complain but i just wanted to know. Thanks C:
Totally agree with you Chief. I get very tired of the game now since everything is so expensive and it's hard to find anything in TH10.
Just curious are you ever going to join a clan
What app do you use to record clash of clans?
Hi chief pat i am twn 7 have 2 acc and i have seen all the ones u have done now and i hve 2million elixar should i get factorey or dark barracks to get hogs???
I'm completely confused. I'm a farming TH7 and im in silver 2 just like you. The thing is, you find like 600+ Raids but I can't even find 50k raids...
Just a thought, but I think you get less loot at higher levels because stealing a lot would make it that much harder for the defender to progress. But great video!! @playclashofclans
Why don't you boost mines and pumps?
So your saying at th2 you get the most resources?
What is the screen recorder used in this video ?
I was quite inactive this season ... i saw ur loot and decided to attack too ... First try 462 k gold , 358 k elexir , 1278 Dark elexir (as a th 9) xD
Do you ever use healing spells?
Fun episode video. Good one and thanks for sharing :)
How to get the last guy on dark barracks so fast
Why do you attack with the same troop?
When comes the next episode?
Best league for loot at th8?
You definitely are right. I can't do nothing in my town hall 10 after I finished updating. Even though most of my buildings are not even max in town hall 10, i thought the higher your town hall will make it easier. The fact is ridiculous, and right now i have no choice, i am playing in my small account.
I think supercell should go back to the old loot system for attacking, but the new loot system for defense
How about that loot penalty only applying to storages and not mines/pumps. If you're lucky enough to find an inactive base you should be able to reap the full rewards.