@Boolard-ln2pu though they are still op if you let them loose. They are a menace that needs to be stopped, and some of these methods help in this purpose
i absolutely despise SMG because even though combat engineers exist, their grenade does 20 DAMAGE to apcs and light vehicles like supply carrier, how does a grenade penetrate or even slightly scratch a BATTLE TANK (12 damage) COMPOSITE ARMOUR 40 CM THICK
@@phonicstream9740me suffering so badly on PvP when I am against a smg user(I lost 4/4 times to that guy even thought I had an “almost perfect” loadout to unleash the smgs Pls nerf smg…..
How to eat up your enemy's whole infantry group in pvp mode: First you need light gunners positioned in their pushing way(predict it) When you caught an enemy pull out a sniper to make sure there isnt any armor and just pull out a medium armored tank and a whole smg squad to eat up their whole infantry
Fact: grenade in SMG squad can anti-tonk if you have enough squad and do it (throw grenade) alternate, tonk will be lost hp. so I use this one to anti tonk if my tonk is out of fuel or don’t have a anti tonk unit (Idk this fact is new for me or it just a normal one and I think my English skill is bad😅)
Flame tank is weird. It doesn’t have the range or flexibility to be used as effectively against infantry as other options yet it lacks any means of de de being itself against other armored units
I will say, in the defence of SMG users, I usually only use 2-3 SMG’s per starting spawn. And that combined with ambulance is a personal favorite. The reason I use SMG’s is because I don’t use artillery in my attack builds (don’t say it’s not effective) so I have no need for radios, and using Grunt M is with ambulance is pointless. So SMG’s can use grenades as a substitute for arty, while being healed by ambulance. Plus, I use modern tactics with SMG squads, such as tanking damage with vehicles and using infantry to snuff out other infantry. All together (plus the German skin) I use blitzkrieg tactics most of the time, and SMG is perfect for this.
How to neutralize SMG Squad one get sniper team as they have the longest range in infantry but you need to get the pins so you don't have to worry about your snipers getting killed by the SMG Squad how do you know that units these behind bullet trails when they attack the sniper team also has a radio to call an artillery if you have any artillery units on standby within range that have ammo
As someone who has gotten board of the campaigns and have beat them all. I mostly play PvP to show my skills and boost my ego. Im pretty sure SMG got nerfed but you still will find a SMG spammer in a lobby once. The problem is that they are not noobs and use BTs to sniper heavy armor for the SMGs. This really pisses me off because i dont want to change my loadout to counter SMG and not normal loadouts. So i've slowly merged rocket truck into my loadout and the nerf made it much better.
This video has a bit of fun in it, but honestly it was very useful for me. After this tutorial I understood how important is it to be able to pin down or scare a unit. I understood the importance and sheer power of snipers, now they always hold special place in my inventory as an ultimate anti infantry unit.
Hmmmmm, might start using CS tanks, I have been looking for a tank that be anti infantry, yet still keep up with the tactics of the battle tank, CS tanks might just do it
i "unintentionally" used the rocket strat, worked like a charm against smg squad spammer in pvp. (by "unintentionally", i mean i accidently equipped it before a match)
how to destroy smg squads (simplified) 1. use aoe (they're cheap so they're very spammable so aoe) 2. sapper (use mines to slow them down) 3.tanks (distract and block the path) 4. recon car (go forward, attack, retreat, repeat) 5. high damage (one shot them)
I think that smg squad had their flaw and advantage their advantage is that is they are shock trooper so they will destory infantry in the way and light armor vehicle just like german ww1 stromtrooper now their flaw is when they attack and already use grenade that is your chance to counter back with grunt or artillery
Also I think that remove their multi attack would make them useless since they are not shock trooper anymore they would die before even had a chance to throw grenade
when i play bedroom attack rigged trio i spawn many strong unit but third player spawn four smg squad to face 2 recon tank atgm and 1 recon car and second player spawn transport truck and rocket battery and yeah just transport truvk and rcoket truck no radio unit
For me i chose the smg squad and grunts or grunts m (heres because: i was testing the test Server on ts but then... in normal ts i got the smg squad soo any body they not goes rage soo... yeah..)
@@phonicstream9740Thanks for the reply, I’m going to place it behind my infantry wave to defend against armour, my friend uses a MultiH Tank with SMGs, supply carrier and nothing else. I’m probably going to use rocket trucks + sniper teams to wipe out his SMGs and somewhat damage his MultiH.
The SMG Squad Eats Morale From Its Enemy As Breakfast
It also gets its own morale mulched by everything in the game
The whole flametrhower evolution:
Fear me and my quad launcher from fortnight.
(Seriously though, flame launcher is S++)
@@phonicstream9740 ah yes, asking for it to get nerfed but also showing how to counter it (hence why it isn't too op).
@Boolard-ln2pu though they are still op if you let them loose. They are a menace that needs to be stopped, and some of these methods help in this purpose
The smg squad's cons:
long potato cooldown
Radio tech be like: pin down 3 infranty,deal 125+dmg to nearby ally troop
the 3 pins are your own units
Grunts M shall rise again
Not if they get obliterated in ONE TURN on TRYHARD
Rocket truck and Howitzers honest reaction:
@@frosttoros663*spaag left the chat*
@@frosttoros663as a howitzer i can confirm that
@@Deleted_channel2627 spaag is too expensive. Also no splash damage
it not only destroyes infantry but it also steals supply trucks like its candy
When you give an smg a supply truck
@@phonicstream9740 my 4 HT CW close to the Supply Carrier: dont worry, we got you. 5s later:SURRENDERED
i absolutely despise SMG because even though combat engineers exist, their grenade does 20 DAMAGE to apcs and light vehicles like supply carrier, how does a grenade penetrate or even slightly scratch a BATTLE TANK (12 damage) COMPOSITE ARMOUR 40 CM THICK
funnily enough theres a more balanced version of SMG squad in the game, its just only obtainable with commands
@@phonicstream9740devs trolling us
I did guest build up on rigged in 7 turns but on tryhard... Wayy more and you know why
The closest to anti-tank grunts we'll get. (I was thinking of an OP unit where grunts carried an RPG / bazooka with them, like weapon squads irl)
@@veosult9066 commandos have bazookas in their backpacks but don't use them for some reason
Who knew some guys with smg and nades could be a crisis
18 dmg to bt lol
@@phonicstream9740 wow 18 for 25 and mortar cost 40 and it does 10 only balance lol
(I changed grunts to smg cuz of this XD)
@@phonicstream9740me suffering so badly on PvP when I am against a smg user(I lost 4/4 times to that guy even thought I had an “almost perfect” loadout to unleash the smgs
Pls nerf smg…..
@@chemicalyt7409oh no.. you were suppose to be against them not join them!!
@@kewi2920 BUTS ITS TOO GOOOD
Some that you forgot to include: ifv, grunts + howi spam and scout tank
I didnt include those because they are more obvious, but also braindead
Scout tank is braindead?@@phonicstream9740
Not as brain dead as ifv but it does seem a pretty obvious choice
I use my grunts m and they die in one grenade smg combo
i feel like combat engineers are more of a menace than smg squad there grenades deal like 30 dmg to heavy armor
9:57 Now imagine multihtank CS
please do not give them ideas
@@phonicstream9740 Now imagine biker CS
@@phonicstream9740Actually Heli strapped with bunker buster gun sounds better
@@СлаваКиржаевaw hel naw
They should make an apc cs (a mortar strapped to an apc)
Sniper team + Rocket Truck duo will obliterate SMGs
Yeah
Ah yes smg squads biggest fear, women. 2:07
How to eat up your enemy's whole infantry group in pvp mode:
First you need light gunners positioned in their pushing way(predict it)
When you caught an enemy pull out a sniper to make sure there isnt any armor and just pull out a medium armored tank and a whole smg squad to eat up their whole infantry
You inspired me to play this great game again, Thank you.
Go ahead but just know the game is very broken right now
At least make its AT less because it still deals 20 damage to light armor
its armor pen is already 0
As a assault gun player, I feel honored
let go radio tech my beloved for the win :)
Rockets are RNG bases. so you need to pray to god that most of them won't friendly fire.
11-th way to humble SMG squad - Another SMG squad
Humble yourself!
SMG is sooooooo broken that it instantly invalidates rifleman by alot aside of the pitiful 1 tile radio
Hey did it get fixed by now just got back ti nic
Nah grunt with the radio can still gang up on a smg.... WHAT IF i scout it down then take care of it first before it clap my grunts????
I love radio tech screen as i always use it in loadout lel
the silly
XD
Seriously i barely go nic but when i go once i just annihilate people in pvp who forgot ban radio and dip
_Funny Katyusha noise intensified_
at 4:27 the missle tank fires to the beat of the backround music
Purely coincidence but ok
nay to smg squad yay to grunts
‘All we need to do is hold on until it gets balanced’
The balance in question:
Riflmen mains stays on top!!!1!11!1!
RADIO TECH!!
Commando V2’s reaction to only recon having multi move:
Nice thumbnail you got there :troll:
No more smg squad
SMG: You cant defeat me
Multi H: Yeah but she can
Bunker buster: Hello
Smg if you are using it against bots:👍🗿
Smg if they fight you with their bot leader💀💀💀😒
What is the method 10 unit?
It doesn’t matter anymore because it’s unobtainable, unfortunately
Thats disappointing, still I would like to know
Radio tech, it’s more of a joke unit
Fact: grenade in SMG squad can anti-tonk if you have enough squad and do it (throw grenade) alternate, tonk will be lost hp. so I use this one to anti tonk if my tonk is out of fuel or don’t have a anti tonk unit
(Idk this fact is new for me or it just a normal one and I think my English skill is bad😅)
SMG squad when they are very close to your bunker:
My reply: If you can't beat them, JOIN THEM
ngl half track cs is my favourite vehicle in the game it just is useful in so many situations
Yeah since it stays in the back most of the time
@@phonicstream9740 and isn't Braun rot
Flame tank actually does more damage than most of the rest of the options for fire, but is vulnerable to other tanks and AT
Flame tank is weird. It doesn’t have the range or flexibility to be used as effectively against infantry as other options yet it lacks any means of de de being itself against other armored units
i will forever stay true to the Grunts mortar combo
Grunts+mortar is base
The new grunts range buff with destroy any other infantry’s chance at competing
Mr.President is also a great counter, unfortunately or fortunately the man is locked behind a version without SMG
There is a way
What’s the name of the last unit?
Radio tech
@@phonicstream9740 thanks
And what do we do about the heavy tank CW that is already available on the nic test server?
its the test server, its not actually going to become available on main
Let's Just hope it won't be added
@@phonicstream9740 this aged like milk..
They add
damn those lucky riflemen issued with smgs instead of bolt rifles and grenades instead of potatoes
The SMG squad is too memetic to stop
I'm nerfing this to the ground
do it
Pls do it
I will say, in the defence of SMG users, I usually only use 2-3 SMG’s per starting spawn. And that combined with ambulance is a personal favorite.
The reason I use SMG’s is because I don’t use artillery in my attack builds (don’t say it’s not effective) so I have no need for radios, and using Grunt M is with ambulance is pointless. So SMG’s can use grenades as a substitute for arty, while being healed by ambulance.
Plus, I use modern tactics with SMG squads, such as tanking damage with vehicles and using infantry to snuff out other infantry.
All together (plus the German skin) I use blitzkrieg tactics most of the time, and SMG is perfect for this.
The 25 tix commando but no healing things
What a brilliant idea…
Just remove its double attack ability and its balanced.
So simple yet they won’t do it
Solution: SUPERIOR ARTILLERY FIREPOWER
My fellow AA gun user
How to neutralize SMG Squad one get sniper team as they have the longest range in infantry but you need to get the pins so you don't have to worry about your snipers getting killed by the SMG Squad how do you know that units these behind bullet trails when they attack the sniper team also has a radio to call an artillery if you have any artillery units on standby within range that have ammo
Me summarizing the video
As someone who has gotten board of the campaigns and have beat them all. I mostly play PvP to show my skills and boost my ego. Im pretty sure SMG got nerfed but you still will find a SMG spammer in a lobby once. The problem is that they are not noobs and use BTs to sniper heavy armor for the SMGs. This really pisses me off because i dont want to change my loadout to counter SMG and not normal loadouts. So i've slowly merged rocket truck into my loadout and the nerf made it much better.
If you cant beat SMG just join them.
This video has a bit of fun in it, but honestly it was very useful for me. After this tutorial I understood how important is it to be able to pin down or scare a unit. I understood the importance and sheer power of snipers, now they always hold special place in my inventory as an ultimate anti infantry unit.
April fool's marines are better 😎👍
At least they don’t do damage to light vehicles anymore and they have weaker guns, but still, you can’t fight back
Hmmmmm, might start using CS tanks, I have been looking for a tank that be anti infantry, yet still keep up with the tactics of the battle tank, CS tanks might just do it
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I use SMG for WW2 loadout
The balanced smg squad be like:
-25 > 30 tix
-can attack with its submachine gun twice
-Gernade cooldown: 3 > 2 turn
-Gernade dmg: 35 > 20
-Gernade 0 > 5 AP
-Submachine gun 4 > 2 ammo (both)
-Sub machine gun does 7-8 x 4 (28-32 dmg) instead of 10-11 x4 (40-44 dmg)
-90 HP > 85 HP
At this point id rather have the devs just move grunts to a lower level
i "unintentionally" used the rocket strat, worked like a charm against smg squad spammer in pvp.
(by "unintentionally", i mean i accidently equipped it before a match)
Happens
Grunts and grunts m shall take the the number 1 needed unit again
And going to be nerfed to the ground like gunship
Just chill is called logic🗿
they sound pretty balanced given there are 10 ways to counter them arent you just supposed to play around their strengths
i like that ending, sadly i dont have the unit
unfortunate they removed it
Just use rocket truck and howitzer. I don't even need anti vehicle in my deck because of them
Also, I personally think the IFV (INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE) To prove useful
how to destroy smg squads (simplified)
1. use aoe (they're cheap so they're very spammable so aoe)
2. sapper (use mines to slow them down)
3.tanks (distract and block the path)
4. recon car (go forward, attack, retreat, repeat)
5. high damage (one shot them)
I am using SMG just so that I can evolve it into Grunts
Yeah why did they make it a pre evolution?
The best thing to happen is to have the squad
REMOVE SMG SQUAD MULTI ATTACK
They are weaker now, but i cant believe that they cost the same as riflemen.. they should cost at least 40 tix with how versatile they are
In first method its 485 tix worth of units to beat a 205 worth of SMGs + RPGs
Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
Is it possible to obtain HIM?
Not anymore
I think that smg squad had their flaw and advantage their advantage is that is they are shock trooper so they will destory infantry in the way and light armor vehicle just like german ww1 stromtrooper now their flaw is when they attack and already use grenade that is your chance to counter back with grunt or artillery
Also I think that remove their multi attack would make them useless since they are not shock trooper anymore they would die before even had a chance to throw grenade
No bt😭😭
smg can deal 18 dmg to bt on its own
So
4 SMG squad surrounding a BT can deal 72 damage...
IN ONE TURN
@@phonicstream9740 just shoot back
@@aqilagumilar2004 😭💔
Combine smg squad and recon tanks, now you got a stormtrooper div
I dont think that would be a good idea
ice cream machines are so humble
wumble
numble
dimbly dumble
dog go ho hum i think his names thrumble
Smg flavored ice cream
What does cs stand for?
🤷♂️
i've turned to using a smg squad blitzkrieg strat in pvp since they came out 😭
Would be cool if devs rebalance SMG Squad by nerfing the attack times to only once every turn, make them cost 30 tix.
hans get the flammenwerfer
It werfs flamen
I'm not a smg spammer, but did u just hate anything that didn't have radio?(mostly)
when i play bedroom attack rigged trio i spawn many strong unit but third player spawn four smg squad to face 2 recon tank atgm and 1 recon car and second player spawn transport truck and rocket battery and yeah just transport truvk and rcoket truck no radio unit
Wth
Man...
Wish i got radio tech when i could have
As a psycho, I like using the smg squad
👻
@phonicstream9740 xd
Imagine a MultiBTank CS 🔥🔥
There’s not really a point to that existing so don’t count on it
Bro forgot that armed heli works pretty well on smgs especially when they are grouped XD
Heli is for losers
@phonicstream9740 no I mean using it wisely
It’s still absolute cheese because air defense is hardly ever present in the game
“Spams about 5000000000 SMGs
Radio tech:😈😈😈
what about bt? oh right they can get overwhelmed
Surrender simulator
For me i chose the smg squad and grunts or grunts m (heres because: i was testing the test Server on ts but then... in normal ts i got the smg squad soo any body they not goes rage soo... yeah..)
about time u posted
i turned into juan in discord bc of u being ded
Remember me? I friended you and i said i would subscribe.
Probably
POV: me running for my life because i just got smg's and i need 600 for grunts
They should add a unit to counter the smg.
theres a lot of units that can counter smg
10:10 spaag be like
Do you recommend using the recoilless rifle against SMGs too?
It will work as long as there isn’t two of them
@@phonicstream9740Thanks for the reply, I’m going to place it behind my infantry wave to defend against armour, my friend uses a MultiH Tank with SMGs, supply carrier and nothing else. I’m probably going to use rocket trucks + sniper teams to wipe out his SMGs and somewhat damage his MultiH.
Tips: use helicopter against the smg troop
use helicopter against your brain cells
Why