"The basic human empathy was coming from inside the house." That is easily the single greatest line from any of your videos and you bet I'll be sharing that around the internet.
@@BJGvideos considering how wanting representation for anything from women to sexual and gender minorities wanting them to be represented well and take their opinions to heart is considered to be SJW, yeah.
@@High-LordHarza Only by nitwits who think SJWs in any way represent equality. SJWs aren't the people who work for equality. They're the people who DISTRACT from equality by inventing "issues" out of nothing instead of working to undo actual oppression.
I feel like there should be more infusions that are unique to Artificer Subclasses. I'd let any Battle Smith use an Infusion Slot to make their Defender Large so they don't have to use Concentration to keep it Large
Rats, I was kinda hoping to break Tulok by pointing out that Supergirl also becomes a Red Lantern, but with this build it's easy enough to tweak the spells to give more fire damage and include things like Bigbys for energy constructs. I was also going to point out that she trained for years in Kryptonian martial arts so monk should be included, but the unarmed fighting style plus the bladesong kinda covers that. Damn it, the build is so versatile that it's canonproof (and cannonproof).
@@ChromaticJester They’re all tech geniuses, to a degree. Each member of the Bat-family is good at everything, but they all have one specialty in which the exceed Bruce himself. Tim’s is detective work. Barbara’s is computers.
I'd argue the Batgirl build here is viable for her time as Oracle too, so, y'know, good on you. And I mean, the author of the Killing Joke thought it was fine as a standalone story. He didn't like that people saw it and went "This! This spectacle of sheer grotesquery and awful counterpointed by heroic determination but with an intentionally unclear ending is what ALL COMICS SHOULD BE!" and then spent the next two decades trying desperately to make all comics exactly like something that was supposed to be a particularly striking and upsetting one off. Including trying to find ways to retroactively make the Killing Joke itself *worse* in its subject matter for that sweet sweet EDGE. And honestly, give me determined optimism over that any day.
The Killing Joke should have been taken with the same weight as Kingdom Come. Sometimes bad shit happens. Yet now it's like it happens all the time and also retconned because reasons...
Alan Moore also admits that he went too far and regrets how he handled Barbara in The Killing Joke (though he wasn't nearly as callous as the guy who signed off on it). While there's some good stuff in that graphic novel, like the Joker's origin story and his final confrontation with Batman with the "One Bad Day" speech and, equally as important, Batman's rebuttal, it's understandable to walk away from the book feeling icky and Moore does have a point when he says that his goal of making something that could be used as a conclusion of Batman and the Joker's story was pointless in the end considering their nature as long-running comic book characters whose stories will never end. The fact that what happened to Barbara happened is bad enough, but the book honestly handles it even worse than one might expect. That said, imitators definitely managed to be worse because, like imitators of Moore's other famous dark and gritty graphic novel, Watchmen, they missed the point. Writers trying to imitate The Killing Joke's grittiness really seemed to lean into the Joker's twisted point of view in his "One Bad Day" speech that the world and everything in it is just absolutely grimdark even though Moore's point was that the Joker's beliefs are wrong and that the argument he makes actually falls completely on its face because the crux of his argument relied on him thinking he drove Gordon insane in a single day but, as readers see before the Joker even starts that speech and as Batman tells him, Gordon is still sane. Completely buying into the grittiness was the exact opposite of Moore's point.
@@aidanmorley3736 The issue is tho even if it was a mistake it made moves others were scared to do honestly. Looking at manga they ain't scared at times to have to finality. Like people get hurt, things change. DC/Marvel can't push. Alan Moore pushed. The one bad day concept is less on the Killing Joke yet look at the movie "Falling Down". The day is the breaking point yet a person has to fall far before snapping. Joker underestamated Gordon, like he's fell down some steps yet the wall stopped him. Like here's a modern example very recent which is X-Men green it's like that 90's edge but with some current events yet it's so edgy it loops back into irony and only makes the heroes look villainous. Babs becoming Oracle proves Moore's point that one bad day doesn't break you and it make her character more than another mook in filpping off buildings at night. It was harsh, hell yeah yet that's better then here's another batfamily kidnapping. They break themselfs out just as batman and one of the robins get there. Then they all kick Joker's teeth in for 5mins. Finally he's either locked up or he gets away via on last trick. Comics play with edge in the worse way because you know it's a knife that can't cut it's too blunt.
i was gonna write a whole essay on the complex legacy of killing joke, about how the artform is really intricate and well made while the subject matter is super gross, but i’m glad other people addressed that
Fun fact: The Batman (as in, the cartoon most of the Batgirl footage here was pulled from) being my first significant exposure to the greater Batman mythos meant that I thought of Batgirl as Batman's primary sidekick (like, in general, not just on that show) for quite a while, as she was his first sidekick on that show. (Teen Titans was still on air when she was introduced, so my assumption is that possible confusion there was enough to keep Robin being introduced on the show for a while.) Yes, I was aware of "Batman and Robin" as a phrase. No, that didn't dissuade me.
That's not a fun fact, that's just a detail about your life. Certainly if I ever brought this information up myself in a conversation I would get blank stares, as anecdotes from a guy on the internet does not make for great small talk. For those of you disappointed that you did not, in fact, get a fun fact from this comment in which you can casually toss out in passing to your family and/or friends this holiday season I present you with this as consolation trivia. The original Batgirl, or at least the Barbara Gordon version, while first debuting in comics in January 1963 she was initially conceptualized for the 60s Batman TV show but her television debut wouldn't be until later that year in September.
She was not his first sidekick in Batman the Animated Series. Robin was introduced in the Second Episode, and was a fixture. Batgirl did not even show up till near the end of season 1, like 50 something episodes in.
@@DarthSoto78 Cool beans, that wasn't the show I was referring to in my post: you can tell because I said "The Batman," not "Batman the Animated Series." The Batman was a cartoon that ran from 2004-2008, and in *that* show, Batgirl was introduced in the first episode of season 3, and was a regular for a full season before Robin was introduced in the first episode of season 4. (I'd thought the gap between them was longer than that before I went to look up the specifics for this response, but it was still enough of a gap to leave an impact.)
19:00 - And if anyone tries to say "Supergirl doesn't have a sword! She cannot be a Bladesinger!" You just point to the CURRENT RUN in her comic where she.... is using a sword. (Honestly, I half expected a level Barbarian due to her time as a Red Lantern.)
Also, this channel refluffs classes and subclasses all the time, and Bladesinger doesn't require that you use a weapon, only that you *not* use a two-handed weapon (or armor, or a shield). Just call it a Kryptonian martial art she learned before the planet blew up, it's fine.
@@HeyLookASquirrl Supergirl is actually MAD flexible. And the combination of these two classes can be tweaked to account for EVERYTHING she's gone through/all of her power sets. This is just too good. I'm actually going to use this build for "Lore", Zod's Son from the Future, because it still fits.
Double Build December starting off strong. Get to see reflavors of old builds with extra helpings of mad genius to even make Blade Ward solid. Thought we might get some triple multiclass cheese for Batgirl to Rogue to get the Expetise flex but Artificer is so strong and versatile already that it isn't really needed. Supergirl is a much cleaner version of a Kryptonian without any homebrew and works very well. And that long attack combination explanation was very impressive and also makes Kara really scary at any range since you could devote purely to Firebolt for most of the attacks.
Okay consider the following: Barbara uses some random Kyrptonian tech that her -GF- BFF hooked her up with to build a Transformer buddy that can turn into a motorcycle. Does it have any basis in canon? No idea. Is it awesome? YES.
the weird part of batman isn't his gadgets or his skills, t is just how easily he can teach different people from different backgrounds and settings how to use his skills
Okay, the "Basic Human EmpathyJoke" made me crack up. That line was actually genuinely funny. The builds of this channel are good, but so is the humor.
Fun fact: Barbara Gordon as Oracle originated not in any Batman books, but in Suicide Squad! Kim Yale and John Ostrander, the book's writers, didn't like how Babs was treated in The Killing Joke and beyond (not so fun fact, when Alan Moore was asking his editors about the decision one guy legit said "Yeah, cripple the bitch" and probably was not fired for it) so they introduced a mysterious hacker named Oracle who breaks into the Squad's files and helps them out occasionally.
*SPOILERS FOR YOUNG JUSTICE PHANTOMS* I like how it's implied in the new season of YJ that instead of killing joke, it was Cass who did it when Barb took the hit instead of letting the joker get hit which caused her to become oracle. Cause killing Joke was yeesh.
Damian- Fighter/Monk. Dueling/Great Weapon style for the katana (reflavoured longsword), Dedicated Weapon/Kensei to use DEX for it to be less MAD. Blue Beetle (assuming Jaime Reyes)- Armorer Artificer/Hexblade Warlock. Artificer for infusions (Winged Boots, Mind Sharpener, Arcane Propulsion Armor); Hexblade for weapon creation.
Tulok you've had a lot of great lines, but "the basic human empathy was coming from inside the house." Might be my favorite. Sad it has to exist but still.
Jesse Faden can also fly and deal fire damage. And if you want a character to pair her with for Double December, Control and Alan Wake take place in the same universe and are even tied together in a DLC, so Alan Wake could make for a fun partner build.
"I nailed that in one take; Mason can confirm." Honestly, at that point, I was expecting you to just sing the lyrics, "And a partridge in a pear tree." XD
22:23 I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Extra Attack from multiple sources don't stack... after F11 when you take the extra attack you have to "choose" between the 3 attacks of fighter, or Bladesinger's 2 attacks (or 1+cantrip). This would mean your action surge round is something like: 6 Attacks (Fighter) 3 attacks (Fighter) + 1 attack + cantrip (Bladesinger) + bonus action attack (EK) OR 2 Attacks + 2 cantrips (Bladesinger) + bonus action attack (EK) Having said all of that, i very much like your interpretation better, but mileage may vary based on the DM.
You could also argue that War Magic's wording "when you use your action to cast a cantrip" means that you have to use the Cast a Spell action to cast the cantrip, and Extra Attacks is part of an Attack action.
Is it wrong that I want to see Tooth Fairy AND the “Kangaroo” from Rise of Guardians as part of December 2021 double builds now? It can be a very good way to show off the two races from Beyond the Witchlight at once.
You can acknowledge that Barbara's tenure as Oracle was a resounding success that ultimately did amazing things for her character AND that the Killing Joke is a raging dumpster fire that should never have been published let alone adapted into an even worse animated film.
Killing Joke worked better than some modern works where they set up something interesting and then "reset" the world right after the event. KJ had something bad happen and rolled with it for a while. The movie is DCAU's worse piece period
Due to how downtime works, and how we can make spell scrolls thanks to i think it is tasha's or some such. if you have arcana profficiency and use some money and time, you can store your spells as spell scrolls effectively giving you more prepared "gadgets"
Now all we need is a Huntress build (which should be easy -- rogue, hand crossbow, 700 sit-ups/day, done!) and you too can game as the OG Birds of Prey.
@@milanmarkovic2721 Then those work. My rule is simple, "if it uses a weapon attack roll.... it's a weapon." Jeremy Crawford has repeatedly gone against RAW with his Tweets, so I don't take the tweets as gospel.
reminds me of a story in one of the older editions, where a paladin found himself in bed with a shapeshifted devil, and being unarmed, figured out she wouldn't be armored on the inside. A... smite... send her running...
*Jackson* Crawford said, "Loki is not Thor's brother". *Jeremy* Crawford said the bit about d&d. 😁 (Not trying to be a douche; I just happened to be reading one of Jackson Crawford's books atm)
Thank you for Kirk and Spock. Still pulling for Eglantine Price (Bednobs and Broomsticks), Winifred Sanderson (Hocus Pocus), Prince Voltran (Flash Gordon), Councilor Troi (Star Trek), Mary Poppins, and the Reverend Doctor Syn (The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh).
I think a separate Oracle build could be fun to get a wheelchair Barbara But admittedly Oracle isn’t a combat based character, and D&D characters are really tooled around doing some damage some how. There’s not a “hacker” class, y’know? But still, if you got an idea for it, I’d be excited to see it
@@thegayghost872 I mean if they continue the MTG/DnD crossovers, one of the next Magic sets is supposed to Kamigawa Neon Dynasty. Kamigawa was a stereotypical eastern set with spirits, snakefolk, ratfolk, and kitsune set in the past. Neon Dynasty seems to be taking it into the modern era and maybe even Cyberpunk which could lead to more tech classes
A D&D hacker is just a full caster that's focused on utility (Scrying, Clairvoyance, Knock, Sending, etc.) and stays out of the thick of combat if at all possible: Divination Wizard or Knowledge Cleric probably being the best fits. (Throw in some Artificer levels if you also want them to be a gadgeteer.)
So, here's what I did with armorer to bypass armor restrictions: Step one: armor of shadows Eldritch invocation feat. Why? Because while it isn't an armor item, it literally says it's armor in the name. If your DM is fun at all, they will let you do this. Step two: re-flavor the gauntlets so that they come as the result of you equipping your mage armor. There is no mechanical difference. Don't get me wrong, at some point I absolutely want to play a goblin artificer battle Smith, and re-flavor the pet as a bike. Had that idea about a year and a half ago. Absolutely sounds fun. That being said, that makes a little bit more sense for Batman. Bat girl is much more of a monk.
Young Justice Cartoon Oracle is pretty cool and doesn't use Killing Joke as an origin (although i don't like the origin they went with either) but Young Justice is a damn good show regardless
Tbf your old Batman build worked really well too, since Lucius Fox is the guy who makes Batman his gadgets, his Artificer one might say, you could have the old build + the magic itens Lucius makes for you in exchange of money (he his your employee, you know).
Tulok: extra attack doesn't stack Me: yea, that sucks, hate dead levels Tulok: but bladesingers have the best version of extra attack for an eldritch knight to possess Me: *jaw slaps the floor.* "Why did I never think of that!?" Honestly that supergirl build just made my day, and now I wanna play it.
Re-watching some of my favorites, and had a thought: Signal, the Daytime member of the BatFam, an armorer artificer option with possible paladin, would need the minimum for boots of flying
Thought, Tulok has done both Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader, perfectly reasonable to eventually have Oracle be one of the characters he builds. That way people can reference the killing joke without things being awkward. Also, congrats on doing the impossible, you made Bladeward useful! In theory, you could do the same combo and make True Strike useful.
I am going to argue that every kryptonian should have a level or two of barbarian. Rage provides resistance to physical attacks but they still take the full force of magic
Tulok, you summed up my thoughts on Oracle/Killing Joke pretty well; I love Oracle as an evolution of Barbara's character but Killing Joke grosses me out and I don't think it's a necessary step to get there. Anyway, love the Batgirl build.
While I love the interaction of the Bladesinger and Eldrich Knight abilities, the wording of them does not seem to let you do what Tulok (or most of us) wishes they did (unless there has been some sort of official ruling that clarifies this specific ability interaction). Eldrich Knight - War Magic - when you use your action to cast a cantrip, you can make one weapon attack as a bonus action - Bladesinger - ...whenever you take the Attack action on your turn. Moreover, you can cast one of your cantrips in place of one of those attacks. - You seem to need to take the attack action to be able to use the Bladesinger ability, while you need to use your action to cast a cantrip to trigger the Eldrich Knight ability. Am I 'casting' to then fire off a cantrip, or am I attacking to ... cast a cantrip. In some way it IS splitting a hair, but, it is actually there in plain text, the letter of the law is against you/us, the spirit, is debatable. Sadly, the letter tends to win these things (houseruleings aside). I actually only noticed this when I started to create what I thought was going to be the best Sword and Spell gish character for 5e with those two classes and read the text of both abilities again, kinda shattered my dream!
Honestly nothing makes me happier than when I get to use older cartoons for footage so I had a lot of fun with this one
you did GREAT!!! Love the use of The Batman clips!!!
Seeing clips from "The Batman" was super nostalgic and fun to watch, so thanks for including them.
I just wish you could have thrown in some footage of the iconic Yvonne craig, the original Batgirll and of the live series Supergirl.
Gotta love getting to watch some DCAU shows and call it work
I forget you have been promoted from top commenter to editor
The phrase "I made Blade Ward useful!" is dripping with both power and menace and I love it
Killer Croc in the LEGO Batman movie.
"The basic human empathy was coming from inside the house." That is easily the single greatest line from any of your videos and you bet I'll be sharing that around the internet.
Just wish he knew what a SJW really was though. Because they're not what he thinks they are.
@@BJGvideos No, he is using the term exactly like basically everyone who unironically uses the term does, for the sake of the joke.
@@High-LordHarza You sure about that?
@@BJGvideos considering how wanting representation for anything from women to sexual and gender minorities wanting them to be represented well and take their opinions to heart is considered to be SJW, yeah.
@@High-LordHarza Only by nitwits who think SJWs in any way represent equality. SJWs aren't the people who work for equality. They're the people who DISTRACT from equality by inventing "issues" out of nothing instead of working to undo actual oppression.
I feel like there should be more infusions that are unique to Artificer Subclasses. I'd let any Battle Smith use an Infusion Slot to make their Defender Large so they don't have to use Concentration to keep it Large
That sounds like a good idea
Honestly, now i wanna play around with some ideas for the equivalent of this for the other subclasses.
100% agree. Always love when a core class ability is effected by what subclass you pick
Rats, I was kinda hoping to break Tulok by pointing out that Supergirl also becomes a Red Lantern, but with this build it's easy enough to tweak the spells to give more fire damage and include things like Bigbys for energy constructs. I was also going to point out that she trained for years in Kryptonian martial arts so monk should be included, but the unarmed fighting style plus the bladesong kinda covers that. Damn it, the build is so versatile that it's canonproof (and cannonproof).
"The basic human empathy was coming from inside the house"
Gave me the biggest grin
I saw this comment before that bit in the video and was so confused about what the context was
It was great.
In this digital age, Barbara’s computer skills make her the MVP of the Bat-family. Great call on the Artificer focus.
Is hers more than Red Robin's? I thought Tim was the tech genius
@@ChromaticJester They’re all tech geniuses, to a degree. Each member of the Bat-family is good at everything, but they all have one specialty in which the exceed Bruce himself. Tim’s is detective work. Barbara’s is computers.
@@kingdomkey01 thanks mate I'll go back and look at that again
I'd argue the Batgirl build here is viable for her time as Oracle too, so, y'know, good on you.
And I mean, the author of the Killing Joke thought it was fine as a standalone story. He didn't like that people saw it and went "This! This spectacle of sheer grotesquery and awful counterpointed by heroic determination but with an intentionally unclear ending is what ALL COMICS SHOULD BE!" and then spent the next two decades trying desperately to make all comics exactly like something that was supposed to be a particularly striking and upsetting one off.
Including trying to find ways to retroactively make the Killing Joke itself *worse* in its subject matter for that sweet sweet EDGE. And honestly, give me determined optimism over that any day.
The Killing Joke should have been taken with the same weight as Kingdom Come. Sometimes bad shit happens. Yet now it's like it happens all the time and also retconned because reasons...
Alan Moore also admits that he went too far and regrets how he handled Barbara in The Killing Joke (though he wasn't nearly as callous as the guy who signed off on it). While there's some good stuff in that graphic novel, like the Joker's origin story and his final confrontation with Batman with the "One Bad Day" speech and, equally as important, Batman's rebuttal, it's understandable to walk away from the book feeling icky and Moore does have a point when he says that his goal of making something that could be used as a conclusion of Batman and the Joker's story was pointless in the end considering their nature as long-running comic book characters whose stories will never end. The fact that what happened to Barbara happened is bad enough, but the book honestly handles it even worse than one might expect.
That said, imitators definitely managed to be worse because, like imitators of Moore's other famous dark and gritty graphic novel, Watchmen, they missed the point. Writers trying to imitate The Killing Joke's grittiness really seemed to lean into the Joker's twisted point of view in his "One Bad Day" speech that the world and everything in it is just absolutely grimdark even though Moore's point was that the Joker's beliefs are wrong and that the argument he makes actually falls completely on its face because the crux of his argument relied on him thinking he drove Gordon insane in a single day but, as readers see before the Joker even starts that speech and as Batman tells him, Gordon is still sane. Completely buying into the grittiness was the exact opposite of Moore's point.
@@aidanmorley3736 The issue is tho even if it was a mistake it made moves others were scared to do honestly. Looking at manga they ain't scared at times to have to finality. Like people get hurt, things change. DC/Marvel can't push. Alan Moore pushed. The one bad day concept is less on the Killing Joke yet look at the movie "Falling Down". The day is the breaking point yet a person has to fall far before snapping. Joker underestamated Gordon, like he's fell down some steps yet the wall stopped him.
Like here's a modern example very recent which is X-Men green it's like that 90's edge but with some current events yet it's so edgy it loops back into irony and only makes the heroes look villainous.
Babs becoming Oracle proves Moore's point that one bad day doesn't break you and it make her character more than another mook in filpping off buildings at night. It was harsh, hell yeah yet that's better then here's another batfamily kidnapping. They break themselfs out just as batman and one of the robins get there. Then they all kick Joker's teeth in for 5mins. Finally he's either locked up or he gets away via on last trick.
Comics play with edge in the worse way because you know it's a knife that can't cut it's too blunt.
i was gonna write a whole essay on the complex legacy of killing joke, about how the artform is really intricate and well made while the subject matter is super gross, but i’m glad other people addressed that
Fun fact: The Batman (as in, the cartoon most of the Batgirl footage here was pulled from) being my first significant exposure to the greater Batman mythos meant that I thought of Batgirl as Batman's primary sidekick (like, in general, not just on that show) for quite a while, as she was his first sidekick on that show. (Teen Titans was still on air when she was introduced, so my assumption is that possible confusion there was enough to keep Robin being introduced on the show for a while.) Yes, I was aware of "Batman and Robin" as a phrase. No, that didn't dissuade me.
That's not a fun fact, that's just a detail about your life. Certainly if I ever brought this information up myself in a conversation I would get blank stares, as anecdotes from a guy on the internet does not make for great small talk.
For those of you disappointed that you did not, in fact, get a fun fact from this comment in which you can casually toss out in passing to your family and/or friends this holiday season I present you with this as consolation trivia. The original Batgirl, or at least the Barbara Gordon version, while first debuting in comics in January 1963 she was initially conceptualized for the 60s Batman TV show but her television debut wouldn't be until later that year in September.
I did find that fact fun. Thank you!
She was not his first sidekick in Batman the Animated Series. Robin was introduced in the Second Episode, and was a fixture. Batgirl did not even show up till near the end of season 1, like 50 something episodes in.
@@DarthSoto78 Cool beans, that wasn't the show I was referring to in my post: you can tell because I said "The Batman," not "Batman the Animated Series." The Batman was a cartoon that ran from 2004-2008, and in *that* show, Batgirl was introduced in the first episode of season 3, and was a regular for a full season before Robin was introduced in the first episode of season 4. (I'd thought the gap between them was longer than that before I went to look up the specifics for this response, but it was still enough of a gap to leave an impact.)
Well, *I* certainly found that fact about your life fun.
19:00 - And if anyone tries to say "Supergirl doesn't have a sword! She cannot be a Bladesinger!" You just point to the CURRENT RUN in her comic where she.... is using a sword. (Honestly, I half expected a level Barbarian due to her time as a Red Lantern.)
She's just such a *fun* character. When she has writers who have clear ideas what to do with her it's always great.
Also, this channel refluffs classes and subclasses all the time, and Bladesinger doesn't require that you use a weapon, only that you *not* use a two-handed weapon (or armor, or a shield). Just call it a Kryptonian martial art she learned before the planet blew up, it's fine.
@@HeyLookASquirrl Supergirl is actually MAD flexible. And the combination of these two classes can be tweaked to account for EVERYTHING she's gone through/all of her power sets.
This is just too good.
I'm actually going to use this build for "Lore", Zod's Son from the Future, because it still fits.
Double Build December starting off strong. Get to see reflavors of old builds with extra helpings of mad genius to even make Blade Ward solid.
Thought we might get some triple multiclass cheese for Batgirl to Rogue to get the Expetise flex but Artificer is so strong and versatile already that it isn't really needed.
Supergirl is a much cleaner version of a Kryptonian without any homebrew and works very well. And that long attack combination explanation was very impressive and also makes Kara really scary at any range since you could devote purely to Firebolt for most of the attacks.
Lol using this for a homelander build lel. "Imma laser all of youuu!"
Supergirl is amazing. That casual Blade Ward resistance was just dripping with sauce.
Beautiful, just beautiful
Okay consider the following: Barbara uses some random Kyrptonian tech that her -GF- BFF hooked her up with to build a Transformer buddy that can turn into a motorcycle.
Does it have any basis in canon? No idea. Is it awesome? YES.
Yeah, their totally amazing friends...
"Running away is a fine strategy." After hearing that line, I'm really hoping for a Joseph Joestar build in the coming year!
These builds are the gifts that keep on giving. I mean bladeward being useful.
Also the basic human empathy joke killed me.
Please continue to go off on the Killing Joke. It makes me happy.
23:02 probably the best use of footage for the joke. A+
"The basic human empathy wqs coming from inside the house all along!" Fantastic Tulok
*The basic human empathy was coming from inside the house*
Tulok I love you. I just hope you know that >_
Eldritch Knight and Blade Singer are wonderful combinations. Love the super girl build
Came for the DnD content, Staying for the Basic Human Empathy ;)
the weird part of batman isn't his gadgets or his skills, t is just how easily he can teach different people from different backgrounds and settings how to use his skills
Okay, the "Basic Human EmpathyJoke" made me crack up. That line was actually genuinely funny. The builds of this channel are good, but so is the humor.
Fun Fact:
Technically, Supergirl is more powerful than Superman, due to her pod rotating a nearby star upon her and Kal-El’s escape from Krypton.
Also the fact she's older as well, which is why Powergirl needs some better storylines
Which is why I don’t understand why people don’t ask if Goku could beat Supergirl.
The best time on TH-cam is when you upload videos EVERYDAY!!!
Fun fact: Barbara Gordon as Oracle originated not in any Batman books, but in Suicide Squad! Kim Yale and John Ostrander, the book's writers, didn't like how Babs was treated in The Killing Joke and beyond (not so fun fact, when Alan Moore was asking his editors about the decision one guy legit said "Yeah, cripple the bitch" and probably was not fired for it) so they introduced a mysterious hacker named Oracle who breaks into the Squad's files and helps them out occasionally.
Blade ward being useful? God is real and his name is Tulock the Barbrarian
Oh Tulok, you’re the best :) This video was just tons of fun!
disparaging the killing joke and making supergirl a bladesinger? ooh, the comment algorithm on this one is gonna be spicy
I like. Need a chart for the supergirl options bit you did, listening to it pretzels my brain.
I forget which Ability Score you use to calculate your Passive Aggression, but whichever one it is, you are maxed out.
Hey. I know nobody is gonna read this, but thanks to Dark Knights of Steel, this build is looking terrific.
Fun fact: Gotham City is canonically in New Jersey. Yes, really.
*SPOILERS FOR YOUNG JUSTICE PHANTOMS*
I like how it's implied in the new season of YJ that instead of killing joke, it was Cass who did it when Barb took the hit instead of letting the joker get hit which caused her to become oracle. Cause killing Joke was yeesh.
i yelled "YES" when i saw this upload. perfect. i'd like to suggest damian wayne and the blue beetle! and zak saturday.
BeastMaster Ranger Zak Saturday
Damian- Fighter/Monk. Dueling/Great Weapon style for the katana (reflavoured longsword), Dedicated Weapon/Kensei to use DEX for it to be less MAD.
Blue Beetle (assuming Jaime Reyes)- Armorer Artificer/Hexblade Warlock. Artificer for infusions (Winged Boots, Mind Sharpener, Arcane Propulsion Armor); Hexblade for weapon creation.
@@kqwer19 oh no 😂
Tulok you've had a lot of great lines, but "the basic human empathy was coming from inside the house." Might be my favorite. Sad it has to exist but still.
Was not expecting a cross with The Incredibles during Batgirl's half. Well done. But surely magical capes are okay, right? "NO CAPES!"
I’m really looking forward to this month. These videos are going to be great.
Jesse Faden can also fly and deal fire damage. And if you want a character to pair her with for Double December, Control and Alan Wake take place in the same universe and are even tied together in a DLC, so Alan Wake could make for a fun partner build.
"I nailed that in one take; Mason can confirm."
Honestly, at that point, I was expecting you to just sing the lyrics, "And a partridge in a pear tree." XD
Who doesn’t like Babs? I have beef with you
Me: IKR she’s great
Aaaahhhh! The Wokeness! It buuuurns! Man I love Tulok.
22:23
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Extra Attack from multiple sources don't stack... after F11 when you take the extra attack you have to "choose" between the 3 attacks of fighter, or Bladesinger's 2 attacks (or 1+cantrip).
This would mean your action surge round is something like:
6 Attacks (Fighter)
3 attacks (Fighter) + 1 attack + cantrip (Bladesinger) + bonus action attack (EK)
OR
2 Attacks + 2 cantrips (Bladesinger) + bonus action attack (EK)
Having said all of that, i very much like your interpretation better, but mileage may vary based on the DM.
You could also argue that War Magic's wording "when you use your action to cast a cantrip" means that you have to use the Cast a Spell action to cast the cantrip, and Extra Attacks is part of an Attack action.
Idk what was better, the "I MADE BLADE WARD USEFUL!" or the "I did that in one take, Mason can attest." Tulok is powerful today folks
Thank you for using clips from The Batman, I feel it is a highly underrated show.
Can we see a Damian Wayne and Tim Drake build please? My family wants to do a Robin battle royal with your builds!
Is it wrong that I want to see Tooth Fairy AND the “Kangaroo” from Rise of Guardians as part of December 2021 double builds now? It can be a very good way to show off the two races from Beyond the Witchlight at once.
Call the Steel Defender....Ace the Bathound
You can acknowledge that Barbara's tenure as Oracle was a resounding success that ultimately did amazing things for her character AND that the Killing Joke is a raging dumpster fire that should never have been published let alone adapted into an even worse animated film.
Killing Joke worked better than some modern works where they set up something interesting and then "reset" the world right after the event. KJ had something bad happen and rolled with it for a while. The movie is DCAU's worse piece period
Due to how downtime works, and how we can make spell scrolls thanks to i think it is tasha's or some such. if you have arcana profficiency and use some money and time, you can store your spells as spell scrolls effectively giving you more prepared "gadgets"
Now all we need is a Huntress build (which should be easy -- rogue, hand crossbow, 700 sit-ups/day, done!) and you too can game as the OG Birds of Prey.
Batgirl and Tommy Oliver have the same class levels in their build.
Batgirl is a Power Ranger confirmed
These double builds are really making me want to see Breaking Character more and more
These double builds are fun, can't wait to see what else you have planned for this month!
"I made Blade Ward useful!"
Is this the greatest power in the universe?
I've built Supergirl as a Warlock/Paladin once. Then Jackson Crawford said you cannot smite with unarmed attacks.
What if your hand was in a gauntlet or natural attacks tho?
@@milanmarkovic2721 Then those work. My rule is simple, "if it uses a weapon attack roll.... it's a weapon." Jeremy Crawford has repeatedly gone against RAW with his Tweets, so I don't take the tweets as gospel.
reminds me of a story in one of the older editions, where a paladin found himself in bed with a shapeshifted devil, and being unarmed, figured out she wouldn't be armored on the inside. A... smite... send her running...
There is a subclass for that. Look up the Oath of Brilliance
*Jackson* Crawford said, "Loki is not Thor's brother". *Jeremy* Crawford said the bit about d&d. 😁
(Not trying to be a douche; I just happened to be reading one of Jackson Crawford's books atm)
Thank you for Kirk and Spock. Still pulling for Eglantine Price (Bednobs and Broomsticks), Winifred Sanderson (Hocus Pocus), Prince Voltran (Flash Gordon), Councilor Troi (Star Trek), Mary Poppins, and the Reverend Doctor Syn (The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh).
it would, currently anyway, require third party(probably combat wheelchair) but an oracle build would be very cool
I think a separate Oracle build could be fun to get a wheelchair Barbara
But admittedly Oracle isn’t a combat based character, and D&D characters are really tooled around doing some damage some how.
There’s not a “hacker” class, y’know?
But still, if you got an idea for it, I’d be excited to see it
Maybe we could get, like, a hacker subclass for artificer or rogue if WOTC ever decides to revisit techno magic
@@thegayghost872 I mean if they continue the MTG/DnD crossovers, one of the next Magic sets is supposed to Kamigawa Neon Dynasty. Kamigawa was a stereotypical eastern set with spirits, snakefolk, ratfolk, and kitsune set in the past. Neon Dynasty seems to be taking it into the modern era and maybe even Cyberpunk which could lead to more tech classes
A D&D hacker is just a full caster that's focused on utility (Scrying, Clairvoyance, Knock, Sending, etc.) and stays out of the thick of combat if at all possible: Divination Wizard or Knowledge Cleric probably being the best fits. (Throw in some Artificer levels if you also want them to be a gadgeteer.)
The Batgirl build actually sounds super fun!
Omg loved that Kara build, so wholesome!! I had no idea war magic and Bladesinger extra attack interacted that way!
Fantastic build. You are easily in my top 5 favorite creators on this app, possibly top 3.
Two double build videos, Tulok is now using his final form.
So, here's what I did with armorer to bypass armor restrictions:
Step one: armor of shadows Eldritch invocation feat. Why? Because while it isn't an armor item, it literally says it's armor in the name. If your DM is fun at all, they will let you do this.
Step two: re-flavor the gauntlets so that they come as the result of you equipping your mage armor. There is no mechanical difference.
Don't get me wrong, at some point I absolutely want to play a goblin artificer battle Smith, and re-flavor the pet as a bike. Had that idea about a year and a half ago. Absolutely sounds fun. That being said, that makes a little bit more sense for Batman. Bat girl is much more of a monk.
Great job on the Supergirl build. 💖 👍
Young Justice Cartoon Oracle is pretty cool and doesn't use Killing Joke as an origin (although i don't like the origin they went with either) but Young Justice is a damn good show regardless
Ah December. My 2nd favorite month.
Not for Santa.
For Tulok
Double feature for my birthday. I know it wasn't for me but I'm gonna thank you regardless.
5 new builds and 1 new subclass in less than a week! Did I die and somehow go to heaven without realizing it.
Okay so I'm not the only one noticing how good these videos have been recently. Excellent.
Tbf your old Batman build worked really well too, since Lucius Fox is the guy who makes Batman his gadgets, his Artificer one might say, you could have the old build + the magic itens Lucius makes for you in exchange of money (he his your employee, you know).
Mason confirming with a simple nod.... I'm not sure why, but it cracked me right up 🤣😂
Great video Tulok!
#BasicHumanEmpathy
This is the start to a wonderful month
Awesome, two of my favorite fictional ladies.
Tulok: extra attack doesn't stack
Me: yea, that sucks, hate dead levels
Tulok: but bladesingers have the best version of extra attack for an eldritch knight to possess
Me: *jaw slaps the floor.* "Why did I never think of that!?"
Honestly that supergirl build just made my day, and now I wanna play it.
Super girl was an incredible build. You've made such a great channel
On the (actual) first day of Christmas
My good Sr. Tulok brought me:
Two Crime fighting gals
And a lemur up in a pear tree!
I live in Kansas and yes we do run fast
Honestly, I'm loving the double builds. I only wish that one of them would have been max and monica from dark cloud 2
10/10 I adore this video. Keep up the fantastic work y'all!
about the Blade Ward thing, what you did was sneaky, underhanded, and downright distasteful......I loved it xD
Mason out here being the true hero of the video.
I gotta ask Tulok, How do you generate these wild character combos? Is there a team behind the screen or just one fabulous mad genius crafting these?
1 mad lad
Re-watching some of my favorites, and had a thought: Signal, the Daytime member of the BatFam, an armorer artificer option with possible paladin, would need the minimum for boots of flying
That Mason nod! I laughed out loud. Amazing!
Bladesinger eldritch knight kinda busted ngl
Great episode! Funny, inventive and just enjoyable
Thought, Tulok has done both Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader, perfectly reasonable to eventually have Oracle be one of the characters he builds. That way people can reference the killing joke without things being awkward. Also, congrats on doing the impossible, you made Bladeward useful! In theory, you could do the same combo and make True Strike useful.
The cut to and nod from mason made me giggle 😂
10th level Eldritch Knights ability is called Eldritch Strikes, not Arcane Strikes.
He thought we wouldn't notice...but we did
Level 13th artificer batgirl had the best part of the video.
The skilled feat is my favorite feat.
I am going to argue that every kryptonian should have a level or two of barbarian. Rage provides resistance to physical attacks but they still take the full force of magic
…you know you’re not wrong
Except a lot of Kryptonian powers are spell based, which means Rage would nerf them.
Tulok is my favourite D&D-related youtube-SJW that makes videos on how to build characters based on fictional characters.
He's not a SJW though and thank god for it. SJWs are the enemy of REAL social justice, full of double standards instead of equality.
Batcycle gets so many upgrades, i think she just stole the batmobile.
Tulok, you summed up my thoughts on Oracle/Killing Joke pretty well; I love Oracle as an evolution of Barbara's character but Killing Joke grosses me out and I don't think it's a necessary step to get there. Anyway, love the Batgirl build.
Also...I'd still love to see a Rukia Kuchiki build
"the basic human empathy was coming from *inside* the house"
Tulok, you sir, are my favorite
Coffee, my man! Lot’s of coffee. YOU CAN DO THIS!
While I love the interaction of the Bladesinger and Eldrich Knight abilities, the wording of them does not seem to let you do what Tulok (or most of us) wishes they did (unless there has been some sort of official ruling that clarifies this specific ability interaction). Eldrich Knight - War Magic - when you use your action to cast a cantrip, you can make one weapon attack as a bonus action - Bladesinger - ...whenever you take the Attack action on your turn. Moreover, you can cast one of your cantrips in place of one of those attacks. - You seem to need to take the attack action to be able to use the Bladesinger ability, while you need to use your action to cast a cantrip to trigger the Eldrich Knight ability. Am I 'casting' to then fire off a cantrip, or am I attacking to ... cast a cantrip. In some way it IS splitting a hair, but, it is actually there in plain text, the letter of the law is against you/us, the spirit, is debatable. Sadly, the letter tends to win these things (houseruleings aside).
I actually only noticed this when I started to create what I thought was going to be the best Sword and Spell gish character for 5e with those two classes and read the text of both abilities again, kinda shattered my dream!
I love DC Superhero Girls, which was rebooted with the help of Lauren Faust, just like G4 of MLP! TWILIGHT SPARKLE CONFIRMED!