The Good and The Beautiful! Pay this sweet momma!!🤣 Sold! I’ve been on the fence about what to use for LA for my rising 9th grader. This will be our last year of CC so It’s been hard to try and figure out what to use! I just want to thank you for all these beyond helpful videos! I’m the kind of person that needs the “visual “ component when having something explained. This momma thanks you big time! 💜
We have really enjoyed TGAB LA 1 this year for 9th grade. The units are SO BEAUTIFUL and well laid out! I really liked the charts you included and how you broke down each year based on the typical requirements for public school and what colleges want to see. As always, your high school content is just SO helpful!!
Oh my goodness, Colleen! You are AMAZING!!! The amount of wisdom and knowledge you just shared in this video is so helpful! We obviously aren't to high school yet, but Tanner is heading into middle school next year and I've been borderline freaking out! Seeing the layout for high school gives me vision and direction for the groundwork I need to lay.
Thank you so much for such a thorough and honest review! 💗 My daughter will be a senior this year and she is a little burnt out from Sonlight (she's also done IEW). She had a very rigorous junior year in which she chose to learn about 12 subjects, including two foreign languages (Japanese & Spanish), two instruments (violin & trombone), an AP computer course at the high school, driver's Ed, an honors music club, and studying for & taking the SATs 😮💨. She saw TGTB LA for the first time this year and really liked it and wants to do level 3, even though it might be technically considered an 11th grade class. We are planning to include all three honors studies in addition to the four books it includes, and possibly some more British and American literature because she also didn't think it was enough books for one year. I'd love to let her have this on her last year, after she's worked so hard, but I don't want this to affect her college eligibility. In your opinion, do you think the level 3, plus the three honors studies and another 3-6 classic books for the year, would be enough to make this a valid 12th grade language arts course? Thanks in advance if you can answer, I know this is not a new video. Blessings from Okinawa! 🙏🏼🌺
Yes, definitely it would be enough. Also TG&TB are all “high school” level, not graded so they can be done in any high school year. Year 3 is the best for last though because it includes some SAT and college prep writing.
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you for responding, I appreciate it very much! I’m so glad to hear that level 3 includes some SAT & college prep; I’m sure she’s going to enjoy it. I’m going to get level 2 for my 11th grade daughter and then she can just get the unit booklets for level 3 next year, since we’ll already have the books. I’m also going to try it out for my first grader this year. So excited to try out TG&TB and see what all the fuss is about 😊. Thanks again!
This is so helpful. I've been hesitant that TGATB would be enough for high school, but I love what you added and made it work for you. I'm still hesitant with the absence of the 4th year, but definitely leaning toward going this route.
We’ve done HS 1 and 2, and you’ve covered the curriculum BEAUTIFULLY! You have a knack for this. Since they were so delayed in getting year 3 released, I actually just ended up piecing things together for this year, and planned on doing year 3 next year.
I have to say I just love your videos! At first I was terrified watching them as a brand new homeschooler you just seemed to know so much and I felt like a fish out of water. Now that I am 8 months in I can appreciate them so much more. My oldest will be in 8th next year but this is great to watch- you are one of the few moms out there that post high school content. Thank you for all your hard work!
Thank you so much, Colleen! This video has helped me a ton! ALL of your videos have helped me not feel anxious about whether I'm doing enough for my daughter. I plan to use what you've done here except I plan to make the first year American Lit. We are using Notgrass' Exploring America for History which has 12 books of American Lit. I was thinking that combined ELA 1 course from TGAB would be a win. I would just skip the writing components in Notgrass to make sure not to overwhelm her. I'd love your thoughts on this!! 💕
@andreaharris8219 Hi there, I was wondering if your plan went "as planned." Did you stick to Notgrass Exploring America? Did you count the 12 books from Notgrass recommendations as Am Lit and still do TGTB ELA 1?
You make the best high school videos! You explain everything so throughly and it has definitely helped to put my mind at ease with our new adventure of homeschooling high school. Thank you for taking the time to make all these!! ❤️
Thank you so much Colleen! I am seriously considering TG&TB for my 9th and 10th graders, for next year. I really enjoyed how in depth that you made this review . Bless you!
Being an official "senior citizen", watching this video, you have inadvertently rekindled my love of Language Arts as a subject and writing papers. I didn't love writing till I was in college. But I think I will do my own relearning of the high school stuff. I even loved grammar. Friends used to call me the grammar police during my working years. Anyway, thanks for taking me on a trip down memory lane, even though that might not have been your intent.
YAY! I needed this one. Thank you for taking the time and being so thorough. I appreciated you showing us examples from the actual materials as well. We did the Essentials portion only of Classical Conversations for sixth grade. I felt that one year was great grammar instruction and I really wanted to carry that momentum forward this year in seventh grade. We have been using Level 7 of TGATB and are nearly finished, and I have been extremely pleased. I look forward to continuing on with their Language Arts. I agree the literature component is extremely important, so I think it is wonderful you added in extra books. Thank you for this.
That was fantastic! Thanks so much for explaining all the details about how you made it work for American/British/Honors. Those charts you made were really clear.
Thinking of doing this but skipping 1 and start on 2. I looked on site and no new High School releases (2023 and down). It takes a lot for them to create the Curriculum (us mamas know as we’ve been piecing together for years🤦🏼♀️). Getting excited 🤓
Yes, and Amen!! I've also used all three years of TGTB high school language arts and really wish they would come out with a fourth year. We've loved ever year so much. I recently contacted them, and there does not seem to be any concrete information on what's next or especially *when.* I guess I'm going to have to do something different for my daughter's senior year next year. Thanks so much for this video, Colleen....LOVED it so much! :) Blessings!
Thank you so much! ❤️. I really think they have put high school on hold for now in favor of the elementary subjects that they are updating. That seems to be where the big demand is.
@@simplejoyfilledliving I agree. When I asked them about it, they said they have different teams working on elementary and high school curriculum development, so I'm really not sure. I know there's a big demand (and need) for high school options, as well. Thanks again for your great content! :)
I've seen a few video's saying each year also counts as a half credit of geography and a half credit of art but I haven't see anywhere on the website that is mentioned and you didn't mention it either so I'm a little confused there. I appreciate how you explained things as this will be my first year with a high schooler and I am feeling way out of my depth. I haven't heard of needing British LA before either but perhaps it's a different states thing. So you answered lots of questions I had and gave me a few more to ponder. Great video all around.
Here are my thoughts: for art, count hours. If you can get 150 hours in art, you can count a credit. Or 75 hours counts as 1/2 credit. I doubt you get 1/2 credit per year but I bet you could claim 1 credit for years 1-3. You could also do the same for geography. For British lit/American Lit, go to your state board of ed and see what they require for high school graduation for public school. You may find that it is just 4 years of English. Then if your student is college bound, go to schools that you are interested in or go to several state schools and look for requirements for incoming Freshmen. This is where I found that colleges in our area require 1 credit British lit and 1 credit for American lit specifically.
I love seeing all the years and how you set them up, so organized!! My son is finishing up year 1 of tgatb! He struggles in English, so I have him do other writing that is at his level but I like the curriculum! :-)
It’s different. The writing is more varied and they are taught more than just writing persuasive papers. They do grammar and editing and a lot of other things. There’s less reading overall unless you add books to it like I did. We stopped Challenge in 9th grade and switched to this and preferred it. My daughter was well prepared for college level English and she completed them as dual enrollment her senior year.
Hi- entering this discussion late, lol. My 16-year-old son, who has been homeschooled since K, tried out public school last year for his freshman year. (He had some learning challenges early on due to dyslexia and ADD) All along he has struggled with grammar and writing. In PS he had some type of generic LA class. We are pulling him out of PS and bringing him back home for his 10th grade year. This will be my first homeschool high school experience and I am overloaded trying to decide what to use. My initial plan was to use IEW SSS 1C and Fix-it Grammar, plus Classical Academic Press Walking to WIsdom for British Lit. First of all, when I'm planning it all out, it seems like a LOT, especially considering his challenges. I had been thinking the IEW would be a good fit because it is so structured (although just guessing here because I've never used it.). But now after watching a few of your videos, I'm second-guessing my choices... and thinking about putting all of the above on hold and using TGTB. Another thought was to use TGTB along with using IEW at a slower pace. What do you think?
@@valleyhavenfamilyschool8951 it just depends on what you want to do. CAP/IEW is classical, while TG&TB is more Charlotte Mason inspired. We haven’t used CAP ourselves.
I truly appreciate your videos! You are a wealth of knowledge. I too am planning on using TGATB for high school. I just noticed on the geography card, Ecuador is misspelled.😬
Ok I need major advice. My daughter is in 9th grade and she’s doing online high school. But she is telling me that she’s not satisfied with her LA class. Especially the writing. She wants to major in English in university, God willing but she’s not receiving robust instruction on how to write papers. For 10th grade, I will take her out of this online school. But what writing/ LA do you recommend we do? I have seen IEW, EIW, BJU, TGTB…. But not sure where I should start or catch her up in…. Or what will be most beneficial for her. Can you recommend what you would do?
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you for such a speedy response!!But I do have have another question because I’m not familiar with LTW at all, why would LTW and TGTB combined be a good idea? I will definitely do my own research but would appreciate your input since you’ve familiar with these curricula. I do feel an intense feeling of anxiety over all of this, outsourcing subjects to online schools was not it for us, at the time I thought it was best so I can focus on my littles but this is such a problem now.
@@kita3256 I like LTW because at the high school level you can move through it quickly to pick up the persuasive writing style. TG&TB will teach all around writing so you could just use that, but LTW is very helpful too.
We will potentially be homeschooling our daughter starting in the fall for 11th and 12th grade. She will be doing US history in 11th grade, so we would like it to also be her American History year. As a junior, can she do TGAB year 2, and make her senior year Brit Lit with TGAB year 3? Or is year 2 specifically for sophomores and year 3 specifically for juniors?
Great, thanks! In rereading my question, I realized that I accidentally wrote American history instead of American literature. I meant to say that we want her junior year to be American literature, since she will be taking US history. I think you got the gist of my question though! Thanks again for your help!
My husband and I were talking about what we read in high school the other day and I found it so odd that he had never (and still hasn't) read Gatsby. I wonder if VA schools think its too inappropriate or something.
Hi My daughter is on 10th grade but will not finish her curriculum for physical science can I continue her curriculum for 11th grade or do I have to get another curriculum for 11th grade Thank you
You can definitely continue it, but you also need to check your state rules to see if she should also be starting another science in order to complete her graduation requirements.
Thanks! Usually I didn’t provide a prompt. I just told her to write a certain style of essay about the book (like persuasive) and I would give her a page or paragraph requirement.
Jumping on to this question to add...did you schedule the honors (extra) books out for her, or just let her read them and do a paper at the end? I typically schedule everything out so it gets done by the end of the year, and my students prefer it that way. I loved the detail you shared in this video about how you divide up the included readings, but was curious about the added novels. Thanks so much! ❤️
Thank for a very detailed overview! Could you share what one would need to add to complete senior year language arts if you're not doing an honors diploma? Thank you!
Thanks! 💕 There’s not really a standard senior year because by then you’re just finishing up the credits required to graduate. Check with your state for graduation requirements. I do have a video showing our entire transcript that might provide some ideas though: Homeschooling in High School: th-cam.com/video/DHIGJW5e2OM/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for this youtube video. It was so helpful for me when you broke down how to make it an American lit course, as well. How many credits did you assign for Geography per year? .5 credit? What about art?
These are great questions and I’ll answer with what I would do since we used Abeka for geography prior and didn’t need the credit and we had dance for fine arts and didn’t need art either. I would count hours for each. 75 hours= 1/2 credit, 150 hours = 1 credit. My guess is that after 3 years you would have at least 1 full credit each. If not, I would supplement enough to get the full credit if needed. Assign the credit to the year you gave enough time. So if you have 75 hours each year, assign 1/2 credit each year. Otherwise I would do 1 credit on the 3rd year after 150 hours if it works out that way. I hope this masked sense.
We are deciding on if we are going to do challenge 1 with CC or not but I was looking at TGTB LA and loved your video on it. Can you choose your own curriculum with CC challenge?
You can choose a different math curriculum with CC but anything else would make it very hard to participate in class. We used to do CC but left in the middle of 9th grade. I have a video on our experience if you’re interested. th-cam.com/video/fmY9OtsV9ao/w-d-xo.html
I have a silly question. I am looking to use the Good and the Beautiful I just need to know Does the good and the beautiful come with an answer key? Thank you in advance
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you 😊 I’m just asking because when I went to purchase the curriculum I never saw the answer key book or test booklets so I was confused. I was not sure if that was the bundle price or I had to buy for it separately.
I've been considering using one of these for my sister who will be in 10th grade next year, so thank you for thoroughly reviewing it and showing how it works!
Hi … great video. By the way, how long did your daughter take on the lessons each day? Approximately, how many pages daily? Did you do 4 or 5 day week? Thanks.
I scheduled her using homeschool planet for about 45 minutes 5 days per week but I allowed her to take each week and change it up as needed. So sometimes she would block schedule and spend 4 hours or so on one day and do the whole week. It depended on what the assignments were. But a good rule of thumb is 30 minutes to 1 hour per day, 4-5 days on weeks without longer papers. With the larger papers, much more time.
Thank you so much for this video! My son is not a huge reader 🥴. If he didn’t do the honors track would I still need to do 12 books and 12 papers for it to count as American Lit?
The years you added in American or British literature, did you count the class as 1 credit and honors or was it worth more credits? Thanks for sharing!
My 14 yr old daughter loves to write books (hopefully, she will actually finish one instead of just starting new ones 😂). Because of this & needing to eventually take the ACT or SAT, I was thinking about adding in Worldly Wise for some extra vocabulary work occasionally. After watching your video, I'm wondering if it would really be necessary. Any thoughts?
In my opinion, it would not be needed. Vocabulary is a really big focus in this curriculum. Although you could (if your plan to use it) purchase TG&TB first, review the vocabulary and then make the decision.
This video was very helpful. Thank you! It does appear like using IEW wouldn’t be an option, since you said the grammar and writing are mandatory to complete to these courses. Do you feel like the writing here is up to par with something like IEW?
The writing is actually very similar to IEW but they do include other types of writing as well. As far as the "elements of style" though, it is very similar. I think it would feel familiar to your student in that way. It did to Katie.
Hi! Thank you again for these reviews. I thought of another question and was hoping you could help. We currently use another writing program and my son wants to continue using this program in 9th grade. However, I love what I see in TGATB language arts highschool 1. Do you think it would be possible to use TGATB for language arts without using their writing program? Or does their writing program directly correlate to their literary analysis? I wouldn't want to lose the literary analysis piece if we skipped their writing lessons. Blessings to you and your home!
Can’t thank you enough for this video. There isn’t one video on u tube from a mama whose child has completed all 3 years of the LA. Did u give your daughter an credit for the art portion?
Thank you, I am so glad it helped! We did not faithfully complete all of the art and we did not need an additional elective credit so I did not issue an art credit. However, after completing the 3 years and completing the art projects you could easily issue a credit for art in that 3rd year. Count the hours spent on art (I would also include the art appreciation in each unit). 75 hours = 1/2 credit, 150 hours = 1 full credit. The same can be done for geography. We did not take the geography credit because my daughter had already done geography using Abeka. Therefore, we only issued 3 credits. English 1, 2, and 3 honors and we labeled English 2 as American Literature, and English 3 as British Literature based on the additional reading that I added.
They technically do not cover British Lit at all right now (all the current years are general years). They do have a future 1/2 credit elective class that has no estimated release date. We added British Lit it in 11th grade by choosing all the extra novels by British authors. We did the same in 10th grade for American Lit with Year 2. This took some advance planning but was very doable with this program.
That would work, or you could do year 1. The years aren’t high school grades. The main thing is to make sure you have 1 year of American literature and a year of British literature, however you do it.
So helpful! I have read in fb groups that tgatb's LA is 1 yr ahead of traditional public schools. In your experience, have you found this to be true? Thanks
About how long would you say Katie spent on this each day? And about how long do you think it would take if we did not do the honors track? Thanks so much for the video! Hugs from Ohio❤️
Katie spends 30 minutes to 60 minutes each day, depending on the assignment for the day. The units only take her about 2 weeks each to complete, and there are 10 units. So that leaves her plenty of time for the additional reading. We schedule her language arts in 2 week blocks, usually. 2 weeks for each unit, and 1-2 weeks for novels not included in the units, depending on how long the novel is.
We will be using TG&TB High School Year 1 next year along with the books and papers from Janice Campbell’s Excellence In Literature for an honors credit. I am looking forward to your video on Katie’s Senior year. I’m sure that is an emotional And rewarding time for you all!
@@wychefamily3454 we will use TG&TB HS year 1 as it is written. My son is a voracious reader and so he will read both the assigned books and honors books for the second year of Excellence in Literature and will complete a writing prompt from each of the EIL modules. We really enjoy EIL, he is completing the first year of it this school year. Even if you just use EIL for a booklist to include more classics from literature, you can’t go wrong. We are excited to add TG&TB for the great grammar and writing mechanics review. My son is also excited about the beautiful unit study books.
I think their long term plan is to release more high school curriculum. However they seem to have redirected their efforts on revising elementary language arts and math. They put out a lot of information on high school science about a year ago and then abandoned the idea for now.
The Good and The Beautiful! Pay this sweet momma!!🤣 Sold! I’ve been on the fence about what to use for LA for my rising 9th grader. This will be our last year of CC so It’s been hard to try and figure out what to use!
I just want to thank you for all these beyond helpful videos! I’m the kind of person that needs the “visual “ component when having something explained. This momma thanks you big time! 💜
So glad this video was helpful to you! ❤️
We have really enjoyed TGAB LA 1 this year for 9th grade. The units are SO BEAUTIFUL and well laid out! I really liked the charts you included and how you broke down each year based on the typical requirements for public school and what colleges want to see. As always, your high school content is just SO helpful!!
Thank you! ❤️
All your added book ideas and papers have sold me on continuing to use this curriculum into high school. I can't thank you enough for the information!
You are so welcome! 💕
Oh my goodness, Colleen! You are AMAZING!!! The amount of wisdom and knowledge you just shared in this video is so helpful! We obviously aren't to high school yet, but Tanner is heading into middle school next year and I've been borderline freaking out! Seeing the layout for high school gives me vision and direction for the groundwork I need to lay.
Thanks friend! ❤️
Thank you so much for such a thorough and honest review! 💗 My daughter will be a senior this year and she is a little burnt out from Sonlight (she's also done IEW). She had a very rigorous junior year in which she chose to learn about 12 subjects, including two foreign languages (Japanese & Spanish), two instruments (violin & trombone), an AP computer course at the high school, driver's Ed, an honors music club, and studying for & taking the SATs 😮💨. She saw TGTB LA for the first time this year and really liked it and wants to do level 3, even though it might be technically considered an 11th grade class.
We are planning to include all three honors studies in addition to the four books it includes, and possibly some more British and American literature because she also didn't think it was enough books for one year. I'd love to let her have this on her last year, after she's worked so hard, but I don't want this to affect her college eligibility. In your opinion, do you think the level 3, plus the three honors studies and another 3-6 classic books for the year, would be enough to make this a valid 12th grade language arts course?
Thanks in advance if you can answer, I know this is not a new video. Blessings from Okinawa! 🙏🏼🌺
Yes, definitely it would be enough. Also TG&TB are all “high school” level, not graded so they can be done in any high school year. Year 3 is the best for last though because it includes some SAT and college prep writing.
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you for responding, I appreciate it very much! I’m so glad to hear that level 3 includes some SAT & college prep; I’m sure she’s going to enjoy it. I’m going to get level 2 for my 11th grade daughter and then she can just get the unit booklets for level 3 next year, since we’ll already have the books. I’m also going to try it out for my first grader this year. So excited to try out TG&TB and see what all the fuss is about 😊. Thanks again!
I’m looking forward to any dual enrollment videos you share. How you researched, what you considered, etc.
Coming soon!
This is so helpful. I've been hesitant that TGATB would be enough for high school, but I love what you added and made it work for you. I'm still hesitant with the absence of the 4th year, but definitely leaning toward going this route.
We did dual enrollment this year for 12th and it was a very smooth transition from the 3 years of TG&TB.
We’ve done HS 1 and 2, and you’ve covered the curriculum BEAUTIFULLY! You have a knack for this.
Since they were so delayed in getting year 3 released, I actually just ended up piecing things together for this year, and planned on doing year 3 next year.
YES, I also add in other classic novels. That was my issue with the curriculum, too!
I’m glad you made it work for you this year. I had Katie read the extra novels and plays this year before year 3 was released so it worked out.
I have to say I just love your videos! At first I was terrified watching them as a brand new homeschooler you just seemed to know so much and I felt like a fish out of water. Now that I am 8 months in I can appreciate them so much more. My oldest will be in 8th next year but this is great to watch- you are one of the few moms out there that post high school content. Thank you for all your hard work!
Thank you! ❤️
Thank you so much, Colleen! This video has helped me a ton! ALL of your videos have helped me not feel anxious about whether I'm doing enough for my daughter. I plan to use what you've done here except I plan to make the first year American Lit. We are using Notgrass' Exploring America for History which has 12 books of American Lit. I was thinking that combined ELA 1 course from TGAB would be a win. I would just skip the writing components in Notgrass to make sure not to overwhelm her. I'd love your thoughts on this!! 💕
Thanks for your kind comments! 💕 I love your plan; it should work really well!
@andreaharris8219 Hi there, I was wondering if your plan went "as planned." Did you stick to Notgrass Exploring America? Did you count the 12 books from Notgrass recommendations as Am Lit and still do TGTB ELA 1?
Thank you so much!!!! I’m homeschooling my high school students for the first time next year and needed this!!!!
So glad it helped!
Thank you so much for sharing how you supplemented with other books and papers!
You’re welcome!
You make the best high school videos! You explain everything so throughly and it has definitely helped to put my mind at ease with our new adventure of homeschooling high school. Thank you for taking the time to make all these!! ❤️
You’re welcome! ❤️ I’m so glad it helped!
Thank you so much Colleen! I am seriously considering TG&TB for my 9th and 10th graders, for next year. I really enjoyed how in depth that you made this review . Bless you!
Thank you! ❤️
Being an official "senior citizen", watching this video, you have inadvertently rekindled my love of Language Arts as a subject and writing papers. I didn't love writing till I was in college. But I think I will do my own relearning of the high school stuff. I even loved grammar. Friends used to call me the grammar police during my working years. Anyway, thanks for taking me on a trip down memory lane, even though that might not have been your intent.
I loved grammar in high school but didn’t enjoy writing until college either. Thanks for watching! ❤️
YAY! I needed this one. Thank you for taking the time and being so thorough. I appreciated you showing us examples from the actual materials as well. We did the Essentials portion only of Classical Conversations for sixth grade. I felt that one year was great grammar instruction and I really wanted to carry that momentum forward this year in seventh grade. We have been using Level 7 of TGATB and are nearly finished, and I have been extremely pleased. I look forward to continuing on with their Language Arts. I agree the literature component is extremely important, so I think it is wonderful you added in extra books. Thank you for this.
Thank you! ❤️
That was fantastic! Thanks so much for explaining all the details about how you made it work for American/British/Honors. Those charts you made were really clear.
Thank you! ❤️
I was just lookin at this program for my rising freshman. Thank you so much!!!
You're so welcome! ❤️
Thinking of doing this but skipping 1 and start on 2. I looked on site and no new High School releases (2023 and down). It takes a lot for them to create the Curriculum (us mamas know as we’ve been piecing together for years🤦🏼♀️). Getting excited 🤓
You can really start with any of them.
Yes, and Amen!! I've also used all three years of TGTB high school language arts and really wish they would come out with a fourth year. We've loved ever year so much. I recently contacted them, and there does not seem to be any concrete information on what's next or especially *when.* I guess I'm going to have to do something different for my daughter's senior year next year. Thanks so much for this video, Colleen....LOVED it so much! :) Blessings!
Thank you so much! ❤️. I really think they have put high school on hold for now in favor of the elementary subjects that they are updating. That seems to be where the big demand is.
@@simplejoyfilledliving I agree. When I asked them about it, they said they have different teams working on elementary and high school curriculum development, so I'm really not sure. I know there's a big demand (and need) for high school options, as well. Thanks again for your great content! :)
Thank you for this level of detail on how to make a course an honors-level! Appreciate all your hard work!
You’re welcome! ❤️
I don’t even have a high schooler yet but this video was so informative! Thank you
Your welcome, thank you for watching! ❤️
Can you tell me how much time and what is required of the parent each week? Please and thank you!
It would vary greatly by child. For me less than an hour in reviewing work and recording grades.
Thank you so much!! This is so helpful. I just ordered this curriculum for my daughter who will be in 9th grade 😬 I am looking forward to it.
Glad it was helpful! We have a "do a lesson with me" style video with TG&TB high school language arts going up tomorrow.
@@simplejoyfilledliving great! That is so helpful. I will be on the lookout for that 😁
I've seen a few video's saying each year also counts as a half credit of geography and a half credit of art but I haven't see anywhere on the website that is mentioned and you didn't mention it either so I'm a little confused there. I appreciate how you explained things as this will be my first year with a high schooler and I am feeling way out of my depth. I haven't heard of needing British LA before either but perhaps it's a different states thing. So you answered lots of questions I had and gave me a few more to ponder. Great video all around.
Here are my thoughts: for art, count hours. If you can get 150 hours in art, you can count a credit. Or 75 hours counts as 1/2 credit. I doubt you get 1/2 credit per year but I bet you could claim 1 credit for years 1-3. You could also do the same for geography. For British lit/American Lit, go to your state board of ed and see what they require for high school graduation for public school. You may find that it is just 4 years of English. Then if your student is college bound, go to schools that you are interested in or go to several state schools and look for requirements for incoming Freshmen. This is where I found that colleges in our area require 1 credit British lit and 1 credit for American lit specifically.
Thank you really like how you broke it down to add American Literature and British Literature. Great ideas and presentation 👍🏽❤️
Glad it was helpful!
I agree, BRING US YEAR 4. Not all of our kiddos will do Duel so we need this📚❤️📚
Really makes no sense why Year 4 was eliminated!
I love seeing all the years and how you set them up, so organized!! My son is finishing up year 1 of tgatb! He struggles in English, so I have him do other writing that is at his level but I like the curriculum! :-)
Thanks! ❤️
Great explanation Colleen!! TGATB would love to hear this review😍
Thanks! 💕
Thank you! I really hope they make a year 4
My understanding is that they don’t plan to since so many students that age do dual enrollment.
Thanks so much for sharing! This was such a thorough review. Very helpful!
Thank you! ❤️
Would you say that this curriculum is comparable to or at a higher standard than Classical Conversations Challenge levels?
It’s different. The writing is more varied and they are taught more than just writing persuasive papers. They do grammar and editing and a lot of other things. There’s less reading overall unless you add books to it like I did. We stopped Challenge in 9th grade and switched to this and preferred it. My daughter was well prepared for college level English and she completed them as dual enrollment her senior year.
@@simplejoyfilledliving Wonderful thank you! What other things did you do for a community? A lot of people join CC for this.
@@VW777 we got together a local group of homeschoolers and we did science labs and field trips together.
@@simplejoyfilledliving Thank you 😊
Hi- entering this discussion late, lol. My 16-year-old son, who has been homeschooled since K, tried out public school last year for his freshman year. (He had some learning challenges early on due to dyslexia and ADD) All along he has struggled with grammar and writing. In PS he had some type of generic LA class. We are pulling him out of PS and bringing him back home for his 10th grade year. This will be my first homeschool high school experience and I am overloaded trying to decide what to use. My initial plan was to use IEW SSS 1C and Fix-it Grammar, plus Classical Academic Press Walking to WIsdom for British Lit. First of all, when I'm planning it all out, it seems like a LOT, especially considering his challenges. I had been thinking the IEW would be a good fit because it is so structured (although just guessing here because I've never used it.). But now after watching a few of your videos, I'm second-guessing my choices... and thinking about putting all of the above on hold and using TGTB. Another thought was to use TGTB along with using IEW at a slower pace. What do you think?
I would do just TG&TB considering his challenges. It’s a full writing program. Adding IEW would be like doing 2 writing programs.
@@simplejoyfilledliving so do you think that TGTB is a better choice than my original plan (IEW/CAP)?
@@valleyhavenfamilyschool8951 it just depends on what you want to do. CAP/IEW is classical, while TG&TB is more Charlotte Mason inspired. We haven’t used CAP ourselves.
I truly appreciate your videos! You are a wealth of knowledge. I too am planning on using TGATB for high school. I just noticed on the geography card, Ecuador is misspelled.😬
Thank you! ❤️. I didn't notice the misspelling when filming! Hopefully that has been corrected by now. We bought the cards 3 years ago.
Your high school videos are so helpful.
Thank you! ❤️
Ok I need major advice. My daughter is in 9th grade and she’s doing online high school. But she is telling me that she’s not satisfied with her LA class. Especially the writing. She wants to major in English in university, God willing but she’s not receiving robust instruction on how to write papers.
For 10th grade, I will take her out of this online school. But what writing/ LA do you recommend we do?
I have seen IEW, EIW, BJU, TGTB…. But not sure where I should start or catch her up in…. Or what will be most beneficial for her.
Can you recommend what you would do?
At that level, I would combine TG&TB with LTW.
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you for such a speedy response!!But I do have have another question because I’m not familiar with LTW at all, why would LTW and TGTB combined be a good idea? I will definitely do my own research but would appreciate your input since you’ve familiar with these curricula. I do feel an intense feeling of anxiety over all of this, outsourcing subjects to online schools was not it for us, at the time I thought it was best so I can focus on my littles but this is such a problem now.
@@kita3256 I like LTW because at the high school level you can move through it quickly to pick up the persuasive writing style. TG&TB will teach all around writing so you could just use that, but LTW is very helpful too.
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you!!!🙏🏼 blessings
We will potentially be homeschooling our daughter starting in the fall for 11th and 12th grade. She will be doing US history in 11th grade, so we would like it to also be her American History year. As a junior, can she do TGAB year 2, and make her senior year Brit Lit with TGAB year 3? Or is year 2 specifically for sophomores and year 3 specifically for juniors?
All 3 years are high school level and it doesn’t matter which year you do them.
Great, thanks! In rereading my question, I realized that I accidentally wrote American history instead of American literature. I meant to say that we want her junior year to be American literature, since she will be taking US history. I think you got the gist of my question though! Thanks again for your help!
Hi, what kind of language arts curriculums did you do before high school one please ? And were you pleased with them ? Thank you 😊
I talk about that in this video: th-cam.com/video/YEHDP-0hQa8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for a very informative video. I have a question. What did you name each course on the transcript? Thank you in advance! Blessings!
English 1, English(American), English 3 (British) and for dual enrollment the name the university gave it.
Thank you once again for your reply. Very helpful. Have a blessed day!
Do these courses focus on the fundamentals and elements of literature?
Yes and if you want to dig deeper, they also have book studies that are helpful too.
Thank you! I very much appreciate your videos.
What were you using for history alongside this curriculum?
We used Abeka for World Geography, Economics, and Government, and Masterbooks for World History & American History.
Hi Colleen, where do you buy most of your novels from? Thank you!!
Usually I get them on Amazon.
This helps a lot!!! Thank you so much for sharing.
I’m so glad! ❤️
My husband and I were talking about what we read in high school the other day and I found it so odd that he had never (and still hasn't) read Gatsby. I wonder if VA schools think its too inappropriate or something.
Maybe so. It appears on many of the high school lists I reviewed. And I remember reading it too.
Ooo it’s so cool to see the Hudson Valley Unit which is where I’m from!
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Hi
My daughter is on 10th grade but will not finish her curriculum for physical science can I continue her curriculum for 11th grade or do I have to get another curriculum for 11th grade
Thank you
You can definitely continue it, but you also need to check your state rules to see if she should also be starting another science in order to complete her graduation requirements.
When you add papers (with the added novels), do you provide writing prompts yourself? Thank you! Your videos are so helpful!
Thanks! Usually I didn’t provide a prompt. I just told her to write a certain style of essay about the book (like persuasive) and I would give her a page or paragraph requirement.
Jumping on to this question to add...did you schedule the honors (extra) books out for her, or just let her read them and do a paper at the end? I typically schedule everything out so it gets done by the end of the year, and my students prefer it that way. I loved the detail you shared in this video about how you divide up the included readings, but was curious about the added novels. Thanks so much! ❤️
Thank for a very detailed overview! Could you share what one would need to add to complete senior year language arts if you're not doing an honors diploma? Thank you!
Thanks! 💕 There’s not really a standard senior year because by then you’re just finishing up the credits required to graduate. Check with your state for graduation requirements. I do have a video showing our entire transcript that might provide some ideas though: Homeschooling in High School:
th-cam.com/video/DHIGJW5e2OM/w-d-xo.html
This was an excellent review. Loved it. Thank you!
Thank you so much! ❤️
Thank you for this youtube video. It was so helpful for me when you broke down how to make it an American lit course, as well. How many credits did you assign for Geography per year? .5 credit? What about art?
These are great questions and I’ll answer with what I would do since we used Abeka for geography prior and didn’t need the credit and we had dance for fine arts and didn’t need art either. I would count hours for each. 75 hours= 1/2 credit, 150 hours = 1 credit. My guess is that after 3 years you would have at least 1 full credit each. If not, I would supplement enough to get the full credit if needed. Assign the credit to the year you gave enough time. So if you have 75 hours each year, assign 1/2 credit each year. Otherwise I would do 1 credit on the 3rd year after 150 hours if it works out that way. I hope this masked sense.
@@simplejoyfilledliving Thank you
We are deciding on if we are going to do challenge 1 with CC or not but I was looking at TGTB LA and loved your video on it. Can you choose your own curriculum with CC challenge?
You can choose a different math curriculum with CC but anything else would make it very hard to participate in class. We used to do CC but left in the middle of 9th grade. I have a video on our experience if you’re interested. th-cam.com/video/fmY9OtsV9ao/w-d-xo.html
I have a silly question. I am looking to use the Good and the Beautiful I just need to know Does the good and the beautiful come with an answer key? Thank you in advance
Yes it does include an answer key for the unit work and the exams. There are also grading rubrics for papers so you know how I grade them.
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you 😊 I’m just asking because when I went to purchase the curriculum I never saw the answer key book or test booklets so I was confused. I was not sure if that was the bundle price or I had to buy for it separately.
It’s a download that you get once you purchase.
@@simplejoyfilledliving ok that makes sense thank you so much 😊
I've been considering using one of these for my sister who will be in 10th grade next year, so thank you for thoroughly reviewing it and showing how it works!
So glad the video was helpful! ❤️
Hi … great video. By the way, how long did your daughter take on the lessons each day? Approximately, how many pages daily? Did you do 4 or 5 day week? Thanks.
I scheduled her using homeschool planet for about 45 minutes 5 days per week but I allowed her to take each week and change it up as needed. So sometimes she would block schedule and spend 4 hours or so on one day and do the whole week. It depended on what the assignments were. But a good rule of thumb is 30 minutes to 1 hour per day, 4-5 days on weeks without longer papers. With the larger papers, much more time.
@@simplejoyfilledliving thank you.
Thank you so much for this video! My son is not a huge reader 🥴. If he didn’t do the honors track would I still need to do 12 books and 12 papers for it to count as American Lit?
If you don’t do honors, just follow what TG&TB says in the course. It ends up being a total of 7-8 books and the included papers (about 10).
So you are saying if I do the course as is and just add 2 or 3 more books by American authors I can call the whole course American Lit?
@@torbertfamilyclips4089 yes, but make sure that the extra 3 novels are from American writers. Year 1 or 2 work best for American lit.
You have helped me so much!! Thank you! 😊
Are the grammar cards the same ones that the ones for level 7? Thank you dear for sharing such a valuable information.
I don’t think so. But the cards you use for high school are used fir all 3 years.
The years you added in American or British literature, did you count the class as 1 credit and honors or was it worth more credits? Thanks for sharing!
I was advised to do it as 1 honors credit on transcript as English 2 (American Lit).
My 14 yr old daughter loves to write books (hopefully, she will actually finish one instead of just starting new ones 😂). Because of this & needing to eventually take the ACT or SAT, I was thinking about adding in Worldly Wise for some extra vocabulary work occasionally. After watching your video, I'm wondering if it would really be necessary. Any thoughts?
In my opinion, it would not be needed. Vocabulary is a really big focus in this curriculum. Although you could (if your plan to use it) purchase TG&TB first, review the vocabulary and then make the decision.
This video was very helpful. Thank you! It does appear like using IEW wouldn’t be an option, since you said the grammar and writing are mandatory to complete to these courses. Do you feel like the writing here is up to par with something like IEW?
The writing is actually very similar to IEW but they do include other types of writing as well. As far as the "elements of style" though, it is very similar. I think it would feel familiar to your student in that way. It did to Katie.
Hi! Thank you again for these reviews. I thought of another question and was hoping you could help. We currently use another writing program and my son wants to continue using this program in 9th grade. However, I love what I see in TGATB language arts highschool 1. Do you think it would be possible to use TGATB for language arts without using their writing program? Or does their writing program directly correlate to their literary analysis? I wouldn't want to lose the literary analysis piece if we skipped their writing lessons. Blessings to you and your home!
You could probably skip some of the writing projects but some of them are tied to the literature.
@@simplejoyfilledliving Good to know...Thank you!😊
You’re welcome!
Can’t thank you enough for this video. There isn’t one video on u tube from a mama whose child has completed all 3 years of the LA.
Did u give your daughter an credit for the art portion?
Thank you, I am so glad it helped!
We did not faithfully complete all of the art and we did not need an additional elective credit so I did not issue an art credit. However, after completing the 3 years and completing the art projects you could easily issue a credit for art in that 3rd year. Count the hours spent on art (I would also include the art appreciation in each unit). 75 hours = 1/2 credit, 150 hours = 1 full credit. The same can be done for geography. We did not take the geography credit because my daughter had already done geography using Abeka. Therefore, we only issued 3 credits. English 1, 2, and 3 honors and we labeled English 2 as American Literature, and English 3 as British Literature based on the additional reading that I added.
What year do they cover British lit?
They technically do not cover British Lit at all right now (all the current years are general years). They do have a future 1/2 credit elective class that has no estimated release date. We added British Lit it in 11th grade by choosing all the extra novels by British authors. We did the same in 10th grade for American Lit with Year 2. This took some advance planning but was very doable with this program.
Can you start with year 2 (10th) if you did IEW for 9th?
That would work, or you could do year 1. The years aren’t high school grades. The main thing is to make sure you have 1 year of American literature and a year of British literature, however you do it.
So helpful! I have read in fb groups that tgatb's LA is 1 yr ahead of traditional public schools. In your experience, have you found this to be true? Thanks
The lower levels of TG&TB are a grade level ahead but high school seems to be right on track.
This is so helpful thank you ❤️
Thank you! 💕
About how long would you say Katie spent on this each day? And about how long do you think it would take if we did not do the honors track? Thanks so much for the video! Hugs from Ohio❤️
Katie spends 30 minutes to 60 minutes each day, depending on the assignment for the day. The units only take her about 2 weeks each to complete, and there are 10 units. So that leaves her plenty of time for the additional reading. We schedule her language arts in 2 week blocks, usually. 2 weeks for each unit, and 1-2 weeks for novels not included in the units, depending on how long the novel is.
When you say you schedule her language arts in 2 week blocks does that mean she works on the unit every day for 2 weeks?
So helpful! Thank you!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching! 💕
Cool, I never hear much s out TGATB in High school.
Best review. Thank you so much.
Thank you! ❤️
You gave some good information about the Mormon / Christian debate. Nice.
Thanks. It comes up a lot.
We will be using TG&TB High School Year 1 next year along with the books and papers from Janice Campbell’s Excellence In Literature for an honors credit.
I am looking forward to your video on Katie’s Senior year. I’m sure that is an emotional And rewarding time for you all!
Thank you! ❤️ Love your plan!
This is for Kristy - this sounds like a nice plan. How do you use the two together?
@@wychefamily3454 we will use TG&TB HS year 1 as it is written. My son is a voracious reader and so he will read both the assigned books and honors books for the second year of Excellence in Literature and will complete a writing prompt from each of the EIL modules. We really enjoy EIL, he is completing the first year of it this school year. Even if you just use EIL for a booklist to include more classics from literature, you can’t go wrong. We are excited to add TG&TB for the great grammar and writing mechanics review. My son is also excited about the beautiful unit study books.
That was the same thought I was having about TGTB - was that the literature was too “Christianese” and I want my children to read all the classics.
Blending the two together worked pretty well for us.
I’m surprised that the good and the beautiful aren’t doing many high school curriculums.
I think their long term plan is to release more high school curriculum. However they seem to have redirected their efforts on revising elementary language arts and math. They put out a lot of information on high school science about a year ago and then abandoned the idea for now.