The true definition of a narcissist. “I did this because you hurt me” “i didin’t want to hurt you, but you made me do it” “It’s your fault I did this” so glad Ariana is free!
As a Therapist, I’m not fully convinced he is narcissistic. He may have some traits like many do. But he’s showing empathy and accountability. He seems to be really regretful and broken. Which we know narcissists can be depressed from a place of “The world doesn’t see how great and fantastic I am.” perspective. But his seems to show some level of care but a lot of confusion in understanding his motivations. She is completely emasculating! She seems very pathological in the way she speaks to him and if their relationship was made up of any semblance of that then she may be the narcissist. Or very emotionally and mentally abusive. These are just my thoughts based on watching a few videos. So I’ll do more digging to see if my opinion changes.
@@jadeblackwell6227 Yeah, that does seem to fit into all this. Bc I have read through many comments about this and it seems that so many take her side. I feel that could be related to social biases bc society many times struggle to recognize that men too are abused. And abuse comes in many forms that aren't visible on the physical body. I have found it intolerable to watch her say such cruel things and everyone backing her and she still feels this amount of anger and shows so much disrespect. She surrounds herself with a terrible group of friends who don't correct her when she's wrong so she feels justified in everything she does and says. This behavior seems to consistent for times when she doesn't get her way. Her emotional, anger outbursts are way too extreme for the situation. I certainly empathize, understand and relate to the hurt and humiliation, but I too wonder the role she has played in all of this. She takes pleasure in being a victim.
Tom sandavol and Rachel should not have done what they did but when Ariana looked at Tom and say why didn’t he leave and he says because you threatened to take your own life, she responded with something like “yeah I did you should have called my friends and left me” I don’t understand why more people aren’t talking about this because that’s so serious, if the shoe was on the other foot and under any circumstances Tom leveraged him wanting to her himself he would have been absolutely torn apart beyond anything that happening to him now because people would see that as controlling,but for some reason when Ariane threatens her life no one flinches Tom said he tried to break up with her multiple times, I think she could have left, said to her self hey I’m at a point where I’m threatening to end my life if someone leaves me maybe I should work on my self abit and consider how that could drive a wedge in my relationship, Tom had a harder decision to leave because he had her life hanging over his head, she could have left she didn’t have anyone threatening to take they’re life if she did, emotional leverage can make people feel cornered i feel even a therapist would say that’s text book pushing someone away. But also this is just a opinion I think that there was more than a kiss between Tom and Ariana when him and Kristen were together, it’s like Lala calling someone else a mistress, it just doesn’t sit right once you have all the details.
@@CuriousCat777 Agreed 👍 Nothing wrong with that. Besides, Ariana already wasted 9+ years of her life with a bozo so it's ok to move on to a new relationship with no regrets.
She stole him then. And, now the same is being done to her. No shocker. That’s how it works. And, she loved his potential- besides he was on the show. Not her !!!! She wiggled her way in just like Rachal.
He's the same person he's always been. I loved how they were showing flashbacks to him acting the exact same way with kristen. I can't believe people thought arianna would be different.
Dr Phil stated that the bulk of affair stating relationships never go the distance because they were started on lust not love & respect. And, he stated that most husband (87%) when caught cheating want to stay with their wife NOT the mistress. I think this is why tom is pissed he was caught.
Exactly the same lie Ariana told others when she started having an affair with Tom while he was living with his prior girlfriend.. Guess Karma has come 2 bite her on the butt now...
You can tell that Tom really built up how bad his relationship is to him in order to do the unspeakable of having an affair. It’s a complex psychology around how a person justifies having an affair instead of really forcing a direct conversation about their unmet needs in a relationship.
Yes, and unfortunately, he did the exact same thing with Ariana when he was with Kristen. And you can go and watch how terrible their relationship was play out, but for Tom to use that as an excuse to cheat, was as terrible then as it is now.
Agree. In 10 years, both of them had changed a lot. Now women look at him with admiration, any man would love that. Then he comes home to this nagging hobo in sweatpants that commands him “you should be grateful to me, I was with you since you were nobody, I remember who you are - a nobody. They only like you for what you have now”. Basically, reinstating that he has no value in this relationship, she is way above him and always was, so of course he is going to seek out women that validate his self-esteem and prove another. You have to accommodate and be interesting to the current version of your partner, otherwise you will just drift apart and both find other friends that make them feel like home.
"That girl is looking for identity in men because she has no identity." The definition of truth hurts. She slayed them both. She could have just followed up with (Tom) you're nothing more than a fleeting identity to anyone and left him quietly with those thoughts.
No she isn’t . Not for me . She is a liar . And she is doing it all for fame . Get it through your head ! These are reality stars making money off of your feelings. She is still living with Tom . She never moved out . She used this story line to her advantage. This happened to others on that show in a way worse situation. And to other women on other Bravo shows who were married and had kids ! And you think she is speaking out for other women? That’s a joke! She is making a mockery of real victims out there ! All these people on here sleep with each other and pay the consequences. This show is beyond disgusting and she is no innocent person herself. She has bullied people on that show and humiliated others on there.
Ariana had an affair with Tom to get on the show. You lose them the way you get them. The fact she threatened to take her life when Tom tried to break up with her, shows she’s just as much of a narcissist as everyone else on the show.
@@abnormallycarolyn She has these people fooled. This woman has treated Tom like a red headed step brother. She's been talking to Tom like crap and has only slept with him 4 times in a year.
@@michellelively202 how is that relevant to this situation? Did SHE ever cheat ON him? The answer is no. Why are Sandoval defenders bringing this up? Oh and if we're going to bring up LaLa and Ariana hooking up in the back seat of a car, please bear in mind that Tom was also in the car and was watching. He didn't object nor was he outraged. Lastly, Kristen cheated on Tom and they were done. Ariana has never sunk to the depths that Tom Sandoval has and Rachel wasn't his first foray into cheating while with Ariana. Netz here excusing the cheater while excoriating the victim are total shites.
He’s blaming everything on her. This is so typical. This is why I’m so reluctant to get married. You can go through periods of busy-ness or even have a baby and a man will blame you for not being completely available to him. But when he goes through periods of busy-ness he expects the woman to understand and remain faithful. I can’t do it. They flip too often. I’d rather just be bf/gf then anyone can leave when they’re no longer satisfied without all the legal stuff.
Well if you treat people like Arianna then don't. You can't cut a man off from intimacy & treat him like crap. She only slept with him 4 times in a year.
Men always switch up dear. The best tip is to fkn ignore them like the dirt on your show. They grow up real fast when you do. Otherwise if you feed into their switch up you lose.
They're both to blame they just weren't they weren't acting like it was a full-on actual relationship😊 Yoshi minute she was bisexual and she slept with lala last year that's a form of cheating so she wasn't hundred percent true to what you were saying and yes he acted on what he did
This isn’t typical at all. It means you’ve found yourself a shi***man who doesn’t believe in monogamy or marriages. It’s really important from the outset to find someone who shares your views and morals, you can’t mold someone into what you want. Someone who already did selfish, doesn’t believe in monogamy, etc will show these signs early on often.
Tom spent more time putting energy into defending how real and meaningful his connection is to Raquel than mending the broken heart of the person before him (who he was supposed to be committed to for like a decade together). He took it as an opportunity to defend his adultery by victimzing himself and blaming Ariana for relationship problems that made him seek out Raquel. Total gaslighting. It speaks volumes. All he cares about is himself. He is too vapid and egotistical to even understand how truly wrong he is. He gives a blanket apology bc of cameras and social expectation, but he doesn't actually care about Ariana. If he did, he would've never yelled at her like that, bc he would've had empathy for the grief he caused her, and he certainly wouldn't have gotten so heated to do so in defense of the person he cheated with. People like Tom are the worst, bc you spend so much time investing yourself in a person you believe is genuinely in love with you, when their concept of love is self-serving and shallow. They're only as nice and invested in you, as you don't inconvenience them. True love isn't conditional like that. Period. Exclamation.
"he doesn't actually care about Ariana" proven by how he chose to humiliate her with the t-shirt comment at the reunion! that's when the real tom jumped out
Right. He cried with Raquel about it, with Schwartz, with Scheana, even with LVP. But not with Ariana. Her he shouts at. That tells you everything you need to know about how little he cares about her.
Tom was a slime .. but Ariana was no saint ... both of them used this young girl 4 their own needs.. Raquel did wrong yes, but she at least apologized .. more than I can say 4 either of them.. or 4 that matter, none in this group are saints .. most have done the same, if not worse & were not treated like dirt like they ganged up on Raquel ... it was disgusting the things they said 2 her...disgusting
This episode made me dislike him even more. He’s a tool. He secretly loves this scandal. The audacity to say the affair is her fault because she didnt stalk/follow him around (he said it in the scene with Schwartz) And if he calls people “dude” one more time-. She’s glowing without him now
She is hurting and she is going to take time. She is going to go through many stages because it is natural during grief. She may go into a mistake relationship because she is getting old and may be getting desperate. Unfortunately, she may even marry a loser because that is the only thing she may feel is gonna come her way, but goodness I hope not. I wish her well.
The part that hurts me the most is that Ariana was legit the ONLY girl willing to deal with Tom, and actually saw a future with him, actually thought about kids and marriage at one point.... and he treated her like garbage
@@Takobellabut she didn't know Kristen was cheating. Watching season 2 and 3 is insane, how they treat Kristen. And yea, Kristen is faaar from perfect, but the way Ariana and Tom treated her after the breakup was horrible
I love how he uses the word "selfish", just like we saw Rachel use it at the Reunion preview. They were hyping each other up that the worst thing they did was being selfish LOL the actual audacity these demons have
Cheating is bad enough but cheating with a friend is the betrayal part. Ariana and Schena was getting closer to her, telling her that “you are one of us” and gave her grace by all the while cheating. This is messed up on all levels!
I’m so sorry I just did some research and this is not the same as Tom and Arianna kissing behind Kristen’s back, Tom was fuxking this girl who was friends with Arianna behind her back and it happened several times??… please lmk if I’m on track I’m just trying to understand what all the buzz is about. Thank you in advance.
This scene is very powerful and relatable and can be a life lesson to others. People are smarter now and thank goodness that therapy has become more accessible to cope and handle this kind of situation in life.
The way Tom had an affair with one of her best friends says a lot about him as a person. Not only that, but the way he's refusing to take accountability and acting like a victim makes him look like a narcissist, however, when he told Ariana that he wanted to leave it's clear that she got issues as well. She didn't deny refusing to let him leave so they had issues beyond Raquel.
If you can’t work or don’t want to work through it then you he has to leave. He wanted the easy way out. As Sheena said “you end it “ and “we will pick up the pieces”. This Dude has no strength whatsoever and his next girlfriend should consider the way she got him the way she will loose him.
Tom never takes accountability in any situation an loves to shame his friends for even the smallest mistake they may make. He’s the most self-righteous being I’ve ever come across.
When you really think about how far Tom and Rachel’s relationship went, the manipulation, lies and sneaking around it’s actually really really sickening.
@@deeparao-tw2oe it doesn’t matter how you got him is how you lose him regardless it’s called respect that’s disgusting literally living and sleeping in the same bed Tom and Kristen did Ariana got what she deserved which is karma but instead of karma she got Raquel
I read a Bravo source says Tom asked Bravo to film this scene again because he was worried it painted him in a bad light. Then threatened to quite the show when they refused. Go ahead Tom, quit. No one cares. *Edit: It may have been the scene with Rachel. Either way…
Seems about right and would not surprise me. Maybe that’s why he was so upset at Lisa’s about not getting to talk to Ariana again. He wanted a do over on that scene 🤔
@@9crimes87 No, Bravo refused to refilm the scene! I was wrong though, it was the scene of him and Rachel he wanted to refilm. That whole Tom/Rachel scene was super cringey and personally I thought she looked awful.
I agree, they never seemed like endgame material to me. They have disagreements on the most fundamental things in the progression of a relationship like marriage and children (not that either one are necessary to stay with someone but both parties should be in full agreement). But I never would’ve guessed that Tom would do something so slimy to her and then try to gaslight everyone into thinking his affair was somehow justified.
@@notalithiumbarbiedoll3535 Also as people, they seemed ill matched (and could have worked through it, but didn't). She is a homebody; he likes going out. He seems very emotionally fragile/ immature; she is more stoic. I remember very early on them saying they are each others' soulmates which I think is what did them in. That's cute when you're young but as you get older, you have to tackle relationship challenges and be honest about what is going to drive happiness for all parties.
I really assumed the new storyline are the Tom's admitting undying love. Popped out of closet. Never dreamed current situation. Both Toms,rachett and Scheana prove who they are.
Does anybody remember the fact that Ariana slept with Tom while he had a girlfriend. They kept asking them and they kept lying gaslighted tf out of her ! Nobody deserves the kinda pain cheating causes but if you slept with somebody that cheats why would ever in life think they’ll be loyal to you?! 👏🏾
Thank you, Ariana was sleeping with Tom when he was in a relationship with Kristen. And Ariana was nasty to her and laughing at her. She didn't like it when it was done to her, but it's okay for her to do it to other women. She is such a hypocrite. She was the mistress. I remember everything and I saw every episode. And now she's acting like a victim when she did it to other women karma.
1000% Ariana is so boring and she needs to stop, So negative since she started on the show, it’s clear she hated Tom I personally think she used him to get on the show, also she at least kissed Tom when he was with Kristen (I think they fucked personally) and then you enjoyed watching while you made everyone think Kristen was crazy, also you covered for your Tom when he fucked Miami girl, you knew what you were getting into and you LOVE the attention your getting from it, none of these people like Ariana they just want a band wagon of hate to jump on, also apparently when they had the conversation on the sofa and tom said “I tried to leave you and you wouldn’t let me” that was about her threatening to take her own life. So what kind of position did she put him in with that, she’s toxic
Ariana is a hypocrite. She was having an affair with Tom when he was in a relationship with Kristen. And she used to laugh right in her face. She was very mean and nasty but now she wants pity when she did it to another woman, the nerve of her. What a hypocrite.
Me being someone that was in a five-year relationship that ended when they cheated everything that Thomas saying is the exact same thing that they said after they cheated it’s crazy how people can cheat and justify their behavior.
This relationship was doomed from the moment she told him she won't marry him and she doesn't want kids. That's major difference and something you can't work on. It was matter of time.
It wasn't like she just told that now. She made it clear from the beginning he knew it and it wasn't a surprise. He was just dirty and he can make up all the excuses HE WAS WRONG.
They were not right together from the beginning a blind person could see this he wanted things in life she didn't want,his mates were married,having or thinking about kids she didn't want any of that.
I never watch the show before, but I definitely agree with you and if someone is not on the same page with you and then break up instead of cheating on a person, especially with their best friend, but from what I see, I don’t think they were ever best friends in the first place
Totally agree, they were on different pages from day one. What he did was low down and dirty, it was one of her closest friends. However, she’s moved on fast and in a new relationship. I feel they were stretched to the limit in a relationship lacking in many things.
Ariana's calm and poised composure despite having just recently learned of the betrayal is such a stark contrast to Katie's loud, ugly name calling explosion in the last episode. Ariana is a true queen 👑
Lmao its so unnecessary to put someone down in order to give someone else praise. What katie was dealing with was also a completely different situation. Both katie and arianas situations are rage inducing but for katie that was built up for years. I wonder how calm youd be in the face of your soon to be ex husband doing what you've always expressed to him made you feel like garbage. Literally what did katie even do that was unwarranted?
@em. It's a show, all of these people are open to judgment! Why shouldn't it be applauded that Ariana is so much classier for how she dealt with her partner of 9 years betraying her versus Katie's ridiculous obsession of her EX-HUSBAND, god forbid, kissing another girl. Her reaction is laughable and it should be pointed out.
@@geminola_23 youre free to do that and people are free to respond to your criticism. She was never upset that he kissed a girl. She was upset because they had a conversation and had come to an agreement in order for them to stay friends. Shwartz is the one who said it was so important to him that they stay friends and the ONE thing katie asked of him, he couldnt do (which is a pattern in their relationship). And when katie made the decision to no longer be friendly as according to their agreement, he acted surprised and Sandoval called her entitled. People who willfully misinterpret why katie was upset because they don't like her are free to do so, i never said otherwise. He completely disrespected her and she reacted how she did. 12 years of buildup vs an unexpected betrayal is different.
Maya's ears are so expressive she is constantly adjusting them. she seems so perfect and wonderful and almost fell asleep standing up she is very comfortable with ari
Oh my.. I’ve been a fan since day one.. Truly sorry that this is how things turned out.. I remember the early days when Tom had a conscience.. Is it truly a midlife crisis? And still no remorse.. Just sorry he got caught.. It’s amazing how intellectually you can speak to Tom in spite of it all.. Truly impressed with your choices at describing your feelings.. it’s heartfelt and I wouldn’t worry.. You have an amazing future ahead of you.. Sending best wishes always ❤
I don't feel sorry for Ariana. Was she not cheating with Tom when he was still dating Kristen? Tom has a huge Ego, fancies himself as a player. Rinse repeat, onto the next. I'm so glad I've chose the single life from now on.
Ariana did it to Kristen. And she used to laugh in her face. And now she's trying to act like she's so surprised at Tom cheated on her when she helped him cheat What a hypocrite. It's OK for her to be the mistress. Everybody better remember how she got on the show by sleeping with Tom while he was in a relationship what a hypocrite.
I stopped keeping up with this show about five years ago and always thought their relationship was weird, no chemistry. I’m surprised it lasted this long tbh. He’s a nut.
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 no bc Kristen was cheating on Tom while complaining about him and Ariana was trying to go to therapy, work on her depression and have quality time with him to fix their intimacy issues. Not exactly the same situation
they kissed once while he was with Kristin - he fucked her bestfriend for 7 months behind her back then blamed her for it….I don’t think the situations are similar at all.
I’ve been debating confronting a guy that lied to me about being married. This just goes to show that that would a waste of my time. When someone has no remorse, that’s just it, they have no remorse. Not worth it
My heart goes out to Ariana, he wounded her and for that he's contemptible. But this conversation they're having is very powerful and we all stand to learn a thing or two from it. When you live with a man and you're both not intimate for years, that's a major issue. They shouldn't have turned a blind eye and wasted years in a toxic partnership. The best of us are addicted to sweeping things under the rug. Their relationship was doomed but I wish it had ended differently.
I think him and Rachel deserve one another. They both have identity issues. It's so sad. He's what 40 something and thinks like her. I feel so sorry for them both. Their both lost.
What's really creepy and sick is when she says you two were smiling in my face and Rachel still acting like her friend and him sleeping with the women that she thought was her friend and he doesn't see the betrayal in it is astonishing. Here when Jax slept with Kristen he cried you were my friend and broke hode is wild that he doesn't see why Arianna feels so hurt that someone she thought was her best friend him being her man and best friend and that little girl with identity issues and his little groupy doing this in her face without her knowing it's a slap in the face and they were playing laughing about it behind closed doors thinking they were so good at deceiving her and everyone else. His lucky Tom Swartz owns the bar too because of anyone still goes to their bar itlll only be because of him not this man child. Give me a break she wouldn't let you go. Grow a pair and leave anyways. You brought Arianna down. She'll be so much better and do so much better once you exit her life. Do us ask the favor and go to your number one fan that feeds your ego before someone gives her something better then you. Rachel isn't a catch but she has had good luck with men but I don't understand she went lower instead of higher. Your suppose to move on to something better not worse but then again she hasn't going herself yet or maybe she did with this tool of a man child. I can't wait to see Ariana man. He's gonna need everything Tom couldn't be for her. She was there through his tough times but couldn't pull her out of here because he was too busy being selfish screwing his fan that tells him what he wants to hear right now. I feel really sorry for. Tom. Lol
She is feeling the betrayal that Kristen felt. She is even wishing him death same Kristen did for her. Alt the end , you can literally drive someone crazy if you know him well enough to push their buttons. It is scary
Coming back to this it’s just painfully sad that everything they built together is now gone. They went from that disaster apartment to the beautiful home which we know probably cost them so much money in LA. All gone because of bad decisions and selfishness. No it’s sad and to anyone who’s ever been through it I hope you have find peace and light in your life. You deserve nothing but love of self and others!
If Tom wasn’t feeling wanted in the relationship anymore he should have left her. This is where people go wrong, they cheat and become the monsters. Ariana didn’t want to sleep with him anymore and she thought he would be ok with that. Ariana should have let him go. He slept with that woman in the guest room of their house while Ariana was sleeping. That to me is low and the ultimate disrespect. Raquel and Tom are foul creatures for that
Rewatching this now and seeing how hilarious it is that he thinks him and Raquel have a "deep connection" and now she's suing him. All she was for him was an ego boost for his midlife crisis.
Ariana we all see who you are and how kind, non judgmental and down you are. Your fans (us, we, me)! See your beauty inside and out. You show the world how amazing you are. They both did you a favor. I personally think that’s why she broke her engagement off with James. She set her sights on Tom then and yes, she ingratiated herself into your life to get closer to Tom
Does anyone realize these excuses he’s been giving for the affair are pretty much exactly what he said to Kristen when he was cheating on her with Arianna! Watch the reruns it’s fascinating!
😅😅😅😂 good catch. Why would she ask him when next he's gonna see her lol 😅 I maintain that she knew he was f outside just maybe didn't expect it to be with a bff ... these types do it all the time, allow the partner to f outside so long as it's quiet but once they're stupidly busted they then have to do something about it. That's why she's reacting so weirdly and him too 😅
I feel you, girlfriend! Have said and heard these exact words from my narcissist. He’s gaslighting and trying to shift the narrative, like they do. He’ll never change, never be happy, ruin lives, and cause much misery before he’s done. Hold your head high, Queen. Otherwise your crown will fall. PS: he’s never going to be sorry and he can’t feel anything in his “soul.” He has no conscience or empathy. None whatsoever
How Sandoval had the audacity to yell at her when HE GOT CAUGHT CHEATING. What a pig 🐖
And blame her for not following him
Classic behaviour. People will be enraged (with themselves) and take it out on another person when they get caught.
He ran the full DARVO (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender)
It was bound to happen, he’s cheated in his last relationship..
They all cheat and then yell about it. What’s new. Maybe the show should be “ the vanderpump cheaters.
The true definition of a narcissist. “I did this because you hurt me” “i didin’t want to hurt you, but you made me do it” “It’s your fault I did this” so glad Ariana is free!
As a Therapist, I’m not fully convinced he is narcissistic. He may have some traits like many do. But he’s showing empathy and accountability. He seems to be really regretful and broken. Which we know narcissists can be depressed from a place of “The world doesn’t see how great and fantastic I am.” perspective. But his seems to show some level of care but a lot of confusion in understanding his motivations. She is completely emasculating! She seems very pathological in the way she speaks to him and if their relationship was made up of any semblance of that then she may be the narcissist. Or very emotionally and mentally abusive.
These are just my thoughts based on watching a few videos. So I’ll do more digging to see if my opinion changes.
@@eas40753 she is very emotionally abusive, and VERY manipulative. Tom said she threatened to kill herself if he broke up with her…
@@jadeblackwell6227 Yeah, that does seem to fit into all this. Bc I have read through many comments about this and it seems that so many take her side. I feel that could be related to social biases bc society many times struggle to recognize that men too are abused. And abuse comes in many forms that aren't visible on the physical body.
I have found it intolerable to watch her say such cruel things and everyone backing her and she still feels this amount of anger and shows so much disrespect. She surrounds herself with a terrible group of friends who don't correct her when she's wrong so she feels justified in everything she does and says.
This behavior seems to consistent for times when she doesn't get her way. Her emotional, anger outbursts are way too extreme for the situation. I certainly empathize, understand and relate to the hurt and humiliation, but I too wonder the role she has played in all of this. She takes pleasure in being a victim.
Tom sandavol and Rachel should not have done what they did but when Ariana looked at Tom and say why didn’t he leave and he says because you threatened to take your own life, she responded with something like “yeah I did you should have called my friends and left me” I don’t understand why more people aren’t talking about this because that’s so serious, if the shoe was on the other foot and under any circumstances Tom leveraged him wanting to her himself he would have been absolutely torn apart beyond anything that happening to him now because people would see that as controlling,but for some reason when Ariane threatens her life no one flinches Tom said he tried to break up with her multiple times, I think she could have left, said to her self hey I’m at a point where I’m threatening to end my life if someone leaves me maybe I should work on my self abit and consider how that could drive a wedge in my relationship, Tom had a harder decision to leave because he had her life hanging over his head, she could have left she didn’t have anyone threatening to take they’re life if she did, emotional leverage can make people feel cornered i feel even a therapist would say that’s text book pushing someone away. But also this is just a opinion I think that there was more than a kiss between Tom and Ariana when him and Kristen were together, it’s like Lala calling someone else a mistress, it just doesn’t sit right once you have all the details.
@annelyceyawingu6678 We have had good dialogue here you may enjoy.
“That girl is searching for identity in men, she has no identity of her own.” That is so perceptive of Ariana and sums Raquel up and her actions.
Ariana got into a new relationship like 2 seconds later.. just saying. She didn't stay single long soo...
@@midwestnewsgurlnothing wrong with that. People grieve at different rates
@@CuriousCat777 Agreed 👍 Nothing wrong with that. Besides, Ariana already wasted 9+ years of her life with a bozo so it's ok to move on to a new relationship with no regrets.
@@yaniselgarcia2596she didn't want to intimate w him most of the time in their relationship and got a new man just 5 mis later? She's hypocrite
@@blondequeen1779what so it’s okay for him to cheat her
When she said, "I loved you then, when you had nothing..." I felt that 😢
Yes💯 many of us had been through that at one point😢
She stole him then. And, now the same is being done to her. No shocker. That’s how it works. And, she loved his potential- besides he was on the show. Not her !!!! She wiggled her way in just like Rachal.
@@michellelively202 literally
Dude no one cares about a woman who is loyal to her man from the beginning when they had nothing. Makenzie and Jeff Bezos. Huge example.
Did he cheat with Arianna from his previous partner? I don’t feel bad for her. It’s karma on her
It's not scary when a woman is yelling. It's scary when they are as calm and composed as Ariana, given the situation.
This is so true!!!!!
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Exactly. If you can be calm you can develop a sick plan .props to her
Exactly
Yup, be very afraid. 😊
She’s calm but getting her point across.
I’m shocked the way Tom acted . After a while , the masks always come off . I hope Arianna heals peacefully.
She will because unfortunately she's gonna get so strong from this pain
The fact you are shocked by how he acts is what shocks me. He literally did and spoke this way to Kristan
Will Kristen and him had a crazy relationship to
He's the same person he's always been. I loved how they were showing flashbacks to him acting the exact same way with kristen.
I can't believe people thought arianna would be different.
@Nastassia smith the flashbacks to old Kristen episodes were amazing 😂😂 like watching a rerun LOL. He's been this way 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
It’s not a friendship . ITS A FULL BLOWN AFFAIR.
Dr Phil stated that the bulk of affair stating relationships never go the distance because they were started on lust not love & respect. And, he stated that most husband (87%) when caught cheating want to stay with their wife NOT the mistress. I think this is why tom is pissed he was caught.
Exactly the same lie Ariana told others when she started having an affair with Tom while he was living with his prior girlfriend.. Guess Karma has come 2 bite her on the butt now...
@@MaryQueen-x3sshe didn’t have an affair with Tom when he was with Kristen she kissed him once
Tom saying that him and Rachel respect each other as he (they) DISRESPECTS tf out of Ariana af.
So true 😢
It’s asinine
The irony
Right !!!! Disgusting AF !!!
Right like how is he going to blame Ariana for HIS wrongdoing
You can tell that Tom really built up how bad his relationship is to him in order to do the unspeakable of having an affair. It’s a complex psychology around how a person justifies having an affair instead of really forcing a direct conversation about their unmet needs in a relationship.
What unmet needs? Ariana really had Toms back, he’s just scum for this. He didn’t have unmet needs. He got bored, that’s it.
Na he's just a prick
Yes, and unfortunately, he did the exact same thing with Ariana when he was with Kristen. And you can go and watch how terrible their relationship was play out, but for Tom to use that as an excuse to cheat, was as terrible then as it is now.
Agree. In 10 years, both of them had changed a lot. Now women look at him with admiration, any man would love that. Then he comes home to this nagging hobo in sweatpants that commands him “you should be grateful to me, I was with you since you were nobody, I remember who you are - a nobody. They only like you for what you have now”. Basically, reinstating that he has no value in this relationship, she is way above him and always was, so of course he is going to seek out women that validate his self-esteem and prove another. You have to accommodate and be interesting to the current version of your partner, otherwise you will just drift apart and both find other friends that make them feel like home.
He need GROWING UP, but right now, he speaks as a 19 yo, to his HS sweetheart....
"That girl is looking for identity in men because she has no identity." The definition of truth hurts. She slayed them both. She could have just followed up with (Tom) you're nothing more than a fleeting identity to anyone and left him quietly with those thoughts.
1:35 Tom “Do you want anything? 🤷🏻♂️”
Adriana: “…For you to DIE 🪦⚰️💀”
Me: Yikes! 😳🫣
Yeah at that point don’t even be in the same space together it’s not worth it ! It’s over
😂😂😂
The world would be a happier place if it happened
@@adamjustadam reported! Get a life seriously it’s a reality tv show
@@sammyp9514 you should join tom too. in real life !
Ariana is speaking for so many people …..powerful stuff there. Great job!
She is mad bc she realizes he never loved her bc she was “special “. The narcissist is a liar. And, she cheated w him as he lied to Kristen. Come on
No she isn’t . Not for me . She is a liar .
And she is doing it all for fame . Get it through your head !
These are reality stars making money off of your feelings.
She is still living with Tom . She never moved out .
She used this story line to her advantage.
This happened to others on that show in a way worse situation. And to other women on other Bravo shows who were married and had kids !
And you think she is speaking out for other women?
That’s a joke!
She is making a mockery of real victims out there ! All these people on here sleep with each other and pay the consequences.
This show is beyond disgusting and she is no innocent person herself. She has bullied people on that show and humiliated others on there.
Ariana had an affair with Tom to get on the show. You lose them the way you get them. The fact she threatened to take her life when Tom tried to break up with her, shows she’s just as much of a narcissist as everyone else on the show.
@@abnormallycarolyn lmaooooooooooooo "take her own life" mhm
@@abnormallycarolyn She has these people fooled. This woman has treated Tom like a red headed step brother. She's been talking to Tom like crap and has only slept with him 4 times in a year.
This show needs an Emmy for this scene alone. She was ferociously fucking badass but in the most calm and collected way. She is a legend!
Yes🏆
"I would have followed you anywhere."
I lost it there. 😭
It seems like he doesn’t want to take ownership of the betrayal. Trying to explain it is futile without responsibility
typical narcissist
@@mantronixtube Indeed
Neither does she. She cheated w him the same way behind Kristen’s back.
@@michellelively202 how is that relevant to this situation? Did SHE ever cheat ON him? The answer is no. Why are Sandoval defenders bringing this up? Oh and if we're going to bring up LaLa and Ariana hooking up in the back seat of a car, please bear in mind that Tom was also in the car and was watching. He didn't object nor was he outraged. Lastly, Kristen cheated on Tom and they were done. Ariana has never sunk to the depths that Tom Sandoval has and Rachel wasn't his first foray into cheating while with Ariana. Netz here excusing the cheater while excoriating the victim are total shites.
Because she knew about it
The way he calls her "dude" just infuriates me!!!
He called Lisa dude too. But she checked him QUICK!
The way he calls everyone dude infuriates America.
@@deecohen1383 oh yea that was priceless!!!!
@@ramonagaerin258 yep!
Because they r friends / roommates not lovers.. I’ve heard young couples call each other bro , good luck 2 them
"I lost my mojo" is the most insane excuse ever.
He’s blaming everything on her. This is so typical. This is why I’m so reluctant to get married. You can go through periods of busy-ness or even have a baby and a man will blame you for not being completely available to him. But when he goes through periods of busy-ness he expects the woman to understand and remain faithful. I can’t do it. They flip too often. I’d rather just be bf/gf then anyone can leave when they’re no longer satisfied without all the legal stuff.
So so true 💯💯
Well if you treat people like Arianna then don't. You can't cut a man off from intimacy & treat him like crap. She only slept with him 4 times in a year.
Men always switch up dear. The best tip is to fkn ignore them like the dirt on your show. They grow up real fast when you do. Otherwise if you feed into their switch up you lose.
They're both to blame they just weren't they weren't acting like it was a full-on actual relationship😊 Yoshi minute she was bisexual and she slept with lala last year that's a form of cheating so she wasn't hundred percent true to what you were saying and yes he acted on what he did
This isn’t typical at all. It means you’ve found yourself a shi***man who doesn’t believe in monogamy or marriages. It’s really important from the outset to find someone who shares your views and morals, you can’t mold someone into what you want. Someone who already did selfish, doesn’t believe in monogamy, etc will show these signs early on often.
Tom spent more time putting energy into defending how real and meaningful his connection is to Raquel than mending the broken heart of the person before him (who he was supposed to be committed to for like a decade together). He took it as an opportunity to defend his adultery by victimzing himself and blaming Ariana for relationship problems that made him seek out Raquel. Total gaslighting. It speaks volumes. All he cares about is himself. He is too vapid and egotistical to even understand how truly wrong he is. He gives a blanket apology bc of cameras and social expectation, but he doesn't actually care about Ariana. If he did, he would've never yelled at her like that, bc he would've had empathy for the grief he caused her, and he certainly wouldn't have gotten so heated to do so in defense of the person he cheated with. People like Tom are the worst, bc you spend so much time investing yourself in a person you believe is genuinely in love with you, when their concept of love is self-serving and shallow. They're only as nice and invested in you, as you don't inconvenience them. True love isn't conditional like that. Period. Exclamation.
Wow perfectly said!! And appreciate your use of the word vapid!! That was awesome.
"he doesn't actually care about Ariana" proven by how he chose to humiliate her with the t-shirt comment at the reunion! that's when the real tom jumped out
Right. He cried with Raquel about it, with Schwartz, with Scheana, even with LVP. But not with Ariana. Her he shouts at. That tells you everything you need to know about how little he cares about her.
Tom was a slime .. but Ariana was no saint ... both of them used this young girl 4 their own needs.. Raquel did wrong yes, but she at least apologized .. more than I can say 4 either of them.. or 4 that matter, none in this group are saints .. most have done the same, if not worse & were not treated like dirt like they ganged up on Raquel ... it was disgusting the things they said 2 her...disgusting
because she will not allow him to communicate.
He’s trying to justify and say it’s her fault he cheated. He’s so disgusting
I dont think you should call any human disgusting you cant create an ant
shut up@@sugarhiccup2584
This episode made me dislike him even more. He’s a tool. He secretly loves this scandal. The audacity to say the affair is her fault because she didnt stalk/follow him around (he said it in the scene with Schwartz) And if he calls people “dude” one more time-. She’s glowing without him now
She does look so much better doesn't she. She needs to lose him
He sounds so stupid calling people dude..like he is a 10 yr old boy..lol!
To be fair they all love the scandal, it's given new life to the show .
She is hurting and she is going to take time. She is going to go through many stages because it is natural during grief. She may go into a mistake relationship because she is getting old and may be getting desperate. Unfortunately, she may even marry a loser because that is the only thing she may feel is gonna come her way, but goodness I hope not. I wish her well.
Not me Ariana acts like she respected him and loved him. He wanted kids and to be married. Ariana wanted to be loose.
"Do you want anything?"
"For you to die." 😂
Her serious face and tone add to it also 😂
3:02 “that girl is searching for identity in men cuz she has no identity in of her own” probably the best definition of Raquel
My heart breaks for her. She’s such an amazing person. She deserves so much better then that
Is she and does she?
How do u know she is amazing ik ur trying to be nice but lets use common sense
The fact that Rachel ghosted him and he will be alone forever is amazing
He has a new girlfriend now.
Could you tell me how Ton and Rachel broke up??? Please if you could ah
Yeah that'll last 🙄@@GameLover-pz5zc
Obviously Tom wasn’t happy in the relationship BUT to sleep with her best friend is messed up.
It really seems as if he wasn't happy. But he shouldn't have slept with his wife's friend. It's sad
I agree he hasn't been happy, BUT once the two of them slept together that should have been the moment he broke off.
@@Range3333 they we're not married.
@@JustDiane71 There you go! Exactly!
@@bangeryun94 so cheating is ok as long as you're not married?
It's Maya holding her hand for me. How does the dog have more compassion than Sandy 🤦🏾♂️
the fact that he has never been sorry or sad to lose her was the biggest blow for her. he is a narcissist
The part that hurts me the most is that Ariana was legit the ONLY girl willing to deal with Tom, and actually saw a future with him, actually thought about kids and marriage at one point.... and he treated her like garbage
She was the side piece when they got together. She did the same to Kristen. Ariana got what she gave.
Unfortunately that’s how most men are. Women make them something and they come back to bite them.
@@houstonsmartradio2325Kristen had already cheated on Tom a bunch by the time Ariana got with him lol not the same
@@Takobellabut she didn't know Kristen was cheating. Watching season 2 and 3 is insane, how they treat Kristen. And yea, Kristen is faaar from perfect, but the way Ariana and Tom treated her after the breakup was horrible
okkk..he didn't reciprocate the feelings she gave him
Blaming her because she hasn’t give him respect? Lol he is hilarious.
Obviously what do you expect bruh
I love how he uses the word "selfish", just like we saw Rachel use it at the Reunion preview. They were hyping each other up that the worst thing they did was being selfish LOL the actual audacity these demons have
Cheating is bad enough but cheating with a friend is the betrayal part. Ariana and Schena was getting closer to her, telling her that “you are one of us” and gave her grace by all the while cheating. This is messed up on all levels!
Cheating is betrayal even if its not with a best friend bruh
I hope Arianna finds a love & peace like no other.. she truly deserves it! ❤️
The dog chose Ariana and that speaks volumes.
What…Arianas a dog?
Leave Sandoval alone, any person needs intimacy more than 3-4 times a year. What in hell did she expect???
@@judynordrum8208 are you justifying cheating?
@@Petunia1738I think she is literally talking about their dog
@@judynordrum8208mfs never heard of asexuality
That bass on “why don’t you just say no” was EVERYTHIIIIING. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🥺
This was the best episode of VPR to date.... and the only one where I teared up twice
Will you help me understand if you feel like it I understand if not
🤨🤨🙄🙄
I’m so sorry I just did some research and this is not the same as Tom and Arianna kissing behind Kristen’s back, Tom was fuxking this girl who was friends with Arianna behind her back and it happened several times??… please lmk if I’m on track I’m just trying to understand what all the buzz is about. Thank you in advance.
@@caligurl8770 it is the same girl. Ariana took Tom from Kristen, now she wants sympathy. I like Rachel! I hope she finds her voice!
@@lauraschonder409 oh damn…
This scene is very powerful and relatable and can be a life lesson to others. People are smarter now and thank goodness that therapy has become more accessible to cope and handle this kind of situation in life.
The way Tom had an affair with one of her best friends says a lot about him as a person. Not only that, but the way he's refusing to take accountability and acting like a victim makes him look like a narcissist, however, when he told Ariana that he wanted to leave it's clear that she got issues as well. She didn't deny refusing to let him leave so they had issues beyond Raquel.
If you can’t work or don’t want to work through it then you he has to leave. He wanted the easy way out. As Sheena said “you end it “ and “we will pick up the pieces”. This Dude has no strength whatsoever and his next girlfriend should consider the way she got him the way she will loose him.
@@katjaxxx7353 Yeah i think he's just a coward
@@katjaxxx7353 and still got into the bed with her
No one is blameless in this.
Tom never takes accountability in any situation an loves to shame his friends for even the smallest mistake they may make. He’s the most self-righteous being I’ve ever come across.
When you really think about how far Tom and Rachel’s relationship went, the manipulation, lies and sneaking around it’s actually really really sickening.
Lol are u kidding? Tom and Ariana did the same shit to Kristen in season 2 and 3 they treated her like shit! She was always Tom’s side piece
@@coolbeans948i get what you're saying, but kristen and ariana were not besties like her and raquel
@@deeparao-tw2oe it doesn’t matter how you got him is how you lose him regardless it’s called respect that’s disgusting literally living and sleeping in the same bed Tom and Kristen did Ariana got what she deserved which is karma but instead of karma she got Raquel
I read a Bravo source says Tom asked Bravo to film this scene again because he was worried it painted him in a bad light. Then threatened to quite the show when they refused. Go ahead Tom, quit. No one cares. *Edit: It may have been the scene with Rachel. Either way…
Seems about right and would not surprise me. Maybe that’s why he was so upset at Lisa’s about not getting to talk to Ariana again. He wanted a do over on that scene 🤔
Wait THIS is the version supposed to paint him in a better light? Yikes
@@9crimes87 No, Bravo refused to refilm the scene! I was wrong though, it was the scene of him and Rachel he wanted to refilm. That whole Tom/Rachel scene was super cringey and personally I thought she looked awful.
Ariana is ALL OF US that have been in this situation before. I stan and I ❤️ her! Thank you Ariana
So true ! Just like 9 years ago Kristen was that girl .
She lost him how she got him.
@@C.H1980 That was over ten years ago
@@C.H1980 You're a broken fecking record. And wrong to boot.
I don't stand with her.. the way she treated Kristen, Katie, miami girl. F her.
Her whispering "nothing" is everything. The loudest sound in the room.
“That girl is searching for identity in men” yuppp. Raquel would push a girl in front of a train for a moment of attention from a guy
I'm shocked they made it this far. When I first started watching, I thought the Toms were secretly together. 😂😂😂
I think some of those boys have that side to them.... always have....Tom, Tom, Jax
I agree, they never seemed like endgame material to me. They have disagreements on the most fundamental things in the progression of a relationship like marriage and children (not that either one are necessary to stay with someone but both parties should be in full agreement). But I never would’ve guessed that Tom would do something so slimy to her and then try to gaslight everyone into thinking his affair was somehow justified.
You and me both.
@@notalithiumbarbiedoll3535 Also as people, they seemed ill matched (and could have worked through it, but didn't). She is a homebody; he likes going out. He seems very emotionally fragile/ immature; she is more stoic. I remember very early on them saying they are each others' soulmates which I think is what did them in. That's cute when you're young but as you get older, you have to tackle relationship challenges and be honest about what is going to drive happiness for all parties.
I really assumed the new storyline are the Tom's admitting undying love. Popped out of closet. Never dreamed current situation. Both Toms,rachett and Scheana prove who they are.
this is one of the best scenes i have seen on bravo in YEARS
That happy music in the beginning is so out of place 😂
Well, the sun _was_ shining at James and Alley's place. Lol
😂😂
Then dogs humpin to the music just put me over 💀
@@lesleyd2448 the editors were trolling us 💀
The test of a man's relationship is when he has everything; a test of a woman's relationship is when he has nothing
It hurts but no woman deserves this type of guy!! I hope she finds happiness.
OMG, I can’t believe he is gaslighting her!!
Believe it. He should have done it years ago😮😮
Why not? That’s what he does.
I don’t understand how she remained so in control. I would have stabbed him with that wine bottle. 😂😂😂
Does anybody remember the fact that Ariana slept with Tom while he had a girlfriend. They kept asking them and they kept lying gaslighted tf out of her ! Nobody deserves the kinda pain cheating causes but if you slept with somebody that cheats why would ever in life think they’ll be loyal to you?! 👏🏾
Were Ariana and Kristen best friends? I thought not.
@@Plantlady70 it don’t matter 🤣 Ariana seems like a sweet girl, but she should’ve known how this man moves by how she got with him.
@@ashleyshadea3684 🥇 That part. And the other part too. You’re on a roll. The same way you get them is the same way you’ll lose them.
Thank you, Ariana was sleeping with Tom when he was in a relationship with Kristen. And Ariana was nasty to her and laughing at her. She didn't like it when it was done to her, but it's okay for her to do it to other women. She is such a hypocrite. She was the mistress. I remember everything and I saw every episode. And now she's acting like a victim when she did it to other women karma.
"Your worth nothing" Omg chills down my spine.
"You lose them how you get them" my grandma always said. Ariana did it to Kristin with tom back in the day when they were still together.
1000% Ariana is so boring and she needs to stop, So negative since she started on the show, it’s clear she hated Tom I personally think she used him to get on the show, also she at least kissed Tom when he was with Kristen (I think they fucked personally) and then you enjoyed watching while you made everyone think Kristen was crazy, also you covered for your Tom when he fucked Miami girl, you knew what you were getting into and you LOVE the attention your getting from it, none of these people like Ariana they just want a band wagon of hate to jump on, also apparently when they had the conversation on the sofa and tom said “I tried to leave you and you wouldn’t let me” that was about her threatening to take her own life. So what kind of position did she put him in with that, she’s toxic
Ariana is a hypocrite. She was having an affair with Tom when he was in a relationship with Kristen. And she used to laugh right in her face. She was very mean and nasty but now she wants pity when she did it to another woman, the nerve of her. What a hypocrite.
I recently went through a breakup and this made me feel so much better about how I reacted ♥️ this is a universal feeling
Tom Sandoval is so hollow, empty. Hes as lost as Rachel.
Me being someone that was in a five-year relationship that ended when they cheated everything that Thomas saying is the exact same thing that they said after they cheated it’s crazy how people can cheat and justify their behavior.
I felt this 💔 the exact same thing happened to me. So toxic that they can't take responsibility
Ariana cheated with Tom and his 5 year relationship, you forget that? You deserved it and so does she.
This relationship was doomed from the moment she told him she won't marry him and she doesn't want kids. That's major difference and something you can't work on. It was matter of time.
This is what I was thinking. Doesn't excuse his behavior of course, at the same time, it wasn't gonna last like you stated.
He should have broken up with her then if he wanted those things
It wasn't like she just told that now. She made it clear from the beginning he knew it and it wasn't a surprise. He was just dirty and he can make up all the excuses HE WAS WRONG.
Wow,I didn't know she said! So he should have end it.
She was freezing her eggs too be able to give him children if he wanted
They were not right together from the beginning a blind person could see this he wanted things in life she didn't want,his mates were married,having or thinking about kids she didn't want any of that.
I never watch the show before, but I definitely agree with you and if someone is not on the same page with you and then break up instead of cheating on a person, especially with their best friend, but from what I see, I don’t think they were ever best friends in the first place
Totally agree, they were on different pages from day one. What he did was low down and dirty, it was one of her closest friends. However, she’s moved on fast and in a new relationship. I feel they were stretched to the limit in a relationship lacking in many things.
Yeah, but thank god she didn't or she would be married and the coparent of a cheating loser.
@@hamptons1 it's even disgusting considering he said they should get married and then did this
So Miami girl was true?
Ariana knew and didn't tell the truth?
Disappointing.
She said on WWHL they weren’t exclusive yet so she protected him
If they weren't exclusive they can say he slept with her. No need to lie. So why did they? ...
@@ritadepeeves I don't recall Ariana ever saying the woman was a liar. She said she defended him. She didn't say she lied for him.
@@bangeryun94 she knew he slept with her. Season 3 reunion she said she believed Tom. She knew the truth. She lied. It's not defending him.
@@ritadepeeves That's a matter of perspective. She did not lie for him. Defending him is not lying for him.
Ariana's calm and poised composure despite having just recently learned of the betrayal is such a stark contrast to Katie's loud, ugly name calling explosion in the last episode. Ariana is a true queen 👑
Leave Katie alone. People are allowed to react as they want. How are you bringing Katie up when this is about your queen Ariana?
Lmao its so unnecessary to put someone down in order to give someone else praise. What katie was dealing with was also a completely different situation. Both katie and arianas situations are rage inducing but for katie that was built up for years. I wonder how calm youd be in the face of your soon to be ex husband doing what you've always expressed to him made you feel like garbage. Literally what did katie even do that was unwarranted?
@em. It's a show, all of these people are open to judgment! Why shouldn't it be applauded that Ariana is so much classier for how she dealt with her partner of 9 years betraying her versus Katie's ridiculous obsession of her EX-HUSBAND, god forbid, kissing another girl. Her reaction is laughable and it should be pointed out.
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 And who are u to judge what a stranger's opinion is of the show??
@@geminola_23 youre free to do that and people are free to respond to your criticism. She was never upset that he kissed a girl. She was upset because they had a conversation and had come to an agreement in order for them to stay friends. Shwartz is the one who said it was so important to him that they stay friends and the ONE thing katie asked of him, he couldnt do (which is a pattern in their relationship). And when katie made the decision to no longer be friendly as according to their agreement, he acted surprised and Sandoval called her entitled. People who willfully misinterpret why katie was upset because they don't like her are free to do so, i never said otherwise. He completely disrespected her and she reacted how she did. 12 years of buildup vs an unexpected betrayal is different.
Wow. You can feel the energy of Ariana's pain.
Maya's ears are so expressive she is constantly adjusting them. she seems so perfect and wonderful and almost fell asleep standing up she is very comfortable with ari
It’s the “you want anything”? …. “For you to die😊” for me 😅
This is so upsetting to watch.
💯💯💯💯
Oh my.. I’ve been a fan since day one.. Truly sorry that this is how things turned out.. I remember the early days when Tom had a conscience.. Is it truly a midlife crisis? And still no remorse.. Just sorry he got caught.. It’s amazing how intellectually you can speak to Tom in spite of it all.. Truly impressed with your choices at describing your feelings.. it’s heartfelt and I wouldn’t worry.. You have an amazing future ahead of you.. Sending best wishes always ❤
He is telling her he wants respect, that means they are incompatible 9 years of just being with your rejecter. YIKES.
Never date down this is another example
I don't feel sorry for Ariana. Was she not cheating with Tom when he was still dating Kristen? Tom has a huge Ego, fancies himself as a player. Rinse repeat, onto the next. I'm so glad I've chose the single life from now on.
Ariana did it to Kristen. And she used to laugh in her face. And now she's trying to act like she's so surprised at Tom cheated on her when she helped him cheat What a hypocrite. It's OK for her to be the mistress. Everybody better remember how she got on the show by sleeping with Tom while he was in a relationship what a hypocrite.
I'm so glad Ariana is thriving now😊❤
how is she thriving
This episode has me in tears 😭 I’m so hurt for her. He’s disgusting
I stopped keeping up with this show about five years ago and always thought their relationship was weird, no chemistry. I’m surprised it lasted this long tbh. He’s a nut.
I understand the hurt but why can’t we compare the Kristen situation when Ariana called her a “psycho” because she was cheating with tom!
Ariana wasn't cheating at the same time
Because it ruins their perception of perfect angel queen Ariana
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 or Mother Teresa. They have her on a pedestal. No shame in her game😂
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 no bc Kristen was cheating on Tom while complaining about him and Ariana was trying to go to therapy, work on her depression and have quality time with him to fix their intimacy issues. Not exactly the same situation
they kissed once while he was with Kristin - he fucked her bestfriend for 7 months behind her back then blamed her for it….I don’t think the situations are similar at all.
When she asks him when he’s gonna see Raquel next and he immediately says, “tomorrow.” Like WTF.
I felt her EVERY WORD!!!
Most men would leave the house, even if it’s both of theirs(had they made such a colossally gross decision). He’s such a raging pos.
I’ve been debating confronting a guy that lied to me about being married. This just goes to show that that would a waste of my time. When someone has no remorse, that’s just it, they have no remorse. Not worth it
My heart goes out to Ariana, he wounded her and for that he's contemptible.
But this conversation they're having is very powerful and we all stand to learn a thing or two from it. When you live with a man and you're both not intimate for years, that's a major issue. They shouldn't have turned a blind eye and wasted years in a toxic partnership. The best of us are addicted to sweeping things under the rug. Their relationship was doomed but I wish it had ended differently.
The show needed ratings.
@@dukefurst5741 she got hurt regardless
I think him and Rachel deserve one another. They both have identity issues. It's so sad. He's what 40 something and thinks like her. I feel so sorry for them both. Their both lost.
What's really creepy and sick is when she says you two were smiling in my face and Rachel still acting like her friend and him sleeping with the women that she thought was her friend and he doesn't see the betrayal in it is astonishing. Here when Jax slept with Kristen he cried you were my friend and broke hode is wild that he doesn't see why Arianna feels so hurt that someone she thought was her best friend him being her man and best friend and that little girl with identity issues and his little groupy doing this in her face without her knowing it's a slap in the face and they were playing laughing about it behind closed doors thinking they were so good at deceiving her and everyone else. His lucky Tom Swartz owns the bar too because of anyone still goes to their bar itlll only be because of him not this man child. Give me a break she wouldn't let you go. Grow a pair and leave anyways. You brought Arianna down. She'll be so much better and do so much better once you exit her life. Do us ask the favor and go to your number one fan that feeds your ego before someone gives her something better then you. Rachel isn't a catch but she has had good luck with men but I don't understand she went lower instead of higher. Your suppose to move on to something better not worse but then again she hasn't going herself yet or maybe she did with this tool of a man child. I can't wait to see Ariana man. He's gonna need everything Tom couldn't be for her. She was there through his tough times but couldn't pull her out of here because he was too busy being selfish screwing his fan that tells him what he wants to hear right now. I feel really sorry for. Tom. Lol
OMG I never thought I would say this, but I could feel her pain through the TV!!!!!!!!
She is feeling the betrayal that Kristen felt. She is even wishing him death same Kristen did for her. Alt the end , you can literally drive someone crazy if you know him well enough to push their buttons. It is scary
I think Tom thought this situation was going to unfold in a VERY different way!!
I feel sad for them, it's hard enough going through that but in front of the whole world. Sending my prayers for both sides of the camp 💯❤️💛🖤
They’re actors. They’re acting.
@@dukefurst5741 I don't think someone would spend 2 million dollars on a stunt
We love you Ari ❤you got this queen 🙏
why are we pretending that ariana wasnt ok with tom cheating for years? lmao
literally lmao
That's why I think the whole thing is fake. A contrived way to revive a dying show, and where everybody gets a piece of the pie.
“You’re worth *whispers* NOTHING .” 😂😢😅
Coming back to this it’s just painfully sad that everything they built together is now gone. They went from that disaster apartment to the beautiful home which we know probably cost them so much money in LA. All gone because of bad decisions and selfishness. No it’s sad and to anyone who’s ever been through it I hope you have find peace and light in your life. You deserve nothing but love of self and others!
If Tom wasn’t feeling wanted in the relationship anymore he should have left her. This is where people go wrong, they cheat and become the monsters. Ariana didn’t want to sleep with him anymore and she thought he would be ok with that. Ariana should have let him go. He slept with that woman in the guest room of their house while Ariana was sleeping. That to me is low and the ultimate disrespect. Raquel and Tom are foul creatures for that
I dont think you have a right to call raquel and tom foul creatures you cant create an ant so dont insult people no matter what they do!
Rewatching this now and seeing how hilarious it is that he thinks him and Raquel have a "deep connection" and now she's suing him. All she was for him was an ego boost for his midlife crisis.
What did she expect. ?
You lose them how you got them. What comes around goes around. This was just a matter of time.
How could he treat her like that?? That's so freaking horrible!
You LOSE them how you GET them … did he not tell Kristen the same thing about Ariana? 🤷🏽♀️🙄
his doesn't regret getting with Raquel one bit
OMG SANDOVAL IS JUST MANIPULATING THE SITUATION TRYING TO BLAME HER!!!
SANDOVAL YOU AND YOUR PAINTED NAILS CAN JUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!
"for you to die" is so iconic
Ariana we all see who you are and how kind, non judgmental and down you are. Your fans (us, we, me)! See your beauty inside and out. You show the world how amazing you are. They both did you a favor. I personally think that’s why she broke her engagement off with James. She set her sights on Tom then and yes, she ingratiated herself into your life to get closer to Tom
Does anyone realize these excuses he’s been giving for the affair are pretty much exactly what he said to Kristen when he was cheating on her with Arianna! Watch the reruns it’s fascinating!
She wanted to focus on raquel instead of what he just told her she's more angry about him, not wanting to be with her not about cheating.
😅😅😅😂 good catch.
Why would she ask him when next he's gonna see her lol 😅 I maintain that she knew he was f outside just maybe didn't expect it to be with a bff ... these types do it all the time, allow the partner to f outside so long as it's quiet but once they're stupidly busted they then have to do something about it. That's why she's reacting so weirdly and him too 😅
@@misselle1430 yes see i knew i wasn't the only one who was thinking it.
Can you explain more, sorry
@Angelaa it didn't hurt her that much with him cheating. I am sure she didn't like it, but she was more upset that he wanted her friend than anything
I feel you, girlfriend! Have said and heard these exact words from my narcissist. He’s gaslighting and trying to shift the narrative, like they do. He’ll never change, never be happy, ruin lives, and cause much misery before he’s done. Hold your head high, Queen. Otherwise your crown will fall.
PS: he’s never going to be sorry and he can’t feel anything in his “soul.” He has no conscience or empathy. None whatsoever
Didn't he cheat with her on some one else exactly😂
At 57 seconds in the dog sitting on the couch still as a statue listening to the conversation cracked me up for some reason 😂
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