My son had to wrestle a girl in middle school. It was horrific. He was aggressive and while at first not pushing the pace too fast, made a move to gain her back and riding her. Unfortunately she was severely injured, a collarbone break. The scream in that gym was something I'll never forget. Her parents came out on the mat and was upset and yelling about my son. A young lady should never be on a mat with a young man. Period. The strength mismatch is obvious and great. Girls wrestling girls more power to ya. Thankfully he only wrestled one girl in high school. Quick and also without injury to the girl. Thankful for that.
Well I'm sorry about that... But I think that such cases happen anyway even with boys only, if somebody isn't careful it can happen to anybody. But still it's logical that you shouldn't allow the mixing after the age of 12 because of the obvious power difference.
@@dtownwarrior wow, bjj is the way. I didn't know I'd meet somebody whose kids trained it, I did too until yellow belt. Yeah it's very good against stronger persons that's just a fact.
@@dtownwarrior stop being slow...you know exactly what the original poster is saying.....like you don't know what boys go through when they have to wrestle girls.... Uncertainty is the biggest problem for young men wrestling a girl. And I don't think it's fair making boys go through that just so women can be happy....smh You say your daughter is undefeated...how old is she?
And that is what happens when they are pushing for this gender equality bullshit even if girls in puberty are bigger and have bigger muscles they still do not have what it takes to take on a boy, and what happens is the boy beign at danger of getting expelled form the school, having to tolerate bitch face parents because he broke their princess. If the same injury occurred between two boys the thing would not been half that bad. Hopefully now that girl dedicates to other sports non combat or stickts to fight girls only, and with the knowledge that shit happens at every sport.
I bet most of those pins would have happened even quicker if those boys weren't worried about where their hands went. In THIS day and age especially, I wouldn't allow my son to be on the mat with a girl. Accidental hand plus girl pissed she lost, OR Karen mom deciding she thought an intentional 'feel' was copped = His life ruined before it began.
Especially since a man was charged with something for sticking a finger up another man's but while wrestling. This comment is 100% right. And if not then abolish all women's sports. There will be one league for basketball and soccer. Only the best of the best athletes get to play. And if none end up being girls I wouldn't be surprised
They are wrestlers and they know they gonna be touched everywhere its totally fine. As you said they are very young so their attributes don't matter yet.
Yeah unfortunately you're 100 percent correct. We're all under the microscope from these people just hoping and praying that they see something they can bitch and protest about. NOTHING is ok and EVERYONE has a voice they want heard.
They can, until they hit puberty and the boys start turning to men. From that point on the boys have a distinct competitive advantage, and frankly the girls have no shot.
@@eltonjohn4239 yes, actually. Once upon a time I was a young boy that wrestled, and I went to against a girl a few times. When you're wrestling 189 the last thing you want to do is go up against a girl. I mean, it's a likely win, but you feel embarrassed no matter what lol
I couldn't stand how people would try (and fail) to guilt me afterwards. "You were wrestling a girl. Did you have to be so aggressive?! Gosh." This is wrestling. They know what they signed up for. Deal with it.
That only happens when youre black they look at us like physically superior anyway. You see them clapping it up for these kids if it was a black kid it would be nothing but eye rolls and complaints lol
My girls wrestle and do bjj. Getting whipped by boys is good for them. Sometimes they win. Either way it makes them stronger and when it’s girls only comps, they do fantasticz
then whenever they DO actually win matches it's by cheating by grabbing the boy's penis to make him so uncomfortable he just quits ... it happens so often and then they will say "look at how often girls win in competition against boys" ... to the extent they do win it is cheating and most of the time they don't win EVEN IF they're bigger and stronger and have better technique ... they simply do not have a killer instinct like males do
Had a friend back in highschool and middle school that had to wrestle girls and he made it a point every damn time to show no guilt or take any guilt for beating the girls. The guy was literally doing the randy orton victory pose any time he won or when people would try and guilt him for winning, dude was so damn funny lol. For those wondering he didnt hate any of the girls or enjoyed beating them he just got tired of all the comments and decided to just be "the bad guy" to play it off.
There was a girl on my wrestling team in high school. She would win her matches because her technique was some of the best I've ever seen in high school, she even made it to state. Unfortunately against wrestlers with technique closer to hers, she would just get overpowered. Glad Colorado split into boys and girls leagues and she was able to win State.
@@seanfrosty7255 if you read carefully hes restating and emphasizing that a man almost 10 years past his prime with a debilitating condition can beat the tar out of a perfectly healthy, technically gifted female in her physical prime. It’s obviously a meta commentary on the state of sports where Trans athletes are utterly decimating real women in sports and no matter how much they swear that the hormone blockers are leveling the playing field we know that even a injured, past his prime male would most likely destroy any female counterpart at any age.
@@colterwhite9682 hes clearly not agreeing...he raised the stakes by pointing to the norm. And honestly I don't believe the story of the girl beating dudes around the city to go state.
@@martelljhixson what's the point in all of these females vs males? We already know the answer even the forefathers of our forefathets know men would win. Actually, there's no point in all of this unless you guys are oblivious or just want to flex toxic masculinity
There is no upside for boys competing with girls in sports. When boys win, it is expected. If boys lose, they become low tier & ridiculed. Respect the differences so both boys & girls can thrive
Not necessarily. In many states, girls, like boys, started wrestling at 5. Her beating boys was the normal. In HS there have been a few state champions, many placers, and so on. These girls were known.
Why is this even a "thing." It is idiotic. My granddaughters are highly skilled competitive tennis players. When they were 7, 8, and 9 they could beat a lot of the boys. But when the boys hit their early teens, it was over. The boys developed in strength and speed. In tennis they separate the boys and girls so the girls have a chance to win. Not only are the boys stronger and faster, they are far more aggressive. They will run through brick walls to win a match.
Wrestling works in weight classes and at lower levels girls can somewhat keep up but have a slight disadvantage. At middle and high school level I've seen plenty of female wrestling submit boys and one of my training partners was a girl one weight class above me (I was 160s and she was 170s) and she would do okay when she wrestled boys of her weight class however her record was definitely not the best (something like 4-7). However at higher level competition you never seen co-ed wrestling because the more skilled the wrestlers, are the more ways they know how to take advantage of differences in strength and physic. Even the slightest difference in muscle mass is game changing in collegic and Olympic wrestling, let alone the difference between men and women.
@@Staticsheep28 WIth 30% less lower body strength and 40% less upper body strength on AVERAGE. Women don't hold a candle to a man. There will always be the outliers that buck the trend, but the exception does not make the rule. You said it, when a higher skilled wrestler is involved the females have zero chance of success. More skills and more muscle equals win.
I was training Judo back in my childhood, at 8. There was a very strong girl, same age, and she mostly won on the ground against all of us (boys, girls, child group right). The whole gym was just wow how strong she is. Couple of years ago, we were ca 12-13, she had no chance against us anymore. She could win only against the other girls and she just quitted. Sooner or later biology shows the hard truth.
I feel bad for her getting demoralised and quitting from that. Someone needed to explain to her that this is just biology and nothing to do with her worth. And she would still be nailing the fresh meat white belts regardless.
I'm a male and I was larger than most kids my age when I was first starting out with things like Judo and Taekwondo, by 13 I was 5'10 and 180 lbs. It was blatantly unfair to have me in the same classes as kids my own age, there was nothing they could do to me and would just steam roll all of them only because I was that much bigger then all of them. The only person that could beat was the girl I had a crush on and I was just too awkward to wrestle or spar with her. The people running the school held off on moving me up to the adult class for a while since I would be so much younger and behind in training then everyone else that it be like they were running a whole different class just for me at the same time, but that's what ended up happening.
Nothing but love and respect for the females that rolled on that mat with me but it always bothered me that athletic programs didn’t promote women’s wrestling in my state. The females had to wrestle us or not at all and that right there shows the heart and courage they had.
if they "have" to wrestle men it would make sense they pair them with men 25% lighter or something like that, find the sweet spot where it makes it more even so it's more beneficial for both and to avoid unnecessary injuries
If there were girls wrestling boys because no female wrestling program existed, then it was very likely due to a lack of interest (on the part of girls) in a girl's wrestling program.
I'm a woman and I've wrestled against guys in tournaments, let me say everyone in the comments are wrong!!! Jk! I got my butt rocked. Competing against men ain't no joke. It's crazy it's even done. Had many injuries by being placed in the wrong gender division.
My daughter, Reni Gallan, you can Google her, competed just fine. Even against state level boys, giving up weight, in HS. The national level boys, once they hit puberty could dominate, but the rest were fair game.
@scottg6754 why even put your daughter in that position? You've basically taught her she can fuck with anyone, I hope she doesn't use those leasons irl.
It can be tough for the young boys cause girls develop quicker than boys. I've seen a couple boys get beat by girls and its pretty sad. Typically those boys who have been taught since they were toddlers to not be rough with girls are naturally timid when stepping on the mat with one. I've seen boys that have decided to get aggressive and end it quick, to eliminate any chance of humiliation and getting booed by the crowd. It's really a lose, lose for the boys.
This is stupid and dangerous, in high school I would have crushed a girls skull, just a matter a time until she meets real power. This should be illegal!
enabling? should you discourage them instead? women may stand no chance against males post puberty, but if they still want to compete and get washed, let em. As long as they're informed on what they're signing up for and understand the odds, if they still want to compete, let them have at it. The only time there is a problem is if there are exceptions made for the female athletes.
@@daethe i agree with your assessment as long as the kids competing haven't been given a false sense of their own capabilities vs their respective opponents. Would be pretty unfortunate if they were getting an earful on the drive home about a)not performing at their best or b)how unfair society is and the misogynistic hierarchy is responsible for their loss instead of basic biology.
Lol, maybe she thought she actually had a chance. What a shitty leg attempt she tried. 😂 She was acting like someone has been telling her she’s just as good as any boy. Lol “daisey” 😆
@@matthewrodriguez257 shit, dude!! My comment shouldn’t destroy her. Maybe she should work on technique, lift some iron, run some stairs at practice, instead of coming in like she’s starring in “The Sound Of Music” 😂 I’m not trying to be an asshole but, I learned, early on to “do your talking on the mat!” Never act like you’re good, because you might get humbled like she did………..go home and work on setting up that leg shot!! Just saying…..
It was truly pathetic. No respect to the opponent. No respect for the sport. Lollipopped her way to the mat. Very fortunate she didn't get her neck popped instead.
What's interesting is, you can visibly see the boys trying to not straddle the girls, and watching their hand placements. So, they were going pretty easy on them.
Yep. A standard breakdown against someone in a table is the "spike & spiral", but you need to reach through the crotch. In each case, the boys avoided this and just leaned into them to break them down to the mat.
I was on my junior high school wrestling team back in the late 70s. A girl came out for the team. Keep in mind this was way before this kind of stuff was commonplace. She wrestled my weight class. I can't even remember the weight class, 110, something like that, so I had to wrestle her every practice. Her technique wasn't bad, and I was no state champion, but I could easily defeat her because it was easy to overpower her. The funny thing was we all got used to her, and over time we didn't think much about the fact that she was a girl. The interesting part was we didn't really have anybody competitive for the weight class above us so she would routinely represent the team at matches at that weight class. She was the only girl so she would weigh in in the girls locker room alone. She would join us after she weighed in. When a we traveled for away matches that's when things got real interesting. She was a spectical. She beat a couple dudes along the way too. We would go nuts, but the other team would be like, "Holy crap, what just happened?" You can get away with combined competition at an early age, but as boys and girls age, the physical differences become more pronounced.
Depends on the weight class and the quality of the girl. My kid when young trashed the then young boys (mostly) but even boys whose voices had changed, she hammered them in HS giving up weight. But to keep it real there was a national level boy
@@scottg6754 that's because they've barely hit puberty Once it's in full swing - it's over I barely hit my growth spurt till 2nd half of senior year and graduated at 155 lbs I topped out at 288 lbs with 19+" untrained arms and multiple 110 kg Raw state records, including the Open. -growing for another 10+ years past high school.
I had to wrestle a girl in junior high. She was trying to get the JV spot from me. Most of the time that we'd practiced, I'd been nervous worrying about accidentally pressing on her chest and such. And in the first period, I had been in my head a bit with that and hadn't focused enough, so it was fairly even then. Second period, I got out of my head and quickly saw an easy opportunity for a half nelson, got it, and went straight into a pin. She was obviously not happy. And right as everyone saw her reaction, some of my teammates said "Man, he should've just let her win.", as if any of them would...
@@austinfleck6394 in front of spectators and a referee? highly unlikely tbh. but then again, girls and boys shouldn't be competing against each other in a physically, demanding sport like wrestling
I coached at the High School level for a couple of years. I always asked my wrestlers male/female is they wanted to wrestle the opposite sex. I know that I would have hated it when I wrestled. Just being honest.
Imagine a schoolboy faced with dilemma of wrestling a girl. If you win, "Pffft you a beat a girl". If you lose ,you lost to a girl and any masculinity you had is gone. I wrestled in HS before this whole female wrestling crap started and I can tell you that if I had been transported to this day and age any female wrestler I had to face would be destroyed in less than a minute just to prove she has no business on a mat with a guy. Someone please answer me why a girl can be on a boys baseball, football, basketball, wrestling team and a boy can't be on a girls fastpitch softball team.
Majority of these girls are wrestling bc their aren’t enough female wrestlers to make a bracket for that specific weight class, women just want to enjoy the sport too. Where I’m from it’s not separated bc at every competition there’s a total of maybe 3 other girls aside from me and only one or two in my weight class. If the girl worked hard enough to beat someone who’s naturally more advantaged, why should she have to not participate bc it affects your “masculinity”. You lost fair and square, if you went east on her, or acted “awkward” get over it and beat her next time. I assure you it doesn’t feel good for the girl either when people make comments on being less of a man bc you lost to a girl, so why suggest removing women from men’s division ?
@KenKwn that didn't answer the question. Why exactly should women have that privilege, of just popping in to mens sports when men can't do the same? You minimize the psychological experience of the male competitors. Yet, all we hear about from female swimmers these days is how unfair it is to have Trans women competing against them.. and politicians respond. Think about that.
I hear what you are saying but don't knock these young ladies. My son's middle school team has two girls. There are not enough girls interested to have a girls' team. Since they are not as strong as the boys, they would be considered "JV" although we do not have a JV team. They get a match every so often when we go up against another school and more so at tournaments where they may have some girl's or mixed exhibition matches as well. They are two wonderful young ladies we have. They come to every practice, every match, every tournament, and are valued team members
@Bobby Brissette that's fine brother...teach your children how to defend themselves..but when you put your daughter in a sport for boys to potentially hurt her or feel her up it's unnecessary.if you have a son that wrestles, in this day and age with all these femenist and "me too movement" our son's really have to be careful where they place their hands ...things can go far left when or if a parent or lil girl gets angry from a loss... accusations of all sorts can be a issue I had a discussion with a friend that was a highschool wrestler...he told me that if the day ever comes, where boys are taught to see girls in the same way they see others boys on the mat( no holds barred)...those girls will be in a world of trouble
This is really tough to watch. As someone who was ranked 3rd in the nation in college, and is now a father to 5 daughters, it is incredible to me that the parents (and coaches for that matter) of these young ladies encourage/allow this. Where’s the good/positive in this? These girls are not only risking an exponentially higher threat of serious injury, but emotional trauma for themselves and even possibly their male opponents as well. Wrestling is a fantastic sport and it’s admirable that these girls wish to participate, but in a pure combat sport, it is just not prudent to pit them against males.
@@dylanryan3525 I can’t risk issues with my current career Dylan, but if you are who I think you may be, then that is pretty cool, especially given the circumstances. I assume if it is you, then you’re likely coaching now. Best wishes!
emotional trauma? what are you talking about buddy? i've wrestle 7 years and its probably my favorite thing to do, it might help me be the first person in my family to go to college. what isn't positive about me being in this sport?
@@dorawrestles5895 do you wrestle male opponents as well? Also I hate to ask, but nowadays it is unfortunately a relevant and necessary question, was your gender female at birth?
@@TheCaptainmojo1973 of the hundreds of opponents I've had maybe 10 have been women. We just finally had a womens state sanctioned tournament for the first time ever. Yes i am a female. if you look at my channel it is quite clear that i am a female, at birth or whatever the hell that means.
You can see the intensity with which the boys wrestled these girls and tried to put them away as quickly as possible. Had it gone even close to a full period it would have been embarrassing for the boys regardless of the score.
Back in our day, (early’90’s) we had a move called “the Saturday night”. You’d lay chest to chest, hook their legs with yours, and push their arms up over their head (so they couldn’t bridge). Some guy’s used it. I never did!! I didn’t feel “cool” with it. 😂
@@axemanners6643 uh huh. It was just the start of girls in the boys categories. Honestly, I remember telling my coach, “I don’t want to wrestle a girl”. I’m not letting up on her. I’ll break her back.”………I never had to, thankfully.
Just more proof of why there must be separation of sports. This NWO that is being pushed is going to get someone hurt I’m afraid. That being said, these young ladies are awesome and talented.
@@patmash Don't digress into childish insults. Try to communicate in a respectful manner. Hopefully we can get Donald back in there and he can ban women.
Middleschool / Early high school wrestling is about the only time you'll find some even ground before puberty really kicks in and makes the strength/speed disparity too strong.
Back in 2010 I was varsity wrestling coach at high school level. We had girls on our team. If they were matched against a boy at a meet, I always asked them before their match “you okay? It’s fine to forfeit” win or lose or forfeit, our entire team was respectful of what happened next..
telling them to forfeit is pretty disrespectful imo, they signed up for it knowing what they'd face even if they stood no chance, so let them get manhandled
So we are equal right? Also 6:57 if y'all wanted it out of curiosity. Cuz this is one of the times where the guys had to be careful and still held back.
Girls should never compete with boys. Most women might not understand that most men would unconsciously hold back, but some don’t simply to make a point. I don’t care how empowered you are, if you want to get serious you’ll simply learn how helpless you are. Life isn’t a movie.
I have mixed opinions on all of this. I wrestled in middle school and high school but never faced a girl. For most teenage boys it would be VERY awkward. I will say that in some controlled environment like a self defense class this might be smart. No doubt the girls who wrestle boys can gain a huge advantage in terms of self defense especially when it comes to finding out what men are actually capable of. The life skills you learn from wrestling are also invaluable and the self confidence and humility gained through one on one combat sports are some of the best things a young man can gain. I assume this is true for women also. Sisters and wives of wrestlers also tend to be pretty tough lol! My sisters are all very strong women and my wife is dangerous :)
Wrestling is such a garbage sport for self defense. I don't find anything humiliating about it, except for the fact it teaches bad habits for a real fight, like giving your back.
@@robmangeri777 I've been in many real fights, in prison too. I did wrestling in high school and I hated it. I was not allowed to choke my opponent I was not allowed to do anything. If someone gets behind me I have to give them my ass to not have my back on the ground instead of protect myself. I've never been taken down in a real fight and if I did I wouldn't give my back so the back of my head can be pounded on, f*** no. I already had training before I tried wrestling so I already knew how to fight, plus grappling techniques like sprawling and other stuff are taught in much better martial arts and sports.
@@malachite072 you have to admit that wrestlers are usually tougher people in general. Strategy wise you have to adapt away from competition rules in a real fight which you know. Who makes better fighters than people who wrestled? It isn’t karate that’s for sure. I’m learning some jiu jitsu now and so far wrestling gives me a huge advantage. Thanks for your honesty though.
In my junior year, my wrestling practice partner was a girl (same weight class). Whilst she was tough contrary to her feminine appearance, I did feel sorry for her daily bruises and cuts, and went softer in general (and I was a lazy athlete). I wrestled a total of 3 girls in tournaments. There was one girl who placed 2nd overall, so major props to her. Some girls can take it, but most aren't cut out for contact sports.
Its not good either way, if you win, you beat a girl good job. If you lose, LMAO you lost to a girl good job. There's no winning. A kid in my wrestling room lost to a girl at a tourney and his dad looked like he wanted to disown him right then and there, as my other wrestling friends laughed. I felt so bad...
@@bobross4616 Lol I and my teammates laughed when one of our teammates got techd by a girl wrestler from a crosstown rival. We found out she only had 8 losses to guys and had about 45 wins to her varsity record. Good is an understatement for her.
It's a sense of equality. They're simply playing for themselves peacefully and fairly with good sportsmanship. There's no need for pity. There's also no need to let someone you know who is stereotypically weaker than you win. Unless you have to then it is yours and your opponent's game.
In college a girl wanted to play basketball with the guys during our health class. One of the dudes that flirted with her during class took her on 1v1 and accidentally broke her nose when she came in too close to guard him. I still remember hearing it crunch.
I’d almost feel bad, but they chose to do it. I don’t understand why they did but they did. There’s 2 glaring differences between the sexes here. Strength and aggression. Testosterone can’t be ignored even if they want to
Anyone who wrestled is a better person after. I couldn’t imagine the impact on confidence among other things a girl could get from putting her physical ability to the test against men who are generally stronger. Just the courage to put yourself out there and seeing what that does for your life is hiuge
because there were no separate boys/girls divisions in the folk style till recently. Girls wrestle boys starting from Tots and up at the club level folk style. We had situations when we had 2-5 girls in different weight brackets against 400+ boys in the same tournament. If there are enough girls in the same weight bracket to pair them up, they will, otherwise, they'd wrestle boys. If girls were "quietly waiting in the corner" for a separate division just to happen out of the blue, they'd be waiting till the cows come home. The only reason the folk style scene starts having girls-only teams/events is that there are enough girls now wrestling so they have enough to separate it. The last tournament we went to in WI, they had so many girls participating so they were able to have two girls-only mats set up. And just FYI, there are girls that will give boys a run for their money. Not 1:1 but often enough that it makes it worth mentioning. To wrap it up, no one seems to have any issues with girls wrestling boys in Judo or BJJ ... what seems to be the issue here?
It is all new to those girls, and the guys are as going to be stronger and better. But i have to hand it to those so girls for wanting to as compete, improve here upon the last match as kind of thing. As a guy myself i applaud these gals. I do not hate on them for wanting as to compete. Keep it up! Ladies.
I have played a thousand bar gigs and have seen and heard a LOT of women say to men , "I'll kick your ass.."" Let them watch these videos...these are boys making quick work of these girls, just think what a grown man could do to a grown woman...
Fun fact: since 6th grade, me and my boys used to talk shit about how wrestling was “really gay” cuz it was boys on boys and shit, and we always clowned them. But come 7th grade, we were forced to participate in Olympic Games Day at my school, and we were all obligated to participate in every sport. So when i went to the gym to start the wrestling event for my class, i was taught some techniques by my later to be Coach Rodney Smith, (a former bronze Olympian from Barcelona) and luckily i was partnered with a girl. I learned the half nelson and bulldog and stuff, and then we had to wrestle eachother kneeling down, and i won; and it was then that i said “Hey, this is actually pretty cool” i felt like an actual gladiator when i beat someone wrestling, even if it wasnt anywhere close to the real thing, and so later i signed up. It would take me 2 skirmishes to finally get my first official win, but by that point i was already hooked😌
I will say, Ive never wrestled on a team, but these matches look exactly like when i would just overpower my friends growing up by being a solid 40 lb heavier than them at the least. There are obviously outliers, but it rly seems like the difference in muscle structure leads to being what would be 2 weight classes more
Had to wrestle a girl once when I was 16. Coach told me to go easy on her cause she was new but I was so afraid of somehow losing that I just went nuts and pinned her in 8 seconds 😂
This is so ridiculous...... I don't know why we as a nation allow this. There need to be nationwide walkouts. I won't support any physically taxing sport that competes men against women
The chicks want it. They're taught that stupid mentality that "women can do anything a man can do", and they don't realize that's bullshit until their face has been planted into the ground by a dude.
Probably because the woman who is at a natural disadvantage to most guys is actively choosing to do it? You could fight “the rock” if you wanted even though it unfair. The difference is she has the balls to do it and you don’t.
I wrestled for 6 years in school and was always in the lighter weight classes and so had to wrestle a handful of girls. It was always a tough situation. Sort of a lose-lose. If you lost, your were done in terms of how the other boys would react! If you didn't win commandingly, you might also face ridicule. In retrospect, this was unfair to the girls. Every girl I wrestled seemed to give it their all. There is no way a girl the same weight as a boy can be as strong. It's so unlikely and rare. So, these girls, despite having significantly less muscle, were out there competing and giving it their all and relying on other possible advantages like speed, agility, technique, and smarts. I really give my praise to these girls. I'll bet many of them lose matches in the double digits and yet continue to compete with the boys. That shows a lot of grit and character. I remember one Jr. Varsity tournament where I was put into the consolation bracket after the first round. While I never wrestled her, the winner of the whole bracket was a girl! She was the daughter of the wrestling coach and was a total animal. Strong, fast, good technique, great endurance, SUPER cute (she was even a cheerleader in the off-season!). I was so glad I never had to directly wrestle her where I'd certainly lose. Now as a father with a daughter who wrestles, I'm happy every time she competes and leaves it all on the mat even if she loses. It would be hard to lose over and over again to others who are typically quite a bit stronger. I really take my hat off and salute these female competitors who continue to give it their all in matches against boys! And even more kudos to those particularly good female wrestlers who beat many male competitors. Wrestling is such a great sport and no one knows how hard it is until they've spent 6 minutes on that mat!
And for the record, this montage of videos is exactly my experience watching *most* male-female matches throughout high school in even a strong wrestling state like KS. Most female wrestlers just get slaughtered in the first round. More reason to give accolades to them for their continued dedication to get back up and try again. I can't imagine how it would feel to work so hard in practice through an entire season and lose probably almost every match every season and yet keep on doing it. That's some grit! I'm glad female wrestling is catching on and some states and schools now have all-female teams and all-female meets and tournaments. It is great to see the top females compete against each other on a more equal footing (in terms of raw strength).
Boy-girl competition is unfair for boys... even it is risky at that age. İn case of a bad lost by pin in front of his family, audience including May be the girl for whom he feels something; it May cause a real damage in his soul. To lose against a girl in any other sport would not be so bad; even it fight sports based on hits or impact the hits are counted and a girl having equal chance to make a punch would not humiliate the boy by defeating him. But wrestling is based on control of the opponent's body.
funny thing to note most people dont know.. wrestling in hs is based on matching weight so both wrestlers were probably 135lbs or something which means pound for pound you have men completely dominating women
Thanks! It was quite refreshing to see the TYPICAL outcomes of boy vs, girl wrestling matches than the typical cherry picked TH-cam crap of “girl pins boy in wrestling”, “girl humiliates boy on wrestling mat”, “girl puts boy in painful spadle”, yada, yada, yada. In fact I’m even surprised that TH-cam allowed this video to be posted!
A guy should never, ever, have to worry about what his hands might touch or brush up against in these matches. It's almost impossible to do this sport without arms and hands touching private areas. If a girl chooses to be in such a male-dominated sport, then that's on her.
I had to wrestle a girl in high school. It was the most nervous I ever was for a match. I was 189 weight class and she was wrestling up from the 171 class but was closer to 160. Pinned her as quickly and gently as I could. We had a lot of girls on the team for the early 2000s and some actually beat boys a few times. It was nice when the opposing teams would have girls so they could wrestle each other.
I was a wrestler in high school I wrestle one girl three time in 112 I did not show any mercy I did not want to touch her inappropriately so I just pin here fast. Second match had with this girl I just went technical pin. Beating her by 15 point
So long ago I used to date a woman who worked for the FBI. She was not an agent, but was out in the field as such had to go through the self-defense training. One of the things they practiced was being down on the ground, a person on top, and they had to escape. She gets matched up with this man in her class, and she has to start flat on her belly with him on top of her. They're wrestling and twisting, really going at it. She said she did OK, that while she was not able to escape she was able to get her arms free or something like that. Funny thing was, the instructor blows the whistle after a couple minutes and they both stand back up, and he's got a huge hardon poking out of the front of his little FBI gym shorts. Afterwards all the women in the class were like, "I'm never hooking up with that guy!"
Well what did they expect, didn't they know that it can be an involuntary response especially he's wrestling a female that might be ovulating and secreting pheromones on her body? Kinda childish behavior on the class.
I only wrestled one year, and never against a girl, fortunately. I'd have refused on principle. But a guy on my team did. He was a skinny, long-haired, goth kid, who decided to go out for wrestling, his first year trying it, same as me. I don't know the experience level of the girl, but _she_ looked _very_ athletic. He pinned her so fast... it was the fastest pin I'd ever seen. And I'd never seen him try _that_ hard, because you know he was desperate. He was in an existential panic. Our team was all guys, and I think we all felt _immensely relieved_ when he pinned her. If he had lost... nobody would have said anything about it. Some shames are too deep. It would never have been mentioned. And that would have been the worst shame of all - to do something unmentionable, unspeakable, and have to be among the people who know. He would have turned into a dark horror in his bones. He would condemn himself, and no possible words could persuade him not to. He would wish somebody would bring it up, so he could defend himself. I remember feeling horrified _for_ him, to have to face even that _possibility._ He was subject to that, and we were not. I didn't know the guy, wasn't friends with him - don't remember ever speaking to him. But I was _so glad_ for him that he didn't go down like that. To lose to a girl, I think, would destroy a young man's self-image and self-esteem. And that kind of feeling is not cultural. It's not something that can be undone by brainwashing. It's the psychological end of sexual dimorphism. We have different shapes, for different purposes. How come consideration of _that_ is off the table? Nobody ever considers the male perspective. But I do. How come we don't think about what happens to a young man, when a girl _does_ beat him; because girls _do_ sometimes win. We all start life weak. We're supposed to be _encouraging_ the maturation process in young men, into pillars of the community, into potential warriors, should need arise - not shaming them for starting weak. If you're a parent putting your daughter into wrestling against boys, maybe think about what it does to the boys she beats. It's not just about her, and whether or not she _can_ win. There have always been guys who don't have that athletic ability; and you may be able to train your daughter to beat them. But is that a _good_ thing to do? Boys sometimes don't know any better than to shame the non-athletic boy, the boy who's maybe into daydreaming and art, or whatever, and sucks at sports. That's called bullying, and should be discouraged. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. But as grown-ups, you shouldn't be setting up other people's boys for shame, by training your daughter to beat them in a fight, in front of other people - especially in this age of social media. That has to feel totally different from getting beat by another boy. There's what is _possible,_ and there's what is _appropriate._ The two are not the same. Compassion and good will should be our guide stones to what is appropriate and what is not. Would you raise your son to go around publicly shaming below-average looking girls for their looks? After all, it's _true_ that 50% of girls are below average in looks. Why not go around pointing out the ugly girls to everybody, publicly shaming and humiliating them for it? Because it's _cruel,_ that's why. It's fucking cruel. Well, maybe cruelty isn't the most ideal method of raising boys either. Hardship with honor and comradery, yes. Struggle, yes. Competition among them, yes, even with the inevitably resultant hierarchy. A hierarchy among males can be a healthy thing. Recognition of differences, yes. Orienting each boy towards his native strengths, yes. Setting the bar slightly out of reach to encourage progress, yes. But cruelty? When a boy is beginning to make forays into his budding masculinity, wanting to try out for the wrestling team for the first time, wanting to explore his maleness and test himself against other males - to then march girls out onto the mat to out-masculine him... this is no good.
@@brindlebriar Your correction isn't incorrect, but it's unnecessary. Brad's comment is fine. BTW, I did not read 90% of the original posting for reasons that will remain unspecified.
That's the thing Some situations Of you didn't go all out you are considered weak And if you go all out and just beat her with 0 difficulty people will say you should've let her win cause she's a woman
What's the point of this from the male competitor's perspective? I get that women can get better by being matched - training with larger, stronger opponents and then when they face off against women of their same size, it might give them an edge. However, the boys can be sloppier in their technique and just power out of holds and smother the females.
Agreed. I saw ALOT of sloppy moves from the boys. Going in for a takedown is not supposed to look like a diving competition. Instead of doing the moves properly, most of them just muscled through everything to get the win. They would get turtled against another male wrestler. I have flashbacks of my coach making us drill the basics until they became a part of our DNA. Not sure what's going on at these wrestling practices...
Never said there was anything wrong. I actually commend these young ladies for getting into that sport. IMHO, it's the most difficult collegiate sport. The fact that they (and the young men) are willing to put themselves thru that training and competition is praiseworthy. With that being said, one of the things that my coach stressed on us was that if your opponent is stronger than you, outclass them with speed and technique. The vast majority of the girls in this video had much sloppier technique than the guys. Whether it falls on the girls or their coaching, that needs to be addressed.
Years ago we were playing sand volleyball. My gf at the time though she could wrestle me down. I stepped through her hold and we heard her knee go POP! lol. I guess she never tried that again. Lol
That Fireman’s carry in the 3rd match was the first “throw I’ve seen in these videos. Boys……you need to use these opponents to practice techniques, like throws and balance maneuvers. I see these boys, simply “muscling” them over with the power half. These opponents are like the throwing dummies in the wrestling room. Their purpose, for you, is to develop your strengths and work out your weaknesses. Let’s go, Boys!!
No end it as quick as possible to show how "fair" this is. Do a huge flip and smack then on the ground. Apparently someone has to get hurt before people start believing in biology again. So I say let's get it over with. Do a huge burst and end it. So no one can doubt the fairness of the fight. Don't toy with them that is disrespectful. It is not like any of these ladies was going to win anyway....
At 3:20 you can see before the match starts who will win. The boy (in green) is much more muscular, taller, and overall physically fit than the girl (in blue) who has much less muscle mass, shorter, and obviously less physically fit. The fact that they're in the same weight class is astonishing. Even if they were on the same level of wrestling skill, his strength and size gives him an obvious advantage.
I never knew intergender wrestling was so common. My high school didn't have wrestling and my college didn't have wrestling. So I know very little about it.
I don't think she was skipping. I mean she physically was, but not what you're thinking. I'm pretty sure she was mimicking the Olympic (NCAA??) runner who warms up that way.
My neighbor's daughter was the state high school wrestling champion in her junior year. She had college programs talking to her about committing. She is GOOD, and for fun, she went up against a incoming freshman boy, two weight classes under her, and two years wrestling experience (she has 12, she was wrestling before she was in first grade, and has competed in, and out of school since she was 6). She told her father that her goal was to hold her own and not get pinned. She made it about 15 seconds before she was taken down, and another 10 seconds before she was pinned. If the liberals get their way, she will be on the mat with boys (pretending to be girls) in her weight class, and it will be the end of girls wrestling.
Sure, the occasional girl can be competitive (one in a few hundred), but these results are the norm. Why does our society pander to the very few and make the majority pay the penalty.
Oh no the majority have to pay the penalty of what? Feeling uncomfortable? I’ve faced many girls in my life from the age of 7 through my high-school career. Maybe it’s just because I had decent parents but I was never uncomfortable outside of the feeling of not wanting to lose to a girl. Boys are going to be in a lot more uncomfortable situations in life than having to wrestle and touch a female that is making the choice to go out there and step on the mat for a wrestling match. Get over it
@@Heytheredelisandwich the same reason I shouldn't run track on the girls team, because it's not fair. I'm not against girls wrestling, I'm against girls wrestling boys.
@@chevysilver-ray-dough6328 Most states, like The southern states (Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, etc) they don’t have separate tournaments. My team had a female in high school that chose to wrestle as many guys in varsity as she could (she earned it through beating another of my teammates in a wrestleoff). She’s always the talk of the school now because she and another girl (who was not even close to her level) did it and put in work. She did good enough to qualify at the girls and boys section tournament in NY. She said it was incredibly tough to even get a decent seeding because she was a girl and because her record wasn’t perfect like some of the guys. Like a few guys were undefeated in the section but they didn’t have to deal with being a girl wrestling 30 guys. She did. As a matter of fact, and I love telling this story because it’s real, she still wound up upsetting the #3 and #4 ranked wrestlers in the section and she pinned the one in the third after a reversal and tilt. She also won 14-9 over the #4 ranked wrestler in the second round. Honestly, if all the college teams were balanced and there was 5 women for 9 guys. I bet at least 3 girls are losing their matches by pins or techd and the other is winning by either decision or by major decision (winning my 7 or more points). The rest is up to the guys. Lol.
Some beautiful transitions there. Ankle pick to head and arm without even throwing a head and arm. Fireman's to cradle that fell together seamlessly. Were there any double legs to honeymooners? I didn't watch the whole video.
In this world of equality and diversity we no longer should differentiate into mens and womens sports. They should be combined and all treated as equals. For example, if you have a Tennis tournament the men and women all play each other till there's an winner. Simple, all treated equal.
My son had to wrestle a girl in middle school. It was horrific. He was aggressive and while at first not pushing the pace too fast, made a move to gain her back and riding her. Unfortunately she was severely injured, a collarbone break. The scream in that gym was something I'll never forget. Her parents came out on the mat and was upset and yelling about my son. A young lady should never be on a mat with a young man. Period. The strength mismatch is obvious and great. Girls wrestling girls more power to ya. Thankfully he only wrestled one girl in high school. Quick and also without injury to the girl. Thankful for that.
Well I'm sorry about that... But I think that such cases happen anyway even with boys only, if somebody isn't careful it can happen to anybody. But still it's logical that you shouldn't allow the mixing after the age of 12 because of the obvious power difference.
On the contrary my daughter is undefeated in wrestling boys & girls.. her years of brazilian jiu jitsu made it easy for her
@@dtownwarrior wow, bjj is the way. I didn't know I'd meet somebody whose kids trained it, I did too until yellow belt. Yeah it's very good against stronger persons that's just a fact.
@@dtownwarrior stop being slow...you know exactly what the original poster is saying.....like you don't know what boys go through when they have to wrestle girls....
Uncertainty is the biggest problem for young men wrestling a girl. And I don't think it's fair making boys go through that just so women can be happy....smh
You say your daughter is undefeated...how old is she?
And that is what happens when they are pushing for this gender equality bullshit even if girls in puberty are bigger and have bigger muscles they still do not have what it takes to take on a boy, and what happens is the boy beign at danger of getting expelled form the school, having to tolerate bitch face parents because he broke their princess. If the same injury occurred between two boys the thing would not been half that bad.
Hopefully now that girl dedicates to other sports non combat or stickts to fight girls only, and with the knowledge that shit happens at every sport.
I bet most of those pins would have happened even quicker if those boys weren't worried about where their hands went. In THIS day and age especially, I wouldn't allow my son to be on the mat with a girl. Accidental hand plus girl pissed she lost, OR Karen mom deciding she thought an intentional 'feel' was copped = His life ruined before it began.
Interesting comment.
Especially since a man was charged with something for sticking a finger up another man's but while wrestling. This comment is 100% right. And if not then abolish all women's sports. There will be one league for basketball and soccer. Only the best of the best athletes get to play. And if none end up being girls I wouldn't be surprised
They are wrestlers and they know they gonna be touched everywhere its totally fine. As you said they are very young so their attributes don't matter yet.
Yeah unfortunately you're 100 percent correct. We're all under the microscope from these people just hoping and praying that they see something they can bitch and protest about. NOTHING is ok and EVERYONE has a voice they want heard.
You're a panzy his life won't be ruined. Its a fucking wrestling match.
This should be considered an educational film showing why boys and girls should not compete in sports together.
No the girls know the risks associated with wrestling and choose to do it, so if anything, they deserve it.
@@xVocalWarrior Uhhh, that goes without saying, but what does that have to do with my comment?
They can, until they hit puberty and the boys start turning to men. From that point on the boys have a distinct competitive advantage, and frankly the girls have no shot.
@@CharlieRogers50 do you know what those young boys have to go through when wrestling a girl?
@@eltonjohn4239 yes, actually. Once upon a time I was a young boy that wrestled, and I went to against a girl a few times.
When you're wrestling 189 the last thing you want to do is go up against a girl. I mean, it's a likely win, but you feel embarrassed no matter what lol
I couldn't stand how people would try (and fail) to guilt me afterwards.
"You were wrestling a girl. Did you have to be so aggressive?! Gosh."
This is wrestling. They know what they signed up for. Deal with it.
That only happens when youre black they look at us like physically superior anyway. You see them clapping it up for these kids if it was a black kid it would be nothing but eye rolls and complaints lol
I hate wrestling girls cuz if I win i feel like an asshole and if I lose I am a scrub
never lost though
My girls wrestle and do bjj. Getting whipped by boys is good for them. Sometimes they win. Either way it makes them stronger and when it’s girls only comps, they do fantasticz
then whenever they DO actually win matches it's by cheating by grabbing the boy's penis to make him so uncomfortable he just quits ... it happens so often and then they will say "look at how often girls win in competition against boys" ... to the extent they do win it is cheating and most of the time they don't win EVEN IF they're bigger and stronger and have better technique ... they simply do not have a killer instinct like males do
Had a friend back in highschool and middle school that had to wrestle girls and he made it a point every damn time to show no guilt or take any guilt for beating the girls. The guy was literally doing the randy orton victory pose any time he won or when people would try and guilt him for winning, dude was so damn funny lol. For those wondering he didnt hate any of the girls or enjoyed beating them he just got tired of all the comments and decided to just be "the bad guy" to play it off.
Guilt for winning what a joke.... it's a competition, you could only blame the fact that they had to compete against eachother
The mere fact that people were mad at him for winning. What was he supposed to do? Throw the match?
If you win. You really embarrassed a girl. If you lose. You lost a girl 😂. Stupid people
There was a girl on my wrestling team in high school. She would win her matches because her technique was some of the best I've ever seen in high school, she even made it to state. Unfortunately against wrestlers with technique closer to hers, she would just get overpowered. Glad Colorado split into boys and girls leagues and she was able to win State.
@Tennessee outlaw .. So you’re basically just agreeing?
@@colterwhite9682 Hes agreed but had to flex I guess I really don't know the point of hus comment
@@seanfrosty7255 if you read carefully hes restating and emphasizing that a man almost 10 years past his prime with a debilitating condition can beat the tar out of a perfectly healthy, technically gifted female in her physical prime. It’s obviously a meta commentary on the state of sports where Trans athletes are utterly decimating real women in sports and no matter how much they swear that the hormone blockers are leveling the playing field we know that even a injured, past his prime male would most likely destroy any female counterpart at any age.
@@colterwhite9682 hes clearly not agreeing...he raised the stakes by pointing to the norm. And honestly I don't believe the story of the girl beating dudes around the city to go state.
@@martelljhixson what's the point in all of these females vs males? We already know the answer even the forefathers of our forefathets know men would win. Actually, there's no point in all of this unless you guys are oblivious or just want to flex toxic masculinity
There is no upside for boys competing with girls in sports. When boys win, it is expected. If boys lose, they become low tier & ridiculed. Respect the differences so both boys & girls can thrive
Not necessarily. In many states, girls, like boys, started wrestling at 5. Her beating boys was the normal. In HS there have been a few state champions, many placers, and so on. These girls were known.
@@scottg6754 What world do you live in? The world of stupid? You are the only guy who couldn't beat a girl.
Lol what a loser way to still think in the year 2022
I feel most women hate being women. Not all, most.
@@mas5867 hmmm I wonder why
Why is this even a "thing." It is idiotic. My granddaughters are highly skilled competitive tennis players. When they were 7, 8, and 9 they could beat a lot of the boys. But when the boys hit their early teens, it was over. The boys developed in strength and speed. In tennis they separate the boys and girls so the girls have a chance to win. Not only are the boys stronger and faster, they are far more aggressive. They will run through brick walls to win a match.
As has been proven repeatedly by having low ranked former male tennis players destroy top level female players.
Wrestling works in weight classes and at lower levels girls can somewhat keep up but have a slight disadvantage. At middle and high school level I've seen plenty of female wrestling submit boys and one of my training partners was a girl one weight class above me (I was 160s and she was 170s) and she would do okay when she wrestled boys of her weight class however her record was definitely not the best (something like 4-7).
However at higher level competition you never seen co-ed wrestling because the more skilled the wrestlers, are the more ways they know how to take advantage of differences in strength and physic. Even the slightest difference in muscle mass is game changing in collegic and Olympic wrestling, let alone the difference between men and women.
@@Staticsheep28 WIth 30% less lower body strength and 40% less upper body strength on AVERAGE. Women don't hold a candle to a man. There will always be the outliers that buck the trend, but the exception does not make the rule. You said it, when a higher skilled wrestler is involved the females have zero chance of success. More skills and more muscle equals win.
Men is built to be competitive and hate to lose in any games.
@@AzrieltheAngel "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good." Gen 1:31
I was training Judo back in my childhood, at 8. There was a very strong girl, same age, and she mostly won on the ground against all of us (boys, girls, child group right).
The whole gym was just wow how strong she is. Couple of years ago, we were ca 12-13, she had no chance against us anymore. She could win only against the other girls and she just quitted. Sooner or later biology shows the hard truth.
It's called puberty
I feel bad for her getting demoralised and quitting from that. Someone needed to explain to her that this is just biology and nothing to do with her worth. And she would still be nailing the fresh meat white belts regardless.
I'm a male and I was larger than most kids my age when I was first starting out with things like Judo and Taekwondo, by 13 I was 5'10 and 180 lbs. It was blatantly unfair to have me in the same classes as kids my own age, there was nothing they could do to me and would just steam roll all of them only because I was that much bigger then all of them. The only person that could beat was the girl I had a crush on and I was just too awkward to wrestle or spar with her.
The people running the school held off on moving me up to the adult class for a while since I would be so much younger and behind in training then everyone else that it be like they were running a whole different class just for me at the same time, but that's what ended up happening.
@@kmfdmman You just made this up.
@@aldendiaz1165 thanks for sharing.
I’d much rather see this than a guy who THINKS he’s a girl competing against other girls. This is a true win/loss, no BS woke crap involved.
i found the q anon guys 😂😂
I was rolling around with girls all Highschool, didn't know I could've lettered...
I wouldn’t have
Haha your awesome
@@jestenaguirre9108 smashing pink tacos daily!!
You earned your Scarlet Letter. 😉
@@jeffmcguffy8380 damn that was clever! 👏😂
Nothing but love and respect for the females that rolled on that mat with me but it always bothered me that athletic programs didn’t promote women’s wrestling in my state. The females had to wrestle us or not at all and that right there shows the heart and courage they had.
Stop simping.
if they "have" to wrestle men it would make sense they pair them with men 25% lighter or something like that, find the sweet spot where it makes it more even so it's more beneficial for both and to avoid unnecessary injuries
If there were girls wrestling boys because no female wrestling program existed, then it was very likely due to a lack of interest (on the part of girls) in a girl's wrestling program.
@@quinzoto smart idea
@@jrhulkyolo2105 Wrong
I'm a woman and I've wrestled against guys in tournaments, let me say everyone in the comments are wrong!!!
Jk! I got my butt rocked. Competing against men ain't no joke. It's crazy it's even done. Had many injuries by being placed in the wrong gender division.
Respect u had the guts to try tho ik alot of guys that were athletic but wouldn't wrestle cause they was scared of getting hurt
My daughter, Reni Gallan, you can Google her, competed just fine. Even against state level boys, giving up weight, in HS. The national level boys, once they hit puberty could dominate, but the rest were fair game.
@scottg6754 why even put your daughter in that position? You've basically taught her she can fuck with anyone, I hope she doesn't use those leasons irl.
@@scottg6754 bs. the boys just went easy
@@scottg6754exception that proves the rule
It can be tough for the young boys cause girls develop quicker than boys. I've seen a couple boys get beat by girls and its pretty sad. Typically those boys who have been taught since they were toddlers to not be rough with girls are naturally timid when stepping on the mat with one. I've seen boys that have decided to get aggressive and end it quick, to eliminate any chance of humiliation and getting booed by the crowd. It's really a lose, lose for the boys.
This is stupid and dangerous, in high school I would have crushed a girls skull, just a matter a time until she meets real power. This should be illegal!
What a weird thing to say…
have to love the enabling, deluded parents with comments like "peel the hand" "be aggressive" etc.. like that is going to matter.
I'd say that was probably the coach doing his diligence and not giving up on his wrestler.
enabling? should you discourage them instead? women may stand no chance against males post puberty, but if they still want to compete and get washed, let em. As long as they're informed on what they're signing up for and understand the odds, if they still want to compete, let them have at it. The only time there is a problem is if there are exceptions made for the female athletes.
@@daethe i agree with your assessment as long as the kids competing haven't been given a false sense of their own capabilities vs their respective opponents. Would be pretty unfortunate if they were getting an earful on the drive home about a)not performing at their best or b)how unfair society is and the misogynistic hierarchy is responsible for their loss instead of basic biology.
Why I hated partnering up with 99% of the girl cops I worked with……..
yup, your life could be at stake.
Life was always at stake. Either they couldn't back you up or you had guys taking unnecessary risks to protect them.
There is a vid of a female boss who explains why she prefers male employees to female ones....
I wanna see those 1% manly lookin chicks. Must have been ferocious
@@matthewviramontes3131 nope…….they could scrap and shoot and wouldn’t quit
WELL NUMBER ONE SURE WASN'T DANCIN' TO THE STARS ON HER WAY BACK TO HER SITTING TEAMATES! THANKS ALOT DAISEY!
Lol, maybe she thought she actually had a chance. What a shitty leg attempt she tried. 😂 She was acting like someone has been telling her she’s just as good as any boy. Lol “daisey” 😆
@@Sprawl1GuitarMan bro she was just excited aint gotta destroy her like that lmfao😂
@@matthewrodriguez257 shit, dude!! My comment shouldn’t destroy her. Maybe she should work on technique, lift some iron, run some stairs at practice, instead of coming in like she’s starring in “The Sound Of Music” 😂 I’m not trying to be an asshole but, I learned, early on to “do your talking on the mat!” Never act like you’re good, because you might get humbled like she did………..go home and work on setting up that leg shot!! Just saying…..
It was truly pathetic. No respect to the opponent. No respect for the sport. Lollipopped her way to the mat. Very fortunate she didn't get her neck popped instead.
What's interesting is, you can visibly see the boys trying to not straddle the girls, and watching their hand placements. So, they were going pretty easy on them.
Yep. A standard breakdown against someone in a table is the "spike & spiral", but you need to reach through the crotch. In each case, the boys avoided this and just leaned into them to break them down to the mat.
I was on my junior high school wrestling team back in the late 70s. A girl came out for the team. Keep in mind this was way before this kind of stuff was commonplace. She wrestled my weight class. I can't even remember the weight class, 110, something like that, so I had to wrestle her every practice. Her technique wasn't bad, and I was no state champion, but I could easily defeat her because it was easy to overpower her. The funny thing was we all got used to her, and over time we didn't think much about the fact that she was a girl. The interesting part was we didn't really have anybody competitive for the weight class above us so she would routinely represent the team at matches at that weight class. She was the only girl so she would weigh in in the girls locker room alone. She would join us after she weighed in. When a we traveled for away matches that's when things got real interesting. She was a spectical. She beat a couple dudes along the way too. We would go nuts, but the other team would be like, "Holy crap, what just happened?" You can get away with combined competition at an early age, but as boys and girls age, the physical differences become more pronounced.
Depends on the weight class and the quality of the girl. My kid when young trashed the then young boys (mostly) but even boys whose voices had changed, she hammered them in HS giving up weight. But to keep it real there was a national level boy
@@scottg6754 that's because they've barely hit puberty
Once it's in full swing - it's over
I barely hit my growth spurt till 2nd half of senior year and graduated at 155 lbs
I topped out at 288 lbs with 19+" untrained arms and multiple 110 kg Raw state records, including the Open.
-growing for another 10+ years past high school.
I had to wrestle a girl in junior high. She was trying to get the JV spot from me. Most of the time that we'd practiced, I'd been nervous worrying about accidentally pressing on her chest and such. And in the first period, I had been in my head a bit with that and hadn't focused enough, so it was fairly even then.
Second period, I got out of my head and quickly saw an easy opportunity for a half nelson, got it, and went straight into a pin. She was obviously not happy.
And right as everyone saw her reaction, some of my teammates said "Man, he should've just let her win.", as if any of them would...
Ain't no way I woulda let her beat me bro, nun wrong with you giving your all. Props to you
If they say that type of crap they ain't your teammates. If anything they should be thankful for having you on their team
@@showmeyourteeth27 how would that ruin your life lol
@@SilvaArmour3000 false claims of groping and the like. all it takes is a sore loser and bam youve got a sexual assault case on your hands.
@@austinfleck6394 in front of spectators and a referee? highly unlikely tbh. but then again, girls and boys shouldn't be competing against each other in a physically, demanding sport like wrestling
I coached at the High School level for a couple of years. I always asked my wrestlers male/female is they wanted to wrestle the opposite sex. I know that I would have hated it when I wrestled. Just being honest.
These refs were giving ridiculous long counts when the girls were clearly pinned.
Just makes the boys tougher.
Imagine a schoolboy faced with dilemma of wrestling a girl. If you win, "Pffft you a beat a girl". If you lose ,you lost to a girl and any masculinity you had is gone. I wrestled in HS before this whole female wrestling crap started and I can tell you that if I had been transported to this day and age any female wrestler I had to face would be destroyed in less than a minute just to prove she has no business on a mat with a guy.
Someone please answer me why a girl can be on a boys baseball, football, basketball, wrestling team and a boy can't be on a girls fastpitch softball team.
Majority of these girls are wrestling bc their aren’t enough female wrestlers to make a bracket for that specific weight class, women just want to enjoy the sport too. Where I’m from it’s not separated bc at every competition there’s a total of maybe 3 other girls aside from me and only one or two in my weight class. If the girl worked hard enough to beat someone who’s naturally more advantaged, why should she have to not participate bc it affects your “masculinity”. You lost fair and square, if you went east on her, or acted “awkward” get over it and beat her next time. I assure you it doesn’t feel good for the girl either when people make comments on being less of a man bc you lost to a girl, so why suggest removing women from men’s division ?
@KenKwn that didn't answer the question. Why exactly should women have that privilege, of just popping in to mens sports when men can't do the same? You minimize the psychological experience of the male competitors. Yet, all we hear about from female swimmers these days is how unfair it is to have Trans women competing against them.. and politicians respond. Think about that.
Thank you for making this comment.
@@frakismaximus3052Right, she definitely didn't answer the question. Pure deflection and typical shaming.
Wait a second this isn't what Captain Marvel led us to believe would happen
I hear what you are saying but don't knock these young ladies. My son's middle school team has two girls. There are not enough girls interested to have a girls' team. Since they are not as strong as the boys, they would be considered "JV" although we do not have a JV team. They get a match every so often when we go up against another school and more so at tournaments where they may have some girl's or mixed exhibition matches as well. They are two wonderful young ladies we have. They come to every practice, every match, every tournament, and are valued team members
The third clip was just too clean!! 👌 fireman carry to a flip on her back was just nicely executed
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I love it! When girls get too cocky, they have to be reminded of reality.
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When they get too cocky they need some c-ck.
Jk
How are they being cokg
Cocky they are being confident
How are they cocky? Freaky ahh
Oh Lawdy Lawdy….6:50….perfection…boy I wouldn’t let that get away from you!
@Bobby Brissette and that's the BS that we always talk about....father's allowing their daughters to do this. It's crazy.
I was wonsering where the thumbnail clip was
@Bobby Brissette that's fine brother...teach your children how to defend themselves..but when you put your daughter in a sport for boys to potentially hurt her or feel her up it's unnecessary.if you have a son that wrestles, in this day and age with all these femenist and "me too movement" our son's really have to be careful where they place their hands ...things can go far left when or if a parent or lil girl gets angry from a loss... accusations of all sorts can be a issue
I had a discussion with a friend that was a highschool wrestler...he told me that if the day ever comes, where boys are taught to see girls in the same way they see others boys on the mat( no holds barred)...those girls will be in a world of trouble
Reminds me of the chest I purchased from Wayfair...
You’re weird as fuck
This is really tough to watch. As someone who was ranked 3rd in the nation in college, and is now a father to 5 daughters, it is incredible to me that the parents (and coaches for that matter) of these young ladies encourage/allow this. Where’s the good/positive in this? These girls are not only risking an exponentially higher threat of serious injury, but emotional trauma for themselves and even possibly their male opponents as well. Wrestling is a fantastic sport and it’s admirable that these girls wish to participate, but in a pure combat sport, it is just not prudent to pit them against males.
What’s your name what college?
@@dylanryan3525 I can’t risk issues with my current career Dylan, but if you are who I think you may be, then that is pretty cool, especially given the circumstances. I assume if it is you, then you’re likely coaching now. Best wishes!
emotional trauma? what are you talking about buddy? i've wrestle 7 years and its probably my favorite thing to do, it might help me be the first person in my family to go to college. what isn't positive about me being in this sport?
@@dorawrestles5895 do you wrestle male opponents as well? Also I hate to ask, but nowadays it is unfortunately a relevant and necessary question, was your gender female at birth?
@@TheCaptainmojo1973 of the hundreds of opponents I've had maybe 10 have been women. We just finally had a womens state sanctioned tournament for the first time ever. Yes i am a female. if you look at my channel it is quite clear that i am a female, at birth or whatever the hell that means.
You can see the intensity with which the boys wrestled these girls and tried to put them away as quickly as possible. Had it gone even close to a full period it would have been embarrassing for the boys regardless of the score.
I used alot of these moves in the back of my 76 cutlass supreme back in high school
Back in our day, (early’90’s) we had a move called “the Saturday night”. You’d lay chest to chest, hook their legs with yours, and push their arms up over their head (so they couldn’t bridge). Some guy’s used it. I never did!! I didn’t feel “cool” with it. 😂
yea and it was with other guys, right?
@@axemanners6643 uh huh. It was just the start of girls in the boys categories. Honestly, I remember telling my coach, “I don’t want to wrestle a girl”. I’m not letting up on her. I’ll break her back.”………I never had to, thankfully.
I bet, you didn't worry about ruining your ears, or hers...
Rocket V8 engine!
Just more proof of why there must be separation of sports. This NWO that is being pushed is going to get someone hurt I’m afraid. That being said, these young ladies are awesome and talented.
They dictate separation of sports in China, Russia and N Korea.
Why not the good ol USA, eh?
@@adventureescape1929 what a moronic comment. Use common sense to try and understand my point.
@@patmash Don't digress into childish insults. Try to communicate in a respectful manner.
Hopefully we can get Donald back in there and he can ban women.
@@adventureescape1929 Hope we do get Don back in office. Banning woman is a silly comment.
Middleschool / Early high school wrestling is about the only time you'll find some even ground before puberty really kicks in and makes the strength/speed disparity too strong.
Back in 2010 I was varsity wrestling coach at high school level. We had girls on our team. If they were matched against a boy at a meet, I always asked them before their match “you okay? It’s fine to forfeit” win or lose or forfeit, our entire team was respectful of what happened next..
soft
telling them to forfeit is pretty disrespectful imo, they signed up for it knowing what they'd face even if they stood no chance, so let them get manhandled
wow you musta been real confident in your coaching abilities
The thrill of "copping a feel" and wrestling the ladies down. Such brutes.
It's a rare girl at this age who can compete on strength and endurance with boys. A separate league is needed for girls in high school wrestling.
Equal rights, Equal lefts
That first one, it looks like the girl in confident 😂😂😂
So we are equal right? Also 6:57 if y'all wanted it out of curiosity. Cuz this is one of the times where the guys had to be careful and still held back.
Girls should never compete with boys. Most women might not understand that most men would unconsciously hold back, but some don’t simply to make a point. I don’t care how empowered you are, if you want to get serious you’ll simply learn how helpless you are. Life isn’t a movie.
I have mixed opinions on all of this. I wrestled in middle school and high school but never faced a girl. For most teenage boys it would be VERY awkward. I will say that in some controlled environment like a self defense class this might be smart. No doubt the girls who wrestle boys can gain a huge advantage in terms of self defense especially when it comes to finding out what men are actually capable of. The life skills you learn from wrestling are also invaluable and the self confidence and humility gained through one on one combat sports are some of the best things a young man can gain. I assume this is true for women also. Sisters and wives of wrestlers also tend to be pretty tough lol! My sisters are all very strong women and my wife is dangerous :)
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Wrestling is such a garbage sport for self defense. I don't find anything humiliating about it, except for the fact it teaches bad habits for a real fight, like giving your back.
@@malachite072 somehow I doubt you have ever been in a real fight. I almost dare you to pick a fight with ANY skilled wrestler.
@@robmangeri777 I've been in many real fights, in prison too. I did wrestling in high school and I hated it. I was not allowed to choke my opponent I was not allowed to do anything. If someone gets behind me I have to give them my ass to not have my back on the ground instead of protect myself. I've never been taken down in a real fight and if I did I wouldn't give my back so the back of my head can be pounded on, f*** no. I already had training before I tried wrestling so I already knew how to fight, plus grappling techniques like sprawling and other stuff are taught in much better martial arts and sports.
@@malachite072 you have to admit that wrestlers are usually tougher people in general. Strategy wise you have to adapt away from competition rules in a real fight which you know. Who makes better fighters than people who wrestled? It isn’t karate that’s for sure. I’m learning some jiu jitsu now and so far wrestling gives me a huge advantage. Thanks for your honesty though.
That intro ...the way that girl come in..is why they will never be better than us
In my junior year, my wrestling practice partner was a girl (same weight class). Whilst she was tough contrary to her feminine appearance, I did feel sorry for her daily bruises and cuts, and went softer in general (and I was a lazy athlete).
I wrestled a total of 3 girls in tournaments. There was one girl who placed 2nd overall, so major props to her. Some girls can take it, but most aren't cut out for contact sports.
Its not good either way, if you win, you beat a girl good job. If you lose, LMAO you lost to a girl good job. There's no winning. A kid in my wrestling room lost to a girl at a tourney and his dad looked like he wanted to disown him right then and there, as my other wrestling friends laughed. I felt so bad...
@@bobross4616 Lol I and my teammates laughed when one of our teammates got techd by a girl wrestler from a crosstown rival. We found out she only had 8 losses to guys and had about 45 wins to her varsity record. Good is an understatement for her.
then those are shit people@@bobross4616
It's a sense of equality. They're simply playing for themselves peacefully and fairly with good sportsmanship. There's no need for pity. There's also no need to let someone you know who is stereotypically weaker than you win. Unless you have to then it is yours and your opponent's game.
This is more like a biology lesson. That being said I wanna see more of this wrestling match
6:56
Me too! Anyone know her name?
Dude, that is someone's daughter
@raterus that's also someone's fapping material
@@raterusmost girls tend to be
In college a girl wanted to play basketball with the guys during our health class. One of the dudes that flirted with her during class took her on 1v1 and accidentally broke her nose when she came in too close to guard him. I still remember hearing it crunch.
Ouch
I’d almost feel bad, but they chose to do it. I don’t understand why they did but they did. There’s 2 glaring differences between the sexes here. Strength and aggression. Testosterone can’t be ignored even if they want to
Anyone who wrestled is a better person after. I couldn’t imagine the impact on confidence among other things a girl could get from putting her physical ability to the test against men who are generally stronger. Just the courage to put yourself out there and seeing what that does for your life is hiuge
Love this. No mercy. Go hard on every match.
Why would you want your daughters to fight boys in the first place?
Insane.
because there were no separate boys/girls divisions in the folk style till recently. Girls wrestle boys starting from Tots and up at the club level folk style. We had situations when we had 2-5 girls in different weight brackets against 400+ boys in the same tournament. If there are enough girls in the same weight bracket to pair them up, they will, otherwise, they'd wrestle boys.
If girls were "quietly waiting in the corner" for a separate division just to happen out of the blue, they'd be waiting till the cows come home. The only reason the folk style scene starts having girls-only teams/events is that there are enough girls now wrestling so they have enough to separate it. The last tournament we went to in WI, they had so many girls participating so they were able to have two girls-only mats set up. And just FYI, there are girls that will give boys a run for their money. Not 1:1 but often enough that it makes it worth mentioning.
To wrap it up, no one seems to have any issues with girls wrestling boys in Judo or BJJ ... what seems to be the issue here?
"Peel those hands off"
Imagine giving technical wrestling instructions to a dude who is currently being destroyed by a gorilla.
You know it is bad when all the coach yells out is "Bridge!!!" lol
My son wrestled a girl in highschool ...but 9 months later they had no choice but to get married
0:29 worst takedown attempt i seen in a long time
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It is all new to those girls, and the guys are as going to be stronger and better. But i have to hand it to those so girls for wanting to as compete, improve here upon the last match as kind of thing. As a guy myself i applaud these gals. I do not hate on them for wanting as to compete. Keep it up! Ladies.
Plus when they do wrestle other girls they will be better because they wrestled the guys
I have played a thousand bar gigs and have seen and heard a LOT of women say to men , "I'll kick your ass.."" Let them watch these videos...these are boys making quick work of these girls, just think what a grown man could do to a grown woman...
Fun fact: since 6th grade, me and my boys used to talk shit about how wrestling was “really gay” cuz it was boys on boys and shit, and we always clowned them. But come 7th grade, we were forced to participate in Olympic Games Day at my school, and we were all obligated to participate in every sport. So when i went to the gym to start the wrestling event for my class, i was taught some techniques by my later to be Coach Rodney Smith, (a former bronze Olympian from Barcelona) and luckily i was partnered with a girl. I learned the half nelson and bulldog and stuff, and then we had to wrestle eachother kneeling down, and i won; and it was then that i said “Hey, this is actually pretty cool” i felt like an actual gladiator when i beat someone wrestling, even if it wasnt anywhere close to the real thing, and so later i signed up. It would take me 2 skirmishes to finally get my first official win, but by that point i was already hooked😌
what you are saying is that you enjoyed the gay stuff you used to mock.
So you're gay 👀😂😂😂
This is brutal. I didn’t make it through 3 minutes.
How in the hell was that brutal ..people with your mind set will be the first to go overboard and ruin a person whole life over dangerous sensitive
Brutally hilarious. I almost cracked a rib laughing so hard.
There are female high school athlete's who are losing scholarships to males who are confused and think they are females
I will say, Ive never wrestled on a team, but these matches look exactly like when i would just overpower my friends growing up by being a solid 40 lb heavier than them at the least. There are obviously outliers, but it rly seems like the difference in muscle structure leads to being what would be 2 weight classes more
Had to wrestle a girl once when I was 16. Coach told me to go easy on her cause she was new but I was so afraid of somehow losing that I just went nuts and pinned her in 8 seconds 😂
I can only imagine that some of these girls got an understanding of how stinky boys can be when trapped in a headlock facing the boy's armpits. 😂
This is so ridiculous...... I don't know why we as a nation allow this. There need to be nationwide walkouts. I won't support any physically taxing sport that competes men against women
The chicks want it. They're taught that stupid mentality that "women can do anything a man can do", and they don't realize that's bullshit until their face has been planted into the ground by a dude.
@@matthewviramontes3131 over and over 😂
This isn't men competing against women. It's women competing against men. There's a difference.
I don't understand why we as a nation let people of your intellect graduate high school (which im sure is a lofty assumption that you did...)
Probably because the woman who is at a natural disadvantage to most guys is actively choosing to do it? You could fight “the rock” if you wanted even though it unfair. The difference is she has the balls to do it and you don’t.
Pinned or not, all who walk on the matt are warriors, and warriors deserve respect.
Warriors and princesses.
No participation medal given here.
The amount of respect I have for just being able to join the sport and put it on the line against men is incredible
I wrestled for 6 years in school and was always in the lighter weight classes and so had to wrestle a handful of girls. It was always a tough situation. Sort of a lose-lose. If you lost, your were done in terms of how the other boys would react! If you didn't win commandingly, you might also face ridicule. In retrospect, this was unfair to the girls. Every girl I wrestled seemed to give it their all. There is no way a girl the same weight as a boy can be as strong. It's so unlikely and rare. So, these girls, despite having significantly less muscle, were out there competing and giving it their all and relying on other possible advantages like speed, agility, technique, and smarts. I really give my praise to these girls. I'll bet many of them lose matches in the double digits and yet continue to compete with the boys. That shows a lot of grit and character. I remember one Jr. Varsity tournament where I was put into the consolation bracket after the first round. While I never wrestled her, the winner of the whole bracket was a girl! She was the daughter of the wrestling coach and was a total animal. Strong, fast, good technique, great endurance, SUPER cute (she was even a cheerleader in the off-season!). I was so glad I never had to directly wrestle her where I'd certainly lose. Now as a father with a daughter who wrestles, I'm happy every time she competes and leaves it all on the mat even if she loses. It would be hard to lose over and over again to others who are typically quite a bit stronger. I really take my hat off and salute these female competitors who continue to give it their all in matches against boys! And even more kudos to those particularly good female wrestlers who beat many male competitors. Wrestling is such a great sport and no one knows how hard it is until they've spent 6 minutes on that mat!
And for the record, this montage of videos is exactly my experience watching *most* male-female matches throughout high school in even a strong wrestling state like KS. Most female wrestlers just get slaughtered in the first round. More reason to give accolades to them for their continued dedication to get back up and try again. I can't imagine how it would feel to work so hard in practice through an entire season and lose probably almost every match every season and yet keep on doing it. That's some grit! I'm glad female wrestling is catching on and some states and schools now have all-female teams and all-female meets and tournaments. It is great to see the top females compete against each other on a more equal footing (in terms of raw strength).
Boy-girl competition is unfair for boys... even it is risky at that age. İn case of a bad lost by pin in front of his family, audience including May be the girl for whom he feels something; it May cause a real damage in his soul.
To lose against a girl in any other sport would not be so bad; even it fight sports based on hits or impact the hits are counted and a girl having equal chance to make a punch would not humiliate the boy by defeating him.
But wrestling is based on control of the opponent's body.
Why are they wrestling together? I must have missed something. Isn't there separate girls competition?
funny thing to note most people dont know.. wrestling in hs is based on matching weight so both wrestlers were probably 135lbs or something which means pound for pound you have men completely dominating women
I never had an opponent skip out to the center.
😂. That made me giggle. It was no question who was going to lose that match. Smh
Did that every match 😆
Equality at its best
1:24 is when I expected a parent to run out onto the mat lol!!!
ive never seen that before. steamroller
The girl that was skipping in at the beginning… then just got her ass pinned in 10 seconds 🤷♂️😂
Whoever makes these videos seriously has a superiority complex
I love that flip toss 😉. PWND
Can you give me full link of 6:32 match?
yeah FBI... this guy right here, he's the one you're looking for.
@@Splincir LMFAOOO
Crap I blinked!
Thanks! It was quite refreshing to see the TYPICAL outcomes of boy vs, girl wrestling matches than the typical cherry picked TH-cam crap of “girl pins boy in wrestling”, “girl humiliates boy on wrestling mat”, “girl puts boy in painful spadle”, yada, yada, yada. In fact I’m even surprised that TH-cam allowed this video to be posted!
go cry to the ceo about it maybe he listen to ur pleas
A guy should never, ever, have to worry about what his hands might touch or brush up against in these matches.
It's almost impossible to do this sport without arms and hands touching private areas. If a girl chooses to be in such a male-dominated sport, then that's on her.
I had to wrestle a girl in high school. It was the most nervous I ever was for a match. I was 189 weight class and she was wrestling up from the 171 class but was closer to 160. Pinned her as quickly and gently as I could. We had a lot of girls on the team for the early 2000s and some actually beat boys a few times. It was nice when the opposing teams would have girls so they could wrestle each other.
I was a wrestler in high school I wrestle one girl three time in 112 I did not show any mercy I did not want to touch her inappropriately so I just pin here fast. Second match had with this girl I just went technical pin. Beating her by 15 point
So long ago I used to date a woman who worked for the FBI. She was not an agent, but was out in the field as such had to go through the self-defense training. One of the things they practiced was being down on the ground, a person on top, and they had to escape. She gets matched up with this man in her class, and she has to start flat on her belly with him on top of her. They're wrestling and twisting, really going at it. She said she did OK, that while she was not able to escape she was able to get her arms free or something like that. Funny thing was, the instructor blows the whistle after a couple minutes and they both stand back up, and he's got a huge hardon poking out of the front of his little FBI gym shorts. Afterwards all the women in the class were like, "I'm never hooking up with that guy!"
Poor guy.
Well what did they expect, didn't they know that it can be an involuntary response especially he's wrestling a female that might be ovulating and secreting pheromones on her body? Kinda childish behavior on the class.
I only wrestled one year, and never against a girl, fortunately. I'd have refused on principle. But a guy on my team did. He was a skinny, long-haired, goth kid, who decided to go out for wrestling, his first year trying it, same as me. I don't know the experience level of the girl, but _she_ looked _very_ athletic. He pinned her so fast... it was the fastest pin I'd ever seen. And I'd never seen him try _that_ hard, because you know he was desperate. He was in an existential panic.
Our team was all guys, and I think we all felt _immensely relieved_ when he pinned her. If he had lost... nobody would have said anything about it. Some shames are too deep. It would never have been mentioned. And that would have been the worst shame of all - to do something unmentionable, unspeakable, and have to be among the people who know. He would have turned into a dark horror in his bones. He would condemn himself, and no possible words could persuade him not to. He would wish somebody would bring it up, so he could defend himself.
I remember feeling horrified _for_ him, to have to face even that _possibility._ He was subject to that, and we were not. I didn't know the guy, wasn't friends with him - don't remember ever speaking to him. But I was _so glad_ for him that he didn't go down like that. To lose to a girl, I think, would destroy a young man's self-image and self-esteem.
And that kind of feeling is not cultural. It's not something that can be undone by brainwashing. It's the psychological end of sexual dimorphism. We have different shapes, for different purposes.
How come consideration of _that_ is off the table? Nobody ever considers the male perspective. But I do. How come we don't think about what happens to a young man, when a girl _does_ beat him; because girls _do_ sometimes win. We all start life weak. We're supposed to be _encouraging_ the maturation process in young men, into pillars of the community, into potential warriors, should need arise - not shaming them for starting weak.
If you're a parent putting your daughter into wrestling against boys, maybe think about what it does to the boys she beats. It's not just about her, and whether or not she _can_ win. There have always been guys who don't have that athletic ability; and you may be able to train your daughter to beat them. But is that a _good_ thing to do?
Boys sometimes don't know any better than to shame the non-athletic boy, the boy who's maybe into daydreaming and art, or whatever, and sucks at sports. That's called bullying, and should be discouraged. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. But as grown-ups, you shouldn't be setting up other people's boys for shame, by training your daughter to beat them in a fight, in front of other people - especially in this age of social media. That has to feel totally different from getting beat by another boy.
There's what is _possible,_ and there's what is _appropriate._ The two are not the same. Compassion and good will should be our guide stones to what is appropriate and what is not.
Would you raise your son to go around publicly shaming below-average looking girls for their looks? After all, it's _true_ that 50% of girls are below average in looks. Why not go around pointing out the ugly girls to everybody, publicly shaming and humiliating them for it? Because it's _cruel,_ that's why. It's fucking cruel.
Well, maybe cruelty isn't the most ideal method of raising boys either. Hardship with honor and comradery, yes. Struggle, yes. Competition among them, yes, even with the inevitably resultant hierarchy. A hierarchy among males can be a healthy thing. Recognition of differences, yes. Orienting each boy towards his native strengths, yes. Setting the bar slightly out of reach to encourage progress, yes. But cruelty?
When a boy is beginning to make forays into his budding masculinity, wanting to try out for the wrestling team for the first time, wanting to explore his maleness and test himself against other males - to then march girls out onto the mat to out-masculine him... this is no good.
I agree with everything you said. It's just a little lengthy.
@@Bradley9967 Yes, but I think you mean, *"Yes,* I agree with everything you said, *but* it's just a little lengthy." :D
@@brindlebriar Your correction isn't incorrect, but it's unnecessary. Brad's comment is fine. BTW, I did not read 90% of the original posting for reasons that will remain unspecified.
@@tarico4436 Yes, but, I think you mean, *'Yes,* your comment is correct, *but* it isn't necessary. Brad's comment is fine.'
Who is Brad?
@@brindlebriarWhat is wrong with you?
wait a second, I thought there wasn't a difference between men and women. 🤣🤣🤣
They they don't have separate competition for boys and girls?
I live in Oregon and I remember my freshman year beating the girls 220 state champ like it was nothing. That’s when I realized this just isn’t fair.
I practiced with the girls all the time at my school lmao. Even had to go up against some. I could never go all out
That's the thing
Some situations
Of you didn't go all out you are considered weak
And if you go all out and just beat her with 0 difficulty people will say you should've let her win cause she's a woman
@@historystory369 never had this problem
@@jameswtlocs your lucky trust me
What's the point of this from the male competitor's perspective? I get that women can get better by being matched - training with larger, stronger opponents and then when they face off against women of their same size, it might give them an edge. However, the boys can be sloppier in their technique and just power out of holds and smother the females.
Agreed. I saw ALOT of sloppy moves from the boys. Going in for a takedown is not supposed to look like a diving competition. Instead of doing the moves properly, most of them just muscled through everything to get the win. They would get turtled against another male wrestler. I have flashbacks of my coach making us drill the basics until they became a part of our DNA. Not sure what's going on at these wrestling practices...
b/c there's rarely a girl's wrestling team and these girls wanted to wrestle. what's wrong with that?
Never said there was anything wrong. I actually commend these young ladies for getting into that sport. IMHO, it's the most difficult collegiate sport. The fact that they (and the young men) are willing to put themselves thru that training and competition is praiseworthy. With that being said, one of the things that my coach stressed on us was that if your opponent is stronger than you, outclass them with speed and technique. The vast majority of the girls in this video had much sloppier technique than the guys. Whether it falls on the girls or their coaching, that needs to be addressed.
@@RetinalPurge wasn't talking to you
@@SandaBoxing ah, fair enough. I stand corrected, my good sir.
never seen someone skip into the arena and not get pinned. She made me laugh fr
I know the results for the ladies weren't very good , but I love the fact they are competing . You got my respect.
People in America got sick of what is happening? Who has heard of woman and man wrestling.
Years ago we were playing sand volleyball. My gf at the time though she could wrestle me down. I stepped through her hold and we heard her knee go POP! lol. I guess she never tried that again. Lol
Pin nation
That Fireman’s carry in the 3rd match was the first “throw I’ve seen in these videos.
Boys……you need to use these opponents to practice techniques, like throws and balance maneuvers.
I see these boys, simply “muscling” them over with the power half. These opponents are like the throwing dummies in the wrestling room. Their purpose, for you, is to develop your strengths and work out your weaknesses. Let’s go, Boys!!
i'll "love muscle" you
Here Here! 🍸
No end it as quick as possible to show how "fair" this is. Do a huge flip and smack then on the ground. Apparently someone has to get hurt before people start believing in biology again. So I say let's get it over with. Do a huge burst and end it. So no one can doubt the fairness of the fight. Don't toy with them that is disrespectful. It is not like any of these ladies was going to win anyway....
A) this is pointless, girls wrestling guys, B) I wish people in the audience would stop yelling advice to the contestants.
At 3:20 you can see before the match starts who will win. The boy (in green) is much more muscular, taller, and overall physically fit than the girl (in blue) who has much less muscle mass, shorter, and obviously less physically fit. The fact that they're in the same weight class is astonishing. Even if they were on the same level of wrestling skill, his strength and size gives him an obvious advantage.
I never knew intergender wrestling was so common. My high school didn't have wrestling and my college didn't have wrestling. So I know very little about it.
I would never let either of my daughters do this.
wow you must be a terrible parent to not believe in your very own offspring
@@dorawrestles5895 what a ridiculous comment.
The first girl literally killed me. I was embarrassed for her. Who skips onto the mat?
I don't think she was skipping. I mean she physically was, but not what you're thinking. I'm pretty sure she was mimicking the Olympic (NCAA??) runner who warms up that way.
Well it’s a child sooo
My neighbor's daughter was the state high school wrestling champion in her junior year. She had college programs talking to her about committing. She is GOOD, and for fun, she went up against a incoming freshman boy, two weight classes under her, and two years wrestling experience (she has 12, she was wrestling before she was in first grade, and has competed in, and out of school since she was 6). She told her father that her goal was to hold her own and not get pinned. She made it about 15 seconds before she was taken down, and another 10 seconds before she was pinned. If the liberals get their way, she will be on the mat with boys (pretending to be girls) in her weight class, and it will be the end of girls wrestling.
This is what happens when you talk about equality of gender, genders are never equal, it should be equality of outcomes.
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Sure, the occasional girl can be competitive (one in a few hundred), but these results are the norm. Why does our society pander to the very few and make the majority pay the penalty.
Oh no the majority have to pay the penalty of what? Feeling uncomfortable? I’ve faced many girls in my life from the age of 7 through my high-school career. Maybe it’s just because I had decent parents but I was never uncomfortable outside of the feeling of not wanting to lose to a girl. Boys are going to be in a lot more uncomfortable situations in life than having to wrestle and touch a female that is making the choice to go out there and step on the mat for a wrestling match. Get over it
I miss the good old days when boys wrestled and girls were cheerleaders for the wrestlers.
Why don’t you want girls to wrestle?
@@Heytheredelisandwich the same reason I shouldn't run track on the girls team, because it's not fair. I'm not against girls wrestling, I'm against girls wrestling boys.
@@chevysilver-ray-dough6328 Most states, like The southern states (Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, etc) they don’t have separate tournaments. My team had a female in high school that chose to wrestle as many guys in varsity as she could (she earned it through beating another of my teammates in a wrestleoff). She’s always the talk of the school now because she and another girl (who was not even close to her level) did it and put in work. She did good enough to qualify at the girls and boys section tournament in NY. She said it was incredibly tough to even get a decent seeding because she was a girl and because her record wasn’t perfect like some of the guys. Like a few guys were undefeated in the section but they didn’t have to deal with being a girl wrestling 30 guys. She did. As a matter of fact, and I love telling this story because it’s real, she still wound up upsetting the #3 and #4 ranked wrestlers in the section and she pinned the one in the third after a reversal and tilt. She also won 14-9 over the #4 ranked wrestler in the second round. Honestly, if all the college teams were balanced and there was 5 women for 9 guys. I bet at least 3 girls are losing their matches by pins or techd and the other is winning by either decision or by major decision (winning my 7 or more points). The rest is up to the guys. Lol.
The gorgeous girl in the thumbnail is at 6:29
Some beautiful transitions there. Ankle pick to head and arm without even throwing a head and arm. Fireman's to cradle that fell together seamlessly. Were there any double legs to honeymooners? I didn't watch the whole video.
In this world of equality and diversity we no longer should differentiate into mens and womens sports. They should be combined and all treated as equals. For example, if you have a Tennis tournament the men and women all play each other till there's an winner. Simple, all treated equal.