Any OG Jing Yuan gamers? IMPORTANT NOTES: - Technique is actually good to use in most scenarios (Tingyun in MoC, 0 cycle clears), and should be used, very sorry! It isn't good in some other scenarios, which is what I was used to (When you want to delay LL, Yukong tuning) So use Technique in most cases, especially with Tingyun, my bad! And thanks for the corrections!
Been using him since the start. Improving his clear time from barely 10 cycles to now 0-1 cycle has been a blast. Now I wait for his rerun and get his LC
Here I am and when I was planning to pull topaz because numby I was very gratefully surprised to see her kit would synergize with the general so… next acquisition will be before dawn after trying my luck on silver wolf for the seele team
Jing yuan main here, I pulled his lightcone because I loved his design, now he his my main damage dealer since 1.0, I've used him so much I can't imagine myself playing the game without him, I even pulled topaz just to use him even more, I also have imbibitor lunae with his lightcone but I like jing yuan even more than him even though he is weaker
I mean yeah hes not even bad to begin with. With this new relic set, topaz, and moc buff, he rises to the top even more. He was supposed to be low S tier before for me, but now hes high S tier. Still not stronger than Jingliu tho because she is just blatantly overtuned but im happy with his placement
@@mehmetenescetin2182 lmao fr i love the lady and wouldve pulled regardless of how strong or mid she was gonna be but while im happy shes strong i cant help but point out that she is overtuned with no caveats whatsoever and shouldnt be used as a benchmark to compare other units. At least dhil needs 3 sp for that kind of dmg. Girl is sp neutral 💀
@@ra6765 Das me back in day when the man in topic is released. I proved my Loyalty to him im glad u didnt had to go through that. I also find their difference way smaller than we all think.
He was my first limited 5-star unit. After fully building out my MOC teams I can now focus on my original goal in this game: pulling for the hottest men Star Rail has to offer. 😂
He's always been my favorite char, I'm so glad he's got so much better! I feel like he's in the sweetspot of being incredibly satisfying with his performance, but not being so strong to the point of pressuring people who don't like him into getting him.
even during all the "mid Yuan" drama my JY was wrecking. he's the whole reason i got into the game and my whole account has revolved around him since before his release. i regret none of it, he was a blast to build and SUPER satisfying to use. will E6 eventually
Mostly the global community called him mid. CN community has been loving him and his team is consistently on the top 3/5 on the fastest clear cycle since his release. Funny enough thanks to the current MoC blessing his team is currently 1st place fastest clear surpassing DHIL team on the 2nd
Well built JY mains knows what’s up. All that mid yuan drama are for the people who either hate him or have no clue. He performs more than okay for me personally and I don’t feel like I was duped into pulling/investing in him. The doom posters are all sheeps. Clueless fucks tbh. And this game isn’t even hard.
@@dohnaseekthis!! Hes never been bad. Yes powercreeped by JL but thats just her being blasted and also erudition is just a sadly weaker path. That being said, investing in his team is SO comfy. He is only second to blade for my account in terms of comfort and his team comps directly complements blades too which works great for me. So happy to see his return
I related to you on such a personal level I thought I had commented this myself. I just didn’t relate to the E6 part, I think I’m satisfied with E0S1. Atm I’m just missing Fu Xuan to close his team (lost 50/50 and used guaranteed on Topaz, also didn’t regret), so I’m preparing myself for her rerun now after pulling Ruan Mei. I wish best of luck to us, Jing Yuan’s enjoyers!!
As a JY fan since day 1, I've gotten a e6 Tingyun, e1 Fu Xuan and Topaz S1 and he feels amazing. Yeah thats a lot of buffs, but it's worth it because they're all characters that help him out and help other teams a bunch too. Overall, I just love him and all the love the game has
Bringing home Jing Yuan as my first 5* character is one of my happiest Star Rail memories lol. I have 140+ tickets saved up for his rerun currently, I will do anything to make him happy and strong
Jing Yuan is my most comfortable character to play as since I can deal with mobs and single target at once, not to mention his team allows me to always have sp for him to use. And, he’s the best breaker in the game
hope this doesn't sound bizarre but you're definitely my favourite sr cc who makes content like this. your infomation is always clear and concise, your voice is nice to listen to, and your pixel art is cute :). i wish you all the best!
I've got him, Seele, and Daniel but to this day I still use him the most! He and danny boy are my go to's in MOC, danny takes simulated universe runs, and jing yuan runs just about everything else. His combo with tingyun, bronya, and now huohuo has been so nice and I couldn't be happier with how he's turned out. it's nuts to think about how much he gets trashed on in some communities. JY4L
@@Ikuragawell i regret getting jingliu... That pity could be used for E6 danil later when he rerun and jingliu gameplay is a no for me, she end up killing my team and need loucha both so end up not using her and use dan heng B4 instead for MOC
JY has always been my main dps. He was the first character I maxed out traces on (the second was topaz) and I'm having so much fun with LL just coming down and wrecking face. still living in the new cavern to get good gear for him and topaz, but I'm super amped he just keeps getting better and better.
Been using him consistently ever since he came out for his simple but effective playstyle. Plus I love his VA is Jotaro in JP. He’s so nice to auto farm lol
He has always been a top DPS since Day 1 and he's better than ever now because most of his weakness has been nullified. He was the only limited DPS who couldn't use Bronya to buff his main source of damage, now Topaz does that job and with Huo Huo energy regen added with Asta's speed boost or Ruan Mei boosting both speed and his already hideous break potential, makes him part of the fastest team in MoC
Bro same here. I just started playing a month ago, but I really want him in my team. He's my favorite character so far. Him, Kafka, and then lastly Loucha.
Managed to get full star clears about 2 months in with just Jing + Sushang/welt main dps (using breakfast LC). I have to admit that it was hard to call him good, but it was always enough if you knew what you were doing (you won't get speedrun clears most of the time but it works). Had friends confused why they couldn't even with more meta chars. Unlike Genshin, most of the chars here are very viable which is pretty cool
I would actually compare him to Cyno instead (not because they happen to share the same Eng VA lol) Both are limited 5stars, both considered mid by community, they both have some quirkiness and odd drawbacks compared to other units, both need a little bit more help from supports and both are still quite powerful
@@quanticador1103 Also don't forget the white hair. Funny enough, the same EN VA is voicing Akihiko from P3R, which is *another* white haired character.
Been clearing content just fine with him since I got him day 1. LL can be annoying to play around at times but have you ever watched a 10 stack fully buffed LL just drop Celestia Nails onto the enemy? Incredibly satisfying. All Hail The Jing! That said, I really wish you went slightly more in depth on Lynx since her cleanse is on demand too and you basically have it up whenever you need it to cleanse JY since he isn't always guaranteed to be stunned and after LL in initiative. She provides skill points and can hold all of the great support sets
Thats true, maybe im running lynx on the wrong build but i always struggle w having her ult up consistently without bombing my SP. Any tips on general builds for her? I do have both of the 5* healers (ignoring BL), but i want to try building the others esp since lynx has the taunt mech
Skipped Seele at launch to try and get our General, finally got him after losing a 50/50 as f2p so I couldn’t get his light cone, played with him for a bit with bailu, tingyun and asta but then stopped playing for a few months, came back for Topaz and just recently pulled Huohuo, still farming for the best relics but this is the best the teams felt since I’ve been playing him, we love Our General
I'm happy that JY finally buff back again because i managed to clear moc 10 with him. he's just so good with fuxuan. hoping for rerun soon for his sign lc. looks so funny when everyone hating on JY because of mid before this and was overshadow by blade and dhil
Whoever lets me use their Jing Yuan every day thank you friend. You’re helping me to get through a lot of resin every day and setting me up for later game as a newer player collecting resources. One day I’m definitely gonna get him tho 😍
bunnysuit jingyuan for the win, amazing work guoba. there are 2 things i wished were added to this video. 1) damage distribution between his skill + ULT and his follow up talent percentage wise, in terms of ST and AOE scenarios:- this might help people not sleep on his non follow up dmg. 2) just a little bit more clarification on why the technique isn't recommended:- i've tried all the jingyuan playstyles, be it 8 stack lightning lord or 10 stack lightning lord, the results were you will only get 1 lightning lord per cycle, regardless if you optimize AV or not. which is why you always want to 10 stack it by JY moving twice. other than those 2 minor details that are entirely really not fundamental, i think you did JY justice😙
I have him but didn't really use him since I didn't really enjoy him as much in the beginning. But, now I can clear MoC pretty high (hit or miss on stage 10) consistently, and I have been playing with Himeko, who I also disliked gameplay wise but now I found myself to be enjoying her gameplay quite a bit. Will definitely return to Jing Yuan and see how it feels to play him, now that I actually have stuff built up to help him
I've honestly been considering going for jy when his rerun happens considering I have topaz (and he's just really cool). I'm a Kafka gamer so the idea of focusing on dot units and followup units over traditional top dps seems fun
You should! Topaz is by no means a must (altho her being able to go sp positive is huge), but i totally agree that non-faceplant damage is super fun (i have ILDH but LL is way more fun to watch).
About technique - if you run with TY you want to always use it, because it perfectly synergises with TY's ult at the start of the fight, allowing to get 10 stacks LL and then resets the rotation.
This was great. I have been looking for an updated Jing Yuan guide for a while now. He is still the most effortlessly cool general but a lot has changed from the early days, so it’s great to get up to date advice. Surprised to hear one shouldn’t get those LL stacks before the battle. I’ve been doing that every time. Not sure my brain is functional enough for the more optimal speed building (I usually just run him with E2 Bronya, E6 Tingyun and now swapped Bailu for HuoHuo.) Needing to update character guides kind of proves that HSR is a good game. They care for the older units too, giving them new ways to get better or be played differently. I lost the 25/75 last time and didn’t have enough jades saved to pull more. But when he returns definitely going for the LC with a vengeance.
Its just from what ive seen in game, and heard from JY mains, with the technique it ruins the first turn where you setup for the 10, and ult overcaps to 11, so dunno how worth it is. Maybe im wrong lol. Gl on your pulls!
@@guobacertified is overcapping really that big of an issue, when in many cases the technique use is just free? like, yeah maybe a small waste of ult but eh, if they die - they die
Its not, and the technique use is fine, its for delaying LL where I dont like using the technique, but I didnt address that in the vid. So the technique is fine, sorry! Ideally with Tingyun though, otherwise you wont get ult and lose stacks since LL will be too fast
After putting him on the bench for a while, ive been enjoying him a lot recently. Getting some cracked pieces from the new set probably had something to do with it....
@@guobacertifiedi spend over 1700 condensed reisin on the domain gettingg rly unlucky got him on 83 cr with 143 cdmg ( paired with his trace / fu im capped crit and i got e1 fu so 163 cdmg and 100 crit rate is gucci but im still rocking purple atk boots ( using him with asta / tingyun ) ( plus got his signature cone ) i went hard on him for release them benched him for jing liu amd now hes back in my team gotta love em!
I played alot when the game came out and built up a lot of tickets for him to be my first 5* banner nab and was thrilled when I did. But i fell off with other games and am only now returning. This is great to help guide me on who to get with him especially because i missed out on a lot of other characters.
@homudarkThat was never the reason for why it became so common. People just need to latch on to something as "worse" to justify their preferences being "better". It doesn't matter if it's true in practice.
@homudarkon one hand im genuinely curious on how he still underperforms with such a complete setup vs a secret vow blade (mine performs relatively the same with e0s0 and e3 asta against e0s1 blade with bronya) and on the other hand your reasoning of "doesnt feel to good to play" is understandable because he isnt gonna suit everyones playstyle
@homudark I dunno man, I've been using him since day 1 with less investment than you and he has never struggled to do his part in MoC, even with Daniel on the other side. Maybe his team will take a couple cycles more, but I have never once thought he underperformed to a degree that felt like it was hurting my progress. And this was all before all the recent buffs like Topaz and Huohuo and the new set. I've tried plenty of other characters, because I like playing around with different teams, but the Jing Yuan/Topaz comp has easily become my favorite/most fun now. My Daniel team is strong, but it is more boring, because it's all about funneling everything in to Dan to ECB3. Hypercarry comps just are never as fun, and I'm glad they are becoming less the only real option.
@homudark If you think Topaz is mid then we're never going to agree on anything. She is fantastic and absolutely my favorite character to play in the game. She completely reinvigorated my enjoyment of the game when it was becoming pretty routine. If you enjoy being an extreme meta slave to the point you can only accept being able to 0 cycle MoC10 then that's your business. But you live in a very niche part of the community. There are 0 advantages to that accomplishment, so if you're not having fun and pulling characters you think are boring I would rethink how you approach the game.
Jing Yuan is my first 5 star character and main. Seeing him getting indirectly buffed by released characters and relics makes me hyped. With Fu Xuan, Ting yun, and Huohuo in the team I think he will perform at his best in any given situations he encounters. I'm not saying Jing Yuan's now better than any 5 star but i'm just generally happy for my boy and still cope at the corner everytime he's powercreeped. (I'm a happy coping Jing Yuan main, I skip banners to pull buffers.)
There are more than just 140 speed threshold for him. It is also 170 and 200 threshold which you can achieve by having Bronya (virtual speed) or Asta on hackerspace. 140 speed allow 2 turns before LL with the pattern of E E-Ulti for 10 stacks. 170 speed which is achieve by having speed boots and TY asta allow the attack pattern of E-Ulti (Or Ulti-E) E for 10 stack. This will speed up the LL quite a bit and fits well with the tech opening of JY as his first turn will be Ulti-E leaving him at 35 energy. Then he clear the wave/kill enemy, TY buffing him ultimate again and he get to his turn using skill and get enough energy for another ultimate rightaway, it will be the E-Ulti. And with the speed buff from asta and TY he will get to the threshold and E again before the LL move and this also make him at 35 once again ready for another TY round if she is fast enough. And she should be fast with wind set so she get 2 turns in cycle 0 wave 1 before the LL move and generate 1 more skill point, get 1 more turn for her to channel the ultimate. 200 speed requires specific setup to get. It requires 135 speed JY, lvl 12 Asta hackerspace and TY buff to get. To do this you need to use JY ulti right after the LL move or at the wave starts, then with all these buff, his effective speed will be 200 for that one turn allow him to get another E before LL. The pattern is now Ulti (after LL move or wave start) then E and E. However, this is usually very bad because all of the speed buff will run out and he will not be able to get 2 turns before LL in the next cycle (but it worth a try in 0 cycle attemp I guess). So reaching over 135 speed for JY is not recommended. Rather him not reaching that speed he will move shortly after the max speed LL and speed up the LL next cycle while being able to move again before it move for another 2 skill. With how many way to manipulate the "average LL speed" there are many way to speed tune the support around him to maximize the value. Like setting up the Past and Future LC into LL and JY right after for huge bonus damage in YK JY team. Different in the timing of JY ulti affects how fast the LL is heavily so there are ton of way to circumvent his limitation int your benefits. Like as mentioned above with TY, even with tech opening you can get TY (and other support like asta) to move before the LL move in the first wave which generate more skill point and energy for themselves. And JY doesn't need the 2nd turn to clear the first wave will benefits himself a lots for the 2nd wave as the TY buff has yet to run out so TY can have another free turn to attack before having to buff JY energy again and his buff up time will be better overall (Asta speed buff or Bronya ulti buff is still there at 2 turn for example). Those are things he rarely get talked about. 2 turns ulti JY should be the standard for calculation and measurement I think if he is TY team. It is totally not hard to get it for him considering how easy it is to abuse TY wave 1 stuff to get extra hit/turn and the basic team with 0 speed JY and Asta TY can achieve that quite consistently. There is a very huge different in the rotation damage between 10 stack LL and 8 stacks or 7 stacks and it is even more important in 0 cycle meta. If not in TY team he can be in HH team for 3 turns ulti. Beside that team the next top is probably JY TP Asta/Hanya/Bronya/Mei and hh for 3 turns ulti. If you use TP for JY, may as well going for AOE buffer to get the best out of both carriers. HH will allow everyone to get 3 turns ulti cycle which is very good and consistent. Oddly enough as people think JY is TY dependant, he manage to break out of the TY team comfortably now with topaz
my jing yuan is pretty much built with 141 speed around 90% crit rate with fuxuan, and 180 crit damage on the new set but i'm really excited about what teams new characters like hanya open up!i might make a second build with attack boots to try her out. anyway this guide is really good, i feel like a lot of people don't know that 134 speed is very workable with just e1 tingyun as a sole buffer and you usually consistently get 10 stacks really consistently
Thanks for this video, especially the tips on speed. JY is my favorite character and go to guy in MoC and SU so it's nice to see him get some appreciation again. I think the whole thing about LL's random hits is a little overblown. It's not something I've ever had a real problem with. My biggest problem in the past was crowd control, but any DPS can have that happen and it's always annoying. Fu Xuan has pretty much solved that problem for me and I also have Luocha if i need to switch up my sustain units in teams. I just made my Luocha faster so hopefully he'll be even better at cleansing debuffs.
skipped seele + sw to grab jing and before dawn in 1.0 and don't regret it for a moment, he's been my go to dps even after getting dhil. he's just so comfortable to play and is versatile enough to bring to any kind of content without worry.
Thanks for all the content, Guoba! It's always a joy to watch, and super informative too! 💕 Jing Yuan is the only event DPS I play; along with Clara, Qingque, and well-built supports, he's helped me steamroll all the content in the game. I got taken in by the "JY powercrept, can't clear without whale level investment" stuff early on (which I now would argue bordered on straight-up misinformation) and felt a bit bummed, because he's my favourite character tied with Tingyun, but after fully investing in my guy and getting used to his playstyle, I can't help but be satisfied. Not only is he clearly fluffier than any other character, which is a meta consideration many people forget to take into account, he's made a voiced appearance in every single story update to date, as well as getting indirect buffs with every patch in the form of new teammates and relics. He seems to be quite beloved by the devs, and certainly by me as well. I'm f2p so I instinctively skipped his weapon on release, but will definitely be saving up to get it on his rerun, or maybe even multiple copies for Qingque and Himeko too. I get that there are some aspects of his kit that are a little clunky, but the backloaded damage is actually quite satisfying, and the design feels super deliberate. You use his true AOE skill+ult to wipe out mobs/adds, allowing for LL to focus on any remaining bosses or elites. It feels satisfying to tee up those big hits, and gives him a surprising amount of flexibility for an AOE-focused character. The only time it doesn't feel as good to play him is if I get a simulated universe run going with a lot of speed and action-advance blessings, because you'll just watch him take 20 turns in a row while LL waits politely in the wings. If his LL could take action immediately upon reaching 10 stacks that would be seriously amazing… but maybe too imbalanced, haha!
JY main since day one, definitely agree that JY Topaz Tingyun Huo Huo feels the best to play right now. I love this character so much. Thank you for this guide!
I'm looking foward to his rerun, I couldn't get his arti back on release, but I'm happy that he is getting better over time, definitely a underrated unit.
LL loses priority after 2+ targets at 3 targets and later JY himself deals more of his dmg actually. we found he is generally superior with atk boots on every way unless u run him with topaz at duo dps set up or at solo dps calculations. I mained him back in 1.0. I spent 180 pulls to pull his e0 which has pretty low chances (which is around 1 in 196 trillion chance) to happen. U really are the top dog of this community man. Ure loved at least by myself.Take care of yourself and deliver those bangers.
The 25% CDMG is for LLord not the rest, unless you have proof otherwise? Cause testing showed its just for LLord. ATK% boots is worse DMG and less stacks until you get SPD / advance buffers from testing and calcs, but since we got so many they turn out great :) Thanks for the nice comment
@@guobacertified I burned the whole kitchen my bad. It used to show that extra 25 percent crit dmg after 6 stats at main stats menu back in 1.1-1.2 now it doesnt my bad again(It was most likely a bug or a secret nerf :) ). And atk boots is with support units of course i dont think anyone would run him without supports unless u run him with the clearly superior BREAK build. Also bro ure so fast at commenting i still am in shock i am ur fan.
I do think its sorta funny how this video explains JY's kit while literally everyone who have him have gotten him for a few months already Especially since his first rerun isnt out yet literally the only way to own him was to have played around 5 months ago and pulled him then
Also can I just say, the pixel art gets better with every single video! Guo Yuan's armour looks stunning. It looks like you're enjoying the process, so I hope that's true, because we certainly are!
I loved Jing Yuan when he first released and I've been using him regularly because I like an Elation team for my weekly SU clears. I was very excited for this patch, but relic farming has been nothing but pain so far. Oh well, just a matter of time, I will get a good follow-up relic set eventually. I also picked up Huo Huo after failing to get FX and have been super happy with her. It feels like she super-charged my teams, since I didn't have Luocha either.
I pulled Jing Yuen when he came out and I regret nothing! I pulled his E1 and his weapon to boot. I struggled getting him happy artifacts but that's at peace now. Oddly enough I run him with Gepard/Blade/Luocha and they can just maul anything to death. I went on the journey to get Asta and Tigyun in tip top shape for him.
That set got my Jing Yuan from 45k to 110k damage on lightning lord... I didn't think it would make that big of a difference, but i think i just got more lucky with the substats this time
I run JY, Silver Wolf, Pela, and Du Xuan and they are pretty good for Jing Yuan since their debuff duration is tied to the enemy's turns, which means being able to take multiple turns against an enemy allows for consistent debuff uptime (especially for Pela). That helps with the skill point usage too from my experience
I've regretted not pulling him on release ever since I got my first QQ, Seele is just collecting dust on the bench and I'm desperate for Jing Yuan's rerun
Have been a fan of him since day 1. King Yuan as my main dps for my 1st team and (Jing Yuan E0S1, Ting Yun E6, Lynx E0, Asta E5) Waifu Jing Liu as my main dps for my 2nd team (Jing Liu E1S1, Luocha E0S1, Luocha E0S1, Pela E6) made MOC like a joke 😂😂
I ignored Seele and got him as my first limited + his light cone. Lots of Jingyuan mains laud his synergy with Fu Xuan, but Huohuo is very strong as well.
I jsut used like 10 fuels to farm jingyuan's old recommended set (the lightning one) not knowing there was THE GRANDE DUKE SET, NOW I HAVE TO FARM A WHOLE NEW DIFFERENT SET FOR HIM HELP.. but like this video was so helpful THANK YOU..
Hello, I want to have some clarification at 8:08. If Asta wants 3 turns each 2 Jing Yuan turns, it's actually 195 SPD. The faster Jing Yuan goes (which is typically some Hackerspaces, Tingyun E1, some SPD subs), leads to a 215-240 SPD requirements. Even if you soften the requirements a bit (giving Asta some leading buffer room), you will still need around 200 SPD for a typical speed stacking setup. If you pay some SP, the speed requirement of Asta will drastically goes down. EE AAA is 165-178 SPD. EE EE AAA is around 140-150.
195 SPD if you wanna be before him, but thats not too necessary and he doesnt need her exactly on his turns due to how fast hes going over the 141 mark anyway, but yeah its too much SPD on asta lol
Im not a pure Jing Yuan main but he at E0S1 has carried me in my earlier stages in HSR, also I usually run him with my Bronya(134 spd and 198 CD) while my Jing Yuan is at 101 spd and yet my Bronya is SP neutral and my Jingyuan consistently gets 7 stacks on LL.
I have different teams for different damage types (as it should), so for Lightning is Ying Yuan, Fu Xuan, Luocha (building Huo huo right now), and Tingyun, May put in Brownia to see how it operates.
Definitely going to be spending some pulls for Hanya just for Jing Yuan. I'm so glad they buffed him through the new set and new characters, Erudition and Hunt have just been lagging behind Destruction characters so I'm really glad they're getting the help they need.
Planning to get Fu Xuan on her rerun so I can pair her to General .. really loves him so much even though many of people saying he's a Mid but still really likes his design and lore wise .. 😁😁
hey Guoba. I remember you asking at some point (a while ago tbf) what new players should know. I just recently remembered I didn't know I could lock relics for like 2 months xD And knowing that is a huge game changer, even if new players shouldn't farm relics for a bit.
Always loved jing yuan's play style may not be on par with our meta top dogs in numbers but it feels powerful to play the man. irritated about the CC thing though but you can manage
@@LimesssuuIt started with a joke then content creators and a certain tierlist (that people somehow take as a gospel) started this whole charade and it just avalanched with people bandwagoning even though they don't even have Jingyuan or even bother learning how to use him. This caused Jingyuan mains being the butt of the joke for 5 months straight which just is awful.
Can we have an honorable mention for Blade as a valuable teammate for Jing Yuan? He fills a similar spot to Topaz's in Jing Yuan's teams, taking care weaker enemies so that Lighting Lord's bounce mechanis aren't too erratic. He was literally a lifesaver during the Imbibitor Lunae trotter blessing that messed up Lightning Lord, and ever since then I've been using them together for certain MoC content. They work really well together.
I run my Jing Yuan on Tingyun, Huohuo and Fu Xuan (because my sustains are still weak to sustain alone) and he randomly did 300k+ with LL when I was farming Phantylia. My supports have the most randoms relics ever so I'm pretty happy with that. King Yuan indeed.
Thank you for this updated guide! Really appreciate it. Can you make an updated one for Silver Wolf? I am thinking of pulling for her and I trust you the most for builds and guides. 💜
Tbh I pulled for him because when I started playing during Seele's banner, while she had the reset mechanic I still wanted an AoE unit. However I knew that in most games, AoE was just good in clearing multiple mobs but suck against single target. But JY isn't like that at all, yeah he's Erudition but his LL still hits like a truck against single target enemies, essentially removing the problem I had mentioned above, he's Erudition with a bit of a Hunt on the side. So I pulled for him. Outside of gameplay factors, pulled for him cause he hot xD
Really like the implementation of recommended endgame stats. Gives something to shoot for and when I can stop grinding for relics. Is there a recommended stat list for all characters?
i was farming for a few days now for those ash duke set for my JY and finally got a decent 2pc for him. his dmg improved a bit. can't wait to finally have the 4pc on him. anything for my general
JY was the first character i truely invested in but he slowly fell off due to lack of further investment on my part so i never truely optimized him. Unfortunately i wasnt able to get Topaz, but i did get huohuo. I started farming the new relic sets but didn't a good set for him yet, but i did upgrade my Kafka so there's that at least, but i still have more work for him to do, if i can get this cavern to cooperate. Id really like to use him again.
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Any OG Jing Yuan gamers?
IMPORTANT NOTES:
- Technique is actually good to use in most scenarios (Tingyun in MoC, 0 cycle clears), and should be used, very sorry!
It isn't good in some other scenarios, which is what I was used to (When you want to delay LL, Yukong tuning)
So use Technique in most cases, especially with Tingyun, my bad! And thanks for the corrections!
Been using him since the start. Improving his clear time from barely 10 cycles to now 0-1 cycle has been a blast. Now I wait for his rerun and get his LC
I'm currently building him again. I gave my old set to Serval and she became my best farmer.
✋️🙈 Me
Here I am and when I was planning to pull topaz because numby I was very gratefully surprised to see her kit would synergize with the general so… next acquisition will be before dawn after trying my luck on silver wolf for the seele team
Jing yuan main here, I pulled his lightcone because I loved his design, now he his my main damage dealer since 1.0, I've used him so much I can't imagine myself playing the game without him, I even pulled topaz just to use him even more, I also have imbibitor lunae with his lightcone but I like jing yuan even more than him even though he is weaker
I’m usually not bothered with the meta but Jing Yuan’s character arc has been moving throughout. Gotta love an underdog win
we love a good redemption arc
I mean yeah hes not even bad to begin with. With this new relic set, topaz, and moc buff, he rises to the top even more. He was supposed to be low S tier before for me, but now hes high S tier.
Still not stronger than Jingliu tho because she is just blatantly overtuned but im happy with his placement
@@ra6765 She really has an abomination of a kit design id fire who let this get cooked
@@mehmetenescetin2182 lmao fr i love the lady and wouldve pulled regardless of how strong or mid she was gonna be but while im happy shes strong i cant help but point out that she is overtuned with no caveats whatsoever and shouldnt be used as a benchmark to compare other units. At least dhil needs 3 sp for that kind of dmg. Girl is sp neutral 💀
@@ra6765 Das me back in day when the man in topic is released. I proved my Loyalty to him im glad u didnt had to go through that. I also find their difference way smaller than we all think.
He was my first limited 5-star unit. After fully building out my MOC teams I can now focus on my original goal in this game: pulling for the hottest men Star Rail has to offer. 😂
AMEN
HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH TO THAT!!!!
lol lets go. I have only been able to get husbandos so amen to this
He's always been my favorite char, I'm so glad he's got so much better! I feel like he's in the sweetspot of being incredibly satisfying with his performance, but not being so strong to the point of pressuring people who don't like him into getting him.
even during all the "mid Yuan" drama my JY was wrecking. he's the whole reason i got into the game and my whole account has revolved around him since before his release. i regret none of it, he was a blast to build and SUPER satisfying to use. will E6 eventually
Mostly the global community called him mid. CN community has been loving him and his team is consistently on the top 3/5 on the fastest clear cycle since his release. Funny enough thanks to the current MoC blessing his team is currently 1st place fastest clear surpassing DHIL team on the 2nd
@@dohnaseekCN community went ape shit about him wdym loving, they shit on him even more than gl players
Well built JY mains knows what’s up. All that mid yuan drama are for the people who either hate him or have no clue. He performs more than okay for me personally and I don’t feel like I was duped into pulling/investing in him. The doom posters are all sheeps. Clueless fucks tbh. And this game isn’t even hard.
@@dohnaseekthis!! Hes never been bad. Yes powercreeped by JL but thats just her being blasted and also erudition is just a sadly weaker path. That being said, investing in his team is SO comfy. He is only second to blade for my account in terms of comfort and his team comps directly complements blades too which works great for me. So happy to see his return
I related to you on such a personal level I thought I had commented this myself. I just didn’t relate to the E6 part, I think I’m satisfied with E0S1. Atm I’m just missing Fu Xuan to close his team (lost 50/50 and used guaranteed on Topaz, also didn’t regret), so I’m preparing myself for her rerun now after pulling Ruan Mei. I wish best of luck to us, Jing Yuan’s enjoyers!!
King Yuan will always be on my teams. He's pretty face is all I need as weapon 😂❤
TRUE
wait dont use his face as a wep
@@guobacertified💀💀💀
Who is more handsome, Dan Heng, IL Dan Heng, Arlan, Jing Yuan, Welt Yang, Luocha, or Yanqing?
@@alfinprathama8219 yes
As a JY fan since day 1, I've gotten a e6 Tingyun, e1 Fu Xuan and Topaz S1 and he feels amazing. Yeah thats a lot of buffs, but it's worth it because they're all characters that help him out and help other teams a bunch too. Overall, I just love him and all the love the game has
Tingyun, fu, and topaz are great in so many other teams too ^^ So its not even bad investment :D
i got topaz e1s1 for him too, we're so real
E1 S1 Topaz is so future proof looking at it now
Bringing home Jing Yuan as my first 5* character is one of my happiest Star Rail memories lol. I have 140+ tickets saved up for his rerun currently, I will do anything to make him happy and strong
Jing Yuan is my most comfortable character to play as since I can deal with mobs and single target at once, not to mention his team allows me to always have sp for him to use. And, he’s the best breaker in the game
did someone say BREAK JING YUAN
I'd let him break me whenever fr fr
hope this doesn't sound bizarre but you're definitely my favourite sr cc who makes content like this. your infomation is always clear and concise, your voice is nice to listen to, and your pixel art is cute :). i wish you all the best!
Tysm
love the editing and the little cosplaying guobas
THANKS YINNY
I've got him, Seele, and Daniel but to this day I still use him the most! He and danny boy are my go to's in MOC, danny takes simulated universe runs, and jing yuan runs just about everything else. His combo with tingyun, bronya, and now huohuo has been so nice and I couldn't be happier with how he's turned out. it's nuts to think about how much he gets trashed on in some communities. JY4L
JY4L :)
I actually regret Daniel, because I couldn't simp for the queen Jingliu
Who is Daniel?
Who is Daniel?
@@Ikuragawell i regret getting jingliu... That pity could be used for E6 danil later when he rerun and jingliu gameplay is a no for me, she end up killing my team and need loucha both so end up not using her and use dan heng B4 instead for MOC
JY has always been my main dps. He was the first character I maxed out traces on (the second was topaz) and I'm having so much fun with LL just coming down and wrecking face. still living in the new cavern to get good gear for him and topaz, but I'm super amped he just keeps getting better and better.
Been a KingYuan main since day1, he's just too cool
Hes so beautiful :')
Amen, when I see Jing Yuan it was love, no summons in Seeles banner for him with his LC
Been using him consistently ever since he came out for his simple but effective playstyle. Plus I love his VA is Jotaro in JP. He’s so nice to auto farm lol
perfect VAs in all languages
He has always been a top DPS since Day 1 and he's better than ever now because most of his weakness has been nullified.
He was the only limited DPS who couldn't use Bronya to buff his main source of damage, now Topaz does that job and with Huo Huo energy regen added with Asta's speed boost or Ruan Mei boosting both speed and his already hideous break potential, makes him part of the fastest team in MoC
Bronya E6 one day too ^^
This might be your best Guoba sprite ever. That ponytail on the top of his head is immaculate. Great guide as usual!
Haha tysm
Thank you for taking the time to make an updated JY guide. Sadly, very few content creators bother to update their guides for older characters.
KING YUAN MAINS RISE UP
waiting for his rerun to get his signature lc o_O
GL on before dawn :D
I started playing after JY's banner but I am so excited for whenever his rerun is.
GL on his banner!
Bro same here. I just started playing a month ago, but I really want him in my team. He's my favorite character so far. Him, Kafka, and then lastly Loucha.
Managed to get full star clears about 2 months in with just Jing + Sushang/welt main dps (using breakfast LC). I have to admit that it was hard to call him good, but it was always enough if you knew what you were doing (you won't get speedrun clears most of the time but it works). Had friends confused why they couldn't even with more meta chars. Unlike Genshin, most of the chars here are very viable which is pretty cool
he is still my go to carry in most of the game contents, the way he wrecks through mobs is just too satisfying to see
He also functions as a hunt character if theres only one enemy 😍 this is why i love him.
@@Limesssuu REALLLL i'll always be on my knees for him-
Jing Yuan seriously the Kequing of this game - He keeps on winning
I would actually compare him to Cyno instead (not because they happen to share the same Eng VA lol)
Both are limited 5stars, both considered mid by community, they both have some quirkiness and odd drawbacks compared to other units, both need a little bit more help from supports and both are still quite powerful
@@felixonline1825 Both are generals, are electro, and use polearm-ish weapon 😂
@@quanticador1103 true that 😅
@@quanticador1103 Also don't forget the white hair.
Funny enough, the same EN VA is voicing Akihiko from P3R, which is *another* white haired character.
Been clearing content just fine with him since I got him day 1. LL can be annoying to play around at times but have you ever watched a 10 stack fully buffed LL just drop Celestia Nails onto the enemy? Incredibly satisfying. All Hail The Jing!
That said, I really wish you went slightly more in depth on Lynx since her cleanse is on demand too and you basically have it up whenever you need it to cleanse JY since he isn't always guaranteed to be stunned and after LL in initiative. She provides skill points and can hold all of the great support sets
Thats true, maybe im running lynx on the wrong build but i always struggle w having her ult up consistently without bombing my SP. Any tips on general builds for her? I do have both of the 5* healers (ignoring BL), but i want to try building the others esp since lynx has the taunt mech
Skipped Seele at launch to try and get our General, finally got him after losing a 50/50 as f2p so I couldn’t get his light cone, played with him for a bit with bailu, tingyun and asta but then stopped playing for a few months, came back for Topaz and just recently pulled Huohuo, still farming for the best relics but this is the best the teams felt since I’ve been playing him, we love Our General
Not me searching for an updated guide on JY earlier and you dropping this LOL Thanks!!!
i gotchu :)
I'm happy that JY finally buff back again because i managed to clear moc 10 with him. he's just so good with fuxuan. hoping for rerun soon for his sign lc. looks so funny when everyone hating on JY because of mid before this and was overshadow by blade and dhil
Whoever lets me use their Jing Yuan every day thank you friend. You’re helping me to get through a lot of resin every day and setting me up for later game as a newer player collecting resources. One day I’m definitely gonna get him tho 😍
bunnysuit jingyuan for the win, amazing work guoba.
there are 2 things i wished were added to this video.
1) damage distribution between his skill + ULT and his follow up talent percentage wise, in terms of ST and AOE scenarios:- this might help people not sleep on his non follow up dmg.
2) just a little bit more clarification on why the technique isn't recommended:- i've tried all the jingyuan playstyles, be it 8 stack lightning lord or 10 stack lightning lord, the results were you will only get 1 lightning lord per cycle, regardless if you optimize AV or not. which is why you always want to 10 stack it by JY moving twice.
other than those 2 minor details that are entirely really not fundamental, i think you did JY justice😙
I talked about the damage profile but forgot to include the graph woops :)
I still use him from release until today. He is a consistent aoe powerhouse in my team
I have him but didn't really use him since I didn't really enjoy him as much in the beginning. But, now I can clear MoC pretty high (hit or miss on stage 10) consistently, and I have been playing with Himeko, who I also disliked gameplay wise but now I found myself to be enjoying her gameplay quite a bit. Will definitely return to Jing Yuan and see how it feels to play him, now that I actually have stuff built up to help him
I've honestly been considering going for jy when his rerun happens considering I have topaz (and he's just really cool). I'm a Kafka gamer so the idea of focusing on dot units and followup units over traditional top dps seems fun
You should! Topaz is by no means a must (altho her being able to go sp positive is huge), but i totally agree that non-faceplant damage is super fun (i have ILDH but LL is way more fun to watch).
About technique - if you run with TY you want to always use it, because it perfectly synergises with TY's ult at the start of the fight, allowing to get 10 stacks LL and then resets the rotation.
This was great. I have been looking for an updated Jing Yuan guide for a while now. He is still the most effortlessly cool general but a lot has changed from the early days, so it’s great to get up to date advice.
Surprised to hear one shouldn’t get those LL stacks before the battle. I’ve been doing that every time. Not sure my brain is functional enough for the more optimal speed building (I usually just run him with E2 Bronya, E6 Tingyun and now swapped Bailu for HuoHuo.)
Needing to update character guides kind of proves that HSR is a good game. They care for the older units too, giving them new ways to get better or be played differently.
I lost the 25/75 last time and didn’t have enough jades saved to pull more. But when he returns definitely going for the LC with a vengeance.
Its just from what ive seen in game, and heard from JY mains, with the technique it ruins the first turn where you setup for the 10, and ult overcaps to 11, so dunno how worth it is. Maybe im wrong lol. Gl on your pulls!
@@guobacertified is overcapping really that big of an issue, when in many cases the technique use is just free? like, yeah maybe a small waste of ult but eh, if they die - they die
Its not, and the technique use is fine, its for delaying LL where I dont like using the technique, but I didnt address that in the vid. So the technique is fine, sorry! Ideally with Tingyun though, otherwise you wont get ult and lose stacks since LL will be too fast
After putting him on the bench for a while, ive been enjoying him a lot recently. Getting some cracked pieces from the new set probably had something to do with it....
im farming so hard for him on that set lmao
@@guobacertifiedi spend over 1700 condensed reisin on the domain gettingg rly unlucky got him on 83 cr with 143 cdmg ( paired with his trace / fu im capped crit and i got e1 fu so 163 cdmg and 100 crit rate is gucci but im still rocking purple atk boots ( using him with asta / tingyun ) ( plus got his signature cone ) i went hard on him for release them benched him for jing liu amd now hes back in my team gotta love em!
I still use Jingyuan and he's been helping a lot in MOC late stages
Thank you.
I have been waiting for this. I love that you come back to older characters with your detailed unbiased analysis. Best Tuber on HSR IMO
TYSM :D Glad I can help anyone!
I played alot when the game came out and built up a lot of tickets for him to be my first 5* banner nab and was thrilled when I did. But i fell off with other games and am only now returning. This is great to help guide me on who to get with him especially because i missed out on a lot of other characters.
Ruan Mei is amazing for him if you got her :)
I always wondered why Jing Yuan was so hated when every limited 5 star dps clear speed is basically the same.
Gotta hate on someone ^^ Issa shame, but thats why i stay away from meta discussion lmao, it can get quite toxic
@homudarkThat was never the reason for why it became so common. People just need to latch on to something as "worse" to justify their preferences being "better". It doesn't matter if it's true in practice.
@homudarkon one hand im genuinely curious on how he still underperforms with such a complete setup vs a secret vow blade (mine performs relatively the same with e0s0 and e3 asta against e0s1 blade with bronya) and on the other hand your reasoning of "doesnt feel to good to play" is understandable because he isnt gonna suit everyones playstyle
@homudark I dunno man, I've been using him since day 1 with less investment than you and he has never struggled to do his part in MoC, even with Daniel on the other side. Maybe his team will take a couple cycles more, but I have never once thought he underperformed to a degree that felt like it was hurting my progress. And this was all before all the recent buffs like Topaz and Huohuo and the new set.
I've tried plenty of other characters, because I like playing around with different teams, but the Jing Yuan/Topaz comp has easily become my favorite/most fun now. My Daniel team is strong, but it is more boring, because it's all about funneling everything in to Dan to ECB3. Hypercarry comps just are never as fun, and I'm glad they are becoming less the only real option.
@homudark If you think Topaz is mid then we're never going to agree on anything. She is fantastic and absolutely my favorite character to play in the game. She completely reinvigorated my enjoyment of the game when it was becoming pretty routine.
If you enjoy being an extreme meta slave to the point you can only accept being able to 0 cycle MoC10 then that's your business. But you live in a very niche part of the community. There are 0 advantages to that accomplishment, so if you're not having fun and pulling characters you think are boring I would rethink how you approach the game.
Jing Yuan is my first 5 star character and main. Seeing him getting indirectly buffed by released characters and relics makes me hyped. With Fu Xuan, Ting yun, and Huohuo in the team I think he will perform at his best in any given situations he encounters. I'm not saying Jing Yuan's now better than any 5 star but i'm just generally happy for my boy and still cope at the corner everytime he's powercreeped. (I'm a happy coping Jing Yuan main, I skip banners to pull buffers.)
I'm looking forward for his rerun, getting his LC would be big W and maybe some Eilodons(lmao). f2p btw.
GL on the rerun pulls ^^
thanks so much for this guide! i'm a light spender and i somehow managed to snag topaz and huohuo, so i'm really excited about that
Gratz ! :D
There are more than just 140 speed threshold for him. It is also 170 and 200 threshold which you can achieve by having Bronya (virtual speed) or Asta on hackerspace.
140 speed allow 2 turns before LL with the pattern of E E-Ulti for 10 stacks.
170 speed which is achieve by having speed boots and TY asta allow the attack pattern of E-Ulti (Or Ulti-E) E for 10 stack. This will speed up the LL quite a bit and fits well with the tech opening of JY as his first turn will be Ulti-E leaving him at 35 energy. Then he clear the wave/kill enemy, TY buffing him ultimate again and he get to his turn using skill and get enough energy for another ultimate rightaway, it will be the E-Ulti. And with the speed buff from asta and TY he will get to the threshold and E again before the LL move and this also make him at 35 once again ready for another TY round if she is fast enough. And she should be fast with wind set so she get 2 turns in cycle 0 wave 1 before the LL move and generate 1 more skill point, get 1 more turn for her to channel the ultimate.
200 speed requires specific setup to get. It requires 135 speed JY, lvl 12 Asta hackerspace and TY buff to get. To do this you need to use JY ulti right after the LL move or at the wave starts, then with all these buff, his effective speed will be 200 for that one turn allow him to get another E before LL. The pattern is now Ulti (after LL move or wave start) then E and E. However, this is usually very bad because all of the speed buff will run out and he will not be able to get 2 turns before LL in the next cycle (but it worth a try in 0 cycle attemp I guess). So reaching over 135 speed for JY is not recommended. Rather him not reaching that speed he will move shortly after the max speed LL and speed up the LL next cycle while being able to move again before it move for another 2 skill.
With how many way to manipulate the "average LL speed" there are many way to speed tune the support around him to maximize the value. Like setting up the Past and Future LC into LL and JY right after for huge bonus damage in YK JY team. Different in the timing of JY ulti affects how fast the LL is heavily so there are ton of way to circumvent his limitation int your benefits. Like as mentioned above with TY, even with tech opening you can get TY (and other support like asta) to move before the LL move in the first wave which generate more skill point and energy for themselves. And JY doesn't need the 2nd turn to clear the first wave will benefits himself a lots for the 2nd wave as the TY buff has yet to run out so TY can have another free turn to attack before having to buff JY energy again and his buff up time will be better overall (Asta speed buff or Bronya ulti buff is still there at 2 turn for example). Those are things he rarely get talked about.
2 turns ulti JY should be the standard for calculation and measurement I think if he is TY team. It is totally not hard to get it for him considering how easy it is to abuse TY wave 1 stuff to get extra hit/turn and the basic team with 0 speed JY and Asta TY can achieve that quite consistently. There is a very huge different in the rotation damage between 10 stack LL and 8 stacks or 7 stacks and it is even more important in 0 cycle meta. If not in TY team he can be in HH team for 3 turns ulti.
Beside that team the next top is probably JY TP Asta/Hanya/Bronya/Mei and hh for 3 turns ulti. If you use TP for JY, may as well going for AOE buffer to get the best out of both carriers. HH will allow everyone to get 3 turns ulti cycle which is very good and consistent. Oddly enough as people think JY is TY dependant, he manage to break out of the TY team comfortably now with topaz
my jing yuan is pretty much built with 141 speed around 90% crit rate with fuxuan, and 180 crit damage on the new set but i'm really excited about what teams new characters like hanya open up!i might make a second build with attack boots to try her out.
anyway this guide is really good, i feel like a lot of people don't know that 134 speed is very workable with just e1 tingyun as a sole buffer and you usually consistently get 10 stacks really consistently
Thats an insane build what the...
Thanks! :D And I hope Hanya is a new cool synergy
That insane... 141 with great crit ratio
@@Licitumz with a crit rate body + his traces + fu xuan you get high crit rate pretty easy! the speed took a lot of luck and fuel though
@@tzxyuaesthetics9338 Yeah the crit one is ez. But the spd 💀
With the new set?? Damn 🤯
Thanks for this video, especially the tips on speed. JY is my favorite character and go to guy in MoC and SU so it's nice to see him get some appreciation again. I think the whole thing about LL's random hits is a little overblown. It's not something I've ever had a real problem with. My biggest problem in the past was crowd control, but any DPS can have that happen and it's always annoying. Fu Xuan has pretty much solved that problem for me and I also have Luocha if i need to switch up my sustain units in teams. I just made my Luocha faster so hopefully he'll be even better at cleansing debuffs.
Guobaaa thank you so much for this. I’m saving up for his re-run. Wish me luck!
Good luck!
skipped seele + sw to grab jing and before dawn in 1.0 and don't regret it for a moment, he's been my go to dps even after getting dhil. he's just so comfortable to play and is versatile enough to bring to any kind of content without worry.
Have him with his lightcone since day 1 uwu
awesome :D
@@guobacertified Just finished the video. Your favorite team is the team I've been using. It's really comfortable to use JY with those supports 👍
Thanks for all the content, Guoba! It's always a joy to watch, and super informative too! 💕
Jing Yuan is the only event DPS I play; along with Clara, Qingque, and well-built supports, he's helped me steamroll all the content in the game. I got taken in by the "JY powercrept, can't clear without whale level investment" stuff early on (which I now would argue bordered on straight-up misinformation) and felt a bit bummed, because he's my favourite character tied with Tingyun, but after fully investing in my guy and getting used to his playstyle, I can't help but be satisfied. Not only is he clearly fluffier than any other character, which is a meta consideration many people forget to take into account, he's made a voiced appearance in every single story update to date, as well as getting indirect buffs with every patch in the form of new teammates and relics. He seems to be quite beloved by the devs, and certainly by me as well. I'm f2p so I instinctively skipped his weapon on release, but will definitely be saving up to get it on his rerun, or maybe even multiple copies for Qingque and Himeko too.
I get that there are some aspects of his kit that are a little clunky, but the backloaded damage is actually quite satisfying, and the design feels super deliberate. You use his true AOE skill+ult to wipe out mobs/adds, allowing for LL to focus on any remaining bosses or elites. It feels satisfying to tee up those big hits, and gives him a surprising amount of flexibility for an AOE-focused character.
The only time it doesn't feel as good to play him is if I get a simulated universe run going with a lot of speed and action-advance blessings, because you'll just watch him take 20 turns in a row while LL waits politely in the wings. If his LL could take action immediately upon reaching 10 stacks that would be seriously amazing… but maybe too imbalanced, haha!
JY main since day one, definitely agree that JY Topaz Tingyun Huo Huo feels the best to play right now. I love this character so much. Thank you for this guide!
I'm looking foward to his rerun, I couldn't get his arti back on release, but I'm happy that he is getting better over time, definitely a underrated unit.
Gl on the rerun! :D
LL loses priority after 2+ targets at 3 targets and later JY himself deals more of his dmg actually.
we found he is generally superior with atk boots on every way unless u run him with topaz at duo dps set up or at solo dps calculations.
I mained him back in 1.0. I spent 180 pulls to pull his e0 which has pretty low chances (which is around 1 in 196 trillion chance) to happen. U really are the top dog of this community man. Ure loved at least by myself.Take care of yourself and deliver those bangers.
The 25% CDMG is for LLord not the rest, unless you have proof otherwise? Cause testing showed its just for LLord.
ATK% boots is worse DMG and less stacks until you get SPD / advance buffers from testing and calcs, but since we got so many they turn out great :)
Thanks for the nice comment
@@guobacertified I burned the whole kitchen my bad. It used to show that extra 25 percent crit dmg after 6 stats at main stats menu back in 1.1-1.2 now it doesnt my bad again(It was most likely a bug or a secret nerf :) ). And atk boots is with support units of course i dont think anyone would run him without supports unless u run him with the clearly superior BREAK build. Also bro ure so fast at commenting i still am in shock i am ur fan.
ur guide helped my Jing yuan build so much, I'll be pulling for his light cone on his rerun
Gl for before dawn and I’m happy I could help :)
I do think its sorta funny how this video explains JY's kit while literally everyone who have him have gotten him for a few months already
Especially since his first rerun isnt out yet literally the only way to own him was to have played around 5 months ago and pulled him then
It skips the basic skill and ult and explains info that isnt widely known but yea :)
For the record always appreciate your content! Keep up the great work!
thanks :D @@kibateo
Also can I just say, the pixel art gets better with every single video! Guo Yuan's armour looks stunning. It looks like you're enjoying the process, so I hope that's true, because we certainly are!
I loved Jing Yuan when he first released and I've been using him regularly because I like an Elation team for my weekly SU clears. I was very excited for this patch, but relic farming has been nothing but pain so far. Oh well, just a matter of time, I will get a good follow-up relic set eventually. I also picked up Huo Huo after failing to get FX and have been super happy with her. It feels like she super-charged my teams, since I didn't have Luocha either.
03:28 embarrassing, didn't know this for so long. thanks for that!
I gotchu
as someone who uses jing yuan, topaz AND clara... i know i'll spend a lot of time on the new artifact domain
I pulled Jing Yuen when he came out and I regret nothing! I pulled his E1 and his weapon to boot. I struggled getting him happy artifacts but that's at peace now. Oddly enough I run him with Gepard/Blade/Luocha and they can just maul anything to death. I went on the journey to get Asta and Tigyun in tip top shape for him.
That set got my Jing Yuan from 45k to 110k damage on lightning lord... I didn't think it would make that big of a difference, but i think i just got more lucky with the substats this time
Big damage increase :O
the fact your favorite team is the team I run with my Jing Yuan I feel validated almost
Got in to HSR during Silver Wolf island have been PRAYING for King Yuan's rerun
i love u for defending him fr
I run JY, Silver Wolf, Pela, and Du Xuan and they are pretty good for Jing Yuan since their debuff duration is tied to the enemy's turns, which means being able to take multiple turns against an enemy allows for consistent debuff uptime (especially for Pela). That helps with the skill point usage too from my experience
My whole account revolves around Jing Yuan, I got his light cone, Fu Xuan e1 with her light cone and same thing with topaz just so he could pop off
Awesome account :D
I've regretted not pulling him on release ever since I got my first QQ, Seele is just collecting dust on the bench and I'm desperate for Jing Yuan's rerun
Soon I hope! GL on your pulls
Skipped Seele and saved up for JY and have been maining him since first day of his release. I'm so happy my king is getting an upgrade
Have been a fan of him since day 1.
King Yuan as my main dps for my 1st team and (Jing Yuan E0S1, Ting Yun E6, Lynx E0, Asta E5)
Waifu Jing Liu as my main dps for my 2nd team (Jing Liu E1S1, Luocha E0S1, Luocha E0S1, Pela E6)
made MOC like a joke 😂😂
I ignored Seele and got him as my first limited + his light cone. Lots of Jingyuan mains laud his synergy with Fu Xuan, but Huohuo is very strong as well.
I ignored seele too , but no LC D:
I jsut used like 10 fuels to farm jingyuan's old recommended set (the lightning one) not knowing there was THE GRANDE DUKE SET, NOW I HAVE TO FARM A WHOLE NEW DIFFERENT SET FOR HIM HELP.. but like this video was so helpful THANK YOU..
Gl on the grind D:
Hello, I want to have some clarification at 8:08.
If Asta wants 3 turns each 2 Jing Yuan turns, it's actually 195 SPD. The faster Jing Yuan goes (which is typically some Hackerspaces, Tingyun E1, some SPD subs), leads to a 215-240 SPD requirements. Even if you soften the requirements a bit (giving Asta some leading buffer room), you will still need around 200 SPD for a typical speed stacking setup.
If you pay some SP, the speed requirement of Asta will drastically goes down. EE AAA is 165-178 SPD. EE EE AAA is around 140-150.
195 SPD if you wanna be before him, but thats not too necessary and he doesnt need her exactly on his turns due to how fast hes going over the 141 mark anyway, but yeah its too much SPD on asta lol
And when I'm finally satisfied with my Jing yuan using the lightning set... I see this video
Im not a pure Jing Yuan main but he at E0S1 has carried me in my earlier stages in HSR, also I usually run him with my Bronya(134 spd and 198 CD) while my Jing Yuan is at 101 spd and yet my Bronya is SP neutral and my Jingyuan consistently gets 7 stacks on LL.
Me still waiting patiently for that Before dawn rerun. For now my King Yuan is tunning Genius Repose for my F2P roster.
I have different teams for different damage types (as it should), so for Lightning is Ying Yuan, Fu Xuan, Luocha (building Huo huo right now), and Tingyun, May put in Brownia to see how it operates.
I would remove FX or Luocha since both can solo sustain
Definitely going to be spending some pulls for Hanya just for Jing Yuan. I'm so glad they buffed him through the new set and new characters, Erudition and Hunt have just been lagging behind Destruction characters so I'm really glad they're getting the help they need.
Hope they work well together :D
Planning to get Fu Xuan on her rerun so I can pair her to General .. really loves him so much even though many of people saying he's a Mid but still really likes his design and lore wise .. 😁😁
hey Guoba. I remember you asking at some point (a while ago tbf) what new players should know. I just recently remembered I didn't know I could lock relics for like 2 months xD And knowing that is a huge game changer, even if new players shouldn't farm relics for a bit.
:P tips video might be a bit late to make, but who knows
I'm excited for his rerun, really want my own Jing Yuan (currently relegated to using support ones)!
Gl on the rerun :DD hope its soon
e6 tingyun, e1 asta (SADLY), e0 gepard and jingyuan is my OG carry team :D farming the new set for him, and i'm ready to get his LC on a rerun!
Always loved jing yuan's play style may not be on par with our meta top dogs in numbers but it feels powerful to play the man.
irritated about the CC thing though but you can manage
King Yuan main since release and glad he's showing everyone why he's OUR GENERAL
Most satisfying character to use for me. Always loved him!
Jing Yuan has always been great, and the new relic set makes him even better! Anyone who called him Mid Yuan is self reporting their skill issues
dang
our general, getting stronger and stronger by the more update comes. 🔥
The crackling roar of the lightning lord clapping down on the adversary will never not be satisfying.
King Yuan is so comfortable in autoing every little thing you need to do daily
Super! I dont get why everyone says hes weak, he functions really well in single target scenarios
@@LimesssuuIt started with a joke then content creators and a certain tierlist (that people somehow take as a gospel) started this whole charade and it just avalanched with people bandwagoning even though they don't even have Jingyuan or even bother learning how to use him.
This caused Jingyuan mains being the butt of the joke for 5 months straight which just is awful.
@@yuiheron2880 those people would not bother strategizing with him HAHA
Except lighting lord is too slow and he's the one doing all the damage in a hypercarry team, Blade is probably the best for farming and dailies
Can we have an honorable mention for Blade as a valuable teammate for Jing Yuan? He fills a similar spot to Topaz's in Jing Yuan's teams, taking care weaker enemies so that Lighting Lord's bounce mechanis aren't too erratic. He was literally a lifesaver during the Imbibitor Lunae trotter blessing that messed up Lightning Lord, and ever since then I've been using them together for certain MoC content. They work really well together.
I use a JY, Blade, Bronya, and Luocha to farm the new SU 😅
Idk, Blade can do that on any team , and you lose a harmony on JY
JingYuan was my first character and i loved him ever since, he destroys all parts of combat, the most badass character in the game imo
I run my Jing Yuan on Tingyun, Huohuo and Fu Xuan (because my sustains are still weak to sustain alone) and he randomly did 300k+ with LL when I was farming Phantylia. My supports have the most randoms relics ever so I'm pretty happy with that. King Yuan indeed.
Wait till you go solo sustain eventually :D enjoy your JY!
Thank you for this updated guide! Really appreciate it. Can you make an updated one for Silver Wolf? I am thinking of pulling for her and I trust you the most for builds and guides. 💜
Tbh I pulled for him because when I started playing during Seele's banner, while she had the reset mechanic I still wanted an AoE unit. However I knew that in most games, AoE was just good in clearing multiple mobs but suck against single target. But JY isn't like that at all, yeah he's Erudition but his LL still hits like a truck against single target enemies, essentially removing the problem I had mentioned above, he's Erudition with a bit of a Hunt on the side. So I pulled for him.
Outside of gameplay factors, pulled for him cause he hot xD
'Jing Yuan can't be good, he is barely half awake'
-some heliobi-
Really like the implementation of recommended endgame stats. Gives something to shoot for and when I can stop grinding for relics. Is there a recommended stat list for all characters?
Not really, i put them on my infographics tho
My dedication on building my support is like my attendance in work. Always absent 🤣
I believed eventhough they keep saying he is irrelevant dps I know that one day he will rise again 😌and now he is stronger! 😌
E1 Before Dawn JY gamer day 1, thats my guy frfr
It s time to rebuild my Jingyuan . My main problème with him was getting crowd controlled and crippling lightning lord . But i only had Nat back then.
i was farming for a few days now for those ash duke set for my JY and finally got a decent 2pc for him. his dmg improved a bit. can't wait to finally have the 4pc on him. anything for my general
Winning my 50/50 on jing yuan last day of his banner and the free 5-star are literally why I've come back to star rail
JY was the first character i truely invested in but he slowly fell off due to lack of further investment on my part so i never truely optimized him. Unfortunately i wasnt able to get Topaz, but i did get huohuo. I started farming the new relic sets but didn't a good set for him yet, but i did upgrade my Kafka so there's that at least, but i still have more work for him to do, if i can get this cavern to cooperate. Id really like to use him again.