Speaking from experience collecting the pre-1945 European cal 6.35/.25 pistols becomes an addiction. After buying my first Side Latch Mauser about 10 hears back, I was hooked!!
Very entertaining as always. I am a firearms dealer in north Wales I would have loved to have met you when you were over on your vacation. Important that you refer to the UK as the UK. Not England!
I purchased a S&W Walther PPK in .380/9mm Kurz and hated it - bit like a snake. I now have a Manurhin PP in 32 ACP/7.65mm issued to the Swedish Police and love it! I think eventually I will still want to have a PP in .22 as I think that would be the most fun to shoot. Love your videos.
Happy you corrected your statement about buying their own weapons i wasn't issued a side arm but i bought my own revolver as a driver was easier to use in the cab than trying to swing a M16 around in the cab
Mark Felton did a video where he said Adolf Hitler had both a .25 and a .32 PPK with him when he offed himself in the Fuhrerbunker. That made no sense to me at first because I had never heard of a .25 PPK. Now I see they did indeed exist. And the one AH had would easily be the most valuable of all, assuming it still exists.
I've seen the .25 calibre TPH model made by Walter but it wasn't a WWII pistol. .380 ACP is called 9 mm Kurz in German speaking countries however Ian McCollum on his channel "Forgotten Weapons" did show us a 9mm Luger Walther PP model blow back operated pistol. Recoil was rough.
Thanks for sharing a look at a rare firearm, as well as all these pistols in action! You sir, have forgotten more about PPs & PPKs than I will EVER know, & I appreciate your sharing of that knowledge! Keep those great videos coming!
@@heiner71 thank you for correcting me. I've always been shit at spelling. I'm sure when I started school here in Canada they thought me retarded. Being born in the Netherlands, I had no idea I was using words from four different languages, something my parents failed to tell me.
Hey shame to have missed you while you were here in the UK! Were you able to visit the Royal Armoury in Leeds, they have the most vast collection of arms and armour including some very rare firearms. I have several PPK & PP's of various calibres from .22LR to 9mmK / .380 ACP though never seen a .25 ACP. In one of my books it describes this as 'rare in either model / nigh-worthless cartridge'!
A friend just bought a new production PPK and I noted with disapproval that the slide flats were almost polished, but the frame sides were brushed. I put this mismatch down to carelessness of the slide being German made and the frame milled in Arkansas, but darned if that 25 doesn't have the same contrast.
Not bad for an old guy using those minuscule sights. Luckily I have both the .25 cal and button release 9mm in my collection. I hope you went to the Imperial War Museum while in London. Bovington and the HMS Victory are still on my bucket list.
Hey nice shootings here. I would love to receive your target if you still have it. Always love the pp & the ppk. Being in Canada these guns are never possible to own. At least I get to hang the target on my office wall ;))
Tom, (1) Love your Podcasts. Thank you for your heroic rescue of Canadian Lugers! (2) Did You Know that when Ian Flemming wrote the first James Bond stories, he knew little about firearms and armed Bond with a 6.35mm Walther PPK? True. In one of the films (I forget which) M nags Bond about not carrying an MI-6 authorized weapon (a 9 MM kurz PPK). Bond says he'll attend to it (but of course never does). (3) in re the Panzer wrap behind you, Google the Malmedy and Chenogne massacres during the Battle of the Bulge. The Panzer Wrap played an unfortunate role. Apparently, a "senior US officer" ordered his men that no SS prisoners were to be taken alive. The US troops in question encountered a group of Army (not SS) Panzer troops attempting to surrender. Mistaking the Army Panzer troops for SS, the Americans slaughtered them. Apparently, during the Bulge fighting there were such incidents, in retribution for other such acts (rumored and actual). How did the Panzer Wrap fit into this? While the SS Panzers wore black from the beginning, the Army started out in Army Grey. They soon realized that working in and around tanks was a dirty, greasy job and their grey uniforms were soon a greasy grimy mess. So the Army Panzers adopted black uniforms that wouldn't show the grease. the Death's Head emblems on both collar tabs (the SS didn't have Death's Heads on their collars (SS runes on the right collar, SS rank insignia on the left, except SS General Officers who wore rank on both sides). In short , "Mistakes Were Made" on both sides. Who knew the Panzer Wrap had so much baggage? (4) in the 1970's I had both a brand-new Mauser-made Swiss model '29 Luger in 9mm with 6" bbl; and a 42-byf P-38 in well worn but entirely serviceable condition. Tragically, both were burgled in the middle of the night while I was out on patrol. (like Bond before me, I was admonished to carry a .38 or .357 revolver on duty. If you have not already, it would be cool if you did a podcast on why the .38 and .357 have different numbers yet are both cal. .357. In the unlikely event you didn't know (or care) the reason is the .38 started out as .36 iron weapons which might burst if you put one of the new-fangled smokeless powder cartriges in them. By the time the .357 came around iron guns were few and far between. but the .357 cartidge was more powerful, so they made it a tenth of an inch longer so it wouldn't chamber in a possibly-not-strong-enough .38. Sorry, once I get going it's hard to stop. Love your channel, good luck, good health and watch out for Mounties.
Wasn't Bond's preferred pistol a Beretta which he had to turn in and they replaced with a PPK. I remember something about stopping power and pane of glass!!!!
Bravo...You should go to the range with examples more often. Makes me want to take my common 1976 PPK/S on my next range day.... HMMM, am wondering who will clean these pistols ? Am guessing it will be Randy.
I’m glad you decided to put some rounds through the 6.35 pistol. I’m curious as to why Walther were still producing .22 cal pistols so late in the war? You’d think that even as daft as putting so many resources into something as practically useless on a battlefield as a .32 or .38 pistol is: they’d at least stop the .22 because that is surely only a sporting or plinking type piece? I know the reich was terrible at resource allocation but this seems bad even for them 😂
Almost none of the PP series ever saw battlefields anyway, they sat in desks still in the boxes.This might sound incredible but, compared to most countries, Germany's economy never really went on full military footing. Many manufacturers were poorly regulated anyway because Speer's subordinates were mostly incompetent. It also must be remembered that the government put priority on morale of the civilian population, supplying goods to keep up the myth of "no problems here" until the Rusians were knocking. If you ever get bedridden, "the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" is a good account from a reporter based in Berlin through the whole arc of National Socialism.
I wonder how hard it would be to convert a PPK/PP to 6.35mm. I own both but have never fired them and the PP doesn't have a mag. Now that I know how they were made I might have one done. I collect 25acp/6.35mm pistols (Older high quality versions not the cheap Ring-O-Fire and zinc crap that came out after 68 import ban on small pistols
I believe the walther pp and ppk where best in 32 cal I had a Manchuria the French made ppk and it was designed to fire 32 cal.later I bought a walther ppk in380 and there was alot more kick back the ppk was made at interarms in Alexandra virgina but I still have both of the and the 33 is much easier to fire.
My dad one as a shop gun in his father’s body shop built by old world Germans who came to Chicago in the 1880s. I had it to carry money to the bank. .. I had no idea of how rare it was … somebody stole iT when I was away.
That's a very cool collectible piece. It has to command a very high price since it's a very rare item. I see no reason why it shouldn't. However, I'd never use it as a self-defense tool even while walking alone with my dog at night. .25 auto is too anemic for that purpose, I must say.
Did you use cast for the 25 acp ???? I’m just curious because a gentleman was looking for load data on 25 acp cast projectiles vs fmj. I was able to find and supply him with that data
Tom, you're NOT a good shooter. LOL. You are going left and low, Yugely typical for right hand shooters. You need practice. EVERY Walther PP/PPK I've ever shot (.22lr,32acp, 380acp) was EXTREMELY intrinsically accurate due to the Fixed barrel. PRACTICE Tom.
Indeed and what´s up with that racking the slide while gun is in the left hand and then change it over to the right? An accident waiting to happen! I get it. This is not a regular shooting /self defense channel but safety first. NOW, with that said. Absolutely wonderful guns here! I´m a sucker for these old Walthers. They sure are beautiful guns!
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sheffield is my home town, not lived there for 30 years and after working in Australia and the USA, i am now working in Tanzania, love the videos
Thanks for sharing a rare & beautiful Walther with us. I appreciate your videos more than you'll ever know!
Speaking from experience collecting the pre-1945 European cal 6.35/.25 pistols becomes an addiction. After buying my first Side Latch Mauser about 10 hears back, I was hooked!!
It's weird how stuff can get its hooks in you like that when it's something you never really had an eye on before.
Thank you Tom!
Great to know that you've been in England! I wish you'd said - I'd have bought you a pint of decent beer!
Very entertaining as always. I am a firearms dealer in north Wales I would have loved to have met you when you were over on your vacation. Important that you refer to the UK as the UK. Not England!
I do love those early Webley automatics! If you happen to come across an original zf4 scope Mount for a G/K43 rifle definitely keep me in mind! 😂
Those clever Germans. Stuffing a small mag in a big mag.
Larry likes pp. LoL sorry, I had to. Another great video. When I got the lotto I'll be getting in touch. Such fine weapons.
CZ does it with their CZ Kadet in .22, stuffing the 10 shot .22 mag in a 15 shot 9mm mag!
Wow, I never have seen one. Very neat.
Great Video!!
Lovin the new format Tom
I purchased a S&W Walther PPK in .380/9mm Kurz and hated it - bit like a snake. I now have a Manurhin PP in 32 ACP/7.65mm issued to the Swedish Police and love it! I think eventually I will still want to have a PP in .22 as I think that would be the most fun to shoot. Love your videos.
Totally agree, 380/ 9mm is to much for the PPK design imo.
Happy you corrected your statement about buying their own weapons i wasn't issued a side arm but i bought my own revolver as a driver was easier to use in the cab than trying to swing a M16 around in the cab
Rare pistols I know Tom, but I really enjoy seeing them shoot. Much appreciated. 😊
Mark Felton did a video where he said Adolf Hitler had both a .25 and a .32 PPK with him when he offed himself in the Fuhrerbunker. That made no sense to me at first because I had never heard of a .25 PPK. Now I see they did indeed exist. And the one AH had would easily be the most valuable of all, assuming it still exists.
Nice shooting! And a very spiffy range.
I've seen the .25 calibre TPH model made by Walter but it wasn't a WWII pistol. .380 ACP is called 9 mm Kurz in German speaking countries however Ian McCollum on his channel "Forgotten Weapons" did show us a 9mm Luger Walther PP model blow back operated pistol. Recoil was rough.
Thanks for sharing a look at a rare firearm, as well as all these pistols in action! You sir, have forgotten more about PPs & PPKs than I will EVER know, & I appreciate your sharing of that knowledge! Keep those great videos coming!
That magazine situation is amazing and made me laugh. Very cool.
I believe Jerry would call it 9mm Kurtz, Kurtz meaning short. Hence the StG44 would be 8mm Kurtz.
It's "kurz". Kurtz is the crazy colonel from Apocalypse Now.
@@heiner71 thank you for correcting me. I've always been shit at spelling. I'm sure when I started school here in Canada they thought me retarded. Being born in the Netherlands, I had no idea I was using words from four different languages, something my parents failed to tell me.
Hey shame to have missed you while you were here in the UK! Were you able to visit the Royal Armoury in Leeds, they have the most vast collection of arms and armour including some very rare firearms. I have several PPK & PP's of various calibres from .22LR to 9mmK / .380 ACP though never seen a .25 ACP. In one of my books it describes this as 'rare in either model / nigh-worthless cartridge'!
Nice facial expression when firing, love your channel.
I have postwar PPK in 22 caliber. It shoots very well. I even use it at competition at 25m (27 yd) target shooting.
Hello, Cambridge. UK
what a crack shot well done tom
A friend just bought a new production PPK and I noted with disapproval that the slide flats were almost polished, but the frame sides were brushed. I put this mismatch down to carelessness of the slide being German made and the frame milled in Arkansas, but darned if that 25 doesn't have the same contrast.
Not bad for an old guy using those minuscule sights. Luckily I have both the .25 cal and button release 9mm in my collection. I hope you went to the Imperial War Museum while in London. Bovington and the HMS Victory are still on my bucket list.
Duxford is also worth a visit
Also the 8th USAAF Museum
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Hey nice shootings here. I would love to receive your target if you still have it. Always love the pp & the ppk. Being in Canada these guns are never possible to own. At least I get to hang the target on my office wall ;))
Tom,
(1) Love your Podcasts. Thank you for your heroic rescue of Canadian Lugers!
(2) Did You Know that when Ian Flemming wrote the first James Bond stories, he knew little about firearms and armed Bond with a 6.35mm Walther PPK? True. In one of the films (I forget which) M nags Bond about not carrying an MI-6 authorized weapon (a 9 MM kurz PPK). Bond says he'll attend to it (but of course never does).
(3) in re the Panzer wrap behind you, Google the Malmedy and Chenogne massacres during the Battle of the Bulge. The Panzer Wrap played an unfortunate role. Apparently, a "senior US officer" ordered his men that no SS prisoners were to be taken alive. The US troops in question encountered a group of Army (not SS) Panzer troops attempting to surrender. Mistaking the Army Panzer troops for SS, the Americans slaughtered them. Apparently, during the Bulge fighting there were such incidents, in retribution for other such acts (rumored and actual). How did the Panzer Wrap fit into this? While the SS Panzers wore black from the beginning, the Army started out in Army Grey. They soon realized that working in and around tanks was a dirty, greasy job and their grey uniforms were soon a greasy grimy mess. So the Army Panzers adopted black uniforms that wouldn't show the grease. the Death's Head emblems on both collar tabs (the SS didn't have Death's Heads on their collars (SS runes on the right collar, SS rank insignia on the left, except SS General Officers who wore rank on both sides). In short , "Mistakes Were Made" on both sides. Who knew the Panzer Wrap had so much baggage?
(4) in the 1970's I had both a brand-new Mauser-made Swiss model '29 Luger in 9mm with 6" bbl; and a 42-byf P-38 in well worn but entirely serviceable condition. Tragically, both were burgled in the middle of the night while I was out on patrol. (like Bond before me, I was admonished to carry a .38 or .357 revolver on duty.
If you have not already, it would be cool if you did a podcast on why the .38 and .357 have different numbers yet are both cal. .357. In the unlikely event you didn't know (or care) the reason is the .38 started out as .36 iron weapons which might burst if you put one of the new-fangled smokeless powder cartriges in them. By the time the .357 came around iron guns were few and far between. but the .357 cartidge was more powerful, so they made it a tenth of an inch longer so it wouldn't chamber in a possibly-not-strong-enough .38.
Sorry, once I get going it's hard to stop. Love your channel, good luck, good health and watch out for Mounties.
Wasn't Bond's preferred pistol a Beretta which he had to turn in and they replaced with a PPK. I remember something about stopping power and pane of glass!!!!
Bond's .25 was a pocket Beretta. His PPK was a .32 that according to "M" had great stopping power 😅.
Knowledge is everything!
Bravo...You should go to the range with examples more often. Makes me want to take my common 1976 PPK/S on my next range day.... HMMM, am wondering who will clean these pistols ? Am guessing it will be Randy.
Look at the old modified Weaver Stance!
Careful. Don't hurt your hand anymore.
What's with the diagonal grimace when you shoot?????
I’m glad you decided to put some rounds through the 6.35 pistol. I’m curious as to why Walther were still producing .22 cal pistols so late in the war? You’d think that even as daft as putting so many resources into something as practically useless on a battlefield as a .32 or .38 pistol is: they’d at least stop the .22 because that is surely only a sporting or plinking type piece? I know the reich was terrible at resource allocation but this seems bad even for them 😂
Almost none of the PP series ever saw battlefields anyway, they sat in desks still in the boxes.This might sound incredible but, compared to most countries, Germany's economy never really went on full military footing. Many manufacturers were poorly regulated anyway because Speer's subordinates were mostly incompetent. It also must be remembered that the government put priority on morale of the civilian population, supplying goods to keep up the myth of "no problems here" until the Rusians were knocking. If you ever get bedridden, "the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" is a good account from a reporter based in Berlin through the whole arc of National Socialism.
The shot to the left are from your finger tip pushing to the left when you squeeze.
Great video. You should have clarified its 9mm kurz (9mm short) aka 380 acp.
In Europe, we call the short 9mm as “9mm Browning”
Nice shooting range!!
Now you understand quantum 😂
And thanks for the video
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Another great video. You just need to practice a little more.
I wonder how hard it would be to convert a PPK/PP to 6.35mm. I own both but have never fired them and the PP doesn't have a mag. Now that I know how they were made I might have one done. I collect 25acp/6.35mm pistols (Older high quality versions not the cheap Ring-O-Fire and zinc crap that came out after 68 import ban on small pistols
😂 wow Randy can total OUTSHOOT you 😮
He’s showing us walthers pp
I believe the walther pp and ppk where best in 32 cal I had a Manchuria the French made ppk and it was designed to fire 32 cal.later I bought a walther ppk in380 and there was alot more kick back the ppk was made at interarms in Alexandra virgina but I still have both of the and the 33 is much easier to fire.
My dad one as a shop gun in his father’s body shop built by old world Germans who came to Chicago in the 1880s. I had it to carry money to the bank. .. I had no
idea of how rare it was … somebody stole iT when I was away.
so which one did James Bond shoot with a suppressor? to me verses the collective end of having a shootable replica made better off.
That's a very cool collectible piece. It has to command a very high price since it's a very rare item. I see no reason why it shouldn't. However, I'd never use it as a self-defense tool even while walking alone with my dog at night. .25 auto is too anemic for that purpose, I must say.
25 autos were for close up, but the 22 was and is more versatile even with its flaws. cheaper hard hitting. And compact
Did you use cast for the 25 acp ???? I’m just curious because a gentleman was looking for load data on 25 acp cast projectiles vs fmj. I was able to find and supply him with that data
Should have wheeled out some allied pistols to compare at the range ….
Is this the 25 walther used by the Russian executioner?
🎯How much do people pay for these firearms? I’ve never been to a gun show. Rob St. Thomas USVI
I think the box magazine looks stupid. Doesnt match the beauty of the gun.
Tom, you're NOT a good shooter. LOL. You are going left and low, Yugely typical for right hand shooters. You need practice. EVERY Walther PP/PPK I've ever shot (.22lr,32acp, 380acp) was EXTREMELY intrinsically accurate due to the Fixed barrel. PRACTICE Tom.
Indeed and what´s up with that racking the slide while gun is in the left hand and then change it over to the right? An accident waiting to happen! I get it. This is not a regular shooting /self defense channel but safety first. NOW, with that said. Absolutely wonderful guns here! I´m a sucker for these old Walthers. They sure are beautiful guns!
I prefer the PP's dont take that out of context
Holy lack of finger discipline… not to mention the weaver grip.
Leave Brittany alone!
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Technically it is stolen as it was not his as he took it from a German soldier so yh technically it is stolen
Stolen implies illegally acquired ... which this was not.
Spoils of War.
It was a liberated pistol.😂
So what did you edit out on the first shot? And every PPK I’ve owned had difficult slide loading the first round.