As someone who is scizo effective I hate hate how we are represented as people. There are so many people who have such bad perceptions of us because the media reports so many of the bad reports that people get diagnosed with scizo effective disorder. I've had a good chunk of people who have treated me very different once they learned of my condition. I know pat was curious about how you treat scizo effective disorder. So the most effective way is medication and consistent therapy. I do hope what I've said helps some realize what I've said if yall got questions ask me.
It sucks that so many people see mental illness as dangerous. There are so many more people who commit these sorts of crimes who don't have mental illness such as schizoeffective disorder. To me, having a mental illness is more of a correlation than causation for killing someone.
My grandmother had schizoaffective disorder. Now, she was not a great person, but she was ultimately, harmless. She creeped people out with the romance delusions, but she never hurt anyone. But she wasn't having the types of delusions that would make you hurt people. Because those are rare. Very few people have them, and most of them will try to get help to make sure they don't hurt people. It is very common they will say creepy, weird or eccentric stuff. It is very rare, their brain will strike the combo of creating urgency to do a crime or Unspecified Bad Things may happen.
Daily reminder to everyone that neurodivergent and/or mentally ill people or whatever you want to call them are massively more likely to be the victim of assault and similar crimes than they are to be the perpetrators. The same goes for pretty much all minorities but it gets way more attention when they perpetrate them. (See: When a trans woman is killed it's described as "man in dress found dead in a ditch, suspect in custody" versus when a trans woman commits a crime it's headlines "Trans Woman commits murder of innocent so-and-so!" lest it hurt the narrative that they are dangerous sex pests. And likewise hurt the narrative that neurodivergent people are scary Wrong people who are inherently Insane and Criminal, and that you are nothing like them so you should support the big nice police to Protect you. And don't support tax dollars going to those evil Social Services people who want to HELP these Monsters)
I'm also schizoaffective and have never harmed anyone. It's very frustrating especially when there's a group of people who find the concept funny and do nothing but joke about it, the "I'm in your walls" type of people
It’s so sad that people with severe mental disorders such as schizophrenia and schizo affective disorder are protrayed in such a bad light. As someone who works with clients who have these disorders everyday most of them don’t have delusions like this and don’t engage in violet acts. It’s unfortunate how often mental illnesses is blamed which while in this case it may have played a role it is never the whole story. Such a shame he didn’t get help earlier. Also side note delusions and hallucinations are extremely hard to treat being that for many clients these become reality. The combination of psychotropics and psychotherapy maybe helpful for less intense delusions and hallucinations but many clients still have hallucinations on a daily basis and the goal isn’t always to get rid of them but to help the client manage them using coping skills etc. But of course everything is on a case by case basis
14:35 and I think we should leave that distinction to the experts. He has a severe mental illness, and was committed indefinitely to a mental health facility. If that's something he CAN come back from, then great. If not, well, that's what the "indefinite" part is for.
I mean, I agree with the ruling overall. The whole reason that we have an insanity plea is cases like his: he seems to legitimately not recognize (during the interview) that what he did was bad, and that he would face terrible consequences. That’s why the plea exists. I think Patterz just doesn’t fully understand the concept of what being declared legally insane is aha. (To be fair, a lot of people misunderstand it.)
@@DoKuShOsTaR I dont know, the fact he tried to hide the body and hitchhike to Canads definitely shows he knew he did something bad and he knew he would be punished for it if caught. I think he still has a reasonable insanity claim due to an extreme lack of judgement and empathy and other factors, but he does seem to have understood the consequences of his actions pretty well
I've had several friends with mental disorders. A few had schizophrenia, but I've never met anyone with schizoaffective disorder. Both can be treated with medication (like antipsychotics to help with delusions) and psychotherapy. Please keep in mind that "treatment" and "cure" are not the same thing. Cure removes a condition whereas treatments help a patient live with it. It really sucks that we still don't recognize early symptoms of mental health problems outside of depression, anxiety, and other mood disorders. This man most likely had behavioral patterns that hinted at schizoaffective disorder long before he took another man's life. His actions are still unforgivable. Hopefully with treatment, he won't harm anyone else. I have no idea how someone like that could even return to general society. Doesn't seem possible.
You don't actually want to be insane when it comes to court because being in a mental institute is worse. Very strict diet, forced meds, no freedom to leave, family cannot take you out even for a few hours you are just stuck there and there is nothing you can do. And when I say forced meds I mean the kind that helps rehab the brain but also tranquilizers sedatives antidepressants and the such
Yea, because its meant to be reserved for those who are so far into criminal insanity they are not only a danger to others around them but also themselves; and clearly cannot live alone. Its why ive never understood people trying to fake an insanity plea, personally I think for someone who doesn't require that kind of care it would be far more torture than a regular prison.
The Trench-coat guy is part of a video about people with real psychiatric issues and faked ones. He is used as a foil to a school shooter that tried to say that "the Voices" told him to murder. I can't remember the name of the channel or the video, but I'm sure you will be able to find it in the replies to my comment. It was a great video.
Just to answer some of your curiosity Pat, Schizoeffective disorder is very diagnosable and treatable with antipsychotic meds & therapy, and the vast majority of people with the illness will never be a danger to anyone else. It doesn't make them an irredeemable psychopath or hopelessly insane, just someone with a treatable illness. As someone with bipolar disorder myself, I understand the stigma and stereotypes of these conditions, and some of the medication for Schizoaffective is the same as i'm on myself. People with severe mental illness are 10x more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators.
I had a sister with diagnosed Schizophrenia, and even with her meds it wasn't enough to make her fully ok. She was better, but not totally cured, and my mom had to surrender her rights to her because as a very low income family in the south she didn't have the resources to take care of her, especially with 4 other kids.
So many crimes would never happen if mental health was at the forefront of our societies. Casual and consistent mental checkups should be the norm, nothing invasive. But enough where if someone has issues, if someone has these delusions they can feel free and open to discuss it with someone where they can be helped BEFORE crime is committed. There are so many things we could do to prevent crime instead of focusing on punishing someone after the damage has already been caused A massive majority of crime is committed because of economic status or mental health problems
With the second one you can also see on the clock that it is 10 minutes later when the cop came back into the room, so no chance of catching up for them 😅
I feel so bad for anyone with schizo-affected disorders. They are so horribly portrayed and it makes them sound untreatable and incredibly dangerous. Also fun fact: being put in a mental institute is worse than going to prison. By all accounts. The doctors/govt can keep you there indefinitely. Some people get let out of prison, even after doing the most disgusting things imaginable
# 0001 In regards to Jerrod's case, this reminds me of the Doki Doki Literature Club+ game where you can look at one of Yuri's files and it has a secret story of this girl who I believe was a college student and she too wanted to know what it was like to just murder someone. And much like Jerrod here, she wanted to target someone whom she believed was a person of "least impact". Long story short, she found a lonely woman in her 30s at a grocery store and studied her. Then some time later, she went to her house and they talked for a bit before the college girl stabbed her to death with a knife. As someone who also a loner even though I'm loved by my relatives, that's a bit scary of a situation.
People act like American guns are the cause of every violent act ever. Literally everyone and their grandmother can grab a kitchen knife or make a shiv out of a stick. The Murray situation would have been basically the same if he killed with a knife because he was on a drive with his friend and he would already have the moment of surprise to seal the deal. But yes, tye fact anyone you know could be an errant thought away from ending you is horrifying.
Uhhhh no. He didn’t shoot his friend…. What are you listening to? Cause it’s not this interrogation….. dude every video of yours is always off the wall nonsensical….. you need to get off your computer and get out in the world.
As someone who is scizo effective I hate hate how we are represented as people. There are so many people who have such bad perceptions of us because the media reports so many of the bad reports that people get diagnosed with scizo effective disorder. I've had a good chunk of people who have treated me very different once they learned of my condition. I know pat was curious about how you treat scizo effective disorder. So the most effective way is medication and consistent therapy. I do hope what I've said helps some realize what I've said if yall got questions ask me.
Man it has to sucks, either they downplay the illness or thinks you in a bad light, hope you the best
It sucks that so many people see mental illness as dangerous. There are so many more people who commit these sorts of crimes who don't have mental illness such as schizoeffective disorder. To me, having a mental illness is more of a correlation than causation for killing someone.
My grandmother had schizoaffective disorder. Now, she was not a great person, but she was ultimately, harmless. She creeped people out with the romance delusions, but she never hurt anyone. But she wasn't having the types of delusions that would make you hurt people.
Because those are rare. Very few people have them, and most of them will try to get help to make sure they don't hurt people. It is very common they will say creepy, weird or eccentric stuff. It is very rare, their brain will strike the combo of creating urgency to do a crime or Unspecified Bad Things may happen.
Daily reminder to everyone that neurodivergent and/or mentally ill people or whatever you want to call them are massively more likely to be the victim of assault and similar crimes than they are to be the perpetrators.
The same goes for pretty much all minorities but it gets way more attention when they perpetrate them. (See: When a trans woman is killed it's described as "man in dress found dead in a ditch, suspect in custody" versus when a trans woman commits a crime it's headlines "Trans Woman commits murder of innocent so-and-so!" lest it hurt the narrative that they are dangerous sex pests. And likewise hurt the narrative that neurodivergent people are scary Wrong people who are inherently Insane and Criminal, and that you are nothing like them so you should support the big nice police to Protect you. And don't support tax dollars going to those evil Social Services people who want to HELP these Monsters)
I'm also schizoaffective and have never harmed anyone. It's very frustrating especially when there's a group of people who find the concept funny and do nothing but joke about it, the "I'm in your walls" type of people
Pat is in police arc now
It’s so sad that people with severe mental disorders such as schizophrenia and schizo affective disorder are protrayed in such a bad light. As someone who works with clients who have these disorders everyday most of them don’t have delusions like this and don’t engage in violet acts. It’s unfortunate how often mental illnesses is blamed which while in this case it may have played a role it is never the whole story. Such a shame he didn’t get help earlier. Also side note delusions and hallucinations are extremely hard to treat being that for many clients these become reality. The combination of psychotropics and psychotherapy maybe helpful for less intense delusions and hallucinations but many clients still have hallucinations on a daily basis and the goal isn’t always to get rid of them but to help the client manage them using coping skills etc. But of course everything is on a case by case basis
"This man has a fedora." This is the most hilarious insult I have ever heard.
14:35
and I think we should leave that distinction to the experts. He has a severe mental illness, and was committed indefinitely to a mental health facility.
If that's something he CAN come back from, then great. If not, well, that's what the "indefinite" part is for.
I mean, I agree with the ruling overall. The whole reason that we have an insanity plea is cases like his: he seems to legitimately not recognize (during the interview) that what he did was bad, and that he would face terrible consequences. That’s why the plea exists. I think Patterz just doesn’t fully understand the concept of what being declared legally insane is aha. (To be fair, a lot of people misunderstand it.)
@@DoKuShOsTaR I dont know, the fact he tried to hide the body and hitchhike to Canads definitely shows he knew he did something bad and he knew he would be punished for it if caught. I think he still has a reasonable insanity claim due to an extreme lack of judgement and empathy and other factors, but he does seem to have understood the consequences of his actions pretty well
I've had several friends with mental disorders. A few had schizophrenia, but I've never met anyone with schizoaffective disorder. Both can be treated with medication (like antipsychotics to help with delusions) and psychotherapy. Please keep in mind that "treatment" and "cure" are not the same thing. Cure removes a condition whereas treatments help a patient live with it.
It really sucks that we still don't recognize early symptoms of mental health problems outside of depression, anxiety, and other mood disorders. This man most likely had behavioral patterns that hinted at schizoaffective disorder long before he took another man's life. His actions are still unforgivable. Hopefully with treatment, he won't harm anyone else. I have no idea how someone like that could even return to general society. Doesn't seem possible.
You don't actually want to be insane when it comes to court because being in a mental institute is worse. Very strict diet, forced meds, no freedom to leave, family cannot take you out even for a few hours you are just stuck there and there is nothing you can do. And when I say forced meds I mean the kind that helps rehab the brain but also tranquilizers sedatives antidepressants and the such
That’s the case for some of them, but to be fair there are some that are really nice
Yea, because its meant to be reserved for those who are so far into criminal insanity they are not only a danger to others around them but also themselves; and clearly cannot live alone. Its why ive never understood people trying to fake an insanity plea, personally I think for someone who doesn't require that kind of care it would be far more torture than a regular prison.
The Trench-coat guy is part of a video about people with real psychiatric issues and faked ones.
He is used as a foil to a school shooter that tried to say that "the Voices" told him to murder.
I can't remember the name of the channel or the video, but I'm sure you will be able to find it in the replies to my comment.
It was a great video.
Interrogation any% speedrun wr:
Just to answer some of your curiosity Pat, Schizoeffective disorder is very diagnosable and treatable with antipsychotic meds & therapy, and the vast majority of people with the illness will never be a danger to anyone else. It doesn't make them an irredeemable psychopath or hopelessly insane, just someone with a treatable illness. As someone with bipolar disorder myself, I understand the stigma and stereotypes of these conditions, and some of the medication for Schizoaffective is the same as i'm on myself. People with severe mental illness are 10x more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators.
I had a sister with diagnosed Schizophrenia, and even with her meds it wasn't enough to make her fully ok. She was better, but not totally cured, and my mom had to surrender her rights to her because as a very low income family in the south she didn't have the resources to take care of her, especially with 4 other kids.
So many crimes would never happen if mental health was at the forefront of our societies.
Casual and consistent mental checkups should be the norm, nothing invasive. But enough where if someone has issues, if someone has these delusions they can feel free and open to discuss it with someone where they can be helped BEFORE crime is committed.
There are so many things we could do to prevent crime instead of focusing on punishing someone after the damage has already been caused
A massive majority of crime is committed because of economic status or mental health problems
The moment I begin a true crime binge for the first time in my life
You upload this
Damn
Guess I gotta watch it again
10:58 that's the plot of Psycho Pass and it mostly worked, until it didn't
they trying to do the prison% speedrun
Bro just be making anything and I love it
With the second one you can also see on the clock that it is 10 minutes later when the cop came back into the room, so no chance of catching up for them 😅
This video is just about people speedrunning confessions
3:15 don’t worry man he isn’t making out of prison
The inmates don’t appreciate people who assault others especially minors
It’s elementary my dear patterz
I Started Jojo Exactly 2 Weeks Ago, Can't Believe I'm Already At The Last Stretch Of Part 4.
As an American I can confirm that a gun can be bought by anyone at any gas station any time of the day.
I have never seen guns for sale at a gas station here but have seen them at Walmart before.
I feel so bad for anyone with schizo-affected disorders. They are so horribly portrayed and it makes them sound untreatable and incredibly dangerous.
Also fun fact: being put in a mental institute is worse than going to prison. By all accounts. The doctors/govt can keep you there indefinitely. Some people get let out of prison, even after doing the most disgusting things imaginable
CONFESSION SPEEDRUN GO
2:20 💀
Great vid❤
I finally came to a patterz vid early
“Yeah I did it, but-“
We’re done here
Even if he was telling the truth, noone going to believe it
# 0001 In regards to Jerrod's case, this reminds me of the Doki Doki Literature Club+ game where you can look at one of Yuri's files and it has a secret story of this girl who I believe was a college student and she too wanted to know what it was like to just murder someone. And much like Jerrod here, she wanted to target someone whom she believed was a person of "least impact". Long story short, she found a lonely woman in her 30s at a grocery store and studied her. Then some time later, she went to her house and they talked for a bit before the college girl stabbed her to death with a knife.
As someone who also a loner even though I'm loved by my relatives, that's a bit scary of a situation.
It was actually the blunt end of an axe that she used at first 🤓
2:49 he just said he was 18
Were there people in the chat trying to tell him that? Or did they too forget
My dogs are smarter than that first guy
a ginger police this is getting interesting
i love the vd
I confess that i emulate games
Did i break the record?
If you own a copy it's not breaking the law
@@rose_speedrunner I don't own the majority of them
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When the pect is sus
People act like American guns are the cause of every violent act ever. Literally everyone and their grandmother can grab a kitchen knife or make a shiv out of a stick. The Murray situation would have been basically the same if he killed with a knife because he was on a drive with his friend and he would already have the moment of surprise to seal the deal. But yes, tye fact anyone you know could be an errant thought away from ending you is horrifying.
It is significantly harder to defend against a gun though.
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Uhhhh no. He didn’t shoot his friend…. What are you listening to? Cause it’s not this interrogation….. dude every video of yours is always off the wall nonsensical….. you need to get off your computer and get out in the world.
CONFESSION SPEEDRUN GO