Vietnam Communist Weapons - AK-47 to SKS - A Short History
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Bought an SKS in '95 for $125.00 and still own it. Only had to change the recoil spring in all those years. Zero misfires out of nearly 10 thousand rounds. Excellent for hunting. Great multi-purpose weapon.
Bought a semi auto AK47 at the store here in CALI back in the 80s before the ban for 300 bucks VS the Ranch Rifle that was 450 still have the ranch rifle sold the AK wish I had kept it still have the Ruger
@@Jeffagarcia66 Had a Ruger Ranch Rifle myself. I had problems on occasion with jamming... usually when needing to be cleaned. Didn't find it as trustworthy as my SKS.
@@mr.b3837 the the AK I had the same thing some mags were better than others but still would jam once I was getting comfortable ..now stop clear the jam continue became the norm but like I said mostly the cheap Mags not the gun itself...not worth keeping being so cheap but now I cannot even own one in Cali so..The Ruger you do have to clean and clean or it will malfunction but I never fire it all that much so I have been lucky...I dont use the big mags at the range here I am afraid I will get in trouble so I go to AZ for that
@@Jeffagarcia66 I moved from Cali before some of the more restrictive laws were in place. My buddy brought his guns for me to hold until he can make a move up here in Oregon. So far, we are doing better than Cali as far as gun laws in the more conservative So. Oregon counties.
@@mr.b3837 yup...The taxes on our home keep going up its going to be...bye bye CALI hello anywhere else been here all my life to just a mess
The SKS entered service first, so it should have been introduced BEFORE the AK-47. 🇷🇺
I was surprised to see that they didn't talk about the SKS first too. But, then again, they need to keep their audience captivated, and let's be real - the AK is SUPER iconic. Arguably THE most iconic weapon worldwide. They wanted to mention it for that reason.
The SKS is such an Underrated Rifle. I have one and absolutely love lt.
New drinking game...take a drink everytime someone posts " I bought an sks or ak for "this much in the 90's"..
My liver couldn't take that much booze and my patience the old man hurumphing; I get enough at gunshows.
"I remember back when you could walk into your local gun shop and buy a crate of SKS's and a thousand rounds of ammo for a wooden nickel! Did I mention the clerk would also throw in a free shoe shine? Not to mention he'd jack you off just for being a loyal customer. Life sure was different before the ban. Now, if anybody's interested in purchasing a Type 56, just PayPal me $900. I know what I've got."
Haha, I'm one of "those people"
+bornfuct Haha, yep, both of my AKMs ( a Chinese MAK 90 and Romanian made Romak, both used at purchase and still reliable and function with narry a hiccup, and they still run great ), along with a Chinese Norinco SKS copy I bought in the early 90s, all for a song ( which saved me a good deal of money to buy chest rigs, surplus ammo, and extra mags and see which I like best ). I keep an AK at my bedside and Glock 21 on my nightstand. It's crazy how much they've gotten to be. Someone is offering me a good deal on a Yugoslavian M-70, which means that I will soon have 3 AKs, which calls for another Tac vest/chest rig for it. I'm looking at the SSO/SPOSN machine gunner's belt/harness/ruck/PKM pouches ( which should hold 5 or 6 30s in each PKM box pouch ) rig. Does anyone have experience with or own a setup like that? If so, would you recommend that rig for someone that loads "ammo heavy"? I'm aware the mags will rattle in those big PKM pouches and will be heavy, but I'm willing to let them rattle ( and the weight of the mags can get scarily light during contact and shooting your way clear if you encounter a superior force ) if the rig and it's MOLLE attachments will allow me to carry the ammo/mags, meds bags, trauma kit, vacuum sealed ammo to reload magazines, and field gear to keep me sustained for a day or two ( since it does come with a small, MOLLE knapsack. I figure that I could load it with things like paracord, an extra LED flashlight, headlamp, meds bags, trauma/bleeder's kit, extra ammo, a couple MREs, extra pair of sofies, canteens, Esbit, fire bag, tarp, poncho, and so on ).
Drinks are on me, because I bought an SKS, in Viet Nam, for $60 in 1972.
I got it from a Green Beret.
It looked like it was dug up, and wiped down before I got it.
The only ammo I could get here, in 1973, was from Norma.
Thank you for this concise summary of the USSR - Communist China primary battle rifles. My memories of US Army service in the US war in Vietnam are still too clear. One unforgettable sound is of the AK-47's dueling with our M-16's and the ping pong effect of the green and red tracers. "Blessed are the peacemakers."
The sks got pushed to the side but still a great rugged little carbine 🎯
No ❤
matt nelson what? Sks is the best...
SKS is a solid rifle.
The Chinese used it as their main rifle for decades. They preferred it over the ak because it was better suited to their form of warfare.
I'd feel just about as good with an sks as with an ak as long as it had the larger mag
You can buy a Chinese or a Russian one at Cabella's for dirt cheap and the ammo even cheaper. Good to go. Don't kid yourself that an SKS is somehow inferior.
Not easy to find a “dirt cheap” Soviet (Russian) SKS for quite a few years now (unless you’re in Canada)... even the Chicom ones are north of $300 if you’re lucky... years ago, yea, you could get a dirt cheap SKS. Unless you’re talking Tula or Wolf ammo, there isn’t anymore cheap ammo either... the day’s of cheap crates of ammo are gone too...
@@JoeyP322 Cabellas is a Canadian company
It is inferior. Theres a reason why it was ditched for the AK. But that DOES NOT mean it is ineffective
@Dani Al
In USA, businesses have not been allowed to import for commercial sale to ordinary people any Chinese made rifless or even most Chinese ammunition since 1993. That is why our prices for pre ban NORINCO rifles are ridiculously high.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco#Trade_disputes_with_the_United_States
Stripper feeding allows you to "Top Off" and is a continuous, repetitive process whereas mag feed requires the stop to load the mag, breaking cadence.....also, the AK cannot be stripper loaded.
I’ve had several & they’re ALL great! Never misfires, easy to maintain, fun to shoot & cheaper ammo! It’s basically a .308 short rd., & plenty powerful!
Yes, the AK-47 is derived from the StG44, but not its direct decendent. Most people are simple minded and get confused when this is mentioned, and think the fact that it's not a bolt for bolt copy disproves the claim. AS-44 was more or less a copy of the StG44, and the AK-47 was a refinement of that. They even had the same papa, Hugo Schmiesser. Yes, Mikhail was around there somewhere in the Izhevsk plant getting blind drunk and showing up in the office now and then to give Hugo the slave beatings, but that doesn't mean he "created" anything at all. Too many people fall for Soviet propaganda.
When you look at the M-14 you have to ask, Did US weapons designers really learn anything from WW2?
richard cutts plenty of designers did, the generals didn’t.
Even before WWII, American designers understood that a 6.5 or 7mm cartridge with less recoil was desirable for the self loading infantry rifles being developed. Google on .276 Garand-
th-cam.com/video/AwntZVIoPpI/w-d-xo.html
But budgets, Douglas MacArthur, "fighting the last war" mentality, the Ordnance Dept. and Springfieled arsenal bureaucracies kept the 30-06 for the Garand and then mismanaged the post WWII development to saddle USA and NATO with the over powered, excessively recoiling 7.62x51select fire rifles we wasted our time and money on in the 50s and 60s.
@@QuantumMechanic_88
What years were you in Vietnam?
@@QuantumMechanic_88 try to fire a m-14 on full auto and try to figure out where the bullets went.
They went from.308 to .223 because it was killing the enemy to quickly. There’s money in war and if it ends quick there’s no profit.
The SKS is my favorite weapon even today. It's just fun to shoot. I have owned seven of them in the last 15 years and I have never had a slam fire. I found the accuracy to be on par with any lever action 30-30 I've ever owned
I shot my brother-in-law's SKS...seemed well made. Had a hang fire...slammed bolt forward, weapon discharged. Bullet went into 12" X 12" beam. Quietly gave rifle back to owner.
@@xzqzq there's something I'm realizing about these stories. It's usually someone who buys and SKS and drive straight to the range or, they're firing somebody else's rifle when they have the slam fire phenomenon. I know it's possible. So I never chamber around indoors. However, maybe that's the difference every time I buy an old milsurp rifle I go through it clean and maintain it. That was one of the things I did on my SKS every time I bought one. Lubed up the bolt made sure the firing pin was not stuck in the forward or rear position. I wouldn't let that discourage you from owning one however you could build a cheap AR for the price of a good SKS nowadays
@@jonesperkins1382 The only current military-caliber rifles I have shot & liked - Ruger Mini-30, in 7.62 X 39, kind of upgraded M-1 Carbine, and friend's Moisan-Nagant, which put the bullet where I aimed, and I attempted ( unsuccessfully ) to buy on the spot. Loved 7.62 X 25 Tok, in friend's CZ-52...and of course my Mausers, which I told the wife to put in the casket with me !
George Ulicny easy fix, when cleaning the rifle shake the BCG and make sure the firing pin is loose and always make sure the pin is not protruding when racking your first round at the range.
@@jonesperkins1382 Yeah, but I would prefer the more reliable and more powerful SKS, even with it's 10 round capacity, to even the best AR-15 with 30 round mags since I know how to shoot ( not saying the other guy doesn't, but I generally don't miss ) and would rather my rounds that connect to put a threat on his ass and keep him there until I can call 911 ( which, given the remoteness of my house, it would probably be 20 minutes until the cops showed up. I have to be responsible for our safety here ). Heck, I'd prefer any of my WW2 bolt actions, a .30 U.S. M1 Carbine, or my 30-30 lever action Winchester carbine to a jam-prone, high powered .22. I would also carry a 7 or 8 round mag, nice quality 1911 in .45 ACP to a 15 or 18 round 9x19 mm any day. If there is an intruder and I had to act quickly, with a choice of my Series 80 Colt 1911 or the greatest "wonder 9" on the market to arm myself with in a hurry and grab to confront said intruder, the 1911 is easily my choice. My SKS is a Chinese Norinco copy with a spike bayonet and it has always performed excellently. I've never had a slam fire, or any malfunction. You are right on about field stripping and cleaning milsurp ( or any used gun, such as you might buy at gun shows ) before putting a gun into rotation. I know a guy that has a nice gun collection and he doesn't even think of maintaining them. I tell him "bro, you really need to keep these maintained and lubed". Such advice generally falls on deaf ears. It's sad because he's got some really nice, cool guns and they will be rusted solid by the time his son inherits them
First time I shot an AK47 in Croatia I fell in love with it. I now own several AK's and SKS's.
Which is better
Should have never sold my ak big mistake.
First off; there were two separate engagements. The first was the "indochina war" and it started in 1946, not 1945 - which engaged the French. The second was the "Vietnam war" or simply, the "second indochina war"... and that was from 1955 until 1975, where's that engagement involved the southern separatists (ARvN) and American lead NATO forces.
You're welcome. 👍
@Eric Zombrow We are only friends to communists when they need us and there are bigger threats than us.
@@TrungNguyen-cr1nk Well, what can I say? In geopolitic, there are no forever friend or foe, just *national benefit* . ;)
Nocturnal Recluse who you arguing against?
@@TrungNguyen-cr1nk wow , it really rare when some Vietnamese know what was really happenned
I am living in Vietnam, and I am one of those people known as Viet Cong. And I agree with your thoughts. With what I know about the Vietnam War, I believe that when choosing Communism, Uncle Ho did not see it as a destination, but only as a way for Vietnam to have the resources to fight the division. separating, opposing those who use force to oppress the people, dividing territories, the only way to unify the country and liberate the people. that's why there was a period when the Communist International considered Uncle Ho not a true communist but a nationalist and isolated Uncle Ho. For Vietnamese people, any regime is fine, as long as the country must be independent, the people must be peaceful and prosperous and the people must be free - that is, they have the right to decide their own destiny. From ancient to ancient times, any person who violates these things will all Vietnamese people will resist, one person will fall down and another will stand up until his new success. and in that period, with the situation at that time, communism was the most appropriate choice or it could be said to be the only one to regain independence for the nation. and until now the reality has proved that choice is correct, otherwise the country of Vietnam is no different from North Korea and South Korea today.
On patrol in Vietnam with the First Battalion 26th Marines (Deckhouse Three - Phase Two), I came upon a VC/NVA campsite and found a Moisen Nagant bolt action and barrel without a stock that had been carried (and obviously fired) without a stock. It must have taken quite a brave man to fire a 7.62x54 round without a stock...
Thank you for your service.
It’s a shame the SKS is so forgotten, it got stuck in a weird spot between its little brother the mosin and its big brother the AK
It's actual big brother was the PTRS-41.
The SKS is essentially a PTRS downsized to use the 7.62X39 cartridge instead of the 14.5X114.
It would be more appropriate to compare the SKS to the SVT when discussing a precursor as opposed to the Mosin.
Vietnamese also used some bolt-action too. Kar98. Mosin Nagant. SVT. PPsH etc... and lots of locally made small arms
I saw several Nagants in this video.
If someone sat on a salt shaker,would it be considered Ass salt?😳😂
I got some ass salt for you
In our country, tree branches also become weapons to kill invaders!
Loved the reply of General Giap, when asked about Vietnam war....' To which are you referring ? We have had 5 since the Americans were here '.
Come to my country and invade and we will be behind every rock, tree, and blade of grass.... for we have almost 400 million firearms of all types own by 100 million Americans.... Now which one of you foolish country gonna try and confiscate them?
@@11B30Inf nobody's going to confiscate your guns but your own government just wait for full on SWJ come to power
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I was issued a M-16 in Vietnam, not many soldiers liked the supped-up .22 cal. would swap for the m-60 pig anytime. 4th inf. div. 1st. plt. 10th armored cav.
+Gale Sams Had I been in Vietnam ( or even in the military now in Afghanistan ), I would have shouldered my M-16 as soon as I found a dead enemy with a good AK with plenty of extra mags ( replenishing my ammo when I came across dead enemy ) and use that AK. Was that allowed when you were in the service or would you get chewed out for picking up AKs? I've always wondered if that was allowed. I don't like the jam prone, high powered .22 ( 5.56 ) and rifles built on the AR-15 frame. The AK in 7.62x39 mm is my top choice for rifle, the .45 ACP for pistols ( I don't care for 9 mm, especially the Beretta M92FS ). I bought an M9 in the 90s and, in addition to being ( IMO ) a weak, under-powered and puny "maybe" round ( maybe it will neutralize the threat, maybe he still keeps shooting ), after I would put a couple 15 round, factory mags on targets with it the gun would start into a series of stoppages that would cause it to jam about halfway into a mag ( and I take care of my guns and use factory mags ). I just got the M92FS because of it being U.S. military ( and many police departments' ) standard pistol and caliber. I figured if SHTF happened, it would be easy to find extra rounds, mags, and parts for. Still not worth having a gun that will shoot 30-something rounds and become a bludgeoning weapon, so I had to sell it, haha
@@cthulhu6697 I’ve heard many story’s of US soldiers tossing their M16s for AKs because they found them more reliable, and everyone has a preference. I’m not sure if they got chewed out for swapping weapons but if I had to guess I would say no. As long as you’re doing what your suppose to do, weapon you’re using shouldn’t matter
The round works, just ask the guy in Kenosha who lost his arm to it.
The AK-47 best weapon the Germans ever designed
As he was recovering from wounds......or so goes the story told to us by USSR😂
I love both platforms tremendously. Great guns.
The best rifle ever invented
Other than the uncomfortable fact of having people shoot at you, the Vietnam War must have been a gun collectors paradise.
My dad who spent a year June 1967 to June 1968 said "VietNam is incredibly beautiful if not for the fact people were trying to kill me."
@@daGO_BLUE That is funny , yet in a sad way.
@@daGO_BLUE I thought Afghanistan was beautiful until the first IED.
Everybody gangster till the bushes start speaking Vietnamese.
Peyton Mauk amen
Say hi to my ak too.
Bush( bok bak boak bok )
Sks is a great gun for war.
Great video and very informative
You can't go wrong with either one that's why i have both and honestly those are my favorite rifles ever hands down
1st off the type 1 AK47 was stamped with type 2 and 3 being milled after that was the iconic most notable and easily recognizable stamped AKM. Calling a stamped and riveted AKM an AK47 needs to stop. 2nd making it seem like Michael Kalashnikov was handing each terrorist an AK one by one all 10+ million at a time is rough. The rights to the design and manufacturing data were provided to many of the country's listed in the video. So really they were mostly domestic reproductions manufactured in the same regions as the insurgent conflicts. The ammo that was used for the AK and the SKS was chosen for quicker follow up shots and better control in automatic fire which would not have been possible in the previous Russian combat rifle ammo cartridge the 7.62×54R. These are a few of the glaring inconsistencies I picked up on.
Just bought myself a russian SKS 1951 as my first firearm.... i wonder what its history :D
The "curved magazine" of the AK and SKS were required because of the pronounced taper of the 7.62x39 cartridge. AKs which have been produced in 5.56 caliber do not have such radically curved magazines, but are more gently curved just like 30 rd. AR15 magazines. The magazine was designed for the cartridge. Curved magazines were not some magical innovation of the Kalashnikov, but rather a physical requirement and were common in many other automatic and semi-automatic rifles and machine guns chambered for tapered or rimmed cartridges. Chauchat and Bren gun just to name two. Less tapered, rimless cartridge chambered firearms require little or no curve in the magazine...BAR, M-14, FAL, M-16 (20 rd), etc.
"US involvement in Vietnam ended August 15, 1973"..."Three years later, on April 30, 1975..." That's less than TWO YEARS. Good grief. "Into a communist republic once again" "Once again"???? When was it a communist republic BEFORE? Words mean things.
I made a comment too about "once again" being used. Who ever wrote the script is a commie loving fool. You can tell their bias.
Ahh the not so common 5.56 AK Variant's. Almost bought a Valmet in 5.56, wish I did. I am curious why you choosed to bring up 5.56 AK's and not the AK-74 being the reson for a less curved mag do to the 5.45x39 cartridge?
@@EvilClipazine Simple. The 5.45x39 also has a lot of body taper and because of that magazines for that cartridge are also curved. My point is that heavily tapered and/or rimmed cartridges require curved magazines. It really is not an issue of the AK47/74 but rather the cartridges they are chambered for.
The 5.56 NATO cartridge has very little body taper and does not require as curved a magazine to function.
I grabbed this twodisk DVD at local flea market place watched it stupid number of times. More than most would believe.
Weapons like the AK-47, in fact any weapon, are not evil, people who use them can be evil, or good, depends on who you are, what your fighting for or against, the AK-47 being the most numerous weapon either produced lends itself to the media labelling it as evil.
Man this reminds me of watching the history channel on highschool
Love Vietnam..ho Chi Minh Vietnam..🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳😘😘😘😘
My go to pair of rifles.
Sks on the Rd 👋 is like nuking hall doors 👍
A Yugo sks using a 22 inch barrel and a very reliable 20 round magazine is very accurate. I am biased bc I like longer rifles. Plus you can shut the gas off on the yugo, giving a bit more
Love my SKS. A true tack driver.
I dumped my ar platforms and went with the ak and sks just from projectile ballistic numbers alone.
The proven battlefield tuff ness and rugged atmosphere these weapons were used in made my decision for me
Can anybody tell me, how many SKS rifles did the NVA and VC have, and how many AK-47's did they have? What was the rough breakdown between the 2 in NVA and VC inventory?
Great video.
What is an "assult" weapon? Does it mean if I use a golf club to commit a muder does the golf club become an assult club?
Yes sir. I have an assault putter propping up my window right now.
It become s a assault weapon
@@goodpeoplefound7940 lol.
+Me Nu The term "assault weapon" is a leftist, gun-grabbing liberal media scare term for military rifles and their semi-auto civilian versions ( which are officially designated "main battle rifle" by the military ). Now that it's been in common use for such a long time it no longer has the "scare factor", the gun grabbers have come up with the term "black rifle" to scare the average person, who often have little knowledge of firearms, in the hopes that people will will say something like "black rifle? That sounds serious. I don't want people running around with black rifle death blasters, let's ban them from civilian ownership". They will stop at nothing to pass anti-gun legislation
"yessireebob, that's what it means. You have assault pencils and pens, bats, sticks, rocks, paper clips, hands and a whole lot more. We should ban them all, they are scary looking..."
AVS-26 was designed off a Mexican semi-auto rifle made by Manuel Mondragón . The first of its kind and the grandfather of all to come after it..
🇦🇺😎👍Hey Big John …If you were in Australia shooting next to a road and somebody saw you , they’d probably call the police and you have to answer a lot of questions quickly. You’d probably end up getting shot stone dead. Too true. They don’t like guns down here. They see sporting shooters as being people more likely to loose the plot an do a massacre..great video big guy 🏁
The US of A suffered over 58,000 men killed in action.
Plus over 300,000 seriously injured.
So total number of casualties is about 360,000.
SKS. Sk yes. Any day. All day. Every day. The best one gun for any and all purposes. Longer range. Survival scenarios are what it is better for
the AK47 is probrably the best rifle ever made
I keep hearing him say "Kalishnikov"
I bought a norinco in 95 still got it
Every gun in existince is based on what came before it, the Kalash is no different. What sets it apart is it´s almost perfect translation from prototype to mass production firearm. This is a Soviet thing it seems, look at the Soviet era Mosin-Nagant models, the PPSh-41 and later on PPS-43 and then SKS models.
I'm South Vietnamese
Wow, of all the videos I have watched about these. This was the closest to truly boring. Nice job
Internal magazine. Its interesting to see how all these manufacturers all intersect. I.e browning/FN in the world, wars and especially Korea error 1950s rifles are interesting
Why is the rear sight flipped up on two different SKS rifles?
8:02 It said 'reunification into a communist republic once again'. Shouldn't that be 'unification into a communist republic.'?
We were a communist republic since 1945, after 1954 the geneva convention separate Vietnam into 2 and supposedly reunified in 1956
@@tritruongminh9941 Ok. I always thought that there was supposed to be a referendum (on unification) in the south, that was never held because the south's rulers believed they would loose. Thank you for the information.
"Communist republic" is an oxymoron.
@@judsongaiden9878 wanna introduce some freedom with napalm and Agent - Orange again? Or maybe american democracy is oxymoron too?
*see's sight lifted up*
*visible rage*
Yes, this bothers me too.
I have shot one of these even with a composite stock it was heavy for a rifle
Very good!
....In various movies about the Vietnam war and some documentaries, they include the sound of a communist machine gun that makes a distinctive popping sound. It may have a comparatively slower rate of fire and I think it's a larger gun with a tripod. (or whatever they call the support legs.) What is that weapon called?
The number one widely used semi here in canuckiztan
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what type of AK in 3:30?
Type 56 with an mounted flashhyder
Not sure if it's true, but I've heard that the accuracy from a AK-47 is so bad that you can't hit a elephant with it.
They did have the superior weapon the AK-47 as compared to the M 16 which kept jamming up . Solders were found dead with their M 16. Stripped down trying to unjam it . It was touted as the weapon that never needed cleaning or oil . What a joke the weapon was never tested in jungles or damp areas that have monsoon rains
One key resone of the first M16's colossal failer was the issueing of the wrong ammo. The M16 was designed too use stick powder not ball powder running the system out of sink not allowing a clean extraction of spent rounds. InRangeTV explains this a little in Mud Test: Mattel Death Trap! and Small Arms Solution gose into deep detail in this video, th-cam.com/video/NYar4Zf8jH8/w-d-xo.html
Love the sks
I wish i had the money to buy the one that was made from clayco.
500 ae VN đâu rồi
Vietcong joined the chat
.... Oh this is the gun i use to defeat enemy
No such thing as an "assault" rifle ! ALL rifles, when used in an offensive manner, could be called "assault" rifles. A 30-30 lever action could then be similarly designated as an "assault" rifle. Where do you draw the line? That scary term means nothing, other than to trigger a negative effect on those folks unfamiliar with firearms and the 2A.
The M249 saw can be mag fed, is full auto and fires an intermediate round. That's the "definition" of an assault rifle. It just shows how ridiculous it is.
@@Turgz : Yep. 249 smile generator !! " Happiness is a belt-fed weapon! ".... probably said by EVERY squad machine gunner ever.
Lop-Wa ok boomer
@@Turgz The Definition of assault rifle is a rifle that is selective-fire chambered in an Intermediate cartridge with a detachable box magazine. The Rifle and selective-fire part takes the 249 SAW out of the equation. Assult weapons on the other hand is a completely made up turm from politician to try and get people to ban comen used firearms from the people. Just like when they say military style weapons or military type weapons. Weapons of war anyone? Oh and the new one one the block is assult Firearms.
@@Bootbandwarlord Whatever. As far as I'm concerned, ANY "label" and/or restriction of our rights to Keep and Bear Arms.... is an INFRINGEMENT! I don't care what politicians (or anyone else) calls them. I swore my oath over 50 years ago, and that oath STILL means EVERYTHING to me.
If you had to choose, only one, between a 1953 Tula SKS or a Mini 14 Series 196, which one?
+Slideglide The SKS, no contest. I would take a more powerful round ( and both the round and the rifle are plenty accurate to realistic combat distances for most contact situations ). Also, Tula has been making arms and ammunition for the Russian military since the Czars were in power in the 1800s. There is something to say for a company that has been in business, doing what they do well, for that long. Tula must be doing something right.The rifles of the 1950s vintage, especially the real Soviet made weapons and not copies, are of very good quality. Plus, when are you gonna have another opportunity to get a 1950s, Cold War era, real deal Soviet SKS?
As to the Mini 14, while being way more affordable and reliable than an AR-15/M-16 in my experience, it's still a 5.56 and I would rather arm myself with something more powerful, even if the Mini 14 does carry twice as many rounds. Since it's a reliable, affordable, combat-accurate rifle that is chambered in the same rounds as our ( and NATO ) standard main battle rifle, and many police SWAT/patrol rifles, I figured I should get a 5.56 in case of SHTF ( easier to loot ammo from dead military, National Guard, police, and many civilians to replenish my load ), I bought a Ruger Mini 14 and a "Flick"/FLC ( which you can get in like new shape used for $12 easily ) set up for it. The rifles are good for a 5.56, but the factory mags ( after markets are well known to jam ) are so expensive ( Ruger should have made the rifle to chamber standard M-16 mags ) that I only have 6 extra 20 round mags, plus a mag in the gun; not exactly "combat load" when you are your supply/resupply. I bought a surplus, open top, triple stacker ( 3 mags in front of 3 more for the space of 6 MOLLE loops ) which I MOLLE'd onto the left hand side at the bottom 3 rows of loops. It's at least something in 5.56 that I can load in my vehicle with all the other stuff I'd bring in case I had to "bug out" and have something I can easily replenish the rounds for in case I run low on 7.62x39 mm and .308 Winchester. That's just my opinions and my admittedly bias for the AK/SKS and against the 5.56 mm. I tried to put some facts in there to mitigate the personal biases and opinions, but what I say ought to be taken with a grain of salt in the weapons and caliber debate. Hope this helped
@@cthulhu6697 I've been working on my Mini with spring changes, cutting the barrel, polishing the action, and trigger upgrades get it as reliable and accurate as my 67 year old SKS.
My next range shoot will tell the tale.
Magazines are not as big an issue as claimed by many.
It's usually the feed lips that need attention, and possibly better followers.
Metal magazines, even the cheap ones, work fine.
It just takes a little magic.
Right now, the SKS is my choice,
but the Mini will get there.
@@slideglide9418 I have a similar idea: buy an M1A and have a gunsmith buddy turn it into basically a SOCOM 16. You've got my trigger finger itching now, bro ;)
@@cthulhu6697 What makes the AR15, and Mini 14, is the ammunition.
The doctrine in the early days of the 5.56 x 45, which still hold true today, is a .22 cal bullet hauling ass has 3 main benefits.
1) Less weight to carry
2) More rounds per pound
3) Hydrostatic wound damage
Cutting down an M14 to make a SOCOM, may not help it's resale value and performance.
Thanks for the Replies.
@@slideglide9418 SKS no contest at all.
Ai ở việt Nam vào đây
Bought my sks 7-8 years ago for 200 bucks canadian!
I like my SKS!
Did you know Kalashnikov did not even know that the Stg 44 even existed, so stop saying he was inspired by it.
Right it was much more like the Garand, with it's rotating bolt.
@@denizen9998 thank you.
I may be the only person commenting on this. But. Who thought it was a good idea to put the sight leaf on the Sks's like that? Who thought that is how they should be, or are used?
When you do a video on western weapons, do you call them (for example) the capitalist m16?
I thought it was kinda funny when you showed a group of VS and the only gun I saw was an MP40. Also, your picture of the Taliban didn't have even one AK. Kind of a fail on this one. RESEARCH!!!!
Funny thing is that’s not even an MP40 bud, it’s an M3 Grease Gun. RESEARCH!!!!
Just because AK is reliable and come from USSR doesn't mean its evil
If you know a GI bring back sks the NV ones are rare. Star with 1 in it.
I got the sks in warzone
I have the sks. Ak. And the ar. But if shit hit the fan id grab my sks.
Was the German SG a better weapon than the AK or was it just super ahead of it's time? I've always heard that the SG was an amazing weapon, but the the West hates the AK. Is it propaganda, is truly not as good a weapon as it's predecessors, or a combo of all the above mentioned?
The Chinese model 56 was the Chinese version of the AK not the SKS. That was simply known as the Norinco SKS. I have seen it called the Norinco type 56 SKS but the actual type 56 is a AK47 clone
Actually, the Chinese AK and Chinese SKS are both called the Type 56. The SKS is referred to as the Type 56 Carbine, while the AK is, if I remember right, called the Type 56 Automatic rifle or something along those lines. Both were introduced into Chinese military service at the same time, in the year 1956, hence both being slapped with that particular moniker in question. Outside of Chinese military adoption, Norinco has churned out millions of both AKs and SKSs for the purpose of commercial export, so “Norinco Type 56” could still refer to either or. Long story short; one’s called a carbine, the other an automatic rifle. Silly and pedantic, I know, but hey, the more you know
@@geezy9644 do you know where the distinction 56 came from? I suppose it's the obvious one that the Chinese didn't duplicate them until 56 even though the SKS was manufactured by the Russians in 45 and the AK obviously in 47?
Also how does factory 26 fit in where the Russian tooling for the SKS purchased by the Chinese ended up.
I've owned one made on Chinese tooling with a pinned barrel and the fit is slightly different than the Russian models and currently own a factory 26 Norinco SKS with a threaded barrel and the fit is identical to the Russian models. Mine was purchased from a gunsmith and has a slicked up Russian trigger group. He said the only work done was to get rid of the trigger creep and no work was required for it to fit the Norinco F26 receiver.
The fully Chinese one I had was cooler cause it was used in the Vietnam war and had a ton of Chinese/Vietnamese? Characters/writing on it all over and was lighter that the one from F26 but getting aftermarket mags ect always too some filing and/or other adjustments. While everything just pops right in place on the F26 model made in 59 so I kept that one
Sorry for the pointless babble just like to share and learn any SKS I can
@@gerryfkno5499 Well, the Russians began producing the SKS in 1945 (Hence the name SKS-45. And likewise, with the Chinese copy, the “56” distinction comes from the year they began producing them; 1956), it was actually field tested in WW2 against the Germans on the Eastern Front in the last months of the war and was soon after adopted as the new standard issue for the Soviet military. Of course, the AK-47 was invented by Kalashnikov in 1947, and adopted as the new standard issue Soviet rifle in 1949, relegating the SKS out of frontline service (though it still saw service in that role for a cpl years as a stopgap before there were enough AKs to issue to every soldier in every unit), and afterwards they were used by Soviet police and border guards, and it being the Cold War, thousands were put away in warehouses, along with other mothballed equipment in case things got hot with the West. But anyways; after being completely phased out of frontline service by the Russians (early to mid 1950’s), they decided to gift either the rifles or the specs and tooling to make them to allied communist nations. In 1956, China got such a shipment from them, in fact the first Type 56 rifles produced were made with Russian parts and under the guidance of Russian engineers. China loved the SKS as it fit their military doctrine; traveling light and using a guerrilla style warfare. They also gave the Chinese the specs for the AK in the same year they gave them the SKS (The Russians were working on the AKM at the time, but didn’t complete it until 1959)
Now, the Russians used their AKs as a standard issue weapon, but the Chinese, even though they were making both the SKS and AK at the same time, generally only issued their AKs to NCOs and officers, in a similar way that the Americans did with their Thompson M1As in WW2. They treated it more as a submachine gun than as a rifle, used to provide covering fire for the SKSs, which would lay down single, well aimed shots at their targets.
At the moment I own 4 SKSs, one a Yugoslavian M59/66, and the other 3 are all Chinese Type 56, they were all made in the mid to late 1960’s, in the Jianshe Arsenal at Factory 26. I also own an original Type 56 AK, underfolding stock, made in 1967
@@geezy9644 thank. Great info and nice collection. All o can find around home are the Yugos and despite having a good reputation I was turned off by the weight and lack of a chrome lined barrel.
Kicking myself now of course, wish I would have bought every one I've ever seen the way prices shot up when Obama was threatening to ban so called"assault weapons"
I'd be rich!! Lol Even though the SKS slips through a lot of those bans because of the standard 10rd fixed mag they still quadrupled+ in price
Best gun out there for the money, or at least it used to be and was definitely the best $100 I've ever spent👍👍
NORINCO Was established as North Importing Company after 1971. Before this date there was model 56 Chinese SKS.
Great
Either AK 47 or SKS.
Yesssss best shit ever
The only reason why we went to Nam is to protect rubber tree plantations for corporations.
The Gulf of Tonkin never happened, it was a false flag incident.
What a number 2 enclosed in a triangle means?
Norinco
Freedooommm!!!
My sks weighs half as much as my gfs Ak. I'd probably take the SKS if SHTF, plus it's got a built in pokey bit.
Sure an SKS is great, but, a rifle with a detachable magazine is better. That is if you are Canadian, I understand, best rifle you can take. If you are, how I wish you guys were allowed to have an AKs and ARs.
@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 I'm an American born and raised, good sir. But I am building an Ar. But I'm just saying, if shit hits the fan now im just gonna load up my plate carrier with stripper clips and grab my Sks. You can get pretty quick at them. But I agree, a detachable magazine is better. But I hope to be shooting at more deer than ppl at the end of the world tho.
@@peterpontzer4006 I got yeah, and I'm with you on that.
Not black market ,us government only allow AK to reach taliban, forgot ?
Vietnam call sks is ckc rifle. CKC is a russian writing
I know that I'm the only person who wants a sks in 5.45×39.
+Doc Hammer The Russian 5.45x39 mm is superior to our 5.56, especially with the M855 green tip rounds we use now, that's a given. I would buy a 5.45 SKS, but the cost of 5.45 ammo would relegate it to occasional shooting ( thanks, Obama ). If societal collapse happened and the 5.45 was your only rifle, I can see you avoiding a potential gun fight even more than what the wise and prudent survivor/prepper would in the same situations. In a SHTF/WROL scenario, you would have a much harder time finding ammo to replenish your stocks as compared to 7.62x39 mm, 5.56, .308 Winchester, 30-06, even .300 Win Mag ( my personal favorite long range sniper round in 180 grain loads ), 30-30 Winchester, and .30 U.S. M1 Carbine ( a very under-rated caliber and gun, it would be a great, light, easy handling carbine that would be just about ideal for things like scouting, hit and run, run and gun, and many varied roles. It's 110 grain military loading is about like shooting someone with a .357 Magnum with the greater accuracy, bigger sight radius, more velocity, higher round count, and various advantages of a carbine above a pistol)
Team Vietnam
Not Việt Nam war. It was a battle of Vietnamese against American aggression and local henchmen to liberate Vietnam.
Are you sure that wasn't The Chinese and Soviet war of aggression using their NVA puppets to subjugate the South Vietnamese people?
Short lived my ass the sks and AK is still used today
Technically those afks were made by China
Pronounced Ka lash ni kov not Kalishnakoff