Nah some of y’all don’t understand, Casetti had Headstrong meaning he had a flat 50% damage reduction to all damage done to him. All the damage Huntcliff was doing was cut in HALF.
limbus's damage calculations are pretty wonky, most percentage-based modifiers are additive, not multiplicative. so dealing fatal damage (2x) to a headstrong enemy results not in 100% damage, but in 200%-50%=150% damage
@@f4ust-wn If a certain "Detailed Combat Breakdown" Reddit post from near the game's release still holds true, then the calculation is something like (resistances + defense level modifier) * (crit multiplier) * (other damage modifier + other damage modifier) So, every damage modifier stacks additively with each other, but that result is then multiplied with resistances and crit damage.
Foxcliff’s puddle stomp: negative coin gloom blunt attack with natural damage of 60 with final power conditionals (only has +3 offense level and has to spend the resource he uses to lower his sp to get 20% damage on a single coin) Huntcliff’s lament, mourn, and despair: negative coin gloom blunt attack with natural damage of 70 with final power conditionals (has +5 offense level, not to mention the MINIMUM 45% damage boost on both coins from gaining 2 coffin, being on Dullahan, and being lower than 45 SP, which are all guaranteed by just using this skill) PJM does NOT want people using Foxcliff ever again
Peakcliff not only powercrept in terms of damage, but every other aspect of the game as well! Biggest number of unique stage voice lines, variations of the uptie story and voice lines depending on if you finished canto 6 or not, a unique counter from a whole nother game, and don't forget the powercreep in terms of design and animations lol
Just to clarify, the new clash animations apply to everyone. But yeah, Project Moon put their heart and soul into this ID in every way possible to make the players happy and I'm all for it!
@@silxer3154 I know about the new clashing animations, I meant the skill animations (I also think that his S3 has a special clash finisher where there's an animation of him smacking the opponent with the coffin)
Cassetti: have more hp, can roll high dice, very durable, healing by damaging enemy and buffing offensive and defense Wild heathcliff: *Binds overclocked* + *Lament, Mourn, and Despair*
It’s more like using an ID doesn’t make you a 1:1 copy of the original. The higher the uptie, the closer you get but never 100% identical. This is probably the reason some IDs can get stronger than their original(Like Yuri’s despite her being a grade 9? fixer) and others weaker. Though personally it feels like the Villain IDs are stronger than their originals, which sorta makes sense seeing as we’re the ones who defeated them, why would we be weaker?
@@justanotherviewer9643I mean the Sinners usually win by just wearing their enemy down lol Dante being able to bring them back, over and over again, lets them hit above their paygrade; But we see how there's a limit to that, when they fought Ricardo who far outclasses them. Realistically, all the villains we have fought are prolly stronger than the Sinners (Minus Don ofc).
edit: oooh so thats why sasha gets folded like wet cardboard with 600hp on floor 5 got it leaving original comment below to give context to reply it’s not a bug. enemies just get replaced by more enemies. some people thought 6-41 was bugged before vergilius arrived so i get why you confused :shrug:
@@FireBlaze-kk1lsno, you misunderstood. OP is talking about the bug that enemy reinforcements in MD are currently not buffed like normal enemies are, making them incredibly weak. Whereas the first wave of enemies has sky high clash values and is tanky, reinforcements roll standard warp event numbers (10 to 18) in a clash and die near instantly. Cassetti is unaffected by this because he is spawned in a new wave, but reinforcement enemies like Sasha are an absolute joke in MD currently.
What id’s go well with him. Just tryna see what I should go for cuz I’m a beginner. Only got ring sang li (beginner banner), Wild hunt heathcliff (crafted) and I’ve got wuthering heights butler Faust
Just about anything with sinking. The more sinking count, the better. Therefore, Linton Gregor, Wuthering Heights Outis, and Molar Boatworks Ishmael are ideal.
standard sinking team is good with him, dieci rodion, spicesang, butler outis, dieci honglu etc. Butler faust is a good budget option, Rodion's Rime Shank is an strong ego to take with sinking
As others said, Sinking is best. However, while you'll lose out on a pretty high amount of extra damage and clashing, he is still a powerhouse that gains lots of damage up, speed and aoe while also unstaggering himself reliably if you don't use a sinking team. On top of that, his spammable alternate S3 works just fine outside of sinking teams, with little power lost. So you can just put him in any non-sinking team you like if you wanna use him, and he should show at least okay or even good performance compared to other 000's.
That's not cool at all. Early railway bosses had huge health and lots of protection because of IDs like R Cliff and W don. Now because of Erlkliff canto 7 bosses will have 10k health with 9 protection.
No, he doesn't clash anything unclashable in this video, and I haven't been able to make him clash the counter against Cassetti's unclashable myself. I think it was also said in the patchnotes that clashable counters cannot clash with unclashable attacks and turn into standard counters or something (and Cassetti ends the turn, preventing retaliation).
![[Limbus Company]Erlking vs Wuthering Heights](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nnqGY1RdlW4/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Limbus Company] The King's Unmatched Strength](/img/n.gif)
Thats a nice 2500+ hp pool you have there, unfortunately [Lament, Mourn, and Despair]
Lament, Mourn, and Despair is just the other way of saying Dread, Despair, and Hate if you think about it
@@Meowsamuraiwhy hate? We're applying it to Casseti, so shouldn't it be fear?
@@MeowsamuraiI can't look at all three words of Dread, Despair and Hate in that order without thinking about Warframe.
@@Nather157 The bow, the kunais and the scythe lol
Casually having a final boss on our team is deeply hilarious to me
Showing pathetti where vampires belong, in a casket
I love the name "Pathetti." It describes the old crone so well.
D:
A ghoul.
What about the gremlin. you can't just say that when gremlin exists...,......
Beat Casetti into Spaghetti and put him in a Casketti
Man so angry he refuses to clash and proceed to otk the bloodfiend
My guy really just said “TODAY. YOU DIE TODAY.”
"so i went to this warp trai-"
*"🌩️⚡DISAPPEAR WITH THE STORM!! ⚡🌩️"*
lamentpulled mourncel on his despairmaxxing streak
Hes not gonna sugarcoat it
LAMENT + MOURN + DESPAIR
Mfs will see this and go "yeah he's pretty underwhelming"
Yeah he's pretty underwhelming
Afirmative, the character is indeed below expectations.
@@gnowster1897 Skill issue
@@gnowster1897 the anything below here are his enemies
I wish his horse s3 sanity reduction is actually on combat start rather than on use. It just makes his unable to clash at maximum potential
I like how casseti tries so hard to have a cool intro but huntcliff doesn’t even bother to turn around to see it
man you really wanted Cassetti in that coffin
Confetti
Cassetti looked tired, so Heathcliff sent him to the forever box, same day shipping.
He already died once, and you shouldn’t have to kill something twice.
Literally Dio
Killing Cassetti in *THREE MOVES* is absolutely ridiculous.
His S4 is absolute nuts. Even outside of md it can deal 400+ damage to normal enemy with one of the coin rolling heads if the enemy is staggered
@@hello.9958Raise stagger threshold based on 30% of damage dealt 😂😂😂😂
@@shremp69 isnt it just basically insta stagger enemy 🤣🤣
Nah some of y’all don’t understand, Casetti had Headstrong meaning he had a flat 50% damage reduction to all damage done to him.
All the damage Huntcliff was doing was cut in HALF.
limbus's damage calculations are pretty wonky, most percentage-based modifiers are additive, not multiplicative. so dealing fatal damage (2x) to a headstrong enemy results not in 100% damage, but in 200%-50%=150% damage
@@f4ust-wn If a certain "Detailed Combat Breakdown" Reddit post from near the game's release still holds true, then the calculation is something like (resistances + defense level modifier) * (crit multiplier) * (other damage modifier + other damage modifier)
So, every damage modifier stacks additively with each other, but that result is then multiplied with resistances and crit damage.
WHUH
Foxcliff’s puddle stomp: negative coin gloom blunt attack with natural damage of 60 with final power conditionals (only has +3 offense level and has to spend the resource he uses to lower his sp to get 20% damage on a single coin)
Huntcliff’s lament, mourn, and despair: negative coin gloom blunt attack with natural damage of 70 with final power conditionals (has +5 offense level, not to mention the MINIMUM 45% damage boost on both coins from gaining 2 coffin, being on Dullahan, and being lower than 45 SP, which are all guaranteed by just using this skill)
PJM does NOT want people using Foxcliff ever again
B-but it on his skill 2. MEANWHILE THIS DUDE HAS IT ON HIS COUNTER AND FUCKING CLASHES WITH IT TOO
even if hitting all heads, lament mourn and despair still deals heavy damage, which says alot about Huntcliff and the potential man
Lament Mourn Despair is basically just Wildcliff's way of saying Cope Seethe Mald
Potential srimp showed his skills.
This truly was a limbus company
4 ATK weight go brrrr
With the iron maiden, he can stake a vampire 50 times in one go
What is wrong with you?
Why would you even suggest that?
That might as well be a war crime.
Wait a second, you did THAT much damage... AND THEY HAD HEADSTRONG????
I can't believe erkling decided to set his sights on cassetti to grow his army
Peakcliff not only powercrept in terms of damage, but every other aspect of the game as well! Biggest number of unique stage voice lines, variations of the uptie story and voice lines depending on if you finished canto 6 or not, a unique counter from a whole nother game, and don't forget the powercreep in terms of design and animations lol
Just to clarify, the new clash animations apply to everyone.
But yeah, Project Moon put their heart and soul into this ID in every way possible to make the players happy and I'm all for it!
@@silxer3154 I know about the new clashing animations, I meant the skill animations (I also think that his S3 has a special clash finisher where there's an animation of him smacking the opponent with the coffin)
@@zapp5er284 He smashes enemies with coffin if they are too big to fit inside. As example abnormalities and alliance machines
@@sysanim Thx for the info
@@sysanim and summons thunderstorm on them 👍
"it sure is nice being a high bloodfiend on a warp express"
"Hi casseti"
*1250 damage lament, mourn and despair*
YOU'RE GOING INTO THE FUCKING COFFIN
Can Mourn, Lament, Despair outclash MY HAIR COUPOOOOOOOOOONS?
Can those two out clash To Claims Their Bones?
Powercreep Company
This is the mf I have to look forward to fighting in Canto 6???
Oh HELL nah.
King in Binds theme...
Cassetti: have more hp, can roll high dice, very durable, healing by damaging enemy and buffing offensive and defense
Wild heathcliff: *Binds overclocked* + *Lament, Mourn, and Despair*
Goddamn i just love his animations so much
1:29 Peak transition
A weapon to surpass Rabbit Heathcliff.
"Oh no, a big rolling skill!!!! Anyways, go my Lament, Mourn, Despair."
Power creep mfs when Solemn Lament walk in the next month(it’s going to have 8 coins rolling 50)
it did, in fact, have 8 coins rolling 50.
@@SylvisNuvara correction, it has 8 coins rolling a 77 (I believe)
@@SylvisNuvara edgar greg surely crazy huh,from a "eh its gud atleast" id to "holy sht his broken now" id
That thumbnail is fantastic
P.E.A.K A-RESONANCE WITH THIS ONEEEE
Let's just remember IDs only have fraction of the real deal's powers, yeh?
*cut to Wild Hunt easily soloing both the Erlking and Every Catherine*
Are you sure about that, bruv?
It’s more like using an ID doesn’t make you a 1:1 copy of the original. The higher the uptie, the closer you get but never 100% identical. This is probably the reason some IDs can get stronger than their original(Like Yuri’s despite her being a grade 9? fixer) and others weaker. Though personally it feels like the Villain IDs are stronger than their originals, which sorta makes sense seeing as we’re the ones who defeated them, why would we be weaker?
@@justanotherviewer9643I mean the Sinners usually win by just wearing their enemy down lol
Dante being able to bring them back, over and over again, lets them hit above their paygrade; But we see how there's a limit to that, when they fought Ricardo who far outclasses them.
Realistically, all the villains we have fought are prolly stronger than the Sinners (Minus Don ofc).
@@boxtupos7718 Well soloing them is possible, sometimes even without E.G.O or MD.
truly distortion approved
Hehehehahahah
Hahahahwhhehehqhah
atomic crybaby kills freaky vampire because he can 2024
cassetti feeds on blood, heathcliff feeds on pure iron in the form of coffins
Every single W.H HeathCliff video makes me regret getting Fluid Sack Faust
it was silly to get an EGO that will never dissapear now
Nclair + Peak Wildclift about to land Heads:
Castraveti when you show him a coffin:
this was a true quick suppression
nuclear sad man
How it feels to fight 6-48 erkling heathcliff with a severly underleveled team
I am the prince of the para-
*DISAPPEAR IN THE STORM!!!*
Total: 2791
[Victory]
I am curious, is it a known bug that all reinforcements on the Warp floor come whithout the proper levels? I just found about it myself today
edit: oooh so thats why sasha gets folded like wet cardboard with 600hp on floor 5 got it
leaving original comment below to give context to reply
it’s not a bug. enemies just get replaced by more enemies.
some people thought 6-41 was bugged before vergilius arrived so i get why you confused :shrug:
@@FireBlaze-kk1lsno, you misunderstood. OP is talking about the bug that enemy reinforcements in MD are currently not buffed like normal enemies are, making them incredibly weak. Whereas the first wave of enemies has sky high clash values and is tanky, reinforcements roll standard warp event numbers (10 to 18) in a clash and die near instantly.
Cassetti is unaffected by this because he is spawned in a new wave, but reinforcement enemies like Sasha are an absolute joke in MD currently.
@@FireBlaze-kk1lsread again
Dude, I didn’t knew I got such a machine of destruction. I’m still on that bull because I literally have all of my IDs on lvl 22 or lover
Get into the coffin, Dantehhh.
Cassetti Vs. A giant slab of concrete
What id’s go well with him. Just tryna see what I should go for cuz I’m a beginner. Only got ring sang li (beginner banner), Wild hunt heathcliff (crafted) and I’ve got wuthering heights butler Faust
Just about anything with sinking. The more sinking count, the better. Therefore, Linton Gregor, Wuthering Heights Outis, and Molar Boatworks Ishmael are ideal.
standard sinking team is good with him, dieci rodion, spicesang, butler outis, dieci honglu etc.
Butler faust is a good budget option,
Rodion's Rime Shank is an strong ego to take with sinking
@@technicaldevil433why not Edgar Gregor?
As others said, Sinking is best. However, while you'll lose out on a pretty high amount of extra damage and clashing, he is still a powerhouse that gains lots of damage up, speed and aoe while also unstaggering himself reliably if you don't use a sinking team.
On top of that, his spammable alternate S3 works just fine outside of sinking teams, with little power lost. So you can just put him in any non-sinking team you like if you wanna use him, and he should show at least okay or even good performance compared to other 000's.
He is your typical sinkng guy
"Umm excuse me Project moon *snaps fingers* this ID is underwhelming could you buff it that it can one shot using his skill 1"
I Love bullying Cassetti using this
He dealt 25000 damage on my first ritornello run using him (I have never used a sinking team)
That's not cool at all. Early railway bosses had huge health and lots of protection because of IDs like R Cliff and W don. Now because of Erlkliff canto 7 bosses will have 10k health with 9 protection.
If you do a solo of the new Walpurgis Ryoshu ID, use Icey OST - A Dance With Jack, for no reason in particular :)
bro can't even nihil
he can clashing unclashable. thays pretty interesting
No, he doesn't clash anything unclashable in this video, and I haven't been able to make him clash the counter against Cassetti's unclashable myself.
I think it was also said in the patchnotes that clashable counters cannot clash with unclashable attacks and turn into standard counters or something (and Cassetti ends the turn, preventing retaliation).
Smartest hellatze moment
4810 poise what
MY GOD
Jesus Christ
Jesus
Christ
do you think you can solo Ricardo whit wild hunt
Guys how do i solo heathcliff
0:28 how did you lose 50sp in his 3rd skill
rag
@@Goodbyeworld222 ohh tysm fir reply
@@rasto5312 ok
And he recover 50 sp back after that due to his S4 after attack effect which is recover 2 sp for every missing sp when under 0 sp(capped at 50)
@@hello.9958 if you use hong lu and yi sang support he could start with 45 sp next turn lol
WHUH
how do you go from 30 sanity to -35 in one attack...
horse
0:30 How did he lose so much sanity here? -50 sanity?
Max upgrade rags
@@fault2172rags always reduces sp to -15 I think)? That with LMD puts him at -30, the upgrades are only dmg
@@Marto-kh6sm and its also pay you back with sp heal.ngl rags is the mvp for wild hunt heath user
@@shadowrider6578 yeah he's a completely different character in MD with rags
@@Marto-kh6sm truly a potential man
So what's the team comp?
Why does Lament, Mourn, Despsapair some times drain 60sp? Got it in some mirror dungeons and sometimes not
rags.
@@ExplodingVolcano777 Ty never noticed
How is your base power for nearly every roll so high? What gift is that?
-50% DAMAGE TAKEN?!? ARE YOU FUCKING SURE????
LAMENT!!!!!
I mean that’s cool and all, but does he have quick suppression?
Well he suppressed Cassetti quickly for sure
can some bless soul tell the name of the theme is playing???
Vovete Miserias, also known as King in Binds theme
did he just do 1.2k dmg...
with -50% damage reduction.
How is huntcliff level 100?
Question, what's the music I'm hearing?
Theme for Refraction Railway 4's final boss, specifically the second phase
It's awesome how the two best Heathcliff IDs both have a blunt gloom skill.
Mfs dont know what ramp up character means
How does he stay at -30 sp when using s4? What ego gift is it?
Rags
@@gregorex4539 Thank you