I've read the so called Expropriation bill , it doest not give directive as to how it's provisions are going to be implemented. It merely grants permission to the state to expropriate land that is not used for public purposes, and the bill is also silent on the important issue of compensation. My view is that , it must be sent back to parliament for rectification and amendments.
I'm white ... and LandLESS. In fact, my whole family is white and LandLESS. My husband is UNEMPLOYED, some of my friends are UNEMPLOYED, my mother is UNEMPLOYED. We cant relocate to another country without getting a degree and job and applying for work permits. Most landowners are farmers, who is going to farm if the land becomes the State's? Are we only going to import food? That will mean it will be more expensive a 15 Rand bread will become R30/40
Finding one white family that isn't doing as well as others does not mean apartheid did not disenfranchise black South Africans. There was a systemic and racial system that favoured whites over blacks. And as a result, most of the best land is in the hands of the whites, and this is what needs to be addressed. It's as basic as that
@trevormpta4504 You people disenfranchise each other on a daily basis through means of incompetence, corruption, violence, rape and murder. The white man can't be blamed for everything. Look what your brothers have done to Rhodesia.
Try not to look at this scenario from a personal point of view. You might personally be landless, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of land in this country is owned by white individuals and entities.
Wait... wasn't EFF asking for expropiation without compensation? When is EFF going to stop complaining and start working? What has EFF done in the last 5-10 years besides complain and strike?
@@wisemandivasi3990...there are people who vote for the EFF because of the land thing Now it's going to lose votes ...the EFF is trying by all means to be relevant, they're not stupid...they can see that they are going down 🤷♀️
@@Onella-mv1hceff is for land expropriation without compensation and everyone knows that. This is not land expropriation without competition perhaps you need to read what that means.
@@LawandPoliticz 🙌...this is Land Expropriation Bill A bill that will be implemented...ANC also stands for land expropriation without compensation...no DA will ever change that. You do what you think I need...
How is it that these people never learn from their mistakes They just have to look at Zimbabwe to see how it worked out for them. One of the poorest countries in Africa. The EFF and Ramaphosa do not care for the countries people. Corruption, the Electrical grid in not working, they wanted to add a water subsidy to each user only to get money but do not care to adress the bottom line ie bad governance. The SABC, the steel industry, SAL , railroad system etc are in shambles. What are they thinking. What have they done to the land that was taken from whites since 1994?
What exactly is going on with these land exploration bill? Both EFF and the da are opposed to it, no doubt that they're doing so for different and opposite reasons. 🤔
It may be cosmetic changes, but some have the ability to learn + some are slow learners. This is much bigger than messing up the budget of a prov, metro or the municiplsality of a 1 horse town. Political parties with some savvy know they can drown themselves, the country + even the entire subcontinent before kick off. Eff should come clean before they demand - how many ha's, industries left etc earmarked for their cherished friends the illegals, if they were to expropriate?
The Eff want expropriation of land without compensation not nill compensation even ATM and MKp rejected it. There was a commety from parliament went to do public consultations that says (expropriation of land without compensation )people agreed in those consultations then when it comes back to parliament so that it will be voted on,the ANC added nill that's where the problem is.
The concerns you're raising about the South African government's reliability and potential consequences of the Land Expropriation Act are valid and shared by many. The government's track record of corruption and loss of public trust does little to alleviate fears of a Zimbabwe-style collapse. Historical precedents, such as the apartheid regime's forced removals and land expropriation, have led to widespread suffering and social unrest ¹. The current government's handling of the land issue has sparked fears of a similar catastrophe. The potential consequences of the Land Expropriation Act are far-reaching and devastating. Economic instability, food insecurity, and social chaos are all possible outcomes. The government's assurances of responsible implementation ring hollow, given its history of corruption and mismanagement. Civil war is a dire prediction, but it's not entirely unfounded. The toxic mix of economic inequality, social injustice, and government corruption can create a volatile environment conducive to conflict. It's essential for South Africans to remain vigilant and demand accountability from their government. The international community must also keep a watchful eye on developments in South Africa, offering support and guidance to help mitigate the risks associated with the Land Expropriation Act.ai
3:20 The people of South Africa voted against the EFFs land expropriation without compensation according, Eff votes declined but they're still singing the same song. Expropriation without compensation in south Africa will not work because that will collapse our economy and South Africa will look like Zimbabwe within a very short space of time. Just imagine government expropriating the land that i bought without compensation, Julius wa gafa.
I'm an EFF supporter bt this guy doesn't know how to answer questions, he lacks clarity n simplicity in answering questions..He should hv simplify said :we need expropriatiation without compensation "
You all sound the same. Why are your people so kak? Your people are retreating from your own people because they lie, are prone to corruption, are prone to patronage. You are unable to govern
Expropriation without compensation is the only justifiable way to redress the past injustices. Ofcourse ehite people are celebrating this. Ramaphosa is a sellout.
So, who exactly is qualified to sit on a high horse and claim their's was a worthy enough contribution to the polity, given the generally parlous state of our common folk in SA? The ANC?
Whites didn’t do this, everything was functioning fine until 94’ blacks don’t vote outside of your racist views because you very well know whites want our land back… it’s utter spite and we are now coming.
The quality of journalism this lady presents, the undying commitment to her craft is on another level.
It's such a pity that this EFF representative was just an empty vessel making a lot of noise and very little substance.
"Leaders" like that is why SA is done
You both missed a whole point just like that ,section 25 review
Ramaphosa is busy selling the land to Arabs nothing left😅😅😅
Not Arabs...the Chines are taking over Africa
The Chinese and the Russians you idiot. The ANC can exproptiate property and land and hand it over to their Russian and Chinese masters free ov charge
And he is coming here in Saudi Arabia soon.
He will sell to the Kings because they are wealthy...
I couldn't agree more!!!
No the whiteys stole it a long time ago
I've read the so called Expropriation bill , it doest not give directive as to how it's provisions are going to be implemented. It merely grants permission to the state to expropriate land that is not used for public purposes, and the bill is also silent on the important issue of compensation.
My view is that , it must be sent back to parliament for rectification and amendments.
The EFF is a great example why the educational standards had to drop in South Africa ☝️
😂😂😂😂
Been monitoring the EFF interviews with the media lately. Shem, the intellectual capacity and "superior knowledge" of EFF is gone.
@@captain_data Thanks for following and listening.
Lol it's okay if you don't understand, rather educate yourself.
Some comments are really results to show how stupid some people may be...😂😂😂😂😂 better be quiet and stop embarrassing yourself
@@siyabongamazibuko7368 says the blind man😂😂😂
You knew first of what is intellectual is because of EFF. Show me any party in SA that carries the same intellectualism.
Yasas if if the EFF think its bullshit then you know its kak😅
🤣good one
Exactly ❤❤
😂😂😂
I'm white ... and LandLESS. In fact, my whole family is white and LandLESS. My husband is UNEMPLOYED, some of my friends are UNEMPLOYED, my mother is UNEMPLOYED. We cant relocate to another country without getting a degree and job and applying for work permits. Most landowners are farmers, who is going to farm if the land becomes the State's? Are we only going to import food? That will mean it will be more expensive a 15 Rand bread will become R30/40
Are you trying to say only white people can farm?
Really, are you that naive?
Finding one white family that isn't doing as well as others does not mean apartheid did not disenfranchise black South Africans. There was a systemic and racial system that favoured whites over blacks. And as a result, most of the best land is in the hands of the whites, and this is what needs to be addressed. It's as basic as that
@trevormpta4504 You people disenfranchise each other on a daily basis through means of incompetence, corruption, violence, rape and murder. The white man can't be blamed for everything. Look what your brothers have done to Rhodesia.
You are a South African white person but you are poor? Let me tell you this, you are STUPID
Try not to look at this scenario from a personal point of view. You might personally be landless, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of land in this country is owned by white individuals and entities.
I'm really getting confused by this Eff now
Those people are the sellout are there once who de stroy our country
😂😂😂
The shampoo warriors are loosing their minds again...
What a liar. Spreading false history.
We can't be told by you our history...false history is what White's tell us.
lol we don’t like it because it wasn’t us that could take credit for signing it😂
Wait... wasn't EFF asking for expropiation without compensation?
When is EFF going to stop complaining and start working?
What has EFF done in the last 5-10 years besides complain and strike?
What can they do?
The land that the ANC and it's ministers own should be up for grabs also!
I don't know what EFF want because they talk about this bill before but now they oppose the signing of it as a law
setion25
Maybe someone sponsor them from europe
@@CebisileMchithakali-pd7fh dude understand this interview, the wait here is in the section 25 dont be stupid
Eff has Been talking about expropriation of land WITHOUT COMPENSATION...this one differs way far in content..learn to read between the lines
The EFF wanted the amendment of section 25, not this watered down version of expropriation of land without compensation.
I thought EFF was advocating for this 🤔 did I miss something?
U must read as u called urself clever black than others
There's no content in your response, be civilized reread my question and answer if you have an answer if you are empty keep quiet
@@wisemandivasi3990...there are people who vote for the EFF because of the land thing
Now it's going to lose votes ...the EFF is trying by all means to be relevant, they're not stupid...they can see that they are going down 🤷♀️
@@Onella-mv1hceff is for land expropriation without compensation and everyone knows that. This is not land expropriation without competition perhaps you need to read what that means.
@@LawandPoliticz 🙌...this is Land Expropriation Bill
A bill that will be implemented...ANC also stands for land expropriation without compensation...no DA will ever change that.
You do what you think I need...
How is it that these people never learn from their mistakes They just have to look at Zimbabwe to see how it worked out for them. One of the poorest countries in Africa. The EFF and Ramaphosa do not care for the countries people. Corruption, the Electrical grid in not working, they wanted to add a water subsidy to each user only to get money but do not care to adress the bottom line ie bad governance. The SABC, the steel industry, SAL , railroad system etc are in shambles. What are they thinking. What have they done to the land that was taken from whites since 1994?
What exactly is going on with these land exploration bill? Both EFF and the da are opposed to it, no doubt that they're doing so for different and opposite reasons. 🤔
What would you want to see . Stop making long sentences that are meaningless .
A party in decline...
Poor anc... 😢
@@GodfadaEFFGood response 😂😂
Nobody cares about their view
I voted for eff I care ...and those who voted eff they care too..
It may be cosmetic changes, but some have the ability to learn + some are slow learners. This is much bigger than messing up the budget of a prov, metro or the municiplsality of a 1 horse town. Political parties with some savvy know they can drown themselves, the country + even the entire subcontinent before kick off.
Eff should come clean before they demand - how many ha's, industries left etc earmarked for their cherished friends the illegals, if they were to expropriate?
The Eff want expropriation of land without compensation not nill compensation even ATM and MKp rejected it. There was a commety from parliament went to do public consultations that says (expropriation of land without compensation )people agreed in those consultations then when it comes back to parliament so that it will be voted on,the ANC added nill that's where the problem is.
The concerns you're raising about the South African government's reliability and potential consequences of the Land Expropriation Act are valid and shared by many. The government's track record of corruption and loss of public trust does little to alleviate fears of a Zimbabwe-style collapse.
Historical precedents, such as the apartheid regime's forced removals and land expropriation, have led to widespread suffering and social unrest ¹. The current government's handling of the land issue has sparked fears of a similar catastrophe.
The potential consequences of the Land Expropriation Act are far-reaching and devastating. Economic instability, food insecurity, and social chaos are all possible outcomes. The government's assurances of responsible implementation ring hollow, given its history of corruption and mismanagement.
Civil war is a dire prediction, but it's not entirely unfounded. The toxic mix of economic inequality, social injustice, and government corruption can create a volatile environment conducive to conflict.
It's essential for South Africans to remain vigilant and demand accountability from their government. The international community must also keep a watchful eye on developments in South Africa, offering support and guidance to help mitigate the risks associated with the Land Expropriation Act.ai
3:20 The people of South Africa voted against the EFFs land expropriation without compensation according, Eff votes declined but they're still singing the same song. Expropriation without compensation in south Africa will not work because that will collapse our economy and South Africa will look like Zimbabwe within a very short space of time. Just imagine government expropriating the land that i bought without compensation, Julius wa gafa.
No what do you really want eff?
Expropiation WITHOUT compensation.
The ammendment of Section 25(2)(b).
Do you know what you want...
@@MotlokwaThwii Why dont you take it what is stopping you ?
@@dumisaninxumalo5245 uyislima or uyazenzisa...government has that power not eff,anc is afraid of white people like you asking stupid questions here.
thank you mr madiase for that " clearheaded superior logic"
I'm an EFF supporter bt this guy doesn't know how to answer questions, he lacks clarity n simplicity in answering questions..He should hv simplify said :we need expropriatiation without compensation "
Defend, Rebuild and Advance...
You all sound the same. Why are your people so kak? Your people are retreating from your own people because they lie, are prone to corruption, are prone to patronage. You are unable to govern
You don't anything about farming. You will again be dependent on white people for food importation
Niks in daai koppe nie
😂😅😅😅😂😂😅
Expropriation without compensation is the only justifiable way to redress the past injustices. Ofcourse ehite people are celebrating this. Ramaphosa is a sellout.
No , it's not.
A great blunder!
...ja the wind is in the thorntrees!
This is the 1994 bill that failed.
1994 was a massive mistake
EFF thieves 😂
See how he doesn't answer 😂
See how you don't listen...
What happened with EFF they against this expropriation of lang EFF they are the heedless chicken
False history 😂
What is yours... land thief
Hey if the EFF is opposing this maybe there is hope...maybe
section 25 intirely expropriation without compensation , not nil compensation 😢 ksk man
Bafunani lamajita
Bafuna lomhlaba u productive, lo amabhulu athi xa ethanda agxothe i families who've been working and staying there for many generations.
Nyoso!
??? !!! All I heard was bourgeoisie and squabbling
Guy can't even communicate his disagreements bruh maybe you the one wasting our time
This man speaks no sense at all
Perhaps you should fight the Almighty Creator, as he owns ALL the land!
The jokers of red overalls failed dismally to contribute anything positive to SA politics they are a waste of time
So, who exactly is qualified to sit on a high horse and claim their's was a worthy enough contribution to the polity, given the generally parlous state of our common folk in SA? The ANC?
Whites didn’t do this, everything was functioning fine until 94’ blacks don’t vote outside of your racist views because you very well know whites want our land back… it’s utter spite and we are now coming.
This guy must retire
How far is you in this regard...
EFf you must win the election first before you make empty noise
Who won elections this time around?
All political parties have a voice in SA.
When was the last time you did that... 😂.
People war is coming in this country
No , it's not.
you think a people's land be taken and left with a bond still to pay will not lead to war?? You are dumber than I thought
@@eeveegg6onpc507 It has to happen first.
This bill is without teeth.
Why do you think that the EFF and MK is opposing it ?
This people who are talking here were in the ANC for many years opposing PAC for the return of the land
@@daniellekgoro989irony of ironies, indeed! MK & EFF
Kanti unjani uramaphosa?.... I don't think he is an African it's like he is a foreigner
Hebethuna...expropriation of land without compensation is what the EFF wants!! Kanti kwenzeka nton??
@vuyisilepontshi go and do research about what you commented on because you don't know it
This guy is totally lost. Actually he doesn't know what he wa...
They know want is coming there is going to be war in this country
Love my organization ❤❤❤ ,viva EFF
What did you hear in this interview?
Mobilize people to take land plz don't confuse us
Let's take the land en even die for as blacks, stop talking to much
Why don't you just buy the land like everybody else does ?
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub we've been asking white people for last 400 years 🙄
@Procaviacapensis-ts8ub buy it from who?
@@pauzamsiska3605 The owners.
There is a very healthy property market with 1000's of properties bought every day.
Didn't you notice ?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub are we still talking about the land issue?
Lost everything 😅
You certainly won everything 😅.
VIVA EFF🔴⚫️🟢✊🏾🕷️🔥🔥
haiibo...is this not what the EFF wants ??