You did everything excellently but I would add one thing as a help for others; Always be sure to use the transmission fluid on the new gasket on the pan to make sure the gasket seals around the edge instead of being dry against the metal surface. 10/10
I drained it 3 times in a row , with a little testdrive in between. I made it instead of a real flush , to get as much old oil out of the trans as possible.
@@rpons541 I certainly understand that it’s something that has to be done. Was just wondering what changing trans fluid has to do with changing diff fluid other than the service interval being the same.
Programming shouldn't be necessary, but shifting through the gears is. This will activate the valves and ensure everything has fluid flowing appropriately.
Nice job! I did the same on my wife’s X5 at 75k. What’s incredible is I have very similar setup and tools like you. And agree on recovering the next day from auto diy workout!
Great video, love the homemade tools and crocks! Yup, most of the transfluid remains in the lines and torque converter. Key is to change the pan, get 45% new fliud, then return in 20-30K and siphon out as much as you can and replace/refill to full. Wish I had the lift he used, I had to lift the car on to jack stands - not fun, probably more dangerous. I did use a pressurized/vacuum fluid extractor to remove and replace, made the whole process that much easier. And yes, do the transfer case fluid as well, same issue as the trans, you won't get all of it out. Don't forget the front and rear differentials. both are super easy to do in comparison.
I was stumped too when it took 2qts less as well. Also they make a contraption jut like the one you made at harbor freight for 7 dollars. Fits right on the fluid cans.
Consider using a true Allen key instead of socket to break the fill plug. Takes up less room. Use one that you can attach a small pipe to for addl leverage.
Just did this on my F90 M5 and was worried that I had extra fluid as well 😂 I feel like its low on fluid and my mind is making me hear things around the tranny. Good to see I wasn’t the only one with extra fluid.
If you want to get rid of the old fluid in the converter you can refill the pan then disconnect the return line from the cooler and run the engine just until, say, a litre has come out, then stop the engine and refill the pan again. Repeat until the fluid emerging is clean then reconnect the line and do the final fill. This does, of course depend on being able to get to a convenient coupling in the cooler return line.
That's good to know, and it makes me feel a bit better! I've put about 1000 miles on mine since the service with no issues, so I'm just going to assume it's fine.
@@yodersgarage Glad to hear. How did you pull up the transmission oil temp on the scanner? I have the same exact one (NT510 Elite) that shows the transmission oil temp under the Operating Variables page, which is accessed from the Data Manager option on the main menu and mine wouldn't budge from 13ºC
I remember it was a bit finicky, and I had to disconnect and reconnect a few times. Try clearing the car's info and run a fresh scan. It'll take a bit, but that should do it. Good luck!
@@JPDenali I have the same scanner also. I believe it is under DRIVE and then option 5 (transmission mgmt). Then select transmission oil temperature. Will get live data..
On mine I flush it completely thru the trans oil cooler. After emptying the transmission sump oil thru the plug I unplugged both entrance and exit oil links in the trans oil cooler radiator. Before I start the engine I plug a little 12 volts pump to push new oil in while the trans pump throw the old oil out. It is easy to know which one just turning the key and watch which one throw it out. To know exactly when it is done I throw in 12 quarts of ATF, the exact amount declared by Volkswagen and just wait for the exiting oil to change is color. Mine is the ZF6HP32A linked to the 313hp 5.0 V10 TDi Pump-Duse of the 2005 Volkswagen Phaeton.
This looks like how my job will go and many of us do it yourselfers. Surprisingly I just bought a Quickjack 5000tl and was curious how it would work with my F36 as I’m about to do this very job. I opted for a performance aluminum pan with a liter capacity upgrade so we’ll see how it goes. My car is pretty tuned so likely around 400hp if not more. Want the car and fluids to be good before hitting the drag strip. Good post
Pre fill, Once the car is started you should be immediately filling, then once filled, put plug in, take your to 40c then run through gears, then top it off, don’t wait for 40c for second full, transmission will be sucking on air as pan is empty
I hope I haave the same setup as you do so I can do it myself. But not for me, so I bought the FCP kit and took it to autoshop to repair. Same as yours, My car (640i) left 1L fluid unused. Good video!
My mechanic charges $540 for this service. After all the parts, tools, fluids, and time, this is one of those services that’s well worth paying to have done…especially if you don’t have a lift.
My dealer wanted $1200 a year or so ago to do this -after a $200 "discount". A local indy wanted $1100. Glad I did it myself for the price of the FCP Euro ZF kit: $249. Other than all the misc screws to remove underside panels and misc BMW style obstructions, it is really straight forward. The only difference is that you have to monitor the transmission oil temperature, however any decent DIY'er should already have a scan tool with this functionality. And if not, given the savings, it's well worth the add. Now that I've done it and got past the "fear factor", I look forward to doing it again in 30 - 50k Mike's. Oh, no lift. Used central jack points to quickly put on jack stands.
@@Miguel-h5j5cPride comes before a fall. Some men know when to leave it to the professionals and avoid a ruined transmission and $7000+ repair bill. But you go on being a tough guy. More braun than brains 😂
@@F32_Rocket the people always argue that they dont have time, that their time is so expensive and they prefer to pay. But the reality is that is very rare to find a good and honest mechanic. Always that Im going to make a service in my BMW, 4 months before the service. I check the OEM manual and specifications, i buy the necessary and best equipamient. At the end is better to be self sufficient, but is your decisión
Very good video and is a nice look at someone doing this for the first time at home. Good clear pics and nice that you pointed out the issues you ran across. Very, very helpful and thought provoking. I have the same scan tool. Great add to my tool box. Your dealers quote was fairly reasonable at $600. My dealer here in CT wants $1400. But was willing to give a $200 "discount". Indy wanted $1,100. At those prices going to do myself. Will also be using the FCP Euro kit. Question, how did the car drive afterwards?
Thanks for the comment! It has about 1000 miles on it since the service with zero issues. Take a look at the "Save $1200..." video and you'll see some high-throttle driving that took place in the last few days.
I picked up a large (500ml) syringe from ebay which I am going to use to fill mine. The hose I had lying around the garage. It has to be faster and easier than a hand soap dispenser.
Great video. Definitely wanna attempt to do this, but my 340i currently has 84,000 miles on it and I have no idea if the previous owner has done the transmission service. What would be the easiest way to check if my fluid isn’t too contaminated or too late to change it now?
If I don't know what the previous owner has done, I always assume nothing has been done. Even when they tell me something has been done I still don't assume it's been done correctly. Its much better to be safe than sorry when it come to your car's fluids, as replacing an engine or transmission is significantly more expensive than a few hundred dollars spent on servicing. With that said, one way you should be able to tell if the transmission has been opened is to look at the fill plug and see if there are marks inside the head indicating it has been removed previously. Aside from that there's no way to know the condition of the fluid/ innards without draining and replacing the fluid and filter pan, at least no way that would provide me peace of mind. Hope this helps, and good luck!
Quickjacks + pinch welds + glossy floor = death. I used the rubber blocks on pinchwelds with my Quickjacks and both jacks shot out the sides because the floor wasn't grippy enough to keep the blocks from deforming sideways. Your blocks look harder than the ones that came with mine and your floor looks less smooth than my concrete but please be careful. I almost died with a similar setup.
I've heard some horror stories, and appreciate your concern! The F30 does not get lifed from pinch welds. It has textured, flat plastic blocks integrated into the body specifically for lifting, which works much better. When I was working on my E30 a few years ago I had the same concern, and bought some slotted blocks meant to be used with pinch welds, and they worked great. I think you can get them directly from Quickjack or Amazon now for $30-ish. Stay safe!
I did the ATF change and now hear a slight whine on first gear when driving off after a stop. This happens when the car is warmed up, fluid level is correct I checked twice. Any advice?
Assuming you used the right fluid and did everything else correctly, are you sure it's the transmission? There are a lot of sounds that a car makes when you accelerate.
I used liquimoly that fcpeuro approved so I’m assuming it’s correct lol. No leaks, the fluid is full till it spills out at 40-50 C. It only makes the noise exactly at the tail end of 1st, can’t think of anything else that would make that noise. Its like a slight electric acceleration whine.
You have extra fluid left over because you drained the transmission rather than completely flushing it. Depending on the transmission, there is always fluid left in the cooler if equipped and torque converter. Completely normal. Flushing isn’t really recommended by many, maybe a myth but some claim flushing can damage the transmission. Good job!
Great video ..... I have a Foxwell NT650 Elite and can not figure out how to get into the operating varables to activate the transmission oil temp. Can you offer any help ? thank u
The 650 appears to be a bit different than the one I used, so I can't say for sure. I know the manual was useless for me, so I just went through each menu until I found it. I can't recall if it was in live data, control modules, or something else, but that's where I'd start.
I contacted Foxwell and the NT 650 does not have that function ..... They let me return the 650 and I purchased the NT510 Elite . Once it warms up I intend to do my daughters car 2016 328d and mine a 2014 328d ...... Once again very good video , simple and straight forward .
What would you recommend a GM transmission my 2010 328i xDrive that's what I have kind of glad I really don't have the ZF ZF can be yes very well indeed pretty fast responsive but it's less headache that I have to deal with cuz if one of the sensors go and gets complicated after that this is my first new used car oops actually my bag is my second one My first one was an '04 325xi I loved her until she died but now I have my Missy that's my car's name
Hey I had a question so I accidentally drained the transmission fluid because I’m a first time bmw owner and got it mixed up how much quarts should I buy if I just drained the drain bolt ? When I had the 5qt oil box it didn’t fill it up all the way
It depends on the car. You should be pretty close with 5, but it could easily take a few more. To make sure it's right you'll have to get a scan tool and check the fill level at the recommended temp with the car running. Unfortunately there's not a definite amount you'll need, it'll be specific to your car.
Great video. Shops in my area say that this is a 6.8h job with BMW shop asking $1700 for it! What is your opinion about the aluminum cover vs the normal plastic one?
I'm sure it's a nice upgrade if you want to spend a little extra, but I've had no issues with the original or replacement plastic plan. In my opinion there's no need unless you're putting your car through more than average stress on a regular basis.
yep ... I have around 2 2 litres left too ! 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ i believe the trans fluid cycles upfront towards the oil cooler to cool it - 2 litres stuck in the pioe work !!
Why not use the aluminum oem pans from M cars? They bolt right up however the plastic cover may not fit but it's also not used on the M car trans pans either.
I have a 2018 X1 coming up on 70k miles, 1 local shop said they don’t do it at this milage “cause they can slip gears after” is this true or not? Another shop said they can do it and bmw says lifetime oil. I know nothing lasts forever so I have doubts. Thanks!
I was being eager to remove my transmission and did a drain from the drain plug only. Have I messed up something? I noticed everyone removes the fill plug before the drain and I don’t have a clue why. Can you please elaborate??
Don't worry, you didn't mess anything up. Sometimes with this type of setup (typically on high mileage / highly corroded vehicles) the fill plug can get stuck in the transmission making it impossible to refill. Removing that plug first is just insurance that you'll be able to refill the transmission.
i'm curious did you measure how much oil you took out from the transmission? compared to how much you put in. i've seen some people measuring and tilting the car so they can put the exact same quantity back.
I didn't, but that seems to be the most popular question on here. If you're planning to do this service maybe you could see how much you get and share with with group!
How you will know if the drained oil has the correct quantity so you can put the exact same after that ? That's why you measure it after a while between the temp range and check if its the correct quantity.
@@yodersgarage i just changed mine today, i got 4.5 litres out, and i put the same amount inside. the kit i grought from ZF had 7 litres, so now i have 2.5 litres left. my transmision is 8HP45.
@@bogdananghel9480I got the same out on my 2014 428i 4.5 quarts when I did it a few years ago, I measured what I got out and put that exact back in no problems at all. I did a lot of highway driving and actually changed it at 130k miles and surprisingly it didn’t slip or ruin the transmission, made it much smoother. Now getting ready to do it to my 2015 435i next but at 60k
My 2015 328i In-line 4 drained out roughly 4.3 quarts and only 4 quarts back in. I am curious why BMW says I need 8 quarts based on my VIN# but the car only took 4 quarts.
If you don’t mind me asking, what lift system do you have? I’ve been thinking about getting something similar. Do you have any recommendations on brands and where to buy?
Mine is the Quickjack BL5000-SLX, and I highly recommend it! It breaks down in about 10 mins and hangs on the wall, and is significantly less sketchy than jack stands. I think there are some similar options out there from other manufacturers, but I've never had any issues with mine, so until I get a real 2 post lift I'm sticking with this one. Check out Costco and Home Depot (online). They both carry Quickjacks, and they go on sale for a few hundred dollars off a couple times per year.
Anyone changed the connector sleeve too? My genuine ZF kit came with the round sleeve which goes through the body of the gearbox for the main harness, just wondering if I should do it, or leave well alone and avoid potential disaster when it turns into one of these nightmare jobs!
I have 2016 BMW 528i xdrive with 98K miles, is it advisable to change transmission fluid at this high mileage. Dealer says, transmission fluid in BMW is life time and there is a possibility of slipping gears if we change transmission fluid. Please advise.
I suppose it's possible that gear slippage could happen if something is not done correctly. It seems odd that they are advising against a service that they make so much money from and often perform. It sounds more like they dont want to rather than actually advising against. I've been servicing my own vehicles my whole life, and have yet to see anything on a car that is a "lifetime" no-maintenemace item, especially fluids. I can't tell you what to do with your car, but I'd suggest doing a little more research and come to a conclusion you're comfortable with. I, personally, would much rather have the peace of mind that such an import part of my car is being serviced and kept in the best condition possible. Best of luck to you!
I asked ZF directly about this as mine has 145000 miles. He understands the concern but said the risk to transmission performance/longevity is bigger if the service is not done.
You did ok but while the engine was running to bring the oil temperature to 45/50 you should of run the transmission through the gears D N P and S manual, then go underneath while the car is running and continue to pump more fluid till it starts to spill like you did at the end.
They're QuickJacks that I bought from Costco, but they're available from other retailers too. I'm fairly certain you can buy directly from their website.
I used the Mobil1 Synthetic ATF about 6 weeks ago on a 2019 Acura MDX with a 9sp ZF trans and also on its SH-AWD rear differential. I did a 2x drain and fill and from first drive it’s operated as smoothly as normal. Almost 1,500mi on it thus far. I’m thinking of replacing the Valvoline Maxlife ATF on my mom’s Maserati Quattroporte ZF6HP maybe later this year or by next spring. Should be good 👍🏽
@@glennr9913 and ya know what? I too believed that. For a few years I used Maxlife, but it performed poorly in 540RAT’s testing citing the poor wear protection is probably due to ultra thin viscosity. Thin is generally good but engineers have gone out of hand with it. Anyway it’s been almost a year and Mobil1 is going in every single vehicle I come across whose owners want it. Acura MDX 9sp ZF FWD trans and its SH-AWD rear differential, Mercedes C250 722.9+ trans, my LX470, and my mom’s Maserati with 6HP ZF soon this spring! A-OK
I’m not harsh on Maxlife. I have NEVER had a problem with it. For a couple years I believed it was the magic bullet. But now the current bargain magic weapon is Mobil1 Synthetic ATF Multi Vehicle (silver bottle/black label). Just got a case from Amazon yesterday. It was $53.41 for 6qts!
There should be a class action lawsuit against BMW (& other manufacturers) for saying that the transmission fluid doesn’t get changed because that’s total crap (like my transmission). My 2009 BMW 1 series 128i convertible has transmission issues and only 116k miles. The previous owner never changed the fluid per BMW and now it shudders in 4th & 5th gears when I drive it in full automatic mode. If I manually shift it drives fine with no shudder. If there has been a schedule to change the fluid and the previous owner had it done this most likely wouldn’t be a problem. Now I’m screwed with a transmission that is not going to last very long. It’s a crime to not have a schedule to maintain it. I read up on this and found that there is no coolant flush, or trans flush, or diff flush or fuel filter that is scheduled by BMW. That’s criminal on the part of BMW. No wonder BMWs have so many issues. I’m sick of auto makers misinforming customers on these maintenance issues. BMW should be forced to either replace transmissions that have issues like mine or replace the entire car. Won’t ever buy another BMW ever again. And good luck selling my car without replacing the transmission!!
Hello all, I have a 2014 X3 that i have just bought with 107,xxx miles. I am planning to do this over the next month myself. Has anyone measured how much ATF was drained originally? Out of curiosity if only 5 quarts drain out it might be that FCP send the 7 quarts to account for any errors while filling.
From what I've found it's very similar if not the same. I'd suggest taking a look at your transmission and verifying that it looks like mine in the video.
or even a ZF 6 speed ie E70 X5 etc, , plus as someone mentioned, the seals are a quick change too, old ones start to lose a little pressure and you get slight delays and or flares in gear changes. @@yodersgarage
This is the first video I've seen that actually shows the fillport properly. Good job.
You did everything excellently but I would add one thing as a help for others;
Always be sure to use the transmission fluid on the new gasket on the pan to make sure the gasket seals around the edge instead of being dry against the metal surface. 10/10
The 2 quarts are what’s in the system and lines that aren’t in the pan that’s why u have extra
I drained it 3 times in a row , with a little testdrive in between.
I made it instead of a real flush , to get as much old oil out of the trans as possible.
If it’s x-drive, don’t forget to change the transfer case fluid.
Most underrated comment award!
Why’s that?
Once you drIn the fluid from the transfer case.. you will see how contaminated the fluid is.
@@rpons541 I certainly understand that it’s something that has to be done. Was just wondering what changing trans fluid has to do with changing diff fluid other than the service interval being the same.
How many liters do you need for xdrive
You need to cycle the car through R N D and Manuel mode gears to pump fluid around . With your foot on the break .
With the car in accessory or fully on I’m ab to get my car from the shop n some ppl just say it drives fine others say it needs to be reprogrammed
@@Imnolim ZF states that just oil change does not require programming.
Programming shouldn't be necessary, but shifting through the gears is. This will activate the valves and ensure everything has fluid flowing appropriately.
Nice job! I did the same on my wife’s X5 at 75k. What’s incredible is I have very similar setup and tools like you. And agree on recovering the next day from auto diy workout!
Great minds think alike!
Great video, love the homemade tools and crocks! Yup, most of the transfluid remains in the lines and torque converter. Key is to change the pan, get 45% new fliud, then return in 20-30K and siphon out as much as you can and replace/refill to full. Wish I had the lift he used, I had to lift the car on to jack stands - not fun, probably more dangerous. I did use a pressurized/vacuum fluid extractor to remove and replace, made the whole process that much easier.
And yes, do the transfer case fluid as well, same issue as the trans, you won't get all of it out. Don't forget the front and rear differentials. both are super easy to do in comparison.
I was stumped too when it took 2qts less as well. Also they make a contraption jut like the one you made at harbor freight for 7 dollars. Fits right on the fluid cans.
would you happen to have the link to said contraption?
Consider using a true Allen key instead of socket to break the fill plug. Takes up less room. Use one that you can attach a small pipe to for addl leverage.
mine is really tight on there im getting scared of stripping it
Try tapping it with a hammer or heavy wrench to help break it free
Just did this on my F90 M5 and was worried that I had extra fluid as well 😂 I feel like its low on fluid and my mind is making me hear things around the tranny. Good to see I wasn’t the only one with extra fluid.
How’s the car going so far? Any issues at all with the transmission?
If you want to get rid of the old fluid in the converter you can refill the pan then disconnect the return line from the cooler and run the engine just until, say, a litre has come out, then stop the engine and refill the pan again. Repeat until the fluid emerging is clean then reconnect the line and do the final fill. This does, of course depend on being able to get to a convenient coupling in the cooler return line.
I just did this yesterday on my 2014 435i and I have 2 quarts leftover as well. I also got the kit from FCP
That's good to know, and it makes me feel a bit better! I've put about 1000 miles on mine since the service with no issues, so I'm just going to assume it's fine.
@@yodersgarage Glad to hear. How did you pull up the transmission oil temp on the scanner? I have the same exact one (NT510 Elite) that shows the transmission oil temp under the Operating Variables page, which is accessed from the Data Manager option on the main menu and mine wouldn't budge from 13ºC
I remember it was a bit finicky, and I had to disconnect and reconnect a few times. Try clearing the car's info and run a fresh scan. It'll take a bit, but that should do it. Good luck!
@@JPDenali I have the same scanner also. I believe it is under DRIVE and then option 5 (transmission mgmt). Then select transmission oil temperature. Will get live data..
On mine I flush it completely thru the trans oil cooler.
After emptying the transmission sump oil thru the plug I unplugged both entrance and exit oil links in the trans oil cooler radiator.
Before I start the engine I plug a little 12 volts pump to push new oil in while the trans pump throw the old oil out.
It is easy to know which one just turning the key and watch which one throw it out.
To know exactly when it is done I throw in 12 quarts of ATF, the exact amount declared by Volkswagen and just wait for the exiting oil to change is color.
Mine is the ZF6HP32A linked to the 313hp 5.0 V10 TDi Pump-Duse of the 2005 Volkswagen Phaeton.
That is the best way to do it .....Wish you would make a video !
This looks like how my job will go and many of us do it yourselfers. Surprisingly I just bought a Quickjack 5000tl and was curious how it would work with my F36 as I’m about to do this very job. I opted for a performance aluminum pan with a liter capacity upgrade so we’ll see how it goes. My car is pretty tuned so likely around 400hp if not more. Want the car and fluids to be good before hitting the drag strip. Good post
Good luck at the strip, let us know how it goes!
I would recommend the Harbor Freight $12 battery pump to refill the oil. Saves the hassle of pumping it back in
Yeah, next time I do this I'll get a real pump, lol
Thanks broooooo. I am going to return the $30.00 Amazon hand pump and get this. What a save.
I created a pressure pump from a $14 Harbor Freight yard sprayer. Easily and quickly transferred the new fluid. No mess and great control.
Pre fill, Once the car is started you should be immediately filling, then once filled, put plug in, take your to 40c then run through gears, then top it off, don’t wait for 40c for second full, transmission will be sucking on air as pan is empty
I hope I haave the same setup as you do so I can do it myself. But not for me, so I bought the FCP kit and took it to autoshop to repair.
Same as yours, My car (640i) left 1L fluid unused.
Good video!
I’m doing mine real soon, 2017 335d xdrive great video
My mechanic charges $540 for this service. After all the parts, tools, fluids, and time, this is one of those services that’s well worth paying to have done…especially if you don’t have a lift.
That's a great deal. I would definitely have someone do it for that price!
@@yodersgaragea man do it by himself!!!!!!
My dealer wanted $1200 a year or so ago to do this -after a $200 "discount". A local indy wanted $1100. Glad I did it myself for the price of the FCP Euro ZF kit: $249. Other than all the misc screws to remove underside panels and misc BMW style obstructions, it is really straight forward. The only difference is that you have to monitor the transmission oil temperature, however any decent DIY'er should already have a scan tool with this functionality. And if not, given the savings, it's well worth the add. Now that I've done it and got past the "fear factor", I look forward to doing it again in 30 - 50k Mike's. Oh, no lift. Used central jack points to quickly put on jack stands.
@@Miguel-h5j5cPride comes before a fall. Some men know when to leave it to the professionals and avoid a ruined transmission and $7000+ repair bill.
But you go on being a tough guy. More braun than brains 😂
@@F32_Rocket the people always argue that they dont have time, that their time is so expensive and they prefer to pay. But the reality is that is very rare to find a good and honest mechanic. Always that Im going to make a service in my BMW, 4 months before the service. I check the OEM manual and specifications, i buy the necessary and best equipamient. At the end is better to be self sufficient, but is your decisión
Very good video and is a nice look at someone doing this for the first time at home. Good clear pics and nice that you pointed out the issues you ran across. Very, very helpful and thought provoking. I have the same scan tool. Great add to my tool box. Your dealers quote was fairly reasonable at $600. My dealer here in CT wants $1400. But was willing to give a $200 "discount". Indy wanted $1,100. At those prices going to do myself. Will also be using the FCP Euro kit. Question, how did the car drive afterwards?
Thanks for the comment! It has about 1000 miles on it since the service with zero issues. Take a look at the "Save $1200..." video and you'll see some high-throttle driving that took place in the last few days.
Pretty much did the same thing only difference is I used an Amazon $25 electric transfer pump.
Good video. Remember to always hand thread before using power tools.
I picked up a large (500ml) syringe from ebay which I am going to use to fill mine. The hose I had lying around the garage. It has to be faster and easier than a hand soap dispenser.
Great video. I found that we only used 4 bottles of fluid
Great vid!
Did this on my wife’s X3M40i for $250. Stealership wanted $1500!
I see prices continue to rise. Mine quoted $1400 before a $200 discount when I laughed at the $1400.
Great video. Definitely wanna attempt to do this, but my 340i currently has 84,000 miles on it and I have no idea if the previous owner has done the transmission service. What would be the easiest way to check if my fluid isn’t too contaminated or too late to change it now?
If I don't know what the previous owner has done, I always assume nothing has been done. Even when they tell me something has been done I still don't assume it's been done correctly. Its much better to be safe than sorry when it come to your car's fluids, as replacing an engine or transmission is significantly more expensive than a few hundred dollars spent on servicing. With that said, one way you should be able to tell if the transmission has been opened is to look at the fill plug and see if there are marks inside the head indicating it has been removed previously. Aside from that there's no way to know the condition of the fluid/ innards without draining and replacing the fluid and filter pan, at least no way that would provide me peace of mind. Hope this helps, and good luck!
I just changed mine out at 76k miles. Fluid looked good and still had a greenish tinge.
I know of a very good supplemental video to this one
Do you know another way to check temperature before doing another fill? I don’t have a scanner and I was thinking let the car idle but for how long?
Unfortunately I don't think there's a definitive way to find the temp without a scanner.
Quickjacks + pinch welds + glossy floor = death. I used the rubber blocks on pinchwelds with my Quickjacks and both jacks shot out the sides because the floor wasn't grippy enough to keep the blocks from deforming sideways. Your blocks look harder than the ones that came with mine and your floor looks less smooth than my concrete but please be careful. I almost died with a similar setup.
I've heard some horror stories, and appreciate your concern! The F30 does not get lifed from pinch welds. It has textured, flat plastic blocks integrated into the body specifically for lifting, which works much better. When I was working on my E30 a few years ago I had the same concern, and bought some slotted blocks meant to be used with pinch welds, and they worked great. I think you can get them directly from Quickjack or Amazon now for $30-ish. Stay safe!
@@yodersgarage thank you! You too! And thank you for the great videos!
I did the ATF change and now hear a slight whine on first gear when driving off after a stop. This happens when the car is warmed up, fluid level is correct I checked twice. Any advice?
Assuming you used the right fluid and did everything else correctly, are you sure it's the transmission? There are a lot of sounds that a car makes when you accelerate.
I used liquimoly that fcpeuro approved so I’m assuming it’s correct lol. No leaks, the fluid is full till it spills out at 40-50 C. It only makes the noise exactly at the tail end of 1st, can’t think of anything else that would make that noise. Its like a slight electric acceleration whine.
@alienonabike any way you can post a clip of it?
Did you figure out why you had extra fluid remaining? I just did mine and also had 2 bottles left, can't figure out why. Great video though !
I didn't, but I've been driving 60-100 miles a day since, so I'm just going to assume everything is fine.
You have extra fluid left over because you drained the transmission rather than completely flushing it. Depending on the transmission, there is always fluid left in the cooler if equipped and torque converter. Completely normal. Flushing isn’t really recommended by many, maybe a myth but some claim flushing can damage the transmission. Good job!
Approximately how much fluid did you put in during the cold fill? The hot fill? Total?
Great video ..... I have a Foxwell NT650 Elite and can not figure out how to get into the operating varables to activate the transmission oil temp. Can you offer any help ? thank u
The 650 appears to be a bit different than the one I used, so I can't say for sure. I know the manual was useless for me, so I just went through each menu until I found it. I can't recall if it was in live data, control modules, or something else, but that's where I'd start.
I contacted Foxwell and the NT 650 does not have that function ..... They let me return the 650 and I purchased the NT510 Elite . Once it warms up I intend to do my daughters car 2016 328d and mine a 2014 328d ...... Once again very good video , simple and straight forward .
I'm glad they were able to help, good luck!
What would you recommend a GM transmission my 2010 328i xDrive that's what I have kind of glad I really don't have the ZF ZF can be yes very well indeed pretty fast responsive but it's less headache that I have to deal with cuz if one of the sensors go and gets complicated after that this is my first new used car oops actually my bag is my second one My first one was an '04 325xi I loved her until she died but now I have my Missy that's my car's name
Hey I had a question so I accidentally drained the transmission fluid because I’m a first time bmw owner and got it mixed up how much quarts should I buy if I just drained the drain bolt ? When I had the 5qt oil box it didn’t fill it up all the way
It depends on the car. You should be pretty close with 5, but it could easily take a few more. To make sure it's right you'll have to get a scan tool and check the fill level at the recommended temp with the car running. Unfortunately there's not a definite amount you'll need, it'll be specific to your car.
Great video. Shops in my area say that this is a 6.8h job with BMW shop asking $1700 for it!
What is your opinion about the aluminum cover vs the normal plastic one?
I'm sure it's a nice upgrade if you want to spend a little extra, but I've had no issues with the original or replacement plastic plan. In my opinion there's no need unless you're putting your car through more than average stress on a regular basis.
Don’t you think you should start those pan bolts by hand first?
yep ... I have around 2 2 litres left too ! 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
i believe the trans fluid cycles upfront towards the oil cooler to cool it - 2 litres stuck in the pioe work !!
Why not use the aluminum oem pans from M cars? They bolt right up however the plastic cover may not fit but it's also not used on the M car trans pans either.
That's a great idea! I'll try that in another 60,000 miles.
I have a 2018 X1 coming up on 70k miles, 1 local shop said they don’t do it at this milage “cause they can slip gears after” is this true or not? Another shop said they can do it and bmw says lifetime oil. I know nothing lasts forever so I have doubts. Thanks!
Great video! Do you have the Quickjack 5000 or 7000 series? I am looking into getting the 5000tlx (Hopefully there will be a 4th of July sale)
Thanks! I have the 5000.
@@yodersgarage That's awesome, looks like there's plenty of work room there. I'm changing out all my fluids once my stuff from fcp comes in.
Check costco. They have sales on Quickjack pretty regularly, and not many people know about it
I was being eager to remove my transmission and did a drain from the drain plug only. Have I messed up something? I noticed everyone removes the fill plug before the drain and I don’t have a clue why. Can you please elaborate??
Don't worry, you didn't mess anything up. Sometimes with this type of setup (typically on high mileage / highly corroded vehicles) the fill plug can get stuck in the transmission making it impossible to refill. Removing that plug first is just insurance that you'll be able to refill the transmission.
i'm curious did you measure how much oil you took out from the transmission? compared to how much you put in. i've seen some people measuring and tilting the car so they can put the exact same quantity back.
I didn't, but that seems to be the most popular question on here. If you're planning to do this service maybe you could see how much you get and share with with group!
How you will know if the drained oil has the correct quantity so you can put the exact same after that ? That's why you measure it after a while between the temp range and check if its the correct quantity.
@@yodersgarage i just changed mine today, i got 4.5 litres out, and i put the same amount inside. the kit i grought from ZF had 7 litres, so now i have 2.5 litres left. my transmision is 8HP45.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing.
@@bogdananghel9480I got the same out on my 2014 428i 4.5 quarts when I did it a few years ago, I measured what I got out and put that exact back in no problems at all. I did a lot of highway driving and actually changed it at 130k miles and surprisingly it didn’t slip or ruin the transmission, made it much smoother. Now getting ready to do it to my 2015 435i next but at 60k
My 2015 328i In-line 4 drained out roughly 4.3 quarts and only 4 quarts back in. I am curious why BMW says I need 8 quarts based on my VIN# but the car only took 4 quarts.
There is residual fluid in the system that would need to be pumped out to reach the 8qt capacity.
@@yodersgarage you didnt pump out anything and still got more fluid in 😅
If you don’t mind me asking, what lift system do you have? I’ve been thinking about getting something similar. Do you have any recommendations on brands and where to buy?
Mine is the Quickjack BL5000-SLX, and I highly recommend it! It breaks down in about 10 mins and hangs on the wall, and is significantly less sketchy than jack stands. I think there are some similar options out there from other manufacturers, but I've never had any issues with mine, so until I get a real 2 post lift I'm sticking with this one. Check out Costco and Home Depot (online). They both carry Quickjacks, and they go on sale for a few hundred dollars off a couple times per year.
Anyone changed the connector sleeve too? My genuine ZF kit came with the round sleeve which goes through the body of the gearbox for the main harness, just wondering if I should do it, or leave well alone and avoid potential disaster when it turns into one of these nightmare jobs!
Unless it's leaking, I would leave it alone.
Too funny, I got the same car and the same GT Pantera Mountain Bike too.
Wow, what are the odds of that?
Where did you get those car stands?? I need those! :)
They're called Quickjacks. I got mine at Costco, but lots of places have them.
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I have 2016 BMW 528i xdrive with 98K miles, is it advisable to change transmission fluid at this high mileage. Dealer says, transmission fluid in BMW is life time and there is a possibility of slipping gears if we change transmission fluid. Please advise.
I suppose it's possible that gear slippage could happen if something is not done correctly. It seems odd that they are advising against a service that they make so much money from and often perform. It sounds more like they dont want to rather than actually advising against. I've been servicing my own vehicles my whole life, and have yet to see anything on a car that is a "lifetime" no-maintenemace item, especially fluids. I can't tell you what to do with your car, but I'd suggest doing a little more research and come to a conclusion you're comfortable with.
I, personally, would much rather have the peace of mind that such an import part of my car is being serviced and kept in the best condition possible.
Best of luck to you!
That is bunk. Change your fluid.
I asked ZF directly about this as mine has 145000 miles.
He understands the concern but said the risk to transmission performance/longevity is bigger if the service is not done.
BMW's "lifetime" is 200.000km, better to change the oil as ZF recommends at appr. 90.000km / 55.000miles
You did ok but while the engine was running to bring the oil temperature to 45/50 you should of run the transmission through the gears D N P and S manual, then go underneath while the car is running and continue to pump more fluid till it starts to spill like you did at the end.
I actually did run it through the gears, just forgot to show it
@@yodersgarage when you tun it through the gears, do the wheels spin? mine is xdrive so i would need to have all wheels in the air.
@@bogdananghel9480 yeah, I let mine spin a little just to ensure it was engaging
You need ista-d to run the transmission fill procedure that’s the only way I would change the fluid in a bmw
Where did you get those Jacks from mate?
They're QuickJacks that I bought from Costco, but they're available from other retailers too. I'm fairly certain you can buy directly from their website.
Had anyone used Mobil1 Full Synthetic ATF Multi Vehicle Formula (grey bottle black label) before in their ZF trans? Thanks
Mobil 1 synthetic ATF very good ….I did to used for my BMW e39 GM Trans . I thinking ZF Trans 8 Speed different fluid !
I used the Mobil1 Synthetic ATF about 6 weeks ago on a 2019 Acura MDX with a 9sp ZF trans and also on its SH-AWD rear differential. I did a 2x drain and fill and from first drive it’s operated as smoothly as normal. Almost 1,500mi on it thus far. I’m thinking of replacing the Valvoline Maxlife ATF on my mom’s Maserati Quattroporte ZF6HP maybe later this year or by next spring. Should be good 👍🏽
Many people have posted that Valvoline Maxlife Multi-vehicle ATF is great in ZF transmissions.
@@glennr9913 and ya know what? I too believed that. For a few years I used Maxlife, but it performed poorly in 540RAT’s testing citing the poor wear protection is probably due to ultra thin viscosity. Thin is generally good but engineers have gone out of hand with it. Anyway it’s been almost a year and Mobil1 is going in every single vehicle I come across whose owners want it. Acura MDX 9sp ZF FWD trans and its SH-AWD rear differential, Mercedes C250 722.9+ trans, my LX470, and my mom’s Maserati with 6HP ZF soon this spring! A-OK
I’m not harsh on Maxlife. I have NEVER had a problem with it. For a couple years I believed it was the magic bullet. But now the current bargain magic weapon is Mobil1 Synthetic ATF Multi Vehicle (silver bottle/black label). Just got a case from Amazon yesterday. It was $53.41 for 6qts!
How many liters of atf did you drain on your car?
I'm not sure. I just poured it into my waste oil tub and didn't measure it out. I didn't have any reason to think it was low though.
when should you change it
I beleive the official recommendation from ZF is 60,000 miles. I did mine at 70k
*i just did this on my transmission but my oil was red... oops*
If your fluid is red you may have a different transmission or somebody else previously put the wrong fluid in it.
There should be a class action lawsuit against BMW (& other manufacturers) for saying that the transmission fluid doesn’t get changed because that’s total crap (like my transmission). My 2009 BMW 1 series 128i convertible has transmission issues and only 116k miles. The previous owner never changed the fluid per BMW and now it shudders in 4th & 5th gears when I drive it in full automatic mode. If I manually shift it drives fine with no shudder.
If there has been a schedule to change the fluid and the previous owner had it done this most likely wouldn’t be a problem. Now I’m screwed with a transmission that is not going to last very long. It’s a crime to not have a schedule to maintain it. I read up on this and found that there is no coolant flush, or trans flush, or diff flush or fuel filter that is scheduled by BMW. That’s criminal on the part of BMW. No wonder BMWs have so many issues. I’m sick of auto makers misinforming customers on these maintenance issues. BMW should be forced to either replace transmissions that have issues like mine or replace the entire car. Won’t ever buy another BMW ever again. And good luck selling my car without replacing the transmission!!
Hello all, I have a 2014 X3 that i have just bought with 107,xxx miles. I am planning to do this over the next month myself.
Has anyone measured how much ATF was drained originally? Out of curiosity if only 5 quarts drain out it might be that FCP send the 7 quarts to account for any errors while filling.
Is this the same for the 330i?
Depends what year, but if you have a ZF 8 speed it'll likely be the same.
2019 330i@@yodersgarage
From what I've found it's very similar if not the same. I'd suggest taking a look at your transmission and verifying that it looks like mine in the video.
or even a ZF 6 speed ie E70 X5 etc, , plus as someone mentioned, the seals are a quick change too, old ones start to lose a little pressure and you get slight delays and or flares in gear changes. @@yodersgarage
Hi mate BMW G20?
Mine is an F30, but G20 is very similar
Thank you
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ZF says 150 000 km.
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At least $1,000 at my dealership!
your arms look cartoonish lmao you got the popeye build, big arms but small shoulders and torso
i will buy the pump, i dont care xD I feel your misery pumping that shit for hours under a car xD
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And flush?........... partial procedure... no good
Wrong.
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No need for fluid😢 changed in gear . Lifetime ..🫡 also visable from video how clan that fluid was
Pump pump😂