There’s a piece I had to play in highschool that required me to hold out a high A at pianissimo for 16+ seconds it was ridiculous. And don’t get me started on profanation…
I am a beginner horn player only been playing for about a year, part of a school band and some notes are for some reason hard to hit, for example, D4 G5 C#5 etc.
My break is exactly on middle C. When I worked with Denise Tryon on my embouchure change, I learned to play with my “low set” and “high set” and I turns out my break between these is exactly on middle C!
It took me a long time to find a video that clearly discussed the registers of the friend horn WITH the notation AND with actually hearing it played. As a composer, thank you!! 👏 Quick question: You are playing a triple horn, right?
Haydn 50 is pretty high, looks fun, but tops out at D (quite a few of them). Hadyn 51 has the highest partial (21st) in the second mvt. and the F in the 3rd that I think you were talking about. There's a G in the Bach aria from BWV 14
I struggle to get past the High Register yet have little issue with going well past the pedal notes. Do you have any tips to extend my range in both directions?
He has videos on both of these but in case you missed them go up chromatically until you hit your highest good sounding note then go up another semi tone for high and vise versa for low
@@ScottLegerHorn oh really, pitch recognition isn’t really there for me, but b natural above high c is also my highest note(not chromatically, on glissandos), good work😅
When I was a kid, I played second horn in a community orchestra alongside my teacher. Occasionally, we'd be asked to read through somebody's new composition. If the inept composer wrote a first-horn part that went ridiculously high (ie, long passages near high C), he would just play the wrong notes on purpose. Nobody ever noticed.
thats deinatly cuz ur a trumpet player, my trumpet techer can play a super c on french horn but not on trumpet and he stugles to play pedal g, and he is rrly good he gets highered to play with bands and stuff
as a horn player... TEACH ME PLEASE. I have been playing for 4 years and the lowest note I can play is a C on the 5th space below the stave and the highest is an A on the first ledger line above the stave. 😭😭😭 I LOVE THE HORN
@@jankington216 I used, in my playing days, get to the C below that (3 octaves below middle C) as a party piece!! Won a few pints off bass trombonists over the years!
I can only get 4 octaves C to C - maybe D, E when i push. But heres the thing - nobody writes music for this crazy range unless it is Titanic Fantasy for 12 horns and it does cover low C to high D. Unless you are Barry Tuckwell and play in the stratosphere, you wont see these notes in the real world, same with cellar notes and bass clef. rare.
Hi, I'm currently writing a composition that uses a french horn, having watched this video I was wondering if you could tell me if C5 (concert pitch) is playable within the 'money range' just as it is the highest note I'm using for the horn so ideally wouldn't want the player to have to switch to a different style mid way through, thank you :)
The mid-low range was really tricky for me but the low-low range came out pretty clear. What helped me out was jutting out the bottom part of my jaw a little bit and opening up my oral cavity a ton. That really helped me to get the jaw placement that I needed (Dunno if you even still need help with it, kind of a late response but there you go😅)
F# 2.5 ocataves below the 'middle c' which is the first ledger line below the treble clef) all the way to C one octave above 'high C' which is 2 ledger lines above the treble clef. I guess that would be a 'super C'? Who cares, though. You might have one of those a day, if lucky! So, my useful range was about 4.5 octaves, with some coaxed (and very quiet) extra low notes and some extreme notes heading to 'super C'. I play trumpet now - loving it!
Don't play it so hard. Let it be easy. Let 'em just squeak out, to start. You gotta let the air vibrate the lips, so just form a really small aperture and let some air through.
but my book says this note is part of the horn's register, so I will write it regardless. maybe even make it very long. and very loud too.
100% correct, no notes
There’s a piece I had to play in highschool that required me to hold out a high A at pianissimo for 16+ seconds it was ridiculous. And don’t get me started on profanation…
One piece I had it was in 6/8 the beginning was straight accented 8th notes all at the F one octave below the bottom f on the staff. It was not fun
do you remember what piece it was? @@TroubleLightCoasters
I am a beginner horn player only been playing for about a year, part of a school band and some notes are for some reason hard to hit, for example, D4 G5 C#5 etc.
I like how the elephant buzz at the end is universal cuz my friend always does that when he plays high
That pffff at the end 🤣 So relatable. Well played!!
Thank you Scott, you are a great ambassador for the horn.
Thank you :)
My break is exactly on middle C. When I worked with Denise Tryon on my embouchure change, I learned to play with my “low set” and “high set” and I turns out my break between these is exactly on middle C!
I felt that last part. 😂
Thank you bro! I'm writing a piece where horns are particularly important and knowing this is going to make it actually playable. :)
It took me a long time to find a video that clearly discussed the registers of the friend horn WITH the notation AND with actually hearing it played. As a composer, thank you!! 👏
Quick question: You are playing a triple horn, right?
Looks like it to me- two thumb triggers
Your control on your squeaker register and pedal register is my goal
I wanna take a bite out of this guys tone
That sound very sacrilegious
Good. I am not the only one that does a horse impression in the high register.
Dude i watch this video over and over just because i like hearing the pedal C
I’m an f horn player and can’t even play high F. HOW are you so good?
Well for one thing he has played horn for almost two decades (yeah I mean he's pretty good 😂)
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Haydn 50 is pretty high, looks fun, but tops out at D (quite a few of them). Hadyn 51 has the highest partial (21st) in the second mvt. and the F in the 3rd that I think you were talking about. There's a G in the Bach aria from BWV 14
I struggle to get past the High Register yet have little issue with going well past the pedal notes.
Do you have any tips to extend my range in both directions?
He has videos on both of these but in case you missed them go up chromatically until you hit your highest good sounding note then go up another semi tone for high and vise versa for low
Try arpeggios, scales (and chromatic) to extend your high range. While doing so, make sure your embouchure is small with faster air.
I’m in 7th grade and whenever I play my horn my teacher is like NO PRESSURE ON THAT TOP LIP and I’m like so conduzzelsedddddoifjfjfiffidids
Thanks!
did you just chromatically go up to a double g?
I think I got up to the Bb and if you’re generous that last squeak was a B natural lol
@@ScottLegerHorn oh really, pitch recognition isn’t really there for me, but b natural above high c is also my highest note(not chromatically, on glissandos), good work😅
@@chickentender-_-3905 It's all glissandos up there.
When I was a kid, I played second horn in a community orchestra alongside my teacher. Occasionally, we'd be asked to read through somebody's new composition. If the inept composer wrote a first-horn part that went ridiculously high (ie, long passages near high C), he would just play the wrong notes on purpose. Nobody ever noticed.
Personally I find the high register on horn much easier then the low register. But thats perhaps because I also play trumpet.
Yeah can't relate 😂
thats deinatly cuz ur a trumpet player, my trumpet techer can play a super c on french horn but not on trumpet and he stugles to play pedal g, and he is rrly good he gets highered to play with bands and stuff
Drop your jaw for low notes.
Perfect, thank you!
god damn and i thought i could go high on the horn in music school, didnt know it could make such sounds
as a horn player... TEACH ME PLEASE. I have been playing for 4 years and the lowest note I can play is a C on the 5th space below the stave and the highest is an A on the first ledger line above the stave. 😭😭😭 I LOVE THE HORN
bros horn register goes higher than my trumpet register
Great video, thank you.
One of the joys of being a 4th horn is watching a 3rd in Til…
They write 4th horn like it can play lower than bass trombone lol
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It can! Well, I can.
@@FeckHallBahn I don't speak for all bass trombone players, but I have a pretty solid Ab 0
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I used, in my playing days, get to the C below that (3 octaves below middle C) as a party piece!! Won a few pints off bass trombonists over the years!
@@FeckHallBahn that's pretty good, C -1. I would say I have you beat but not solidly, I really have to let my buzz settle to get the Bb -1
I can play and half of the high register, middle "money" and mid low and low "brake" 2 year in!!!
I can only get 4 octaves C to C - maybe D, E when i push. But heres the thing - nobody writes music for this crazy range unless it is Titanic Fantasy for 12 horns and it does cover low C to high D. Unless you are Barry Tuckwell and play in the stratosphere, you wont see these notes in the real world, same with cellar notes and bass clef. rare.
Barry Tuckwell? LOL! omigosh. There's a name from the past.
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When students want the 4th part on Frippery 8, teacher learns students enjoy the break register.
I've never been able to play much above the a before the c above the stave.
As a horn player currently going through his undergrad, that extreme-high register makes my chops hurt just looking at it 😂
"just brass player things" so true
u should post a demestica excerpt vid now lol
Hi, I'm currently writing a composition that uses a french horn, having watched this video I was wondering if you could tell me if C5 (concert pitch) is playable within the 'money range' just as it is the highest note I'm using for the horn so ideally wouldn't want the player to have to switch to a different style mid way through, thank you :)
So C2-C6 (written) is where the vast majority of horn music falls? The really low pedal tones and super high notes don’t sound very musical.
my break seems to be between around Bb (below staff). it’s an awkward spot, and i’m trying to figure out how to get rid of that. any tips?
The mid-low range was really tricky for me but the low-low range came out pretty clear. What helped me out was jutting out the bottom part of my jaw a little bit and opening up my oral cavity a ton. That really helped me to get the jaw placement that I needed (Dunno if you even still need help with it, kind of a late response but there you go😅)
@@AAronSmithFH i’m in my undergrad now for horn, and it’s become less of a problem, but it’s another tool that could possibly help. thanks!
F# 2.5 ocataves below the 'middle c' which is the first ledger line below the treble clef) all the way to C one octave above 'high C' which is 2 ledger lines above the treble clef. I guess that would be a 'super C'? Who cares, though. You might have one of those a day, if lucky!
So, my useful range was about 4.5 octaves, with some coaxed (and very quiet) extra low notes and some extreme notes heading to 'super C'.
I play trumpet now - loving it!
how do you get anything higher than F near above the staff on the horn. I use a double horn, idk the brand
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You made this because of the us army band video, didn’t you… lol gotta flex on the percussionists
Jeez. Bb is crazy lol. Gs are nice to have on good days. Just use the descant! lmao
Descant doesn't make it any easier. It just makes the slots wider.
I can play whole middle register, mid low and to the f octave lower and that's all :(
I can usually play lower than that low octave you did 😂
After 7 years playing the French horn, my range is comfortably from a low G-High G. 2 octaves. *7* years, and only 2 octaves.
You've got to drop your jaw and practice changing your armature.
I’m a euphonium player trying to on my range.
0:39 ta-ta inspector gadget....
I'm a very strong low player and cannot play a pedal C consistently. Thankfully, I've never had to. I can really blast a pedal E though.
Pedal E might be the most satisfying note on any instrument
I can only play 2 octaves and 3 notes, high G and D & E before the low F
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Just to note that its HIS limit :)
No way. I can only go 2 octaves and I have been playing 7 years.
Quick question, how do you go that high without your face turning red, because when I try I have to blow so hard no matter how calm I try to be😭
Don't play it so hard. Let it be easy. Let 'em just squeak out, to start. You gotta let the air vibrate the lips, so just form a really small aperture and let some air through.
Double or triple horn?
He uses a triple but even with the extra tubing that is insane range
How do you finger above high c on a double horn?
The best fingerings using the F horn fingerings two octaves lower but with the Bb trigger down.
So C# - Bb12, D - Bb1 and so on
I always used my left hand. ;-)
Sound like tuba
only 5 octaves. lol
Funny thing is, the trombone can play all of that and more
True, but it is a trombone, so... LOL!!! ;-)
im not french horn player but i can make these high ranges on my trombone and ive only learned it in 2 months and im only 14.
Right on! Let it be easy. Always find and allow the easy!!
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That high F above the staff that the composer wrote with FFFFFF dynamics 💀
High register is easy with third Gear on that Schmidt ;) Try it on Alex 103
ive gone way lower than low A in bass clef. almost like a low F
Fantastic!
Thank you🙏