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  • @RyanShawtech
    @RyanShawtech  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

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  • @Ryan-ff2db
    @Ryan-ff2db 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +100

    Cost of ownership and charging at home are big reasons to buy an EV but if I'm being honest with myself, it's the instant torque that will prevent me from ever buying another gas vehicle.

    • @modernNeanderthal800
      @modernNeanderthal800 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Love my fusion Energi. I feel sick trying to "go fast" anymore in the fusion

    • @Ryan-ff2db
      @Ryan-ff2db 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@modernNeanderthal800 It's more when you need it you have it. Passing on a two lane road is much safer and quicker. I remember the old days of having to fall back a bit and then slam the gas 2 seconds before the oncoming car passes to get the RPM's and the turbo spooled up. In an EV you just go, no lag of any kind.

    • @inediblenut
      @inediblenut 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's nice to find out that launching the Tesla is actually good for the battery life! Now we have an excuse for the highway patrol equivalent to the old ICE line about needing to open it up to blow out the carbon.

    • @modernNeanderthal800
      @modernNeanderthal800 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Ryan-ff2db I feel this.
      I used to pass only during clear skies, 2pm and I can see for 1+ish mile. I love my car, 188hp 2018 Energi, but it was too much on the engine or it was to be a major risk to the car and me; then there's what you said.
      The Tesla is suddenly at whatever speed the driver commands it to be at.

    • @turbobros_online1561
      @turbobros_online1561 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is nice, but i hear people say this all the time. I'm just like, "Gotcha, so you have never driver a supercharged V8" cause it's also instant loads of torque.

  • @darellosmusic
    @darellosmusic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +219

    My wife and I bought 2 Tesla’s this year. Most likely will never go back to a gas pump or oil changes. We’re spoiled with a home wall connector!

    • @Rick-qr1cm
      @Rick-qr1cm 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      What do you do for work that both you and your wife bought two Teslas? Also who needs 4 Teslas?

    • @darellosmusic
      @darellosmusic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amatiphone9644 I'm not rich. just take care of my money very well.

    • @darellosmusic
      @darellosmusic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Rick-qr1cm I misunderstood your comment. My wife and I, together, we bought 2 teslas.

    • @darellosmusic
      @darellosmusic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amatiphone9644 I'm not rich. I just take care of my money very well; something I would not want to brag about anyway. Unless you ask me how I do it, I'd be willing to help.

    • @Ryan-ff2db
      @Ryan-ff2db 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amatiphone9644 You don't have to be rich to own a Tesla anymore.

  • @jorgetasse
    @jorgetasse 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    I just got my first Tesla ever yesterday with FSD and free supercharge for a year. If you ever owned a new Tesla you already know how I'm feeling right now... Like where have I been 😅

    • @inediblenut
      @inediblenut 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Try out the FSD as soon as you can. I was skeptical before the most recent free trial, but now am thinking about it for a future purchase, or if we do some long trips to buy it for a few months. It worked almost flawlessly.

    • @cryptojoe8087
      @cryptojoe8087 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      How did you get a free year? I just purchased mines and picking up tomorrow.. it said 3 months of FSD and supercharge for me?

    • @waleedabdulrab8779
      @waleedabdulrab8779 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@cryptojoe8087 Yeah, it's 3 months. Never heard of FSD being a year free.

    • @Slynell1
      @Slynell1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cryptojoe8087 might be in the uk. they are offering the Y with a years free supercharging

    • @kryogyn1
      @kryogyn1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Better late than never! 😂 I bought M-Y in dec 2020, with over the air updates and FSD improvements I still get that Xmas morning feeling about the car. I will be upgrading to the new model Y as soon it gets released.

  • @tomb5552
    @tomb5552 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I live in a seniors village, and almost everyone here have a Tesla. Great for short trips, and no runs to the gas station. I have arthritis and Love being able to turn on the heater before gutting in.

    • @R56Cooper
      @R56Cooper 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Will be even more valuable when Tesla FSD unsupervised releases🎉

  • @daves0811
    @daves0811 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I bought my Model Y in 2022. In 2023, my brother and my sister bought a new Model Y each. October 2024, my other sister bought a new model Y as well when Tesla gave the 1.9% interest rate. They all saw how convenient home charging was for me, and they saw how supercharging was never an issue with Hurricane Ian in 2022. When Hurricane Helen and Hurricane Milton hit, they saw how easy it was to evacuate and supercharging was faster than waiting in gas lines.

  • @MrDadioDude
    @MrDadioDude 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    If the batteries outlast my car i can have it installed in my new car. EV sales in the future could be car only, no battery included. Like transferring FSD to another vehicle you would take the battery from your old car can be installed in a batteryless new car. Much like DeWalt 'Tool Only' concept.

    • @chriss377
      @chriss377 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Pretty sure Ryobi started tool only with their Oneplus series.

    • @modernNeanderthal800
      @modernNeanderthal800 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh shit 😮

    • @jkoonce4244
      @jkoonce4244 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly

    • @patkapartis5633
      @patkapartis5633 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dont give them that idea

    • @protorhinocerator142
      @protorhinocerator142 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Unless they come out with an even better battery by then.

  • @nikkitson3878
    @nikkitson3878 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Just sold 2021 Model Y. Can’t wait to get new Model Y Juniper. Never going back to a gas car, gas stations, service visits & constant repairs

    • @terrancecloverfield6791
      @terrancecloverfield6791 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Eh. I can take it or leave it. I just want something cheap and easy to repair+maintain. Like solar, what sense does it make to spend $30k (solar+battery) when the everyday savings is $7 each day at worst case?

    • @droyce4596
      @droyce4596 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@terrancecloverfield6791 In a few years those costs should come down considerably.
      Right now the cells to power a house for 3 days cost around $3000 ($45/kwh at pack assembler level * 60kwh) and 15kw of panels costs about $3000 or less ($0.20/watt which is between US and China prices)
      A 12kw inverter is around $1500, but micro inverters are better for some situations and cost a little more usually.
      But overall, I'd expect these costs to make it to consumers to some extent as the industry matures over the next few years.
      Even at $30k if the system is part of a new construction and is included in the mortgage, the additional monthly cost would be less than a utility bill. Still, usefulness in winter will depend on region of course so a grid connection will probably be required for the foreseeable future for more people.

    • @webx135
      @webx135 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@terrancecloverfield6791 In the case of an EV, it's more like what do the resulting payments or overall cost look like, and how does it compare to a vehicle of similar NET cost.
      In my case, I'm saving ~$200/mo in gas. My net monthly payment comes to that of a new Civic.

    • @Ryan-ff2db
      @Ryan-ff2db 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@terrancecloverfield6791 Everyone should do the math themselves depending on their circumstances, area pricing and usage. I live in the Socialist State of California with base pricing and at .43 cents and .61 peak. It would have been foolish not to get solar. If I lived in an area with 10 to 15 cent pricing, it would probably be a different story.

    • @tomb5552
      @tomb5552 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠what nice with an EV and home charging, is have a full tank of gas every morning.

  • @alanjones8573
    @alanjones8573 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    For me the time saved not going to the gas station is the most important. I was able to squeeze out level 1 charging at home without replacing my panel and that is fine charging overnight. Life changing!

  • @brucehutcheson5371
    @brucehutcheson5371 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    In you list of reasons to own an EV, you mentioned not having to gas up at filling stations. I was just thinking about this today as I passed a gas station I used to stop at. Its about 27 degrees F outside here today and the wind is blowing. I remember all those years of standing in the rain and snow waiting for my gas tank to fill up. Now it takes all of 6 seconds to pop my home charge plug into my Tesla M3's charge port as I head inside to my nice warm house knowing my car will be charged in a few hours ready for me to unplug and get in my already warm car. I can't imagine going back to an ICE world.

    • @modernNeanderthal800
      @modernNeanderthal800 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It felt surreal. Just got my 2018 M3

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ICE world is for knuckleheads, or maybe for people living in Antarctica. I love never having to go to the gas station, and I love how cheap and fun they are to drive.

    • @modernNeanderthal800
      @modernNeanderthal800 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @incognitotorpedo42 if someone has the money, they should get the Tesla for this exact reason.
      It's different. I didn't even like it the first day, but it's cool as hell and seems way more practical than risky

    • @MckWells
      @MckWells 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I want an electric car but currently can't afford one, but I always laugh at the people standing outside, freezing, while their car fills up. I just sit in my car until it's done filling. The residual heat holds out long enough for it fill up.

  • @CChase-ki7cy
    @CChase-ki7cy 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I have owned 7 Teslas so obviously a fan but let’s be honest, FSD has a long way to go before I would let it dive my kids around.

    • @bobclark6350
      @bobclark6350 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Have you tried FSD recently? They have made some major updates over the last several years

    • @bobclark6350
      @bobclark6350 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you tried FSD recently? They have made some major updates over the last several years

    • @bobclark6350
      @bobclark6350 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But, you're right. It is definitely not 💯% yet

    • @lg.studio
      @lg.studio 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      7? That's today's consumerism in a nutshell! That is a lot of waste to produce instead of buying one and using it until it lasts. Were the so malfunctioning that you just had to replace with a new one?

  • @rickblanton4328
    @rickblanton4328 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Don't bank on anything Toyota says. They are notorious for obfuscation regarding EVs.

    • @Joey_DiGs
      @Joey_DiGs 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For good reason

    • @rickblanton4328
      @rickblanton4328 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ , if you call protecting profits in the short term at the expense of profits and carbon emissions in the long term good reason, then yeah.

    • @stephenbateman7254
      @stephenbateman7254 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But but but, their solid state batteries are coming any day now….

    • @Joey_DiGs
      @Joey_DiGs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rickblanton4328 Toyota has never been a move fast and break things kinda company. It’s only a matter of time until they only offer hybrid powertrains which I think would do more than EVs ever could in the short term for the environment. Retooling all their factories for EVs seems like a dumb move when most people don’t even want EVs. Just look at ford and GM and how much capacity they have cut

    • @rickblanton4328
      @rickblanton4328 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ “most people don’t want EVs” is one hell of a statement. It’s simply not true. The legacy OEMs are seeing Tesla stagnate because of the political backlash of Musk and they are taking it as an opportunity not to lose money on EVs and stalling much like Toyota. All the while China is ramping big time. So much so that Trump is having to slap huge tariffs on them. Tesla also is retooling and will have a huge year for new/refreshed vehicles. All of these guys are essentially playing a game of trying to grab a moving train when solid state hits in a couple years. But just like the metaphor, many of them won’t be able to hold on as they aren’t moving fast enough. There’s a good chance we see 3 or more worldwide, Legacy OEMs bankrupt by the end of the decade.

  • @brandonn161
    @brandonn161 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Speaking for myself, when I had to go back to a gas car, I find myself constantly checking the gas gauge every morning to make sure that I don't have to get gas that day. Compared to my ev where I don't even bother paying attention to the battery because I know that it is topped off overnight. Never thought I'd be having gas anxiety, but not having to worry about gas and going to the gas station is a huge plus for me.

  • @incognitotorpedo42
    @incognitotorpedo42 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Launches help my battery last longer? Wow, it's gonna last forever!

    • @Mr1T2X1
      @Mr1T2X1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Batteries will last longer, but the tires won’t, but the fun is endless 😂😂

  • @FatalXS
    @FatalXS 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    It is still really frustrating that you don’t lead into your videos with the headline story. It is really putting me off your channel. I want to see the headline story first. If the rest is relevant I will still watch.

    • @PlaidDad
      @PlaidDad ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Couldn’t agree more. I saw somewhere that if you watch the first 8 or 10 seconds of a video, they get credit / paid as a view for the content. I immediately pause a video and read comments first and decide if I want to give them credit for a view. They need to bring back the thumbs down so we can see that before watching any video.

  • @HippieHank
    @HippieHank 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    I have a 2021 long range with acceleration boost. I haul ass everywhere, mostly highway miles and very little super charging. Just turned 120,000 miles and have only lost about 4 percent. 350 miles from new, now 330. Only tires so far, and repaint hood from chips. Best car I have owned! Thought you should know as I bought it because of this channel, and Biden being elected in 2020(Disaster for fuel). I will only own a Tesla going forward.

    • @gerritgovaerts8443
      @gerritgovaerts8443 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      guess you have great charging habits with that low degradation

    • @bytemark6508
      @bytemark6508 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      20 miles / 350 miles = 0.057 or about 5.7%.. so a little more than 4% loss. However, that's all in the normal parameters. My 2022 M3 LFP, originally 268 miles, I now only get about 254 miles. So a loss of about 14 miles from the original 268, 14/268 = 0.052 (about 5%).

    • @raymondlawson955
      @raymondlawson955 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Toyota 0-60 in 4 seconds?

    • @jamesphillips2961
      @jamesphillips2961 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amatiphone9644 Yearly tires to go along with your yearly battery change and your yearly garage fire, right Komrade Kretinovich?

    • @hokie6384
      @hokie6384 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jamesphillips2961
      If you drove a Corvette like that, you would be on your 2nd or 3rd set of tires and 2nd set of brakes ..as for fires, yes there are some but much less than ICE cars … I hope you or anyone else doesn’t have a fire in their garage. 🤔

  • @MrBubblygoodness
    @MrBubblygoodness 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I got into my first car accident and my Tesla got demolished. I was able to get out safely with minor bruising. I had my model 3 for three years and I don' think I can go back to a gas car. I'm going to invest in another Tesla as my old one not only kept me safe, it's so convenient overall.

  • @pathfollower
    @pathfollower 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Recently retired from a Honda dealership. A teansmission for a Honda pilot required a $400 fluid change every 30k miles. They would come apart if you didnt do it. A new transmission cost $10k. That transmission is not going to last 100s of thousands of miles, even if you do your service.

  • @Spatial_Computer
    @Spatial_Computer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Single crystal metals are not easy to manufacture. I used to be a materials engineer for making single crystal jet turbine parts. A vacuum and ceramic filters is required to remove impurities and a cooling profile specific to the metal is needed, so autoclave is the common equipment. Multicrystalline electrode can be extruded from sheet roll, which is how it is done now. So continuous processing vs batch processing. Plus time in extrusion vs. casting in single crystal is magnitudes different. I have seen 3d printers getting close to printing single crystal metal. Perhaps that can be integrated with a continuous processing design, special for battery electrodes.

    • @JJSmith1100
      @JJSmith1100 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      With Tesla being pushed by Elon I would imagine things would move fast. Just a few years ago "experts" were still saying he is dreaming about landing rockets and that EV's is a niche market. Now landing rockets is the obvious choice and the Model Y is the best seller car in the world. Never bet against Elon, whether you like him or not.

    • @DurfDiggler
      @DurfDiggler 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You’ve answered my first thought about this: how difficult will this be to manufacture. 2nd thought: how much more expensive will it be?
      Sure, a battery that outlasts the rest of the vehicle is great, but at what cost? If the cost is proportional to the lifespan, I’m not going to pay for it. I won’t drive 5 million miles in my lifetime.
      Battery replacement is already a significant portion if not greater than the current value of the car.
      I’m def going to have to research this type of battery further.

    • @Spatial_Computer
      @Spatial_Computer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DurfDiggler yeah. With the advancement of battery recycling and the need for balancing cells, I doubt BEVs is where this battery tech goes.

  • @jeffreythurnau6796
    @jeffreythurnau6796 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you Ryan for the in depth video.
    I agree with all the reasons for never going back to an ICE car. I own a 2017 Tesla Model S75D which was originally a software limited 60D battery pack to save money when I first bought it. Then I paid $2,000 6 months later to get the full 75D. On top of that the car came with free life time supercharging.
    The only sad thing about this car is that the 8 year, 150,000 mile battery and drive train warranty expires January 3, 2025. I’ve lost about 12% (from 259 mile down to 227 mile range) of my battery capacity so far. I really love this car. It is the best automobile I’ve ever owned.
    Once in a while I think about getting a new Model S AWD. The appeal of a 100kWh battery with 402 mile range, all the latest efficiency features, faster charging times, more comfortable seats, etc. entice me to buy new. It would be an awesome road trip car! But then common sense of the high price of the new car, low trade in value of my old car, and losing my free lifetime supercharging snaps me out of that fantasy.
    p.s. I forgot to add that I have solar panels on my house which reduces the cost of charging at home plus, our electric utility price is $0.11 per kWh.

  • @Sal3600
    @Sal3600 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Drove an ICE agian for the first time since i got my tesla and holy hell it feels prehistoric. All the bells and whistles on the fancy dash was all useless and the two pedal driving felt very odd. Made me miss my tesla.

    • @webx135
      @webx135 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What makes me uncomfortable is the power delivery, especially with newer auto transmissions. The difference between low-rev power and high-rev power is insane, and newer cars will only barely tap their respective power bands before shifting. So you will go from almost no acceleration, to too much acceleration, to shifting back into almost no acceleration.
      I had a supercharged buick which I drove until it was totaled twice. I didn't get a new car because the new cars I drove felt awful and inconsistent in their power delivery.

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@webx135 With some EVs theres a chill mode which significantly reduces power. I turn this off only at a red light when theres a guy reving in the other lane.

    • @sdjp19644691
      @sdjp19644691 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂

  • @ademb
    @ademb 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I wish the insurance wasn’t so high. In Australia a normal ice car is around $1,500 AUD for a standard model y for the same person it’s around $3,500 AUD

    • @robsox1337
      @robsox1337 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you drive alot, I think its worth it.

    • @modernNeanderthal800
      @modernNeanderthal800 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A friend drives less than 15k miles a year
      $2/month

    • @jamesgallagher2434
      @jamesgallagher2434 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mine was only $1,500 for my new Tesla M3

    • @Jimmy-hf8fz
      @Jimmy-hf8fz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My BYD Atto 3 new was $1200 AUD for full comprehensive.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It would be great if a Year/Model chart was published each year with the update so we all know what to expect.

  • @Epiha
    @Epiha 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is promising. Currently our 2023 Model 3 with the LFP battery has 162k miles and runs like the day we bought it and charges to 253 miles @ 100% charge. My 2024 Model 3 with LFP has 41k miles and charges to 266 miles @ 100% charge. Fingers crossed our cars will last longer.

  • @ChristopherLeeEdwards
    @ChristopherLeeEdwards 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I helped Jeff Dahn invent the Mica, as the best for a condenser, at ISI Solar Conference in 2014, at his 3M booth. I told him to investigate Nikola Tesla' Condensers, old word for a battery, which included Lithium and Mica in Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant Energy, November 5th 1901. From there, he went on to invent the first Million Mile Battery.

  • @nicoleibundgut534
    @nicoleibundgut534 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really took my time to read in the battery world and even bought some books about it. I am not in fear of the battery cells on its own but rather the pack. A BMS that goes dead or sometimes just one cell that gets rising internal resistance and kills the hole module that way. I think heavy usage of batterys like Taxi's and long distance drivers don't really kill the battery but long usuage. Would like to know how many 2014 model S still have the first battery with no problems. I have had an 2014 model s but the battery was changed after 150tkm or 6 years usage in warrenty. So there was a new battery in it already.

  • @michaelcavalier8750
    @michaelcavalier8750 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just finished the one month trial of FSD after buying a new Model 3. I don't like it. There were too many times that the car slammed on the brakes and it slowed down way too much for my liking on slow turns. I had it set to normal at first and assertive later. I could be interested when it actually lives up to its name of "Full Self Driving" (i.e., no monitoring required).

    • @pauld3327
      @pauld3327 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was it v13 ?

  • @fsclips
    @fsclips 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If quick acceleration is making my batteries last longer, than mine should last 1000 years 😄 I have had my Tesla M3 Highland for a year now and I still love to launch it like a rocket

  • @kimallensmith
    @kimallensmith 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Acceleration "may actually" extend battery life.......I disagree. How? does it clean the plates? like in a lead acid battery? Please explain in more detail. Thank You

  • @BoyFindsTako
    @BoyFindsTako 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What caught my eye is the model 3 being discussed on muti stories on TH-cam having 500,000 to 600,000 miles and still running on the original battery. And what’s even more impressive is less that 10% loss of range with all those miles! Look it up, and I’m sure more videos to come on that topic.

  • @AB78
    @AB78 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I took delivery of my refresh M3 LR in March and I absolutely love this car!! I love the tech and minimalist design. I will only get a Tesla

  • @dadtunesatx6645
    @dadtunesatx6645 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for this episode, Ryan. I really appreciate the deeper dive into battery life and recycling.

  • @jimmypeach8838
    @jimmypeach8838 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    So do I buy a 3 now or wait?!

  • @coreym5072
    @coreym5072 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Weeks ago everyone was talking about blade batteries. Now aluminum batters. Now this 😂😂 can’t keep up. Only think holding me back is the 280 mile range.

  • @elite4916
    @elite4916 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    How about 800+ miles then im in...

  • @markmaugle4599
    @markmaugle4599 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The 5m mile battery would be useful in semi-trucks.

  • @FreedomFinanceFun
    @FreedomFinanceFun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those 5 million miles would do wonders for long term battery storage.

  • @gyuunyuu
    @gyuunyuu 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can we please get a shortcut icon for air recycling for when we drive through funk

  • @SmirkInvestigator
    @SmirkInvestigator วันที่ผ่านมา

    EV’s “butter is good for you” moment

  • @garyweisbrodt4440
    @garyweisbrodt4440 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So tell me, all these podcasts are a nice sunny dry places. The question that's on my mind is how do they do in Canada where it's winter conditions almost 6 months of the year? Will self driving cars ever be able to navigate snow covered roads and winter conditions?

  • @bg8017
    @bg8017 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it better to buy the discounted Tesla and use the ev credit now or wait for the new long range battery. Just worried as the ev values are going down quickly.

  • @protorhinocerator142
    @protorhinocerator142 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Battery longevity is a huge factor. Most everyone dragging their feet names this as the reason.

  • @aleckermit
    @aleckermit วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic information delivery.

  • @davinci05131979
    @davinci05131979 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    how do you change a battery pack on a Cybertruck if the pack is part of the frame?

    • @edwcory
      @edwcory 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s bolted in. You unbolt it, disconnect wires and swap it. That’s pretty rare.

  • @lczspeed
    @lczspeed 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Model Y Juniper has been delayed for quite some time now since that name was originally discovered and put on TH-cam by various channels. It will be an exciting day when all the auto bloggers get invited to see the Juniper reveal, followed by overview and driving impressions.

  • @jomendoz13
    @jomendoz13 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any recommendations for 2018 Model 3 getting 214 miles at 80 percent. When I got the car it got 310 miles. I tried resetting the BMS, but no luck

    • @fearlessadventurer7137
      @fearlessadventurer7137 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m curious also. I also have a 2018 and getting 203 at 80%

  • @overdriver99
    @overdriver99 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    according to Toyota EV plan... in 2027 EV should be out with Solid state battery...?!?!? They claimed that Hydrogen powered car is the future.. now It looks like flop. then they still going for solid state battery in 2027... very very hard to believe what Toyota says about anything anymore.

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    There is an effort to disparage EVs that are not fair. For example they complain about the source of the cobalt but there was never any concern about the source of cobalt that is used to refine gas. That only started when they discovered it was used in EV batteries.

    • @gordon4385
      @gordon4385 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a question of scale: Lico3 batteries use about 100x more cobalt than oil refining.

    • @frankcoffey
      @frankcoffey 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gordon4385 You only have to make a battery once. ICE cars need gas for their entire life.

    • @frankcoffey
      @frankcoffey 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@gordon4385 You only have to make a battery once, ICE cars need gas their entire life. You get more than 100 charges out of a battery. Then you can recycle the cobalt.

    • @mavelous1763
      @mavelous1763 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I always enjoy how Ryan still doesn’t say anything about the destruction of American democracy because of oligarchs.
      I guess nothing matters except success in business and stock prices .
      It must be nice to just report on expense toys.

  • @HitDrip
    @HitDrip 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I love using FSD but it curved two of my rims 😢 now it's costing me $600 to fix both rims so I said the heck with it and just got all the rims colored in black

    • @ctuna2011
      @ctuna2011 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is why I only trust it to back in with no one else around.

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That happens when one fails to control the vehicle, while they are the human in charge of the machine.

    • @HitDrip
      @HitDrip 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dvader3263huh? You're not making any sense
      You can't use FSD without paying attention. Let me guess you're one of those people that make comments on something you don't own.
      I'm sure you'll respond with.. I have multiple Tesla cars blah blah blah 😂

    • @HitDrip
      @HitDrip 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ctuna2011 That's the sad thing. There was no cars around. It was early in the morning like 7:00 a.m. turning into Starbucks and it hit the curve smh

    • @kungfoochicken08
      @kungfoochicken08 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@HitDripThey need to start collecting demographic data on drivers before they integrate their driving data into FSD’s machine learning. I suspect the curbed rims comes from relying too heavily on data from female drivers.

  • @marklaffey7972
    @marklaffey7972 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would have to say they have already hit that tipping point I can remember needing to replace a four-cylinder engine in a Saturn vehicle and they wanted $8500 to do that. I think a new battery for that small vehicle would be less.

  • @bad50
    @bad50 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wish they could make a model y with 400-500 miles of range. And no, I dont wanna hear I dont need that much range. Lots of rural areas do not have fast charging. Less stops on long trips.

    • @DeepPockets_
      @DeepPockets_ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I live in the suburbs, nearest SC is about 20min from my home. 4-500 mile range would be perfect. Home charger is getting installed soon

    • @michaels7984
      @michaels7984 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      For some reason a lot of people don't seem to understand that different people have different needs from their cars. The only reason I don't have a tesla is because the range isn't enough for my needs and no supercharger on the route where I would actually need it. If you could get 300+ miles with realistic driving, it would be different.

    • @snoogmzsnoogmz4435
      @snoogmzsnoogmz4435 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      When people say you don’t need that range I think it’s the dumbest thing in the world. We need at least 500 miles of range!

    • @bad50
      @bad50 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaels7984 that's why I don't have a cyber truck. I bought the Silverado EV with 450.miles of range. Actually will get 450 or really close with decent weather. Winter weather is about 15-20% less.

  • @weich1q2w
    @weich1q2w 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okay so I got a simple question: So if the battery can last effectively 5 mil miles, what’s the charge density, pack density, charging curve, and thermal performance in particularly cold environments? If it can last 5 mil miles in the lab but real world it’s shit at charging and bad in cold weather than it’s pretty much useless

  • @yoji8130
    @yoji8130 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    also with the holiday update you get more range.. i got 2 extra miles

  • @ctuna2011
    @ctuna2011 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    What I want is 100 miles more range.

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thats doable with a bigger battery and more efficient motors, but at what cost? Oh, and more range = Bigger battery that will still degrade.

    • @kungfoochicken08
      @kungfoochicken08 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      How long have you had an EV? Range anxiety isn’t really an issue with Teslas.
      Unless you’re routinely driving 200+ miles a day, I don’t really see the need for more range. If you’re actually driving 4 hours a day, an EV probably isn’t the right vehicle for you.

    • @CitAllHearItAll
      @CitAllHearItAll 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The 2024 M3 LR RWD and AWD has been proven to give more than the rated range by 25 miles. Meaning the rated miles is accurate since you don't want to dip too low. 60 more miles than previous gen.

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kungfoochicken08 since my first Model S in 2012 and every year since then, so that makes it a full 12 years. Batteries can, do and will degrade. Don't be daft.

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kungfoochicken08 tell that to the guy who takes frequent road trips, some of which DO not have a Tesla SC on route.

  • @ElMistroFeroz
    @ElMistroFeroz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @10:07 - "Prices on replacements are coming down on a major way"
    Sources please?
    Asking because prices have been coming down sharply in the past decade, yet it's not reflected in any way on replacement estimates from Tesla.

  • @caydeboss
    @caydeboss 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lol Ryan is your Tesla’s named Eevee?🤣🤣 when you get the next generation Tesla, you could name it Jolteon⚡️

  • @macrumpton
    @macrumpton 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if the 8 year battery warrantys are valid on used vehicles? If I buy a 4 year old used Tesla, do I still have 4 years of warranty?

    • @michaelcavalier8750
      @michaelcavalier8750 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I looked up that information. The answer appears to be that you will get the remainder of the battery warranty. I also checked the replacement cost. It appears to be about $16,000 including installation.

  • @TheRealmfc90125
    @TheRealmfc90125 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My concerns haven’t changed: our nation’s changing system is woefully underfunded, potential EV drivers still have range anxiety., and Trump wants to kill the EV incentives. We need a 500-mile battery, otherwise people will continue to buy hybrids. I do like that batteries are lasting longer, although I have concerns about my 2021 Y battery not living up to these claims. Great content as always Ryan!

  • @functionalvanconversion4284
    @functionalvanconversion4284 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gosh it's getting annoying not owning one of these after driving one of these for work. 2025 is the year for me🤞

  • @andregant9980
    @andregant9980 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @10:43 - the Limited Warranty Chart: It is just me or is the warranty underwhelming? 8 years or 150K mi for Model S/X/Cybertuck. 8yr/120K mi for Model 3, and Y. Don't get me wrong, I still want a Tesla. I heard these batteries should last 300K-500K. Why isn't the warranty coverage beyond 120K and 150K respectively?

  • @bills6946
    @bills6946 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is Tesla still working on the sodium ion battery? I read that sodium ion is more powerful, cheaper, longer range and no risk of fire.

  • @ronaldlenz5745
    @ronaldlenz5745 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent episode.

  • @ruirodtube
    @ruirodtube 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    11:00 30% range loss over 8 years? That’s a lot!

  • @FutureSystem738
    @FutureSystem738 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Over 5 years with our M3P- one thing I can say is I’ll NEVER buy ICE again. Our M3P has been, and continues to be absolutely fabulous.
    Our second car is ICE, but will soon be replaced with another Tesla, hopefully a Cybertruck.

  • @OweEyeSea
    @OweEyeSea 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can't make the assumption that a technology in the R&D phase is "New Tesla Battery Upgrade Coming". Even with very positive results during research most potential technologies never make it to the mass production phase. And if they do, it's a 5-10 year journey to get there. It's very rare to have something jump to mass production in a short amount of time.

  • @barttemolder3405
    @barttemolder3405 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This battery breakthrough will have massive implications, not just for cars but also for ships. Ships would need batteries that take up 15-25% of cargo space for long distance shipping, but the fact that the battery will last forever and the fuel will be much cheaper than fossil fuel still make it viable.

    • @jkoonce4244
      @jkoonce4244 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah brah

  • @cantwheelie525
    @cantwheelie525 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video man.

  • @ajeekarateb
    @ajeekarateb 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Will they ever bring new model s or model x?

  • @pdabrow44
    @pdabrow44 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The legal responsibility when using the Summon feature in a Tesla primarily depends on the jurisdiction and specific circumstances of the incident. However, here are the general principles that guide responsibility, especially for insurance purposes:
    1. The Vehicle Owner/Driver
    Primary Responsibility: The person operating the Tesla Summon feature via their app or key fob is typically responsible for the vehicle's actions, as they are considered the operator, even though they are not physically in the driver's seat.
    Reason: Summon is classified as an advanced driver-assistance feature, but it still requires the user's supervision and manual initiation. This makes the user legally liable for any damages or accidents that occur during its use.
    Insurance Coverage: Any damages caused by the Summon feature would usually fall under the vehicle owner's insurance policy, specifically their liability or collision coverage.
    In summary, the driver/vehicle owner is typically legally responsible for the Tesla's actions while using Summon

  • @ademb
    @ademb 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    My brother has a model y and recently had a little accident. He was in slow moving traffic and got distracted and bumped into the car infront of him. I’m still shocked that a car with so much tech would still allow you to bump into a car infront of you and not auto stop just because you don’t have any type of fsd turned on.

    • @Ryan-ff2db
      @Ryan-ff2db 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's because it was slow moving. This is the same with all modern vehicles. Had the same thing happen in a Citroen I rented in Scotland in February. It locked everything up aggressively at high speeds but at low speeds you could coast right in the back of someone.

    •  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      You probably wouldn't want a car that would slam on your brakes 1 meter away from a car in front of you if you just wanted to park. While moving slowly, it doesn't know if you are parking or moving in traffic. And yea, with all the AI, cameras, observing the behavior of other cars (moving/stationary) I suppose it could tell a difference, but I have had some overly cautious front collision warning systems and they are pain in the rear. Tesla will prevent you having a bad accident while moving fast, but it is not dumb proof.

    • @MiteshDamania
      @MiteshDamania 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's silly to have the bumper touch other objects. I am with you on this one. Whats the point of having a collision detect system?

    • @Ryan-ff2db
      @Ryan-ff2db 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@MiteshDamania If your using FSD it won't. If your driving slow in standard driving mode then it's on you. All cars are this way, not just Tesla.

    • @lex-jimm6371
      @lex-jimm6371 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At 16:29 the image changes to a red Tesla on a suburban road. What appears a couple seconds later on the top of the image ?
      Swimming Pool in the shape of a car logo ? -/-

  • @diraziz396
    @diraziz396 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Batteries of the Cars will become a part of the Power grid. Free Radical of sorts. Tempo Players. Thanks R.S.

  • @Furyswipes
    @Furyswipes 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Elon does not know how much electricity costs for the average person. This was a shock to me. Not-so-Fun fact: It is more expensive to drive an EV than a Hybrid in 2024. I own both. The math ain't mathin'. We must bring down the cost of electricity immediately.

  • @crm114.
    @crm114. 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Toyota’s mythical super EVs thats are always 2 years into the future.

    • @jeremyhelbing
      @jeremyhelbing 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Whenever someone mentions Toyota's mythical battery that is coming I tell them I will believe it when they actually release it.

  • @dbcards4261
    @dbcards4261 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Shout out to the Researchers at Dalhousie. Halifax NS Canada paving the way.

  • @macgreiner
    @macgreiner 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Live the information Ryan, but man, that B-roll is getting a bit tired.

  • @GOLFandWRX
    @GOLFandWRX 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It doesn’t do any single user any good talking about the “average” life of a battery being 200K miles, because what if I’m not in the top 50% and will get less than 200K miles? I am just out of luck. Please increase the warranty, to cover the 200K miles, so I have some piece of mind buying a used Tesla.

  • @GrumpyWolfTech
    @GrumpyWolfTech 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a new Model 3 owner, and I enjoy my car and definitely am not a ev detractor, but this continued lie that they aren't as bad for the environment needs to stop. Where do you think your EV gets it's power? The biggest source is burning coal. Also I like my Tesla, but I miss having the range of a hybrid, which is why I keep my prius. If there were more hybrids that had the power of a tesla I would stick with a hybrid.

  • @misterx280
    @misterx280 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    im curious to know if a garage kept EV has less battery degradation then a non-garage kept EV.

    • @jkoonce4244
      @jkoonce4244 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A tesla battery maintains a safe temp so outside Will require more frequent charging so obviously it does not last as long as a climate controlled garage but what is 10 cycles in the life of 3000 cycles

    • @oneslackr
      @oneslackr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jkoonce4244 : Though most homes don't have a climate controlled garage so how much difference does outside vs in a garage really make?

  • @anthonyinnocente417
    @anthonyinnocente417 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey quick question. If law says that ev manufacturers have it warranty their batteries to 80% degradation. Why does Tesla warranty it to 70%

    • @michaelcavalier8750
      @michaelcavalier8750 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is no Federal law for battery capacity (degradation). There is a Federal law for defects, which I take to mean a total failure. After 5 years on my 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid, I had 84% loss. Honda had no battery capacity warranty. The dealer said that my nearly dead battery was not covered under the defects warranty.

  • @pigmen11
    @pigmen11 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    8:45 WOW…. A camera that lasts 180 days but yet my Tesla wastes sooo much battery on sentry mode💀 they really have to optimize it!

  • @vevenaneathna
    @vevenaneathna 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lifepo4 batteries wholesale cost ~40$/kwh delivered. thats more for grid storage side of the market, but just kind of blows peoples mind once they realize how overpriced most commercial lifepo4 batteries are due to markup. like the tesla powerwall 3 only costs a few hundred dollers if you build one yourself, not counting an inverter which has also come way down in price.

  • @capslock9031
    @capslock9031 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You have a really funny head. (Also, I like your thinking and content.)

  • @uzz32carl
    @uzz32carl 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    With electric batteries becoming increasingly efficient, wouldn’t be surprised if a new (possibly Chinese) aircraft manufacturer blindsides Airbus and Boeing, just like Tesla and BYD are taking out legacy car makers

  • @arleneallen8809
    @arleneallen8809 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Battery longevity seems more complex than we previously thought. I've driven EVs full time since 2008, and in recent years have wondered why I don't see the battery degradation regardless of manufacturer, although mostly Tesla. I live on a steep hill, and it occurred to me that every time I leave the house I coast down hill about 1/2 mile which warms the battery slightly. No science whatsoever, but it might be that little boost of charging prior to any drive might be good for the battery life. As far as Toyota is concerned, I'm now at the point where I don't believe a single thing they say. Way too many years of Akio nonsense and gaslighting.

  • @fjalics
    @fjalics 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can see people going back to a gas car...if they don't have a convenient place to charge. I have 2 chargers in my garage. Very convenient.

  • @nick-dogg
    @nick-dogg วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t know if all these comments are Tesla investors, but I get the opposite response from the Tesla owners I talked to. They eventually ended up trading in their Tesla.

  • @Resist4
    @Resist4 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, Tesla does warranty the battery but they don't have to replace it with a new battery and the replacement won't have a warranty.

  • @astrohgamingZero
    @astrohgamingZero 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There’s a video on out of spec reviewing a cheap used Tesla. 84% battery after 3 years. No easy gotcha’s except it living in Arizona heat.

  • @markt2407
    @markt2407 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't trust tesla range and battery quality.
    My 2023 model y battery degradation was over 13%. My full range went down from 303 to 263,and tesla Service Center said it is normal.

    • @bad50
      @bad50 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      prob needs to be recalibrated

    • @markt2407
      @markt2407 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @bad50 they did not try to do anything they just said it is normal

  • @spaghetti_monster
    @spaghetti_monster 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I own a self-driving car, do I need a license anymore? Lol no steering wheel hahaha that's so !@#$ed to imagine. I'm all in! Can I let my driver's license expire?

    • @Ryan-ff2db
      @Ryan-ff2db 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If the government can find another way for revenue generation perhaps. California alone brings in $9 billion annually in revenue from traffic fines. I imagine if they get the AI working properly that's going to be a big hole in the already poorly run budget. It's all about the money, like always.

    • @andrewshields986
      @andrewshields986 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was thinking this same thing last month!

  • @BlackhawkPilot
    @BlackhawkPilot 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    $300 - $400 I wish. Closer to $1000 for a new key.

  • @wj9494
    @wj9494 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5 million mile battery! What is the warranty now? (Hint : it’s still the federal minimum). If you want to convince me the battery pack will last, don’t talk about it, change the warranty.

  • @twostate7822
    @twostate7822 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    18:31 Toyota is backsliding on their solid state batteries, now delayed until 2027-28. For the past year plus they have been sending out press releases saying that they would be producing them starting in 2026. They were also promising 745 mile (1,200 km) range, but that's now delayed some time later than 2028 with no actual date specified.
    Toyota was recently claiming they got it right on EVs. Except for unproven promises, they have done close to the minimum.

  • @philliponfri7938
    @philliponfri7938 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So nice to hear that metals are being recycled. What about the lythium? Where is that going?

  • @dougmanck4149
    @dougmanck4149 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do any Tesla owners just drive their car and listen to the radio like I do with my current car?

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What will be interesting is when there are aftermarket battery packs available and even upgrade packs with higher density and range. There are some in Europe for the Nissan Leaf but I don't know of any in the US.

    • @michaelcavalier8750
      @michaelcavalier8750 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe some day, but I would not bet any money on it. I sold my 2018 Chevrolet Volt a couple of months ago. It was down to 76% of its original capacity. Chevrolet is not making these batteries any more and no one else is. The best that you can do when your Chevy Volt battery wears out is getting a refurbished battery (no new batteries, just ones that are not too worn out yet). For the Volt, that refurbished battery was $8,000 and required and additional $4,000 for installation.

  • @thumper1747
    @thumper1747 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hey Ryan, oil refineries use as much electricity as a small city - daily! Then think of the heavy, polluting road transport required to keep hundreds of thousands or petrol/gas stations full on a weekly basis and electricity seems more efficient to me. I’ve owned 19 ICE BMWs inc a 740 sport with 4.4 V8 and I loved it, but after 45 years of life, children and driving, I sat in an i3 and saw the future. It was a personal realisation based on years of loving cars on the one hand and becoming increasingly concerned about air quality, especially where children walk or wait before and after school. My twentieth Beemer was an i3 and I loved its originality and innovation. I charge it at home and it does 4.5 miles per kWh. I just don’t understand why everybody can’t see the progress we’ve made (collective as owner drivers and those designing and building the cars. Musk has done exactly what he said he’d do (speed up the transition) and given time, battery tech, charge and discharge rates, storage and grid democratisation will transform life for society. Excellent video. Geoff

    • @jkoonce4244
      @jkoonce4244 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too right 👍

  • @513eis
    @513eis 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Any rumors that the car key will be on Android watches? ...hoping

  • @tonystorcke
    @tonystorcke วันที่ผ่านมา

    According to chat gpt, this will happen by 2032. It will be cheaper to replace an EV battery than a car engine.

  • @factchecker9358
    @factchecker9358 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ll wait for some company to “invent” beige interiors for EVs.