I totally agree with you. A parliamentarian make about 2 1000$ a month and the former president make about 680 000 a month folks are out of touch down there
SANDF acting as private security for the politically connected mining interests. We pay taxes - SANDF stand guard - ministers makes millions from their interests and saving millions that would be spent on private security for the mines.
Which Country is supplying the weapons that killed our South African Troops?.................. Most people know that South Africa's internal defense force does not have the fighting tools because most of their weapons of war are broken and out of service because there is NO MONEY! Bring our soldiers back home so that they can protect US!
Imagine what would happen with open borders, zero 0% BMA free movement of M23/Taliban/Boko haram etc Nna open boarder won't work these guys they will overthrow S.A government
People who are against sending soldiers there...are those who sees nothing positive done by government. And in their little minds...South Africa would never need any help from any country ir such things happening in our neighboring countries. Would never here...we don't live in vacuum. South Africa would benefit If we play our part and helping to stabilize and gave peace in DRC...we would not have immigrants coming here looking for better life. Not forgetting that...we were assisted by some countries to get our freedom roday. Yes it's unfortunate our soldiers are casualties in process and we feel for them and their families But we need to help our neighbors whenever we can
DRC isn't a neighbor, so your entire point falls flat. Nobody is protesting the deployment in Mozambique, because that conflict could spill over into SA. But why the hell is SA providing most of the troops in DRC, when their neighbors refuse to. Let's also not forget, DRC kicked out the UN. So they are still picky about which blood sacrifice they are willing to accept. If SA was a military powerhouse, capable of bombing the crap out of the rebels with minimal casualties, fair enough. But we sending our troops woefully unequipped, like lambs to the slaughter, for a war that has no end, and is far away from us...yet the ANC has the nerve to criticize the US for foreign intervention, yet we do the same, but can't even do that properly
@@CrackerBarrelKid551 it's obvious you are just talking and saying things without any information. One of people who enjoys blaming government especially ANC as you mentioned, without looking for facts but to blame them so make them look worst. DRC is part of SADC and must get help from it's members whenever it needs their help. Go back and learn more about SADC members and stop mentioning USA because is not a heaven, were everybody who die as saints would go to. And everybody is in good terms with USA or is forced to dance to their tunes Not all of their enemies are supposed to be our enemies, South Africa is a sovereign state have its own laws rules and guidelines to follow. Some countries especially foreign influences, have hand in destabilizing DRC for their benefits to steal their minerals So they asked South Africa and other SADC members to help them to stabilize their country, do l really have to say more? But you were supposed to know these or searched for information before you blame president Ramaphosa for deploying soldiers in DRC but you'd still bave reasons to disagree with his decisions. Because you always don't see anything good he does. South Africa in Africa and would help from other Africans in future, like it did in the past Nobody can predict what future holds for us
@@CrackerBarrelKid551 South Africa is not in Europe or America but in Africa You and other people may not like decisions president Ramaphosa takes but even he doesn't take any action you always find a way to blame him He would never be right in your eyes and the oppositions, but his Commander In Chief right now not Malema or anyone else. And he's not going to take decisions that we all like or agree with him
@@LimpopoWagner I'm not arguing with you or anyone but stating facts, but if you feel you have better and good than me to explanation. Feel free to give me your good broader version. But what you can't change is that, DRC is part of SADC members. And most soldiers deployed there are part of the problem destabilizing it to loot their minerals That's why they've asked SANDF to come and assist them, but you can tell me better story you. You probably know better than the little l know
Great questions on the lack of capability of both the Congo and SA (that is bravely trying to help). African countries need to be able to help each other. Why are they not spending more money on their military?
Why is the SANDF there in the first place? Ah... some politically connected like ministers must have some mining interests over there so the SANDF is used as private security - we pay the taxes to protect the private interests of the ruling class and they get pure profit because they don't have to pay for the security.
@@Trendingnewstubes There were many independent nations in South Africa - that was forced into one by the Globalists to form the "New South Africa". For the Globalist West, the Boer / Afrikaner nation is a danger because we created the economic powerhouse in Africa. With the current situation you are judged based on which side you are - one nation being the perpetual scapegoat to take the blame for the failings of all the others. How did we get independence? Twice war with the British Empire, then the forming of the Union of South Africa and then the Republic of South Africa. And then the Globalists / entire Liberal West and Communist world teamed up to force the creation of the current fiasco.
I thought Africa was the fastest economicaly advancing continent where everybody has huge intelligence, the people are all peaceful and love and respect each other and are all politicaly stable???
Question should be, how old are you and where have you been. Because there's war all over the world. Even America is not entirely stable so you can't imagine peacefu and stable Africa when the world is burning. No country can say it's safe from any conflict right now
@@sentsolebatla2512 I don't think the world is that bad but it's certainly not paradise either. Most of the world is actually peaceful. For instance when people hear about war in DRC, they think the whole country is affected! It's a mind game. Ukraine and Gaza is not the whole world either, though news reporters make you think it is
@@justafriend3408 you left Lebanon, Iran, Iraq and how many coupes have we witnessed recently. China Russia and North Korea they are all and many others not in good terms with USA And USA has deployed their soldiers all over their world DRC is complaining acuuses their neighbors Rwanda and Uganda of helping M23 rebels to instigating war to destabilize DRC for them to loot their minerals l can carry on and mention Nigeria and Cameroon and many others And most of people from all these unstable countries, come here in South Africa without any documentation that's why crime is so rife and main driver of our crimes and violence is mostly drugs related
What about the over 1000 newly arrived French mercenaries in Congo?? And what has the UN’s 30-year presence in Congo brought to the Congolese?? Who assassinated Patrice Lumumba and ever since Congo has been in a never-ending deadly chaos?
The M23 are not congo rebels, it's an extension of Rwanda nationale Army that occupied congo richest regions, they are supported by The USA , The UK , GERMANY , FRANCE , CANADA and others lately Polone joined the team
What makes u think Russia and china don't have interest in the minerals let me guess "oh Russia and china will never do that" they are our friends" 🤦♂️ survival of that fittest buddy
M23 are legal and they are Congolese tribe who most of them speak kinyarwanda, The PRESIDENT of DRC CONGO IS. COMMITTING A GENOCIDE AGAINST CONGOLESE WHO SPEAK KINYARWANDA ,THE SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THIS WAR AND NOT COMMIT A GENOCIDE IN DRC ,DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO SANDF
Yet another failed SOE (Denel) to blame? Why are they not just listing Denel on the JSE to allow for more scrutiny and private capital/expertise to rescue it?
Are you kidding me, useless kdf. M23 took swathe of territory while they were there and this is why M23 was with 20km of Goma. Kdf was there to steal mminerals😂
Those Rwandese please u need to understand the situation. Since RDC decided to stop Kagame to still Congo kagame decided to fight because Kigali can’t survive without DRC Congo. So don’t say levels here , it’s Rwanda with Kagame supported with white , DRC has become European colony through Kagame agent. We need to stop Kagame behaviour .
South Africa can't even defend our own boarders, what do they think they can achieve in the DRC?? 🤔 🤔 🤔
Ahhhh😂
DRC with it's vast wealth in minerals should be able to foot the bill
I totally agree with you. A parliamentarian make about 2 1000$ a month and the former president make about 680 000 a month folks are out of touch down there
These folks have been in the Congo for 25 years and they thwarted attacks by m23 in 2013. Why would they have to lose?
Who puts boots on the ground without owning the sky first??
south africa
ANC
Your father😂
Tintswalo’s Dad and his personal interests 💰
Rwanda
What is South Africa gaining in protecting DRC
Minerals
@@africaine4889 those minerals are they benefiting the country or elite politicians
SANDF acting as private security for the politically connected mining interests.
We pay taxes - SANDF stand guard - ministers makes millions from their interests and saving millions that would be spent on private security for the mines.
What did Zimbabwe, Zambia, Angola, DRC, Nigeria etc...gain when they were helping the ANC during the struggle against apartheid?
@@isrbillmeyer unbelievable
This is unnecessary deployment
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Which Country is supplying the weapons that killed our South African Troops?.................. Most people know that South Africa's internal defense force does not have the fighting tools because most of their weapons of war are broken and out of service because there is NO MONEY! Bring our soldiers back home so that they can protect US!
Kak
Can’t agree more
Imagine what would happen with open borders, zero 0% BMA free movement of M23/Taliban/Boko haram etc Nna open boarder won't work these guys they will overthrow S.A government
People who are against sending soldiers there...are those who sees nothing positive done by government. And in their little minds...South Africa would never need any help from any country ir such things happening in our neighboring countries. Would never here...we don't live in vacuum. South Africa would benefit If we play our part and helping to stabilize and gave peace in DRC...we would not have immigrants coming here looking for better life.
Not forgetting that...we were assisted by some countries to get our freedom roday. Yes it's unfortunate our soldiers are casualties in process and we feel for them and their families
But we need to help our neighbors whenever we can
DRC isn't a neighbor, so your entire point falls flat. Nobody is protesting the deployment in Mozambique, because that conflict could spill over into SA. But why the hell is SA providing most of the troops in DRC, when their neighbors refuse to. Let's also not forget, DRC kicked out the UN. So they are still picky about which blood sacrifice they are willing to accept.
If SA was a military powerhouse, capable of bombing the crap out of the rebels with minimal casualties, fair enough. But we sending our troops woefully unequipped, like lambs to the slaughter, for a war that has no end, and is far away from us...yet the ANC has the nerve to criticize the US for foreign intervention, yet we do the same, but can't even do that properly
@@CrackerBarrelKid551 it's obvious you are just talking and saying things without any information. One of people who enjoys blaming government especially ANC as you mentioned, without looking for facts but to blame them so make them look worst. DRC is part of SADC and must get help from it's members whenever it needs their help. Go back and learn more about SADC members and stop mentioning USA because is not a heaven, were everybody who die as saints would go to.
And everybody is in good terms with USA or is forced to dance to their tunes
Not all of their enemies are supposed to be our enemies, South Africa is a sovereign state have its own laws rules and guidelines to follow. Some countries especially foreign influences, have hand in destabilizing DRC for their benefits to steal their minerals
So they asked South Africa and other SADC members to help them to stabilize their country, do l really have to say more? But you were supposed to know these or searched for information before you blame president Ramaphosa for deploying soldiers in DRC but you'd still bave reasons to disagree with his decisions. Because you always don't see anything good he does. South Africa in Africa and would help from other Africans in future, like it did in the past
Nobody can predict what future holds for us
@@CrackerBarrelKid551 South Africa is not in Europe or America but in Africa
You and other people may not like decisions president Ramaphosa takes but even he doesn't take any action you always find a way to blame him
He would never be right in your eyes and the oppositions, but his Commander In Chief right now not Malema or anyone else. And he's not going to take decisions that we all like or agree with him
@@sentsolebatla2512 Yes, you argue like a short sigted resident of Africa 👍
@@LimpopoWagner I'm not arguing with you or anyone but stating facts, but if you feel you have better and good than me to explanation. Feel free to give me your good broader version. But what you can't change is that, DRC is part of SADC members. And most soldiers deployed there are part of the problem destabilizing it to loot their minerals
That's why they've asked SANDF to come and assist them, but you can tell me better story you. You probably know better than the little l know
Is south Africa prepared for that? 😮
They were died while fighting..
They were in front line
Not in the CAMP..
Do you think everyone is stupid,😳😳🤔
Great questions on the lack of capability of both the Congo and SA (that is bravely trying to help). African countries need to be able to help each other. Why are they not spending more money on their military?
Their economy has probably been looted to its bare minimum by its own politicians ......like the rest of africa
Why was their a peace deal last time.
Send the EFF 😂😂
😳😳👍👌
EFF ground forces ne
The Commander in Chief 😂
Paul kagame is criminal #don't support criminal #justice #justice
Be quiet.😅 i love you
Go tell FDLR 😂
Paul kagame is criminal #justice for Congolese
True ,Kagame is a killer and west puppet
Ask malema why is this happening he got the answer for you
Whyyyat peephol!
Why is the SANDF there in the first place?
Ah... some politically connected like ministers must have some mining interests over there so the SANDF is used as private security - we pay the taxes to protect the private interests of the ruling class and they get pure profit because they don't have to pay for the security.
How did SA gained independence in the first place
@@Trendingnewstubes There were many independent nations in South Africa - that was forced into one by the Globalists to form the "New South Africa". For the Globalist West, the Boer / Afrikaner nation is a danger because we created the economic powerhouse in Africa. With the current situation you are judged based on which side you are - one nation being the perpetual scapegoat to take the blame for the failings of all the others.
How did we get independence? Twice war with the British Empire, then the forming of the Union of South Africa and then the Republic of South Africa. And then the Globalists / entire Liberal West and Communist world teamed up to force the creation of the current fiasco.
Makes no sense why SA troops are in Congo. Why not fight the criminals in our country?
@@JosephMoosa Because the SANDF is not allowed to arrest Parliament
I thought Africa was the fastest economicaly advancing continent where everybody has huge intelligence, the people are all peaceful and love and respect each other and are all politicaly stable???
Then think less.
Question should be, how old are you and where have you been. Because there's war all over the world. Even America is not entirely stable so you can't imagine peacefu and stable Africa when the world is burning. No country can say it's safe from any conflict right now
@@sentsolebatla2512 I don't think the world is that bad but it's certainly not paradise either. Most of the world is actually peaceful. For instance when people hear about war in DRC, they think the whole country is affected! It's a mind game. Ukraine and Gaza is not the whole world either, though news reporters make you think it is
@@justafriend3408 you left Lebanon, Iran, Iraq and how many coupes have we witnessed recently. China Russia and North Korea they are all and many others not in good terms with USA
And USA has deployed their soldiers all over their world
DRC is complaining acuuses their neighbors Rwanda and Uganda of helping M23 rebels to instigating war to destabilize DRC for them to loot their minerals l can carry on and mention Nigeria and Cameroon and many others
And most of people from all these unstable countries, come here in South Africa without any documentation that's why crime is so rife and main driver of our crimes and violence is mostly drugs related
I think these tribesmen at the 21st century shows the level of Africans
What about the over 1000 newly arrived French mercenaries in Congo?? And what has the UN’s 30-year presence in Congo brought to the Congolese?? Who assassinated Patrice Lumumba and ever since Congo has been in a never-ending deadly chaos?
Back kenya in drc and all will be well
If they can't help... Russia and China said they are more than willing to step in, the question is where are the rebels getting weapons from
Rwanda
Russia and china
@@thabisopharoo5605"China and Russia is our allies" ANC circa 2024
The M23 are not congo rebels, it's an extension of Rwanda nationale Army that occupied congo richest regions, they are supported by The USA , The UK , GERMANY , FRANCE , CANADA and others lately Polone joined the team
What makes u think Russia and china don't have interest in the minerals let me guess "oh Russia and china will never do that" they are our friends" 🤦♂️ survival of that fittest buddy
SANDF is part of Sadec mission but dangerous, that being said, let's stand behind our Commander in Chief President Ramaphosa.
This problem is to engage the kinyarwandas ,
M23 are legal and they are Congolese tribe who most of them speak kinyarwanda, The PRESIDENT of DRC CONGO IS. COMMITTING A GENOCIDE AGAINST CONGOLESE WHO SPEAK KINYARWANDA ,THE SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THIS WAR AND NOT COMMIT A GENOCIDE IN DRC ,DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO SANDF
ask Russia and China for back up
They won't, those rebels are notoriously dangerous
Yet another failed SOE (Denel) to blame? Why are they not just listing Denel on the JSE to allow for more scrutiny and private capital/expertise to rescue it?
Kenya troops were doing better now see what is happening now
Are you kidding me, useless kdf. M23 took swathe of territory while they were there and this is why M23 was with 20km of Goma. Kdf was there to steal mminerals😂
Kenyans are Nilotes ,just like the tutsis
Kenya troop were the traitor and supporting m23
South africa .withdraw your soldiers to minimize risks on your side.privilege dialogue please
Stop stop stop tribalism about m23/tutsi people
This guy is misinformed about M23
Home government of DRC got much at stake to sit down and make an agreement with its citizens. Otherwise for S.A 2013 its not 2024
Those Rwandese please u need to understand the situation. Since RDC decided to stop Kagame to still Congo kagame decided to fight because Kigali can’t survive without DRC Congo. So don’t say levels here , it’s Rwanda with Kagame supported with white , DRC has become European colony through Kagame agent. We need to stop Kagame behaviour .
you meant steal@@KC-wj7yh
Propaganda bs
Kunguru atapigwa tu
All the negative comments here came from rwandese
Interahamwe gusa. Mwari mwizeye intsinzi Kuri SADEC none muramwaye