I've never noticed that Cleen had teary eyes the entire time. This really hit him hard. Glad he was able to get the title of Ink Master later. And, let's be honest, he's a marvelous artist.
His attitude alone shines like the sun! Have you noticed every freaking time he is pumped about LITERALLY anything to do in challenges, tattoos and placement? The guy is so great !!
What a fucking joke that Cleen never got the title. He tattooed circles around everyone throughout the entire show. The fact they didn't get to choose their final back piece was straight up bullshit. If you are able to make it all the way to the finale then you've already proved yourself. This "meeting the challenge" should be thrown out the window in the finale, they have earned the right to pick the style of tattoo that's gonna win them a hundred grand. Especially Cleen, dude kills it week after week and then he doesn't even get to pick his final piece? Fuck that. If they had gotten to choose their piece Cleen would of mopped the floor with them like he did all season long. I'd feel robbed. Jason Ink master? Even Erik was better than him. What a joke.
And he dropped the ball on the most important tattoo...... He fumbled it COMPLETELY... and he still would've won even after fumbling this hard if Jason didn't just ABSOLUTELY FUCKIN KILL IT! Jason fuckin knocked it so far out of the park past anything clean did the entire show it would've been a fuckin shame had he lost on that master canvas....
Wow. Cleen was obviously the best in this season next to Josh Hibbard. I'm godsmacked at this decision. Wow. guess you can just skate by and produce medium quality tattoos and still become Ink Master. Damn Cleen must be pissed.
@@richardtorres9581 that would be a good excuse if Cleen hadn’t lost to Anthony on a later season after he did the challenge and Anthony did not. Dave was the only one to point it out
These are the worst judges. Season 3 they allowed Tatu Baby in the final 3. When she was consistently at the bottom to middle of the pack. Several times she did not finish, messed up her lines, or did a horrible job. Yet they allowed her to go to the finals.
did you not see their master canvas tats? Cleen fuckin droppe the ball then fell on his tattoo machine trying to pick it up, and Jason fuck Mark Mcguired the ball so far out of the stadium it went into another state. Even Jason did a better tattoo than cleen, cleen would've won... but he didn't do JUST a better tat... he did a FAR FAR FAR better tat.
I know this comment is probably 4 years late, but people dont be dumb. The instructions were clear. Cleen and Erik made Jason do New School, but they didnt follow the same instructions which was for them to do a color portrait. throught out this Ink Master show alot of people have not been following the instructions and im sure most of you have seen why. alot of people have been controversially sent home because of instructions. i had to watch this season again to understand Dave Navarro's mind set. that was a good call.
Rules were broken when they gave jason a second canvas where as other unfinished tats were judged regardless if the client walked out or not and jason should've been judged on his crappy unfinished canvas like the others were so how anybody can try to argue is beyond me but clean was robbed no doubt about it
This is a super late reply, just watched the season but this argument isn't really valid when they use the tattoo artist's "entire profolio," as an excuse to elimate, keep, and declare ink masters previous seasons and that season as well in ways. Show is a complete joke letting a mediocre artist that cries about their anxiety, and couldn't even beat their rival win. Smh.
@@ShatteredPieces26 ok what don't you get? Cleen didnt meet the challenge period. he messed up. This whole season I was saying theres no way he loses but then on the biggest stage he messes up. The tattoo didn't look good either, i was disappointed by it but Jason's was wayy better and he doesn't even do new school. This was Cleen's competition to lose and he fumbled the bag.
I still think Jason didn't deserve the win overall. Cleen was 100 percent the more consistent artist throughout and I also think his master canvas had a better tattoo
100% agree... Cleen was the better artist, but didn't do the challenge. Would have been BS had he won when Jason did a damn good new school tattoo. Cleen beat Cleen. Be mad at him lmao
If Josh had not been disqualified, Jason would have had the worst tattoo with his crooked Empire state building. I am rewatching the season at the moment..
Jason got lucky. The judges sometimes just don’t judge on the art alone they judge the person and they shouldn’t. I was surprised when Jason made it to the final 12 both seasons.
bro they literally judged it on the art.... Cleen dropped the ball... fumbled... fell on his face... And if Jason had just done a decent BETTER tattoo... cleen still would've won... but Jason knocked it so fuckin far out of the park the ball disappeared from view....
Come on. Jason struggles to find himself throughout both seasons and as his final tat he pulls off THAT masterpiece? The detail to colors the dimensions. Cleen is an amazing artist, but Jason just pulled out his best tattoo work when he had to. Hate on Jason all you want, his tat was amazing.
Exactly! Cleen was really good at banging out his best work in 6 hours.... However, his 35 hour tattoo was just that... his best work, only much larger... Jason showed that what we saw during the season wasn't even CLOSE to his best work... and when he was in his element at hom comfortable he fuckin SLAYED. To me this proves that Jason is simply the better artist.... Cleen is just better at busting out 6 hours tats at his own highest level. If Jason didn't knock it so far out of the park like he did, cleen would've won. If cleen did a worse tattoo than Jason, but made it color realism, he would've won... If cleen did a slightly worse tat than Jason, he would've won...... Cleen dropped the ball at the worst time, and jason fuckin KILLED at the best time. After revealing those master canvases, if cleen still won it would've been a fuckin TRAGEDY.
The most dissapointing finale ever!! Poor Cleen :( I think the judges weren't fair at all!! That's why they had to go through a whole competition? For the Ink Master to be chosen according to ONE tattoo?? What did Cleen work during all the competition for? For the first time Chris was my favorite judge... Oliver, you dissapointed me :(
***** bro its not a championship final, it is mastering the art of tattooing and cleen was the master of this art since the beginning of the season. You cant compare this competition with a Superbowl dude. Cleen worked his ass off the avoid nearly all the elimination and Jason was struggling. Its unfair.
***** I agree with you..but if the artist are judged on the basis of the current day's performance then the show should have named themselves Ink Championship. A master is simply the master of the art and i believe you agree with me that the actual master was Cleen. A guy who was struggling to keep up with the pace of the competition cannot be called a master. Yeah Jason can be called a champion but he is not an ink master because he lacks many skills in comparison to Cleen.
Richard Sawney Of course there is a point. If you look at previous seasons, the final two, (sometimes even the final four), were all very good artists who almost never were among the worst, and were praised by the judges week to week. In those cases, one tattoo CAN make a difference. If Cleen's rival in the finale were Josh or Erik, I could understand that they choose the winner based on the final tattoo. But this wasn't the case: no one that has watched the whole season would doubt that Cleen is, by far, a much better artist than Jason. Ink Master is supposed to be about choosing the best artist in the competition. Was Jason that artist? I don't think so.
itamaryhop Dave said most of that. He himself admitted that Cleen outperformed everyone. But Jason hit his challenge and the final tattoo HAS to matter at ALL times. It cant matter one time and then throw it out the window another time. There has to be some consistency.
This made me so mad!!! Cleen should have won!! Not only was he on the top of his game all season long, but he represents everything a true Ink Master should be. They need to be able to do any style, they need to be adaptable, able to handle any kind of client, and most of all, give the people a clean, badass tatoo that they will love. Jason is good, don't get me wrong, but he is no Ink Master. He was on the bottom to much, he doubted himself to much, and he can't handle everything that comes his way!! Jason is mediocre to me!! Cleen Rock One all the way!!! God bless him!!!
I am so glad to see that most comments are not in agreement with Dave. I feel that the title "Ink Master" should go to someone who can best MASTER the challenges thrown at them. Clean has been the most consistant throughout this season, and to throw out his whole body of work and base the final decision solely on the last challenge is a travesty. Jason was inconsistant all the way through, and happened to most meet the category of the final challenge, while still delivering a sub-par tattoo. To me that is NOT a MASTER. That is someone who got lucky. I also have to agree with an earlier comment that they should have been able to pick the subject matter and style of the final piece. This is where we should get to see them shine.
yes I agree..... an ink master should master the challenges given to them... Cleen dropped the ball at the worst time, and Jason SLAYED so completely and absolutely at the right time. The ONYL way Jason was going to win this was if he knocked it so far out of the park while cleen just absolutely bungled it, and that's what happened. I'll tell you what really happened though. Jason is simply a better artist.... But cleen was better at putting his best work out in 6 hours. His 35 hour tattoo had the same quality of any of his 6 hour tattoos only it was much larger so took more time..... Jason, on the other hand wasn't as consistent at putting out his best in 6 hours, but when he had the comfort of home, and the TIME he showed he was actually simply much better than cleen PERIOD.
I think the judging criteria is too inconsistent. Jamie in Season 2 eliminated despite being very consistent. Melissa Season 4 eliminated despite doing a better tattoo than Scott, because she hadn't won any challenges. Nick in Season 2 didn't get eliminated for not fitting a cover-up challenge criteria.
I met Jason while working Electronics at Target at Ontario Mills a few years ago. I had no idea who he was and wondered why everyone wanted to talk to him and take pictures. I had seen my fair share of interesting characters coming in to buy phone chargers, etc. He saw my tattoos on my bicep and we started talking about it and he was a really cool guy. I ended up selling him a Nintendo Switch with Mario Kart and then he slid me his card and I was like "oh you forgot this" he's like "that's for you, that's my card, you were really nice very helpful and should come by and have a beer with me and play Mario Kart sometime." and I was like "oh alright cool!" I looked up his name when I got home that day and was like "Wait A minute...I MET THIS GUY" I still have his card today. That's something I wont soon forget, you never know who you will meet anywhere!
Now that's some bullshit. Dude skims by all season long then does one good tat and the gets called the winner. This is not the Super Bowl. The are is what should determine the results and the final challenge should only add to the portfolio not determine it. This was first season i watched and Now I don't think I will watch the next season cuz the last tat is all that matters
i agree this is not the superbowl, however the judges contradict themselves... notice how in the first 2 seasons it was all about who was better throughout the competition.. and now they wanna make it seem like its about the final tattoo well in that case,, over turn the seas 1 decision cause tommy helms killed shanes tattoo an still lost, bunch of bull shit.
They made the right choice even though Cleen was better overall that season. What would be the point of the finale if they didn’t pick the best tattoo? There would be no stakes and everyone would know the winner beforehand.
Seriously can't apply sports finales to tattooing. An Ink Master is supposed to be an artist who can do it all. You can't determine "it all" from just one single finale tattoo - which is why this decision was bullshit. To some degree they need to factor in the report card - it should have some weight in the decision. Jason didn't prove he was ink master, he proved he can do new school with his finale piece - but what about all the other styles he fucked up throughout the competition? Cleen proved himself more, and was more consistent. .
this was the BEST decision ever made on ink master. After that master canvas, after Jason absolutely SLAYED that back piece while Cleen absolutely BUNGLED his..... and they STILL gave it to cleen... what the fuck would be the point of the live finale, or the 35 hour tat. The 35 hour tat shows who is ACTUALLY the better artist...... Cleen was good at putting his best work out in 6 hours... The quality of his 35 hour tattoo was exactly the same as the quality of his 6 hours tattoo's, only it was larger. Jason's 35 hour tattoo put the quality of ANY of Cleens tattoo's to fuckin SHAME.
Poetic Justice on full display. As a seemingly unshakable, confident too dog, he was smoking weed to calm his nerves every day. Meanwhile his rival that struggles with severe anxiety and panic attacks not only outlasts him, not only makes the finale, but wins the fan vote AND the whole thing. That’s freakin awesome.
Nuñez: What would be the point of having 2 tattooers making a big tattoo and participating in a final for 100k (with all the stress and illusion that represent for them) , when you as a jury won't care about the output of those tattoos? What is the point of having a final, if you will pick your winner before anyway? We all know that Cleen was the better through the competition, even Jason knows that!! You didn't discovered anything than a regular joe wouldn't. You can incline the balance for the best through the competition IF both tattoos presented in the finale respected the challenge to start with. Oliver and Dave got it.....this is a finale...period....not a final recapitulation of the entire season. Also you seem to favor guys that are similar to you some how. What is your problem with Sausage and Jason? they are not bully enough ...arrogant enough?
It's not like Jason's back piece blew everyone away, it was picked over the convenience of being on topic. It's strange to see Jason be crowned Ink Master when everyone knows he's not the best artist in that room, in fact you can make a case that he's not even one of the top 3 artists in that room. Remember, Joshua was the top dog till he was kicked out, and Jason barely squeezed by to make it to the final 3. I guess you can say Jason won the game, but he didn't prove he was thee Ink Master.
***** I agree with all what you say. Jason won the competition and at the same time is not more master at tattooing that Cleen or Josh. My rant is with Nuñez read my first comment. Why to have a finale if the judges already choose a winner? For me Cleen just dropped the ball the day he shouldn't. Just do a decent enough color realistic tattoo and you win! Unless he really couldn't do it, then he isn't that much of a master either (though yes, overall is the best of the season)
i think, they choose jason way before this vote, look at the last vote, they talk and seems like they are seeing how to make the show more interesting. my opinion
then got completely blown out of the water when it mattered the most. The problem was that cleen is simply not capable of drawing at a level that a 35 hour color realistic tattoo would require. He drew at the same level he had the entire competition.... He was really good at banging out his best work in 6 hours.... the issue that brings is the fact that Jasons best work could not be displayed in only 6 hours... This showed in the 35 hour tat. Cleen did a tat with the same quality as his 6 hour tats only larger. Jason came with the best quality we ever saw from him because he had time to show us that his capabilities exceeded Cleens given enough time. For example.... go on youtube and look up photo realistic pencil drawings.... You will see some people drawing pictures that you literally would not be able to tell weren't an ACTUAL photo..... Put one of these guys up against Cleen in a 6 hour drawing, cleen will probably win that battle and look like a genius.... Give that same person 200 hours, and give cleen 200 hours.... and you will see real quick, cleen simply doesn't have the ability to come close to drawing as good as them.... And that is what happened here. To me it's glaringly clear that this is what happened here.
Been rewatching old seasons of ink master and saw this finale a few minutes ago. So lame that a guy basically tattoos the frosted flakes tiger on someone's back and wins. Cleen is definitely top 3 to ever be on the show. He's consistent, does solid work and should've won this season too.
I still remember this. Cleen was the the better artist, Jason only won because they said Cleen didn't follow the rules or some shit. "The challenge has to matter" Chris knew. Dave and Oliver blew this one.
Jason didn’t deserve the win. Couldn’t beat his rival and had mediocre tattoos throughout the show. I’m baffled he made it to the finals and won with a ugly new school tattoo 🤷
I don't know how people are so upset over the decision. Was Clean better? Yes, but his finale tattoo did not meet the challenge, and if he had won on it, it would have been complete BS. They made the right call that night. Should have done color realism. Jason did new school, which was a style he's not used to.
EXACTLY... Jason losing on this master canvas would've been a FUCKIN TRAGEDY. He fuckin SLAYED IT while Cleen bungled it.... It was the only way cleen wasn't winning, and that's what happened.
Okay this is major contradiction this is how i know the judges are bogus... follow me now.. lets go back to seasons 1 and 2... they made it seem as though the guys winning consistently should take the crown... as ink master notice... first season it was shane o neil if we take what our host just said, he said its like the superbowl right... so if thats true then tommy helms should of been first ink master.... because he beat shane o neil on final contest an tommy did damn good in the competition... this is how i know this shit is fake and fixed... bullshit every season almost.
If that was the Superbowl of tattooing jason shouldn't have made the playoffs with his ugly dragon not to mention getting two canvases to work on they should of judged him on his unfinished canvas like they do every body else
@Kyle Dempster his tattoo was crappy and it was done to the point where you could judge and the design was crap the application was crap and he got another canvas and went with a whole different idea the second time cause his other idea was shit so quit trying to lie cause both his tattoos were crap and he shouldve been eliminated in a couple of rounds dude was trash and only won due to a technicality as opposed to being the ink master
it was beyond his ability.... This proved who the better artist was.... Clean was able to nail 6 hour tattoo's at his best quality, and it turned out that his 35 hour tattoo was at the same level of quality of his 6 hour tattoo's, only larger so it took up 35 hours. The quality of Jason's 35 hour tattoo put anything Cleen did to fuckin SHAME... it was absolutely no contest.... The only way Jason was winning this is if he knocked it out of the park, while at the same time cleen bungled it.... and that's what happened. The 35 hour tattoo was what ruined it for cleen.... when someone has 35 hours to draw something... the person who is the better artist will come out on top in that situation, and that is what happened... Cleen just wasn't as good as Jason.... Faster, yes.... Better at banging out high quality tattoo's in 6 hours consistently at his highest capability, YES..... But in a true test of skill, he showed that he's simply not capable of master level artistry..... It's actually quite the anomaly... but to me.... it's very clear.
Jason got lucky, period... Cleen should've won this hands down. Jason was always blaming is shortcomings on everything but him just not hitting the mark. If Joshua hadn't been disqualified, as much as an @ss as he was, JCD wouldn't have even made it to the finale. Cleen got robbed plain and simple
objectively wrong. He showed he has higher capability than cleen in that master canvas.... Why didn't clean meet the challenge? He wasn't capable of it.
Shameful, Cleen was the best tattoo artist throw the whole show. And James tattoos are mediocre the whole show. And he won the final. For me, and a lot of other people, Cleen is Ink Master in thuis final.
Didn’t match the challenge? Those socket wrenches look damn real. Jason was consistently garbage throughout the show and I lost so much respect for Dave and Oliver. Chris is literally the only one acting like a true judge. Cleen was robbed 100% by some mediocre fruitloop who thinks he’s good now.
Shoudav sent him home the Lazy two faced gnome...What were the public voting on, the feel sorry for him being bullied at school critique..I mean Cleen was in the top almost every challenge...piss poor judgement..
I thought the worst decision in Ink Master was in season 6. I can at least understand why Jason won. But I can't understand how kruseman won season 6. I mean he only won a flash challenge that didn't even have anything to do with tattooing and then picked his canvas and was immediately in the bottom. the finalists should have been Craig, Chris and Matt. Kruseman still had technical problems in his finale piece and the worse thing they said about Chris's is that the sky was to plain. However, I feel like in season 7 the right person won.
So here's the thing, I'm going to explain this to you guys, you can agree with me or not, but I'm right... so you should agree with me lol :P Cleen did a tat with the same quality as his 6 hour tats only larger. Jason came with the best quality we ever saw from him because he had time to show us that his capabilities exceeded Cleens given enough time. For example.... go on youtube and look up photo realistic pencil drawings.... You will see some people drawing pictures that you literally would not be able to tell weren't an ACTUAL photo..... Put one of these guys up against Cleen in a 6 hour drawing, cleen will probably win that battle 9/10 times.... Give that same person 200 hours, and give cleen 200 hours.... and you will see real quick, cleen simply doesn't have the ability to match up with them.... And THAT is what happened here. To me it's glaringly clear. He's simply not capable of color realism piece that large when put up against someone who is just better given enough time.
Did he said if he had to choose between one of the two to wear he would choose clean? And then go on to talk bout the superbowl nonsense tffffffffffff u obv like one better than the other if u would choose it to be put on u so how did the other dude win....
Cleen is awesome but Jason is such a great guy, too. He was so humble in both Seasons 4 and 5- even as a "rival"- his crap-talking was still pretty harmless. I'm glad he won- you could tell he really was his own worst critic. Cleen has gone onto multiple seasons of Ink Master (including the current one). I do hope he wins it this time around (Season 11)! But I'm really happy for Jason (as someone who goes back and binge watches all the old seasons!)
The only thing is earlier In the season dave liked chriss tattoo better but tried swaying nunez to kicking him off by saying really ink master-the guy who said he gave up before starting like 8 shows before? Americas vote probably pushed jason over the top, when it shouldnt happen at all because america just picked their fav guy aka jason plus he has a whole extra season of fans than cleen n eric, this point shows by how america chose jason before seeing his final tattoo. Thats a joke cleen was by far the best the whole time. And all 3 they said were good tattoos and all 3 had major problems. If americas vote counts thats cumlative, so the judges should be able to use the whole body of work plus the challenge plus am vote. The show 4-5 times had a challenge that there was a clear winner n loser then they added a random heads up new challenge and disregarded the original challenge aka mark getting booted. The whole show is contradictive and turning into big brother than a real competition show judging the best artist. Eric was better than Jason the whole time and cleen the clear best. Dave even said hed rather wear cleens and cleen was better every week too n another thing he said cleen did better. And jason barely won the challenge, all 3 snuck by and showed flaws and if thats true u need to judge jason a slight adv on the final tattoo, cleen dominated 16 tattoos before at least. If jt was that close the last tatoo u gotta judge who should be master its these guys livelihoods not ratings,uneducated popluarity votes from america choosing their anxious buddy, or jason barely winning the tattoo only bc he barely hit the challenge better, they still liked cleens best lol and tattoos are about taking an idea and making it ur own, and only jason didnt do that. He did straight new school except his background which was wrong
If the tattoo's were even REMOTELY close, Clean would've won... If clean did a worse tattoo than Jason and jason did a slightly better tattoo than clean... Clean would've won.... However, Jason knocked it SO FAR out of the park past Clean the ball was not even visible when it landed. Clean dropped the ball at the worst of moments, and Jason fuckin DESTROYED IT at the most ideal moment....
nooooo nada que ver man Jason tiene constancia pero Cleen nunca estuvo abajo ademas sus tatuajes son impresionantes igual me hubiera gustado que gane ese compeetncia Josh pero por fumanchar lo sacaron:(
+Giulietta Alvareez La de Jesús en la cruz, era muy malo sí, obra de Cleen Rock One. Pero según su historial, debió de haber ganado, pero en cuanto al tatuaje final, la saturación del color de Jasón, más el trabajo de composición, fue un trabajo fuerte.
its quite Ironic, remember when Jason and Cleen were arguing and Json was like everybody drops the ball at least once. yea guess Jason was right, on the final stage cleen dropped the ball. This was his competition to lose and he lost it.
I love this stuff. The judges make millions off this and the contestants sure get exposure but they also get used. So in the end the only winners are the judges. This is true for all these shows from Idol to the Voice to BLM. Whether exploiting minorities or artists or singers - exploitation is alive and well.
Your report card only gets you so far…cleans tattoo was better than Jason’s but he basically cheated by turning his tattoo into a new skl tattoo and that wasn’t the challenge so he didn’t deserve the win
I've never noticed that Cleen had teary eyes the entire time. This really hit him hard. Glad he was able to get the title of Ink Master later.
And, let's be honest, he's a marvelous artist.
I'M GLAD
His attitude alone shines like the sun! Have you noticed every freaking time he is pumped about LITERALLY anything to do in challenges, tattoos and placement? The guy is so great !!
Lmao he never got the title though, he won “Better than Christian”, but he is not an Ink Master.
I'm so disappointed. Cleen deserved to win. He was the best artist throughout the whole season.
The pats were 17-0 but guess who won the superbowl that year?
@@carloscruz4626 18-0
@Tammy Hallett I agree but still Cleen all day
Tammy Hallett Jason wayyyy more inconsistent
Josh was better.
What a fucking joke that Cleen never got the title. He tattooed circles around everyone throughout the entire show. The fact they didn't get to choose their final back piece was straight up bullshit. If you are able to make it all the way to the finale then you've already proved yourself. This "meeting the challenge" should be thrown out the window in the finale, they have earned the right to pick the style of tattoo that's gonna win them a hundred grand. Especially Cleen, dude kills it week after week and then he doesn't even get to pick his final piece? Fuck that. If they had gotten to choose their piece Cleen would of mopped the floor with them like he did all season long. I'd feel robbed. Jason Ink master? Even Erik was better than him. What a joke.
FOR REAL!!!!!!!
And he dropped the ball on the most important tattoo...... He fumbled it COMPLETELY... and he still would've won even after fumbling this hard if Jason didn't just ABSOLUTELY FUCKIN KILL IT! Jason fuckin knocked it so far out of the park past anything clean did the entire show it would've been a fuckin shame had he lost on that master canvas....
Wow. Cleen was obviously the best in this season next to Josh Hibbard. I'm godsmacked at this decision. Wow. guess you can just skate by and produce medium quality tattoos and still become Ink Master. Damn Cleen must be pissed.
Gobsmacked
He didn’t hit the challenge bottom line lol
@@richardtorres9581 that would be a good excuse if Cleen hadn’t lost to Anthony on a later season after he did the challenge and Anthony did not. Dave was the only one to point it out
These are the worst judges. Season 3 they allowed Tatu Baby in the final 3. When she was consistently at the bottom to middle of the pack. Several times she did not finish, messed up her lines, or did a horrible job. Yet they allowed her to go to the finals.
did you not see their master canvas tats? Cleen fuckin droppe the ball then fell on his tattoo machine trying to pick it up, and Jason fuck Mark Mcguired the ball so far out of the stadium it went into another state.
Even Jason did a better tattoo than cleen, cleen would've won... but he didn't do JUST a better tat... he did a FAR FAR FAR better tat.
Cleen should have won. He was the most consistent and Jason wasn't.
I know this comment is probably 4 years late, but people dont be dumb. The instructions were clear. Cleen and Erik made Jason do New School, but they didnt follow the same instructions which was for them to do a color portrait. throught out this Ink Master show alot of people have not been following the instructions and im sure most of you have seen why. alot of people have been controversially sent home because of instructions. i had to watch this season again to understand Dave Navarro's mind set. that was a good call.
Rules were broken when they gave jason a second canvas where as other unfinished tats were judged regardless if the client walked out or not and jason should've been judged on his crappy unfinished canvas like the others were so how anybody can try to argue is beyond me but clean was robbed no doubt about it
This is a super late reply, just watched the season but this argument isn't really valid when they use the tattoo artist's "entire profolio," as an excuse to elimate, keep, and declare ink masters previous seasons and that season as well in ways. Show is a complete joke letting a mediocre artist that cries about their anxiety, and couldn't even beat their rival win. Smh.
@@ShatteredPieces26 ok what don't you get? Cleen didnt meet the challenge period. he messed up. This whole season I was saying theres no way he loses but then on the biggest stage he messes up. The tattoo didn't look good either, i was disappointed by it but Jason's was wayy better and he doesn't even do new school. This was Cleen's competition to lose and he fumbled the bag.
I still think Jason didn't deserve the win overall. Cleen was 100 percent the more consistent artist throughout and I also think his master canvas had a better tattoo
100% agree... Cleen was the better artist, but didn't do the challenge. Would have been BS had he won when Jason did a damn good new school tattoo. Cleen beat Cleen. Be mad at him lmao
If Joshua hasn't been disqualified he would have reached the third place on the finale.
Facts
Period
If Josh had not been disqualified, Jason would have had the worst tattoo with his crooked Empire state building. I am rewatching the season at the moment..
That's what i said season 5 shouldn't even be called a winner winner. But I guess a win a win right.
Jason got lucky. The judges sometimes just don’t judge on the art alone they judge the person and they shouldn’t. I was surprised when Jason made it to the final 12 both seasons.
bro they literally judged it on the art.... Cleen dropped the ball... fumbled... fell on his face... And if Jason had just done a decent BETTER tattoo... cleen still would've won... but Jason knocked it so fuckin far out of the park the ball disappeared from view....
Come on. Jason struggles to find himself throughout both seasons and as his final tat he pulls off THAT masterpiece? The detail to colors the dimensions. Cleen is an amazing artist, but Jason just pulled out his best tattoo work when he had to. Hate on Jason all you want, his tat was amazing.
Exactly!
Cleen was really good at banging out his best work in 6 hours.... However, his 35 hour tattoo was just that... his best work, only much larger...
Jason showed that what we saw during the season wasn't even CLOSE to his best work... and when he was in his element at hom comfortable he fuckin SLAYED. To me this proves that Jason is simply the better artist.... Cleen is just better at busting out 6 hours tats at his own highest level.
If Jason didn't knock it so far out of the park like he did, cleen would've won. If cleen did a worse tattoo than Jason, but made it color realism, he would've won... If cleen did a slightly worse tat than Jason, he would've won......
Cleen dropped the ball at the worst time, and jason fuckin KILLED at the best time. After revealing those master canvases, if cleen still won it would've been a fuckin TRAGEDY.
Annnnnnnnd this was the lastime we ever heard of Jason. Making him the most forgettable Ink Master Chump in history.
don't be racist man
don't be super racistified brother
I’m glad Jason won , his back piece stood out to me and character wise , much nicer guy
The dude whines and bitches constantly…. Not much nicer at all
The most dissapointing finale ever!! Poor Cleen :( I think the judges weren't fair at all!! That's why they had to go through a whole competition? For the Ink Master to be chosen according to ONE tattoo?? What did Cleen work during all the competition for? For the first time Chris was my favorite judge... Oliver, you dissapointed me :(
***** bro its not a championship final, it is mastering the art of tattooing and cleen was the master of this art since the beginning of the season. You cant compare this competition with a Superbowl dude. Cleen worked his ass off the avoid nearly all the elimination and Jason was struggling. Its unfair.
***** I agree with you..but if the artist are judged on the basis of the current day's performance then the show should have named themselves Ink Championship. A master is simply the master of the art and i believe you agree with me that the actual master was Cleen. A guy who was struggling to keep up with the pace of the competition cannot be called a master. Yeah Jason can be called a champion but he is not an ink master because he lacks many skills in comparison to Cleen.
Black182heart If the win is based off of season performance then there is no point of the finale.
Richard Sawney Of course there is a point. If you look at previous seasons, the final two, (sometimes even the final four), were all very good artists who almost never were among the worst, and were praised by the judges week to week. In those cases, one tattoo CAN make a difference. If Cleen's rival in the finale were Josh or Erik, I could understand that they choose the winner based on the final tattoo. But this wasn't the case: no one that has watched the whole season would doubt that Cleen is, by far, a much better artist than Jason. Ink Master is supposed to be about choosing the best artist in the competition. Was Jason that artist? I don't think so.
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Dave said most of that. He himself admitted that Cleen outperformed everyone. But Jason hit his challenge and the final tattoo HAS to matter at ALL times. It cant matter one time and then throw it out the window another time. There has to be some consistency.
This made me so mad!!! Cleen should have won!! Not only was he on the top of his game all season long, but he represents everything a true Ink Master should be. They need to be able to do any style, they need to be adaptable, able to handle any kind of client, and most of all, give the people a clean, badass tatoo that they will love. Jason is good, don't get me wrong, but he is no Ink Master. He was on the bottom to much, he doubted himself to much, and he can't handle everything that comes his way!! Jason is mediocre to me!! Cleen Rock One all the way!!! God bless him!!!
don't be racist man
I am so glad to see that most comments are not in agreement with Dave. I feel that the title "Ink Master" should go to someone who can best MASTER the challenges thrown at them. Clean has been the most consistant throughout this season, and to throw out his whole body of work and base the final decision solely on the last challenge is a travesty. Jason was inconsistant all the way through, and happened to most meet the category of the final challenge, while still delivering a sub-par tattoo. To me that is NOT a MASTER. That is someone who got lucky. I also have to agree with an earlier comment that they should have been able to pick the subject matter and style of the final piece. This is where we should get to see them shine.
yes I agree..... an ink master should master the challenges given to them... Cleen dropped the ball at the worst time, and Jason SLAYED so completely and absolutely at the right time.
The ONYL way Jason was going to win this was if he knocked it so far out of the park while cleen just absolutely bungled it, and that's what happened.
I'll tell you what really happened though. Jason is simply a better artist.... But cleen was better at putting his best work out in 6 hours. His 35 hour tattoo had the same quality of any of his 6 hour tattoos only it was much larger so took more time..... Jason, on the other hand wasn't as consistent at putting out his best in 6 hours, but when he had the comfort of home, and the TIME he showed he was actually simply much better than cleen PERIOD.
It was the right decision. Clean dropped the ball.
I think the judging criteria is too inconsistent. Jamie in Season 2 eliminated despite being very consistent. Melissa Season 4 eliminated despite doing a better tattoo than Scott, because she hadn't won any challenges. Nick in Season 2 didn't get eliminated for not fitting a cover-up challenge criteria.
I met Jason while working Electronics at Target at Ontario Mills a few years ago. I had no idea who he was and wondered why everyone wanted to talk to him and take pictures. I had seen my fair share of interesting characters coming in to buy phone chargers, etc. He saw my tattoos on my bicep and we started talking about it and he was a really cool guy. I ended up selling him a Nintendo Switch with Mario Kart and then he slid me his card and I was like "oh you forgot this" he's like "that's for you, that's my card, you were really nice very helpful and should come by and have a beer with me and play Mario Kart sometime." and I was like "oh alright cool!" I looked up his name when I got home that day and was like "Wait A minute...I MET THIS GUY" I still have his card today. That's something I wont soon forget, you never know who you will meet anywhere!
sounds racist IMO
Now that's some bullshit. Dude skims by all season long then does one good tat and the gets called the winner. This is not the Super Bowl. The are is what should determine the results and the final challenge should only add to the portfolio not determine it. This was first season i watched and Now I don't think I will watch the next season cuz the last tat is all that matters
i agree this is not the superbowl, however the judges contradict themselves... notice how in the first 2 seasons it was all about who was better throughout the competition.. and now they wanna make it seem like its about the final tattoo well in that case,, over turn the seas 1 decision cause tommy helms killed shanes tattoo an still lost, bunch of bull shit.
in all fairness, Jason did win some elimination tattoos.
They made the right choice even though Cleen was better overall that season. What would be the point of the finale if they didn’t pick the best tattoo? There would be no stakes and everyone would know the winner beforehand.
Am I the only one who thought clean should win, Jason is a terrible artist... Smh
Seriously can't apply sports finales to tattooing. An Ink Master is supposed to be an artist who can do it all. You can't determine "it all" from just one single finale tattoo - which is why this decision was bullshit. To some degree they need to factor in the report card - it should have some weight in the decision. Jason didn't prove he was ink master, he proved he can do new school with his finale piece - but what about all the other styles he fucked up throughout the competition? Cleen proved himself more, and was more consistent. .
I feel like Cleen went on to do bigger and better things while Jason didn't because Cleen was THE BETTER ARTIST!
Jason should have never won this. This was a the worst decision on ink master.
Naw the worst decision was voting out Jaime cause he didn't have tattos
this was the BEST decision ever made on ink master. After that master canvas, after Jason absolutely SLAYED that back piece while Cleen absolutely BUNGLED his..... and they STILL gave it to cleen... what the fuck would be the point of the live finale, or the 35 hour tat.
The 35 hour tat shows who is ACTUALLY the better artist...... Cleen was good at putting his best work out in 6 hours... The quality of his 35 hour tattoo was exactly the same as the quality of his 6 hours tattoo's, only it was larger.
Jason's 35 hour tattoo put the quality of ANY of Cleens tattoo's to fuckin SHAME.
I'm so glad ppl feel the same way I do about Jason winning. He was constantly lame throughout the competition seasons he was in.
Josh is the true ink master in season 5
He threw it all away by doing drugs and breaking the rules clearly he was the best but he shouldn't have made that poor of a decision
Poetic Justice on full display. As a seemingly unshakable, confident too dog, he was smoking weed to calm his nerves every day. Meanwhile his rival that struggles with severe anxiety and panic attacks not only outlasts him, not only makes the finale, but wins the fan vote AND the whole thing. That’s freakin awesome.
He said ''if a wanna wear a tatto is it from Cleen'' but he have's a tattoo of Jason.
I feel bad for Cleen he got cheated out of the Ink Master title TWICE
Nuñez: What would be the point of having 2 tattooers making a big tattoo and participating in a final for 100k (with all the stress and illusion that represent for them) , when you as a jury won't care about the output of those tattoos? What is the point of having a final, if you will pick your winner before anyway? We all know that Cleen was the better through the competition, even Jason knows that!! You didn't discovered anything than a regular joe wouldn't. You can incline the balance for the best through the competition IF both tattoos presented in the finale respected the challenge to start with. Oliver and Dave got it.....this is a finale...period....not a final recapitulation of the entire season. Also you seem to favor guys that are similar to you some how. What is your problem with Sausage and Jason? they are not bully enough ...arrogant enough?
Well said i would have been pissed if clean would have won based off of what he did through out the season. Jason's back piece was incredible.
*cleen
It's not like Jason's back piece blew everyone away, it was picked over the convenience of being on topic. It's strange to see Jason be crowned Ink Master when everyone knows he's not the best artist in that room, in fact you can make a case that he's not even one of the top 3 artists in that room. Remember, Joshua was the top dog till he was kicked out, and Jason barely squeezed by to make it to the final 3. I guess you can say Jason won the game, but he didn't prove he was thee Ink Master.
***** I agree with all what you say. Jason won the competition and at the same time is not more master at tattooing that Cleen or Josh. My rant is with Nuñez read my first comment. Why to have a finale if the judges already choose a winner? For me Cleen just dropped the ball the day he shouldn't. Just do a decent enough color realistic tattoo and you win! Unless he really couldn't do it, then he isn't that much of a master either (though yes, overall is the best of the season)
i think, they choose jason way before this vote, look at the last vote, they talk and seems like they are seeing how to make the show more interesting. my opinion
He had two seasons and in my opinion he didn't show nothing special. Was among the worst frequently, and won? Really?!
Cleen definitely should have won. He blew all the other artists out of the water the entire season!!
then got completely blown out of the water when it mattered the most.
The problem was that cleen is simply not capable of drawing at a level that a 35 hour color realistic tattoo would require. He drew at the same level he had the entire competition.... He was really good at banging out his best work in 6 hours.... the issue that brings is the fact that Jasons best work could not be displayed in only 6 hours...
This showed in the 35 hour tat. Cleen did a tat with the same quality as his 6 hour tats only larger. Jason came with the best quality we ever saw from him because he had time to show us that his capabilities exceeded Cleens given enough time.
For example.... go on youtube and look up photo realistic pencil drawings.... You will see some people drawing pictures that you literally would not be able to tell weren't an ACTUAL photo.....
Put one of these guys up against Cleen in a 6 hour drawing, cleen will probably win that battle and look like a genius.... Give that same person 200 hours, and give cleen 200 hours.... and you will see real quick, cleen simply doesn't have the ability to come close to drawing as good as them.... And that is what happened here. To me it's glaringly clear that this is what happened here.
Hell Yea, love Jason Clay Dunn... Best back piece of them all
Hell yeah bro
Josh was the best, unfortunately he messed up.
Eric Mortensen Don't do drugs or you're screwed.
Been rewatching old seasons of ink master and saw this finale a few minutes ago. So lame that a guy basically tattoos the frosted flakes tiger on someone's back and wins. Cleen is definitely top 3 to ever be on the show. He's consistent, does solid work and should've won this season too.
I still remember this. Cleen was the the better artist, Jason only won because they said Cleen didn't follow the rules or some shit. "The challenge has to matter" Chris knew. Dave and Oliver blew this one.
Jason didn’t deserve the win. Couldn’t beat his rival and had mediocre tattoos throughout the show. I’m baffled he made it to the finals and won with a ugly new school tattoo 🤷
I don't know how people are so upset over the decision. Was Clean better? Yes, but his finale tattoo did not meet the challenge, and if he had won on it, it would have been complete BS. They made the right call that night. Should have done color realism. Jason did new school, which was a style he's not used to.
Cleen beat himself. Be mad at him.
EXACTLY... Jason losing on this master canvas would've been a FUCKIN TRAGEDY. He fuckin SLAYED IT while Cleen bungled it.... It was the only way cleen wasn't winning, and that's what happened.
actually i wanted that eric won he was for me the best and he is for me the ink master
B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T
Cleen should have won, he was the best all season long. Even Erik or Josh were better than Jason...Why did you have to screw up, Josh?
If it wasn’t for that weed incident, Josh Hibbard would have won this season.
Jason had the best finale tattoo that’s why he won plain and simple.
True but I think the only reason he got there was they were worried about his mental health if he lost. Could be the same here.
After 5 full seasons, Nunez still does not know how to judge a final....justice was done by the other panel members.
Earth to Nunez....
FUCK YES!
Why bother having an entire 15 episode season?
Just bust out a single episode and crown a mofo Ink Master.
Okay this is major contradiction this is how i know the judges are bogus... follow me now.. lets go back to seasons 1 and 2... they made it seem as though the guys winning consistently should take the crown... as ink master notice... first season it was shane o neil if we take what our host just said, he said its like the superbowl right... so if thats true then tommy helms should of been first ink master.... because he beat shane o neil on final contest an tommy did damn good in the competition... this is how i know this shit is fake and fixed... bullshit every season almost.
If that was the Superbowl of tattooing jason shouldn't have made the playoffs with his ugly dragon not to mention getting two canvases to work on they should of judged him on his unfinished canvas like they do every body else
@Kyle Dempster his tattoo was crappy and it was done to the point where you could judge and the design was crap the application was crap and he got another canvas and went with a whole different idea the second time cause his other idea was shit so quit trying to lie cause both his tattoos were crap and he shouldve been eliminated in a couple of rounds dude was trash and only won due to a technicality as opposed to being the ink master
I was so fucking furious when I watched this for the first time, that even today i'm avoiding the whole fucking season.
its almost like Cleen wanted to sabotage himself. Its like he didn't even study on what the style he was supposed to tattoo.
it was beyond his ability.... This proved who the better artist was.... Clean was able to nail 6 hour tattoo's at his best quality, and it turned out that his 35 hour tattoo was at the same level of quality of his 6 hour tattoo's, only larger so it took up 35 hours.
The quality of Jason's 35 hour tattoo put anything Cleen did to fuckin SHAME... it was absolutely no contest....
The only way Jason was winning this is if he knocked it out of the park, while at the same time cleen bungled it.... and that's what happened. The 35 hour tattoo was what ruined it for cleen.... when someone has 35 hours to draw something... the person who is the better artist will come out on top in that situation, and that is what happened... Cleen just wasn't as good as Jason.... Faster, yes.... Better at banging out high quality tattoo's in 6 hours consistently at his highest capability, YES..... But in a true test of skill, he showed that he's simply not capable of master level artistry.....
It's actually quite the anomaly... but to me.... it's very clear.
Jason got lucky, period... Cleen should've won this hands down. Jason was always blaming is shortcomings on everything but him just not hitting the mark. If Joshua hadn't been disqualified, as much as an @ss as he was, JCD wouldn't have even made it to the finale. Cleen got robbed plain and simple
Cleen should have won, Josh should have been up there over Jason(tho Jason is waaaaaay more likeable as a person)
Both badass artists but I think Coleen should of won, he dominated throughout the whole season!
who the fuck is coleen..?
Least deserving winner ever! ... EVER!!
objectively wrong.
He showed he has higher capability than cleen in that master canvas.... Why didn't clean meet the challenge? He wasn't capable of it.
Jason would have never won or even been in the top three if Josh hadn't been caught smoking weed. He's a terrible artist.
SOOOOOOOOOO MAD!!!!!! CLEEN NEEDED TO WIN!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡
I 100% agree with all the comments below; Cleen should've won.
Jajaja cleen has lost 2 finals but Joshua was the best of InkMaster
why put the winner in the title of the video? SPOILER ALERT!
I liked Jason because he was the least egotistic and very shocked he won, I am happy for him. Also happy Cleen won the title later on! Win-win
I wouldn't let Dunn tattoo my dog's ID into his ear!
why would u tattoo your dog tho
@@crybabyjocelin Pure bred registered dogs are tattooed for id
Shameful, Cleen was the best tattoo artist throw the whole show. And James tattoos are mediocre the whole show. And he won the final.
For me, and a lot of other people, Cleen is Ink Master in thuis final.
well because jasons tattoo on the final canvas blew anything cleen did throughout the entire competition away.
Wait!! Is this spoilers for the season going on rn
Cleen will always be king
Kleen got screwed over on this one
1:44 jason may have not won this if it werent for the guy in the audience to convince the judges
Dont agree with this!at all!
Ink master!better read the comments!Cleen is the winner for us!
Cleen, you should have gotten this.
CLEEN WAS ROBBED end of story
I’ll never understand HOW TF Mark lasted til the final 4
Didn’t match the challenge? Those socket wrenches look damn real. Jason was consistently garbage throughout the show and I lost so much respect for Dave and Oliver. Chris is literally the only one acting like a true judge. Cleen was robbed 100% by some mediocre fruitloop who thinks he’s good now.
Shoudav sent him home the Lazy two faced gnome...What were the public voting on, the feel sorry for him being bullied at school critique..I mean Cleen was in the top almost every challenge...piss poor judgement..
Ugh... Didnt want Jason to win... All he does is whine, complain, and make excuses
I thought the worst decision in Ink Master was in season 6. I can at least understand why Jason won. But I can't understand how kruseman won season 6. I mean he only won a flash challenge that didn't even have anything to do with tattooing and then picked his canvas and was immediately in the bottom.
the finalists should have been Craig, Chris and Matt. Kruseman still had technical problems in his finale piece and the worse thing they said about Chris's is that the sky was to plain. However, I feel like in season 7 the right person won.
Michael Hobbis Christian should have won 7
Definitly
So here's the thing, I'm going to explain this to you guys, you can agree with me or not, but I'm right... so you should agree with me lol :P
Cleen did a tat with the same quality as his 6 hour tats only larger. Jason came with the best quality we ever saw from him because he had time to show us that his capabilities exceeded Cleens given enough time.
For example.... go on youtube and look up photo realistic pencil drawings.... You will see some people drawing pictures that you literally would not be able to tell weren't an ACTUAL photo.....
Put one of these guys up against Cleen in a 6 hour drawing, cleen will probably win that battle 9/10 times.... Give that same person 200 hours, and give cleen 200 hours.... and you will see real quick, cleen simply doesn't have the ability to match up with them.... And THAT is what happened here. To me it's glaringly clear. He's simply not capable of color realism piece that large when put up against someone who is just better given enough time.
I need to see their final piece
Did he said if he had to choose between one of the two to wear he would choose clean? And then go on to talk bout the superbowl nonsense tffffffffffff u obv like one better than the other if u would choose it to be put on u so how did the other dude win....
2:21 jason wins ink master season 5
dont worry guys cleen wins in season 12 that's a great comeback he really deserves it coz is on top 2 in the line for two seasons and now he won!!!
Wow thanks for the absolute spoiler.
He won eventually
I'm glad Jason won Ink Master. He was the only one that I'm hoping for him to win during this season.
Cleen is awesome but Jason is such a great guy, too. He was so humble in both Seasons 4 and 5- even as a "rival"- his crap-talking was still pretty harmless. I'm glad he won- you could tell he really was his own worst critic. Cleen has gone onto multiple seasons of Ink Master (including the current one). I do hope he wins it this time around (Season 11)! But I'm really happy for Jason (as someone who goes back and binge watches all the old seasons!)
Great guy but this isn't a great guy competition
this shitt happens with Chris and krusemann in the season 6, that sucks...
Quien ganó?
They cheated Cleen so they can bring him back for another season for ratings 😒😒😒
love the arrested development black finger nails
Josh won.
The only thing is earlier
In the season dave liked chriss tattoo better but tried swaying nunez to kicking him off by saying really ink master-the guy who said he gave up before starting like 8 shows before? Americas vote probably pushed jason over the top, when it shouldnt happen at all because america just picked their fav guy aka jason plus he has a whole extra season of fans than cleen n eric, this point shows by how america chose jason before seeing his final tattoo. Thats a joke cleen was by far the best the whole time. And all 3 they said were good tattoos and all 3 had major problems. If americas vote counts thats cumlative, so the judges should be able to use the whole body of work plus the challenge plus am vote. The show 4-5 times had a challenge that there was a clear winner n loser then they added a random heads up new challenge and disregarded the original challenge aka mark getting booted. The whole show is contradictive and turning into big brother than a real competition show judging the best artist. Eric was better than Jason the whole time and cleen the clear best. Dave even said hed rather wear cleens and cleen was better every week too n another thing he said cleen did better. And jason barely won the challenge, all 3 snuck by and showed flaws and if thats true u need to judge jason a slight adv on the final tattoo, cleen dominated 16 tattoos before at least. If jt was that close the last tatoo u gotta judge who should be master its these guys livelihoods not ratings,uneducated popluarity votes from america choosing their anxious buddy, or jason barely winning the tattoo only bc he barely hit the challenge better, they still liked cleens best lol and tattoos are about taking an idea and making it ur own, and only jason didnt do that. He did straight new school except his background which was wrong
If the tattoo's were even REMOTELY close, Clean would've won... If clean did a worse tattoo than Jason and jason did a slightly better tattoo than clean... Clean would've won....
However, Jason knocked it SO FAR out of the park past Clean the ball was not even visible when it landed. Clean dropped the ball at the worst of moments, and Jason fuckin DESTROYED IT at the most ideal moment....
Sorry but cleen won that hes the true ink master
nooooo nada que ver man Jason tiene constancia pero Cleen nunca estuvo abajo ademas sus tatuajes son impresionantes igual me hubiera gustado que gane ese compeetncia Josh pero por fumanchar lo sacaron:(
cleen si tubo el peor tatuaje del día y de milagro no fue eliminado
+Giulietta Alvareez La de Jesús en la cruz, era muy malo sí, obra de Cleen Rock One. Pero según su historial, debió de haber ganado, pero en cuanto al tatuaje final, la saturación del color de Jasón, más el trabajo de composición, fue un trabajo fuerte.
Wtf even is this shit. Poor Cleen, he didn't deserve this!
its quite Ironic, remember when Jason and Cleen were arguing and Json was like everybody drops the ball at least once. yea guess Jason was right, on the final stage cleen dropped the ball. This was his competition to lose and he lost it.
fuck yeah!
Love the white makeup
:)
i don't have any white make up on lol
gothmoth Goth ftw.
agreed!
I also watch this programm in Holland, and was frustrated that Cleen didn't get what he disurved, this was a farce
Honestly, he won because his tattoos are better. He spends less energy on his image and more time on his tattoos.
Let me collect my thoughts
I didn’t even see the tattoos
dale que a de bien no ni la final y soy un fan de kink rock guan
Up to now I can't believe Jason won with his moody ass self,although cleens a bragger he's a bad ass should've been him or Erik.Well it is what it is.
I love this stuff. The judges make millions off this and the contestants sure get exposure but they also get used. So in the end the only winners are the judges. This is true for all these shows from Idol to the Voice to BLM. Whether exploiting minorities or artists or singers - exploitation is alive and well.
oh yeah getting exploited by making 100,000 and getting worldwide recognition for their work. fuck off
melhor programa do mundo👏👏👏
I don't think Chris has chosen well because it was about the last challenge and not what happened through out the entire season pffff
Your report card only gets you so far…cleans tattoo was better than Jason’s but he basically cheated by turning his tattoo into a new skl tattoo and that wasn’t the challenge so he didn’t deserve the win