Land Rover Discovery 1 - Crank NO START After Speeding Through Flood Water (Diag + FIX!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
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Land Rover - Turning blokes into wrenches one fix at a time. I go through a series of easy troubleshooting methods to find out why my Disco 1 wont start.
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I feel your frustration, the love of our Landrovers
A brake switch! Man!! Car troubles used to be easy to diagnose when all you had was fuel and spark to worry about. Add in all the electronic gizmos and things become incredibly complicated!
Need to go back to the old days?
Bought a brand new 1998 ROW D1 300Tdi in 2000 (my 3rd D1 since 1993) - last model WITHOUT electronics besides the radio (the 2000 model Td5 had already a CPU!).
Drove it from London to Cairo, Egypt later 4 years in Rome Italy, the UK and inbetween all over Europe.
Now we are both retired still dreaming to drive in Southern Africa and to Lake Baikal!
Based on those A pillars, that’s not a GEMS truck, it has a distributor, so the following may or may not apply. There is an electronic module above the engine ECU directly below the passenger fender/hood seam. Normally it’s covered by a bit of plastic, but by now most of those tabs are gone and it no longer actually protects much. It may actually be gone altogether. When that bastard gets wet or it rains hard directly on that seam you have precisely this issue. It usually takes a full day to dry out. The item in question is bolted to the inner fender behind the emissions canister/equipment.
Well performing battery if nothing else….survived that torture test….as did the starter!
Why didn't you disconnect the brake switch again to see if it actually was the problem?? You said what you think is "the fix" but no confirmation. Apologies if I missed it, but please follow-up so it actually can help someone.
Ah the good ol'splish splash and no start, its a land rover thing...also a an avid Land Rover owner here I know the feeling 🤣😂🥲😥😭!
Yes, the land rover has electrics that goes positive both ways and use carbon-chleroxid-aluminium as “semi-“ conducting wire material. Gosh, it’s a problem on every car if you are laze, as most Landy owners are, thanks to it’s robustness myth, so when you need it it won’t work.
I went through something similar with 4.0 98 rover. I had went into water, ended up going fast and the water level raised. I ended getting waters in the car. Pressing the gass or brake squiter water on to my foot. It started tweaking out and it shut off on me. I parked on a field at an angle and watch the water poor out. My eletricals went whacky, for example my left side markers stay on. Anyways after drying up it turned on fine and still rolling. I just grabed a heat gun and dried up the carpet and the fuse box below the passenger. When people ask why the side markers are on, i just say it had a stroke.
That bird is pretty fit
Def wet distributor - happens to me all the time when I wash the engine bay. Compressed air on it works like a charm! EVERYTIME!
My late father had a problem years ago with his 1974 Buick LeSabre Luxus. Turns out it was a factory defect of a minutely cracked distributor cap. The crack was invisible except under close inspection, but it was letting in enough moisture after a heavy rain to cause problems. Like this, it was cranking and making noises like it wanted to start, but would not. He took the distributor cap off and sprayed the hell out of the rotor and all contacts with a product called Dry ‘N’ Go. He left it for a few hours and it fired right up. A new distributor cap solved the problem once and for all.
Alternator and or the ignition module ... Mine just LOOKS at puddles and refuses to run.
Oh i had that on my first d1 with a manual, though was a later GEMS with the electronic ignition. Ended up just bypassing the clutch position switch on the clutch pedal at the time. Also i know the feeling with the distributer, my second one i now have has the MEMS system like that one and i'm not sure which one i'd rather fight with.
I’ve never experienced this in my D2, but I appreciate you sharing.
Troy 0, Frank 2!
That sys.has coiled ignition, the main spark wire might be cracked and might be . Shorted then distributor wil hold moisture.if so get heat gun to dry it up.
And y'all thought I killed it...
Neutral safety switch not break switch
Sucks brother!! But will help us in the future!!! Thanks 😂
Wait so is there a known link between the brake light switch and the ignition system? Or was it some kind of electrical ground voodoo….
Definitely the brake switch.
I've got a problem with my 95 D1. It all started a month ago. Cranked, would occasionally not start. When this happened, after finally starting, had a smell of old fuel for a bit. Then one day, lots of crank, no start. Thought it was fuel pump, so I replaced it. Started, ran, fine except it seems like the pump was not keeping up. Felt sluggish, little response when I mashed the accelerator. Then one day, driving home from work it was feeling sluggish like all that week and then started losing power, going slower and slower until I had to pull off the road. Cranked, would not start. Occasionally, I would get a momentary fire, but no start. Replaced fuel pump (whole assembly) again, fuel filter, plugs, wires, distributor, amplifier module, and fuel pump relay switch. Still, crank, no start. Occasional fire, but no start. HELP! I miss driving my baby! Any ideas? Anyone?
Maf sensor
Really? I wonder if cleaning it may help. Or just a whole replacement? How about the crankshaft position sensor? Thanks for the help. Thrown over$1000 dollars at it so far. @@AddictedMotors
@@westernwanderer8397 unplug it while it’s running and see what happens.
Ha, won't start!
@@westernwanderer8397 ah. Then it’s OK.
The Crank Position Sensor is always suspect with this situation - oh my bad thought it was a 96/7/8
Bad grounds. Coil wire. Check to see if your rpms register when cranking. If no rpm then it's the CPS. Check the air filter. If damp leave open and pull the maf connection.
Nope.
@@AddictedMotors I'm getting the evil eye from the wife as I'm watching this at a birthday party.
@@Land_Raver lol good!
Easy fix…. 300 tdi
I Bet it was the rotor shorting out due to the moisture..ask me how I know!!!
Nope.
16:05 aaaaaah... r.i.p. laptop
16:08 just kidding!😂
I bet its the inertia switch .
No rpms. Looks like a CPS problem.
94. No CPS
94/95 don't have CPS.