its 2019. itll be dogshit. approach these adaptations with as much scepticism as possible, then if its even 1% of the manga you can say it was better than expected
i saw a comment saying "what if they animated it in black and white" and honestly?? such a good idea... it'd be so unique, an anime in black and white (if you know of any black-and-white anime tell me!!) and it'd almost be more horrific if they did it that way. you'd feel like you went back in time and it'd give the readers more imagination to think of "what colour might her dress be?" etc. PLUS it would just make the anime more eerie in general
should've gone to shiratorizawa I thought it would be hard to animate something like junji’s work in colour, as the whole black and white thing really makes it so much more disturbing Plus it would be hella cool if it was a literal animated manga
I think this would have been the perfect approach for adapting his work. Some months ago, I watched a video that compared the original first episode of Dororo with the new adaption from 2019. I know this isn't even a horror anime, but for some reason, the 60 years old black and white series looked very scary too me. This is also sometimes the case when you compare older games with their remakes. For example that fight in the very first Tomb Raider game, against the gigantic dinosaur. The place where you encountered him in the original game was almost entirely black due to technical limitations (your visual range was very short) and when he suddenly appeared out of pure darkness, it was one of the scariest things I ever saw in video games. Then came Tomb Raider Anniversary: The place was full of details, very bright, colorful and you got a lame cut-scene that carefully warned you, that you are about to fight a dinosaur. A scary moment, completely ruined in the remake. I wonder if the scary atmosphere in the original game was even intended or not, but I still feel so disappointed with this particular moment in the remake.
Junji Ito's manga style would've fit perfectly in the 80s - 90s. Back when things were more realistic drawn and darker anime actually felt creepy by atmosphere alone
Well I don't see why it cant fit now. 80's-90's ot would have fit with the more realistic style I do agree however personally I love the uncanny valley of it being realistically accureate in trails of blood. Like how horrorfying it can be for knowing people in your everyday lives that you love and trust could be more then what you originally thought and knowing they they can be monsters like the ones your told not to acknowledge as a young child could be closer then you think or know. I personally do wish the style was more anime esc type of style (cartoonie) but again personally I like the realistic style because of how it makes me feel when things do get alittle tence and bone chilling. Ik you never said you didn't like it I just wanted to say my two sence on the matyer lol
Well, you can thank the economic scale of Japan in those years. Its called the golden age for a reason. The amount of money they have let them to animate in detail and free to choose what to animate and do projects out of passion and not worry about money. Nowadays, even if you decide to animate them in those style, you just don't have the luxury that time period provides for them
@@janogabor7697 that's true, I really love 97 anime, despite it being kinda low-budget. I think it captured the manga very well and all the VAs from the dub did a fantastic job portraying the characters But I always wanted to see the other arcs animated. The mock eclipse is probably my favorite moment from any manga ever, and I would love to see it adapted well
@@juannaym8488 I would love a well done lost children chapter, but I guess mass child murder makes it hard to adapt. Which is I guess why berserk 2016 skipped it and thank god for that because I would have hated to see one of my favourite mini arcs be ruined.
Problem is Junji Ito's art style is very detailed, to fully animate his works, every single detail, is extremely expensive and time consuming. But his art style is crucial to the horror, it just won't work if the details are not in the anime. Instead of making a show, spend the budget on a few short & high quality anime films. I've seen some incredibly detailed short anime films, I think it's possible for Junji Ito's works.
Uzimaki is gonna be a 6 ep special and coming out 2020 they have enough time for healthy animation and we don’t know how long they’ve been working on it plus it’s coming on toonami so big hype and love will be shown
@@HTX7130 I've seen the teaser of Uzumaki anime and as I had predicted, the art is suck. No one will and can transfer his masterpieces in animated frame.
the thing that frustrated me the most while I was watching the series, is that they literally didn't even ACTUALLY animated the characters, there were just a bunch of shots in many scenes where the creatures were just static with an off voice saying the dialogues, it felt like they just painted the manga panels and stitched them onto the chapter. so disappointing
It kinda remind me of those 1966 Marvel Cartoons. Except in those, they at least try to animate certain parts and find ways to give some action, even with a lower budget. It has a charm to it. Except for this anime. This barely has any charm or substance. You could pass this off as a color version of Juni Ito and it would be more appealing than this mess.
What I hated about the show was how bad the acting was with people literally getting their necks getting nawed off by a woman with shark teeth and they just go "aah"
@@whenyounutinhermouthandshe Yeah, sometimes your brain hardwires itself to read what you expect it to say- Like how when you read "dig bick" lots of people automatically reads it as big dick instead*.
@@dsouza7206 i saw the uzumaki trailer. I think they would nail this one. The anime is in black and white which I think is best for ito's style of horror.
I agree. The hand drawn animation would’ve worked so much better. Plus the more rough edges and lines of that time would’ve worked with Junji Ito perfectly!
Imagine if this was made only in black and white shading/palette? With great lineart details? Like a moving manga? Nobody do that nowadays and its so unique.
black and white i think would be too close to the manga, i think the anime adaptation could have made really good use of colour, but unfortunately it's just dull midtones
@Sanaai Bahr Frankly, cute sounds from something terrifying can make a nice juxtaposition to make something either less threatening or more disturbing.
This is why I appreciated Wolf mentioning Berserk. Berserk's landscape and Spreads are always so detailed you can only imagine the time Miura put into it. And for most of it to be devoid its just painful. It's hard seeing another manga get treated the same, but what are we gonna do?
The junji Ito collection is like when you put a metaphor into Google translate. It's not like the original, it's lost is meaning, it's similar in a way, yes, but it isn't gonna be the same no matter how you adapt it.
That Weird Kid this man is like exactly what I aspire to be in terms of Art. I adore his style, I just suck at drawing stuff how I want to. I use tons of little lines for fine details and control, and hold the Philosophy of “The Key to making Good Art is to Sink a Lot of Time Into It”, and he’s like the realization of that. 9 hours on a page to make a masterpiece.
Here's all they had to do: make the anime black and white. That'd get them the budget to do more detailed art, more complex animation, and add to the surreal factor of Ito's original work. Not only that, but it would've definitely stood out among contemporary anime.
That's actually pretty brilliant. Simple and efficient. I'd love to see this done, but black and white also feels like horror shorthand, almost like a cop out. The way color is used in animation is one of the reasons I love the medium. Its a lot to ask, but I really want to see a director who pushes the strength of animation on all levels in order to create a compelling horror anime
purmello I had that exact same idea while watching the video. Colour gets in the way of the shading and small details. I always think horror should be done in black and white, including films.
It didn't have to be black and white, but it really needed to use contrasts more. Ito's art mostly uses the sharp contrast of black and white and very few grays. Even disregarding the lacking detail this makes the anime's art look like a washed out version of the original.
First we lost the chance to see what he could have done in the universe of Silent Hill and now we have an embarrassingly bland animated adaptation of his manga.
I was in fifth grade and found a manga lying on the track field, at first I was full of joy, little did I know it was a Junji Ito collection... And The Window Next Door scarred me for so long... T_T
bruh i was in fifth grade and my friend from seventh grade lend me the manga telling me i could enjoy thar (r.i.p fifth grade me’s innocence also it was Uzumaki lol)
in the part where you talk about the window scene the anime did look pretty scary but when you switched over to the manga version it actually gave me chills
It's the eyes. While the Anime was definitely bad, if they just did the eyes more faithfully to the source, I guarantee every monster would've been much scarier.
I figured the window lady as a shrived old dark woman, so seeing the color applied threw me the fuck off. If you combined the detail with the color, it's be even freakier in my opinion.
We acknowledge everyone on this project worked hard but we as fans just don’t like the interpretation of the artwork as a cartoon. Remember, Ito allowed them to bring his work to life.
That would be fascinating! I would admire his work in every single details and asking the meaning all of his works! Man... That would be a dream come true
I have to admit, the idea of finding the old stuff of someone who was here before you can be a wonderful horror thing. You first find some twisted, horrifying, truly scarring drawings of things that once were human, but now barely qualify as beast, instead monsters. You find dozens of them, everywhere, and you have no explanation. Surely they are just the work of a particularly imaginative mind... right?
@@anangryaustralian8518 They're a good studio but they don't have a perfect track record or anything. Log Horizon is great but not a particularly well funded venture which is pretty much true with everything they make.
Anime fans: hi there Studio Deen Studio Deen: hello I like money Anime fans: what inspired you to make a junji ito anime adaptation? Studio Deen: money
Uzumaki is being adapted into an anime, and it is actually being handled by Junji Ito himself. It is announced to come around 2022. I hope this can bring his work to life.
Uzumaki is the one that started it all for me. No horror manga has come close to it. I am very interested in its anime adaption, but I more or less already know that the manga will remain the best.
Most artists don't have any say so in who adapts their work. You have to roll the dice when you sell the right to have it animated. The studios rarely even have any specific person in mind when negotiating for animation rights.
I kinda feel bad for the staff. I heard that the director spent a while studying Ito's work and trying to emulate it for animation. But if you don't have the resources, time, or support from the higher ups to make the production as technically unique as the manga, then it's going to fail, and that's just sad.
I appreciate the director's efforts to actually understand the source material, but if he felt he didn't *get* it then he shouldn't have tried to portray his own depiction of another's work. Yes, these instances can lead to great things (Heath Ledger's Joker), but he should have been more careful with it. The bad animations, for one, is inexcusable
"What if they animated it in black and whit?" Boy do I have good news for you, Toonami is going to do a full black and white animated adaptation of Uzumaki
Between this anime, the god-awful Uzumaki film and Silent Hills being cancelled by Konami, my man Ito can't catch a fucking break. Dude is a living legend, definitely deserves better treatment.
I mean, the ending is about as good as the manga's. As in, the creators threw their hands up and decided, eh, I'm done. Conclusions are for suckers anyways. :P But yeah, it says something when the Gyo OVA was better than the Uzumaki's film and Gyo suuuuuuuucks.
The anime looks like it is copying Ito instead of translating Ito to a different media. Some stuff doesn't come out the same way when going from still pictures to moving pictures.
one of the things i love about ito's work is that he doesn't care about keeping monsters hidden to increase the suspense of seeing them, he just makes them absolutely horrifying to look at.
Hey not to mention they made 2 great seasons of KonoSuba and Rakugo Shinju within the last two years. Then there's the total flop projects like this and The Reflection. Makes it feel like they got an A-Team and a B-Team.
When I think about it that was the problem with the Killing Joke movie, they copied scenes from the comics but didn't understand why they worked so they looked bland in comparison.
Sonic Badass Yeah I've seen some people that simply blame the first part and claimed the second part is great as that's where the adapting parts of the killing joke start appearing while ignoring how the adaptation lacks the nuance of the original. (Granted thats a low minority as the mediocre animation couldnt hide that fact)
Animated lazily, panel by panel adaptation with halfassed editing, absence of any understanding of how the original product worked or what was its message.Yup, they're very similar. The first part of the Killing Joke movie was absolute trash, but so it was the second part, a movie that merely copied the superficial concept and ideas of the Killing Joke, without paying much attention to anything. An empty shell. At least in the Junji Ito Collection they tried to copy the artstyle, instead of using a stupid "lol so random Ben10" one.
LadyKraken honestly the only part was the end after joker refuses Batman’s offer to which that line just felt perfect but yeah the movies was pretty trash
I found out something extra disappointing about the anime as well: the version sent to crunchyroll is CENSORED. The shock value is made even weaker because certain parts of gore are blacked out (especially clear in Town Without Streets).
Kirsten Großmann I hate censored anime. I tried watching the first episode of the Deadman Wonderland anime after reading the manga and the most impactful shots from the manga were literally a black screen. Someone who watched the anime before reading the manga wouldn't know that the protagonist was reacting to seeing his friend's decapitated head because they didn't show it at all. It really just takes away from the story.
Jack Blackthorn not necessarily, mob psycho is good and DBS, sure there are better places to watch anime, but crunchy roll is still pretty smooth if you have a free sub or don't mind paying.
i think that junji ito's horror is cosmic horror, not a new genre. cosmic horror themes are based around perversion of the physical/psychological idea of humanity, horror beyond understanding and hopelessness/pessimism.
Is there a genre for psychologically deep confusion that makes you question yourself and reality? Like the question, am I alive? Am I real? What is real? Are numbers real? Simulators real? If we are 1's and 0's isn't it still reality? In that case are we products of a larger being, being the blood cells in a uncrompehensive specie. Uhm basically, trippy,drug hulicination based confusion. Mimicking schizophrenia. Sorry if I described something that already exists lol, but I do wanna know
@@imdone8243 Most of this stuff doesn't stem from psychology which is a very new science.... and I'll just leave it at that out of respect for those who practice it. Anyways generally you will find MANY of these type of ideals in early history with many Philosophers and religions. For example Plato with the Cave , or Egyptian mythology of the afterlife reflecting most of everything here, Hinduism with the world soul/world dream and reincarnation, Chinese philosophers had alot of talk about existentialism as well as later poets in japan. It's about everywhere and usually stems from religion or philosophy~ later I suppose psychology as it is invented becomes more easy to apply to works like these.
@@pajtimo23 I couldn't speak to him bc of language barriers but he seemed so kind and was always smiling during the meetup. He's very different from his drawing and narrating style ahah
I think the problem here is that Junji Ito's horror relies a lot on heavily detailed and precise drawing. Heavily detailed drawing happens to be very expensive and difficult to animate. I guess its very similar to what happens with H.P Lovecraft's work made into film. It works so well on prose that it anything else simply works worse. Ito's stills are so perfect that they look dull on any other medium.
Not just her. In the manga her father and brother have really unpleasant and even slightly evil expressions and complexions while in the anime they look completely normal and harmless.
11:10 Ito really knows how to draw the creepy picture you get when you look at something long enough that it starts to morph and turn eerie. It's similar to the creepy morphing your brain does. When you look between two pictures as they flash and change on screen. All the ordinary faces you see start to turn ugly. You could even say it's the sleep paralysis demon in the corner of your eye Ito is drawing.
My personal problem with the Junji Ito anime is how a lot of the stories seem to skip important details from the manga they adapt. Don’t get me wrong, I know these details can’t be called “plot points”, since Ito doesn’t follow a regular kind of plot when it comes to his works, but I still feel that when you skip over certain details, you can still lose something important. What do I mean? Well, after reading some of his stories, I got the feeling that there were some hidden meanings in them. Ideas that were conveyed by giving very small and subtle hints. For example, in one of the stories called “Hellish Doll Funeral”, a couples’ daughter turns into a doll because of a bizarre disease that only infects children, and most parents burn their own children once they find out. The main couple find the idea of killing their only daughter foolish, and decide to let her live as a doll, until they find out that, over time, the disease mutates their daughter’s body even further to the point where she’s now a hideous scarecrow-like abomination with a centipede neck; at which point, they change their minds about burning her. Reading all of that, you could interpret “Hellish Doll Funeral” as an allegory for people who suffer long and hard from severe illnesses to the point where the only way to cure them is to finally put them out of their misery. However, the anime adaptation completely omits the fact that the daughter’s transformation is due to a disease that was spread on an epidemic level, so that kind of potential message is all but lost. I guess what disappoints me the most about this anime is that much of the interpretive aspect of Ito’s works is gone, and makes it hard for me to really tell if he’s trying to give some commentary or just trying to give a scare.
True i also notice that,They also choise the Most boring horror part of the manga it self ( i dont know how to say it diffrent for boring more lame) but if they did use the best one the anime whould be much more worse. To me but many others
How you explained about the doll, i had Big problem with "peeking", as "the mystery street boy" who tells you if your chrush will fall for you, as the "Endless dreaming" For the "peeking" one i got the massage that Some people on the world Love to Bother into someone else prive withoud respect and want to know everything.// another massage was more like although you try to hid things or try to keep your privé for your self People will still try find a way to find out. ////////// By the "Endless dream" Feels like the massage people who are scared of dying rater wish never to die although they know they will come this makes them even more scared then before and wish to stay alive forever, instand of afraid of dying the docter though of using the crystal for those patient to let them Sleep forever so they never can be scared of dying and have at least a peice and happy ending. Like here in this world Nobody wish to die and latter wish to sleep forever or life forever and it afraid them even more when they think about it or that to think to do just suidcie to deal it faster it more based of Being afraid to dissapair in this world will you didnt comeplete much in your live you still wanted to do
The White Wolfos I haven’t seen the animated version of Glyceride (mainly because I don’t want to give my stomach a hard time again), but I don’t doubt what you say.
the big rumour going around was that the Ito collection was just "the cheapest ito stories we could get a license for." it was a pure cash grab. and the fact that even the stills are low qual really reinforces it.
It's sad, when the only mildly creative and entertaining thing in this "show", is the intro. The music is creepy, and builds atmosphere, the kaleidoscope imagery is quite unsettling, and if the show had took more of advantage of these aspects, improved the writing, animation, stories, and formed it's own identity, it could've been ACTUALLY good. Sounds cool, right?
i agree besides the writing lol the whole point of the adaptation is to adapt the source material to animation.. and every word and sentence throughout the ito mangas was perfection into building my Morbid Curiosity.
What i would do if i was art director for a Junji Ito adaptation would be: -make all the backgrounds black and white -make the horrible creatures and mutations black and white -make the humans colored, but with very dull, lifeless palettes, to give them some kind of life and contrast to the horrifying things that happen to them -make the characters ACTUALLY ANIMATE -try to maintain at least some of the detail of Ito's creatures -the translation would be pretty much the same
An extra subtle step could be to give the monsters more frames in their animation than the humans or vice versa, further demonstrating how otherworldly they are.
@@thingsnstuff7526 you know about what happen to light? Here the answer: Everyone say he became shinigami but no. In the anime called death parade he made an appearance. He was just sitting on sofa. It said he has to sit there for eternity just like the death note said that the user wont be sent to heaven or hell.
jomaruyart If they did they same quality of animation, only in black and white, it would certainly look lazy, b/w would only look good if it had the same kind of intricate detail shading like the manga, otherwise it would just had been some random black and white anime with badly drawn monsters. Maybe what they should have done was to animate one OVA and do it right.
It's OK, Stephen King has been struggling with studios not taking effort or care with his stuff for decades. Then when a director finally comes along and gives it the treatment the work deserves; i.e. Frank Darabont; and it blows up like gangbusters those same studios just don't know what to say.
@@bplup6419 Being fair, that's mostly because his adaptation was very, very loosely based on the novel. And even then, I think I read somewhere, that King actually apologized years later for the stuff he said about the movie and Kubrick.
When it comes to still shots, I don't get why they couldn't up the detail. When you started talking about it and showing their stills, what I thought of was how even shows like Sponge Bob can produce more detailed stills that are creepier.
At around 11:25 you talk about how this shot could be understood if it was for the simplocity of animation, except that this is just a still. Compare this to spongebob, where sometimes they use very detailed still shots to illicit a reaction. Something like that could have been done in these junji ito shorts.
He straight up mentions this himself in the comment section: "The production company should have hired the people who do the high-detail (and often gross) Spongebob stills to have made the "animated" versions of the full-page monster reveals."
I've read all the junji stories. All of them. 70% I read when I was a kid. And I guarantee all the stories are scary, and creepy at the same time. Most of the stories don't end well for the main character, and that's the reason why I always end up depressed and feel uncomfortable for several days after I finish reading the story. I'm fine with a spiral face, humans being sucked into holes in the mountains, endless labyrinths whose walls are made of monks who are silent and fast to death, I endure with humans hiding in sofas, and others. Most of the stories above, only gives an uncomfortable feeling for a few days or even a few hours. But. There is one. There is one title that still makes me feel uncomfortable, even now after a very long time when I last read this story. The title is 'The Bully.' Little Belown Spoiler: The Bully, really makes me still ask about the fate of the child. Coupled with the quality of pictures of junji ito who managed to provide a panel that revealed the figure of the mother of the child that I had to admit, I was still afraid of that figure. In fact, it was the figure who often appeared when I closed my eyes while bathing.
For me it was the hanging balloons, it gets me every time I re read it. Earthbound, Amigara Fault and Army of One too!! But yeah Bully freaked me out too! Ugh that last picture 😭
You hit the nail on the head. I've been rereading his manga works lately, and the art and atmosphere truly are inimitable. Also LOL at the animator of the anime having last worked on Diabolik Lovers previously.
What's up with stuff like berserk and junji ito's stuff being given to inexperienced directors? It's well known stuff, why not give it to someone who is proven?
Berserk and Junji Ito's works are two of my favorite manga series and this makes me want to die. At least Akira was done right (even though it's woefully short).
The anime series looks like it was made around the early '70s. Instead of giving you fear and dread, it just gives you stiffness and boredom. Very slow-paced and the progression is not comparable to the manga.
One thing that REALLY bugged me about this anime was the lack of good camera work. I couldn't feel the least bit immersed in anything because it always felt like I was just merely looking AT the scene rather than ever feeling like I was there with the characters.
Vicente Ortega Rubilar 4 month ago I already knew it won’t be scary at all why? The manga has ton of stop or freeze point in the story of the creepy and scary part. Try do that with an anime the anime will keep going it won’t stop letting the person adjust our mind.
Did he ever do a review of the Gyo movie? That was at least enjoyable in a cheap thrill way and it captured some of Ito's essence in the later half of the film.
I think the most terrifaying episode is the one with the never ending dream. I mean, you cannot run from fatigue and every time you go to sleep, your dream last more and more longer, until you cannot remember who you while nobody understand you because it's only in your head
Junji Ito has the same philosophy as H.P. Lovecraft when it comes to horror and that's why I love his work so much. That idea of cosmic horror where the human mind is unable to fully understand the strange horrors it encounters, it's a shame that the anime couldn't live up to that.
G I A N T S E E D You absolutely should read. He's written many short stories but his larger ones, Uzumaki and Gyo in particular, are some of my personal favorites.
For me, The promised neverland faced an almost similar problem in terms of how demons are portrayed. Ive the entire manga up to the latest and watched the anime. The demons in the anime don't look intimidating or mysterious since they're colorful but in the manga, they convey mystery and danger. Dunno, perhaps many scary or grotesque shots/ scenes are better in black and white or a still picture than an animated piece. But ill see the anime as its own take of the horror and the manga to be different as well as the story itself somehow starts to move away from the horror aspect.
At 3:00 the way he describes Junji Ito's horror sounds like he's describing Lovecraftian horror. From the grotesque body horror and the incomprehensible entities that it appears you can never escape from, all the marks of Lovecraftian horror but when it comes to the works of Lovecraft himself and the many other writers who worked on his mythos or simply attempted the same genre or style of horror, its more cosmic and almost always has some connection to the ocean stemming from H.P Lovecraft's own fear of the ocean and what lurks in it. I'm not saying Junji Ito made Lovecraftian horror, I'm just pointing out some similarities between them and I think it's cool how Lovecraftian influence can be found in so many different places.
Like I was telling people when this first started, Madhouse should have been the one to take this show, or at least Bones. Not only would the names be kind of a funny coincidence, but they both have the level of dedication and budget to make a competent adaption of just about anything. From a purely aesthetic point of view, as well, this should have been a series done almost entirely in black and white to let Ito's shading and linework really come to life, punctuated by splashes of color in the same way the Sin City movie was done. That would do more to instill a sense of dread than anything the actual show has ever done.
Has nothing to do with studios, but staff. The director is an inexperienced nobody. Nobody who is working on this seems to be experienced enough to tackle Junji Ito's work. Budget has nothing to do with it either. I'm tired of this misconception, most anime have pretty much the same level of budget. It's all about scheduling and time management.
Anti-Mattering I've seen at least three other people have that same "black and white" idea on this comment, and that's excluding me. Really, this was a very obvious choice that went wasted.
It's not even necessarily the only option. They could easily have done it in full color and still have made it look good, it's just that the show we got chose the most bland, lifeless, and disgusting color pallet they possibly could. And there's no greater meaning to it, either, like trying to contrast mundane bits with the shitty coloration as it slowly bleeds into more absurd and extreme colors the deeper into shit the characters get. It's just laziness and corner cutting.
"Madhouse should animate it. They did my favorite Anime: Death Note & One Punch Man." *STAHP* That's one of the most annoying kind of comment. Madhouse was fundamentally re-structured in 2011 & One Punch Man was almost entirely done by Bones staff.
I agree. Honestly when the series was announced I was really wishing it would be Madhouse on this project. They did a great job with a few of my favorite series (Especially parasyte) so it would have been nice. Not a big studio DEEN person...
It's actually pretty basic editing. Things like slow zoom or a still into a fastcut if you want a jumpscare. Same thing with a different cut and you get a different effect. Really basic things for editing. You can see school projects with better quality editing then this adaptation.. Which I wouldn't blame just the people that did it. Not everybody is into horror and can pull it off. Whole production was badly handled.
In my mind the great thing about the page turn is, your already moving on when you realize it's going to be bad, it's just a hint, and this could have been translated in a perspective, turn the reaction and just a moment to build anticipation, to decide if you really want to look, and then -bam- horror
I remember seeing some of his work, it was top notch visual horror. I couldnt get sleep, because every time I closed my eyes I could still see some key parts of his works, thats the best kind of horror.
I've seen gore and scary stuff always and never had problem eating during and after it... But Some of Ito's pictures genuinely made my stomach churn and stopped me from eating..i guess that's the power of Ito's artwork
Him: But just look at the panel of the manga. Look at the detail and work that's forged this moment. The grotesque rendering of the woman's skin, stark use of black and white, the detail on her teeth, her jewelry and hair, and the life in her eyes and how it all comes together to create the uncanny feelling that she actually starring back at you. Me: No, do'nt whant to. l'm just gonna skip ahead ten seconds so I do'nt have to look a that thing.
Bro I felt the same way because what he said in the video was spot on I felt uncomfortable as fuck having that panel stare at me there was so much life in does eyes that had me wanting to stop watching or skip ahead
1Way Road It's even more painful when you realize they did Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu and Konosuba recently, so they CAN do good work. But yeah, this one one of maybe three anime I gave up on after one episode.
Fjurpgnerter5549 kinda. I mean, the art was inconsistent, but the animation part was normally alright. Or at least, not so bad as to make the show unenjoyable.
Now, with Maniac coming out, I only hope that no one will ever take Junji Ito's work into their hands to animate it. I honestly feel bad about the people who watched Collection and Maniac without reading the manga.
Honestly, I didn't like it, it wasn't good, a lot of times i started laughing because instead of scary it felt goofy, it instantly broke any tension with weird shots and poor animation, in the Balloons ep, i couldn't take it seriously because the shots of the heads looked goofy and obviously done in 3d, and I'm sorry but the voices lacked any emotions, I'm like disappointed with all of it
But Eyepatch, Junji Ito is a master at making people feel dread, so the show, by being so bad, makes someone feel SO dreadful, that actually lives up to the spirit of manga. This show is a masterpiece!
The manga was way better. The anime just has one too many light scene, the art is gorgeous of course but dam it lost so many horror moment. Like the anime ost don't fit nor that much horrible comedy.
Is this one of those memes like "Berserk is the most immersive story ever made because as you read/watch it you feel the same despair as Guts"? EDIT: Ah fuck, slifer875 already beat me to it.
What? Why on earth would that be weird. Ito is widely recognized for his incredible pen work. I have art-nerd friends who barely read manga that know of Ito's stories and really admire his finesse. He's a master.
One of my favorite horror stories of all time is the Enigma of Amigara Fault. That story still creeps me out. I also love the Gyo story that was published with it. I've never read a horror comic, American or otherwise, that is so effective at giving me the chills. And I completely agree - the low quality was probably a money decision, hoping the name Junji Ito would give it the attention they were looking for without having to actually try.
To me, Ito’s work is unadaptable like Berserk or Vagabond. The art is so detailed and part of its identity, that an animation studio would never be able to emulate it right.
As for examples of scary animation, Courage the Cowardly dog in some episodes pull it perfectly by the use of altering the style of the animation. The "You are not perfect" Monster done with CGI or the Violinist girl done with stop motion where great examples of this, they provided a feeling of uncanny that I cant remember from any other animation. Something similar could have been done with the Ito collection. But well, missed opportunity.
I think everyone surely agree on one thing.
"The manga was better."
Always is
@revilo 2000 fair enough
@@jery3385 and poopy farty owe
It always is.
Nope
Not always
Let's hope Adult Swim does some justice with their Uzumaki adaptation.
its 2019. itll be dogshit. approach these adaptations with as much scepticism as possible, then if its even 1% of the manga you can say it was better than expected
it looks like is going to be amazing,and the fact of being black and White gonna make this scarier
@@henry7696 i think is going to be really great
@@henry7696 with as much "scepticism" as how you pronounce skepticism?
@@henry7696 fuck 2019 gotta do with it?
i saw a comment saying "what if they animated it in black and white" and honestly?? such a good idea... it'd be so unique, an anime in black and white (if you know of any black-and-white anime tell me!!) and it'd almost be more horrific if they did it that way. you'd feel like you went back in time and it'd give the readers more imagination to think of "what colour might her dress be?" etc. PLUS it would just make the anime more eerie in general
should've gone to shiratorizawa I thought it would be hard to animate something like junji’s work in colour, as the whole black and white thing really makes it so much more disturbing
Plus it would be hella cool if it was a literal animated manga
@@TheZutter yess lmao
Ik what u mean it would be excellent like what the directors did with schindlers list
They need to make an OVA at least this way, freaking amazing idea
I think this would have been the perfect approach for adapting his work. Some months ago, I watched a video that compared the original first episode of Dororo with the new adaption from 2019. I know this isn't even a horror anime, but for some reason, the 60 years old black and white series looked very scary too me. This is also sometimes the case when you compare older games with their remakes. For example that fight in the very first Tomb Raider game, against the gigantic dinosaur. The place where you encountered him in the original game was almost entirely black due to technical limitations (your visual range was very short) and when he suddenly appeared out of pure darkness, it was one of the scariest things I ever saw in video games. Then came Tomb Raider Anniversary: The place was full of details, very bright, colorful and you got a lame cut-scene that carefully warned you, that you are about to fight a dinosaur. A scary moment, completely ruined in the remake. I wonder if the scary atmosphere in the original game was even intended or not, but I still feel so disappointed with this particular moment in the remake.
Junji Ito's manga style would've fit perfectly in the 80s - 90s.
Back when things were more realistic drawn and darker anime actually felt creepy by atmosphere alone
Yes, actually i see it. Something with a more serious and dark atmosphere as for example cowboy bebop or akira.
Well I don't see why it cant fit now. 80's-90's ot would have fit with the more realistic style I do agree however personally I love the uncanny valley of it being realistically accureate in trails of blood. Like how horrorfying it can be for knowing people in your everyday lives that you love and trust could be more then what you originally thought and knowing they they can be monsters like the ones your told not to acknowledge as a young child could be closer then you think or know. I personally do wish the style was more anime esc type of style (cartoonie) but again personally I like the realistic style because of how it makes me feel when things do get alittle tence and bone chilling. Ik you never said you didn't like it I just wanted to say my two sence on the matyer lol
Comparing the Berserk 97 adaptation to modern adaptations is a great example of this
That actually sounds pretty cool!
Well, you can thank the economic scale of Japan in those years. Its called the golden age for a reason. The amount of money they have let them to animate in detail and free to choose what to animate and do projects out of passion and not worry about money.
Nowadays, even if you decide to animate them in those style, you just don't have the luxury that time period provides for them
Junji Ito fans: gets bad animation
Berzerk fans: First time ?
I will never get over the Berserk adaption
@@juannaym8488 😭😭😭
Hey atleast the third Golden Age movie was good. The 1997 anime was also kind of good.
@@janogabor7697 that's true, I really love 97 anime, despite it being kinda low-budget. I think it captured the manga very well and all the VAs from the dub did a fantastic job portraying the characters
But I always wanted to see the other arcs animated. The mock eclipse is probably my favorite moment from any manga ever, and I would love to see it adapted well
@@juannaym8488 I would love a well done lost children chapter, but I guess mass child murder makes it hard to adapt.
Which is I guess why berserk 2016 skipped it and thank god for that because I would have hated to see one of my favourite mini arcs be ruined.
I would call his style
“holy Shit, omg, it’s three in the morning, I don’t want to die- oh god I’m gonna die”
Or, in the case of long dream, "oh God I dont want to be immortal being immortal seems horrifying what the fuck"
@@freindmaker4473 i understood that reference... Nice.
I would call it "ok its 3 am im gonna watch peppa to chill biach"
"Oh God, I hope there's not a me shaped hole."
@@Vaultboy101 "I NOW HAVE A PHOBIA OF CINNAMON ROLLS. HOW CAN A SPIRAL BE SO TERRIFYING? HOLY FUCK."
Problem is Junji Ito's art style is very detailed, to fully animate his works, every single detail, is extremely expensive and time consuming. But his art style is crucial to the horror, it just won't work if the details are not in the anime. Instead of making a show, spend the budget on a few short & high quality anime films. I've seen some incredibly detailed short anime films, I think it's possible for Junji Ito's works.
then don’t animate it, if you aren’t gonna put in the effort. let people enjoy the manga
Right, it needs Studio Ghibli level animation.
Uzimaki is gonna be a 6 ep special and coming out 2020 they have enough time for healthy animation and we don’t know how long they’ve been working on it plus it’s coming on toonami so big hype and love will be shown
@@HTX7130 I've seen the teaser of Uzumaki anime and as I had predicted, the art is suck. No one will and can transfer his masterpieces in animated frame.
Watch this anime and realize that courage the comdery dog is done better
the thing that frustrated me the most while I was watching the series, is that they literally didn't even ACTUALLY animated the characters, there were just a bunch of shots in many scenes where the creatures were just static with an off voice saying the dialogues, it felt like they just painted the manga panels and stitched them onto the chapter. so disappointing
Fr
Ya
It kinda remind me of those 1966 Marvel Cartoons. Except in those, they at least try to animate certain parts and find ways to give some action, even with a lower budget. It has a charm to it.
Except for this anime. This barely has any charm or substance. You could pass this off as a color version of Juni Ito and it would be more appealing than this mess.
Shut up and go watch
Naruto😂
Tbh, if they would have colored and narrated the manga, it would have look better
What I hated about the show was how bad the acting was with people literally getting their necks getting nawed off by a woman with shark teeth and they just go "aah"
Thank you for your input, primo mafioso
The English dub does better screams, but sometimes to the point of overdoing it.
@@bloppa9784 "The English dub does better screams" is a phrase I never, ever expected to read
@@skyekelley8080 have you heard of our dubbed lord and savior, "Ghost Stories"?
@@TWolf-gt6if its good to see that youhaveacceptedghoststoriesasourlordandsaviourofdubs
I read the title as “Junji Ito is Disappointing Garbage” and literally had a heart attack
Yeah you can't read.
That’s right, I am illiterate 😌
@@whenyounutinhermouthandshe Yeah, sometimes your brain hardwires itself to read what you expect it to say- Like how when you read "dig bick" lots of people automatically reads it as big dick instead*.
@@e48-g6z That got me lmao
e48 FUCKING- I read it as big dick-
The whole budget of the show went to the opening and thats it💀
The visuals remind me of Dragon Ball Super, with the same blurry outlines and boring, washed out colours
i lost any interest as soon the intro started. like seriously, a rock song for a junji ito anime? fucking hell.
Shut up and go watch Naruto
@@pemuda7075 bt i liked it bruh... And I'm waiting for 2023 series coming on Netflix
@@dsouza7206 i saw the uzumaki trailer. I think they would nail this one. The anime is in black and white which I think is best for ito's style of horror.
Junji Ito makes you disgusted due to how good his art is.
The Collection makes you disgusted due to how bad it is.
Turns out the only thing more cosmicly horrifying than Ito's work is anime production
He should make a parody about that.
600th like :)
haha
It's anime production*
Lmao
I Was Worried This Was About Junji Itos Actual Manga For A Second
Tru3-R0y4lty omg me tooo!!!
Same I came here to nicely put him into place but then agreed lol
Me2
Same
SAME
I imagined this anime would have look so much better if it was made in the late 80's/ early 90's as an OVA series.
Original Video Animation
I agree. The hand drawn animation would’ve worked so much better. Plus the more rough edges and lines of that time would’ve worked with Junji Ito perfectly!
Due to the large budget back then and the overall aesthetics of that particular time in japonese animation... couldn’t agree more!
I agree totally, the quality wouldn't be half as bad as this one.
Most definitely, make 2 OVA (release them with a Mega comp hard back of course) with 6 or 8 episodes each and it sounds like a good time.
Imagine if this was made only in black and white shading/palette? With great lineart details? Like a moving manga? Nobody do that nowadays and its so unique.
black and white i think would be too close to the manga, i think the anime adaptation could have made really good use of colour, but unfortunately it's just dull midtones
@@rachelb.684 as a person who has never watched or read junji ito, i can say that it might look WAY better if it was black and white
You're getting your wish with uzumaki
Uzumaki is going to be in black and white! It looks so good from the trailer!
GIRL ITS HAPPENING NOW LOOK AT THE UZUMAKI TRAILER 🎉🎉🎉
I feel like the guy that did Perfect blue could have handled this, as he was very good with transitions and atmosphere
R.I.P Satoshi Kon.
@@aarianasmith8122 Sadly, indeed. :-( But he will be remembered.
He's dead
js790 welp! He needs to be reincarnated stat😭
YES BRO I LOVED PERFECT BLUE
5:55 just image a girl covered in blood levitating while repeatedly saying "uwu"...terrifying
@Sanaai Bahr Frankly, cute sounds from something terrifying can make a nice juxtaposition to make something either less threatening or more disturbing.
Truly
"Kya!"
-Satan
Watch Internecion Cube and you'll be terrified
:3 pwepwere to be consuwmed by the dawkness UwU
Disrespectful to adapt such masterful works in such a lazy manner.
Very
I agree
This is why I appreciated Wolf mentioning Berserk. Berserk's landscape and Spreads are always so detailed you can only imagine the time Miura put into it. And for most of it to be devoid its just painful. It's hard seeing another manga get treated the same, but what are we gonna do?
Its still very hard to animate Junjis work
He dosent really draw simple shapes
Honestly only he could animate his own manga
Yup, “lazy” is the perfect descriptor. #SAD
The junji Ito collection is like when you put a metaphor into Google translate. It's not like the original, it's lost is meaning, it's similar in a way, yes, but it isn't gonna be the same no matter how you adapt it.
this is actually beautiful
junji ito: *spend 9 hours on one art piece*
me: *gets impatient ten seconds after starting an art piece*
That Weird Kid this man is like exactly what I aspire to be in terms of Art. I adore his style, I just suck at drawing stuff how I want to. I use tons of little lines for fine details and control, and hold the Philosophy of “The Key to making Good Art is to Sink a Lot of Time Into It”, and he’s like the realization of that. 9 hours on a page to make a masterpiece.
this is not funny, try to work on it :D
@@therealstarMoses
well, in my case it was Hirohiko Araki, who inspired me to be more detailed with my drawings.
@@Legomicroman Yeah me too
Most artists take longer than 9 hours, usually artists take 7-48 hrs
Here's all they had to do: make the anime black and white. That'd get them the budget to do more detailed art, more complex animation, and add to the surreal factor of Ito's original work. Not only that, but it would've definitely stood out among contemporary anime.
purmello I just wrote the exact same thing in my comment, scrolled down and saw yours. That must mean we're right, aren't we? :'D
That's a really interesting idea.
That's actually pretty brilliant. Simple and efficient. I'd love to see this done, but black and white also feels like horror shorthand, almost like a cop out. The way color is used in animation is one of the reasons I love the medium. Its a lot to ask, but I really want to see a director who pushes the strength of animation on all levels in order to create a compelling horror anime
purmello I had that exact same idea while watching the video. Colour gets in the way of the shading and small details. I always think horror should be done in black and white, including films.
It didn't have to be black and white, but it really needed to use contrasts more. Ito's art mostly uses the sharp contrast of black and white and very few grays. Even disregarding the lacking detail this makes the anime's art look like a washed out version of the original.
First we lost the chance to see what he could have done in the universe of Silent Hill and now we have an embarrassingly bland animated adaptation of his manga.
we lost Berserk, now Junji Ito... whats next? Gantz?
@Midnight Toxin Next? We lost "Blame!"
@@CryingZombie666 really? I thought blame! was pretty good as far adaptation goes.
Silent hill (live) , berserk and Junji Ito can now only be saved by Netflix
@@awper901 Go to hell with your shitflix.
I was in fifth grade and found a manga lying on the track field, at first I was full of joy, little did I know it was a Junji Ito collection... And The Window Next Door scarred me for so long... T_T
r.i.p.
Rip
Same thing for me but at other place. Its weird how these horror mangas appeared out of nowhere like it is asking us to read it
@@kucingcing Sounds like an anime, and Death Note.
bruh i was in fifth grade and my friend from seventh grade lend me the manga telling me i could enjoy thar
(r.i.p fifth grade me’s innocence also it was Uzumaki lol)
in the part where you talk about the window scene the anime did look pretty scary but when you switched over to the manga version it actually gave me chills
It's the eyes. While the Anime was definitely bad, if they just did the eyes more faithfully to the source, I guarantee every monster would've been much scarier.
Yeah. The source was truly scary. When I first saw that, I swear, it actually blinked back at me.
Reading this manga at 12am is a bad idea but also the best way to enjoy it
I figured the window lady as a shrived old dark woman, so seeing the color applied threw me the fuck off. If you combined the detail with the color, it's be even freakier in my opinion.
I was getting that feeling when I first read it.
Me reading junji ito:
Me having to itch myself because my shoulder itches:
Also me: I’m going to die aren’t I?
We all are if that helps.
@@Sara3346 hopefully not in ways depicted in the manga
I JUST FELT MY SHOULDER ITCH TOO
I automatically thought about that scene from Jojo part 4
@@charlenekaczynski9023 aye I I'd too
In all fairness animators in Japan don’t always get paid more than a few bucks for each frame they make
Then make it 120 frames a sec
@@muskatDR that’s not how this works
@@muskatDR that would only make the production take like 2 extra years for something completely unnecessary
@@muskatDR same energy as "if youre homeless just buy a house"
We acknowledge everyone on this project worked hard but we as fans just don’t like the interpretation of the artwork as a cartoon. Remember, Ito allowed them to bring his work to life.
Imagine staying in his house and finding a huge pile of his horrifying artwork 😱
Theres junji it's collection at our library, scary
That would be fascinating! I would admire his work in every single details and asking the meaning all of his works! Man... That would be a dream come true
I'd be fangirling over the artwork and ask him lots of questions especially about his love for lovecraft.
I have to admit, the idea of finding the old stuff of someone who was here before you can be a wonderful horror thing. You first find some twisted, horrifying, truly scarring drawings of things that once were human, but now barely qualify as beast, instead monsters. You find dozens of them, everywhere, and you have no explanation. Surely they are just the work of a particularly imaginative mind... right?
I’d love to read through them with his permission, maybe ask about the process
10:30 Maybe that still image would have been better if they did one of those gross overly detailed Ren & Stimpy close ups for animation
A whole new level of unsettling. Now I can't help but imagine it with a cartoonish soundboard.
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RebelTaxi Love your Channel
Didn't expect you here but it doesn't really surprise me either.
Didn’t expect you to be here... oh hell who I’m I kidding 😏
Anime fans: What inspired you to make a Junji Ito anime adapation?
Studio Deen: I like money
Wait what, out of all the studios to take on itos work it was deen? The same studio who brought us seven deadly sins season 3?
@@anangryaustralian8518 They're a good studio but they don't have a perfect track record or anything. Log Horizon is great but not a particularly well funded venture which is pretty much true with everything they make.
Anime fans: hi there Studio Deen
Studio Deen: hello I like money
Anime fans: what inspired you to make a junji ito anime adaptation?
Studio Deen: money
Did anyone else see the new Toonami trailer for Uzumaki and automatically thought of this guy?
Yup yup lol. The moment I saw this in my feed, I had to come see the comment section
Hope the new special is good
When I saw it I just kept thinking "This animation style is absolutely perfect to adapt Ito's works the way Wolf mentioned"
Uzumaki is being adapted into an anime, and it is actually being handled by Junji Ito himself. It is announced to come around 2022. I hope this can bring his work to life.
Uzumaki. That's the story of his that intrigues me the most, so I'll probably check it out. I'm not an anime or manga fan, but I like horror.
Uzumaki is the best manga I ever read, I am glad that he is handling it himself
Uzumaki is the one that started it all for me. No horror manga has come close to it.
I am very interested in its anime adaption, but I more or less already know that the manga will remain the best.
It’s 2024 still no sign of this show 😐😓
They tried to animate that woman but everyone who tried fuckin died dude
wait wut
Ique what?
which one
hahahahaha
Dynuzard look behind you
moral of the video: never let your work be adapted by someone who doesn't understands it ( especially if bureaucracy is at question )
Most artists don't have any say so in who adapts their work. You have to roll the dice when you sell the right to have it animated. The studios rarely even have any specific person in mind when negotiating for animation rights.
I kinda feel bad for the staff. I heard that the director spent a while studying Ito's work and trying to emulate it for animation. But if you don't have the resources, time, or support from the higher ups to make the production as technically unique as the manga, then it's going to fail, and that's just sad.
I appreciate the director's efforts to actually understand the source material, but if he felt he didn't *get* it then he shouldn't have tried to portray his own depiction of another's work. Yes, these instances can lead to great things (Heath Ledger's Joker), but he should have been more careful with it. The bad animations, for one, is inexcusable
:(
I said it in another comment, that instead of a "collection" they should have animated a pricey OVA of a very famous one shot.
I would love to see Junji Ito's take on The Addams Family.
So basically something like eraser head
I magine his interretation on John Carpenter's The thing or Slither.
Yes yes yes yes
The bizarre hikizuri siblings kind of reminded me of it
His wife Ayako Ishiguro did a painting of The Addams Family as cats.
"What if they animated it in black and whit?"
Boy do I have good news for you, Toonami is going to do a full black and white animated adaptation of Uzumaki
So the... It been a year... Is it out yet?
@@sorintinei3327, not yet. It was supposed to come out last year, but COVID delayed it. No release date yet.
@@JamesGilbert_ i want see ballon head on animation i think it gonna be horror unlike other episodes
Between this anime, the god-awful Uzumaki film and Silent Hills being cancelled by Konami, my man Ito can't catch a fucking break.
Dude is a living legend, definitely deserves better treatment.
CozyBones there was an uzumaki film? How long ago was it released?
Sixteen years ago. If you're a diehard fan then it may be worth a watch just to sate your curiosity but it really isn't very good at all.
I mean, the ending is about as good as the manga's. As in, the creators threw their hands up and decided, eh, I'm done. Conclusions are for suckers anyways. :P
But yeah, it says something when the Gyo OVA was better than the Uzumaki's film and Gyo suuuuuuuucks.
Uzumaki didn't have a conclusion? What do you mean by that?
Fabrizio Illuminati I mean in the sense the manga and movie stopped without much resolution.
The anime looks like it is copying Ito instead of translating Ito to a different media. Some stuff doesn't come out the same way when going from still pictures to moving pictures.
Junji Ito's work is like Lovecraft's. It's very hard to create and adapt to the big screens and animations.
I'm surprised that he's not scared of his own art😂
It's probably because he loves doing it . And that's truly terrifying and beautiful at the same time
I can imagine him so engrossed in transfering what was on his mind his imagination into art. Hes probably not scared at all.
"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable"
If you see the start of the sketch it doesn't frighten anymore, as you know all steps of the art and the simple forms it was before the creepy details
@@zestobrandino i feel like this is a reference from everywhere at the end of time
one of the things i love about ito's work is that he doesn't care about keeping monsters hidden to increase the suspense of seeing them, he just makes them absolutely horrifying to look at.
Studio Deen's production is the real horror story
Zeemod155 Fate/Stay Night which they adapted so many years ago looked far better than this
This was made by DEEN?! Say no more. It all makes sense now.
Hey not to mention they made 2 great seasons of KonoSuba and Rakugo Shinju within the last two years. Then there's the total flop projects like this and The Reflection. Makes it feel like they got an A-Team and a B-Team.
deen ruined umineko and higurashi too, shame
Nanlover 96 They also made Samurai Trust and Betrayal which is gorgeous
10:32 "Now just look at this same image from the manga"
Me: No... I don't think I will.
When I think about it that was the problem with the Killing Joke movie, they copied scenes from the comics but didn't understand why they worked so they looked bland in comparison.
Sonic Badass Yeah I've seen some people that simply blame the first part and claimed the second part is great as that's where the adapting parts of the killing joke start appearing while ignoring how the adaptation lacks the nuance of the original. (Granted thats a low minority as the mediocre animation couldnt hide that fact)
Animated lazily, panel by panel adaptation with halfassed editing, absence of any understanding of how the original product worked or what was its message.Yup, they're very similar.
The first part of the Killing Joke movie was absolute trash, but so it was the second part, a movie that merely copied the superficial concept and ideas of the Killing Joke, without paying much attention to anything. An empty shell.
At least in the Junji Ito Collection they tried to copy the artstyle, instead of using a stupid "lol so random Ben10" one.
Same problem the watchmen film has
LadyKraken honestly the only part was the end after joker refuses Batman’s offer to which that line just felt perfect but yeah the movies was pretty trash
Sonic Badass Tbf there were a lot of problems with Killing Joke
I found out something extra disappointing about the anime as well: the version sent to crunchyroll is CENSORED. The shock value is made even weaker because certain parts of gore are blacked out (especially clear in Town Without Streets).
Kirsten Großmann I hate censored anime. I tried watching the first episode of the Deadman Wonderland anime after reading the manga and the most impactful shots from the manga were literally a black screen. Someone who watched the anime before reading the manga wouldn't know that the protagonist was reacting to seeing his friend's decapitated head because they didn't show it at all. It really just takes away from the story.
girl I just watch mine on fb. Updated on the same day.
"let's make an anime about one of the most disturbing horror manga BUT CENSOR IT!"
Jack Blackthorn not necessarily, mob psycho is good and DBS, sure there are better places to watch anime, but crunchy roll is still pretty smooth if you have a free sub or don't mind paying.
watch it on funimation.
i think that junji ito's horror is cosmic horror, not a new genre. cosmic horror themes are based around perversion of the physical/psychological idea of humanity, horror beyond understanding and hopelessness/pessimism.
uzimaki is basically a perfect representation of that
I'd say body horror, too. He's Japanese Lovecraft but better.
Is there a genre for psychologically deep confusion that makes you question yourself and reality?
Like the question, am I alive? Am I real? What is real? Are numbers real? Simulators real? If we are 1's and 0's isn't it still reality? In that case are we products of a larger being, being the blood cells in a uncrompehensive specie.
Uhm basically, trippy,drug hulicination based confusion. Mimicking schizophrenia.
Sorry if I described something that already exists lol, but I do wanna know
I'm done cosmic horror, i think there’s a video on youtube discussing how lovecraft’s work emulates that kind of fear.
@@imdone8243 Most of this stuff doesn't stem from psychology which is a very new science.... and I'll just leave it at that out of respect for those who practice it.
Anyways generally you will find MANY of these type of ideals in early history with many Philosophers and religions. For example Plato with the Cave , or Egyptian mythology of the afterlife reflecting most of everything here, Hinduism with the world soul/world dream and reincarnation, Chinese philosophers had alot of talk about existentialism as well as later poets in japan. It's about everywhere and usually stems from religion or philosophy~ later I suppose psychology as it is invented becomes more easy to apply to works like these.
I can't believe i actually met this man
What was he like?
@@pajtimo23 I couldn't speak to him bc of language barriers but he seemed so kind and was always smiling during the meetup. He's very different from his drawing and narrating style ahah
@@Serynsera id like to talk to him just to be able to dissect his mind and figure out how he comes up with all this creepy stuff lol
that’s so rad, where’d you get to meet him?
@@pajtimo23 theres great videos of him on TH-cam, I think on the crunchyroll channel but not sure
The anime version of the woman from Window Next Door looks like one of the Beatles I SWEAR I...
Holy shit is this Howard from Big bang Theory ?!?!?!?
@@pedroidbr3960 😂😂😂💀
You mean, George?
Pedroid Br *B A Z U N G A S*
i thought it looked like Jim Carrey from dumb and dumber
I think the problem here is that Junji Ito's horror relies a lot on heavily detailed and precise drawing. Heavily detailed drawing happens to be very expensive and difficult to animate. I guess its very similar to what happens with H.P Lovecraft's work made into film. It works so well on prose that it anything else simply works worse. Ito's stills are so perfect that they look dull on any other medium.
8:35 you can even notice by her expression that she just realized it, but then in the anime she just looks like she is thinking "this tastes normal".
Which story is that just wanna know
Yeah, I noticed the difference in the facial expression too.
05 -1 late reply, but it’s The town without streets.
Not just her. In the manga her father and brother have really unpleasant and even slightly evil expressions and complexions while in the anime they look completely normal and harmless.
11:10
Ito really knows how to draw the creepy picture you get when you look at something long enough that it starts to morph and turn eerie.
It's similar to the creepy morphing your brain does. When you look between two pictures as they flash and change on screen.
All the ordinary faces you see start to turn ugly.
You could even say it's the sleep paralysis demon in the corner of your eye Ito is drawing.
it's even better. at first glance it's scary. then it truly becomes horrific
My personal problem with the Junji Ito anime is how a lot of the stories seem to skip important details from the manga they adapt. Don’t get me wrong, I know these details can’t be called “plot points”, since Ito doesn’t follow a regular kind of plot when it comes to his works, but I still feel that when you skip over certain details, you can still lose something important.
What do I mean? Well, after reading some of his stories, I got the feeling that there were some hidden meanings in them. Ideas that were conveyed by giving very small and subtle hints.
For example, in one of the stories called “Hellish Doll Funeral”, a couples’ daughter turns into a doll because of a bizarre disease that only infects children, and most parents burn their own children once they find out. The main couple find the idea of killing their only daughter foolish, and decide to let her live as a doll, until they find out that, over time, the disease mutates their daughter’s body even further to the point where she’s now a hideous scarecrow-like abomination with a centipede neck; at which point, they change their minds about burning her.
Reading all of that, you could interpret “Hellish Doll Funeral” as an allegory for people who suffer long and hard from severe illnesses to the point where the only way to cure them is to finally put them out of their misery. However, the anime adaptation completely omits the fact that the daughter’s transformation is due to a disease that was spread on an epidemic level, so that kind of potential message is all but lost.
I guess what disappoints me the most about this anime is that much of the interpretive aspect of Ito’s works is gone, and makes it hard for me to really tell if he’s trying to give some commentary or just trying to give a scare.
True i also notice that,They also choise the Most boring horror part of the manga it self ( i dont know how to say it diffrent for boring more lame) but if they did use the best one the anime whould be much more worse. To me but many others
How you explained about the doll, i had Big problem with "peeking", as "the mystery street boy" who tells you if your chrush will fall for you, as the "Endless dreaming"
For the "peeking" one i got the massage that Some people on the world Love to Bother into someone else prive withoud respect and want to know everything.//
another massage was more like although you try to hid things or try to keep your privé for your self People will still try find a way to find out.
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By the "Endless dream"
Feels like the massage people who are scared of dying rater wish never to die although they know they will come this makes them even more scared then before and wish to stay alive forever, instand of afraid of dying the docter though of using the crystal for those patient to let them Sleep forever so they never can be scared of dying and have at least a peice and happy ending. Like here in this world Nobody wish to die and latter wish to sleep forever or life forever and it afraid them even more when they think about it or that to think to do just suidcie to deal it faster it more based of Being afraid to dissapair in this world will you didnt comeplete much in your live you still wanted to do
The White Wolfos I haven’t seen the animated version of Glyceride (mainly because I don’t want to give my stomach a hard time again), but I don’t doubt what you say.
Fatalbutterfly Those are decent interpretations. I wish more people would interpret Ito’s individual stories.
Fatalbutterfly Which ones are you talking about?
the big rumour going around was that the Ito collection was just "the cheapest ito stories we could get a license for." it was a pure cash grab. and the fact that even the stills are low qual really reinforces it.
It's sad, when the only mildly creative and entertaining thing in this "show", is the intro. The music is creepy, and builds atmosphere, the kaleidoscope imagery is quite unsettling, and if the show had took more of advantage of these aspects, improved the writing, animation, stories, and formed it's own identity, it could've been ACTUALLY good.
Sounds cool, right?
i agree besides the writing lol the whole point of the adaptation is to adapt the source material to animation.. and every word and sentence throughout the ito mangas was perfection into building my Morbid Curiosity.
What i would do if i was art director for a Junji Ito adaptation would be:
-make all the backgrounds black and white
-make the horrible creatures and mutations black and white
-make the humans colored, but with very dull, lifeless palettes, to give them some kind of life and contrast to the horrifying things that happen to them
-make the characters ACTUALLY ANIMATE
-try to maintain at least some of the detail of Ito's creatures
-the translation would be pretty much the same
An extra subtle step could be to give the monsters more frames in their animation than the humans or vice versa, further demonstrating how otherworldly they are.
Imagine what this could've been in the hands of Bones or Mad House...
i imagine that about berserk or Gantz
Or opm season 2
Mad House though 😂 I know death note isn’t horror but that one shinigami with the bandages...
@@thingsnstuff7526 you know about what happen to light?
Here the answer:
Everyone say he became shinigami but no.
In the anime called death parade he made an appearance.
He was just sitting on sofa.
It said he has to sit there for eternity just like the death note said that the user wont be sent to heaven or hell.
Yeah but those studios are too busy animating boring uninspired shit
I feel like a much better creative decision would have been to do the entire Junji Ito collection in black and white.
wow, im so mad that they didn't think of doing that...
That would have been so awesome
jomaruyart If they did they same quality of animation, only in black and white, it would certainly look lazy, b/w would only look good if it had the same kind of intricate detail shading like the manga, otherwise it would just had been some random black and white anime with badly drawn monsters.
Maybe what they should have done was to animate one OVA and do it right.
didn't the actual anime of junji ito colletion doesn't seems lazy to you?
It's OK, Stephen King has been struggling with studios not taking effort or care with his stuff for decades. Then when a director finally comes along and gives it the treatment the work deserves; i.e. Frank Darabont; and it blows up like gangbusters those same studios just don't know what to say.
I agree. I watch a lot horror movie and The Mist still to this day scar me for life.
I.E Stanley Kubrick and then King shits all over it
@@bplup6419 it's bc Stanley Kubrick did something unique with the source
@@bplup6419 Being fair, that's mostly because his adaptation was very, very loosely based on the novel.
And even then, I think I read somewhere, that King actually apologized years later for the stuff he said about the movie and Kubrick.
1:49 Oh my goodness, they really did Tomie dirty with that.
When it comes to still shots, I don't get why they couldn't up the detail. When you started talking about it and showing their stills, what I thought of was how even shows like Sponge Bob can produce more detailed stills that are creepier.
I saw one frame and thought to myself: Well this doesent look *too* bad! But then I remembered what the original shot looked like and I just: ):C
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At around 11:25 you talk about how this shot could be understood if it was for the simplocity of animation, except that this is just a still. Compare this to spongebob, where sometimes they use very detailed still shots to illicit a reaction. Something like that could have been done in these junji ito shorts.
He straight up mentions this himself in the comment section: "The production company should have hired the people who do the high-detail (and often gross) Spongebob stills to have made the "animated" versions of the full-page monster reveals."
That or Misadventures of Flapjack or Courage the Cowardly dog
I thought about that too!
“What if they animated it in black and white?”
Toonami: I got you fam
It is like that 1998 Psycho remake of the original film. It has the shots but where is the soul?
My thoughts. So much potential to be creative. Maybe somewhere down the line we'll get another adaptation.
ElcoMoyer One may hope so.
I've read all the junji stories. All of them. 70% I read when I was a kid. And I guarantee all the stories are scary, and creepy at the same time. Most of the stories don't end well for the main character, and that's the reason why I always end up depressed and feel uncomfortable for several days after I finish reading the story.
I'm fine with a spiral face, humans being sucked into holes in the mountains, endless labyrinths whose walls are made of monks who are silent and fast to death, I endure with humans hiding in sofas, and others. Most of the stories above, only gives an uncomfortable feeling for a few days or even a few hours.
But. There is one.
There is one title that still makes me feel uncomfortable, even now after a very long time when I last read this story.
The title is 'The Bully.'
Little Belown Spoiler:
The Bully, really makes me still ask about the fate of the child. Coupled with the quality of pictures of junji ito who managed to provide a panel that revealed the figure of the mother of the child that I had to admit, I was still afraid of that figure.
In fact, it was the figure who often appeared when I closed my eyes while bathing.
I've seen this word for word in another comment section
What figure?
@@johncaseles6301 Jesus please don’t, just no...
For me it was the hanging balloons, it gets me every time I re read it. Earthbound, Amigara Fault and Army of One too!! But yeah Bully freaked me out too! Ugh that last picture 😭
OH HELL NAW!
I always forget about your amazingly hansom face actor.
I'd never seen his face before and I was like, "Whoa, Tom Cruise on Super Eyepatch Wolf's video?"
Don't you mean actor face? Don't worry, his amazingly handsome actor face tends to mess up anyones grasp of language.
Right. He is very handsome. And has a soft voice.
Looks like Guts has taken up making TH-cam videos.
Graham Specter *a you illiterate fuck
You hit the nail on the head. I've been rereading his manga works lately, and the art and atmosphere truly are inimitable. Also LOL at the animator of the anime having last worked on Diabolik Lovers previously.
That explains everything
@@giovannawebster9149 why what's Diabolik Lovers like?
oh, Diabolik Lovers... what an anime
10:33 “just look at the same panel from the manga” you know what? I’ll keep my eyes closed thanks
pressed the time and got a feeling i never had
@@KonoschABC Got a feeling so complicated
Konosch ikr dude just looking at it is just so uncomfortable and disturbing yet i still have the feeling off "i wanna see more" lmao
What's up with stuff like berserk and junji ito's stuff being given to inexperienced directors? It's well known stuff, why not give it to someone who is proven?
Still hoping they get the Jojo treatment, maybe in 10 years time.
Berserk and Junji Ito's works are two of my favorite manga series and this makes me want to die. At least Akira was done right (even though it's woefully short).
Super Eyepatch Wolf already explained it, the fans would still WATCH IT ANYWAY
Berserk wasn't given to an inexperienced director, unless you mean inexperienced with CGI.
Rib Crib Berserk...
The anime series looks like it was made around the early '70s. Instead of giving you fear and dread, it just gives you stiffness and boredom. Very slow-paced and the progression is not comparable to the manga.
One thing that REALLY bugged me about this anime was the lack of good camera work.
I couldn't feel the least bit immersed in anything because it always felt like I was just merely looking AT the scene rather than ever feeling like I was there with the characters.
The anime sucked??? Oh my god I wasn'texpecting that!!!
4 months ago I also was more innocent...and hopeful (crying)
Vicente Ortega Rubilar RIP innocence.
I don't think it's THAT bad. However, it IS a disappointment. It is nowhere near engaging as the manga stories.
I dreamed a dream of a better adaptatioooon~
Vicente Ortega Rubilar 4 month ago I already knew it won’t be scary at all why?
The manga has ton of stop or freeze point in the story of the creepy and scary part. Try do that with an anime the anime will keep going it won’t stop letting the person adjust our mind.
Did he ever do a review of the Gyo movie? That was at least enjoyable in a cheap thrill way and it captured some of Ito's essence in the later half of the film.
And now we have the teaser for Uzumaki. It seems a lot more promising then the collection.
They should've kept the anime black and white perhaps
I think the most terrifaying episode is the one with the never ending dream. I mean, you cannot run from fatigue and every time you go to sleep, your dream last more and more longer, until you cannot remember who you while nobody understand you because it's only in your head
Junji Ito has the same philosophy as H.P. Lovecraft when it comes to horror and that's why I love his work so much. That idea of cosmic horror where the human mind is unable to fully understand the strange horrors it encounters, it's a shame that the anime couldn't live up to that.
JetSetDex agreed!!!
JetSetDex I've never read Junji Ito's work, but i'm a sucker for Lovecraft.
Should i read it?
G I A N T S E E D You absolutely should read. He's written many short stories but his larger ones, Uzumaki and Gyo in particular, are some of my personal favorites.
JetSetDex Nice, i'm sick atm so i was looking for something good to read.
So i know what i'll be doing now.
JetSetDex Oh and btw,
I watched the whole video so...
Have i been spoiled a lot or not?
For me, The promised neverland faced an almost similar problem in terms of how demons are portrayed. Ive the entire manga up to the latest and watched the anime. The demons in the anime don't look intimidating or mysterious since they're colorful but in the manga, they convey mystery and danger. Dunno, perhaps many scary or grotesque shots/ scenes are better in black and white or a still picture than an animated piece. But ill see the anime as its own take of the horror and the manga to be different as well as the story itself somehow starts to move away from the horror aspect.
The studio also got around that problem by not showing them too much. They appear quite sparingly and I believe it is on purpose.
First season of Promised Neverland was literally perfect.
I fucking hate you manga elitists
At 3:00 the way he describes Junji Ito's horror sounds like he's describing Lovecraftian horror. From the grotesque body horror and the incomprehensible entities that it appears you can never escape from, all the marks of Lovecraftian horror but when it comes to the works of Lovecraft himself and the many other writers who worked on his mythos or simply attempted the same genre or style of horror, its more cosmic and almost always has some connection to the ocean stemming from H.P Lovecraft's own fear of the ocean and what lurks in it. I'm not saying Junji Ito made Lovecraftian horror, I'm just pointing out some similarities between them and I think it's cool how Lovecraftian influence can be found in so many different places.
Like I was telling people when this first started, Madhouse should have been the one to take this show, or at least Bones. Not only would the names be kind of a funny coincidence, but they both have the level of dedication and budget to make a competent adaption of just about anything.
From a purely aesthetic point of view, as well, this should have been a series done almost entirely in black and white to let Ito's shading and linework really come to life, punctuated by splashes of color in the same way the Sin City movie was done. That would do more to instill a sense of dread than anything the actual show has ever done.
Has nothing to do with studios, but staff. The director is an inexperienced nobody. Nobody who is working on this seems to be experienced enough to tackle Junji Ito's work.
Budget has nothing to do with it either. I'm tired of this misconception, most anime have pretty much the same level of budget. It's all about scheduling and time management.
Anti-Mattering I've seen at least three other people have that same "black and white" idea on this comment, and that's excluding me. Really, this was a very obvious choice that went wasted.
It's not even necessarily the only option. They could easily have done it in full color and still have made it look good, it's just that the show we got chose the most bland, lifeless, and disgusting color pallet they possibly could. And there's no greater meaning to it, either, like trying to contrast mundane bits with the shitty coloration as it slowly bleeds into more absurd and extreme colors the deeper into shit the characters get. It's just laziness and corner cutting.
"Madhouse should animate it. They did my favorite Anime: Death Note & One Punch Man."
*STAHP*
That's one of the most annoying kind of comment. Madhouse was fundamentally re-structured in 2011 & One Punch Man was almost entirely done by Bones staff.
I agree. Honestly when the series was announced I was really wishing it would be Madhouse on this project. They did a great job with a few of my favorite series (Especially parasyte) so it would have been nice. Not a big studio DEEN person...
I never thought Ito’s work would translate well to animation, I feel like without the page turn a lot of the horror is gone.
It's actually pretty basic editing. Things like slow zoom or a still into a fastcut if you want a jumpscare. Same thing with a different cut and you get a different effect.
Really basic things for editing. You can see school projects with better quality editing then this adaptation..
Which I wouldn't blame just the people that did it. Not everybody is into horror and can pull it off. Whole production was badly handled.
Go watch the Gyo OVA. Don't blame animation, blame animation studios which can't do editing right and don't get the source material.
In my mind the great thing about the page turn is, your already moving on when you realize it's going to be bad, it's just a hint, and this could have been translated in a perspective, turn the reaction and just a moment to build anticipation, to decide if you really want to look, and then -bam- horror
snotti boi the closesset anima to fit his style is yama shibi
thats deen for you, crap studio
5:52 IS SHE SAYING UWU????
Now that is truly horrifying.
thats why its scary
So scary UWU
Title???
@@Mimimini0 uwu the ghost
I remember seeing some of his work, it was top notch visual horror.
I couldnt get sleep, because every time I closed my eyes I could still see some key parts of his works, thats the best kind of horror.
Your "What Makes Media Scare Us" was the groundwork, here's the followup. And what a wonderful followup it is!
Bonfire Keeper James "how media scares us"
the animation is so choppy and limited... plus the only shots that match ito's drawing style are clearly traced from the comics. what a letdown
What is with extremely talented mangaka and going with the lowest bidder possible?
I've seen gore and scary stuff always and never had problem eating during and after it... But Some of Ito's pictures genuinely made my stomach churn and stopped me from eating..i guess that's the power of Ito's artwork
Him: But just look at the panel of the manga. Look at the detail and work that's forged this moment. The grotesque rendering of the woman's skin, stark use of black and white, the detail on her teeth, her jewelry and hair, and the life in her eyes and how it all comes together to create the uncanny feelling that she actually starring back at you.
Me: No, do'nt whant to. l'm just gonna skip ahead ten seconds so I do'nt have to look a that thing.
tru, fuck that ugly-ass bitch face
Bro I felt the same way because what he said in the video was spot on I felt uncomfortable as fuck having that panel stare at me there was so much life in does eyes that had me wanting to stop watching or skip ahead
he.......is.......not.....wearing.........an.......eyepatch.
Let alone a super eyepatch. I´m heartbroken.
He's also not a wolf
>Studio DEEN
Well, that explains everything. Just look at what they did to Fate/Stay Night and Umineko.
1Way Road It's even more painful when you realize they did Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu and Konosuba recently, so they CAN do good work. But yeah, this one one of maybe three anime I gave up on after one episode.
FlyingFocs are you implying konosuba had good animation? Lol
Fjurpgnerter5549 kinda. I mean, the art was inconsistent, but the animation part was normally alright. Or at least, not so bad as to make the show unenjoyable.
FlyingFocs yeah i get you. Poor Junji Ito ,he deserved better.
Fjurpgnerter5549 everything was totally ok with konosubas animation
Now, with Maniac coming out, I only hope that no one will ever take Junji Ito's work into their hands to animate it. I honestly feel bad about the people who watched Collection and Maniac without reading the manga.
Honestly, I didn't like it, it wasn't good, a lot of times i started laughing because instead of scary it felt goofy, it instantly broke any tension with weird shots and poor animation, in the Balloons ep, i couldn't take it seriously because the shots of the heads looked goofy and obviously done in 3d, and I'm sorry but the voices lacked any emotions, I'm like disappointed with all of it
And on the same Ep, the boyfriend's cadaver was LITERALLY A RAGDOLL
But Eyepatch, Junji Ito is a master at making people feel dread, so the show, by being so bad, makes someone feel SO dreadful, that actually lives up to the spirit of manga. This show is a masterpiece!
so the berserk adaptation principle?
The manga was way better. The anime just has one too many light scene, the art is gorgeous of course but dam it lost so many horror moment. Like the anime ost don't fit nor that much horrible comedy.
Is this one of those memes like "Berserk is the most immersive story ever made because as you read/watch it you feel the same despair as Guts"?
EDIT: Ah fuck, slifer875 already beat me to it.
+Dwėsk It's more like "Berserk 2016/17 is the most realistic anime ever made. The viewers are in just as much agony as Guts is."
What about the 20 years of Casca?
Is it weird that I find Ito's art somewhat beautiful? Maybe it's the line work.
he's put a high level of detail and care into every line and stroke. it's not strange at all.
What? Why on earth would that be weird. Ito is widely recognized for his incredible pen work. I have art-nerd friends who barely read manga that know of Ito's stories and really admire his finesse. He's a master.
That's Guro man, that's the point. the juxtaposition is the reason.
It is beautiful. He’s the reason why I started drawing.
he uses the golden ratio for his characters, that's why his characters look really beautiful, he is also a magnificent artist
(15 minutes of video)...... Studio DEEN
"Well there's your problem!"
One of my favorite horror stories of all time is the Enigma of Amigara Fault. That story still creeps me out. I also love the Gyo story that was published with it. I've never read a horror comic, American or otherwise, that is so effective at giving me the chills.
And I completely agree - the low quality was probably a money decision, hoping the name Junji Ito would give it the attention they were looking for without having to actually try.
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To me, Ito’s work is unadaptable like Berserk or Vagabond. The art is so detailed and part of its identity, that an animation studio would never be able to emulate it right.
5:54 UWU
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My brain reading Junji Ito: HOLY JESUS WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
My brain watching the Junji Ito Collection: Honk shoo honk shoo mimimi
As for examples of scary animation, Courage the Cowardly dog in some episodes pull it perfectly by the use of altering the style of the animation. The "You are not perfect" Monster done with CGI or the Violinist girl done with stop motion where great examples of this, they provided a feeling of uncanny that I cant remember from any other animation. Something similar could have been done with the Ito collection. But well, missed opportunity.
That was such a weird show. It didnt scare me but it intrigued me i love it