Master Class in incompetence: Main Trimmer, sitting like a bump on a log. Driver not paying attention to wind direction. Rest of crew attempting the impossible (reefing a main under full load) Companion way hatch wide open with wind and seas from behind. This video should be required watching for all new crews thinking of participating in ocean sailing as a what not to do.
Hello, everyone, I’m a coastal sailor with no experience in offshore heavy weather sailing. Please tell me what you would do in this situation. I would put the boat on a close-hauled course, use a reefed jib sail (if there is no storm jib), and completely lower the mainsail. If you have experience with heavy weather sailing, please share it with me; I would love to learn. Thanks!
@@amajstrenko if possible reef the main sail more early. drive against the wind and reef the main sail, use your engine, if not possible use storm fock for "heaving to"
@@amajstrenkoseek answer from a qualified instructor not the internet is my first piece of advice. Then find another instructor and see if his advice is the same, also free advice costs nothing and is therefore worthless so pay a professional.
This would have been my action plan: 1. revalue my abilities and my crew's (clearly not great) 2. at 50 knots, go head to wind. 3. pull down the main. 4. securely tie down the mainsail 5. securely centralise the boom 6. tidy the deck. 7. send as many crew as possible into the cabin given the lightning 8. turn on engine and head for the closest port given the wind directions and strength. There is nothing embarrassing about abandoning a race and avoiding injury and boat damage.
Engine not necessary once you have done all the above to ride out squall as safely as possible. In a race it would also DQ yourself. I would deep reef upon seeing the approaching weather. And consider fore reaching, assuming my tack line is upwind. On the run, the deep reef gives them plenty of sail square to the wind and would've been more manageable. A storm jib would also be welcome to keep the boat balanced. Once they got back to running after the knockdown, that sort of speed looked like they were risking a pitchpole. The smaller aforementioned sailplan then makes a heave-to possible, at least long enough to come up with a new plan.
@@peteranoia4570 It's suddenly a survival situation. The priority is the safety of the crew and not damaging the boat. Who cares about being DQ in the race.
Hey everyone. This happened in a matter of a few seconds. You literally see the wind pick up a huge amount in two seconds. Don't judge. Most of us would be screwed as well, and make a lot of mistakes. Just learn, as they probably did.
Suddenly being overpowered? Sure, that shit can happen to even the best. Not pointing up to reduce sail and then UNINTENTIONALLY gybing? Nope, nopety, nope nope. That's an absolute self disqualification right there.
@@aukword6255 There was many reports of wind speed going from 25 knots to 60+ knots AND 180 degree wind shifts in a few seconds. It is easy to suddenly gybe then. No one in their right mind goes into the wind in 60+ knots. The flapping sails will rip in seconds as happened to many contestants. The only thing you can do is run. Only thing they could have done differently would be to fly a storm jib only, which would have prevented the boat from broaching to weather, and allowed them to run in basically any wind.
The guy working the pit was standing in the companionway, improving their sail handling ability. Closing the hatch would have put a major hindrance on them. Other than the gybe, they did an excellent job.
Incredible seamanship the sail trim and heading are a credit to you hiding down below deck level must aid windage verry experienced heavy weather sailors ,great to see you must be english
Crew was lucky. Obviously in way over their heads for this level of weather. Interesting to see the helmsman only decided to clip on his safety harness after the snap gybe. Glad to see that all got back to port safe.
Scary enough. Sure some things could have been done differently. Not that many sailors have encountered squalls as powerful and as unpredictable as this. Apart from extremely experienced sailors I guess fear plays in too making rational decision making quite tricky. Good to hear that you made it home.
Scary, no doubt, but not a lot of sea. Experienced the same thing between Bermuda and the Azores. The jibe was not due to a helmsman error, the wind swirls around and you can't really protect your self from it unless tightly sheeted.
The helmsman turns right without noticing it. You can see the other sailing vessel in front getting out of sight. With these waves letting the boat roll you always need some extra safety angle to not let the wind get behind the sail and do an unwanted jibe. At 1:47 the guy looked to the stern and was only a second away from being dead. Some people have second lifes.
I'm no sailor, but the main sheet gets tangled on the steering and so dude whose head almost got taken off by the boom turns his back on the boom to untangle the steering?
These hands are very lucky....They did not see the front building up? The art and science of Reefing seems alien to the crew. Companionway wide open. Safety harness coming on late, Could have ended much worse but lady luck was with them. Offshore sailors have to be expert at reading weather and taking measures before the situation becomes critical.
During every minute of a windy sailing trip Im looking at the weather, not just sat there having fun as these guys appear to be doing. You can argue all day long about the sails, the helm etc but their biggest failing was not checking the ongoing weather.
Engine on, head into prevailing wind, haul the boom towards centerline, attempt to reef or dowse the main. None of this was done. The crew and helmsman essentially froze and waited for a wind direction or course direction change that could put both the mast and the crew at risk. This video documents stunning incompetence. There are no legitimate excuses for this. The bad weather was likely very visible on radar and undoubtedly could be seen approaching - squalls don't "sneak up" on a boat that's traveling 10 mph. These people likely had several minutes to size up what they were heading into and take necessary steps to safeguard themselves and the rigging. They did neither. In a lot of these cases, people that should know better keep on "racing" when they should be immediately engaging "self preservation mode" for themselves and their vessel.
Noob question here. When a squall hits is the right reaction to: a. Release the sheet and let the main sail fluff. B. Head into the wind (at least beam reach) so you allow the sail to fluff (which is almost impossible when youre in broad reach/dead run)
if you manage to head into the wind is ideal, because you have less stress on mast and shrouds. However, in those situation heading up can be difficult and makes the boat listing a lot. I have been in a similar situation and the helmsman decided to go downwind with full main (we managed to take down the spi but it was impossible to reef)
Dude bros! Seriously? Just because you can afford a nice boat doesn't mean you have the experience. Just in the short video I see at least 4 almost serious fatalities. You put rescuers in danger because you decided to not just roll up and wait it out. Glad you all made it back..
Likely were in the process of dropping the main when the squall hit. When it hits 60 knots it might be better that some of the sail was still up. No way they could lash the entire sail to the boom once the sh*t hit the fan. But WOuld have thought they would have done it earlier. But I gather it went from 12 knots to 60 knots in a a couple of minutes.
Maybe it was a crazy wind change that caught the sail. And maybe they are trying to win the race rather than pussy out. And maybe shit happens to everyone.
Не понятно почему нет рифов и нельзя уменьшить площадь паруса. Сначала шли в бейдевинд, потом сделали поворот фордевинд - очень странно. Я в такой ситуации держу лодку круто к ветру , оттяжка должна быть отдана, чтобы грот мог сбросить порывы. Двигаюсь или стою на части парусов. Молодцы .Смогли снять, в такую погоду не до съёмок. И спокойствие мне понравилось. Крутят там, зачем-то лебёдки и едут потихоньку куда-то.
Perfect example that competition is a senseless waist of time. Working together to get better, all as one instead of all for one. Risking 4 life’s for the captains ego. Sad to see humanity go down like this. Bad you the captain didn’t learn this, even after this, almost, disaster (-_-)
after 10 sec of the video you can anticipate the big mess coming:: trying to reef downwind at 40+ knots is just ridiculous. i would be safer on my JOD35 solo in these conditions rather than part of these crew.....
Going forward lets have these titles just state "gale force winds". I'm so sick of all these bathtub sailors saying, "that's not (x) amount of wind! Blah, blah, blah" Its so tiresome
Wow - total boneheads. We’ve had squalls like that at 65 knots - we saw them coming - (during a race) dumped the genny, double reef in the main BEFORE the squall - fast comfy/scary-ish ride…DUH.
Le type sous la baume, en vent arrière totalement inconscient à ne pas s attendre à l empanage sauvage. Il a eu de la chance de ne pas être KO voir pire.
It's instructive, and I am grateful they made it safely to port and shared this footage.
Master Class in incompetence:
Main Trimmer, sitting like a bump on a log.
Driver not paying attention to wind direction.
Rest of crew attempting the impossible (reefing a main under full load)
Companion way hatch wide open with wind and seas from behind.
This video should be required watching for all new crews thinking of participating in ocean sailing as a what not to do.
Well said. No attempt of slacking off the mainsail and reefing properly.
And then an accidental gybe…..
Hello, everyone,
I’m a coastal sailor with no experience in offshore heavy weather sailing. Please tell me what you would do in this situation. I would put the boat on a close-hauled course, use a reefed jib sail (if there is no storm jib), and completely lower the mainsail.
If you have experience with heavy weather sailing, please share it with me; I would love to learn. Thanks!
@@amajstrenko if possible reef the main sail more early. drive against the wind and reef the main sail, use your engine, if not possible use storm fock for "heaving to"
@@amajstrenkoseek answer from a qualified instructor not the internet is my first piece of advice. Then find another instructor and see if his advice is the same, also free advice costs nothing and is therefore worthless so pay a professional.
Happy to see your film, it mean that you survive
This would have been my action plan:
1. revalue my abilities and my crew's (clearly not great)
2. at 50 knots, go head to wind.
3. pull down the main.
4. securely tie down the mainsail
5. securely centralise the boom
6. tidy the deck.
7. send as many crew as possible into the cabin given the lightning
8. turn on engine and head for the closest port given the wind directions and strength.
There is nothing embarrassing about abandoning a race and avoiding injury and boat damage.
Engine not necessary once you have done all the above to ride out squall as safely as possible. In a race it would also DQ yourself. I would deep reef upon seeing the approaching weather. And consider fore reaching, assuming my tack line is upwind. On the run, the deep reef gives them plenty of sail square to the wind and would've been more manageable. A storm jib would also be welcome to keep the boat balanced. Once they got back to running after the knockdown, that sort of speed looked like they were risking a pitchpole. The smaller aforementioned sailplan then makes a heave-to possible, at least long enough to come up with a new plan.
@@peteranoia4570 It's suddenly a survival situation. The priority is the safety of the crew and not damaging the boat. Who cares about being DQ in the race.
@@peteranoia4570100% spot on 👍🏼
Hey everyone. This happened in a matter of a few seconds. You literally see the wind pick up a huge amount in two seconds. Don't judge. Most of us would be screwed as well, and make a lot of mistakes. Just learn, as they probably did.
perfect considerations
Suddenly being overpowered? Sure, that shit can happen to even the best.
Not pointing up to reduce sail and then UNINTENTIONALLY gybing? Nope, nopety, nope nope. That's an absolute self disqualification right there.
@@aukword6255 There was many reports of wind speed going from 25 knots to 60+ knots AND 180 degree wind shifts in a few seconds. It is easy to suddenly gybe then. No one in their right mind goes into the wind in 60+ knots. The flapping sails will rip in seconds as happened to many contestants. The only thing you can do is run. Only thing they could have done differently would be to fly a storm jib only, which would have prevented the boat from broaching to weather, and allowed them to run in basically any wind.
@hummesse 1:29 a boat going to windward?
Watch the green flag above the helmsman. No sudden wind shift. In fact, sailing by the lee the whole time....
I believe no one was scanning the water surface...
Besides not gybing might have been a good idea to close the companionway
Well they were pretty surprised by the gybe. Heads were dangerously high up!
Clearly not a planned gybe...
The guy working the pit was standing in the companionway, improving their sail handling ability. Closing the hatch would have put a major hindrance on them. Other than the gybe, they did an excellent job.
The Bayesian crew approves.
What is with the sloppy main reef setup ?
Probably putting in the process of dropping the main when the quall hit. At that point it's just hold on.
Underpowered.. need to bag it out a bit.. 😅
Almost impossible to get the main halyard back on with the pressure in the main running downwind. Glad no heads hit on the gybe 🙈
@@verbatim1144 😂😂😂👍🏻
Intentionally scandalized, or just said F-it after taking in the reef, if you can call it that.
Usually by the time you think: "i should reef", its already too late!
Incredible seamanship the sail trim and heading are a credit to you hiding down below deck level must aid windage verry experienced heavy weather sailors ,great to see you must be english
Crew was lucky. Obviously in way over their heads for this level of weather. Interesting to see the helmsman only decided to clip on his safety harness after the snap gybe. Glad to see that all got back to port safe.
Jeez.. not sure I'd want to sail Offshore with that Crew.. 😵💫
Very strong mast guys
Big Dude was lucky the mainsail telegraphed it's gibe
I was pretty sure I was about to witness a death. Why steer so deep and then by the lee for so long ?
Oh my God! What a nightmare. Glad that you arrived finally save in the harbour!
Scary enough. Sure some things could have been done differently. Not that many sailors have encountered squalls as powerful and as unpredictable as this. Apart from extremely experienced sailors I guess fear plays in too making rational decision making quite tricky. Good to hear that you made it home.
Scary, no doubt, but not a lot of sea. Experienced the same thing between Bermuda and the Azores. The jibe was not due to a helmsman error, the wind swirls around and you can't really protect your self from it unless tightly sheeted.
1:27 look at the horizont and waves - he did turn right
and no attempt to turn wheel left
The helmsman turns right without noticing it. You can see the other sailing vessel in front getting out of sight. With these waves letting the boat roll you always need some extra safety angle to not let the wind get behind the sail and do an unwanted jibe.
At 1:47 the guy looked to the stern and was only a second away from being dead. Some people have second lifes.
Those lines look deadly. So does that technique.
why the main?
sudden gust, no time to do much except reef as much as could
Damn and I thought I needed more sailing experience
ITT classic sailor comments: "You're doing it wrong"
Wow, real juicy 'cf' there! A greater power smiled on the incompetent on THAT day!
What a video! Hope your all ok
Very lucky that no one hurt …….. phew 😮
For few centimeters there was a MOB
…or head overboard
Body bag...
That's a lot of force. Lucky they didn't break something.. or someone.
Broke the mfd pod at the helm. You can see it come apart at the end
I'm no sailor, but the main sheet gets tangled on the steering and so dude whose head almost got taken off by the boom turns his back on the boom to untangle the steering?
Helmsman unaware of the gybe tells you everything you need to know.
Niedergang offen, Groß auf halbacht, Patenthalse….wer hat die denn losgeschickt?
One of those ooops moments...
Should they be out there?....
_NO!_
These hands are very lucky....They did not see the front building up? The art and science of Reefing seems alien to the crew. Companionway wide open. Safety harness coming on late, Could have ended much worse but lady luck was with them. Offshore sailors have to be expert at reading weather and taking measures before the situation becomes critical.
Drop the main n host a storm job
During every minute of a windy sailing trip Im looking at the weather, not just sat there having fun as these guys appear to be doing. You can argue all day long about the sails, the helm etc but their biggest failing was not checking the ongoing weather.
Engine on, head into prevailing wind, haul the boom towards centerline, attempt to reef or dowse the main. None of this was done. The crew and helmsman essentially froze and waited for a wind direction or course direction change that could put both the mast and the crew at risk. This video documents stunning incompetence. There are no legitimate excuses for this. The bad weather was likely very visible on radar and undoubtedly could be seen approaching - squalls don't "sneak up" on a boat that's traveling 10 mph. These people likely had several minutes to size up what they were heading into and take necessary steps to safeguard themselves and the rigging. They did neither. In a lot of these cases, people that should know better keep on "racing" when they should be immediately engaging "self preservation mode" for themselves and their vessel.
Why not pointing into the wind and take the punishment on the nose? This gybe was sheer horror
And rip the mainsail in seconds. Sometimes is better to avoid such "clever" suggestions
@@goraninox controlled unloading main - veer left.
one crew to the mast - pull down and drop main.
feed halyard up manually.
downwind use jib not main
Oming about would be next on impossible and they ae making good downwind
The fact that the race organizer is promoting this is scary.
They didn't have a preventer rigged. Helmsman turned down just before the jibe. They were very lucky no one got hit by the boom or mainsheet system.
panic on board, missing control of the boat...hope every one was okey..
You would expect better seamanship. 4 guys, 1 sail up. Could have ended a life.
What a great crew. So calm.
They seemed to come out ok
It was really tough fordewind 🙈🙈🙈
Noob question here. When a squall hits is the right reaction to: a. Release the sheet and let the main sail fluff.
B. Head into the wind (at least beam reach) so you allow the sail to fluff (which is almost impossible when youre in broad reach/dead run)
if you manage to head into the wind is ideal, because you have less stress on mast and shrouds. However, in those situation heading up can be difficult and makes the boat listing a lot. I have been in a similar situation and the helmsman decided to go downwind with full main (we managed to take down the spi but it was impossible to reef)
Just heave to and wait for it to calm down
Big deal.
Reef the main properly.
That's truly not even THAT windy.
Jeasch.
Dude bros! Seriously? Just because you can afford a nice boat doesn't mean you have the experience. Just in the short video I see at least 4 almost serious fatalities. You put rescuers in danger because you decided to not just roll up and wait it out.
Glad you all made it back..
He should have spliced the main brace 😂
Sorry, but the main setup is a mess.
Likely were in the process of dropping the main when the squall hit. When it hits 60 knots it might be better that some of the sail was still up. No way they could lash the entire sail to the boom once the sh*t hit the fan. But WOuld have thought they would have done it earlier. But I gather it went from 12 knots to 60 knots in a a couple of minutes.
You could see it coming, sneaking way to close to dead behind in those conditions??
62 knot squall hits sail boat named "Spirit of the Winds"
Be careful what you name your boats people, otherwise you may be visited by it
V v dangerous gybe
Maybe it was a crazy wind change that caught the sail. And maybe they are trying to win the race rather than pussy out. And maybe shit happens to everyone.
Downwind navigation, five guys in the cockpit and there's not even a boom restraint ? Well done,
what good sailors ! 😡
No way to get that main down, even with hanks. actually a bolt rope may have been easier.
You do not jibe in these conditions. Ever.
There's always that one guy wearing shorts...
When you are not able to manage your sails with 5 men in these conditions, maybe you should golf or play rummikub 😅
Get that helmsman off the wheel. He's ailing way too deep and not paying sufficient attention!
Isn't that a chinese jibe......lucky to have thé mast still in one piece.
Не понятно почему нет рифов и нельзя уменьшить площадь паруса. Сначала шли в бейдевинд, потом сделали поворот фордевинд - очень странно. Я в такой ситуации держу лодку круто к ветру , оттяжка должна быть отдана, чтобы грот мог сбросить порывы. Двигаюсь или стою на части парусов.
Молодцы .Смогли снять, в такую погоду не до съёмок. И спокойствие мне понравилось. Крутят там, зачем-то лебёдки и едут потихоньку куда-то.
Рифы взяты. Бейдевинда не было - был броучинг. В гонке идут не в бейдевинд, а куда надо.
@@yurybolotin1632 Если вы там были, объясните, пожалуйста, что накручивает матрос в красном непромоканце.
Впервые слышу о брочинге под одним гротом..
@@ЕвгенияУральская-г6в почему нет, стаксель действует против брочинга
только то и "cмогли снять" потому что не мешали камере.
и поворот не делали, он сам
поворот при 60 делать нельзя вообще
Perfect example that competition is a senseless waist of time. Working together to get better, all as one instead of all for one.
Risking 4 life’s for the captains ego.
Sad to see humanity go down like this.
Bad you the captain didn’t learn this, even after this, almost, disaster (-_-)
I learn't years ago that wearing the hood on a wind breaker in such situations was asking for trouble, limited vision, I have the scares to prove it.
Yeah....nah!!!!!
after 10 sec of the video you can anticipate the big mess coming:: trying to reef downwind at 40+ knots is just ridiculous.
i would be safer on my JOD35 solo in these conditions rather than part of these crew.....
Scary incompetence....
Auuuuuuu
...headless horseman🌬💋
It’s a mast killer
This was probably caused due to their water bottles being tied to the windward guard rail
Those are water bottles
Going forward lets have these titles just state "gale force winds".
I'm so sick of all these bathtub sailors saying, "that's not (x) amount of wind! Blah, blah, blah"
Its so tiresome
Wow - total boneheads. We’ve had squalls like that at 65 knots - we saw them coming - (during a race) dumped the genny, double reef in the main BEFORE the squall - fast comfy/scary-ish ride…DUH.
FFS!....
Bring it into the wind to reef it…..
No voy ahí ni regalao
Plus à l'aise sans la grand-voile et juste un peu de foc.
всякой шняги на леерах развесили
These guys are amateurs.
how not to sail
Le type sous la baume, en vent arrière totalement inconscient à ne pas s attendre à l empanage sauvage. Il a eu de la chance de ne pas être KO voir pire.
Don’t gyre the main 🤪
Ma guarda quella randa 😂😂 professionisti 😂😂😂