Inside the History: Machine Shop on USS Massachusetts BB-59
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2023
- This video in our "Inside the History" series focuses on the Machine Shop on the USS Massachusetts BB-59, its operation, and historical use. Battleship Gunner's Mate Tom Lowney discusses this area and its use in the life of the WW2 battleship.
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I love that OCS Mids come and help out. It's good to know they get a hands-on connection to their professional heritage.
Nice video - thanks! On one special tour I took of the New Jersey we had the pleasure of talking to a volunteer machinist on board who had served on her when she was active. Great to hear the stories he told like having to make a necessary gear in a short period of time
Not a bender, that is a set of slip rolls. Those old generator welders are a treat to use, so much smoother than a transformer machine.
Thank You Tom, for a great tour.....
Great tour Tom, thanks.
As someone that does machining as a hobby and cares deeply about older manual machines as I have several very old machines I have restored, I winced a bit every time he called a machine the wrong name.😂
Also, you have to cover all non-painted surfaces with oil. Normally this happens just from use but I don't see any oil anywhere. Buy some way oil and start applying it everywhere. You need to run every feature on each machine to their limits, up, down, left, right, back, and forward at least every 6 months and make sure you oil them up with today's equivalent of the manufacturer's recommend oil before use. For all the small tooling spray them liberally with Boeshield. This is what prevents rust.
If anyone from battleship cove is reading the comments this is excellent advice.
Another rust-preventer is a mixture of beeswax and a heavy oil, compounded while the wax is melted. I’ve used two volumes of wax to one of oil.
One warms the rust-prone surface - with, say, a heat gun set on low - prior to rubbing on the wax mixture. This is more like a longer-term solution.
A ready-made equivalent is paste wax.
Note: I *also* do machining for a hobby, in addition to having taken roughly 1 1/2 years of college-level courses involving machine tool operation and have done it for a living. It bothered me when he named a shaper a milling machine! (I’ve seen and run *both!*)
@@dennisyoung4631 and the radial drill.
@@JoeyG1973 there were many of those at Boeing!
Thank you this is great advice and we do try to keep the machines in good working order and well maintained we don't use this shop as much as we would like to not a lot of us are machinists but we do have a couple people who know all about them and plan to do a follow up video on the machines and we will have them oiled thanks for watching
That was excellent. When I came to visit, I had to stay behind the plexiglas. The different camera views in this video give a great view of the state of the machines and their different functions. That frame with the holes in it the cameraperson was showing is an H-frame for a hydraulic press. You just need to get a hydraulic cylinder and a cross beam. The cross beam is held in place by round rods that go through the holes. You all do an excellent job there. I really enjoyed my visit. Thanks for the video about the USS Salem. That is a great ship, too. They let you go down into the engine room.
In my thirty + years of machining found that if one applies 30 Wt. oil at least once a month, the rust will be kept away. Do keep all oil soaked oily rags used in a steel container to prevent possible spontaneous fire. Worked mostly in wet cold PNW conditions in shops that at best were glorified barns with no heat in temps above 100F to well below 20F, with machining machines from 1890 thru brand new 2000s. Most of the time in cold weather the only heat were personal portable propane catalytic heaters, and that type of heater releases a lot of water vapor. WD-40 will evaporate all too easily too soon. After all, it is a penetrating oil meant to work its way into tight areas that have gotten rusty, and is only to loosen up the area. As a level five machinist I've seen rust happen with WD-40 in the USAF over just a weekend on a dual tracer mill used for the B-1 bomber repairs, in the near desert conditions of N. Texas. Do also work the carriages on the lathes and mills back and forth some to work the oil under them and any water out. Tight spaces make for good capillary action to suck in water, so oil has to be worked into those areas to keep out the water. Thanks for the tour of the shop!!
Does Marvel Mystery Oil work decently as a rust-preventer, or does one wish something more like Vactra #2?
@@dennisyoung4631 Personally do not know, but at $25 a gallon, you should be able to get a no name 30 Wt. for less. You could try some Mystery oil and see. I do have a Judson supercharger for early 1960s VWs that recommends Mystery oil!
Been working in machine shops for 25 years last November ! But on a stable concrete floor... Mad respect to those sailors working in such a chaotic environment !! When a critical component failed, I don't think you would have to wait for calm seas to keep the ship operationnal!
At 1:43, that’s a *shaper,* not a milling machine. Note that it says what it is on the side - “9 inch shaper,” which is a little bigger than what someone I know has.
They can be *hypnotic* to watch when they are cutting metal.
Used to run one very similar to that one. Ours still had the property of U S government placard on it with the date from WWI.
by the way, your Cincinnati 'Milling machine' is a Radial Drill....
a very fine piece of equipment to have for drilling big holes....
I personally have drilled 4 inch holes in 4 inch thick steel with the
one in the old shop I worked in......love those machines...
Great video!! Thank you for sharing!!
Great job on the video, and on preserving history.
I've toured BB-55's machine shop since I was a child. I've been an machinist for almost 40 years and learned on some machine tools of 40's vintage.
Looks great. Awesome work on keeping everything in shape
My grandfather was on the Massachusetts when she was taken to Portsmouth Va for decommissioning. All I can find are Muster rolls where he was a S2 then a S1. Nov 1946-Apr 1947 best I can tell. He never talked about it because he said he didn't help the war effort and never wanted credit for anything. I enjoy these videos so much and would love to make it up and visit the ship sometime.
Thank you sir, great job explaining .
Hi Tom, Your tour reminded me of when after college I worked in a small Machine Shop in Lebanon, Ct. repairing parts for Textile machinery from American Thread Corporation formerly of Willimantic, Ct.. Hope you can find some local retired machinists to man your shop as it could be of great value to the fleet at Battleship Cove. Happy New Year to all at the cove.
Its a shame they are letting everything rust. You need to keep everything oiled and keep air moving across the machines 24-7 to stop the rust. It works
There's some of these machines still in use today. My monarch 20"by 120" lathe came from Anderws airforce base to Alcoa mining and on to me.
Actually that welder can do TIG welding besides stick welding.....love your shop, I have a 1942 13" South Bend lathe
in my welding shop along with a very similar milling machine like yours. of course , I would love to have a Hendy or
Lodge and Shipley like yours.....
I wish I had gotten to see all this when I was on the ship in 1980.....my father is from New Bedford and was a
WWII veteran who served in the South West Pacific with the Army......he also worked at Morse Tools in New Bedford
before the war.....got to love Morse, who invented the twist drill and the Morse Taper like your lathes are designed for,
like even most modern lathes.....best wishes from an old codger in Florida, Paul
and you are correct in saying the machines can be dangerous.....with all those hand wheels to turn, any kid or adult
would want to be spinning them.....a good coat of a water displacement lube like WD-40 might be a good idea to
keep the flash rust down when you go from a cold day to a warm day real fast,,,,we even have that in our shop......
and it is not on the water in the depths of a steel hull......Cheers
That's pretty cool that you have a working machine shop! Have you done any videos of actually making anything for any of the ships?
Have a machinist give us a tour!
we are doing just that we are filming the second part with 2 people who know and use all the equipment in there
Awesome video👍👍 if you want to stop the flash rust use atf automatic transmission fluid wipe all bare cast iron down with it and it won’t rust again it soaks in and protects.
Kano labs aka Kroil, makes a clear product that protects machined surfaces for about a year. Wipes on easy and does not interfere with the machine tools. Oily hands are no problem. I use this on chucks, ways etc.
Calls a shaper a milling machine
"I'm familiar with most of these machines"
@@funone8716 “Hast thou *RUN* them, sir? Held tolerances of 0.001, plus and minus? Made tooling?”
@@dennisyoung4631 YOU Betcha.......46 years and counting. Intimately familiar with every machine shown in the video. Welding and fabricating as well.
I love these old ship shops. Mighty Mo has several machines identical to mine including a 36 in Rockford planer. The removed two Sydney metal lathes and replaced them with a monarch 10EE. How the heck was that done. Isn’t the only way in thru Broadway?
A light coating of WD-40 will do wonders on preventing the flash rust.
To all the dedicated people who look out for the Historic US Battle Fleet much thanks .
Nice as a wiper my favorite 😎
Its a real shame that MN Jean Bart could not be preserved,
Gotta agree. Jean Bart or Richelieu would have been astonishing museum ships.
@@F-Man Perhaps most of all, KMS Prinz Eugen, that cruiser deserved far better, she said with KMS Bismarck on her first voyage, fought beside her in the Battle of the Denmark Straight, drew first blood on HMS Hood and scored hits on HMS Prince of Wales, provided covering fire for the German Armies retreat,
HMS Warspite, Duke of York or Vanguard, definitely the last one,
OCS. Not just a job but an adventure.
Nice stuff. Looks ready to rumble too. Nice shop too.. what a waste to be sitting there. Those machine tools are work horses.. accurate as the operator/set up man using them..
The first machine you pointed out is a shaper not a milling machine
Yeah we know and we let tom know about it a lot but he is a gunners mate so we cut him some slack we are going to do a follow up video with a couple people who use and know all about these machines soon
Boelube stick will stop the flash rust at bay.
Or LPS 1, LPS 2 or LPS 3
Or - perhaps - Marvel Mystery Oil?
What's the most common thing that needs to be repaired still?
Rust holes in the hull
Actually not rust holes on the hull we went to drydock in 1999 our hull is in great shape its the thinner superstructure where we have a bit of rain water intrusion from some holes she is a lot thinner topside then below the waterline after that its our teak deck and painting the ship that is top on our list and of course the restoration of spaces so we can open more of the ship to the public
1 of my friends worked at a shop that had a mill frome a ww2 ship and this is in GR MI they sold them to anyone that had the money after the war for far less than what the historical value was
Is the mill a Wells Index? Wells index still makes mills that are more or less identical to the ones they made in WW2. In fact they are the last mill that is 100 percent made in the USA.
No machine shop like that on a submarine...
The fleet subs had a lathe and a knee milling machine, I'm pretty sure. Repairing valves and pumps would be the most important task.
Thats a shaper,sport,not a mill