@s1rhcs1vad To be fair he has opened hundreds of locks on video, with many of them being way more complicated or touted as "pick proof". I would gather that the lock on this thing is a bit more simple than some of those models. It makes total sense that this specific lock wouldn't be anything exactly new, and therefore can be skipped. Being skeptical is good and all, but it seems entirely misplaced in this context. I don't think i've seen anyone so salty over something so minor as this lol. You from Shotlock or something?
It's meaningful, too. One of the big reasons to use a gun safe is to keep your children out of it so they don't end up making a really big mistake. But if a kid is curious about it, the notebook wire hack is something they could work out for themselves.
That doesn't sound like LPL. He would probably speak to it in a calm manner and it would just open. I'm sure my front door will open if he just smiles at it.
MacGyver: A paper clip, the inner tube of a bicycle wheel, an actual piece of human hair, chewing gum, and a potted plant LockPickingLawyer: *tap it on it's side*
Hey, please don't pick on MacGyver, he was the best media ever had, until they f*** him to death with the new series, RIP MacGyver, the money hating capitalist, the social NGO member and the weapon hating us-american. 💐
@@upsidedown4155 man, security business doesn't work this way, if your product failed you lose buyers. Reason why they pick cheap solutions is lower risk.
@@EliasMcCloud i know buddy its the other costs behind a simple spring, a weaker spring means when purchased in bulk they save money due to less weight in transportation and dispatch, plus they prob use the same spring on another product so even more cost cutting, then redesign, training the assemblers, i agree its stupid bit thats the nature of business if you can save a percent of weight on a part its more pure profit, there are 2 things in this world the ethical way where things are done right and the business way where its all about minimizing the over heads to so the ceo can pay for that new ferrari every other week
I love that in this scenario he didn't even need a tool. So I've seen him open a safe with a fork, a safe with a spoon, a gun trigger lock with a lego, a gun lock with a twig and a magnetic lock with a paperclip.
Opening it with gravity, he doesn't need a tool but when he used the makeshift wire thing, that is basically a tool. Same with things like forks, spoons, and legos. Some monkeys use sticks for example to pick out ants from a log so in that example, the stick is being used as a tool. A tool is just anything that isn't an immediate extension of yourself that you use for a specific purpose so even if you clip a fingernail off and use that, it's still technically a tool.
Me as a criminal: *breaks into office through window* *sees safe* *looks up lpl video on the safe and follows it like a step by step guide to picking it open*
I'd love to see the faces of the officers looking at security footage and hear you say "nothing on one... two is binding... nothing on three... now back from the beginning"
Sometimes I wonder how this dude finds bypasses like this? Like, this is such a specific action to perform, its like he had to discover this on accident. It's like speedrunners who spend hours in games trying to find very specific hitbox glitches or places they can clip through the map to win faster.
I subscribed to this channel even though I did not much care for lockpicking. Seeing people's passions and niche hobbies makes me very happy and I'm definitely gaining an interest.
Normally, I’m like: “yeah... but LPL is a pro... so it’s a bit like saying it’s easy to play basketball if you’re LeBron.” ... but this is just ridiculous.
As usual, a device intended for safety and security is made unsafe and insecure because of cost-cutting measures. Would it seriously have cost THAT much extra to weld the corners shut?
LPL: “We’ll take this down to the garage and show you how it’s done.” Lock Box: “ *NOOOOOO!!!!! NOT THE GARAGE!!!!* “ LPL: “Okay, we’re back upstairs.” Lock Box: shivers “Hehehehe I’m alive! *I’m ALIVE!!!!* “
Seriously, you need to start a secondary channel where you solve puzzles and puzzle boxes. Because of the way you find the most obscure exploits in things, you would probably solve puzzle boxes in record times.
One day, I fully expect to hear from the other side of the house; "This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and I just opened your front door...in any case, that's all I have for you today".
@@billcook4768 True, no security is flawless. The only thing you can do is minimize attack vectors, and have multiple layers of protection, all depending on how valuable the thing you're trying to protect is, and how likely it will be attacked.
@@pvanukoff Makes me imagine a thief bypassing a dozen locks through exploiting weaknesses, and when he/she opens the safe, a half eaten grilled cheese sandwich is the only thing stored there
If the lock is only susceptible to picking, I'd still go for it. (Not if you can rake it, though.) But if you can open it with such a simple attack like in this case - nah. Keep in mind, most thieves won't go through the trouble of picking a lock, but just dropping a box on its corner is way too easy.
Thank you for the review. Looks like the drop one can be easily negated by bolting it down. For a quick access safe these are not too bad and very simple. No batteries required.
They probably do. It's not their goal to deliver maximum security but to deliver most profit for the owners of company. So they create 'good enough' for particular definition of 'good' and just sell it. And frankly speaking, if a thief can steal your safe they will cut through eventually and if it's mounter, they could have used a crowbar etc. Or it would be a serious piece of safe box for serious money. Not many customers for such a product, I guess. It does its job - when mounted it protects against random opening by kids. A kid determined enough would use a crowbar anyway so the notebook exploit is interesting but not really a distaster. I would say it's quite a safe and the only thing I would modify would be that actuator inside - I would add a better spring so it does resist a bit.
I would really love to see an actually good product from time to time. I love his meme openings, but it’s starting to make me a little sad. There have got to be some really good quality, small production safes, bike lock, pad locks out there... right... guys... right!?
Maybe if you really wanted good luck you could use one of the padlocks which LPL has specifically shown their weaknesses. And you could just shorre up the weaknesses. Probably to achieve any kind of good luck you're going to have to do some modifications.
It would be interesting to add tips how to fix the weaknesses, for the already-owners, like closing the hole (obviously) or replacing the spring holding the lever (can this be done without interfering with the regular opening mechanism?).
I'm the LPL and I will mercilessly crush the security features on this $150 box in 3...Done!...2...1...Done Again! My favorite part of this clip is LPL going MacGyver by poaching a piece of wire from the spiral bound notebook. Like a boss!
Interesting clip. I'd add that the purpose of this type of lock is not to prevent theft but rather to keep children or senile elderly from accessing a firearm. For that purpose, I think it is designed perfectly for the price.
Your picking skills are impressive. Your ability to think of ways to exploit the weak spots in the various mechanisms you come across is amazing. I expect the manufacturer will be adding a spring to that lever to prevent your attacks if they see this video, if it wouldn't interfere with the normal operation of the lock.
Will you please mention or do a series of videos on how to easily harden some of the locks like this? You mention that it is an easy fix. If this could be improved with a spring or some JB weld, it would be helpful for those that bought an item like this before seeing your review.
Have someone add a welding point over the literal security hole to prevent the wire attack and have the lever Springloaded against the backwall of the housing to prevent or at least make the drop attack harder. Obviously the spring has to be attached in a way that it doesn't easily fly off when dropped.
I'm assuming LPL doesn't want to take on the liability of suggesting ways to add security to a product. (If he makes such a reccomendation and a thief steals your stuff anyway, you COULD sue.) As for this particular product, the drop attack seems to only work if the safe can be dropped, so bolt it down. And the hole in the corner just needs to be plugged with something that can't easily be pushed aside, so yeah, JB Weld it. (I'm not worried about the aforementioned liability potential because if you do these things and your stuff still gets stolen, YOU should have done a better job of it :) )
@@Dwayne_Bearup Good point; I think that is completely valid. I guess it is up to us do discuss possible options (as long as that does not result in us being liable).
Wow what a compliment from LPL. If I was the manufacturer of that lock box, I’d put a new core in it, weld that hole shut, and put some extra tension on that bar in hopes of a revisited review in the future. The price of it might go up, but if it meant a recommendation from LPL, it’s worth it.
When the zombie apocalypse comes I want LPL on my team. He likes guns (I think), could break into just about anywhere, and is quite a smart guy. Why he's not a lock or safe proof of concept vulnerability consultant is beyond me.
It's perfect to keep sticky fingers from lifting important items. eg; It's not really meant to be fort-knox. It's to keep would-be easy-picking thieves from just picking up money or items and walking away. Sure, they COULD run the risk of picking it, or trying to take the entire box-- or breaking it... all of which are LOUD usually, very time-consuming or just dangerous if you get caught. It's like the stupid dinky locks on food-shelves, keeps kids out or atleast makes it hard enough and loud enough for parents to notice. This little thing does it's job nicely and by no means should be considered a end-all-be-all solution. I keep spare ammo/mags/cleaning supplies in seperate smaller safes inside the big safe. It just slows someone down... better to have a shitty safe that makes someone think, hesitate or work for 1 minuet rather than none at all! :)
@lockpickinglawyer Just a consideration for a few easy fixes: 1) soldering the corner holes shut would end the wire bypass 2) possibly replacing the spring that engages that bar with a stronger tension could prevent the impact bypass, although this is less likely to work and more tedious than the product is worth
You can put as many locks as you want on your door but don’t forget there is always the bottom of somebody’s shoe a.k.a. kick the damn door in or windows unless you want to put bars on all of your windows or to be quite honest the wall next to your door all it takes is cordless circular saw and construction vest and somebody’s in your house without raising an eyebrow so in other words put a decent lock on your door and make sure that your homeowners insurance is up-to-date If you’re worried about somebody breaking in to cause harm just keep a pistol hidden somewhere that nobody would expect to find it and meet the asshole with the business end of it
Bolt it down, seal the holes with a little jb weld, and if you're worried about picking you could seal the override lock as well and only use the code lock. It's not a perfect solution but it's a solution.
Not gonna lie, this locking box would have been pretty good if they changed those few problems. Cover the corner holes with something, and made that lever that unlocks it smaller or maybe put a spring on it.
Well, easy fixes: JB Weld on the holes at the corner. A stiffer spring on the unlocking bar. He already said the lock, while pickable, was better than most, and the mechanical push buttons require correct entry sequence. It looks like the manufacturer was trying to make a decent box, but missed a couple of things out of ignorance. I hope LPL reached out to them with his suggestions to make it better.
He buys the locks, takes them apart and learns how they work, and then he figures out how to exploit it. By knowing how something works and how it's designed you can easily figure out how to bypass or exploit it.
You're a legend LPL. Beautiful deconstruction of a half decent product, hopefully they'll follow through and make changes. Hell, if they were wise they might even consult you or send you V2 to test. A glowing recommendation on video from you would go a long way these days.
"Opened With a Notebook" Me to Me: Yea, its gonna be a high tech stuff, and you need some decryption software ran on a certain model of notebook or smth. I'M VERY DISAPOINTED!
It is great that you make us aware of all the poor quality locks and safes but it would be nice if you could show us some products that are actually good.
Quick question: Have you ever picked a lock by ear? *Long* story ahead:- I had to pick the lock to the key safe outside the flats I lived in so I could gain access to the main building, and thus my flat which was inside. The housing agency denied me access to the main door of the building because I didn't accept the terms of the new contract they served to me. I contended it, so they changed the main door lock and gave everyone, who signed the new contract, a key... except for me. Since I was already inside the flats when they changed the lock on the main door, I decided to go down at night and crack the key safe code _(it was a mechanical lock where you needed to depress certain buttons to unlock the key safe, not in any specific order)._ Since I'm a sound engineer, I have very good listening skills. I could hear the difference in the sound the lock made when holding the "clear" button while pressing each number individually. It took me about 2 mins to crack the lock. The housing agency had no idea how I was getting in and out. It was quite exhilarating, knowing I could circumvent their measures to try to prevent me from entering the flats where I f***ing lived, and where I hadn't gone against any contractual obligations. Large corporations sometimes have no empathy for individuals when it comes to taking their rights away ("right to privacy" in my case). P.S. The new contract would allow them an _"unfettered right of access",_ meaning they could access the property at any time, even without knocking. They wanted a locksmith to remove the deadlock from everyone's front doors. I declined and left it locked. Totally wrong, and I'm so glad I stood my ground.
Many thanks LPL. A friend rec’d one of these for Christmas and looks like a spot weld and bolting down will improve this significantly. Hopefully ShotLock will make a few easy mods to improve this box.
So now that you know the security weaknesses of this particular product you can make it stronger. Just put some JB Weld in that hole and then bolt it to a shelf.
@@Dwayne_Bearup that's a good idea. I was just thinking of writing off the whole thing as a piece of junk. Though it's a bit irksome to have to finish the company's job for them.
If you have one of these, you could easily put a piece of metal in to defeat the wire attack. You could also bolt it down. That would solve 2 of the 3 problems with really not too much effort. He did say that the lock was better than some. So really, for a negligible amount you could fix the big issues with this.
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"You've seen me pick enough locks."
N-no!
B-baka!
When did he said this?
ammar zafri 0:40 in this video
Thats... why I'm here
'Let's go to the garage rn and show you how it's done' mmm doujin manuacript material.
I would love to see a manufacturers reaction real time and recorded. Just like when game developers watch people speed run their games.
"Lock company CEO reacts" is a series I would definitely watch! 😆 Get right on it LPL! If anyone has the reach and expertiseto do this, it's you.
they know. they also know that it doesn’t matter.
@s1rhcs1vad To be fair he has opened hundreds of locks on video, with many of them being way more complicated or touted as "pick proof". I would gather that the lock on this thing is a bit more simple than some of those models. It makes total sense that this specific lock wouldn't be anything exactly new, and therefore can be skipped. Being skeptical is good and all, but it seems entirely misplaced in this context. I don't think i've seen anyone so salty over something so minor as this lol. You from Shotlock or something?
@s1rhcs1vad he can pick that lock very easily. Watch his other videos of far more complicated locks. And he has won lock picking competitions of note.
@s1rhcs1vad I assume this must be satire, intended to show what the parent comment asked for, the company responding.
Orange bottle, Lego, Notebook... maybe one day, we'll get an episode where he'll open the lock using a key !
If he does, it will be the wrong key for the lock. And he won't ues it to turn the core.
Using the key is always slower than picking for lpl
He already have video(s) using juggler keys. :P
Or use the key in a way that would make one initially say, "that's not how you use a key.... oooooh..."
He has already done that. Search his channel for "TSA Key". basically the TSA has 7 different (commercially sold) master keys for travel locks.
I love these MacGyver lock picks! "I could have used an expensive lock pick but I had this stale dorito laying on my desk that was closer."
Pisses myself laughing at this 😂
It's meaningful, too. One of the big reasons to use a gun safe is to keep your children out of it so they don't end up making a really big mistake. But if a kid is curious about it, the notebook wire hack is something they could work out for themselves.
LMFAO, DORITO
Like the piece of Red Bull can tool.
You came up with that because you have stale Doritos on your desk! (
Me: "Hmm.. Almost 4 minute video.. Must be somewhat decent lock."
LPL: Shows 2 ways to open it in 1 second flat
Me: -_-
the most embarrassing thing is you don't need anything except gravity for first exploit.
@@pandabuluk You dont even need gravity. Just slam the corner into anything and the exploit will work.
@@pandabuluk Nah, could do it against the wall too with more force. Gravity just does some of the work for you.
@@mKnotify th-cam.com/video/otCpCn0l4Wo/w-d-xo.html
MacGyver style
LPL - "Oops I dropped it..."
Safe - "I don't want no trouble, I'll just unlock"
I can't wait for "This is the Lockpicking Lawyer and today I'm going to open a lock by yelling at it."
Hahahahahahahaha!
Nope, he'll Bob Ross the lock. LPL is too calm to yell.
Or Granny Weatherwax style
Just by glaring at it.
Like that scene in Johnny English where he tries to open the lock by whistling...
That doesn't sound like LPL. He would probably speak to it in a calm manner and it would just open. I'm sure my front door will open if he just smiles at it.
Really appreciate how you are using everyday items to demonstrate weaknesses. Not everyone has a custom tool that bosnianbill and I made
MacGyver: A paper clip, the inner tube of a bicycle wheel, an actual piece of human hair, chewing gum, and a potted plant
LockPickingLawyer: *tap it on it's side*
lol
That seems to be why we like LPL. HE'S BETTER THAN MACGYVER .
This IS the exploit .
This is why it works .
This is why you should avoid it .
He’s more like Rocket 🚀 in Guardians or the Galaxy. Or should I call you prisoner 8931P?
We are going to need that prisoners false leg 🦵.
Hey, please don't pick on MacGyver, he was the best media ever had, until they f*** him to death with the new series, RIP MacGyver, the money hating capitalist, the social NGO member and the weapon hating us-american. 💐
Someone should make a McGyver style theme video about Lpl
When the title said 'notebook' I though he was going the slap it with the notebook like hitting a puppy with a newspaper. "Bad safe, bad safe."
Well, he did give it a good slap with the table
Sad thing is, if he hit it while holding it at an angle (with his 3rd hand, of course) he could actually replicate the drop exploit.
why would you hit a puppy?? it's both a baby and a dog!
just hit it on the corner and it pops open.
'picking a lock by dropping it'
Continue the "improved" picking.
now that's a lock even Linus could pick
Ben Snow LTT?
@@RayaanFaisal definetly
that's how I opened a safe at work when they forgot the combination.
Since the little latch needs inertia and thusly movement of the box, hitting it while it is fixed to the wall will not do anything.
It seems LPL has reached level 100 in lockpicking, which grants the perk: "lock picks no longer required to unlock simple locks"
In Fallout 3 and New Vegas at 100 lockpick skill you can force "Very Easy" locks with a 100% success rate.
Looks like an opportunity for some Security Sponge.
Seriously, just a spring with more tension so the lever can't be moved so easily is needed.
LMAO dude, it could improve the security of the lock af 😂
Springload the lever significantly for the Drop Attack and weld the hole shut to not have a literal security hole.
@@upsidedown4155 man, security business doesn't work this way, if your product failed you lose buyers. Reason why they pick cheap solutions is lower risk.
@@upsidedown4155 also, a spring does not increase that much the cost
@@EliasMcCloud i know buddy its the other costs behind a simple spring, a weaker spring means when purchased in bulk they save money due to less weight in transportation and dispatch, plus they prob use the same spring on another product so even more cost cutting, then redesign, training the assemblers, i agree its stupid bit thats the nature of business if you can save a percent of weight on a part its more pure profit, there are 2 things in this world the ethical way where things are done right and the business way where its all about minimizing the over heads to so the ceo can pay for that new ferrari every other week
I love that in this scenario he didn't even need a tool.
So I've seen him open a safe with a fork, a safe with a spoon, a gun trigger lock with a lego, a gun lock with a twig and a magnetic lock with a paperclip.
and many locks using one can of red bull.
Opening it with gravity, he doesn't need a tool but when he used the makeshift wire thing, that is basically a tool. Same with things like forks, spoons, and legos. Some monkeys use sticks for example to pick out ants from a log so in that example, the stick is being used as a tool. A tool is just anything that isn't an immediate extension of yourself that you use for a specific purpose so even if you clip a fingernail off and use that, it's still technically a tool.
"Knock knock, who's..."
*the box opens*
Good one 🤣
Too many knocks
"Knock knock, who's..."
"This is the LockPickingLawyer, and what I have for you today..."
Yzma: “Why do we even HAVE that lever?!”
WRONG LEVERRRRRRRRRrrr
Azukar
I do believe this is the first time I’ve seen a quote from that movie on the internet.
excellent reference!
"This is the DropKickingLawyer."
(Opens it the third time by dropping it)
ShotLock: STOP! STOP!!! HE'S ALREADY DEAD!!!
"This is the LockPickingLawyer and what I have for you today is another disappointment"
Best commemt
I'm in this sentence and don't really like that
That should be his actual intro.
Sadly I still think this is one of the best small gun boxes you've shown us. A couple home mods and it's really good.
"Hi everyone I am the lock picking lawyer and today I will open this lock with gravity"
Inertia. Also works in space.
@@wocket42 I fear the day that we have to worry about space thieves
@@burnttoast6974 since internet is a signal that gets semt to and from space, are all internet thieves space thieves?
@@jongameaddict your computer sends requests for information, and then that information gets sent back to you. i dont think theres any theft in there?
@@burnttoast6974 no I'm saying that because of that, internet thieves are space thieves
"Honey, get me my gun someone breaking in"
"But dear I don't know the combination"
"Just drop it on its corner, it will open"
i would almost consider that a feature.
"Just drop it on its corner, it will open. That's faster anyway!"
FTFY
Here’s the notebook that BosnianBill and I used when designing the lock pick that BosnianBill and I made.
Erin Sherman I came here to say this too!
LOL, that's probably the same notebook BB & LPL used when they were in high school. Waaaaaaay back in time. =))
Scrolled comments looking for a Bosnian Bill reference. Not disappointed.
The stock just dropped to 10 cents per stock!
Lol
Nah, that's too much. A dime buys the entire business
Hate it that stock changes are shown in dollars absolute, not relative
and in doing so, opened the vault.
Lol
I bet you can open the lock with a combination.
LPL: Hmmm, I never thought of that. Wouldn't that take longer though?
"This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today we're going to pick this lock with a breath of fresh air."
You can just see the advertisement - "our lock is so good LPL didn't even try to pick it". Heh.
Pretty soon marketing departments will start putting on " LPL Approved"
That lock would sell like hotcakes!
@@RickSaffery my brain read that as "like Hotpockets"
@@RickSaffery until the day LPL accepts their challenge, that is.
Lpl: Complementing the box, its lock, and its backup lock.
Also Lpl: tap, click. There you go, one of three effortless ways to open this box
An almost 4 min video from LPL. Must have been a super hard lock to pick. ummm Nope.
It just took longer because he had to take it downstairs.
And don't forget he returned upstairs too.
@@tsunjin673 Plus he had to cut that wire out of the notebook ;)
And he showed two methods to open it.
So by using some math, the video without this all lasts like 1,5 min?
i have to compliment you. you really do know how to show your contempt for the bad locks.
"gonna be using this Notebook wire that BosnianBill and I made..."
"Lets get the notebook that BosnianBill and I doodle in"
Gonna use this garage shelf that bosnianbill and I installed
Going to use this child that bosnianbill and I made.
"Gonna use the BosnianBill lockpick and I made."
Gonna be using this BosnianBill that a lock and I made
This guy just gets better and better,never ceases to amaze me....always brings a smile to my day.
Me as a criminal: *breaks into office through window*
*sees safe*
*looks up lpl video on the safe and follows it like a step by step guide to picking it open*
@Yevhenii Diomidov Only youtube?
Well, at least the thief can look at some porn.
I'd love to see the faces of the officers looking at security footage and hear you say "nothing on one... two is binding... nothing on three... now back from the beginning"
@@andregon4366 i mean, we're not animals.. people need porn
You're crazy if you think you can do what LPL does just by watching a TH-cam video.
Takes notepad out of office desk to pick it with, wondering why the tutorial siad to use it
Sometimes I wonder how this dude finds bypasses like this? Like, this is such a specific action to perform, its like he had to discover this on accident.
It's like speedrunners who spend hours in games trying to find very specific hitbox glitches or places they can clip through the map to win faster.
probably mostly by opening the lock "correctly" and peeking at the internals first and testing the ones that might work
When you open the lockbox with the lockbox
*LockPickingLawyer:* I used the lockbox to destroy the lockbox. And it almost killed me...
RhinoBarbarian fool, the lockpickinglawyer cannot be killed!
"Where is the combination?"
"Gone, reduced to wires."
I subscribed to this channel even though I did not much care for lockpicking. Seeing people's passions and niche hobbies makes me very happy and I'm definitely gaining an interest.
Normally, I’m like: “yeah... but LPL is a pro... so it’s a bit like saying it’s easy to play basketball if you’re LeBron.”
... but this is just ridiculous.
Yea most of these really extremely priced gun locks can be opened by very unskilled attacks.
How many did he just open with a 5€ magnet?
As usual, a device intended for safety and security is made unsafe and insecure because of cost-cutting measures. Would it seriously have cost THAT much extra to weld the corners shut?
My thoughts exactly.
hell you can fix this easily enough with a hammer, I would think.
LPL: “We’ll take this down to the garage and show you how it’s done.”
Lock Box: “ *NOOOOOO!!!!! NOT THE GARAGE!!!!* “
LPL: “Okay, we’re back upstairs.”
Lock Box: shivers “Hehehehe I’m alive! *I’m ALIVE!!!!* “
Fried Pi 3.14159 “NNNOOOOO. NOT THE WIRE! please?! THAT’S A WAR CRIME! Gaaahjkodif tnlgurbtbfj.”
-every lock ever
@@collectiblesforyou1252 "Take him to Detroit!" "NOO! NOOOOO! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!"
Fried Pi 3.14159 😂😂 I guess that doesn’t happen much... usually the broken and shamed shards of the lock are all that make it back.
@@TWX1138 You have my gratitude.
Eh, the garage ain't so bad. It's when he heads out to the gunrange that you need to worry.
"You've seen me pick enough locks".
A point of some contention, I would think.
Seriously, you need to start a secondary channel where you solve puzzles and puzzle boxes. Because of the way you find the most obscure exploits in things, you would probably solve puzzle boxes in record times.
One day, I fully expect to hear from the other side of the house; "This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and I just opened your front door...in any case, that's all I have for you today".
This sounds like the people who want Gordon Ramsey to Curse Them Out as they cook it would be a dream come true if I ever got that experience
Seriously, he's recommended to avoid so many things that I would just buy any lock and hope he's not around.
the best lock for steel box is a welder, LPL might have a chance to pick it
My takeaway is to assume that any lock is relatively easy to pick/bypass and plan accordingly.
@@billcook4768 True, no security is flawless. The only thing you can do is minimize attack vectors, and have multiple layers of protection, all depending on how valuable the thing you're trying to protect is, and how likely it will be attacked.
@@pvanukoff
Makes me imagine a thief bypassing a dozen locks through exploiting weaknesses, and when he/she opens the safe, a half eaten grilled cheese sandwich is the only thing stored there
If the lock is only susceptible to picking, I'd still go for it. (Not if you can rake it, though.) But if you can open it with such a simple attack like in this case - nah. Keep in mind, most thieves won't go through the trouble of picking a lock, but just dropping a box on its corner is way too easy.
Thank you for the review. Looks like the drop one can be easily negated by bolting it down. For a quick access safe these are not too bad and very simple. No batteries required.
*Me:* Box looks tough, must need a Ramset.
*LPL:* Hmm, I think I'll use a bit of wire today.
I'd like to see all his videos end with a Ramset attack.
I don’t understand why these companies don’t have a locksmith on the payroll to test the design before it goes to manufacturing .
They probably do. It's not their goal to deliver maximum security but to deliver most profit for the owners of company. So they create 'good enough' for particular definition of 'good' and just sell it. And frankly speaking, if a thief can steal your safe they will cut through eventually and if it's mounter, they could have used a crowbar etc. Or it would be a serious piece of safe box for serious money. Not many customers for such a product, I guess.
It does its job - when mounted it protects against random opening by kids. A kid determined enough would use a crowbar anyway so the notebook exploit is interesting but not really a distaster. I would say it's quite a safe and the only thing I would modify would be that actuator inside - I would add a better spring so it does resist a bit.
I would really love to see an actually good product from time to time. I love his meme openings, but it’s starting to make me a little sad. There have got to be some really good quality, small production safes, bike lock, pad locks out there... right... guys... right!?
He and Bosnian Bill discussed their naughty buckets, where they put really tough locks. Any of those should be fine.
Locks are simply a deterrent
Maybe if you really wanted good luck you could use one of the padlocks which LPL has specifically shown their weaknesses. And you could just shorre up the weaknesses. Probably to achieve any kind of good luck you're going to have to do some modifications.
Top 10 nastiest key ways video
I understand that there are a couple videos that show hard to open locks. I’m simply asking for more. I’ve already seen all of those.
It would be interesting to add tips how to fix the weaknesses, for the already-owners, like closing the hole (obviously) or replacing the spring holding the lever (can this be done without interfering with the regular opening mechanism?).
I would think even a dab of jb weld in that corner would be a big help.
Brute force lockpicking. Fastest i've seen so far, lol
I'm the LPL and I will mercilessly crush the security features on this $150 box in 3...Done!...2...1...Done Again! My favorite part of this clip is LPL going MacGyver by poaching a piece of wire from the spiral bound notebook. Like a boss!
have used and will continue to use your videos to help purchase locks. keep up the great work!
I have a Master 175 on my work locker.
Interesting clip. I'd add that the purpose of this type of lock is not to prevent theft but rather to keep children or senile elderly from accessing a firearm. For that purpose, I think it is designed perfectly for the price.
I'm just pleased to hear the company provides the mounting holes at no extra charge 😁
And the screws :) (Of course, they should throw in a package of JB Weld as well LOL)
@@Dwayne_Bearup Heck you could probably tap the front with a hammer in the corners to bend the metal enough to close up those holes if nothing else.
@@mattriggs301 And that would probably be more secure, as JB Weld could potentially be shoved out of the way.
Your picking skills are impressive. Your ability to think of ways to exploit the weak spots in the various mechanisms you come across is amazing. I expect the manufacturer will be adding a spring to that lever to prevent your attacks if they see this video, if it wouldn't interfere with the normal operation of the lock.
To locks, “Let’s go down to the basement...” is like, “It puts the lotion on its skin...”
Or it gets the exploit again!
@@KirkHermary well played sir
I must say I’ve got one & now I need to address that hole myself. Thank you. I wish there was a stamp on locks stating “lock picking lawyer approved “
That sounds like a million dollar power endorsement to me.
Will you please mention or do a series of videos on how to easily harden some of the locks like this? You mention that it is an easy fix. If this could be improved with a spring or some JB weld, it would be helpful for those that bought an item like this before seeing your review.
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Have someone add a welding point over the literal security hole to prevent the wire attack and have the lever Springloaded against the backwall of the housing to prevent or at least make the drop attack harder. Obviously the spring has to be attached in a way that it doesn't easily fly off when dropped.
@@Soonjai sounds like it needs a security sponge
I'm assuming LPL doesn't want to take on the liability of suggesting ways to add security to a product. (If he makes such a reccomendation and a thief steals your stuff anyway, you COULD sue.)
As for this particular product, the drop attack seems to only work if the safe can be dropped, so bolt it down. And the hole in the corner just needs to be plugged with something that can't easily be pushed aside, so yeah, JB Weld it. (I'm not worried about the aforementioned liability potential because if you do these things and your stuff still gets stolen, YOU should have done a better job of it :) )
@@Dwayne_Bearup Good point; I think that is completely valid. I guess it is up to us do discuss possible options (as long as that does not result in us being liable).
Wow what a compliment from LPL. If I was the manufacturer of that lock box, I’d put a new core in it, weld that hole shut, and put some extra tension on that bar in hopes of a revisited review in the future. The price of it might go up, but if it meant a recommendation from LPL, it’s worth it.
I have never picked a lock nor do i intend to, but i love this channel for more reasons i care to type out.
As the great attorney Jackie Chiles once said- “that’s outrageous and egregious”
LOL when I read notebook, I've thought of a laptop computer 😂
I thought he meant the paper
@@AstolfoGayming the next video could be a paper bypass 😂 like "cutting unhardenned shackles with paper"
You can probably hit it with a notebook computer or a paper notebook to get it open :-)
Same
Underaged zoomer
When the zombie apocalypse comes I want LPL on my team. He likes guns (I think), could break into just about anywhere, and is quite a smart guy. Why he's not a lock or safe proof of concept vulnerability consultant is beyond me.
Lock: Exists
LPL: So you have chosen, death
I love these product exploit vids, i get a chuckle when you use something simple to open them..
Can you do a video explaining how The Fonz could start a Jukebox just by slapping it on the side?
agree, this would be a good video
Must have been made by Master Lock
Because the writers said so.
Same idea, the shock would trip the lever that the coin was supposed to trip.
@@ke6gwf He once even did it over the phone, just by snapping his fingers.
Smashing it....genius.. Notebook wire... Beyond contestation...
Dammit, I own this thing. lol I was going to request you review it, and voila, imagine my surprise. Thanks for doing this one, true public service.
to be fair all you have to do is fill the holes
It's perfect to keep sticky fingers from lifting important items.
eg; It's not really meant to be fort-knox. It's to keep would-be easy-picking thieves from just picking up money or items and walking away. Sure, they COULD run the risk of picking it, or trying to take the entire box-- or breaking it... all of which are LOUD usually, very time-consuming or just dangerous if you get caught.
It's like the stupid dinky locks on food-shelves, keeps kids out or atleast makes it hard enough and loud enough for parents to notice. This little thing does it's job nicely and by no means should be considered a end-all-be-all solution.
I keep spare ammo/mags/cleaning supplies in seperate smaller safes inside the big safe. It just slows someone down... better to have a shitty safe that makes someone think, hesitate or work for 1 minuet rather than none at all! :)
@@aandyherr817 Some epoxy in the holes and bolt it down should be enough. If its cheap it might be worth it
A particularly concise breakdown of the exploits and their cause.
I don’t know why this is satisfying
I don't know either, but feel the same way. It's what brings me back for more.
In the episode, LPL literally knocks & the lock opens!
In the next episode, LPL stares open a lock!
[2000]
Lock opened FAST by staring at it
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Lock opened in 3sec by only using any key's shadow
Sir, I don’t think it’s so much that the products are bad… It’s because you are a super genius!!
You can literally open it by dropping it by accident
José Gaming OK, granted on this particular lock. What about the hundreds of others that he’s opened like they weren’t even there
LPL: "How can I humiliate a company today?"
Drop their shit.
I am continually amazed at the ease at which just about any of these "security" items can be defeated.
I believe 1:02 - 1:20 is what's known in the industry as "rubbing it in."
@lockpickinglawyer
Just a consideration for a few easy fixes:
1) soldering the corner holes shut would end the wire bypass
2) possibly replacing the spring that engages that bar with a stronger tension could prevent the impact bypass, although this is less likely to work and more tedious than the product is worth
Using the notepad binder bosnian bill and I made
We want the picking too! How can you forget that? It is like leaving out your best argument in a lawyer case and then losing :D
I will just lock every door in my house using every lock featured in this channel at the same time, because there's strength in numbers. ;)
He has over a thousand videos... Including a couple challenges where he got through 20 of a lock. Strength in numbers
You can put as many locks as you want on your door but don’t forget there is always the bottom of somebody’s shoe a.k.a. kick the damn door in or windows unless you want to put bars on all of your windows or to be quite honest the wall next to your door all it takes is cordless circular saw and construction vest and somebody’s in your house without raising an eyebrow so in other words put a decent lock on your door and make sure that your homeowners insurance is up-to-date If you’re worried about somebody breaking in to cause harm just keep a pistol hidden somewhere that nobody would expect to find it and meet the asshole with the business end of it
Bolt it down, seal the holes with a little jb weld, and if you're worried about picking you could seal the override lock as well and only use the code lock. It's not a perfect solution but it's a solution.
that would work, but if you're in a car then having it bolted down means you can't discretely lock the gun up.
Every day we come closer to "i opened this lock just by shouting at it"
_OR_ "just by laughing at it"
Not gonna lie, this locking box would have been pretty good if they changed those few problems.
Cover the corner holes with something, and made that lever that unlocks it smaller or maybe put a spring on it.
"Let's take this apart", oh how I miss these words.
Man I love your channel... so rare to see anything that is acceptable
and as always, it makes my day, thank you ;-)
Well, easy fixes: JB Weld on the holes at the corner. A stiffer spring on the unlocking bar. He already said the lock, while pickable, was better than most, and the mechanical push buttons require correct entry sequence. It looks like the manufacturer was trying to make a decent box, but missed a couple of things out of ignorance. I hope LPL reached out to them with his suggestions to make it better.
How on earth does he figure this stuff out?
Does he just hit every lock he has just in case
he dropped it Linus style!
He buys the locks, takes them apart and learns how they work, and then he figures out how to exploit it. By knowing how something works and how it's designed you can easily figure out how to bypass or exploit it.
I imagine he opened it, saw how easily that lever moved, and progressed from there.
I'm sure he would have already opened up the lock to check it out, saw that little bar, and said "hey, here's a video".
He probably dissembles stuff first and looks for vulnerabilities. Once you see the insides, you see the flaws.
You're a legend LPL. Beautiful deconstruction of a half decent product, hopefully they'll follow through and make changes. Hell, if they were wise they might even consult you or send you V2 to test. A glowing recommendation on video from you would go a long way these days.
"Opened With a Notebook"
Me to Me: Yea, its gonna be a high tech stuff, and you need some decryption software ran on a certain model of notebook or smth.
I'M VERY DISAPOINTED!
I was hoping for the notebook to be used as a blunt force instrument.
. . .
It would still probably work if you smacked it the right way.
*LockPickingLawyer:* _*slaps the top of the gun safe*._
*LockPickingLawyer:* This bad boy can pop open just so easy.
Going to use this notebook wire that Bosnian Bill and I made.
Maybe was the notebook were they both draw the prototype schematics for the disc detainer pick
It is great that you make us aware of all the poor quality locks and safes but it would be nice if you could show us some products that are actually good.
i have to admit, this one made me laugh a bit
Thanks for the update just put some PL construction glue in all corners on my model.
"This is the LockPickingLawyer, and I bet you're wondering, 'What common household item will he use to open a lock today?'"
A fondue fork??? Pretty please???
I feel more and more vulnerable each video I watch.
Quick question: Have you ever picked a lock by ear?
*Long* story ahead:-
I had to pick the lock to the key safe outside the flats I lived in so I could gain access to the main building, and thus my flat which was inside. The housing agency denied me access to the main door of the building because I didn't accept the terms of the new contract they served to me. I contended it, so they changed the main door lock and gave everyone, who signed the new contract, a key... except for me.
Since I was already inside the flats when they changed the lock on the main door, I decided to go down at night and crack the key safe code _(it was a mechanical lock where you needed to depress certain buttons to unlock the key safe, not in any specific order)._ Since I'm a sound engineer, I have very good listening skills. I could hear the difference in the sound the lock made when holding the "clear" button while pressing each number individually.
It took me about 2 mins to crack the lock. The housing agency had no idea how I was getting in and out. It was quite exhilarating, knowing I could circumvent their measures to try to prevent me from entering the flats where I f***ing lived, and where I hadn't gone against any contractual obligations. Large corporations sometimes have no empathy for individuals when it comes to taking their rights away ("right to privacy" in my case).
P.S. The new contract would allow them an _"unfettered right of access",_ meaning they could access the property at any time, even without knocking. They wanted a locksmith to remove the deadlock from everyone's front doors. I declined and left it locked. Totally wrong, and I'm so glad I stood my ground.
Many thanks LPL. A friend rec’d one of these for Christmas and looks like a spot weld and bolting down will improve this significantly. Hopefully ShotLock will make a few easy mods to improve this box.
Thanks, I was considering getting one of these for small objects like flash drives
So now that you know the security weaknesses of this particular product you can make it stronger. Just put some JB Weld in that hole and then bolt it to a shelf.
@@Dwayne_Bearup that's a good idea. I was just thinking of writing off the whole thing as a piece of junk. Though it's a bit irksome to have to finish the company's job for them.
You should encrypt your data in the flash drives instead of locking them in. Much more secure.
It’s not critical data, but valuable enough that I don’t want someone to just walk off with it. We have cloud backup as well.
If you have one of these, you could easily put a piece of metal in to defeat the wire attack. You could also bolt it down. That would solve 2 of the 3 problems with really not too much effort. He did say that the lock was better than some. So really, for a negligible amount you could fix the big issues with this.