The UI thinking and detailed design level thinking you all apply is second to none! Amazing, congratulations on another clearly earth shattering genius tool.
I use multiple instances of soothe on every project. Frankly, it's a miracle worker. Bloom looks incredible and will likely be similarly indispensable. Looking very forward to trying this today.
Having purchased Spiff and Soothe, I am also surprised that even a small discount for loyal customers has not been offered. This is pretty much the industry standard. As there are several similar plugins now, the argument can not be made that they are entirely unique.
@@carstensorensen154 Exactly. SoundToys offered great discounts for having Lil Radiator and Lil Plate, which were free plugins. I had downloaded their freebies for Black Friday the past couple years and this past year I finally pulled the trigger and bought the whole suite and they rewarded me for even using their free products.
Unpopular opinion: I think they don’t need to give a discount to me just because I have Soothe. I also think they can charge whatever they want, regardless of whether I can afford it or not. Considering it’s probably the most versatile and useful plugin I’d have for production and mixing, there’s a really high value associated with that. Yall need to stop asking for handouts. IMHO
@@Shaka178 "people are too entitled" my brother in christ it is $209. people aren't asking for 50% off they just want it to be like $30 cheaper or something. plus anyone who wants a discount is clearly planning on buying it anyways stop crying about it lol
How generous of you. I'd rather pay a high-ish price once than be pestered with recurring subscription costs. I have Soothe 2 on almost each track, and it performs small miracles. Well worth the investment.
@@ScottThePiscesthis is 1000% better and more versatile than Gulfos. It sounds more classy and is much much better at analysing and applying very nice dynamic EQ adjustments. It's also much more dynamic and adds exciting movement to the sound
I’ll be using Bloom for main mixing and sound crafting. Then EQ for cutting and Saturation for any extra coloration. Bloom is also really fun to use. I am sure I will still use Gulfoss for masterbuss the mastering version. Bloom makes it so using dynamic eqing isn’t as needed. It’s also fast to use and time is money. Makes creating more of a joy and mixing less of a chore (I do not enjoy mixing but being creative).
Is there a delta mode like soothe and spiff? Legit the cleanest and most useful tool from Oeksound. I love hearing the difference to dial in the settings.
companies are stupid to try to rack in as much as they can on initial profits by increasing the price... if the plugin was 50$ they would have hundreds of thousands more people buying it, while the plugin would be cheaper, i guarantee they would make more overall.
@krisissupercool1 100%, its not rocket science. Why are they not realizing that? Someone who is coding epic shit like this must be intelligent though? But this is just a stupid move and will hurt their name..
The GUI is top notch as is the EQ, but there is a big problem applying it to speech. Bloom boosts and attenuates where you would expect it to, but the amounts that it is boosting and attenuating are way off. For instance, it doesn't attenuate anywhere near enough in the lows which results in the mud remaining and it is boosting around 1k way too much on a file that I was using for testing. The boosting around 1k results in a nasaly sound. Given that there are no presets for speech, I'm wondering if it isn't intended for speech?
@@ieatthighsbecause they are little p*says who wanna have loyalty discount because they bought one or two plugins from the company. But they won’t get angry if a company wants the same amount for the second studio monitor as for the first 🤔
Another brilliant plugin idea from oeksound! I love how intelligent the frequency detection appears to be, and how intuitive and simple the UI is. Awesome work and I can't wait to play with this one!
Excellent work. However, you didn’t read the room well according to the comments here. You should have considered a discount for existing users of your other plugins. Even 15% would move the needle for a lot of us. I’m waiting until there’s a sale.
it’s a similar idea but (and i love gullfoss) bloom can be pushed way further while still sounding completely transparent. on paper they’re similar but in use very different!!!
I've used both and I can get satisfying results a lot faster with Gullfoss. It's also somewhat more true to the source to my ears, but that may be just because of how I tweak them. Bloom takes longer for me to dial in, so I still use Gullfoss 95% of the time. At this point, I only use bloom on minor tracks in a mix when I can relax a bit, get some practice with it and see what I can do. Otherwise, it's go go go with Gullfoss.
Guys they are really just harvesting the early adopters and highend professionals that dont care about the price, cause this to them is just a big timesaver, and are going to drop sales in a month or two for the amateurs. At the end of the day 95% of what this does is achievable with manual labor. If you dont do music professional and time isnt money then you also dont really need this. Its a convenience plugin and by no means irreplacable.
Thank you for asking. There is no loyalty discount for Bloom, because we believe in the value of the product, and it’s up to the user to decide whether their experience matches the value. We don’t think owning our previous plug-ins is a good reason for buying Bloom. We encourage everyone to use the 20-day trial license to demo the plug-in and see if it’s worth the price.
@@oeksound Good answer. A lot of the major plugin developers today are devaluing their products massively with the ever ongoing sales they push out. However I do appreciate e.g. Fabfilter's loyalty program as a pricing strategy.
@@oeksound It's not about the putative conviction that owning one or both of your previous plug-ins entitles the respective customer to ownership of your portfolio's newest addition, but about rewarding brand loyalty and people's support of Oeksound thus far. Your response comes off as complacent and a string of euphemisms reprimanding your fanbase for legitimately inquiring about a discount.
I understand the lack of loyalty discount, but no intro price is a bit, err… brave. There is so much choice for these kinds of plugins and so many intros and sales, devs must be either super confident this is head and shoulders above the competition or just so rich they don’t need the income, because you need to be competitive to survive in this market. I would like to get this but I’d want at least a 25% intro discount to feel like I’m not being treated like a mug.
I rather support a company I like and pay the full price if I like the product. That way, they will keep up te work and get the deserved reward for their work. Most people probably prefer get paid fully each time instead of getting less each time they go to work ;)
@@tidalwavestudio Good for you, but even a 20% discount for loyal customers wont break their bank. Their plugins are priced higher than most and they've made a lot of money already, so they could afford to give this way if they really wanted. If you want to feed greed that's your choice.
@@tidalwavestudio nah they’d get more sales if it was cheaper, hence earn more, it’s software they can sell as many copy’s as they want they’re not loosing profit. People are just more likely to pirate it if it’s overpriced
@@patrick5301 so all their clients are here? I saw comments that share my view with a lot of likes... but don't you think that if they only had 100 customers, they would need the full price even more? How could they ever make living and produce more cool stuff, if no-one is willing to pay? As I said, I rather pay full price and show my appreciation for a product I use every day, than being penurious and egoistic. I guess we agree to disagree. have a nice day, cheers!
@@zechs5079 Me too! I own both of them. I was truly excited about this last month. But today I am really disappointed when I see there's no discount for loyal customers.
This plugin may very well be worth the $209 price tag but the problem is many of us already have similar plugins. Soothe was different because there was nothing else like it (and it still doesn’t have any real competition) so I felt it was worth the price. I just can’t justify shelling out the $209 for something slightly different than a couple other plugins I have.
@@ancestralvision looks pretty much the same from first glance but you have more control on the emphasis bloom has on certain frequency ranges. I already have Gulfoss but I’ll prob get this if it goes on sale.
It’s similar to Gulfoss until you get into squashing and even the algorithm seems different in a good way. I have Gulfoss and use it often and will be demoing Bloom.
The way I see it, this will get rid of troublesome frequencies and get you a "flatter" sound, but if you want to make certain frequencies stand out in your overall mix, that's when it's time to add on an EQ.
I agree it’s expensive (probably too expensive) but I’ve tested it quite extensively and I have to say the squash function and the way it works WITH the tonal shaping is what makes this unique. I’m not exactly sure how it all works but you can tell every single component works together in harmony. I have gulfoss, ozone etc too but I believe it’s fair that if you offer something unique to the market you can set yourself apart price wise too. In this case, it sounds unique & that squash function mannnnn. Anyways, I’m also trying to make myself feel better about spending over 300 CAD on this 😂 but I truly love what this thing does.
What if we want to do tone shaping more without squash? I just want the tone shaping option, I don't need compression. It's a very expensive 209$ plugin. It should at least give users the option to bypass compression :)
I use spiff and soothe 2 all the time. The move from soothe 1 to 2 was already questionable because soothe 2 actually did what soothe 1 should've, but never could. Now this super expensive release disregarding my loyalty (even if i had to buy soothe twice to get it to work once, never again touched soothe 1 after 2's release) is disconcerting enough to make me want to shell out the 80€ for the upgrade offer on Ozone advanced, clarity and rebalance can get to a similar result.
I'm very surprised by the reactions on the price & loyalty discounts etc. I'm amazed they kept it at their standard pricing considering world inflation and other influences on costs for anything and everything. Bloom goes beyond similar plugin's for me.
I'm very not surprised by the reaction. Almost every major plugin maker gives discounts to loyal customers of their products. I bought licenses for both Soothe and Spiff and I expected them to have a discount for current users. I'm just familiar with the culture of discounts, but I don't mind (and understand) Oeksound's view as to why they don't offer it. Meh, they don't even have an account login on their page.
In fact most of people who are interested in this plugin already own something similar and almost the same plugin whatever it is. But they are interested in this because they make good products like soothe 2 and spiff. And they already know that it will do great job but that is not the must plugin for them just because of the price.
it is called a suggestion (on my part)... and an act of good faith to their loyal customers (on theirs). I never implied they are obligated to do so... but I would've bought it without even trying it had they OFFERED such a bargain to owners of all their other plugins @@DJarvisOfficial
Honestly guys, even before Bloom, but now definitely, you are way in the front comparing to all the other plugin companies in this "next generation software" race making. Everything in ur products is so intuitive, simple and incredibely transparent, just way beyond anything on the market. Your vision, from the design , to the all functions and modifiers on these plugins (there is just everything needed to achieve anything with the sound , still for all types of sound editors , meeting all needs, depends on what they heading to), Limits were pushed heavily with previous 2 plugins in sound design and mix-mastering duties. but this is really something!! So subtle, but still revolutionary, My life wouldnt be the same without these 3 :)) 200$ is the price that also speaks for itself , when it comes to the conversation about how good humans look like :) You are having great mission on this planet , and this form of life experience. My deep bow to ur Excellency.
Haven’t tried the plugin yet but I can see this replacing the need of using a compressor, EQ, and saturation in the chain. Seems like you keep the fidelity of the track while bringing out more life. Going to give it a try 🤙🏽
Bloom sounds like magic! This is similar to spectral OTT with a natural behavior based on psychoacoustics. I tried it and was amazed! Bloom sounds like a fantastic and REAL "soundgoodizer" on any material (even on a master bus). In addition, it adjusts each material in a pleasant way - it speeds up the audio production process and makes every mix +20% better and "finalized"! Excellent job! I hope you will get a lot of rewards!
Hey guys I don't mean to bring you down at all I'm genuinely curious. What makes this different/better from your competitors like Gullfoss, for example? I'd gladly switch over if you could tell me constructively.
So, you go to a store, you buy a tomato, then the next day you get some onions. Do you expect the store to give you a discount the next day you buy a potato? If you don't like the price, then don't buy it, and maybe get an alternative. Or you can also learn mixing to replicate what Bloom does, without having to purchase it. "This is very disappointing mimimimi"
Yes there is, the squash bar right on the amount control. Although, it's only an approximation, as Bloom does different amounts of gain reduction on different frequencies.
“making Bloom an alternative for replacing entire plugin chains dedicated to tone-shaping.” It’s true. I see you just combine different plugin into this one. I think I can do well with a combination of iZotope, Fable Filter, Sound Radix and Gullfoss.
Just incredible plugin. I put one instance on the vocal bus with modest settings and another light processor on the mixbus and the song suddely sounded like it was mixed by some genius! To my ear Bloom just sets all the competitors far behind because it has huge sonic range and it sounds very natural. Honestly - WELL done!
Good question, thanks! Bloom does not have a reference target. It looks at the shape of the overtone series of the incoming signal among other factors and judges the desired processing based on that.
@@oeksoundmakes me wonder if Bloom can “know” the fundamental of a signal by analyzing the overtone series. The issue with some “dynamic resonance” plugins I’ve found is that they’ll unknowingly treat the fundamental as a resonance. Bloom sounds great in the demo. Congrats on the release :)
Also this is similar to "equalizer" from waves factory, which could've been acquired with loyalty and intro prices for and 60€. Your total revenue from this price point is off, I'll wait until (and if) it becomes more reasonable and i believe lots of customers will wait too.
If you compare Equalizer to Bloom applied to speech then you'll see that Equalizer works well and can be configured (relative amounts to boost and attenuate by). Bloom doesn't boost and attenuate by anywhere near the correct amounts which leaves mud and creates a nasaly sound. I'm hoping oaksound are able to fix it for speech.
I am going to try it out. I have Gulfoss but this looks like it can go a lot farther with Squash and different algorithms for clarity and frequency. I’m excited!
Try it and check your results. Some really shitty sounding recordings might need an extra layer of frequency removal. You could use Soothe to focus in on one or two frequencies that Bloom is not cleaning up to your liking. Think of Bloom at the macro level and Soothe at the micro level. May not sound as fresh, but, hey, it's a shitty recording! Or, you could re-record. It won't have the same feel as the original, but in five years, you'll never know the difference.
Looks very promising. Gonna give a try. I think it miss 3 obvious feature that would make this plug in shine above other "automatic dynamic eq" 1) define a tonal target curve by sidechaining and/or loading a reference track or signal. 2) Split the signal into attack and sustain (or AD and SR) So you can have different tonal action on both transient and sustain. For drums, it would be the perfect tool to shape the sound the way you want and get, for example, bright and controlled attack with a warmer and livy sustain. 3) A learn function that allow to draw a fixed curve based on a 10-15 second learned signal. Would be super useful for FOH mixing. You learn the signal for 15 second, then freeze and keep the curve as is (no more dynamic processing) and then plug-ins turns into 0 latency mode while remaining static. This would make soundcheck almost "automatic" for any newbie musician/sound engineer
@@zugrath16 ur assuming a lot about me. i know i'm never buying this. getting all sassy like this when this company's choosing a goofy model for customer loyalty is kinda silly(i'm not a customer for any of this company's software!). calmate
@@fartbox8956 Sorry man but my point still stands. If you're calling their model "goofy" because they don't offer discounts to loyal customers then like I said - previous customers are not entitled to anything. They made a transaction in the past and got what they paid for, that's all the company really owes them. Not saying that loyalty discounts are bad, but when people start demanding it then yes, that is just pure entitlement.
ya'll are mad that they didn't immediately discount their brand new plugin? Why do people act so spoiled these days. if you don't have the money, don't buy it - if they don't sell enough for their bottom line they will drop price, otherwise why would they? That's how capitalism works. This plugin looks like it took a ridiculous amount of time and tech to make and it looks incredible. You want them to give it away for pennies out of the gate? This is like me getting mad at the grocery store for not discounting my milk because I buy a gallon from them every week 😂
Pennies? $100 USD would be more than fair for this -- and they're charging double that. It's a digital product, your comparison to a perishable, physical product like milk is so off the mark it's hilarious. Shills gonna shill though.
@@Skrenjaif it’s too expensive for you you can just not buy it dude. You don’t have to go on a complain campaign. Go learn to code your own plugins and give them away if you want. They’re a small company, if they don’t sell enough to keep the business afloat that’s their problem but clearly they’re doing alright with their current business model! And call me a shill if you want, but I haven’t even bought this plugin because I personally don’t feel I need it but I’m also not complaining about it.
One of few plugin companies worth the $$. Will i wait for a deal price? Probably but also this plugin could also save a lot of time in mixing so...demoing now...
You had me at - "However, balance cannot be thought of as an objective truth."
gullfoss elite looks crispy aint gonna lie
bloom is much better lets be honest
Gullfoss elite does not exist cannot find it on google
Gullfoss Elite ? What is that ? I got Gullfoss but Elite ?!!
soundtheory dropping a new plugin next month too...
Where is the source on this Gullfoss elite?
The REAL Soundgoodizer
The UI thinking and detailed design level thinking you all apply is second to none! Amazing, congratulations on another clearly earth shattering genius tool.
Curious, do you use their other tools?
Don't overdo it bro....
I use multiple instances of soothe on every project. Frankly, it's a miracle worker. Bloom looks incredible and will likely be similarly indispensable. Looking very forward to trying this today.
I'm not seeing any sort of discount for people that own Spiff and Soothe. No crossgrade?
THIS! How about some appreciation for your existing customers
Indeed! Common marketing sense.
waiting for discounts
Having purchased Spiff and Soothe, I am also surprised that even a small discount for loyal customers has not been offered. This is pretty much the industry standard. As there are several similar plugins now, the argument can not be made that they are entirely unique.
@@carstensorensen154 Exactly. SoundToys offered great discounts for having Lil Radiator and Lil Plate, which were free plugins. I had downloaded their freebies for Black Friday the past couple years and this past year I finally pulled the trigger and bought the whole suite and they rewarded me for even using their free products.
Unpopular opinion: I think they don’t need to give a discount to me just because I have Soothe. I also think they can charge whatever they want, regardless of whether I can afford it or not. Considering it’s probably the most versatile and useful plugin I’d have for production and mixing, there’s a really high value associated with that. Yall need to stop asking for handouts. IMHO
Nailed it. What do you expect from a bunch of liberal crybaby musicians though?
yeah neither do i imma just crack it anyway fuck yall
ppl too entitled
@@Shaka178 "people are too entitled" my brother in christ it is $209. people aren't asking for 50% off they just want it to be like $30 cheaper or something. plus anyone who wants a discount is clearly planning on buying it anyways stop crying about it lol
@@aio8432 you’re crying about a 210 dollar plugin not being dropped 30 dollars …you do realize that, right?
I'll consider buying it when it's half price.
How generous of you. I'd rather pay a high-ish price once than be pestered with recurring subscription costs. I have Soothe 2 on almost each track, and it performs small miracles. Well worth the investment.
If the introductory price was $149, no one would have complained.
@@aonamassao They could've put the price at $249, with an introductory price at $199 and no one would have complained either
@@DanielTeraOfficial they're confident enough in their plugins that they just sell it for the actual price with no sales schemes
Would be nice to see an intro or discount price as I already own both Sooth 2 and Spiff. 199 euro is too much for me as I also have Gullfoss.
if you have gullfoss you dont need this lol
@@ScottThePiscesthis is 1000% better and more versatile than Gulfos. It sounds more classy and is much much better at analysing and applying very nice dynamic EQ adjustments. It's also much more dynamic and adds exciting movement to the sound
@@happyshadow totally agree. Gullfoss has no use for me anymore.
I have Gulfoss and this is more useful. Subjective, of course. I like the eq bands for shaping and the squasher.
I’ll be using Bloom for main mixing and sound crafting. Then EQ for cutting and Saturation for any extra coloration. Bloom is also really fun to use. I am sure I will still use Gulfoss for masterbuss the mastering version.
Bloom makes it so using dynamic eqing isn’t as needed.
It’s also fast to use and time is money. Makes creating more of a joy and mixing less of a chore (I do not enjoy mixing but being creative).
waiting for discounts
keep waiting 🤣🤣
Is there a delta mode like soothe and spiff? Legit the cleanest and most useful tool from Oeksound. I love hearing the difference to dial in the settings.
$149,- on easter sale and $99,- during black friday because too little copies sold for that steep price. Mark my words.
companies are stupid to try to rack in as much as they can on initial profits by increasing the price... if the plugin was 50$ they would have hundreds of thousands more people buying it, while the plugin would be cheaper, i guarantee they would make more overall.
@krisissupercool1 100%, its not rocket science. Why are they not realizing that? Someone who is coding epic shit like this must be intelligent though? But this is just a stupid move and will hurt their name..
They won't
The GUI is top notch as is the EQ, but there is a big problem applying it to speech. Bloom boosts and attenuates where you would expect it to, but the amounts that it is boosting and attenuating are way off. For instance, it doesn't attenuate anywhere near enough in the lows which results in the mud remaining and it is boosting around 1k way too much on a file that I was using for testing. The boosting around 1k results in a nasaly sound. Given that there are no presets for speech, I'm wondering if it isn't intended for speech?
You know i don’t like the price anymore than anyone else but I like what I hear and I absolutely the love the “our products are worth it” attitude.
Oeksound has an Easter sale next month, wait until then
Not all heroes wear capes.
new plugins are usually exempt from the sales lists :(
@@krisissupercool1would be a great way to make the bunch of angry customers right now even more angrier. Great job Oeksound, total marketing fail.
@@KYTHERAOfficial why are the customers angry now?
@@ieatthighsbecause they are little p*says who wanna have loyalty discount because they bought one or two plugins from the company. But they won’t get angry if a company wants the same amount for the second studio monitor as for the first 🤔
Another brilliant plugin idea from oeksound! I love how intelligent the frequency detection appears to be, and how intuitive and simple the UI is. Awesome work and I can't wait to play with this one!
I really surprised by the price!
It's the same price as soothe 2 and Spiff is a little bit less.
It worth not its price.
Greed
How do you measure technical innovation? What other product are you comparing this to? @@hearmenow909
I’ll catch it when it’s on sale since there’s no loyalty discount
Excellent work. However, you didn’t read the room well according to the comments here. You should have considered a discount for existing users of your other plugins. Even 15% would move the needle for a lot of us. I’m waiting until there’s a sale.
Honest question, not meant as a dig at all: How is this different from Gullfoss?
it’s a similar idea but (and i love gullfoss) bloom can be pushed way further while still sounding completely transparent. on paper they’re similar but in use very different!!!
I've used both and I can get satisfying results a lot faster with Gullfoss. It's also somewhat more true to the source to my ears, but that may be just because of how I tweak them. Bloom takes longer for me to dial in, so I still use Gullfoss 95% of the time. At this point, I only use bloom on minor tracks in a mix when I can relax a bit, get some practice with it and see what I can do. Otherwise, it's go go go with Gullfoss.
I rent to own, and I use it more than Soothe now. It's worth it. 💟
BS, soothe does same thing and better!
@morrisonsly5634 Okay bud, Soothe is great too!
Guys they are really just harvesting the early adopters and highend professionals that dont care about the price, cause this to them is just a big timesaver, and are going to drop sales in a month or two for the amateurs. At the end of the day 95% of what this does is achievable with manual labor. If you dont do music professional and time isnt money then you also dont really need this. Its a convenience plugin and by no means irreplacable.
Extremely well put
Great, any discount on Bloom if you own Spiff and Soothe?.
also waiting
Thank you for asking. There is no loyalty discount for Bloom, because we believe in the value of the product, and it’s up to the user to decide whether their experience matches the value.
We don’t think owning our previous plug-ins is a good reason for buying Bloom. We encourage everyone to use the 20-day trial license to demo the plug-in and see if it’s worth the price.
@@oeksound Good answer. A lot of the major plugin developers today are devaluing their products massively with the ever ongoing sales they push out. However I do appreciate e.g. Fabfilter's loyalty program as a pricing strategy.
I tried the demo and it's definitly worth the price. Without any doubt ❤
@@oeksound It's not about the putative conviction that owning one or both of your previous plug-ins entitles the respective customer to ownership of your portfolio's newest addition, but about rewarding brand loyalty and people's support of Oeksound thus far. Your response comes off as complacent and a string of euphemisms reprimanding your fanbase for legitimately inquiring about a discount.
I understand the lack of loyalty discount, but no intro price is a bit, err… brave. There is so much choice for these kinds of plugins and so many intros and sales, devs must be either super confident this is head and shoulders above the competition or just so rich they don’t need the income, because you need to be competitive to survive in this market. I would like to get this but I’d want at least a 25% intro discount to feel like I’m not being treated like a mug.
This I agree with. An intro discount would be a smart thing.
Should be a discount for Oek customers
I rather support a company I like and pay the full price if I like the product. That way, they will keep up te work and get the deserved reward for their work. Most people probably prefer get paid fully each time instead of getting less each time they go to work ;)
@@tidalwavestudio Good for you, but even a 20% discount for loyal customers wont break their bank. Their plugins are priced higher than most and they've made a lot of money already, so they could afford to give this way if they really wanted. If you want to feed greed that's your choice.
@@tidalwavestudio nah they’d get more sales if it was cheaper, hence earn more, it’s software they can sell as many copy’s as they want they’re not loosing profit. People are just more likely to pirate it if it’s overpriced
@@patrick5301 so all their clients are here? I saw comments that share my view with a lot of likes... but don't you think that if they only had 100 customers, they would need the full price even more? How could they ever make living and produce more cool stuff, if no-one is willing to pay? As I said, I rather pay full price and show my appreciation for a product I use every day, than being penurious and egoistic. I guess we agree to disagree. have a nice day, cheers!
@@tidalwavestudio every person that bought a product is already supporting the company
No intro price and no discount for loyal cutomers … really disappointed
Seriously? That really sucks. I own soothe and spiff.
@@zechs5079 yep mate it sucks …
entitlement is crazy, bro what? they've worked on it for years
i don't get the joke
@@zechs5079 Me too! I own both of them. I was truly excited about this last month. But today I am really disappointed when I see there's no discount for loyal customers.
I love the plugin. Good work Oeksound
This plugin may very well be worth the $209 price tag but the problem is many of us already have similar plugins. Soothe was different because there was nothing else like it (and it still doesn’t have any real competition) so I felt it was worth the price. I just can’t justify shelling out the $209 for something slightly different than a couple other plugins I have.
seems like a multiband Gulfoss?
It’s not multiband
yeah im also curious how it differentiates from Gullfoss
@@ancestralvision looks pretty much the same from first glance but you have more control on the emphasis bloom has on certain frequency ranges. I already have Gulfoss but I’ll prob get this if it goes on sale.
It’s similar to Gulfoss until you get into squashing and even the algorithm seems different in a good way. I have Gulfoss and use it often and will be demoing Bloom.
How is this much different than an EQ?
The way I see it, this will get rid of troublesome frequencies and get you a "flatter" sound, but if you want to make certain frequencies stand out in your overall mix, that's when it's time to add on an EQ.
I'm going to need this right about now
I agree it’s expensive (probably too expensive) but I’ve tested it quite extensively and I have to say the squash function and the way it works WITH the tonal shaping is what makes this unique. I’m not exactly sure how it all works but you can tell every single component works together in harmony. I have gulfoss, ozone etc too but I believe it’s fair that if you offer something unique to the market you can set yourself apart price wise too. In this case, it sounds unique & that squash function mannnnn. Anyways, I’m also trying to make myself feel better about spending over 300 CAD on this 😂 but I truly love what this thing does.
What if we want to do tone shaping more without squash? I just want the tone shaping option, I don't need compression.
It's a very expensive 209$ plugin. It should at least give users the option to bypass compression :)
I use spiff and soothe 2 all the time. The move from soothe 1 to 2 was already questionable because soothe 2 actually did what soothe 1 should've, but never could.
Now this super expensive release disregarding my loyalty (even if i had to buy soothe twice to get it to work once, never again touched soothe 1 after 2's release) is disconcerting enough to make me want to shell out the 80€ for the upgrade offer on Ozone advanced, clarity and rebalance can get to a similar result.
Why is there no discount for existing customers ?
expensive!
This isn't a toy
You are right
I'm very surprised by the reactions on the price & loyalty discounts etc. I'm amazed they kept it at their standard pricing considering world inflation and other influences on costs for anything and everything. Bloom goes beyond similar plugin's for me.
I'm very not surprised by the reaction. Almost every major plugin maker gives discounts to loyal customers of their products. I bought licenses for both Soothe and Spiff and I expected them to have a discount for current users. I'm just familiar with the culture of discounts, but I don't mind (and understand) Oeksound's view as to why they don't offer it. Meh, they don't even have an account login on their page.
In fact most of people who are interested in this plugin already own something similar and almost the same plugin whatever it is. But they are interested in this because they make good products like soothe 2 and spiff. And they already know that it will do great job but that is not the must plugin for them just because of the price.
Who cares about intro price? How about a discount to us who own everything of yours!!! COME ON GUYS!!! (You’re losing easy money)
Plus, I already have Gulfoss… you’re shooting yourselves in the foot by not caring about your loyal customers…
Is that a common practice? I feel like I haven't seen other plugin companies offer loyalty discounts like that
so how about @oeksound be pioneers here as well and be the first to do t?!@@dade1603
it is called a suggestion (on my part)... and an act of good faith to their loyal customers (on theirs). I never implied they are obligated to do so... but I would've bought it without even trying it had they OFFERED such a bargain to owners of all their other plugins @@DJarvisOfficial
@@DJarvisOfficialagreed, this is 1000% better and more useful than Gulfos
Thank you guys!
Get ready for virtual riot to create a massive ableton rank to do exactly what this plugin does somehow
lolol. true dat.
And Polarity will do it for Bitwig.
Mate! sounds incredible as always! Great approach!
Honestly guys, even before Bloom, but now definitely, you are way in the front comparing to all the other plugin companies in this "next generation software" race making. Everything in ur products is so intuitive, simple and incredibely transparent, just way beyond anything on the market. Your vision, from the design , to the all functions and modifiers on these plugins (there is just everything needed to achieve anything with the sound , still for all types of sound editors , meeting all needs, depends on what they heading to), Limits were pushed heavily with previous 2 plugins in sound design and mix-mastering duties. but this is really something!! So subtle, but still revolutionary, My life wouldnt be the same without these 3 :))
200$ is the price that also speaks for itself , when it comes to the conversation about how good humans look like :) You are having great mission on this planet , and this form of life experience.
My deep bow to ur Excellency.
❤
Haven’t tried the plugin yet but I can see this replacing the need of using a compressor, EQ, and saturation in the chain. Seems like you keep the fidelity of the track while bringing out more life. Going to give it a try 🤙🏽
hey mr Oksound! I am happy to pay full price of 199 dollars because of good product :) thank u for the plug ins, I love it. Sincererely Biblo Shadow
Bloom sounds like magic! This is similar to spectral OTT with a natural behavior based on psychoacoustics. I tried it and was amazed! Bloom sounds like a fantastic and REAL "soundgoodizer" on any material (even on a master bus). In addition, it adjusts each material in a pleasant way - it speeds up the audio production process and makes every mix +20% better and "finalized"! Excellent job! I hope you will get a lot of rewards!
After using other oeksound plugins didn't even try the trial just went ahead and bought it, oh my gosh! Game changer.
I’m buying
Ok. I own Soothe 2, TEOTE, Gullfoss and Baby Audio. Tell me why I need this.
please come up with a bundle price.
so its basically like gulfoss but with more settings ?
For all the people complaining about price: a single project could pay the tool off.
Anything at oek sound is an automatic MUST buy \m/
Switched from gulfoss to bloom as always oek sounds introduced another ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐💥
Hey guys I don't mean to bring you down at all I'm genuinely curious. What makes this different/better from your competitors like Gullfoss, for example? I'd gladly switch over if you could tell me constructively.
Seems like there is a lot more control and tweakability…
rent to own?
That would have been great actually
You can do that.
Cool plugin, but there's no way I'm going to buy it at this price when plugins like DSM V3 can be had for about 15% of the price Bloom.
Expensive..
Thank you for your services
Sounds awesome! Great work guys!
I have Spiff and Soothe, I'm a loyal customer, and there are no bonuses for us? Well, this is very disappointing, I hope you change your policy
So, you go to a store, you buy a tomato, then the next day you get some onions. Do you expect the store to give you a discount the next day you buy a potato?
If you don't like the price, then don't buy it, and maybe get an alternative. Or you can also learn mixing to replicate what Bloom does, without having to purchase it.
"This is very disappointing mimimimi"
Literally every grocery store in the UK has a loyalty program giving discount, cashback and other benefits for loyal patronage. @@duvanr
@@duvanr LOL, sooooo many supermarkets have rewards programs.
Sounds like a great addition for a lazy mixer like me
I’ll have to give this one a try
2OO EUR without Rent-to-own option is way too much guys.
When you squash and it starts to compress, is there a visual or a meter to where we can see inside the plugin, how much gain reduction there is?
Yes there is, the squash bar right on the amount control. Although, it's only an approximation, as Bloom does different amounts of gain reduction on different frequencies.
@@oeksound of course, but, there's no number that shows how much the loudest element from the sources sound is compressed downward?
Yeah we definitely need some sort of discount/intro price for customers who already have soothe/spiff. 🙏
I think it's too expensive
“making Bloom an alternative for replacing entire plugin chains dedicated to tone-shaping.” It’s true. I see you just combine different plugin into this one. I think I can do well with a combination of iZotope, Fable Filter, Sound Radix and Gullfoss.
Just incredible plugin. I put one instance on the vocal bus with modest settings and another light processor on the mixbus and the song suddely sounded like it was mixed by some genius! To my ear Bloom just sets all the competitors far behind because it has huge sonic range and it sounds very natural. Honestly - WELL done!
Wich reference tartget is this plugin using ? The standard Harman 2019 Target , pink noise or a custom target ?
@oeksound
@oeksound
Good question, thanks! Bloom does not have a reference target. It looks at the shape of the overtone series of the incoming signal among other factors and judges the desired processing based on that.
@@oeksoundmakes me wonder if Bloom can “know” the fundamental of a signal by analyzing the overtone series. The issue with some “dynamic resonance” plugins I’ve found is that they’ll unknowingly treat the fundamental as a resonance. Bloom sounds great in the demo. Congrats on the release :)
Also this is similar to "equalizer" from waves factory, which could've been acquired with loyalty and intro prices for and 60€. Your total revenue from this price point is off, I'll wait until (and if) it becomes more reasonable and i believe lots of customers will wait too.
If you compare Equalizer to Bloom applied to speech then you'll see that Equalizer works well and can be configured (relative amounts to boost and attenuate by). Bloom doesn't boost and attenuate by anywhere near the correct amounts which leaves mud and creates a nasaly sound. I'm hoping oaksound are able to fix it for speech.
I am going to try it out. I have Gulfoss but this looks like it can go a lot farther with Squash and different algorithms for clarity and frequency.
I’m excited!
Could you use Bloom in combination with Soothe, or would that be overkill?
Try it and check your results. Some really shitty sounding recordings might need an extra layer of frequency removal. You could use Soothe to focus in on one or two frequencies that Bloom is not cleaning up to your liking. Think of Bloom at the macro level and Soothe at the micro level. May not sound as fresh, but, hey, it's a shitty recording! Or, you could re-record. It won't have the same feel as the original, but in five years, you'll never know the difference.
Looks very promising. Gonna give a try.
I think it miss 3 obvious feature that would make this plug in shine above other "automatic dynamic eq"
1) define a tonal target curve by sidechaining and/or loading a reference track or signal.
2) Split the signal into attack and sustain (or AD and SR) So you can have different tonal action on both transient and sustain. For drums, it would be the perfect tool to shape the sound the way you want and get, for example, bright and controlled attack with a warmer and livy sustain.
3) A learn function that allow to draw a fixed curve based on a 10-15 second learned signal. Would be super useful for FOH mixing.
You learn the signal for 15 second, then freeze and keep the curve as is (no more dynamic processing) and then plug-ins turns into 0 latency mode while remaining static. This would make soundcheck almost "automatic" for any newbie musician/sound engineer
rutracker where u at bro
is it free to try for 20 days or do i have to put my card?
Sorry for the delay! No need to put your card, just download the plugin and activate the trial from the plugin.
Nice price 😂 why not 999€?
Awesome looking plugin, but I hope you add an auto gain/gain match in a future update!
did you watch the video?
How do Bloom and Soothe work together? 🤔
Soothe holds you by the wrists while Bloom shakes you down for all your money.
@@oinkooink 💀
No intro price?
inb4 woo woo corporate speak justification for charging $200 for this
@@fartbox8956 Reality check - no one is forcing you to buy it and you are not entitled to anything
@@zugrath16 ur assuming a lot about me. i know i'm never buying this. getting all sassy like this when this company's choosing a goofy model for customer loyalty is kinda silly(i'm not a customer for any of this company's software!). calmate
@@fartbox8956 Sorry man but my point still stands. If you're calling their model "goofy" because they don't offer discounts to loyal customers then like I said - previous customers are not entitled to anything. They made a transaction in the past and got what they paid for, that's all the company really owes them.
Not saying that loyalty discounts are bad, but when people start demanding it then yes, that is just pure entitlement.
@@zugrath16 loser lmao
Gosh I need this. So insane.
Next level! ❤
Wow! Just tried it for some hours ... it's great! Thank you for coming up with really innovative plugins! Oeksound rocks!
Seems like something that can be useful in every track, will try out the trial 👌
ya'll are mad that they didn't immediately discount their brand new plugin? Why do people act so spoiled these days. if you don't have the money, don't buy it - if they don't sell enough for their bottom line they will drop price, otherwise why would they? That's how capitalism works. This plugin looks like it took a ridiculous amount of time and tech to make and it looks incredible. You want them to give it away for pennies out of the gate? This is like me getting mad at the grocery store for not discounting my milk because I buy a gallon from them every week 😂
Pennies? $100 USD would be more than fair for this -- and they're charging double that. It's a digital product, your comparison to a perishable, physical product like milk is so off the mark it's hilarious. Shills gonna shill though.
@@Skrenja yea price gouging like this company does unironically makes me want to just learn to code my own plugins, lol
@@Skrenja pennies* learn to spell
@@Skrenjaif it’s too expensive for you you can just not buy it dude. You don’t have to go on a complain campaign. Go learn to code your own plugins and give them away if you want. They’re a small company, if they don’t sell enough to keep the business afloat that’s their problem but clearly they’re doing alright with their current business model! And call me a shill if you want, but I haven’t even bought this plugin because I personally don’t feel I need it but I’m also not complaining about it.
One of few plugin companies worth the $$. Will i wait for a deal price? Probably but also this plugin could also save a lot of time in mixing so...demoing now...
How does that compare to Neutron Sculptor?
Too expensive
I dont understand why people think gulfuss is better I’m loving it it’s also quite different I think
We need -50％
This is incredible
Great ! very interesting and seems efficient.
Just bought it, woot
This is gorgeous
I'll wait for a discount to BLOOM out of an upcoming holiday.
who is the singer in this demo please
Please have some plans (rent to own)
Woww this sounds amazing!!! I'm excited to try it out 💯
i will buy this just because its pink and silly, hihiii!!! >.
Seems expensive. Ill stick with what i have unless there's a sale. Plenty of good tools out there and more coming.
200 bucks what ???!!! 😂