JESCO (Acoustics Insider) Solves ALL Of Our Room Acoustic Problems (S7 E6)
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- Jesco (Acoustics Insider) Solves ALL Of Our Room Acoustic Problems
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CHAPTERS
0:01 About Jesco
6:17 Most common problem in home studios
8:28 Is there a perfect speaker for every room?
11:38 Why do MTM speakers measure better than other speakers?
17:48 Why Flat doesn't actually exist in real mixing rooms
25:25 There is no such thing as a perfect room
34:26 Room tuning vs translation & personal taste
38:24 Is there a correct height for mixing?
42:12 Speaker and listening position
45:17 You CAN use acoustic foam
47:46 Subwoofer time alignment
55:37 What speakers does Jesco use?
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This one is so in depth!!! Am watching/listening for the 3rd time in the hope some more of the gems sink in!
Great episode. In all my 5 home recording studios I’ve setup in the last 25 years ( since I was 15 ). I agree 1000 percent with all of this. I’ve debated online many times with newbies who regurgitate B.S. rule of thumbs about flatness and speaking placement without knowing much depth on the subject.
The would of online acoustic advice is such a world of over-confident charletans . It's great to have Jesco around, someone who has intelligently sifted through all that poor advice.
Jesco is a genius. Respect.
Glad you enjoyed it
Just to chime in and clarify something, nulls would be at 1/4 wavelength with peaks at 1/2 wavelength when talking about the width of the room at around 40:15. Have to say, Jesco is a great help to lots of home studio producers who are wrestling with acoustic issues, kudos. Bottom line is measure, change, measure, rinse and repeat. Lol at the 'F' word!
I used Jesco's methods for setting up my listening position and my speaker placement in my brand new garden studio. It worked perfectly, then I treated the room well and finished with Arc 4. I cannot tell you how pleased I am with my mixing room. I can't recommend Acoustics Insider enough! 😎
Amazing!
Great! Deep discussion, very practical and useful. Keep on doing the podcast, it's just great!
Appreciate the support! 🤜🤛
Thanks 🎉
I’ve been waiting for this
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Another fire episode
Thanks for tuning in each week! We appreciate you regulars!
Great one again, jesco seems like a cool guy. Been following him for awhile now. Bless
Loads of useful information!
Jesco. The gift that keeps on giving! He has been instrumental in influencing my own setup, via A.I. He always offers solid, usable advice. Nice one chaps!
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing interview as always! I remember getting a comment from a friend saying, 'so when are you going to make music?' After a year of building the studio... That hit me hard and I wrapped up all the rabbit holes I was going down and finished and got on with it. It's hard when you want everything to be the best it can be... and playing with two variables that make that an impossible task... Budget and perfect doesn't exist. I think we just have to do our best and move on knowing we did that. And like was mentioned, upgrade as we get better. I know for myself now I really value the upgrades and can actually hear the difference because of having the time in the 'not perfect' room making and mixing. It's one heck of a journey!
It's a very fine balance to achieve!
Great to see that you meet and talked to him. he's a great acoustician . 🎉🎉🎉
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i would say membrane traps are essential to address the bass , cos if you do not have bass under control it mask everything..
So interesting guys and it had me grinning from ear to ear,as I was fully engaged the whole time😄. This is right up my street and I have gone down the exact same rabbit hole and realised that once you get to a certain point where things translate pretty decently just get on and make music!! I say that whilst looking at new gear😂 and not making music!! The real gem for me was about choosing the sub from the same manufacturer as speakers, which now seems so obvious so kh750 here I come👍🏾. Thanks guys.
Hopefully this gets you back making music!
Like with a lot of things in life, there is the one extreme of “nah it’ll be fine” and the other of “OMG! I can still here that null at 100Hz! My room’s not perfectly flat!”
Acceptance in many cases is the best path to success
What about a window divider in your room Ed?
What for?
@@WorkingAudioTools The bass... recreate you bedroom lol
@acousticsinsider : What's the matter with a Neumann KH310 (1:02:02)? Have it on my wishlist.
It’s a sonic preference. I would strongly advise checking out Amphion as well!
Question for Jesco: do you still have your Adam Sub12? How does it integrate with the HEDDs?
Also, any thoughts on using two subs in a stereo configuration?
Kii are time aligned ...
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Excellent episode! It took me two years to "tone" my room. But will it all be for naught when Spike Stent's AI plugin lands? 😉 Let's pray it sounds better than it looks! Oh my...
Not sure if it's a plugin or a website or a seperate piece of software
@@WorkingAudioTools According to SOS it will run in your DAW - I assume you'll need a web connection to "talk to Spike" 🙄
It's credit based which will put most off anyway. Who wants to buy credits just to ask AI to do something you might not even like.
Any audio based youtuber that promotes this deserves the hate being honest. It goes against everything we try and promote
@@WorkingAudioTools I totally agree. Kind of disappointing that $pike's involved - he must be looking a retirement Villas in Spain!
Looks more like his son is the driving force behind it. He's an A&R
Great timing for this vid!!! Am literally in the midst of ripping the studio apart and rebuilding to treat and improve positioning.
Ripped away most of the foam and will be replacing with a to of GIK.
Re-oriented the room (stupidly was positioned along the narrow with to maximise equipment access - ignorant that it was bad for acoustics!
Swapped out the speaker stands (on option 3 now and option 4 with DHL arriving next week!).
On my 4th desk option to optimise ergonomics and minimise the reflection surface and allow the listening position to be improved (speaker placement)
Changed the screens and stands reduce reflection and narrow the speaker placement width.
Upgraded the monitors to slightly larger near fields
Adding the GLM gizmo to manage the speakers (you did not mention the G brand, they do a lot in this space and just announced a new controller that extends the control to headphones too).
Finally now and that’s the hardest part…. Thinning out the equipment in the room so that there is less of it.
Debating whether to swap the single large sub for a pair of slightly smaller ones.
Should be all done on 2 or 3 weeks!
So thanks so much for the vid, gave me a lot ideas, helped confirm things I’d already learnt along the way and also helped me understand WHY some of these things matter.
But in all honesty I can’t wait until I’m out of this rabbit hole and can forget about it and move back to just making music ha ha.
The thing to know is that many successful artists and producers became successful with poor acoustic environments and making poor acoustic decisions in order to feel better about their space aesthetically .. They just got on with things, it was their focus .
@@natdenchfield8061 very true. Could not agree more. But if you’re building your ‘dream’ home studio because you enjoy the process then it is good to learn and grow. None of it is essential I quite agree. But like any hobbies these are many corners to explore and fill in. Pub intended.
Also just because you don’t need something as a must have to achieve a goal, does not mean that that if you can you shouldn’t. It is all about choices and priorities.
For me it is same type of hobby as restoring classic cars or woodworking.
If I was doing it purely as an ‘investment’ I’d not bother at all. Waste of money as far better returns putting the cash elsewhere. Fk all money in music these days for majority. 🤣
Great episode! Did I understand correctly that my ears should never be in the middle between the acoustic cloud in the ceiling and the floor?
Depends on the room. The middle of the room is a pressure point so you just have to take some consideration and experiment
@@WorkingAudioTools so as long as the listening position is below or above the middle it should be kind of better?
Measure it and find out
Not the cloud, but in the centre bwtween any two solid boundaries. That's where the dip of the strongest mode of that distance will occur.
Between ceiling and floor is more critical when you have about an 8ft high (2.44 m) or lower because it's harder to treat either (floor treatment would get in the way of walking .. ceiling treatment can end up too low). If your ceiling is heigh than that, unless you like to sit on a high pedestal, it then won't be an issue anyway.
@@natdenchfield8061 Thanks for your input! The distance between my floor and ceiling is 2,74 meters..