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Why Starmer must lift the two-child benefit cap | Stephen Flynn Interview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Keir Starmer is close to failing the first test of his leadership, the SNP's Westminster leader has said, if he does not commit to abolish the two-child benefit cap.
It was hoped the policy would be announced in Wednesday's King's Speech, in which Labour will lay out its plans for the first 100 days of its government.
Enacting the plan would benefit around 1.6 million children, who are missing out on thousands of pounds a year due to the two-child benefit cap.
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Proud to have Flynn as my MP. 🏴💛
2 child cap is a devolved issue. It's the SNP who are choosing not to.
@@Fountainwell49man no it isn't, you should check your facts before commenting, scot gov has limited social security powers
he is a muppet
@@keirmitchell5560 who do you support? farage? starmer? sunak?
If you kept the cap in place but agreed to pay the free school meals for all children, then responsibility to children would be met without huge cash payments to those with huge families.
Looking at policies in isolation sometimes does not give a true picture.
Great comment. And ensures that the spend is going towards bettering he living standards of those children not paying for dads sky sports subscription. Which in turn builds support for future policies aimed at tackling child poverty
I'm 24, a father of 3 and the Scottish child payment is a game changer
If you can’t afford kids don’t take them into poverty, think of the kids and not of yourself. Take personal responsibility and don’t expect others to sort it for you!
I bet you're the type to also complain about immigration. British people cannot afford to have kids in current society as work does not pay what it used to. As a result we have a declining population and a growing ELDERLY population. We then need immigrants to fill jobs. The solution is to make having children as easily affordable as it was in the 80s and 90s.
TAX THE RICH, FEED THE KIDS! jeeez how hard is it
That needs elaboration, tax asset income.
The rich control the media, and the media decides who is in power
Absolutely spot on
Reduce tax, stop having kids if you cant afford them
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Asset income is already taxed. What is not kept in check is excessive asset wealth, families of aristocracy keeping gifted assets in the family for centuries and living off the wealth they generate. Holding assets in trust and avoiding inheritance tax time and time again due to loop holes created for farmers. These people are not farmers, they just rent land.
One of the few voices of reason in Parliament.
For real on the disappointment when you don't get fajitas for tea. 😢
Never wanted fajitas as much as I do right now
When I was a kid we occasionally had to go without Fajitas and sky TV, so of course I know the difficulties families are facing.
@@NeonVisual With, or without your plastic blanket to watch 'Baywatch' on?! 💔
What's a fajita?
15.4 billion paid to private Landlords in 'housing benefits'. Only 12.6 billion paid in 'child benefits.'
Isn’t it funny that a lot of Tories are land lords
@TomChambers-dz7cy I never said different. Labour is at least equally guilty. No renters are represented.
Maybe if they made a conscience decision to limit their families to the amount they could financially subsidise like everybody else has to might mean they could pay their own rent or mortgages?
@@davidatkinson5858 They already do exactly that. White British families restrict themselves to 2 kids. The larger families are imported foreign families.
@@paulgibbons2320 which was my point exactly.👍
Well said Mr Flynn absolutely spot on mate
What we forget with this evil policy is that a working parent could have been recently diagnosed with cancer & become unable to work and & would not receive full support for a third child. Why would anyone vote Labour?
What did Conservative do???
@@user-ei8eo6qz8o Have you forgotten Labour is now in Government & is making a choice to keep this cruel policy
It's a Tory policy changed in 2012 by Cameron to reduce to the 2 child policy, furthered by Osborne in 2015 to include tax credits. "Why would anyone vote Conservative?" - Is what you meant?
@@BumbleyBoo I agree but why would vote for a party that is choosing to keep a brutal & cruel policy of Osbourne & Cameron? Let me be clear it seems you've forgotten labour is in Government!!!!
If they were in that situation £40 every 4 weeks will do bugger all to improve their situation. Responsible parents should have a life insurance policy that pays out when diagnosed with terminal cancer. These policies are available for £10 a month, relying on the government for anything is foolish.
Is it awful to suggest not having a third child if you can’t provide for it?
No I really don't believe it's awful!!
How dare you mention personal responsibility this is a labour country now.
Why should i pay for more children that parents cant afford. Do not scrap the cap.
How many children shall be funded6,7,8,9,10? Wheee shall the numbers stop, Labour didnt put children in proverty, i am sorey this man is wrong, what happens in Scotland doesnt happen all over the world, the money for child proverty is not small. I thought you all didnt want Labour to put up tax.
Does parents have no responsibility in this? I am sorry I am not here to work and pay taxes for people who just sits and make babies, I pay tax for older people woulf cannot work and need help, i work for peolpe wirh disability, illinesses etc. You made your children take care of these do you know many country in the world dont give benefit and people are not complaining about it as the UK does
Mr stalrmer keeps talking about funding for war defence but we are not at war.... taking children out of Poverty must Must be A first priority for the labour government with immediate effect
Children should choose parents who can afford them - its called personal responsibility.
Thank you
I know you think that’s a clever point, but family planning is key to addressing child poverty. No third child is going to benefit from their dad getting a bit of extra cash to put towards his sky sports subscription
@@user-yo4js7vc7v why do you assume that they wouldn't spend the money on their children?
Also why does your name appear in the Russian alphabet in my alerts? Are you a Russian troll trying to cause division and instability?
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@@user-yo4js7vc7v I know who you are
Where do you draw the line, certain communties in the U.K. have an average of 3.8 children I went to school with someone from that community who had 7 siblings . should we be paying for people to be having that many kids when they can’t afford it, but they willingly choose to do it anyways.
Where do you call the line on how many kids the tax payer needs to support.
Whilst other people who might of wanted more kids might restrain because they know it’s too much of a financial burden.
Exactly.
It's not the childrens fault if their parents are irresponsible.
Lifting the cap incentivises the irresponsible.
The Mighty Flynn. 💜 Thank you xx
There’s a difference between not being able to do something and choosing not to do something. Labour are just as bad as the Tories and will be seen as the same party if they don’t start changing things for the better. One of those things is lifting people out of poverty. They have the money, the means to find the money and the choice of how to spend it.
Plenty of money for trident,.
If only you could be sure that it would go to feed the kids!
Ridiculous comment
Lifting the two child benefits will only encourage more migrants .
Not if it’s only applicable to British parents which is the case anyway
A devolved issue. SNP is keeping it in place. Bravo.
@@JenniSummers-dc4hw that’s not bad is it tho good modesty. I’m looking at all the WW1 pictures English women seem to be wearing the headscarf. Better then getting country full of only fans girls.
Let's encourage people who can't afford to have kids, to have more kids which they can't afford...It's ok, the tax payers will foot their bill 🙄
All MPs should try to be as honest in their answers as Stephen Flynn. Well said 🏴
The only problem with lifting the two child benefit cap is the Muslim community that have 8 or 9 kids end up costing the state an absolute fortune and its unfair on British families have one or two children
This is a question when we find out how much the Scottish Labour MPs care about Scotlands people. Either they're for Scotland or their Westminster masters they can't be both. Labour in Scotland represents a foreign government they certainly don't represent Scotland and only the gullible voted for them.
If Labour get in in 2026 election, Scotland can say goodbye to the Scottish Child Payment as Labour are a English based party and can't have different policies in different parts of the UK.
Spot on!
@@ScottishRoss27whatever
@@ScottishRoss27 absolute shite, there are already different policies for different places
@@AlexHamilton86
If Labour got into government in Scotland,
They'd scrap all the gains achieved by the SNP in Government.
Labour are an English based party therefore their branch office in Scotland cannot have different policies as it'l undermine Labour in Government in England.
Hold them to account
@sheilabloom labour only just taken over we cant judge yet after 14 years of Conservative.
It's funny how people ask the SNP ''Because you lost so many votes have you lost the mandate for independence?''. After the last Scottish election there WAS a majority of MP's that campaigned for independence and the elected Scottish government were just told 'no' by Sunak. Starmer said he would do the same. It's just funny that journalists only ask about the independence mandate when the SNP don't have the numbers but when they do magically they don't seem to care about mandates. No voters in 2014 are responsible for the last 14 years of trash coming out of UK politics into Scotland. We would still be in the EU and would be able to press ahead properly with progressive policies instead of being chained to this center right shit show called Westminster that cares only for the private sector. Starmer's front bench literally have publicly praised Thatcher FFS! 😂😂😂😂
Throwing money at the problem isn't going to make things better.
Lift them out of poverty ✅
Give more cash to parents who can't afford the kids they chose to have when we have family control clinics and a 100% literacy rate ❎
Give the kids school meals free to lift the strain, give the kids discounted or free school trips, give high performing pupils who're from poor households financial reward for staying out of trouble, trying hard in school and changing the narrative. Set them up to succeed and want to succeed.
Parents who can't afford kids but has them for the sake of it have already proven they're not making the best decisions so why give more cash? The kids are the future invest in them and let their hard work be rewarded
If people want to have more children why should finances restrict a human desire? The economy actually needs ppl to have more children, hence why the topic is everywhere atm. Low birth rates = less workers = less growth = more immigration required also.
The two-child benefit cap is a cruel, cynical and immoral policy. In practical terms it means that all the children in the family are deprived, since the available money has to be stretched further. I also hate any kind of stigma on a child that implies that he or she should not have been born.
Don’t have too many kids.
But they chose to have that many kids…
@@inphowatcher9748But the child didn't ask to be born, and shouldn't be punished for existing. In any case, as others have pointed out, people might be doing reasonably well and then fall on hard times. If this country learned to nurture all its children, we'd be repaid later in a more stable more productive population.
@@inphowatcher9748 Knowing full well benefits will only pay for two.
how back in the day u only got money for ur second kid none for ur first so whos kids do i have to pay for??
This is a "New Labour" government, not a Labour Party one... Labour has not had power since 1979, 45 years ago... Be honest and use their real name.
Why can’t we have Mr Flynn as PM? He’s got it all - and most importantly, he has integrity… it shines out of him.
Sorry - he's destined to be PM of the Republic of Scotland within the next 5 years!!
Because his party just lost most of their seats?
Let’s all have more kids and go on benefits then and nobody works, that way everyone can sit on their arse and be paid for doing it, fair enough right?
Love Stephen Flynn, thoroughly decent guy
Here we have the SNP once again talking sense and the Scottish electorate chose to reduce their voice down to 9 seats, it's sad that the one party who always tries to do what is right for the UK are seen as the enemy. What many fail to understand about the SNP is this: Yes they want independence BUT they also want what is best for the UK and the people of the UK WHILE we are in the union, as what is bad for the UK is bad for Scotland and they love Scotland with a passion and do not like to see it's people being mauled by bad decisions.
So now they will try and put forward an amendment in WM on the issue to try get Labour to be sensible but it will amount to nothing with only 9 seats, in the meantime Scottish labour MP's "Scotland's voice at the heart of a Labour Government" (remember that beauty) will do nothing but what the whip tells them. Never forget this, there is not such thing as a Scottish Labour MP, just Labour MP's. Feel free to check the Electoral commission and search for registered political parties. They don't exist.
How much did the SNP pay you to write that bilge? When you lose an election, saying ‘the voters got it wrong, not us’ usually doesn’t end well
@@heremyjunt What bilge? You disagree with what I said? Fine. State why and fully explain otherwise - shut the fuck up.
@@heremyjunt what part is bilge...please explain ?
@@user-io5tv1rv4v well for starters it’s pretty ludicrous to claim that the SNP are the only party who do what’s best for the UK when they’re literally trying to break it up…
@@heremyjunt you broke it yourselves....years of tory misrule and your idiotic brexit....
Yes let’s increase taxes of hardworking couples who can’t afford children so the scroungers can keep having more, who then also end up on benefits. Well done labour
Don't have kids if you cannot afford them - not rocket science.
So poor people can never have a family? Don’t be daft.
@@peterdelmonte9832 By your argument, you then expect everyone else to pay for that poor family's choices? I think not. People should be thankful that you can claim up to two children at all, if you want more than that then you should be expected to pay your own way for your own family in which you decided to make your own decisions within.
Also government; why aren’t people having kids 😂😂😂
@peterdelmonte9832 You can claim for two kids. If you want more kids, then work harder & pay for them yourself!
84 million to Africa.
As a middle class, fairly decent earner living in the South East of the UK, I couldn’t agree more with Flynn.
If you can’t afford it don’t have more children simple as. Why should someone else pay for your poor decision.
Of course it is terrible seeing children in poverty but ultimately it’s their parents who are to blame.
Yes there are some who are not in the right circumstances etc have kids young… but why should someone else pick up the bill.
Sorry I disagree on this one. Lifting the cap would result in those fiddling the system having more children to get more benefits.
The fix should be not paying people to have more kids.
Sir Kid Starver is doing exactly as expected
I don't think this cap should be lifted. I had 2 children back in the early 80's and stopped because I wouldn't have been able to afford any more. I understand that families circumstances can change but you have to think about this before you decide to have more than 2.
Yes future kids being born this should be considered, but what about the already starving families with 3+ kids??
@@thatgushiekid1662 Some people just have too many children that they can't afford to keep. More than 3 children before the cap was in place would have cost a lot of money but they still had more. People need to take more responsibility and not expect benefits to pay for their lives. My husband is one of 10, the oldest is now 97 but they didn't have all the hand outs that are available today, they just got on with it.
If people want to have more children why should finances restrict a human desire? The economy actually needs ppl to have more children, hence why the topic is everywhere atm. Low birth rates = less workers = less growth = more immigration required also.
When I was a kid we occasionally had to go without Fajitas and sky TV, so of course I know the difficulties families are facing
Child benefit does not go to children, it goes to their parents.
I don't believe that the cap is the best way to get children out of abject poverty that includes hunger. Unfortunately some parents have other pressures too, ones that could mean loosing their home, expensive bills or a chaotic lifestyle. These "other" pressures often can have a priority over food. Using money that is given directly to children via breakfast clubs, free dinners and after school clubs. These, with the inclusion of better child and adult services is the better use of funding for now.
More can be done to help children directly this way, which is the plan for now.
Utter shite
Scotland has shown otherwise & has been backed by charities working in the field.
@@hashburystumble8808 Looking at the data my comments still stand.
From CPAG "In Scotland child poverty remains high, but is EXPECTED to start falling significantly as a result of recent policy interventions" March 2024. "
Unfortunately the trajectory is still upwards from the period 2018-2021 it has risen from 20% (before housing costs) to 24% in the period 2020-2023. After housing cost have risen from 21% in 2010 to 24% in 2023.
Which indicates that other pressures as well as housing are over riding the payments from Gov to parents.
Child poverty markers are from the standpoint of a family income perspective.
I still think intervention directly with children will make the fastest difference.
Saying that, it would be nice for the rest of the family to feel the same benefit. In the fastest time.
I think at least 3 children. That is a start. Its the single mothers I feel for or the mothers who has to leave an abusive relationship and now has to bring up her children alone. It’s all well and good saying stop having them if you can’t afford them but a lot of women didn’t choose to have children alone.
Should have used your brain, if your partner is abusive, why have a kid with them? No excuse 😅
Labour doesn't care about the working class because Starmer doesn't.
Labour keep people poor because poor people vote Labour.
Neither did Corbyn…..
Yeah but his dad was a tool maker tho. Y'know, just incase anyone had missed that.
@@butternutdiabetic7984
Make UK report the other day
34,000 manufacturing jobs in Engand lost last year.
@@Believe-you-me-how's that relevant?
will they scrap it? depends how well that policy tests on talk tv i guess...
Why should the tax payer pay for kids if you can’t afford kids don’t have them.
It's revenge, it won't actually release the hostages. In Minecraft.
(I was talking about the two-child benefit cap)
I get angry when i dont get fajitas for tea!
but labour have a child poverty strategy.
what is that strategy?
🤷♂ know one knows and they aint saying.
JUST BELIEVE
where have i heard that before?
"fix the thing we spent 14 years breaking immediately"
Is it a thing that needs doing? Yes. Are there things that need doing first? Personally, I think so. Can Labour do everything at once? Obviously not.
And Stephen Flynn said it himself: 14 years of Tory rule. That doesn't get resolved in less than a month.
Yeah which is why I think this is just Politics form the SNP to get their name in the headlines. "Look we care about the kids". Labour have only been in a couple of weeks. I think they would have pull this into the Autumn budget.
love stephen flynn
Funfacts. Employers in the UK are not obligated to pay for children. One child or ten, your wages never change. If you asked for a wage rise because you have kids, then you would be laughed out of the office.
Our system is just not set up right.
Don't forget the 4 wifes
@@Ktf2309 why would someone deserve more money than another person doing the same job, because they chose to have a child
@jonathanhill9504 Because most of our employers only pay substance wages, which are only enough to pay for one working adult.
@jonathanhill9504 Deciding who is 'deserving" is a complicated question.
Are you suggesting only people on the wage of a legal or a doctor should be allowed to procreate ?
You're cheering on your own slave masters and you can't even see it.
Yeah rightly so, you think you've earned a pay rise because you've had a child? Entitlement much?
Red Tories at work.
£26 a week.. game changing. Okay then.
Hah, I was going to make fajitas for my tea tonight
I’m sorry but why am I paying for other peoples brats ?? I don’t have children because I don’t want the expense of it purely and simple. If you can’t afford 2 children let alone 3 or more then that’s on you , stop going with the begging. BOwl to the tax payers
The Autumn Statement by Rachel Reeves.. she will find the cash to do it. Under promise, over deliver is their plan.
Maybe. People kept telling me before the election that Starmer and Reeves were keeping their secret radical agenda under wraps so as not to antagonise the Tory press, but I still have my doubts. If it happens, that's great, but impoverished families could really do with the extra money from this week rather than waiting until Autumn.
It's imperative that the cap is abolished.
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He dismisses the financial difficulties around the UK government removing the 2 child policy but when pressed on his own governments policy he immediately falls back to financial difficulty.
Westminster and Holyrood are entirely different in how they are funded. Westminster holds the purse strings for both and can increase spending on whatever it decides, Holyrood must work within it's allocated budget.
Brexit has cost over £100 Billion so far, imagine if we'd spent that on the country instead of Brexit lies and fantasies, time reparations were paid, Brexiteers owe us £100 Billion !!!
whos kids??
Don’t lift the cap.
4:23 what’s the guy in the background with the black gloves on up to? V sus.
Working!
Only problem is there's about 2,000 things that need reversing/repairing.
The thing is with taxing is it will still take quite some time to build the coffers required.
Could be done instantly.
@@4R53Hole They have to find 18 billion to make sure we don't have Austerity again, the Tories forward spent the NI money there was no fiscal headroom it was paid for with promises of more cuts
@@SlowhandGreg Yeah but the 18 billion figure comes from the fact that Labour have committed to sticking with the Tories arbitrary fiscal rules. Choosing to stick with conservative economic policy is a political choice that they are making, and it is fair to judge them on that decision.
@@literallyJoel For now at least. I'd give them some headroom as we're finding out more sticking plasters the Tories kept quiet. Like the state of the prison system being considerably worse than expected.
@@tonybrett5209 of course it doesn’t quite work like that, does it? The government doesn’t collect pennies in s jar and break into it once they’ve filled it up. It’s a matter of telling the BoE to add some zeros to a figure and THEN working out how much tax is needed to balance that figure in order to prevent galloping inflation and deciding what to tax and by how much to make that happen.
But I suspect you knew that all along.
Glad labour and conservative are of one mind on this. It’s not a spending priority and need the grownups to take difficult calls. I agree on tightening up CGT and dividend tax and offshore bonds. Plenty of cash to fix the urgent stuff.
Stephen - why don't you lot focus on getting our national debt down. LIke the rest of us you all want a positive personal balance sheet - why don't you run the country in that way? It's atrocious - forcing us all to keep paying for your wasteful spending. You would never run your own affairs like that!
No he musn't. If people want more kids they can go to work and stop relying on the taxpayer to fund their choice in lifestyle. Having a baby is a CHOICE. Choose BETTER.
Which will mean that we need to bring more workers in from abroad. Judging by your ignorant statement I'm guessing you're the type who wouldn't be too keen on more foreigners coming here.
Fajita Flynn
What about the father getting their kids out of poverty?
I wish , after 17 years the SNP would do something good for the country they are meant to represent.
Que the standard excuse, it’s no us it’s Westminster
What are you blethering about? The man is right there telling you what's being done in Scotland, with progressive taxation.
Oh poor wee Flynn - Scotland being embarrassed by Germany hardly registered on England fans' radars.
He should have some great housing policies, seeing as how England football lives rent free in his head 🤣
Does the UK need to increase the population?? If yes, let the immigrants stay, much cheaper than raising babies....
Now tell us what your plan is to pay for it. I get wanting it gone - a lot of people want it gone, as it's a policy which punishes people for changes in circumstances. The problem is that if all you do is say "Make it go away", you're not solving a problem, you are carping from the sidelines and trying to sabotage a new government, rather than acting as some sort of moral leader. Of course, the latter is really the priority here: the SNP want the gloss to come off any new government before there's Hollyrood elections - they're perfectly allowed to do that, but let's not dress it up.
He said they could increase taxation on the wealthy.
craig , on the never never mate ,its just going from 104%of gdp as a national debt to 105% of gdp , the banks print it out of thin air , we live in a fiat economy , so we go to the money tree give it a shake and our kids are fed , there should be no reason for keir starmer to wear the tory tag kid starver , he could easily stop kids going hungry
@@Skygrey2943 One specific policy which has been recommended by Richard J. Murphy, is to start taxing capital gains at the same rate as income tax, which would net the Treasury £12bn a year. It seems very unfair that a person on very ordinary earnings pays a higher rate of tax than somebody who gains their income from investments.
He literally just listed a bunch of things that could be done to raise the sum required.
It’s a choice. If Labour chooses to prioritise the desires of their donors over the needs of the voters, so be it. They will be out on their ears - and perhaps we’ll before 2929.
Meantime, children remain in poverty.
@Skygrey2943 What he gave is the crowd pleasing first line of an answer. What route, what methods, do they have a plan for knock on effects? How about dealing with the inflationary pressures of increased spending on staple goods? Do they mean asset rich or just people who have a high income? If it's asset rich, is there a plan to deal with asset owners upping charges on things like rental property? If it's income rich, does he understand that's a tax on well off workers, not the truly rich? How will they deal with the political fall out of one of Labour's first moves being a tax raid, because it will be significant and lasting (which may be the SNPs goal).
It's not a one line answer policy solution. I really wish it was, but it's not.
What next! Pay for extra wives!! Oh wait a minute that actually exists 😮
LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN KIDS OR DON'T HAVE THEM!
Isn't this the infinity immigration guy?
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Steve Flynn acting like a child on Twitter
Where's the money???
Ask Michelle Mone.
Cayman Islands
We have money to increase "defence" spending...
@@keithparker1346 we don't, the 1st priority is finding 18 billion so we don't have another round of cuts to services.
Exactly that we had money to send to Ukraine but we don't have money to look after our own.
The other way to look at it is that parents are choosing to bring those children into poverty. 2 child cap is realistic, affordable and manageable.
times change , a family grows but one or both parents lose work , incomes are shortened by no choice of their own , then there is divorces , and a parent left to raise the kids alone , all by fate falling foul of the 2 child benefit cap , passed by mps who claim so much in expenses ie benefits for them and their never ending line of kids
As a parent that's got ill so currently don't work we don't all pick to be in the situation. I'm lucky and I already had my finances in good order and have a council property that we survive perfectly fine even with the cap but that's not the case for many many people.
@@tomfinney3416 Most are poor all along.
How is this guy still leader? He lost the majority of his seats. And anyway, no one is stopping them having children. They can have as many as they want. Just dont expect me to pay for them. Its called personal responsibility.
The leader of what? What the fuck are you talking about?
This guy isn’t the leader of the SNP he is their Westminster representative. Also, discouraging people from having children is a ridiculous sentiment. We have a rapidly ageing population because people can’t afford to make good money and raise children at the same time. If you’re against immigration too then you’re truly lost. An ageing stagnant not working population places high demands on taxes and on the NHS. Get your head sorted pal
@@CaptainQuoHe is the leader of the SNP in Westminster. He lost 84% of their seats!!
@@arbbr9397They are not capping the benefit. They are capping the amount of money someone can claim.
Don't have kids you can't provide for.
The point of government is to help ppl who can’t always provide for their families each month
@@jamesannetts4449 There are millions of people who irresponsibly have kids they know they can't provide for at any time.
@@PlutoPhobia-qg6wn People should be responsible. Having several kids when you're broke is clearly wrong.
@DavidZ4-gg3dm what if they had say 3 kids when they're doing well then a family tragedy meant they were without the same income? Too late to not have the kids then!
You mean don't have parents who can't afford you
Good to see the wind taken out of his sails - lots of good intentions corrupted by the bs which is Scottish independence. He should switch over to Labour.
Don't agree - if you can't afford more than 2 kids, don't have them.
Ever occur to you that maybe when you get pregnant you can afford it, then life changes and suddenly you can't?
It's such a stupid argument made by stupid people. I'm sure you're not one of them though, right?
@@petersmith6678 no, Im not, it's called forward planning. I don't make dumb long term financial commitments. But people like you blame everyone else for your poor decision making and expect other taxpayers to prop you up. If I can't pay my mortgage in a few years, is the state going to pay it for me? No.
@shinydarknight01 you do understand that they might of been in a good financial point in there but then there rent could go up they could of lost there jobs?
@@loganjeffrey4136 I lost my job, I got a better paid job 🤷🏻♂️. My mortgage is prob going up next year, but I get rid of debt to cover it. It's not rocket science.
@@loganjeffrey4136 I lost my job. I got a better paid job. My mortgage is prob going up next year, but I pay down other debt to cover it. It's not rocket science
Labour can find money for weapons and war, but not for children in poverty, says everything about Kid Starver and his party.
Hmmmm..now...who demographically would benefit from lifting the two child benefit cap 🤔🤔🤔🤔......hmmm... I wonder 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔....
Pretty much all low income families whatever their background.
Children?
Vasectomies are free in England….
@@PlutoPhobia-qg6wn my parents could afford me. You can still have two kids and receive benefits for each.
Sorry but after two thats it the goverment really shouldnt be giving anymore and before anyone comes at me no im not rich and yes i have 2 kids and if i had a 3rd id still feel this way
SNP sitting talking like they know how to look after there people when we are sitting here with high drug deaths and poor kids and schools 🏫
why outta interest?
Ppl who say the same thing usually cry about white brits not having enough kids and then complaining when more immigrants r brought in to make up for lack of workers
So reduce support to... ...make more kids poor?
The more poverty the higher the birth rates.
@@4R53Hole ever herd of work ? How about they sort it so we can work to feed our family's and not pay threw the noses or here's a bright idea use condom and other kinds of protection to not have a 3rd kid cos you can't afford it they are all free for you 😉
We can’t afford to pay for extra children the parents should look after there children they decided to have them they should be able to afford to look after them not the tax payers
Its not perfect however our birthrate is on the floor. Hence why we need alot of immigrants to fill the void. Until that is addressed it will carry on.
SNP currently can't field an 11 man football team with their MPs so they need to be quiet
Ridiculous attitude, their job is to speak for those who voted for them.
Let's interpret the real meaning of this statement.. 'get back in your box you Jock bastard' speak plainly you colonial 🤡. :
Don't have kids you can't afford to have.
I'm the eldest of 4 siblings and my parents did not receive handouts. My dad worked with the same company my entire life and put himself through college while I was a baby. Working the fruit market in the morning, college during the day and work at night. He built his way up through his work and has remained through 3 seperate takeovers of the business.
My mum worked 3 jobs at one point. Self employed with each one. Working from early in the morning to late at night.
If they stopped working, even for a couple of weeks, they wouldn't be able to pay the mortgage.
Improve sex education in schools and make vasectomies more widely accessible.
I would argue that no-one should have to work 3 jobs just to make ends meet. An arguments about whether someone should have had another kid or not aside, at the end of the day the kid wasn't chosen to be born, and they are being condemned to poverty for something they have no control over.
On one hand you want people to have less kids cos it's impossible to raise them in a society where everything costs a fortune. Therefore there is a shortfall of people paying into the system..and on the other hand you want to stop immigration.
@@literallyJoel They didn't do it to make ends meet, they did it to provide a quality life for their children. They could've moved us to some council estate which is exactly what they worked so hard to get out of.
If you struggled in life and want other people to struggle in life because 'you turned out fine', you did NOT in fact turn out fine.
@@rickparkinmoto amazingly, my siblings and I all have degrees and don't live with our parents. Seems like my parents hard work paid off. But hey, I didn't turn out fine because I believe in working for a living.
Your kids are your responsibility not every tax payers What about the millions of invisible people single or those who chose not to have kids who get no help struggle but are taxed to the hilt to pay for other peoples kids
meanwhile, you probably complain about the immigrants we NEED because British people are not having enough kids.
Kids wouldnt be in poverty if people stopped having too many if you cant feed them dont breed them. Take note all you muslim brethren.