In order to sample another artists song, you have to do a few things. 1) Acknowledge its theirs 2) you have to ask for permission 3) Credit them on all filings 4) Pay them. Nobody in the music industry can sample or take other songs without permission, if they do they get sued for theft annd lose millions. See fugees or robin thicke / pharrell. They stole and paid dearly for it. *Its even worse for comedians* because they rely on the element of surprise to get laughs many times. So for many jokes, they lose their luster if they have been heard by the same audience numerous times. Its why comics have ot come up with new stuff often. Music has a lot of replayability, comedy does not.
Used to hate that shit that’s how you know people out here are mad corny. Can’t even make they own jokes let’s just say what someone else said that’ll make them like me 😂😂
@@damnedifido1062 While it seems unlikely, it is possible since there is a lot of money in the business. Though many comedians have been called out for stealing so I am sure this will just be ignored and blow over. Many people like Steve Harvey so much that they will ignore this as sad as it is.
This girl in middle school stole my hairstyle idea for an upcoming competition. I had shown her a pic to ask for her opinion. She said it was whacked, yet I still executed my idea perfectly. She won. She went on first. I was thirteen. Now i am forty-five, and I still get upset when I randomly remember. Till this day, she re-tells the story of how she won (we have common aquantences). Justice for Mr. Katt Williams. Much respect for that man. *Edit: Here's more context. The competition was about representing our city by showcasing wearable art. When all the girls started talking about making dresses, capes, hats, etc, I went to what I thought was an original idea and incorporated my hair. I made my hair the main attraction. I live in a city where the heat during the summer can get up to 122°F. I came up with the idea of styling my hair in a 🌞 theme. At that time, I had thick, black waist-length hair. The prize was a trip, some cash, but most importantly for me, recognition and validation for my hard work. They were also going to print the picture of the winner in the local newspaper. I was seeking my dad's approval. He rarely praised anything I did. This was my moment to shine! So, I worked very hard and diligently by washing my neighbors' toilets, dishes, and any other household chores. I did this for six weeks. I gathered enough money to buy the stuff I was going to use on my hair (hair spray, coloring, beads, clips, etc) for one "trial" run then for the real thing. After the trial, a friend of mine took pictures so I could recreate the hairstyle. Being thirteen and naive, I showed the pictures to the girl who stole my idea. She said it was whacked and dumb to represent with "just hair." I pay no mind to her comment even thou I valued her opinion because she was the popular girl in school. I was not. I was short, chubby, and wore second-hand clothes. Anyway, my parents were too busy with my younger siblings to pay me much attention. In my thirteen year old mind, I truly believed that by winning my parents, especially my dad, would be so proud of me. That girl took that away from me. She showed up first. By the time I arrived, she had said to people that she had a "feeling" that I would copy her. She went on first, and I went second to last. I modified my style to make it look original, but it didn't work. It looked messy and dirty due to the massive amount of hairspray I used (you know, when you comb your hair with tons of hairspray, it gets flaky and whitish). Not only did I not win, but I also was made fun of. Now, I have been a married woman for twenty-five years with two adult sons. I'm happy, and that competition when I was a girl did not define my life. It was a life lesson like many other lessons in life. I'm happy with my family, and I'm fortunate to have a wonderful man who loves me 😃🥰
Stuff that happens when you are coming into your own as a young woman can really hurt. For the other woman to still be proud of stealing your idea shows her life is lacking. People with integrity savor life more-I believe MUCH more. Someone who would still brag about what she did may feel empty inside. You know you had a great idea. Please keep letting your creativity flow for the rest of your life because you have a gift!
@gadguard she's just sharing an anecdotal experience to explain that she empathizes with Katt Williams as two humans who have been snaked and burned. Have you tried not being a jackass?
Isn’t calling out evil in our community protecting the community? How is ignoring wrong doing helping the community? We need to get rid of that mindset.
Blacks are indoctrinated to think "racial solidarity" Its okay to call out bad behavior unless your black I guess? I seriously think this is the stupidest shit ever
The only type of people who think stolen jokes are not a big deal are people who have never created anything worth talking hence they have no concept of being robbed of their effort
This isnt the only part of the interview we wanted to cover. We'll definitely discuss the men in dresses thing for movies, as well as the hollywood stuff he discussed.
There is a difference. Feminizing black men is disrespectful and intentional. If they aren't putting them in dresses, they make them play a gay man. It's to deny and destroy a black man's reputation and image. It sounds crazy, but if you start to pay attention, you see it a lot. A lot more than any other race or ethnicity.
Actually it's FAR worse than all that , in every domain , but I'll doubt you'd be able to talk about it all on air .......Thesis directors putting their names on thesis students' work , software with backdoors giving the opportunity to steal the source code and data of of foreign research teams using it .....Secret service wiretaps of talented nobodies , giving out jokes , inventions , trade setups and whatever may be useful to people they wanna turn into intellectual , comedic or music productivity "superheroes" they can pump in the medias and make stars out of because they need the guy as a media agent ( and damn well "held by the balls" cuz the moment they stop to "feed" him with the good stuff , the guy flattens like a pancake and he knows it , so he's gonna continue to execute "orders" be sure about it ) ....Look at the movie "confessions of a dangerous mind " with sam Rockwell for the confirmation of what I say about agents in the medias
@EmilDamil-wt1yf There's a HUGE difference between wearing men's cultural attire or being forced/persuaded to wear women's clothing as a man. And they don't just mean wearing a dress, they mean playing a female character. It can be considered humiliating and emasculating.
Not a comedian but an artist (drawing not music) and this pisses me off so much. I’ve seen so many artists get their works reposted without credit, have their watermarks removed, designs get put on clothing and sold for profit, art get fed to ai, and so many people don’t see an issue. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen, “Well if they didn’t want it to be stolen they shouldn’t have posted it on the internet.” It’s so wild how everyone can understand how stealing music is immoral, but don’t see it the same way with every other creative endeavor.
How in the current climate can an artist get their name and work out there but through SM? I'm a singer and write poetry. And I have heard of big companies ripping off artists designs . Temu for example and it becomes a David and Goliath situation. It's tough to be an artist.
@@DrSoappYou've missed the mark with your comment. Reacting to and proffering opinions on current events and issues is NOT the same as stealing other peoples work,intellectual property and using other creatives talents to prosper their own companies and careers in the arts world.
There is a difference between: being inspired by someone's joke and approaching it from another angle, and stealing it. I am glad you guys pointed that out.
@@robertoj.9509They are paying homage to the original material, not stealing it. Like the comment said there is a difference between stealing and approaching from another angle. When a band does a "cover" for a song, they take the idea of the original and turn it into something new not just rip it one for one
@@sclapple3192 Uh, what? They sing the same lyrics, they use the same chords progression, and even the same instruments... Sure, they might change a high note, or the duration of a note, etc, but it's the same thing. Just like all these "stolen ideas" if you see, none of them are doing the same body movement, they're changing the tone, they're changing even the context, and not even using the same words... There's really no difference between a cover and what these comedians did.
Katt has been consistent for years...and most if not all he said can be proven tp be true. The best is when he defended Bernie Mack. That was real respect right there. Bernie & Steve fell out when Bernie found out Steve was trying to undercut him for the Oceans Eleven role...that was the reason he turned down doing another Kings of Comedy tour. Katt came wirh receipts...notice all who came out triggered tried to insult him but never said he was lying tho
Kat Williams may not be in all these current A list films, but he still sell out shows and still has integrity/self respect. He respects up and coming comedians and doesn’t gatekeep, giving other comics opportunities.
Let's be honest Katt is not that marketable as an actor. Very few entertainers will successfully cross over to other genres. So for him to say a person is an industry plant, chastise a person for altering their look to get a role or say the industry made their consumers belive someone is attractive through some secret Illuminati type of control is irresponsible. Now with that being said no one should have to ever suck, touch or blow an a penis... for success. Lol
He's a hacky comic, but a good dude. He's wise, well spoken, and keeps his private life on the dl. I respect him a lot despite not caring for his comedy
Yes I did coz I’ve watched it all, knew what it was from in a group of people who I found this DW episode and proved it and said Cedric is a thief!!! Silent room lol. Can’t believe my past intersected real life lol. 🙏🏻🤷♀️
@@lindabuck2777 The saying holds true. History is doomed to repeat itself. You were ahead of the game and I'm sure many people are thankful for the Revelation. 😁👍
Like Chappelle said in his "Unforgiven" special. A big comedian "borrowed" his joke but then constantly used it. He asked for it back and when he refused $20 for selling the joke the large man stood in his face and told him "it's my joke now, and there's nothing you can do about it" loosely translated. But it's been happening for a minute
@@kamonie3331 he never bullied anyone for their joke but the big thing I think of where he acts disconnected and Hollywood is when he acted like he didn't know what was wrong with Dane Cook and completely took over the stage for his own ego.
@@TheDarkAdventure I think the only supporters Amy Schumer has left are the "hurr durr women are funny" community and the odd NPC thrown in. FFS Brendan Schaub still manages to pull some viewers so I guess some people are just fucked up like that. dicey, dicey.
@@yunglion. The Ice Cube one is more like he's pointing out what Katt said is inaccurate rather than a lie because there's a big difference between the two. Cube said shit happened years ago and everybody recollect things differently. From what I got from that vid is that Katt's perspective on things is different from his and some of the things that he thought happened didn't actually happened. A lie is he knew what actually happened but tells a different story.
@@bilogskii2216 Cube did confirm that the part was never Rickey's because he didn't fit it and Katt was so good that he ended up with a larger role (because it was a small part) and he did write/improv for it. Rickey just wasn't that guy🤷🏾♀️
Exactly how Katt said it would be lol Ice Cube said some things were contradictory, but note that 1: Katt never said anything bad or damning about Cube, and 2: Cube is producing still and has to keep face… but he never said Katt was wrong.
Let's not forget Dave Chappelle in his special 'Unforgiven' talks about how at only 15 years old an older comedian stole his 'good year condom' joke and 30years later still remembers about it. Also talked about how comedy central stole Chappelle Show from him. Goes to show how painful it is getting your work stolen. Matter of fact, that's intellectual property theft.
Katt breaks down the process of how he creates his jokes, and the way he does, I was mindblown. It truly is a craft and seeing these biggest names stealing them is egregious. I'm glad he spoke up. Bernie Mac spoke about this years ago, but everyone overlooked it. Also, Mark Curry spoke about Steve stealing his stuff already on the Mike & Donny show years ago and people ignored it.
People did not ignore it the internet wasn’t as popular as it is now and why do you think Katt Williams kept saying the truth is coming out 2024 because he definitely know it’s hard to sit here and lie when the internet can break it down for you now
I always found it insane that people believed the industry hit piece that katt was on drugs then just ran with it. The man has been arrested 20 times and never once was caught with drugs...
What Aba said at 13:40 13:50 was spot on It's why most of them don't go back to stand up or if they do they bomb bad The only exceptions I've seen was the Late Great Robin Williams, Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, Jeff Foxxworthy, Chris Rock and Sarah Silverman successfully go back to stand up
Crazy part is, it doesn't make black people look bad to call out bad behavior in their community, it makes them look righteous. When individuals call out the community for bad behavior, it makes the community look bad and the individuals respectable. When the community calls out individuals for bad behavior, it makes the individuals look bad and the community respectable.
The biggest Problem with the black Community Public Image IS that IT Looks Like black people defend criminals and Bad behavior all the time, in every Other Community there doesnt Comedian a Million people including whiny White saviors that try to justify every Bad behavior with a lame sob Story. If we think that the wider world specifically White people judge black people unfairly WE have to judge and hold our own Accountable because If we dont the wider Public will judge IT for US and then proceed to blame our entire group
Unfortunately thats not how it works in the Black community some of our celebs have a "DO NOT SLANDER" sign on their backs and the community just follows it no matter what look at R kelly or Boondocks all boondocks did was hold up a mirror to the black community and said " You look stupid change" and most ignored the warning
The wild part is we're thinking about a big comedian stealing a joke from another big comedian. Katt was basically a nobody at the time of the ComicView jokes that Cedric stole. Cedric had no idea Katt was going to become as legendary as he is now and thought that he was going to be able to snatch the joke and Katt was just going to have to hold that L. Cedric got bodied by Katt and the Internet. And I definitely feel that line about hearing something a long time ago and forgetting that it wasn't your original idea. That's what Lizzo got hit with when she used that "I just took a DNA test, turns out I'm 100% that bitch" line in her song that blew up, completely forgetting that it was a VERBATIM tweet that she had read years earlier. Lizzo had to pay dues and accurately list her writing credits after she got sued, The Kings of Comedy need to do the same.
I’m totally agreed about the joke theft, but I’m not so sure about the tweet. If people are naturally witty, there are phrases that are just going to naturally occur. Like Flat-earthers liking pancakes. I just made that up and I’m sure some (very bad) comic has said it somewhere. I think some things will be duplicated. BUT, the delivery & phrasing & tone of voice is what makes a comedian. Once you copy more aspects, yeah, it’s stealing material. As for bring UPS, you can’t be a UPS MAN and a box at the same time. I think you CAN be “UPS” because that implies a delivery. Anyone can expose anyone. If you don’t, isn’t that the R word? I’m not being nasty. It’s just people can’t believe in “equality ” (which I truly believe in), but then not treat all people equally. So thank you for this. :-)
I feel for Kat and the others so much… I’ve had plenty of my work stolen. From photography to horses I trained and sold. Then hearing that the person I sold it to is telling everyone they trained it themselves as they rake in money and awards. This happened to me a ton in college and in my 20s when I was super broke and would take any project or work I could get. Stealing is stealing, doesn’t matter what you do for a living.
In the horse realm dont you ha e proof of prior ownership and training? Pedigree receipts and vet stuff? Couldn't you call out false claims in that sense?
@@PlaylistProleteriat point still stands though doesn’t it? We are commenting on video proof of the theft and Kat is only just able to call this out and get coverage like this. Suppose the point is sometimes one doesn’t have the platform, perhaps even the energy, to call people out.
@@PlaylistProleteriat It’s not that simple in the world of high end competition horses. If you are already a famous well off trainer then it’s easy to get the credit. But if you’re a young nobody starting off, you take any and all the work you can get, train/fix the horse, then sell it to hopefully make a small profit so that you can build your reputation and business. Problem is, stealing the credit for another’s work runs deep in the high end horse world. Lots of “famous” trainers are infamous for hiring young hungry passionate help on a barely livable wage. Then making them do all the work, then once the horse is good, taking the horse for themselves to show for the paying client. They then get to keep all the earnings (anywhere from 100k to over a million at large prestigious shows) and on top of that prize trucks, trailers, saddles, sponsorships, more clients ect… You as the assistant can’t do anything because it’s technically not “your horse” it’s a paying client and you can’t really call out your “boss” as they will fire you and make sure no other trainer in the industry hires you for making them look bad. The famous trainers are all “friends” with one another and friends with the judges and people who run the shows. It’s not hard for them to pick up the phone if you make them mad and have you blacklisted from ever getting work again. Lots of people unfortunately bite their tongue or look the other way as long as their horse is winning. Typically the only way you make it is if you’re rich to begin with and can buy your way in, are part of an already famous established training family (aka your dad is a famous trainer) or the famous head trainer you’re working for makes a misjudgment and lets you show a horse they think isn’t good and you end up winning. So many aspiring trainers go bankrupt or never make it because of how the industry works and eventually just give up or accept their place as the assistant. Hope that helps kind of explain it.
@@user-kz2yt5ow7r sampling is acceptable because you can create something completely different. When you steal a joke, it's the same punchline and setup with just minor details changed to intentionally deceive the audience.
that idea of "don't expose people of your own community" is actually bad for any type of community in the long run cause theirs always going to be people that will take advantage of that to get away with things. and to be honest the idea of "my community" needs to be culturally fined tuned cause to many people feeling betrayed or on the other side don't care about that kind of thing except to get something out of it while never helping others.
Definitely an underrated comment. No matter what community it is remember that if you root out the people doing wrong you don't have to always be worried about how you look to the rest of the world cause you know your house is clean.
It’s tough for people to understand the work and art that comes with developing a stand up routine if you’re not into comedy… I think it’s evidenced perfectly w the UPS costume joke, the delivery alone is so important that Steve got “Awww” with his improper delivery cause he never worked the joke out.. he just stole it. Mike Curry got the reaction he wanted cause he created it and developed it to that point.
I noticed that too....... that "awww" from the audience. Because Steve simply stole it and didn't even bother to frame it as Mark the originator had.....
"Making sure they don't look bad in front of white people" has the same feel as when I told my grandmother my brother graped me and she responded "dont you go around talking that mess. What you think they gonna say about your moma? About us?"
I'm black and being around white and black people and seeing that type of circular arguments is frightening By trying to hide shady things you make it worse And so sorry you got violated
Only non creatives are NOT mad about the stealing of jokes. Creatives get it. It takes real WORK to create something and it is disgusting for someone to take credit for YOUR hard work. I get it.
@@rudesword2852100%. Absolutes are weird. Creative all steal from each other. The human mind is an accumulation of experiences that spit out products of those experiences. So yes. Ofc Creative people "steal". The question is do you get consent to use something. Or is it just different enough to be okay. Especially in this day and age
Gotta love the reverse racism. "Oh no a sensitive subject, why not invert our own argument. That'll make us seem smart" Also I used my fingers for that line of thought. Did you mean my metaphorical mouth?
In 1999 and 2000, I lived in LA because I was attending FIDM. My roommate got us an unpaid “gig” that was counted as an internship (which were important to have on your resume - at least back then - in the fashion world). We were “dressers¨, helping runway models do quick changes at an annual fashion show fund raiser Holly Robinson Peete holds at her house, in her beautiful back yard. Somehow my sparkling wit got me sitting in the Hollywood Hills in Holly’s kitchen after the event, where I was chit chatting with Holly, Angela Bassett and Mark Curry. And let me just say, Mark Curry was on fire. He was so funny, one joke after another after another and you could tell so much of it was just off the dome. That man is so talented and it makes me sad that he’s not still a big name in entertainment because I saw his immense talent, live, in person, and raw, just playing around, while Holly lovingly yelled at him to, “stop bouncing the damn basketball inside her house.” 😆 It’s fucked up to hear that bigger names stole from him and possibly even blocked him from getting to the very top. In my mind, he should be starring in movies now or at least have another tv show. Maybe he chose to step back and if he did, then I hope he’s happy and doing well but if it was taken from him…that’s a damn crime.
In my mind Mark Curry is a bigger act than Steve Harvey. I enjoyed the Hanging with Mr. Cooper show on TGIF back in the '90s more so than The Steve Harvey Show. It is a shame how a lot of the trail blazing comedians that blew up first in Hollywood are largely not in the fore front these days. But then again it could all be part of God's protective plan. Especially when you realize those folks who are in the forefront getting all the limelight today are all blinded by money.
He had a bad accident at home in 2007 and, almost, 20% of his body got burned. He was in deep depression after that and contemplated checking out. He said Sinbad, Bill Cosby, and getting some help from mental health professionals saved his life.
@@AnnoDomini97 Oh wow! That's such a shame. Sad to say, I haven't thought about him since his show ended and never bothered to look him up. I'm glad he had people to lift him up when he needed it though.
True. I came up with an idea for an inservice at work; next thing I know, another nurse was doing my inservice/training right in front of my face. I was pissed. So yes. Having your idea stolen gets you pissed off. And it happened again with another nurse, and I guess she forgot it was my idea, she came to me and started explaining the procedure to me. I looked at her and said “ I know, I came up with that routine remember?” She got pissed. I’ve learned to keep my ideas to myself.
You were pissed but did you go on a rant to HR and discuss not only her stealing your idea but everybody else's busy that may have been happening in the hospital? Probably not. You kept your ideas to yourself and moved on. This is what Katt should've done
@@exodiathegod1177that analogy lacks. The difference is you had people go to meetings w their nursing superiors and claim origination of those new processes when they know they weren’t. That’s the reason Katt spoke.
@@501sabu501 Decades later though..LOL.. He could've kept that especially since he said Steve and Ced apologized to him for it.. My analogy is that she confronted the nurse who did it and the nurse got pissed. Katt said he confronted Ced about it and he got an apology. Now how relevant would it be if that nurse continue using her idea and Nurse007 goes on a rant claiming and even proving it was idea..Y'all would think she's crazy and she should let it go...C'mon but I understand the role of apologists
@@exodiathegod1177 keeping with the analogy… the nurse apologizes to you in your face initially about stealing it but then decades later gets in the nursing superior’s office still claiming they came up with the process… Katt came on because Cedric, Steve, etc got on that same Shannon Sharpe program and lied to everyone. Try to make the analogy work chief. You’re purposely ignoring key information.
This doesn't only happen in community. It happens in family as well. Family members don't like being exposed infront of other family members for who they truly are. It happened to me just this last Christmas and New Year. My wife had been mistreated for years by her own mother and aunts, I was always there to support her and I encouraged her to speak up against it. The moment she did and questioned her mom about this behavior, and exposed the rest of her family, we were outcasts now, it's like "how dare you say I'm a liar and a hypocrite and expose my cover to everyone? even though everyone knows I am" but people prefer to stay quiet for 2 reasons to avoid drama and because they are in some way beneffiting from that person. It's wild to see how now we are the outcasts from the family, we are not invited to any family gatherings, even though we were the victims not the abusers. So yeah... Kat was right when he said "it's the year of the truth" It's better to be alone rather than being surrounded by people who are NOT REAL.
I get what you’re saying so much! There’s so much freedom in being outkasts tbh!! Kudos to you and your wife!! You guys can choose friends to make your family & make your own by having children ❤
@sarahanderson6913 OH yeah I understood that process before my wife, I had the same discussion with my father. He blamed me for moving out at 18 just because he spent all his savings and expected me to support the entire family. That happened 18 years ago and we had talked about it and "solved" it but damn just a few months ago he told me he was disappointed and never forgave me it was shocking to me. So I just told everyone in my fam, if this behavior continues and everyone is ok with it I'm no longer going to visit them, they can expect no calls no visits 0 contact. Mom changed her mind asap and backed me up, my older brother just listened (I'm the youngest) my dad never apologized but still sort of recognized weeks later how he fucked up. All these discussions or "fights" happened the same year lol its just surprising to me how many people are just tired of this BS behavior and no one wants to stay quiet anymore. Stand up for yourself, be brave for you and the ones you love. Fight for what's right for you. That's the real love.
They have done you a favor by "casting you out." Now, you don't have to waste time on them anymore-you and your wife can go and have some REAL fun next Christmas. 🎉😅
@aaabbb8812 yes! Exactly what we did. Wife was upset at the beginning, first holidays we spend alone but at the end it was worth it. That peace is priceless. 💜
17:00 I'm a white dude and I'm glad you explained this so I wasn't making myself feel crazy. I could tell there must be some unspoken thing in the black community where dudes don't call out other dudes, even for doing questionable shady shit. But honestly what Katt is doing is so much more respectful because he is being REAL. Maybe he'll be an inspiration to more brothas to simply speak the truth and call out hypocrisy within your own race. I as a white guy already have mad respect for y'all so you shouldn't worry about looking bad or feeling vulnerable for speaking the truth if it's justified. Lord knows there are plenty of white a$$holes who the world would be much better off without. Katt really did break the Internet and now I can't get enough of him!
"as a white dude" 🤣 "as a white guy" 🤣 your race doesnt validate or invalidate any opinion. Just because youre black or white doesnt make something less true or more true, thats not how logic works "brotha" 🤣 Black people cant be caught calling out other black people because "racial solidarity"? 😋 You are crazy returd
I bumped into Aba at a train station in Ottawa 2 yrs ago. He was such a gentleman and simply smiled and took the time to greet me even though he was reconnecting with his mom. He's a real one for this.
Stand-up comedy is performance art, it's literally a one-person play. People need to realize that even veteran comedians will spend an entire YEAR OR MORE crafting a 1 hour set. Countless written drafts, countless hours of them workshopping the jokes in smaller towns with smaller crowds, audio recording where they should pause or use a different word, video recording to see how they should move on stage, changing the order of jokes to be more cohesive, and that's on top of actually having to be funny and not repeating anything you've done before! It's an art no matter how you slice it or dice it, but for some wild reason, people don't take plagiarism of it as seriously as other forms of performance. Could you imagine your favorite musician working for a whole year on an album, only for a completely different musician to lift that album, bar for bar and release it under their own name? It would cause an uproar. Musicians nobody has heard of have sued huge musicians for millions and won for a melody just being similar, or for sampling without clearance, but comedians are just supposed to sit down and take it when their stuff gets lifted. Katt told zero lies and I'm glad he finally got a platform to lay it all out. You notice how nobody he mentioned has responded calling him a liar...
When Kat Williams accused ludacris for joining the illuminati. You think he was lying. Because if he was being metaphorical he is also part of the illuminati. He's also heavily exxagerating in this interview. He made the jokes seemed like they were stolen word for word
If people think Joke stealing ain’t a big deal, then why was Dane Cook blasted and shunned for years after he was at the height of comedy. He stole jokes too
@@ghariiscool Yea, I don’t think people realize how big of a deal it is, notably in the comedy sphere. Carlos was at the height of his fame when that happened, but as soon as he was called out for joke theft, his career went down the toilet. From ragging on him in real life to the internet. Got so bad that I remember even comedians making jokes about him over it to audiences. That man never recovered after that. No one ran defense for him, no one gave bullshit “parallel thinking” type of lame excuses. He got shamed and ridiculed for it and pushed out. That’s how it should be. Way too many anymore want to give joke lifting a pass and it starts to make you wonder if these are the same types who ever so casually take from other creators in other areas of life to not see a big deal with it. I question anyone trying to justify this shit.
This is beautiful to watch and to expand on the thoughts, this is what so many Women and children have been subjected to in our community, the double victimisation of being told its Anti Black to seek justice for abuses because the perpetrator is a BM. Protecting predators in all realms has become synonymous with being Pro Black and it sucks big time. Loved the receipts ❤️
@@NaaSippingMocha I’m being serious when I ask this, but are you saying you know or know-of women and children who’ve been told it’s anti-black to tell the authorities when they’ve been physically harmed by black man? Like deadass?
I was posting my poetry on snapchat story to share with people and I had an old acquaintance from middle school who started to do the same thing. At first I wasn't really thinking about it until I noticed he copied word-for-word on a specific poem I wrote just an hour earlier. I messaged him about it and he was doubling down until I mentioned about going to court with that, which he stopped immediately and apologized. When you are creating art, you gotta own your work and step up when people start copying your flow, so I personally agree with y'all and Katt Williams. Keep up the great work yall 🎉🎉.
This happened to me on Facebook. I posted a status about drama. This one girl stole my status and posted it on her wall. I called her out in the comments. She messaged me privately and got the audacity to apologize after stealing my words and saying no disrespect. I called her out, and she blocked me afterward. And I'm sorry that happened to you.
Same in academia. My 2/3 of poc mentors talk the craziest to me. One of them, a black woman (just like me) wanted to prevent me from attending a writing group and decided to tell public safety and several profs I was a threat when I told her she was being unfair, and that I will attend. All the other advisors told me I was being confrontational by telling her that and no one but her friend was willing to call her out on it. I reported her for harassment and got the college investigator on it, but once I said the prof was black and female (like me), suddenly I couldn’t move forward with the case. This happened several time hen I told my law professor, fellowship director, and others. They know she was using racial epithets against me, but because she was a black woman too, it suddenly didn’t matter.
You got the Uncle Tom label. Political Correction can't tread on your minority status, so you get privilege points. Now you're a white person in value to their ideology. It's sad era. Being Black or White doesn't matter to the people who think that's important. If you don't agree with them, you obviously aren't one of them. It's completely childish.
You are 100% right about hearing something in the past once and it sticking in your mind subconsciously, then using it years later thinking it was originally from your mind. That happens all the time
I like to think I am a pretty funny guy. So last year, I started doing open mics, just to see if I could make strangers laugh with a joke. And I was shocked how hard it is to come up with a premise, and craft a joke that not only has a punchline. but also has the right delivery, cadence, etc. So, I can totally understand why people would have issues with jokes being stolen.
Stand up format is a little stale tbh, a lot of it has been done thats why its so difficult as a new person starting. Which is also why podcasts are gaining a lot of popularity with comedians not because its a popular format right now but the way the situation is more free form helps alot with creativity.
@@zoulzopanTill people cease to have the ability to laugh & all of life become boring & bland & we all live the exact same life, perceive all the same way, there will always be something new for comedians to talk about. Standing before an audience & talking isn't new but content/ info/ jokes delivered isn't always the same.
That was one of THE BEST interviews I’ve ever watched. Had my undivided attention for almost 3 hours and that man had wisdom after wisdom to lay on the audience. And props to Shannon for letting the man speak so thoughtfully. Katt’s background is fascinating and explains a lot of why he is the way he is now.
The messed up part at 4:48 is not only was that featured in every comic view promo or commercial But Cedric was the host of comicview at that time so he knew damn well about the joke so why would Cedric outright lie about not stealing that joke?
@@Chuck_EL I watched the interview Shannon did with Cedric. When the joke stealing got brought up, he was super vague, saying the timeline didn't match up and dismissed it as a lie. Then IMMEDIATELY went on to say that comedians are influenced by each other, so it's possible to steal a joke but that's not what happened in his case.....So what you're saying Ced, is that you stole it😂😂
@@Nikki_with_the_blikkiYup! None of these people responding are calling Katt a liar, they try to distract you by calling him “angry” or a “hater” or he’s on drugs, etc… but there have been stories about some of this stuff outside of Katt and where there’s smoke there’s usually fire. I heard about Steve hating on Bernie outside of Katt.
Totally loved how your partner let you explain this really complex theory to us without saying too much. Usually you guys are rowdy but he knew what you were saying was like taking us to school. Great partnership you guys have.
Can we talk about the fact that Katt's interview was almost as long as Avengers: Endgame, but still got over 22,000,000 views (and counting) in less than 48 hours?!
one of France's biggest comedians (Gad Elmaleh) has built his whole career stealing jokes from Seinfeld and others yet he still has a career a lot of people know he steals yet he's still regarded as a great comic. people are just scared to come forward and calling him out. i really don't think it's a race thing some people just can't be touched .
Nah fam u missed the part where black ppl are dogging Kat for saying this because it was a black guy who stole kats joke. Black ppl have gotten so backwards here bro it's racist for black ppl to call out black ppl now😂
I'm glad as comedians you guys came out and showed this! Everyone's like 55+ getting mad at a man describing his own experience and calling him crazy and trust me kat has some of his own problems but he said no lie and it is just wild to see how people are coming over him. And I loved that he gave Bernie his roses too so no it's not he's crazy and bitter, the industry did Kat wrong!
The reason why all the old comedians is mad because he’s messing with their legacy and that is something that they cannot go back and rewrite they’ve been exposed so now all their materials and famous lines and sold out shows and jokes has now been question if they really wrote their own material or not it is a big ego blow
S/O to yall for giving Shannon props. So many ppl online giving him shit about his interviewing skills when it's not an interview it's just a conversation, and I like how the entire episode went ad well.
@@EmperorDxDThat's only a clip 😂, and all of them (a lot sir) are reaching that number, the real has 21 million views in the Shy Shy Club channel 😂😂😂😂.
They say “imitation is a form of flattery”, but not when someone does that for a living. Because it goes to show that they rather steal from someone else than make something themselves to where it gets accepted long enough that others do it. Glad Katt spoke up on this issue towards getting it the attention it deserves towards a potentially bigger issue at hand.
Glad to see this being called out too. The lack of adressing problems is neither healthy nor fixing problems. It's pure denial and continuing the cycle. Saying "but for the community" is more like a mass self/peer enforced manipulation tactic. Also keeping people in that cycle.
9:00 Aba is 100% right. The funny thing is, Cedric also stole a pop locking joke from this comedian named Scruncho and he used it in the Kings of Comedy, too!
I remember people literally told me I was lying about Cedric stealing Meshach Taylor's designing women joke @ 9:19 when it was literally showed on freaking tv smh Rip Meschah Taylor
@@Chuck_EL I did not know about that. That’s super lazy of Cedric, but he got away with it. Maybe he took a calculated risk that not enough of his fans watched that show. Crazy.
I am slowly getting addicted to this channel. I’m in my 50’s from a small town in Wales 🏴 and these two gentlemen give me hope and AB’s from laughter. It’s an amazing mixture of making light of heavy subjects. I am not good at expressing myself but I hope my admiration comes through.
@@noonyabeezniss4911 it depends on your definition of dead and alive lol. I've lived quite an interesting life and whole heartedly embrace the quiet life.
I am glad you guys spoke up as Katt did. People trying to ignore these lazy clowns stealing other people’s work. These so-called top-tier celebrities do it all the time. Sick!
This is 100% legit. There's alot of stealing of intellectual property in the world of arts and entertainment,more than the general public realise. There's quality non famous people within the industry doing good work and providing good content and but for a great break don't necessarily get the attention that they deserve. Yet someone higher up hears about what they're doing or something they've done that has a flash of brilliance and they steal it and bring it to a wider audience. I work in the arts world so I know this first hand myself. And to have your ideas taken and used by someone with more of an audience or someone you've networked or collabed with is tough,knowing they've taken a good thing and used it to make themselves look better and become better. Being a creative,entreprenuerial artist is a challenging world to be in. I've not heard of Katt Williams before but I applaud him and anyone who is willing to call out people who have made their fame and fortune off of the talent and ideas of others.
Most people will never fully grasp how much of their favorite media is just a blatant rip off of other people's ideas or products. What's worse is when you can show someone, with proof, they still don't care and will actively defend their favorite artists. "They made it better, did it better, improved it..." blah blah
@@matthiasthulman4058 yes, that too and judge you harshly for standing up for defending your ideas and work. Even when faced with the facts they still want to believe that the more well known person has to be better at it because they're well known.
@@MusMasi Sadly the general public haven't the same view because they're not as informed or even interested to look beyond the surfaceand be informed. It would certainly make me look differently too. I'd actually question how talented that person actually is.
Thanks for posting! I didn't know Steve and Cedric were joke thieves. Stealing jokes is something that never crossed my mind. I mean comedians have so much freedom to either tell a real life story or just make something up. Stealing jokes is pretty low. Especially if you didn't ask for permission to use it.
@@nikeshamorrow9444 nah he wouldn't have apologized to katt years ago if he hadn't stolen it. That's part of what had him so pissed about what ced said on club shay shay. He apologized to katts face then went on to lie in Shannon's. Ced literally did the can I copy your homework meme.
@@NRG-REC , I saw two different jokes. Simore has a joke about driving a car, Kevin has a joke about driving a car. All the black comedians talk about the same stuff because they all have similar experiences. Kevin talked about your car breaking down and the radio being to loud. Ced talked about white people trying to get away from black people and never escaping. At no point did Ced space ship break down and he had to push it. Sometime you apologize just make peace if you believe or not.
I've always told my comedian friends to write their material down in a book format and even lyrical format. Have the joke written down in the proper format so you can copywrite the joke as literature or lyrical. You can have it in the form of a PDF, sell a single copy to yourself (or even free,) and now they can't steal it anymore without serious legal problems.
Katts recorded video puts it into a format. So why can't he sue? Cretive copyrights needs to meet a threshold or criteria. Simply writing it down doesn't make it enforceable by law.
@@AlenAbdula So a comedy special is protected as a whole show, and the individual performance itself. So the words themselves are not protected, only the performance as presented in a filmed special. Also, I didn't say just write it down. I said write it down in a format that has a proper protected copywrite. You still have to own the copywrite and go through the easy process to do it. I own a publishing company with thousands of copywrites therein.
You know what happens when you check each other and call stuff out? You become better as people. You get stronger and better because you do better, you don't want to get blasted and tossed out for being shitty to your own. That's what you want and it will only help the community.
It's also why the term "constructive criticism" exists. Not everything should be a 0-100 moment, people (should) still be able to take critiques and not attribute that to a personal attack or hate.
Kat Williams is one of the greatest comedians of all time!!! I went to one of his shows, and I never laughed so hard. He doesn't get enough credit because he is not industry popular, and he exposes people! It's sad to witness that other popular mainstream comedians are stealing his material. How heartbreaking is that?
That concept you talked about of accidently stealing a joke is a phenomenon called "cryptomnesia". It's when you come up with an idea that you believe is your own original idea but is actually something that you experienced at one point and forgot hearing or seeing.
Back in the mid-90s, I used to hang out at the Miami Improv, and I told someone that I was friendly with and worked there that I like Carlos Mencia. He began to tell me how he would steal jokes from other comedians. I stop supporting Carlos Mencia after that. As a Latina woman, I can care less about protecting a stealing Latino man. It's about supporting whats right.
It's called mental manipulation, and as a black person, I can say without a doubt that we can be easily manipulated through entertainment and fear. I am so saddened by the younger generations' ignorance of this. Major companies, three letter agencies, etc. have figured this out YEARs ago. Colleges even do this. They use students' creative juices to forward to big companies and governments. (Colleges get grants for great profitable student ideas)
You can look up the Milgram Experiment on betraying your own morality when a person of perceived authority compels you to do evil. The Stanford Prison Experiment was about how the students given the guard role learned to oppress their fellow peers who played the prisoner role, with Learned Helplessness being a byproduct of prolonged physical and mental affliction.
I'm glad you touched on situations where similar or same jokes can come from different people without anyone stealing and focusing your point on people actually stealing jokes. You guys have always been good and premtively addressing topics that some viewers may end of conflating makingit clear that there is always nuance but then there are people who know exactly what their doing.
I’ve heard about more good things Kat Williams has done for random people and comedians than most other comedians or actors. And the news doesn’t come from him. It comes from the people he has helped.
There was a scandal like this with French comedians too. Some years ago an unknown person exposed them and showed they stole lots of jokes from American artists. Back then TH-cam wasn’t as big and we didn’t know that much about US comedians, we have been *fooled*
A lot of people don't understand how serious it is to be stealing a comedians jokes. Those same people would never get infront of a crowd and try telling their own jokes. They cant even fathom how difficult that really is.
No one can do Katt's comedy. Katt's a GOAT in his own right. Even seasoned comedians taking his stuff can't do it nearly as well as Katt does. Katt is just plain funny.
This is one of the most important discussions we're currently having in comedy, music, and a few other fields. I'm glad you mentioned the fact that sometimes people come up with remarkably similar ideas completely separately, with no thievery or even inspiration between them. There's a big difference between thievery and inspiration, anyway, and anyone who slips up and recycles something without realizing it would be more than ready to own up to it if it gets called out. It's the people who are stealing who get elusive, confrontational, or otherwise suspicious in their behavior. "I don't even wanna sound like someone" is a good sentiment to live by, in my opinion.
This just made me realize how easy it is for a high profile comedian to steal jokes. Unlike music, jokes aren't protected by a label. Comedians should start forming comedy labels to get their material patented. That Dave Chapelle bit made me think what if he actually saw Aba's set and he knew that, what due process would Aba even follow?
This shit is a tale as old as time. Robin Williams would walk up to comics with a check and just tell them "I'm taking that joke. Here's your compensation" and that was just it. It was his joke. Shit like that has been happening forever.
People are tired of lies. We want the truth❤ and I am happy to see things come to light whether in Hollywood or in my community. I feel more people are on Katts side. Grace of God and pure goodness of the heart will always prevail
Regardless of what some think, Katt is UNDENIABLY a Legend in the comedy game and a master at being entertaining. The interview was a pleasant surprise! 🙌🏽
Robin Williams used to steal jokes all the time, he didn't really steal them on purpose, according to him, but he would see them once in a club and when he mouth was going a mile minute like he did he might reach back and pull a premise out not remembering that he'd heard it elsewhere. But the difference with Williams is when confronted by the original comedians he would say that it was possible he did and cut them a check for what is reported to be $10,000. I don't think that absolves him but it buys a lot of peace.
Look at Amy Schumer, Ive seen countless videos over the years, were when she was coming up, aside from screwing her way to success she got caught over and over stealing from actual comedians. As far as Kat, I still remember the 1st time I saw him, I was in a juvenile center, not juvie, it was like a long term program, in between that and jail, and 1 of our staff brought in his new dvd and youve never seen 30 teens spending an hour just dying the whole time. It was incredible!
I'm glad he said that about the black community, as I get older, I get more annoyed, we get more offended about the black people that call out the dumb shit we do, and we get labeled the bad ones. I could tell, the way Kat spoke, nothing that dude said he thought was a lie. He had conviction.
8:54 guys,I’m 56 and Eddie Murphy raw hit home and hard because I was a brother from another mother. Crazy family,abuse,alcohol,suicides and most abuses that a human can self inflict… I laughed as I cried and remembered every word. He helped me realize something church never did,at that time,he let me know that I wasn’t alone. God chooses his own jesters and Eddie’s on the list and nobody can take him off,not even himself with stupidity,🤷♂️ Never apologize Eddie,never apologize for telling truth and making people think and feel.
I was waiting for you guys to cover this too! 😅 Katt has called them out years before this. Seems his passes have been exhausted and just said "F*ck it" and let it rip. Beyond him wanting to air out grievances, the underlying message to me was to let truth have its place. It's not about fighting each other. If we can admit that there were lies peddled, then we can also clear the air and get back to working together if we think we can/want to. To succeed doesn't require that we f*ck somebody over.
I love the quote “lies go around the world by the time truth puts on its pants”, but I would add “but once truth arrives, everyone knows”. What’s funny is that the internet is like that nosy neighbor that peeped the husband or wife cheating. You might have been able to get away with it for years, but once she moved in, you can’t anymore. Some of these big time “comedians” have probably been doing this for decades, and now the dirty laundry is getting aired out.
Unfortunately there are too many lies people are blindly believing anymore and I think that has always been true. It makes me wonder just how much we know of history and the people who took part in it are actually true and how much has been lies told to smear the innocent and defend the guilty.
I'm overjoyed bruv that you guys are telling not just the truth, but directly to black people. We need to hear this and we need to continue to expose the horrible people.
It's not limited nor relevant to Divine Black People Only. Weak-minded manipulative corrupt beings Are in need to be held accountable by All particularly by those who are Real Ones Respectful and with Mindful Mindset. One LOVE To All The Real Ones Everywhere 💚➖🌐➖💚
@@mjstinson8225 you’re not technically wrong, but my “divine black people” continue to give passes to garbage because “you can’t call out blacks in front of others”. No, you are doing garbage, I’m calling you out.
@a.mp.m7340 bro its people like you as to why all these hacks are where there not supposed to be. "It's not that serious." If it ain't that serious why the fuck you comment?
17:25 Preach was preaching here. Definitely applies to family, friends / clicks, coworkers, etc.... its like u are forced to take it and suffer in silence.
Wow, I didn’t know they blatantly stole jokes like that… damn near word for word. Salute to you guys for showing the comparisons to back up what Katt was saying. Love the way you guys really break down, analyze, and explain the scenarios of each of yalls videos
as a white guy, I don't view black people exposing other black people as bad, bitter, jealous, angry or anything, in fact it's the opposite, I respect people that call out the bullshit and not hide it just cause they are scared or are afraid to be seen as what you described, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong, nothing to do with skin color, fame or nothing
Man too a joke and modified it, just like musicians sample other artist songs. I don't see what the fuss is about
In order to sample another artists song, you have to do a few things.
1) Acknowledge its theirs
2) you have to ask for permission
3) Credit them on all filings
4) Pay them.
Nobody in the music industry can sample or take other songs without permission, if they do they get sued for theft annd lose millions. See fugees or robin thicke / pharrell. They stole and paid dearly for it. *Its even worse for comedians* because they rely on the element of surprise to get laughs many times. So for many jokes, they lose their luster if they have been heard by the same audience numerous times. Its why comics have ot come up with new stuff often. Music has a lot of replayability, comedy does not.
Pin of Shame
Pin of shame.
Just say you're trash
Not gonna lie yall noggas saying pin of shame is corny af
As a former class clown, that would tell jokes in class and have them stolen and said louder by another student I feel his pain. Justice for Kat
Highpotenuse
Used to hate that shit that’s how you know people out here are mad corny. Can’t even make they own jokes let’s just say what someone else said that’ll make them like me 😂😂
Lmao my uncle used to do that at family gatherings
reminds me of that one key and peele skit
@@TheKellie36you beat me to it😂
Finally someone has the balls to expose the industry and Hollywood. Remember,Katt Williams wouldnt kill himself
You’re saying he’d be killed for exposing people for stealing jokes?
And Ricky Gervais?
A lot more people have been exposing them for 40plus years now.
Now more need to tell the truth about these seeds of the devil.
@@damnedifido1062 While it seems unlikely, it is possible since there is a lot of money in the business. Though many comedians have been called out for stealing so I am sure this will just be ignored and blow over. Many people like Steve Harvey so much that they will ignore this as sad as it is.
This girl in middle school stole my hairstyle idea for an upcoming competition. I had shown her a pic to ask for her opinion. She said it was whacked, yet I still executed my idea perfectly. She won. She went on first. I was thirteen. Now i am forty-five, and I still get upset when I randomly remember. Till this day, she re-tells the story of how she won (we have common aquantences). Justice for Mr. Katt Williams. Much respect for that man.
*Edit: Here's more context. The competition was about representing our city by showcasing wearable art. When all the girls started talking about making dresses, capes, hats, etc, I went to what I thought was an original idea and incorporated my hair. I made my hair the main attraction. I live in a city where the heat during the summer can get up to 122°F. I came up with the idea of styling my hair in a 🌞 theme. At that time, I had thick, black waist-length hair. The prize was a trip, some cash, but most importantly for me, recognition and validation for my hard work. They were also going to print the picture of the winner in the local newspaper. I was seeking my dad's approval. He rarely praised anything I did. This was my moment to shine! So, I worked very hard and diligently by washing my neighbors' toilets, dishes, and any other household chores. I did this for six weeks. I gathered enough money to buy the stuff I was going to use on my hair (hair spray, coloring, beads, clips, etc) for one "trial" run then for the real thing. After the trial, a friend of mine took pictures so I could recreate the hairstyle. Being thirteen and naive, I showed the pictures to the girl who stole my idea. She said it was whacked and dumb to represent with "just hair." I pay no mind to her comment even thou I valued her opinion because she was the popular girl in school. I was not. I was short, chubby, and wore second-hand clothes. Anyway, my parents were too busy with my younger siblings to pay me much attention. In my thirteen year old mind, I truly believed that by winning my parents, especially my dad, would be so proud of me. That girl took that away from me. She showed up first. By the time I arrived, she had said to people that she had a "feeling" that I would copy her. She went on first, and I went second to last. I modified my style to make it look original, but it didn't work. It looked messy and dirty due to the massive amount of hairspray I used (you know, when you comb your hair with tons of hairspray, it gets flaky and whitish). Not only did I not win, but I also was made fun of. Now, I have been a married woman for twenty-five years with two adult sons. I'm happy, and that competition when I was a girl did not define my life. It was a life lesson like many other lessons in life. I'm happy with my family, and I'm fortunate to have a wonderful man who loves me 😃🥰
Next time she’s bragging on Facebook, tell her (and everyone) about her lying ass
Im telling the 13 year old you, good job young lady 👏🏾
Move on? Let her peak in middle school retelling the story. 😂 People are funny.
Stuff that happens when you are coming into your own as a young woman can really hurt. For the other woman to still be proud of stealing your idea shows her life is lacking. People with integrity savor life more-I believe MUCH more. Someone who would still brag about what she did may feel empty inside. You know you had a great idea. Please keep letting your creativity flow for the rest of your life because you have a gift!
@gadguard she's just sharing an anecdotal experience to explain that she empathizes with Katt Williams as two humans who have been snaked and burned. Have you tried not being a jackass?
Isn’t calling out evil in our community protecting the community? How is ignoring wrong doing helping the community? We need to get rid of that mindset.
Blacks are indoctrinated to think "racial solidarity"
Its okay to call out bad behavior unless your black I guess? I seriously think this is the stupidest shit ever
Evil????
@@saints0931 Yes, Mermaid Man. Theft is evil
@@saints0931 It may be a strong word, but stealing material is wrong none the less
@@kwasiahenkora6583lol stealing resources is evil but a joke ?
The only type of people who think stolen jokes are not a big deal are people who have never created anything worth talking hence they have no concept of being robbed of their effort
Straight Facts ❤
Agreed! Also, these are the ones that push for socialism , they want to stay lazy and feed off of other people's hard work and innovation 😅
On me
Not really well versed in the comedy scene, but when Amy Schumer did it, it was a big stink. So why shouldn't this be?
Facts that’s why I hate most these rappers these days. It’s called Biting. And it WAS frowned upon. Muhfukkaz don’t care no more. Originality is dead.
"Winners shouldn't allow losers to rewrite history" - Katt Williams
FACT
That saying was so clean!!
Why are you qouting Katt and be using the wrong words to qoute him??😂😂
Should be a shirt.
And nobody wants to rewrite history more than the losers..
This isnt the only part of the interview we wanted to cover. We'll definitely discuss the men in dresses thing for movies, as well as the hollywood stuff he discussed.
Thanks appreciate your input on this
There is a difference. Feminizing black men is disrespectful and intentional. If they aren't putting them in dresses, they make them play a gay man. It's to deny and destroy a black man's reputation and image. It sounds crazy, but if you start to pay attention, you see it a lot. A lot more than any other race or ethnicity.
@EmilDamil-wt1yf I'm a man in Africa and I can tell you with full confidence WE DO NOT WEAR DRESSES 😑
Actually it's FAR worse than all that , in every domain , but I'll doubt you'd be able to talk about it all on air .......Thesis directors putting their names on thesis students' work , software with backdoors giving the opportunity to steal the source code and data of of foreign research teams using it .....Secret service wiretaps of talented nobodies , giving out jokes , inventions , trade setups and whatever may be useful to people they wanna turn into intellectual , comedic or music productivity "superheroes" they can pump in the medias and make stars out of because they need the guy as a media agent ( and damn well "held by the balls" cuz the moment they stop to "feed" him with the good stuff , the guy flattens like a pancake and he knows it , so he's gonna continue to execute "orders" be sure about it ) ....Look at the movie "confessions of a dangerous mind " with sam Rockwell for the confirmation of what I say about agents in the medias
@EmilDamil-wt1yf There's a HUGE difference between wearing men's cultural attire or being forced/persuaded to wear women's clothing as a man. And they don't just mean wearing a dress, they mean playing a female character. It can be considered humiliating and emasculating.
Not a comedian but an artist (drawing not music) and this pisses me off so much. I’ve seen so many artists get their works reposted without credit, have their watermarks removed, designs get put on clothing and sold for profit, art get fed to ai, and so many people don’t see an issue. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen, “Well if they didn’t want it to be stolen they shouldn’t have posted it on the internet.” It’s so wild how everyone can understand how stealing music is immoral, but don’t see it the same way with every other creative endeavor.
Artist vs artiste
How in the current climate can an artist get their name and work out there but through SM? I'm a singer and write poetry. And I have heard of big companies ripping off artists designs . Temu for example and it becomes a David and Goliath situation. It's tough to be an artist.
LOL You just described what happens on TikTok 24/7.
70% of the videos you see there are stolen.
Kind of like this react channel? The irony ....
@@DrSoappYou've missed the mark with your comment. Reacting to and proffering opinions on current events and issues is NOT the same as stealing other peoples work,intellectual property and using other creatives talents to prosper their own companies and careers in the arts world.
There is a difference between: being inspired by someone's joke and approaching it from another angle, and stealing it. I am glad you guys pointed that out.
Pointed out?
Bro it's common knowledge as has been for years
They just repeating what someone else said
@@noonyabeezniss4911
They're probably a generic bot comment.
So, all the singers who sing a famous song from a different artist in their live concert, are stealing the song? Be real.....
@@robertoj.9509They are paying homage to the original material, not stealing it. Like the comment said there is a difference between stealing and approaching from another angle. When a band does a "cover" for a song, they take the idea of the original and turn it into something new not just rip it one for one
@@sclapple3192 Uh, what? They sing the same lyrics, they use the same chords progression, and even the same instruments... Sure, they might change a high note, or the duration of a note, etc, but it's the same thing.
Just like all these "stolen ideas" if you see, none of them are doing the same body movement, they're changing the tone, they're changing even the context, and not even using the same words...
There's really no difference between a cover and what these comedians did.
Katt has been consistent for years...and most if not all he said can be proven tp be true. The best is when he defended Bernie Mack. That was real respect right there. Bernie & Steve fell out when Bernie found out Steve was trying to undercut him for the Oceans Eleven role...that was the reason he turned down doing another Kings of Comedy tour. Katt came wirh receipts...notice all who came out triggered tried to insult him but never said he was lying tho
Correct. Bernie separated himself from Kings of Comedy and did so easily.
“Indilt hom” What does that mean?
@@TheDweeb002 I think it was meant to say "insult him"
Love Bernie Mac. Super funny dude. Lost a good one.
Nobody can say kat is consistent, why are people rewriting history
Kat Williams may not be in all these current A list films, but he still sell out shows and still has integrity/self respect. He respects up and coming comedians and doesn’t gatekeep, giving other comics opportunities.
He's a goat he doesn't need too.
Let's be honest Katt is not that marketable as an actor. Very few entertainers will successfully cross over to other genres. So for him to say a person is an industry plant, chastise a person for altering their look to get a role or say the industry made their consumers belive someone is attractive through some secret Illuminati type of control is irresponsible. Now with that being said no one should have to ever suck, touch or blow an a penis... for success. Lol
A list means the biggest sell out lol most of the time. Essentially what you just said lol.
He's a hacky comic, but a good dude. He's wise, well spoken, and keeps his private life on the dl. I respect him a lot despite not caring for his comedy
He tried toooo , he was there and tried to be that guy
Damn, the person that found the joke on Designing Women deserves an award.
Nobody would have found that one under normal circumstances. 🤯
I'm like WHATTTTTTT!!!!
Yes I did coz I’ve watched it all, knew what it was from in a group of people who I found this DW episode and proved it and said Cedric is a thief!!! Silent room lol. Can’t believe my past intersected real life lol. 🙏🏻🤷♀️
@@lindabuck2777
The saying holds true.
History is doomed to repeat itself.
You were ahead of the game and I'm sure many people are thankful for the Revelation. 😁👍
Like Chappelle said in his "Unforgiven" special. A big comedian "borrowed" his joke but then constantly used it. He asked for it back and when he refused $20 for selling the joke the large man stood in his face and told him "it's my joke now, and there's nothing you can do about it" loosely translated. But it's been happening for a minute
And Dave said it was like his first really good joke and he was like 14 and the dude stole his joke.
And that person feels no shame at all for doing it
And Dave has absolutely gone out and acted out of self interest later, it's an unconscious cycle
@@Just.Arguing what are you talking about?
@@kamonie3331 he never bullied anyone for their joke but the big thing I think of where he acts disconnected and Hollywood is when he acted like he didn't know what was wrong with Dane Cook and completely took over the stage for his own ego.
The entire Internet got together to call out Amy Schumer for joke stealing and other bad behavior and still couldn't get rid of her.
12:35 alright now lol. That's been a phrase in the men's rights community since I was in like middle school and probably before.
She disappeared though. Haven't seen a movie or standup from her in years.
@@prettyteeth she's been in several guest roles on TV, her own movies, and her own TV shows. I'm happy you've been able to block out her existence
@@TheDarkAdventure🤣 I must’ve blocked her out too.
@@TheDarkAdventure I think the only supporters Amy Schumer has left are the "hurr durr women are funny" community and the odd NPC thrown in. FFS Brendan Schaub still manages to pull some viewers so I guess some people are just fucked up like that.
dicey, dicey.
Notice how everyone who’s responded to Katt hasn’t once called him a LIAR…🤔 That alone speaks volumes 👀
Look at the ice cube response
@@yunglion. The Ice Cube one is more like he's pointing out what Katt said is inaccurate rather than a lie because there's a big difference between the two. Cube said shit happened years ago and everybody recollect things differently. From what I got from that vid is that Katt's perspective on things is different from his and some of the things that he thought happened didn't actually happened. A lie is he knew what actually happened but tells a different story.
@@bilogskii2216 Cube did confirm that the part was never Rickey's because he didn't fit it and Katt was so good that he ended up with a larger role (because it was a small part) and he did write/improv for it. Rickey just wasn't that guy🤷🏾♀️
Cube never said he lied tho he back everything katt said even the grape scene all he said was they wouldn't of showed that but it was heavily implied
Exactly how Katt said it would be lol
Ice Cube said some things were contradictory, but note that 1: Katt never said anything bad or damning about Cube, and 2: Cube is producing still and has to keep face… but he never said Katt was wrong.
Let's not forget Dave Chappelle in his special 'Unforgiven' talks about how at only 15 years old an older comedian stole his 'good year condom' joke and 30years later still remembers about it. Also talked about how comedy central stole Chappelle Show from him. Goes to show how painful it is getting your work stolen. Matter of fact, that's intellectual property theft.
Dave Chappell has been doing your body my money since 2012 smh it started with Eddie Griffin in 2005 smh......
Katt breaks down the process of how he creates his jokes, and the way he does, I was mindblown. It truly is a craft and seeing these biggest names stealing them is egregious. I'm glad he spoke up. Bernie Mac spoke about this years ago, but everyone overlooked it. Also, Mark Curry spoke about Steve stealing his stuff already on the Mike & Donny show years ago and people ignored it.
So have dozens of others decades before your mention.
@@oldironsides4107You braze em all on your exit interview … rip into your supervisors and managers and HR 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
Do you have a timestamp for when he breaks that down? I'd love to see it!
People did not ignore it the internet wasn’t as popular as it is now and why do you think Katt Williams kept saying the truth is coming out 2024 because he definitely know it’s hard to sit here and lie when the internet can break it down for you now
Did Katt talk about stealing JB Smoove's joke..? I didn't hear that part.
I always found it insane that people believed the industry hit piece that katt was on drugs then just ran with it. The man has been arrested 20 times and never once was caught with drugs...
I don't know bro he looked pretty messed up at target and that time he fought that kid maybe just drinking but he did seem on one
I think he was just sauced @@206beastman
Good thing I said so what when that was doing the rounds lol
@@206beastmanyou don't see drunk people fight?
What Aba said at 13:40 13:50 was spot on
It's why most of them don't go back to stand up or if they do they bomb bad
The only exceptions I've seen was the Late Great Robin Williams, Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, Jeff Foxxworthy, Chris Rock and Sarah Silverman successfully go back to stand up
Crazy part is, it doesn't make black people look bad to call out bad behavior in their community, it makes them look righteous. When individuals call out the community for bad behavior, it makes the community look bad and the individuals respectable. When the community calls out individuals for bad behavior, it makes the individuals look bad and the community respectable.
The biggest Problem with the black Community Public Image IS that IT Looks Like black people defend criminals and Bad behavior all the time, in every Other Community there doesnt Comedian a Million people including whiny White saviors that try to justify every Bad behavior with a lame sob Story. If we think that the wider world specifically White people judge black people unfairly WE have to judge and hold our own Accountable because If we dont the wider Public will judge IT for US and then proceed to blame our entire group
To those who do right yes but to many who love protecting the abuser it fuels their hatred. Ppl are so evil
Thank you 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Lol..."Stay On Code"!!!
Unfortunately thats not how it works in the Black community some of our celebs have a "DO NOT SLANDER" sign on their backs and the community just follows it no matter what look at R kelly or Boondocks all boondocks did was hold up a mirror to the black community and said " You look stupid change" and most ignored the warning
The wild part is we're thinking about a big comedian stealing a joke from another big comedian. Katt was basically a nobody at the time of the ComicView jokes that Cedric stole. Cedric had no idea Katt was going to become as legendary as he is now and thought that he was going to be able to snatch the joke and Katt was just going to have to hold that L. Cedric got bodied by Katt and the Internet.
And I definitely feel that line about hearing something a long time ago and forgetting that it wasn't your original idea. That's what Lizzo got hit with when she used that "I just took a DNA test, turns out I'm 100% that bitch" line in her song that blew up, completely forgetting that it was a VERBATIM tweet that she had read years earlier. Lizzo had to pay dues and accurately list her writing credits after she got sued, The Kings of Comedy need to do the same.
They are not great entertainers! LIES
Ced is from Missouri too that one hurt my soul. But like Kat said the truth doesn't need to be scared of people who tell lies. Let it fly!
I’m totally agreed about the joke theft, but I’m not so sure about the tweet. If people are naturally witty, there are phrases that are just going to naturally occur. Like Flat-earthers liking pancakes. I just made that up and I’m sure some (very bad) comic has said it somewhere. I think some things will be duplicated.
BUT, the delivery & phrasing & tone of voice is what makes a comedian. Once you copy more aspects, yeah, it’s stealing material.
As for bring UPS, you can’t be a UPS MAN and a box at the same time. I think you CAN be “UPS” because that implies a delivery.
Anyone can expose anyone. If you don’t, isn’t that the R word? I’m not being nasty. It’s just people can’t believe in “equality ” (which I truly believe in), but then not treat all people equally.
So thank you for this. :-)
I feel for Kat and the others so much… I’ve had plenty of my work stolen. From photography to horses I trained and sold. Then hearing that the person I sold it to is telling everyone they trained it themselves as they rake in money and awards. This happened to me a ton in college and in my 20s when I was super broke and would take any project or work I could get. Stealing is stealing, doesn’t matter what you do for a living.
Oh wow, I'm so sorry you went through that hun❤. I remember doing stuff and people taking credit for it, it's a $h!tty place to be in...
In the horse realm dont you ha e proof of prior ownership and training? Pedigree receipts and vet stuff? Couldn't you call out false claims in that sense?
@@PlaylistProleteriat point still stands though doesn’t it? We are commenting on video proof of the theft and Kat is only just able to call this out and get coverage like this. Suppose the point is sometimes one doesn’t have the platform, perhaps even the energy, to call people out.
Horse thieving used to be a hanging offence
@@PlaylistProleteriat It’s not that simple in the world of high end competition horses. If you are already a famous well off trainer then it’s easy to get the credit. But if you’re a young nobody starting off, you take any and all the work you can get, train/fix the horse, then sell it to hopefully make a small profit so that you can build your reputation and business. Problem is, stealing the credit for another’s work runs deep in the high end horse world. Lots of “famous” trainers are infamous for hiring young hungry passionate help on a barely livable wage. Then making them do all the work, then once the horse is good, taking the horse for themselves to show for the paying client. They then get to keep all the earnings (anywhere from 100k to over a million at large prestigious shows) and on top of that prize trucks, trailers, saddles, sponsorships, more clients ect… You as the assistant can’t do anything because it’s technically not “your horse” it’s a paying client and you can’t really call out your “boss” as they will fire you and make sure no other trainer in the industry hires you for making them look bad. The famous trainers are all “friends” with one another and friends with the judges and people who run the shows. It’s not hard for them to pick up the phone if you make them mad and have you blacklisted from ever getting work again. Lots of people unfortunately bite their tongue or look the other way as long as their horse is winning. Typically the only way you make it is if you’re rich to begin with and can buy your way in, are part of an already famous established training family (aka your dad is a famous trainer) or the famous head trainer you’re working for makes a misjudgment and lets you show a horse they think isn’t good and you end up winning. So many aspiring trainers go bankrupt or never make it because of how the industry works and eventually just give up or accept their place as the assistant. Hope that helps kind of explain it.
Katt is the embodiment of “I’ll tell you a joke, but I won’t tell you a lie.”
Facts💯
For those that don't understand, I'll explain it like this...
Stealing another Comic's joke is the same as plagerism.
The joke is their WORK. It's like stealing a song or idea.
It’s much worse. Jokes are what pays the comics. It takes years to perfect jokes. They are stealing their time, money, and fame.
They can't even use their own joke since someone stole it because it be watered down. Its stealing their livelihood.
It’s more like sampling...still someone should get paid.
@@user-kz2yt5ow7r sampling is acceptable because you can create something completely different. When you steal a joke, it's the same punchline and setup with just minor details changed to intentionally deceive the audience.
that idea of "don't expose people of your own community" is actually bad for any type of community in the long run cause theirs always going to be people that will take advantage of that to get away with things.
and to be honest the idea of "my community" needs to be culturally fined tuned cause to many people feeling betrayed or on the other side don't care about that kind of thing except to get something out of it while never helping others.
Underrated comment. Also a very good point. Nothing should be limited to “communities”.
Definitely an underrated comment. No matter what community it is remember that if you root out the people doing wrong you don't have to always be worried about how you look to the rest of the world cause you know your house is clean.
It’s tough for people to understand the work and art that comes with developing a stand up routine if you’re not into comedy… I think it’s evidenced perfectly w the UPS costume joke, the delivery alone is so important that Steve got “Awww” with his improper delivery cause he never worked the joke out.. he just stole it. Mike Curry got the reaction he wanted cause he created it and developed it to that point.
Well said.
I noticed that too....... that "awww" from the audience. Because Steve simply stole it and didn't even bother to frame it as Mark the originator had.....
He even said, “Nah it wasn’t nothing sad or nothing like that”. He wanted them to laugh but they didn’t lmaooo
Both of the jokes he stole were poorly executed and it’s ironically hilarious
Well said
"Making sure they don't look bad in front of white people" has the same feel as when I told my grandmother my brother graped me and she responded "dont you go around talking that mess. What you think they gonna say about your moma? About us?"
My advice is speak. Speak if it is needed
If your own brother grapes you, he ain't shit and neither are those who raised him. Can't save the family honor because that family has no honor...
I'm black and being around white and black people and seeing that type of circular arguments is frightening
By trying to hide shady things you make it worse
And so sorry you got violated
This is the generational curse we all need to break. You're freaking awesome for speaking up as you did. ❤
Exactly what I was thinking- it's the same as a family staying silent when incest is occurring. #speakup
Only non creatives are NOT mad about the stealing of jokes. Creatives get it. It takes real WORK to create something and it is disgusting for someone to take credit for YOUR hard work. I get it.
So you never ripped an mp3 or movie without paying for it? You stole from "creatives" if you did that. But I bet that's okay with you.
@@rudesword2852100%. Absolutes are weird. Creative all steal from each other. The human mind is an accumulation of experiences that spit out products of those experiences.
So yes. Ofc Creative people "steal". The question is do you get consent to use something. Or is it just different enough to be okay. Especially in this day and age
@@DreadPagesshe’s somebody making it about her and calling herself a creative
we this,
them that.
@@rudesword2852when u rip a song/movie of the web are you claim that you created said content?
As black men, honor and integrity need to be more prevalent in our community instead of "get money, do work"
Maybe you would get more integrity if you stop prefacing your comments with "as a black men"
@@DrSoapp You're clearly not apart of that community. Watch your mouth.
Gotta love the reverse racism. "Oh no a sensitive subject, why not invert our own argument. That'll make us seem smart"
Also I used my fingers for that line of thought. Did you mean my metaphorical mouth?
How did you determine that the collective BM population has any more or less honor and integrity than every other race and gender group?
@@Zen-vb4ol you clearly aren't paying attention to the video.
In 1999 and 2000, I lived in LA because I was attending FIDM. My roommate got us an unpaid “gig” that was counted as an internship (which were important to have on your resume - at least back then - in the fashion world). We were “dressers¨, helping runway models do quick changes at an annual fashion show fund raiser Holly Robinson Peete holds at her house, in her beautiful back yard. Somehow my sparkling wit got me sitting in the Hollywood Hills in Holly’s kitchen after the event, where I was chit chatting with Holly, Angela Bassett and Mark Curry. And let me just say, Mark Curry was on fire. He was so funny, one joke after another after another and you could tell so much of it was just off the dome. That man is so talented and it makes me sad that he’s not still a big name in entertainment because I saw his immense talent, live, in person, and raw, just playing around, while Holly lovingly yelled at him to, “stop bouncing the damn basketball inside her house.” 😆 It’s fucked up to hear that bigger names stole from him and possibly even blocked him from getting to the very top. In my mind, he should be starring in movies now or at least have another tv show. Maybe he chose to step back and if he did, then I hope he’s happy and doing well but if it was taken from him…that’s a damn crime.
In my mind Mark Curry is a bigger act than Steve Harvey. I enjoyed the Hanging with Mr. Cooper show on TGIF back in the '90s more so than The Steve Harvey Show.
It is a shame how a lot of the trail blazing comedians that blew up first in Hollywood are largely not in the fore front these days. But then again it could all be part of God's protective plan. Especially when you realize those folks who are in the forefront getting all the limelight today are all blinded by money.
He had a bad accident at home in 2007 and, almost, 20% of his body got burned. He was in deep depression after that and contemplated checking out. He said Sinbad, Bill Cosby, and getting some help from mental health professionals saved his life.
@AnnoDomini97 Wow, I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing.
@@AnnoDomini97 Oh wow! That's such a shame. Sad to say, I haven't thought about him since his show ended and never bothered to look him up. I'm glad he had people to lift him up when he needed it though.
Sherri shepherd had a segment with Mark on her show recently…also had one with Katt.
True. I came up with an idea for an inservice at work; next thing I know, another nurse was doing my inservice/training right in front of my face. I was pissed. So yes. Having your idea stolen gets you pissed off.
And it happened again with another nurse, and I guess she forgot it was my idea, she came to me and started explaining the procedure to me. I looked at her and said “ I know, I came up with that routine remember?” She got pissed. I’ve learned to keep my ideas to myself.
You were pissed but did you go on a rant to HR and discuss not only her stealing your idea but everybody else's busy that may have been happening in the hospital? Probably not. You kept your ideas to yourself and moved on. This is what Katt should've done
@@exodiathegod1177that analogy lacks. The difference is you had people go to meetings w their nursing superiors and claim origination of those new processes when they know they weren’t. That’s the reason Katt spoke.
I was mad over some stolen baby names, party themes and hairstyle but you take the cake!! I’m sorry that happened to you! 😤
@@501sabu501 Decades later though..LOL.. He could've kept that especially since he said Steve and Ced apologized to him for it.. My analogy is that she confronted the nurse who did it and the nurse got pissed. Katt said he confronted Ced about it and he got an apology. Now how relevant would it be if that nurse continue using her idea and Nurse007 goes on a rant claiming and even proving it was idea..Y'all would think she's crazy and she should let it go...C'mon but I understand the role of apologists
@@exodiathegod1177 keeping with the analogy… the nurse apologizes to you in your face initially about stealing it but then decades later gets in the nursing superior’s office still claiming they came up with the process… Katt came on because Cedric, Steve, etc got on that same Shannon Sharpe program and lied to everyone. Try to make the analogy work chief. You’re purposely ignoring key information.
This doesn't only happen in community. It happens in family as well. Family members don't like being exposed infront of other family members for who they truly are. It happened to me just this last Christmas and New Year. My wife had been mistreated for years by her own mother and aunts, I was always there to support her and I encouraged her to speak up against it. The moment she did and questioned her mom about this behavior, and exposed the rest of her family, we were outcasts now, it's like "how dare you say I'm a liar and a hypocrite and expose my cover to everyone? even though everyone knows I am" but people prefer to stay quiet for 2 reasons to avoid drama and because they are in some way beneffiting from that person. It's wild to see how now we are the outcasts from the family, we are not invited to any family gatherings, even though we were the victims not the abusers. So yeah... Kat was right when he said "it's the year of the truth"
It's better to be alone rather than being surrounded by people who are NOT REAL.
Facts💯💯💯
I get what you’re saying so much! There’s so much freedom in being outkasts tbh!! Kudos to you and your wife!! You guys can choose friends to make your family & make your own by having children ❤
@sarahanderson6913 OH yeah I understood that process before my wife, I had the same discussion with my father. He blamed me for moving out at 18 just because he spent all his savings and expected me to support the entire family. That happened 18 years ago and we had talked about it and "solved" it but damn just a few months ago he told me he was disappointed and never forgave me it was shocking to me. So I just told everyone in my fam, if this behavior continues and everyone is ok with it I'm no longer going to visit them, they can expect no calls no visits 0 contact. Mom changed her mind asap and backed me up, my older brother just listened (I'm the youngest) my dad never apologized but still sort of recognized weeks later how he fucked up. All these discussions or "fights" happened the same year lol its just surprising to me how many people are just tired of this BS behavior and no one wants to stay quiet anymore.
Stand up for yourself, be brave for you and the ones you love. Fight for what's right for you. That's the real love.
They have done you a favor by "casting you out." Now, you don't have to waste time on them anymore-you and your wife can go and have some REAL fun next Christmas. 🎉😅
@aaabbb8812 yes! Exactly what we did. Wife was upset at the beginning, first holidays we spend alone but at the end it was worth it. That peace is priceless. 💜
17:00 I'm a white dude and I'm glad you explained this so I wasn't making myself feel crazy. I could tell there must be some unspoken thing in the black community where dudes don't call out other dudes, even for doing questionable shady shit. But honestly what Katt is doing is so much more respectful because he is being REAL. Maybe he'll be an inspiration to more brothas to simply speak the truth and call out hypocrisy within your own race. I as a white guy already have mad respect for y'all so you shouldn't worry about looking bad or feeling vulnerable for speaking the truth if it's justified. Lord knows there are plenty of white a$$holes who the world would be much better off without. Katt really did break the Internet and now I can't get enough of him!
"as a white dude" 🤣 "as a white guy" 🤣 your race doesnt validate or invalidate any opinion.
Just because youre black or white doesnt make something less true or more true, thats not how logic works "brotha" 🤣
Black people cant be caught calling out other black people because "racial solidarity"? 😋 You are crazy returd
Yes I feel the same way and thanks for the sincere comment!!!!
white people created the foundation of “no snitching”
it’s all over, fraternity hazing, the fucking “blue wall”
get real bruh
As another white guy, stop with the race prefacing before comments. All it tells us is that you value what shade of a carpet swatch you are
Yeah you being white really makes a difference
I bumped into Aba at a train station in Ottawa 2 yrs ago. He was such a gentleman and simply smiled and took the time to greet me even though he was reconnecting with his mom. He's a real one for this.
I think Aba has talked about this before in a previous video. How a fan met him right before he was meeting his mom.
Stop the 🧢
@@yingyang7448Yes, I’m pretty sure this is satire.
Stand-up comedy is performance art, it's literally a one-person play. People need to realize that even veteran comedians will spend an entire YEAR OR MORE crafting a 1 hour set. Countless written drafts, countless hours of them workshopping the jokes in smaller towns with smaller crowds, audio recording where they should pause or use a different word, video recording to see how they should move on stage, changing the order of jokes to be more cohesive, and that's on top of actually having to be funny and not repeating anything you've done before! It's an art no matter how you slice it or dice it, but for some wild reason, people don't take plagiarism of it as seriously as other forms of performance.
Could you imagine your favorite musician working for a whole year on an album, only for a completely different musician to lift that album, bar for bar and release it under their own name? It would cause an uproar. Musicians nobody has heard of have sued huge musicians for millions and won for a melody just being similar, or for sampling without clearance, but comedians are just supposed to sit down and take it when their stuff gets lifted. Katt told zero lies and I'm glad he finally got a platform to lay it all out. You notice how nobody he mentioned has responded calling him a liar...
Right.
Yup the music comment I believe the said Elvis did that, he stole the music and the dances
Cube called him a liar
When Kat Williams accused ludacris for joining the illuminati. You think he was lying. Because if he was being metaphorical he is also part of the illuminati. He's also heavily exxagerating in this interview. He made the jokes seemed like they were stolen word for word
@@burna21bit no he didn't
If people think Joke stealing ain’t a big deal, then why was Dane Cook blasted and shunned for years after he was at the height of comedy. He stole jokes too
Carlos Mencia did too
Dane cook, Amy Shumer, Carlos Mencia, all joke stealers, not cool
@@ghariiscooloh yes, that’s when Joe Rogan confronted him on stage.
@@KrimzunFlareCarlos Mensteala
@@ghariiscool Yea, I don’t think people realize how big of a deal it is, notably in the comedy sphere.
Carlos was at the height of his fame when that happened, but as soon as he was called out for joke theft, his career went down the toilet. From ragging on him in real life to the internet. Got so bad that I remember even comedians making jokes about him over it to audiences.
That man never recovered after that. No one ran defense for him, no one gave bullshit “parallel thinking” type of lame excuses. He got shamed and ridiculed for it and pushed out. That’s how it should be.
Way too many anymore want to give joke lifting a pass and it starts to make you wonder if these are the same types who ever so casually take from other creators in other areas of life to not see a big deal with it. I question anyone trying to justify this shit.
This is beautiful to watch and to expand on the thoughts, this is what so many Women and children have been subjected to in our community, the double victimisation of being told its Anti Black to seek justice for abuses because the perpetrator is a BM. Protecting predators in all realms has become synonymous with being Pro Black and it sucks big time.
Loved the receipts ❤️
Black men have also been equally subjected to this.
@@andrewrobertson1124 from other black men I know, not from woman and children. 🙄🙄
@@NaaSippingMocha No women are also capable of doing this, instead of stealing jokes they make a sham metoo case which is arguably more dangerous.
@@NaaSippingMocha Not the children, but some women also support and endorse this behavior its sad.
@@NaaSippingMocha I’m being serious when I ask this, but are you saying you know or know-of women and children who’ve been told it’s anti-black to tell the authorities when they’ve been physically harmed by black man? Like deadass?
I was posting my poetry on snapchat story to share with people and I had an old acquaintance from middle school who started to do the same thing. At first I wasn't really thinking about it until I noticed he copied word-for-word on a specific poem I wrote just an hour earlier. I messaged him about it and he was doubling down until I mentioned about going to court with that, which he stopped immediately and apologized. When you are creating art, you gotta own your work and step up when people start copying your flow, so I personally agree with y'all and Katt Williams. Keep up the great work yall 🎉🎉.
This happened to me on Facebook. I posted a status about drama. This one girl stole my status and posted it on her wall. I called her out in the comments. She messaged me privately and got the audacity to apologize after stealing my words and saying no disrespect. I called her out, and she blocked me afterward. And I'm sorry that happened to you.
Clout and attention is a hell of a drug for some people. They'll really do anything to get it, even at the expense of others. Sad really.
They do it to me all the time bro. Lame af.
You need to copyright everything you post. You can do that through US.gov if you're in the USA or even just to get a USA copyright.
Same in academia. My 2/3 of poc mentors talk the craziest to me. One of them, a black woman (just like me) wanted to prevent me from attending a writing group and decided to tell public safety and several profs I was a threat when I told her she was being unfair, and that I will attend. All the other advisors told me I was being confrontational by telling her that and no one but her friend was willing to call her out on it. I reported her for harassment and got the college investigator on it, but once I said the prof was black and female (like me), suddenly I couldn’t move forward with the case. This happened several time hen I told my law professor, fellowship director, and others. They know she was using racial epithets against me, but because she was a black woman too, it suddenly didn’t matter.
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Huh, this is such a stupid lie to comment. Go rest elsewhere.
You got the Uncle Tom label.
Political Correction can't tread on your minority status, so you get privilege points. Now you're a white person in value to their ideology.
It's sad era. Being Black or White doesn't matter to the people who think that's important. If you don't agree with them, you obviously aren't one of them.
It's completely childish.
Why didn't she want you to attend?
@@PardonMyPresenceYou goofs are always in denial
"Winners aren't allowed to let losers rewrite history."
Facts felt that one 💯💯💯
You are 100% right about hearing something in the past once and it sticking in your mind subconsciously, then using it years later thinking it was originally from your mind. That happens all the time
I like to think I am a pretty funny guy. So last year, I started doing open mics, just to see if I could make strangers laugh with a joke. And I was shocked how hard it is to come up with a premise, and craft a joke that not only has a punchline. but also has the right delivery, cadence, etc. So, I can totally understand why people would have issues with jokes being stolen.
True I’m the same I’ve started writing and performing music and feel the same.
Stand up format is a little stale tbh, a lot of it has been done thats why its so difficult as a new person starting. Which is also why podcasts are gaining a lot of popularity with comedians not because its a popular format right now but the way the situation is more free form helps alot with creativity.
This kind of confidence is what I need in life 👌
@@zoulzopanTill people cease to have the ability to laugh & all of life become boring & bland & we all live the exact same life, perceive all the same way, there will always be something new for comedians to talk about. Standing before an audience & talking isn't new but content/ info/ jokes delivered isn't always the same.
I'm not an artist,but I see it as stealing someone's art
That was one of THE BEST interviews I’ve ever watched. Had my undivided attention for almost 3 hours and that man had wisdom after wisdom to lay on the audience. And props to Shannon for letting the man speak so thoughtfully. Katt’s background is fascinating and explains a lot of why he is the way he is now.
the part about Kanye was just pure gem how he described it. Just gold and so much wisdom
The messed up part at 4:48 is not only was that featured in every comic view promo or commercial
But Cedric was the host of comicview at that time so he knew damn well about the joke so why would Cedric outright lie about not stealing that joke?
@@Chuck_EL I watched the interview Shannon did with Cedric. When the joke stealing got brought up, he was super vague, saying the timeline didn't match up and dismissed it as a lie. Then IMMEDIATELY went on to say that comedians are influenced by each other, so it's possible to steal a joke but that's not what happened in his case.....So what you're saying Ced, is that you stole it😂😂
Only one of them was gone off the yak, it was not KATT. 😂
@@Nikki_with_the_blikkiYup! None of these people responding are calling Katt a liar, they try to distract you by calling him “angry” or a “hater” or he’s on drugs, etc… but there have been stories about some of this stuff outside of Katt and where there’s smoke there’s usually fire. I heard about Steve hating on Bernie outside of Katt.
The whole interview was like a comedy show in itself 😂
It's funnier and more interesting than half the specials released in 2023
@@afreecanbomaye5283 I watched the whole thing on my day off yesterday I enjoyed it so much I didn't realise it was on for 3 hours
His best special yet 😂
Yea it was hilarious, but it also makes me question how honest he was at the expense of being funny. 🤷♂️
Right 😂
Totally loved how your partner let you explain this really complex theory to us without saying too much. Usually you guys are rowdy but he knew what you were saying was like taking us to school. Great partnership you guys have.
The crazy part about all this is that everyone came out with a response for katt. But nobody he’s talked about has yet to say he’s lying 😂
Can we talk about the fact that Katt's interview was almost as long as Avengers: Endgame, but still got over 22,000,000 views (and counting) in less than 48 hours?!
That's pretty damn impressive.
I guess it was time for the buzz.
The full interview was almost 3 hours, and Katt hit the ground running as he does with everything . From start to finish it was action.
Got it saved to my watch later!
I have to watch! I’ve always enjoyed Mr. Williams
Not only running but damn that man doesn't just state facts, it's the way he states them.
Glad people are backing Katt, he’s such an honest, hard working person.
one of France's biggest comedians (Gad Elmaleh) has built his whole career stealing jokes from Seinfeld and others yet he still has a career a lot of people know he steals yet he's still regarded as a great comic. people are just scared to come forward and calling him out. i really don't think it's a race thing some people just can't be touched .
Nah fam u missed the part where black ppl are dogging Kat for saying this because it was a black guy who stole kats joke. Black ppl have gotten so backwards here bro it's racist for black ppl to call out black ppl now😂
People like Katt, Dave, Ricky Gervais, Jaguar Wright all exposing Hollywood sick crap.
Jaguar is severely mentally ill. She may have 1 true thing that actually happened sprinkled into a 3 hour rant of delusions
Who tf is Jaguar Wright?
@@extremeking425why not look her up for yourself instead of ask 🥴🥴🥴
@@Kryssi13dude acting like a search bar don’t exist
@@yea8937😂💀
I'm glad as comedians you guys came out and showed this! Everyone's like 55+ getting mad at a man describing his own experience and calling him crazy and trust me kat has some of his own problems but he said no lie and it is just wild to see how people are coming over him. And I loved that he gave Bernie his roses too so no it's not he's crazy and bitter, the industry did Kat wrong!
Well it's bullshit. Katt wasn't even a thing untiled 2005. Kings of comedy started in the early 2000s and yes the nigga lie
The reason why all the old comedians is mad because he’s messing with their legacy and that is something that they cannot go back and rewrite they’ve been exposed so now all their materials and famous lines and sold out shows and jokes has now been question if they really wrote their own material or not it is a big ego blow
S/O to yall for giving Shannon props. So many ppl online giving him shit about his interviewing skills when it's not an interview it's just a conversation, and I like how the entire episode went ad well.
Katt Williams set the world on fire with that interview and confirmed how perverted Hollyweird is, I pray he stays well.
No they didn't most people don't even know about this interview
@@EmperorDxDif you live in a cave then sure.
@@autrythegood the video only have a million views do you know how little that is
@@EmperorDxDit has 16 million views
@@EmperorDxDThat's only a clip 😂, and all of them (a lot sir) are reaching that number, the real has 21 million views in the Shy Shy Club channel 😂😂😂😂.
They say “imitation is a form of flattery”, but not when someone does that for a living. Because it goes to show that they rather steal from someone else than make something themselves to where it gets accepted long enough that others do it. Glad Katt spoke up on this issue towards getting it the attention it deserves towards a potentially bigger issue at hand.
The real quote is," imitation is a form of flattery that mediocrity can produce"
Dave chappelle has stolen material from tommy sotomayor also
Glad to see this being called out too. The lack of adressing problems is neither healthy nor fixing problems. It's pure denial and continuing the cycle. Saying "but for the community" is more like a mass self/peer enforced manipulation tactic. Also keeping people in that cycle.
and also what is wrong.....
It’s called intellectual property so YES it is a very big deal… this is awful and I pray that all of this evilness will continue to be exposed!
Funny thing is none of the people responding really disputed what he said.
Kevin hearts response was weak AF 😂
All of the stuff katt said, WE ALL KNEW. We just needed it confirmed 😂
Facts!
It was news to me unfortunately
@@yomibase9763it’s good to see many of you guys now learning that every area of Hollywood is full of deceit. Heck even the gospel industry is a mess.
Katt was casually funny and entertaining the entire time even while telling the unfiltered truth. This interview is LEGENDARY!!!!
9:00 Aba is 100% right. The funny thing is, Cedric also stole a pop locking joke from this comedian named Scruncho and he used it in the Kings of Comedy, too!
I remember people literally told me I was lying about Cedric stealing Meshach Taylor's designing women joke @ 9:19 when it was literally showed on freaking tv smh
Rip Meschah Taylor
@@Chuck_EL I did not know about that. That’s super lazy of Cedric, but he got away with it. Maybe he took a calculated risk that not enough of his fans watched that show. Crazy.
@@Chuck_ELThat joke had me laughing hard and never knew he stole it smh
I am slowly getting addicted to this channel. I’m in my 50’s from a small town in Wales 🏴 and these two gentlemen give me hope and AB’s from laughter. It’s an amazing mixture of making light of heavy subjects. I am not good at expressing myself but I hope my admiration comes through.
I'm from a small town in Wales too
Place is dead isn't it?
Beautiful landscapes though and it's quiet
I'd love to visit Wales, cheers from Philly
@@noonyabeezniss4911 it depends on your definition of dead and alive lol. I've lived quite an interesting life and whole heartedly embrace the quiet life.
Smoke every weed every day, an eat a little magic mushrooms. You won't b bored anymore ❤
Hi to wales from london!
When you don't call out your community for what they are doing wrong, that is the real problem, that is what is holding your community back.
I am glad you guys spoke up as Katt did. People trying to ignore these lazy clowns stealing other people’s work. These so-called top-tier celebrities do it all the time. Sick!
This is 100% legit. There's alot of stealing of intellectual property in the world of arts and entertainment,more than the general public realise. There's quality non famous people within the industry doing good work and providing good content and but for a great break don't necessarily get the attention that they deserve. Yet someone higher up hears about what they're doing or something they've done that has a flash of brilliance and they steal it and bring it to a wider audience. I work in the arts world so I know this first hand myself. And to have your ideas taken and used by someone with more of an audience or someone you've networked or collabed with is tough,knowing they've taken a good thing and used it to make themselves look better and become better. Being a creative,entreprenuerial artist is a challenging world to be in. I've not heard of Katt Williams before but I applaud him and anyone who is willing to call out people who have made their fame and fortune off of the talent and ideas of others.
Most people will never fully grasp how much of their favorite media is just a blatant rip off of other people's ideas or products.
What's worse is when you can show someone, with proof, they still don't care and will actively defend their favorite artists. "They made it better, did it better, improved it..." blah blah
@@matthiasthulman4058 yes, that too and judge you harshly for standing up for defending your ideas and work. Even when faced with the facts they still want to believe that the more well known person has to be better at it because they're well known.
@@DivaClariceWilliams yeah i wouldn't defend it, i would feel disappointed if entertainment I enjoyed was plagarised.
@@MusMasi Sadly the general public haven't the same view because they're not as informed or even interested to look beyond the surfaceand be informed. It would certainly make me look differently too. I'd actually question how talented that person actually is.
Thanks for posting! I didn't know Steve and Cedric were joke thieves. Stealing jokes is something that never crossed my mind. I mean comedians have so much freedom to either tell a real life story or just make something up. Stealing jokes is pretty low. Especially if you didn't ask for permission to use it.
Exactly, its low hanging fruit.
I don't think Ced stole his joke a different premise and punch line. Steve stole those jokes same premise and punch line.
@@nikeshamorrow9444 nah he wouldn't have apologized to katt years ago if he hadn't stolen it. That's part of what had him so pissed about what ced said on club shay shay. He apologized to katts face then went on to lie in Shannon's.
Ced literally did the can I copy your homework meme.
@@NRG-REC , I saw two different jokes. Simore has a joke about driving a car, Kevin has a joke about driving a car. All the black comedians talk about the same stuff because they all have similar experiences. Kevin talked about your car breaking down and the radio being to loud. Ced talked about white people trying to get away from black people and never escaping. At no point did Ced space ship break down and he had to push it. Sometime you apologize just make peace if you believe or not.
Kevin is too lmao
I've always told my comedian friends to write their material down in a book format and even lyrical format. Have the joke written down in the proper format so you can copywrite the joke as literature or lyrical. You can have it in the form of a PDF, sell a single copy to yourself (or even free,) and now they can't steal it anymore without serious legal problems.
this is useful, thnks!
@@anabltc You're welcome.
Katts recorded video puts it into a format. So why can't he sue?
Cretive copyrights needs to meet a threshold or criteria. Simply writing it down doesn't make it enforceable by law.
@@AlenAbdula explain further
@@AlenAbdula So a comedy special is protected as a whole show, and the individual performance itself. So the words themselves are not protected, only the performance as presented in a filmed special.
Also, I didn't say just write it down. I said write it down in a format that has a proper protected copywrite. You still have to own the copywrite and go through the easy process to do it.
I own a publishing company with thousands of copywrites therein.
Wow, thank you for putting in the work to include the side by side receipts! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
You know what happens when you check each other and call stuff out? You become better as people. You get stronger and better because you do better, you don't want to get blasted and tossed out for being shitty to your own. That's what you want and it will only help the community.
Bingo !!! This just applies to life and people in general !
Accountability
It's also why the term "constructive criticism" exists. Not everything should be a 0-100 moment, people (should) still be able to take critiques and not attribute that to a personal attack or hate.
Kat Williams is one of the greatest comedians of all time!!! I went to one of his shows, and I never laughed so hard.
He doesn't get enough credit because he is not industry popular, and he exposes people! It's sad to witness that other popular mainstream comedians are stealing his material. How heartbreaking is that?
Katt didn’t sell his Soul like the big ones. They always put him down
He doesn't get credit because he doesn't play the game
He knows the system so well, he avoids the tricks like the plague
@@dbanks17To be a celeb you must sell your soul, he sold it.
The best thing about this interview is that young people will research Mark Curry and be pleasantly suprised. What a talent!!
Facts! Saw him live and he was amazingly funny!
That concept you talked about of accidently stealing a joke is a phenomenon called "cryptomnesia". It's when you come up with an idea that you believe is your own original idea but is actually something that you experienced at one point and forgot hearing or seeing.
Back in the mid-90s, I used to hang out at the Miami Improv, and I told someone that I was friendly with and worked there that I like Carlos Mencia. He began to tell me how he would steal jokes from other comedians. I stop supporting Carlos Mencia after that. As a Latina woman, I can care less about protecting a stealing Latino man. It's about supporting whats right.
It's called mental manipulation, and as a black person, I can say without a doubt that we can be easily manipulated through entertainment and fear. I am so saddened by the younger generations' ignorance of this. Major companies, three letter agencies, etc. have figured this out YEARs ago. Colleges even do this. They use students' creative juices to forward to big companies and governments. (Colleges get grants for great profitable student ideas)
You’re 100% right. Honesty and creativity go out the door when people are trying to claw their way to the top
oligarchs like Bill Gates call it "innovation".
And magic. You guys love it.
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You can look up the Milgram Experiment on betraying your own morality when a person of perceived authority compels you to do evil.
The Stanford Prison Experiment was about how the students given the guard role learned to oppress their fellow peers who played the prisoner role, with Learned Helplessness being a byproduct of prolonged physical and mental affliction.
I'm glad you touched on situations where similar or same jokes can come from different people without anyone stealing and focusing your point on people actually stealing jokes. You guys have always been good and premtively addressing topics that some viewers may end of conflating makingit clear that there is always nuance but then there are people who know exactly what their doing.
Been so long since I seen a Ab and Preach video glad this is the one that got me back
I’ve heard about more good things Kat Williams has done for random people and comedians than most other comedians or actors. And the news doesn’t come from him. It comes from the people he has helped.
It's sweet he never confirmed or denied. He did stuff quietly
There was a scandal like this with French comedians too. Some years ago an unknown person exposed them and showed they stole lots of jokes from American artists. Back then TH-cam wasn’t as big and we didn’t know that much about US comedians, we have been *fooled*
I didn’t know. Do you have some names ? Merci
@@carinebelle4356for some reason my reply keeps on vanishing but yeah it was Gad Elmaleh among others. Search for copy comics
A lot of people don't understand how serious it is to be stealing a comedians jokes. Those same people would never get infront of a crowd and try telling their own jokes. They cant even fathom how difficult that really is.
No one can do Katt's comedy. Katt's a GOAT in his own right. Even seasoned comedians taking his stuff can't do it nearly as well as Katt does. Katt is just plain funny.
This is one of the most important discussions we're currently having in comedy, music, and a few other fields. I'm glad you mentioned the fact that sometimes people come up with remarkably similar ideas completely separately, with no thievery or even inspiration between them. There's a big difference between thievery and inspiration, anyway, and anyone who slips up and recycles something without realizing it would be more than ready to own up to it if it gets called out. It's the people who are stealing who get elusive, confrontational, or otherwise suspicious in their behavior. "I don't even wanna sound like someone" is a good sentiment to live by, in my opinion.
Its one thing to steal a joke/art....
But to STEAL IT AND MAKE IT CORNIER , producing a weaker version, thats nasty work.
This just made me realize how easy it is for a high profile comedian to steal jokes. Unlike music, jokes aren't protected by a label. Comedians should start forming comedy labels to get their material patented. That Dave Chapelle bit made me think what if he actually saw Aba's set and he knew that, what due process would Aba even follow?
This shit is a tale as old as time. Robin Williams would walk up to comics with a check and just tell them "I'm taking that joke. Here's your compensation" and that was just it. It was his joke. Shit like that has been happening forever.
I wonder can this actually happen. Seems like a good idea
buying something is not the same as stealing though.@@FlarkusChunswen
Source: Trust me, bro.
@thundabearz5092
Even SNL is notorious for how often people behind the scenes are willing to steal from each other. Especially from new writers who have no power
People are tired of lies. We want the truth❤ and I am happy to see things come to light whether in Hollywood or in my community. I feel more people are on Katts side. Grace of God and pure goodness of the heart will always prevail
Steve Harvey being a joke thief might be the funniest thing he's ever done
Regardless of what some think, Katt is UNDENIABLY a Legend in the comedy game and a master at being entertaining. The interview was a pleasant surprise! 🙌🏽
100% - and his bits we saw, that were stolen, were way funnier the way he performed them.
Idk getting your ass whooped by a 12 year old damages that a little
Robin Williams used to steal jokes all the time, he didn't really steal them on purpose, according to him, but he would see them once in a club and when he mouth was going a mile minute like he did he might reach back and pull a premise out not remembering that he'd heard it elsewhere. But the difference with Williams is when confronted by the original comedians he would say that it was possible he did and cut them a check for what is reported to be $10,000. I don't think that absolves him but it buys a lot of peace.
Look at Amy Schumer, Ive seen countless videos over the years, were when she was coming up, aside from screwing her way to success she got caught over and over stealing from actual comedians. As far as Kat, I still remember the 1st time I saw him, I was in a juvenile center, not juvie, it was like a long term program, in between that and jail, and 1 of our staff brought in his new dvd and youve never seen 30 teens spending an hour just dying the whole time. It was incredible!
I'm glad he said that about the black community, as I get older, I get more annoyed, we get more offended about the black people that call out the dumb shit we do, and we get labeled the bad ones. I could tell, the way Kat spoke, nothing that dude said he thought was a lie. He had conviction.
8:54 guys,I’m 56 and Eddie Murphy raw hit home and hard because I was a brother from another mother. Crazy family,abuse,alcohol,suicides and most abuses that a human can self inflict… I laughed as I cried and remembered every word. He helped me realize something church never did,at that time,he let me know that I wasn’t alone. God chooses his own jesters and Eddie’s on the list and nobody can take him off,not even himself with stupidity,🤷♂️ Never apologize Eddie,never apologize for telling truth and making people think and feel.
The entire role of a community is to prevent unjustice, not protect its perpetuation.
YUP
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I was waiting for you guys to cover this too! 😅
Katt has called them out years before this. Seems his passes have been exhausted and just said "F*ck it" and let it rip.
Beyond him wanting to air out grievances, the underlying message to me was to let truth have its place. It's not about fighting each other. If we can admit that there were lies peddled, then we can also clear the air and get back to working together if we think we can/want to.
To succeed doesn't require that we f*ck somebody over.
ofc they would cover it, what other option do they have? Produce something on their own accord? CRAZY RIGHT???
@@DrSoapp 😅
I love the quote “lies go around the world by the time truth puts on its pants”, but I would add “but once truth arrives, everyone knows”.
What’s funny is that the internet is like that nosy neighbor that peeped the husband or wife cheating. You might have been able to get away with it for years, but once she moved in, you can’t anymore. Some of these big time “comedians” have probably been doing this for decades, and now the dirty laundry is getting aired out.
I'd love to agree, but i think everyone used to know the truth... back in the day. Nowadays, 🙄😮💨 folks will believe anything
Unfortunately there are too many lies people are blindly believing anymore and I think that has always been true. It makes me wonder just how much we know of history and the people who took part in it are actually true and how much has been lies told to smear the innocent and defend the guilty.
Gotta respect the work it took to find evidence
I'm overjoyed bruv that you guys are telling not just the truth, but directly to black people. We need to hear this and we need to continue to expose the horrible people.
It's not limited nor relevant to Divine Black People Only.
Weak-minded manipulative corrupt beings Are in need to be held accountable by All particularly by those who are
Real Ones Respectful and with Mindful Mindset.
One LOVE To All The Real Ones Everywhere 💚➖🌐➖💚
"Horrible people" lol calm down, uts really not that serious.
@@mjstinson8225 you’re not technically wrong, but my “divine black people” continue to give passes to garbage because “you can’t call out blacks in front of others”. No, you are doing garbage, I’m calling you out.
@a.mp.m7340 bro its people like you as to why all these hacks are where there not supposed to be. "It's not that serious." If it ain't that serious why the fuck you comment?
@@a.mp.m7340 a bunch of a$$hole celebrity comedians, "truth"
last bit is so true people will always say some dumb shit about a situation / topic until it happens to them
17:25 Preach was preaching here. Definitely applies to family, friends / clicks, coworkers, etc.... its like u are forced to take it and suffer in silence.
Crazy to realize its easier for them to steal someone's ideas than it is to accuse them of stealing someone's ideas.
Wow, I didn’t know they blatantly stole jokes like that… damn near word for word. Salute to you guys for showing the comparisons to back up what Katt was saying. Love the way you guys really break down, analyze, and explain the scenarios of each of yalls videos
as a white guy, I don't view black people exposing other black people as bad, bitter, jealous, angry or anything, in fact it's the opposite, I respect people that call out the bullshit and not hide it just cause they are scared or are afraid to be seen as what you described, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong, nothing to do with skin color, fame or nothing