Very informative... we just start cutting 5 inch vinyl records and been learning how to master the sound quality before cutting. This video was very helpful. We have a better understanding during our process
Great video, thanks! If I understand this correctly, low level compression could be easily done with a multipressor that bypasses higher frequency sections, but what would be a good cut-off frequency for the lower levels ?
@@sageaudio Thanks for the reply; yeah, but higher amplitudes in the lower frequency regions. No? Hence, you could make up this with a multipresser below let's say 300Hz. I might understand something wrong here.
Do you have any other recommendations for low level compressor plug ins? And are you able to elaborate a little more on what exactly low level compression is!
Hey just a question about a piece of hardware in the intro at 0:45. The one with the multi coloured knobs. I picked one up for 75$ at a garage sale and found it rather noisy. Do you have any thoughts on it? (i hope mine isn't a complete knock off)
Hey Le Gougnafié! -14 LUFS to -10 LUFS will work, but it depends on the genre! Jazz and classical should be quieter and more dynamic, pop and rock should be louder and less dynamic. SageAudio.com
NOW this is usefull since i'm starting to master for vinyl (wich is hard to get exactly right with enough loudness) but thank you so much for the video!
I'm surprised no one has replied. I'm not an expert, but -14 to -15 lufs is a good start depending on how dynamic you want to keep the sound, maybe -16 is the song itself is already "loud" or very full-sounding. At the very least 9db of dynamic range, but 11-12 is better, or even more depending on the track. True peaks can get close to -1db without distorting, bit's safer to peak around -2db or a little lower. Look up some albums you think have great vinyl mastering on the DR Loudness War site, and use those as a general guideline.
thanks a lot for this video ... it's my first vinyl master i'd like to know how much LUFS can it support ? i generally master around 9 / 8 Lufs sometimes 7 when the client want it that loud ... but i guess that is too loud for vinyl ? thanks in advance
Hey Vincent! It'll depend on a few factors. Typically, a little more compression is better for vinyl, and a louder master would support this. But, incredibly loud high frequencies will cause distortion, especially toward the inside of the record. That said, it's best to master the track a little quieter than normal, but with slightly more compression, like you'd have with a louder master. I hope this helps! SageAudio.com
Informative. I checked the blog out looking for additional info and most it makes sense. However (as in point 8) in the event with a rock/metal album if the high frequency is constant through out, is it a general practice to automate the EQ gradually the upper Hi-mids+ as each songs progresses in order to maintain consistancy. Many engineers are not album to check their mix in this instance. I hope my question makes sense.
Hey Louderthangod! Thanks for watching! Just about, although most digital recordings have a truncated frequency response when compared to vinyl. SageAudio.com
Very informative... we just start cutting 5 inch vinyl records and been learning how to master the sound quality before cutting. This video was very helpful. We have a better understanding during our process
Hey Ethic Radio Archive Reels! That's awesome! Great to hear that it's helpful!
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I'm sorry. 5" records? Do you mean 7"?
Great video, thanks! If I understand this correctly, low level compression could be easily done with a multipressor that bypasses higher frequency sections, but what would be a good cut-off frequency for the lower levels ?
Thanks for watching Mike! Low-level compression isn't frequency specific but amplitude specific.
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@@sageaudio Thanks for the reply; yeah, but higher amplitudes in the lower frequency regions. No? Hence, you could make up this with a multipresser below let's say 300Hz. I might understand something wrong here.
Low level compression is more like a negative ratio compressor, since what you describe is a multiband compressor
Do you have any other recommendations for low level compressor plug ins? And are you able to elaborate a little more on what exactly low level compression is!
Thanks for watching! Boost is great. Also maximizers like Weiss MM-1 are a really good option.
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Hey just a question about a piece of hardware in the intro at 0:45. The one with the multi coloured knobs. I picked one up for 75$ at a garage sale and found it rather noisy. Do you have any thoughts on it? (i hope mine isn't a complete knock off)
Hey Circle A Studios! Let me ask the head engineer Steve and get back to you!
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Hey ! Thx for the video ! What Volume could we reach (LuFS) to the maximum for a vinyl master ?
Hey Le Gougnafié! -14 LUFS to -10 LUFS will work, but it depends on the genre! Jazz and classical should be quieter and more dynamic, pop and rock should be louder and less dynamic.
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@@sageaudio Thanks a lot for your answer ! :)
NOW this is usefull since i'm starting to master for vinyl (wich is hard to get exactly right with enough loudness) but thank you so much for the video!
what should the lufs and true peak value be for a vinyl master?
I'm surprised no one has replied. I'm not an expert, but -14 to -15 lufs is a good start depending on how dynamic you want to keep the sound, maybe -16 is the song itself is already "loud" or very full-sounding. At the very least 9db of dynamic range, but 11-12 is better, or even more depending on the track. True peaks can get close to -1db without distorting, bit's safer to peak around -2db or a little lower. Look up some albums you think have great vinyl mastering on the DR Loudness War site, and use those as a general guideline.
thanks a lot for this video ... it's my first vinyl master i'd like to know how much LUFS can it support ? i generally master around 9 / 8 Lufs sometimes 7 when the client want it that loud ... but i guess that is too loud for vinyl ? thanks in advance
Hey Vincent! It'll depend on a few factors. Typically, a little more compression is better for vinyl, and a louder master would support this. But, incredibly loud high frequencies will cause distortion, especially toward the inside of the record.
That said, it's best to master the track a little quieter than normal, but with slightly more compression, like you'd have with a louder master. I hope this helps!
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Sage Audio thanks !
Informative. I checked the blog out looking for additional info and most it makes sense. However (as in point 8) in the event with a rock/metal album if the high frequency is constant through out, is it a general practice to automate the EQ gradually the upper Hi-mids+ as each songs progresses in order to maintain consistancy. Many engineers are not album to check their mix in this instance.
I hope my question makes sense.
Thank you!
Good tips!
Hi sage audio! Do you attenuate the sibilance in stereo or only in the mid?
Thanks for watching! Typically just in the mid!
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Don’t understand the low amount of views, super video!
Hey Jack! Thanks for watching - glad that you like the video!
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Probably because almost nobody masters for a vinyl release anymore. Makes sense, in my opinion. But you're right, great video!
Mr Coatsworth yes indeed, and it’s no cat video either ofcourse....😀
what software are you using to make the master?
When mastering for clients we use analog hardware, for these videos we use Logic Pro X!
Thanks for watching!
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nice! Thanks!
THIS IS GREAT INFO.
So cool man :o, there is so many different things to apply depending on what the end media format is for the music!
Hey thanks for the comment! There's definitely a lot to think about here.
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whats the point of pressing vinyl from a digital source
Consistency! Thanks for watching!
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@@sageaudio ?? I dont understand
Band records in DAW. Band wants to release Vinyl. Really that simple.
Basically we’ve finally reached the point where digital can outperform vinyl now.
Hey Louderthangod! Thanks for watching! Just about, although most digital recordings have a truncated frequency response when compared to vinyl.
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For the God sake! Don´t use Crossley sh*t record players and do not master your records thinking on that crap!