I understand the knowledge based thought on camo but here's the huge issue with that, they don't do a very good job of explaining how camo works, just about everyone I talk to doesn't know or isn't sure how it works, that's a problem
So I’ve checked all my tanks that I primarily use and know exact stats by memory and none of them have changed at all. They’re identical. I’m not defending them at all, I’ve seen shadow nerfs for sure myself. But nothing as major as said here. However, I would agree with a slight camo nerf. It’s not logical for tanks the size of a small building like the Death Star to have such insane camo values. So I’m all for it. In general, I think it should be back to old school, where heavy tanks have worst camo, TDs had slightly better depending on size, Mediums had mid road camo and lights where better than anything else. With exceptions to all those of course, but still. There are definite discrepancies in the way camo works right now, Murat being a great example having far better camo than some tanks that are smaller sized than it. Makes no sense. And also, remember when they said the progression was supposed to be simpler and easier to choose modules you want to research first? Whatever happened to that. Try playing a Tier 8 tank with a stock 240 alpha gun with 160 pen. Like what the hell. And the top gun is the very last thing you usually research in the upgrades. It’s an absolute joke.
@@superstraight2667 it’s always been like that with Wargaming. Maybe it started in first days as a fun little tank game project, then it quickly turned into a cash sucking machine and has never changed. That’s the Russian way of doing things. Always has been always will be
Get this through your head and understanding because this is a fact and truth of this game: Size and Class don't always equate camo value, in many instances WG adjusts camo value to the role and play style that the tank is intended for. And also to balance strengths/weaknesses such as armor. Size is usually a major factor yes, but 100%, not always. ....The More You Know.........
@@xfiazc07 kid I know it better than you. But the discrepancies in those value are far too great and make no sense in a lot of instances. Get this through your head: stop being a pretty little wallet and start using your brain instead of going straight through it.
@@gavriushka Kid, huh ? I seem like a kid, eh ? Ok, Chief. What makes you think that you know better than I, and what makes you think I've spent much money on this game ? How long have you been around WoTs ?
I just left the game... I didn't notice anything really different. Tanks in my sights disappeared as they always did. But with just another 'nerf,' maybe it's time to just go find a new game... Anyone want to buy some tanks!? "Cheap!" You see them disappearing too, right there in your own match
Relax. There was no nerf, it was mostly likely just a display issue, they're all back to normal from what I can see. Clone put out yet another video without getting his facts straight.
Believe I played against you this last weekend. You were in a platoon of 3 E25s and I was in a CDC Black. I knew we were in trouble when I saw the platoon of E25s, but when I looked at the post game results and saw who made up the platoon I had to laugh. I was surprised we lasted that long 😊 GG
It's because , when you do really well, some power players that buyeverything get upset when you hide and blast them. 🐂💩 Wargames doesn't care But press them.
I agree with the statement, “This game should be knowledge based.” But, I don’t think WG agrees. In fact, I would dare say they think the game is knowledge based, but in reality isn’t.
Fr real I was thinking the same thing every video > people should only use the big map to view the whole strategic picture. u should be watching the whole map at all times > for those who can't see what's around them with it open need to get glasses.
Question. After a long break from the game, I've been playing tiers 8-10 and I'm not seeing Prok on the map rotation. Has the map been removed, maybe tier limited or just bad luck?
I know this is a stupid question..but is it. Better when the number is higher or lower..and I know people are going to be like this guy is crazy..but it things like that player need to know to make the games/setups on there tanks better
Camo equipment is powerful for tank destroyers they get the largest flat bonus at 59.5M. Lights and Mediums get significantly less at 39.5M. Heavies and Arty get a small bonus at 19.75M. The TD bonus should probably be reduced to the same as lights and mediums 39.5M, if the equipment will remain the same and not go back to only giving a bonus while still.
You said the same thing on discord. You say and feel this way because you don't play a majority of high camo value TD tanks. Your proposal would ruin the game for tanks that rely on stealth to survive.
Wow more secret tweaks and adjustments that we don’t need like the silver nerfs. This company wouldn’t be what hey are if it wasn’t for the player base and how to they treat us? With crap like this. I’m literally on the fence with being done with this game if this is the stuff that’s happening.
Most likely a display issue. >>All the camo is back to normal for the time being.
Oh man, you are the Claus Kellerman of WOT console:)
I understand the knowledge based thought on camo but here's the huge issue with that, they don't do a very good job of explaining how camo works, just about everyone I talk to doesn't know or isn't sure how it works, that's a problem
So I’ve checked all my tanks that I primarily use and know exact stats by memory and none of them have changed at all. They’re identical. I’m not defending them at all, I’ve seen shadow nerfs for sure myself. But nothing as major as said here. However, I would agree with a slight camo nerf. It’s not logical for tanks the size of a small building like the Death Star to have such insane camo values. So I’m all for it. In general, I think it should be back to old school, where heavy tanks have worst camo, TDs had slightly better depending on size, Mediums had mid road camo and lights where better than anything else. With exceptions to all those of course, but still. There are definite discrepancies in the way camo works right now, Murat being a great example having far better camo than some tanks that are smaller sized than it. Makes no sense. And also, remember when they said the progression was supposed to be simpler and easier to choose modules you want to research first? Whatever happened to that. Try playing a Tier 8 tank with a stock 240 alpha gun with 160 pen. Like what the hell. And the top gun is the very last thing you usually research in the upgrades. It’s an absolute joke.
classic example of the devs that don't play their own game
@@superstraight2667 it’s always been like that with Wargaming. Maybe it started in first days as a fun little tank game project, then it quickly turned into a cash sucking machine and has never changed. That’s the Russian way of doing things. Always has been always will be
Get this through your head and understanding because this is a fact and truth of this game: Size and Class don't always equate camo value, in many instances WG adjusts camo value to the role and play style that the tank is intended for. And also to balance strengths/weaknesses such as armor. Size is usually a major factor yes, but 100%, not always. ....The More You Know.........
@@xfiazc07 kid I know it better than you. But the discrepancies in those value are far too great and make no sense in a lot of instances. Get this through your head: stop being a pretty little wallet and start using your brain instead of going straight through it.
@@gavriushka Kid, huh ? I seem like a kid, eh ? Ok, Chief. What makes you think that you know better than I, and what makes you think I've spent much money on this game ? How long have you been around WoTs ?
I just left the game... I didn't notice anything really different.
Tanks in my sights disappeared as they always did.
But with just another 'nerf,' maybe it's time to just go find a new game...
Anyone want to buy some tanks!? "Cheap!"
You see them disappearing too, right there in your own match
Relax. There was no nerf, it was mostly likely just a display issue, they're all back to normal from what I can see. Clone put out yet another video without getting his facts straight.
pc too
A few years ago they nerfed 340 tanks without telling us first so why wouldn't they nerf all without telling us. They need to stop nerfing.
Believe I played against you this last weekend. You were in a platoon of 3 E25s and I was in a CDC Black. I knew we were in trouble when I saw the platoon of E25s, but when I looked at the post game results and saw who made up the platoon I had to laugh. I was surprised we lasted that long 😊 GG
And you killed 2 of us. GG
True vision solves everything your camo work until the enemy tanks aim down scope
It's because , when you do really well, some power players that buyeverything get upset when you hide and blast them.
🐂💩
Wargames doesn't care
But press them.
I agree with the statement, “This game should be knowledge based.” But, I don’t think WG agrees. In fact, I would dare say they think the game is knowledge based, but in reality isn’t.
If only they understood their own mechanics
Is there a reason why you are using the small mini map ?
To see the immediate area around the tank , square map is only a button push away if needed 😅
Yea, because he likes it and it works. Geezus, every $%#@ video!
Fr real I was thinking the same thing every video > people should only use the big map to view the whole strategic picture. u should be watching the whole map at all times > for those who can't see what's around them with it open need to get glasses.
Question. After a long break from the game, I've been playing tiers 8-10 and I'm not seeing Prok on the map rotation. Has the map been removed, maybe tier limited or just bad luck?
My guess would be most likely bad luck. Lifting a cold one to you hoping you get the map you are looking for soon.
I haven’t seen prokhorovka in far too long. I miss the old maps.
Wargaming already said that they will rebalance the skills (-system) and setup at the end of this year.🤔
I finally found your channel again and im ecstatic
There is no trust.👎
What server you play on?
NA
Just looking through my garage and everything seems fine.
They returned everything to normal. It seems they realized they messed up
I know this is a stupid question..but is it. Better when the number is higher or lower..and I know people are going to be like this guy is crazy..but it things like that player need to know to make the games/setups on there tanks better
Camo rating is better when higher, but detectability range is better when lower
I played that waf e100 tank last night getting spotted by tanks that i should've out spotted with a full camo crew
You outspot no one in that tank lol probably was me 100m from you in a light in a bush not moving
Camo equipment is powerful for tank destroyers they get the largest flat bonus at 59.5M. Lights and Mediums get significantly less at 39.5M. Heavies and Arty get a small bonus at 19.75M. The TD bonus should probably be reduced to the same as lights and mediums 39.5M, if the equipment will remain the same and not go back to only giving a bonus while still.
You said the same thing on discord. You say and feel this way because you don't play a majority of high camo value TD tanks. Your proposal would ruin the game for tanks that rely on stealth to survive.
They don’t nerf premiums
My tanks still seem fine
Seeing wt i want you to compare it to foch, just ur opinion in a video maybe😊
Love the video . I also love when your wife chimes in on your videos
I thinks its crap,
and it should be fixed
hm it might finally be worth playing huh.. a tank shouldnt just be invisible, it is the dumbest system ever..
Sorry but my bmp 2 has better camo now it has 171 now its 151
Wow more secret tweaks and adjustments that we don’t need like the silver nerfs. This company wouldn’t be what hey are if it wasn’t for the player base and how to they treat us? With crap like this. I’m literally on the fence with being done with this game if this is the stuff that’s happening.
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No it literally wasn't lol jesus christ this guy
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Elc even also nerfed on pc?
Just console. Sorry for any confusion