@Amit Prabhu Then your taste is just utter shit. You clearly don't even know who Dumbledore truly is if you actually think Micheal Gabmon did a better than Richard Harris.
@Amit Prabhu Dumbledore is supposed to be mostly a calm, old wizard. Richard Harris... this amazing man even had a voice that is *exactly* how J.K Rowling imagined Dumbledore's voice to be. Also, Richard Harris was quite capable of showing Dumbledore's "powerful" side. Look at how he bellows "SIIILENCE" in the Philosopher's Stone. Yes, Richard Harris was the man. Also, Richard Harris would've made Dumbledore's death much more depressing. Michael Gabmon however, he just ruined Dumbledore. He was so rubbish at acting anything like Dumbledore. Hell, Micheal Gabmon didn't even have much of an idea about Dumbledore's character. Partly because he didn't read the books. Michael Gabmon would be more fitting for Gandalf. Most of the Harry Potter cast were "bloody brilliant". But Micheal Gabmon just didn't cut it for most fans.
@Amit Prabhu And how am I mentally retarded? I read the books. Yes, I did. And Dumbledore is mostly a calm old man. Ask literally any Harry Potter fan, let alone J.K Rowling. Now Dumbledore doesn't have that much "action" scenes in the first two Harry Potter films, which is why Richard Harris remains calm. But Richard Harris had proven that he can be energetic sometimes, as shown in the scene of the Halloween feast in the Philosopher's Stone. So he could very well easily be an aggrivated Dumbledore when necessary. But in the books, even at dark times, Dumbledore is still mostly calm. Yes, he is. Even at the end of the Order of the Phoenix, when a lot of shit has just gone down, Dumbledore is still a calm old man in the books. So I don't know where you got the idea that Dumbledore is more aggrivated. You're the one who doesn't know shit. Your other reply somewhere else in this comment section just proves that you're truly the one who has a brain of a toddler. And you need fucking help!
To those people who think Richard Harris wouldn't be capable of showing Dumbledore's "powerful" side: Remember in the Philosopher's Stone? The way Richard Harris as Dumbledore bellowed "SIIILENCE!" It was perfect. I can definitely imagine Richard Harris doing very well as Dumbledore in the later Harry Potter films.
Harris also played a belligerent version of Richard the Lionheart in Robin and Marian. That'd be one example of what an angry Dumbledore would be like.
BOOK 1 CH 1: "His blue eyes were light, bright and sparkling behind half-moon spectacles and his nose was very long and crooked, as though it had been broken at least twice." THIS IS DUMBLEDORE. Gentle and thoughtful on the surface, but brilliant, clever, and perceptive underneath. He never yelled in the books. He didn't have to. Just his presence with his soul piercing eyes were enough to silence a room.
But in all seriousness... both actors have their defects. Dumbledore is an immensely complex character - probably the most in the whole book. He is a bad ass fighter, a shrewd manipulator, but also cultivates a cutie pie grandpa persona (which may be partly put on, but only partly. I mean, he really does love sherbert lemons and making zany inappropriate comments at odd moments). His true personality hadn't been revealed in the first books so we have no idea how Richard harris would have gone on to portray him in the future. Gambon has his merits but I just don't think he was subtle enough. Yes, plenty of people were afraid of Dumbledore, but it wasn't because he went around shouting and slamming doors.
You mean Harris isn't as pompous? The best issue raised I read on another site was that they would have a hard time imagining Harris locked in battle. because he's too old but I don't know what they are referring too. Besides if special effects and imaginative directing can make Steven Segal seem like he's still a fit martial arts master why couldn't they have done the same for Harris. Its fiction its not like there is "magic" so Harris could be written to be able to do anything, they would just have to draft the effects. I'm okay with either.
That's not the point its an academic issue of who was the better Dumbydork. The argument I mentioned is pure "what if" Harris had lived a couple of more years would he have been able to play a more physical role if he was alive. My point is you can take an almost dead actor and make him look good with special effects. Or make an over the hill to fat to move martial artists look good by framing the shots so the enemy dudes are doing all the action. If Harris had been alive for another episode or two they could have made him look up to the part. But in all fairness I did not know where the guy who brought it up was getting his idea from. I don't remember the other DD did much requiring a physical role. Its an interesting question because Stalone canceled Rambo 5 because he got more attention doing the Creed movie without a lot of physical prep and Rambo would take a lot of physical prep but because he does the part.
Harris plays a true powerful wizard, a calm leader with confidence for others. He shows wisdom. Gambon was over dramatic and hyper. He did succeed in the role and did not fail. I do, however feel that Harris was the better of the two.
Nah. Even in the later books, to me Dumbledore was still the embodiment of calm and and wisdom, regardless of the seriousness of the situations they were in. Harris wasn't able to show how he would portray a serious Dumbledore but I think he would've killed it. As Dan L rightly said Gambon was way too over dramatic and hyper and with that he lost this aura of wisdom and silent power that would've made me truly believe that he was the only wizard that Voldemort feared.
thedjb300 it's a fact that Richard Harris would've killed it. Just imagine him in those scenes. HBP, GOF, OoTP. Jesus he would've Harry Potter 10x better. Gambon looks like a homeless man with a snoopy hat. Pathetic performance from him. I didn't give 2 shits when he died. If Richard Harris were playing him I KNOW for a fact I would've cried.
Why do people think Harris wouldn't be capable of filming as the story got darker? It is a stupid assumption, Dumbledore never really lost his cool in the books, except during the cave potion. Also, Dumbledore didn't need to be an athlete to duel. They didn't make justice with that battle in Order of the Phoenix, the battle in the book was way better and detailed. Even Harry and his friends had a more interesting adventure in the Ministry in the books than in the film version.
@@paolopauletto9799 um actually he kinda did. Dumbledore is often described as looking old but moving around like a young man. Gambon managed to capture that element better
The first part with that soundtrack and Richard Harris makes me so emotional. I will always remember you, Richard Harris, what a great performance he made, the real Dumbledore, an amazing actor.
Yes Michael Gambon was terrible. He even said in a interview that he just reads his lines and thats it. No thought or anything behind them. Where as, when I see Harris version of Dumbledore, you can see the pain in his eyes. You can see that he holds many secrets and there is a lot he is not telling harry. Every word is controlled and thought out, Gambon turns Dumbledore into a street hippy who is flying by the seat of his pants. I laugh whenever I see Dumbledore throttle Harry in goblet of fire. Because I think of one of my favourite scenes from order of the phoenix (the book) that wasnt in the film. Where after the batltle in the department of mysteries. Harry freaks out and starts smashing alot of dumbledores posessions. and dumbledore says "by all means, destroy my posessions, but I must warn you, I have many". When I think of how Gambon would have played this scene, he probably would have thrown harry across the room or knocked him out.
In the book scene you mentioned from "The Order of the Phoenix," the quote from Dumbledore is, "By all means, continue destroying my possessions. I daresay I have too many." And the remarkable thing is that it's Prof. Dumbledore's implacable serenity that actually sets Harry off in the first place. Harry snaps when Dumbledore calmly tells him he understands how he's feeling, because judging by his serene demeanor, Harry is sure he can't possibly understand the agony of guilt he's suffering. No wonder they never put that scene in the film, after having portrayed Dumbledore like little more than a stressed and freaked-out parent in the GOF, virtually the antithesis of his actual character.
HopeUnquenchable very well put!. The thing is Dumbledore as the head of Hogwarts has to be switched on and alert, he carries his cards close to his vest. Sure his has doubts, he had many when it came to his plan of leaving Harry with the Dursleys in hopes that Harry grow up normal instead of spoilt and famous all his life, but he doesn't doubt or go off the rails that bad!. In my mind if THIS Dumbledore run hogwarts, the school would be closed LONG AGO. He is so agitated and paranoid he would just be a loose canon. If any student got in to a fight this dumbledore would be more likely to punch the kid in the head.
" In discussing his portrayal of Dumbledore in the Harry Potter film series, Gambon has given detailed accounts. Particularly, he was quoted as saying that when portraying Dumbledore, he does not necessarily "have to play anyone". He further states, "I just stick on a beard and play me, so it's no great feat. I never ease into a role - every part I play is just a variant of my own personality. I’m not really a character actor at all." This suggests that Gambon chooses to act his performance based on his own intuitive interpretations of how a character would respond to certain situations. In short, Gambon has not deliberately aimed to follow the specific characteristics of Dumbledore, as referenced in the books, but rather developed an acting style in which he combines his own personality with that of his character." I pulled this from an interview with Gambon I think he was an amazing Dumbledore
Richard Harris was brilliant, you could tell he cared about the part, took his time with it and researched the role between himself and Harry.. Whenever you watch the scenes between Harris's Dumbledore and Harry, you can tell they have that father/mentor relationship as described in the books. While Michael Gambon is a great physical Dumbledore, I really never got that special bond the two characters had, and every time I watched him, even the scenes where he wasn't, it always felt like he was angry at Harry. It's a shame Richard Harris had to leave us so early, 1 & 2 will always be my favorites.
@Amit Prabhu I didn't use "all caps". I was just mimicking the way you said "NOT". As for my username, that's none of your bloody business. Also, your comments right here just prove that you're a total 5 year old. "Gay, fat ass hippo". Get a grip. Grow the fuck up.
I like Gambon more than Harris because I think Harris made Dumbledore look boring and a weak wizard. Gambon on the otherhand, made him look powerful and full of emotions from his past.
@@aishahezreen5253 I've read them yes, or rather listened to audio books xd. But It's just my preference, hearing about Dumbledore in the books, made me think of him as ''weaker''. Idk, sounds wierd. But anyways, I just like Gambon better as Dumbledore, eventhough he may not potray how the character actually was
But my favorite is Richard Harris. He was sweet, kind, gentle, and loving. On the other hand Micheal Gambon was a complete badass. He brought a completely new side to the Dumbledore character with a more fiery passion. But I still wonder........how would of Richard played Dumbledore if he still had lived???
The good thing about Michael Gambon and Richard Harris is that they both play Dumbeldore extremely well; they just represent the different sides of him. Harris was the calmer, more serene first interpretation of Dumbledore and he largely represented what Harry saw in the old headmaster his first year, but Gambon is more of the darker, manipulative Dumbledore that is revealed more and more in snatches as the years and films and books progress. I love them both.
I chose Harris based on how well he embodied Dumbledore from the books, which was perfectly. Gambon did not, he was so aggressive, the way he played Dumbledore was like the complete opposite of who his character was. Dumbledore did not need to be aggressive to be powerful he just was. He didn't need to speak or move and you could just feel his authority and power. I can't say I ever felt that from Gambon, even when he duels Voldemort. Someone commented that if Gambon was the original actor castes for Dumbledore our opinions would change but I disagree. You either play a character right or you don't. They character was laid out for them and one got it right, the other did not.
Michael Gambon truly ruined Dumbledore. People say that Gambon was better at portraying "battle" Dumbledore, yet they forget Harris's booming voice when he told the school to silence when the troll invaded the dungeons. Harris would have made the death scene of Dumbledore unbearably sad, and every other scene truly epic once Dumbledore started getting his awesome scenes.
Christian Robinson That's true. I never thought about it, but I would have felt more sympathy for the old, frail Dumbledore as portrayed by Harris. I had already read the books and knew what was coming, but seeing Harris cornered by the Death Eaters, falling to his death, and lying on the ground would have made a much greater impact.
Sean Weisman Harris's death as Dumbledore would have been as traumatic as it was reading it, funnily enough, Harris aways looked stronger than Gambon. He spoke softly and looked very kindly, but Harris projected an air of power that Gambon could never manage.
***** Yes oh my goodness he would have. Remember when he yelled "Silence!!" in the first movie? That man had the gentleness Gambon didn't, and the power that Gambon didn't. Michael Gambon always seemed angry, short with people, ragged, and weak. Harris had the kindness, feeling of wisdom, power, and intimidation that you imagine Dumbledore having. Harry says on numerous occasions that Dumbledore was very intimidating despite his personality.
People say that Gambon is a better Dumbledore by yelling and all that but we saw Harris yell silence in the Philosophers stone when the time quirell passed out and the students went crazy that's when Harris shouted silence so that means Harris wouldve been a good battle Dumbledore too. We may never know
The sad thing is Gambon actually became the perfect Dumbledore in Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows - he was calm, jolly, powerful, not dirty and scraggy looking, and he had more of the energy that Harris lacked. It was sadly too little, too late. His portrayal of Dumbledore in the films prior was unforgivable, especially in Goblet of Fire.
I think Prisoner of Azkaban, Half Blood Prince and the Deathly Hallows Gambon did a good job playing the Dumledore we all know and love. It's just Goblet and Order where he was completely off.
If I had to describe Dumbledore, I would say he is a very old and wise man but with the spirit of a young man. He was calm and cheerful, the kind of person who would plop down next to a student on the floor and offer them sweets. At the same time he was a powerful and commanding presence who strikes fear into Voldemort himself. The thing about Dumbledore is that he never loses his cool and you would never guess he was so powerful until you see him in action. Book Dumbledore can be terrifying without shouting and waving his hands around angrily like Gambon does and it's much more impactful that way because you are taken off guard. Richard Harris manages to capture that kind grandfatherly nature that Dumbledore has as well as being able to come off as serious and powerful without having to shout all the time. Unfortunately, due to his age and illness, he was unable to fully capture Dumbledore's youthful nature and probably wouldn't have been able to do so well later on when things got intense. Gambon on the other hand, while being able to retain this youthful nature that book Dumbledore had, he completely ruined this by acting like a short tempered, aggressive politician who doesn't get his way. Gambon uses shouting and anger to try and convey a sense of power but it makes him look weak and unsubtle compared the the real Dumbledore who was scarily composed in every situation. To make matters worse, Gambon never even read the book and dismissed it completely, opting to just act how he thinks a headmaster would act rather than how Dumbledore would act. A part of me blames the direction on this however because they could have simply told him how to act rather than let him loose. Alan Rickman, despite never reading the book, actually tried to act like Snape and paid respect to the character rather than try to make his own character.
Gambon shows the very human side of dumbledore, Harris was almost too calm and mystical to really show the infallible side of dumbledore, this video was definitely biased and didn’t show his incredible acting. He is an extremely talented actor, being one of the original members of the Royal national theatre. He was even knighted for his acting skills. The director was mostly at fault for that scene in the goblet of fire. Apart from that one scene, Gambon showed more of the complexities of dumbledore.
The fact that Harris, who cared for the character deeply enough to continue in the role despite serious illness during the filming of Chamber of Secrets, was succeeded by a man who cared so little about doing justice to the original story or to Harris's potrayel of Dumbledore, that he apparently never even bothered to read the books, is truly sad.
***** Its my honest opinion, and i couldn't care less if you think it is disrespectful. To me, Gambons performance was atrociously bad. It hardly resembled the Dumbledore i know from the books at all. Its all well and good to have artistic license to tweak the character here and there, but when the character being portrayed becomes unrecognizable because of your changes, then you know you've gone too far. I already knew Alan Rickman was an incredible actor, but if he didnt read the books and still managed to remain so faithful to Snapes original character, then he's even greaster than i thought.
The Dumbledore you "know from the books" is only in your head. Everyone comes away with a different perception of a character when reading a story. Just because yours is different from others, it doesn't mean that the portrayal of Dumbledore by Gambons was bad.
JTinGR If everyone comes away with a different view of a character, with most views being contrary to the authors intentions, it must be a very poorly written character indeed. Thankfully, Dumbledore from the Harry Potter book series is not one of these, and his distinct personality comes through clearly in every scene he's in.
JTinGR there are specific things that he did that were exactly contrary to things explicitly stated in the books. For example the line “Harry, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire” was to be “said calmly.” Not “HERRY DIDYA PUTYA NEM INDAGOBLAFIYA??????” Stuff like that happened constantly, which just made it painstakingly obvious that not only had Michael Gambon not read the books, but he clearly did not know the character of Dumbledore at all.
I love how in the fourth book, when dumbledore comes in to ask Harry if he put his name in the goblet of fire it says he asks him "calmly" then in the movie dumbledore is screaming and running at Harry 😂😂
When I saw the third one I was like WTF and couldn't figure out what was wrong with the movie at first. The main difference was that Richard Harris was a high calibre actor who would have provided a believable character arc and evolution had he not passed.
For me - Richard Harris will forever be 'Dumbledore' He personified Dumbledore as JK described him in the books. He was soft spoken, showed a wisdom & caring for Harry that Gambon's version was unable to in the first few movies he portrayed Dumbledore. The way Gambon was dressed as Dumbledore made me laugh. Wearing long dress robes, little hat, pulling the robes up when he walked/ran, his long fingernails were a turn-off. I liked him towards the end of the movies but I can see why JK said Dumbledore is gay. It was a dark day for HP fans when Richard Harris passed. His version was still the best ever.
I hope you guys realize they're really the same person. If Harris was alive, and had played Dumbledore for the whole series, he would have become rash and angry,and whatever you all think the other actor is. It just seems like Harris was more of a calmer person because Dumbledore's real personality wasn't revealed in the films Harris was in. If Harris was indeed a great actor, than he would have portrayed Dumbledore as the current actor displayed him, fierce and whatnot. That's my opinion.
no, he wouldn't have become trash or angry. Why because Harris actually read the books to learn the part... The newer Dumbledore never did that, which would explain why he seemed out of character, because he never really grasped who Dumbledore was.
marcus larson Actually i think the old dumbledore is much and looks more powerful because he wears loose robe, he doesnt express his know-it-all knowledge, plus he never RUN!
Richard Harris was Dumbledore, hands down. When I first saw that he wasn't playing DD in Prisoner of Azkaban I was furious, especially when I saw his replacement. Harris acted as Dumbledore, he was always calm (occlumens), and he even looked like the book drawings of DD. Gambon on the other hand yelled a lot, manhandled Harry during the Goblet of Fire scene, and was generally grumpy. DD never lost his cool, even when dealing with Crouch
Richard Harris reminds me of my childhood and I liked the first 2 movies after Michael took over in the prisoner of Azkaban I HATED the movie (only prisoner of Azkaban) I wish Richard Harris never died
There was an interterview with gambon where he explained he saw no point in reading the books, he did it for the money, and just read the script as himself. When he read his scenes he came across as a grumpy old man, and yes credits to him in the fight scenes he came of as badass but not in a protective way like the books portrayed him as. With Harris he plays it with so much complexity with the qualities of an adoring grandfather, yet still a feirce one. Most say that they couldn't imagine him in the darker scenes that Dumbledore goes on to do, but we didnt give him the chance. Harris has played that kind of strong character before and i think he would have pulled it off. The thing that is annoying me the most is how little care Gambon had for the role in movies and fanbases built from pure joy from the series.
When reading the books its hard to imagine the new Dumbledore doing all those things. I think Harris portrayed Dumbledore from the books better but Gambon would have been much better in action scenes (such as Voldy vs Dumblydore duel)
The thing is, Dumbledore was NEVER supposed to be angry when fighting Voldemort. That's not how it's shown in the books, he never breaks the guise of a cool and collected wise old man. I think that's where Gambon made his mistakes, he shows too many varying states of emotion. Harris had it down perfectly.
Rest In Peace Richard Harris (1930 - 2002) and Rest In Peace Michael Gambon (1940 - 2023) Through Out Richard Harris will always be Dumbledore to me because of his Grandfatherly Presence. But Michael Gambon Truly did an Incredible Performance Showing that even The Wise Hogwarts Headmaster was not Perfect and as his own Personal Demons.
Richard Harris passed away before Dumbledore's character was ever fully fleshed out with badass sequences. In the first two books, he was all whimsical and quirky and distant. Harris got all of the fluff from the series. There's no way to tell how he may have rocked the role as the series got darker.
Also, I am disappointed that harris was unfortunately ill as I think he could have done justice to the other sides of Dumbledore. When he was younger he was a very fiery actor (view richard harris hellraiser) and I think he still had a lot of that in him. Rip
Harris showed that he could be very authoritative and have a powerful voice. Remember the "Silence" part during the Halloween scene in the first movie?
Not really honestly, it'd be like when Oogway fought Tai Lung or Kai. Someone this calm while fighting, would give a presence of immense power and control.
And Richard Harris would have played a more dramatic Dumbledore as the movies got darker as well. People need to realise than Michael Gambon only got to play Dumbledore because Richard Harris died. Sadly we'll never know the films would have been like had Richard Harris lived, but I know they would have been good as Richard Harris was a very good actor.
Michael Gambon played in the sad going movies, and made Dumbledore a less mad and more powerful. Only in the first two movies he got a little bid too much anger. In the last ones, exceptionally the 6th movie, he became calm, and started to go more like the book. His speech from Cedric Diggory made him stupid. Richard Harris however, showed calmth and peace. He was a great actor. But how would scenes like the "Big Escape from Dumbledore" or "Journey to the Cave" look like? They're both even great, but Harris a little more. It is difficult to replace Harris in the same character with a different person. I find this a very good choice since I had a Dumbledore in my head like him.
Richard Harris was like a loving grandpa, I think he portrayed Dumbledore's gentleness in a brilliant way, while Michael Gambon was good at playing Dumbledore's fierce side. I think a mix between them would have been perfect for Dumbledore. But, If I have to pick one, I choose Mr. Harris.
I am great admirer of Gambon's creation. His outbursts of ire agree with air and situations. He shows powerfull but tired man, what makes him so human, true, and complex. But in the and of the day, in climax moments, in Ministry of Magic facing Voldemort, and on the top of Hogwarts tower facing deatheters he is the only truely calm being, knowing what he must, what he should, and what he will do. He is in control of himself, and therefore in control of situation. Gambon is one of the greatest movie assets.
Every time I see Harris as Dumbledore I cry a little because he reminds me of my grandfather who past away due to cancer and his personality was almost identical to Harris's Dumbledore
I really like both and I wouldn't recognize the fact that they are different actors without the information that they are. I didn't know it before someone told me And sorry for my bad English. I'm German
Both have their merits but when we’re talking book Dumbledore, Richard Harris is I’m sure who everyone pictures as Dumbledore I know I do. Though I do like certain moments of Michael gambon
the reason why I disliked the video is because you are making Gambon look bad. I honestly prefer Gambon, but there's no need to put only his angry scenes in when you could put all his calm scenes in like you did with Harris.
i agree with you that they should not show the angry side. but i would prefer Harris. one reason cuz i like his voice and it matches the character more. one more reason is cuz when Harris talks and moves around he looks and acts very calmly but when Gambon moves and talks it looks as if he is in a rush. but they are both acted very great and i cants truly say which is better.
Many do not know this, but when Richard Harris(RIP) got ill, he pleaded to the producers that they wouldn't re-cast him and was intensely adamant to return for Prisoner of Azkaban. That's the spirit of Dumbledore.
0:44 It was so hilarious when looking at the transition from Harris to Gambon. RIP Richard St John Francis Harris (01/10/1930 - 25/10/2002) and Sir Michael John Gambon CBE (19/10/1940 - 27/09/2023). May you two rest in peace in the Heavens of the 🌍🙏🙏🙏
Richard Harris had the Yoda quality - the wise old master who was reserved, quirky and gentle despite possessing insane levels of power. He matched the novel description much better in appearance (beard, clothes, glasses) and mannerisms (calm, soft-spoken). Michael Gambon suited the style shift of the third movie, and although he works great in some of the more dramatic scenes it's at the loss of the mystique Harris always brought to the character. I have no idea who thought a standard gray robe and yellowish beard would be a good move for the character though, it made him seem like a hobo at times.
I'm sorry you guys. I knew instantly in the third movie that Dumbldore was another person. He was more upbeat and had a different tone to his voice. The first one was more chill laid back and had a very different personality than the later one.
Michael Gambon was simply a lot younger and much more mobile and vital. So he may not have been the best option, but it's also hard to find a successor so quickly after an important actor dies.
Ian McKellen has stated in an interview that richard Harris said he would have been a bad replacement for him because he was offered after Richard Harris had passed away but he stated when Richard Harris was alive that he didn't put enough feeling into his acting which made me think Richard Harris must have put a lot of feeling into his acting I didn't get to see much of it because I only knew of him in Harry Potter and what little I've seen of him in Harry Potter was great
I think Richard Harris did well in the first two first two films. He might have possibly done the the third film effectively as well, but, from the fourth film and on, I think that Michael Gambon would be better. I think Dumbledore needed to become more aggressive and demanding due to Voldemort's return and the Death Eaters. I couldn't imagine Richard Harris's Dumbledore fighting Voldemort, drinking the potion at the cave, etc. He just seems too slow and fragile.
The change in personality didn't come from the change in actors, but from Dunbledore's progression. I mean, he was peacefully living as a wise, strong wizard and suddenly Voldemort, whom he blames himself for in part, comes back. Brings up the skeleton in his closet and then he's on edge.
The first two movies obviously had their dangers, but the movies that followed became increasingly dark. I thought Richard Harris was brilliants in the first two & portrayed Dumbledore perfectly. Even in the books, Dumbledore always made you question your thoughts because of how oddly calm he was. But books are different, they can have those certain elements & depths to them, whereas movies a little more complicated. Reading books means you have to completely open up your mind & imagine everything, as well benefiting from Harrys personal thoughts. When it comes to on-screen adaptions, what you see is what you get, its a little bit more complicated. From the book, we deduced that Harry was in constant danger but I personally never felt particularly worried about him. There was still an air of innocence to the books. It is sad that Harris passed away, but as for movie wise, I believe that Gambon's portrayal was essential to the franchise. His acting made me truly see why such a series as 'Harry Potter' could actually have been created for Adults.
All this talk about Harris' Dumbledore being calm, level headed, and grandfatherly kind of makes me want to laugh since Harris was quite a hell raiser in real life.
Tbh I think the change actually kinda helps show the difference and breaking down in a way of dumbledore showing how his time is like going fast and how it changes as each film gets more drastic
In goblet of fire, they showed him as angry, but in all of the others, he says actually a better representation. Dumbledore was a funny man that played tricks, made jokes, and was more active. Unlike Harris's very sweet and loving representation. In my opinion, Gambon was a better person for the job
OK honestly, think that Richard Harris should be the one and only Dumbledore but, he died right after the second movie. On October Twenty - Fifth two thousand two. Then in two thousand three a new actor for the role of Dumbledore, known as Michael Gambon. Richard Harris is a calm, mellow, kindhearted, and loving actor. On the other hand, Michael Gambon is a stern , loud , and somewhat loving person. If I were to choose between Richard or Michael to be the one and only Dumbledore it would have to be .... drum role please. Do do do do do do! Richard Harris!!!!! OK back to the point. Now not to be on the DARK side, I just thought that Gambon is a very loud. Have you seen this man in the last six films. Now I'm watching the fifth movie and Mr. Malthoy is very persuasive..... not. Now to get back on the basis. So if you think Richard Harris is the BEST Dumbledore vote as many tallies as you want. Everyone who disproves do the same for Michael Gambon. This message is approved by Kylie Edie Born on Feb 19 coming soon almost beep beep.
My theory is that after Chamber of Secrets, Dumbledore used his magic to reduce his body's age by 10 years or so, coz he didn't want to die until AFTER he made sure Voldemort was finished. That's why he seems so much older when Richard Harris does it.
I agreee, Harris was truly fit for the role. But I have to say, i was glad I didn't see Harris portray the cold and calculating Dumbledore in the final movies where he shows he didn't care as much for Harry as he had acted.
I personally liked the Richard Harris version better. I think that he fits the book-version dumbledore better. I also liked how his words were very comforting like a parent or grand parent. When he says "it does not do well to dwell on dreams and forget to live" infront of the mirror of erised I always feel enchanted. It would have been fun to see what he could have done further on in the movies. I liked that he was a little more mysterious and in control. But Gambon made a clever choice by showing more emotion in his version of dumbledore since it was necessary as the series progressed.
I feel like Gambon never bothered to read the books. My kids are 7 and 9 and they were appalled by his portrayal of Dumbledore - impatient, no subtlety, no twinkle in his eye. Dumbledore should not be shown flying off the handle - he was thoughtful and wise and almost god-like in his knowledge of what was going on and his restraint was such a fascinating part of his character - not reactionary and cranky like Gambon played him / was directed to play him. Gambon had zero warmth.
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Richard Harris! He's just a book hero... A real Dambldore!
You can't even spell Dumbledore.
Shamonnay Choudhury wat u meen its demblder
its dumb-ledore
I believe it's Damn'blee Derp
you idiots... it's doo doo door
richard harris was exactly how i pictured dumbledore in the books.
sdaftermath123 same
Same
@Amit Prabhu
Then your taste is just utter shit. You clearly don't even know who Dumbledore truly is if you actually think Micheal Gabmon did a better than Richard Harris.
@Amit Prabhu Dumbledore is supposed to be mostly a calm, old wizard. Richard Harris... this amazing man even had a voice that is *exactly* how J.K Rowling imagined Dumbledore's voice to be. Also, Richard Harris was quite capable of showing Dumbledore's "powerful" side. Look at how he bellows "SIIILENCE" in the Philosopher's Stone. Yes, Richard Harris was the man. Also, Richard Harris would've made Dumbledore's death much more depressing.
Michael Gabmon however, he just ruined Dumbledore. He was so rubbish at acting anything like Dumbledore. Hell, Micheal Gabmon didn't even have much of an idea about Dumbledore's character. Partly because he didn't read the books. Michael Gabmon would be more fitting for Gandalf.
Most of the Harry Potter cast were "bloody brilliant". But Micheal Gabmon just didn't cut it for most fans.
@Amit Prabhu
And how am I mentally retarded? I read the books. Yes, I did. And Dumbledore is mostly a calm old man. Ask literally any Harry Potter fan, let alone J.K Rowling. Now Dumbledore doesn't have that much "action" scenes in the first two Harry Potter films, which is why Richard Harris remains calm. But Richard Harris had proven that he can be energetic sometimes, as shown in the scene of the Halloween feast in the Philosopher's Stone. So he could very well easily be an aggrivated Dumbledore when necessary.
But in the books, even at dark times, Dumbledore is still mostly calm. Yes, he is. Even at the end of the Order of the Phoenix, when a lot of shit has just gone down, Dumbledore is still a calm old man in the books. So I don't know where you got the idea that Dumbledore is more aggrivated.
You're the one who doesn't know shit. Your other reply somewhere else in this comment section just proves that you're truly the one who has a brain of a toddler. And you need fucking help!
To those people who think Richard Harris wouldn't be capable of showing Dumbledore's "powerful" side:
Remember in the Philosopher's Stone? The way Richard Harris as Dumbledore bellowed "SIIILENCE!" It was perfect. I can definitely imagine Richard Harris doing very well as Dumbledore in the later Harry Potter films.
Yes. Gambon can also shout, and even louder.
Harris also played a belligerent version of Richard the Lionheart in Robin and Marian. That'd be one example of what an angry Dumbledore would be like.
Yes you did great with the extra IIIIs too!!! Hahah😂
@@rudraakram3879 yes but he shouted even louder
He'd gotten quite frail by this point though - if he'd been ten years younger perhaps
BOOK 1 CH 1: "His blue eyes were light, bright and sparkling behind half-moon spectacles and his nose was very long and crooked, as though it had been broken at least twice." THIS IS DUMBLEDORE. Gentle and thoughtful on the surface, but brilliant, clever, and perceptive underneath. He never yelled in the books. He didn't have to. Just his presence with his soul piercing eyes were enough to silence a room.
But in all seriousness... both actors have their defects. Dumbledore is an immensely complex character - probably the most in the whole book. He is a bad ass fighter, a shrewd manipulator, but also cultivates a cutie pie grandpa persona (which may be partly put on, but only partly. I mean, he really does love sherbert lemons and making zany inappropriate comments at odd moments).
His true personality hadn't been revealed in the first books so we have no idea how Richard harris would have gone on to portray him in the future.
Gambon has his merits but I just don't think he was subtle enough. Yes, plenty of people were afraid of Dumbledore, but it wasn't because he went around shouting and slamming doors.
yes, the best comment!
@@olejdi2092i just said to myself "huh, that's a very accurate comment"
i liked harris more... he were nicer and not so loud
haha xDD
You mean Harris isn't as pompous?
The best issue raised I read on another site was that they would have a hard time imagining Harris locked in battle.
because he's too old but I don't know what they are referring too.
Besides if special effects and imaginative directing can make Steven Segal seem like he's still a fit martial arts master why couldn't they have done the same for Harris. Its fiction its not like there is "magic" so Harris could be written to be able to do anything, they would just have to draft the effects. I'm okay with either.
u know that harris died?
That's not the point its an academic issue of who was the better Dumbydork.
The argument I mentioned is pure "what if" Harris had lived a couple of more years would he have been able to play a more physical role if he was alive. My point is you can take an almost dead actor and make him look good with special effects. Or make an over the hill to fat to move martial artists look good by framing the shots so the enemy dudes are doing all the action. If Harris had been alive for another episode or two they could have made him look up to the part. But in all fairness I did not know where the guy who brought it up was getting his idea from. I don't remember the other DD did much requiring a physical role.
Its an interesting question because Stalone canceled Rambo 5 because he got more attention doing the Creed movie without a lot of physical prep and Rambo would take a lot of physical prep but because he does the part.
DannyTV
Ya think??
"Gambon must have done something right, because I had no idea Dumbledore was played by two different people until now."
the long white beard and hair helped though
Richard Harris was the better actor hands down. That Douchebag Gambon turned him into a mean, angry and spazzy person.
PhantomlordPL Well, one played him for just 2 of 8 movies.
lmaooo
Oliver Twist Basically I never knew that till today
Harris plays a true powerful wizard, a calm leader with confidence for others. He shows wisdom. Gambon was over dramatic and hyper. He did succeed in the role and did not fail. I do, however feel that Harris was the better of the two.
I don't think Harris would've been able to play a good enough role in the later movies which were more serious.
Nah. Even in the later books, to me Dumbledore was still the embodiment of calm and and wisdom, regardless of the seriousness of the situations they were in. Harris wasn't able to show how he would portray a serious Dumbledore but I think he would've killed it. As Dan L rightly said Gambon was way too over dramatic and hyper and with that he lost this aura of wisdom and silent power that would've made me truly believe that he was the only wizard that Voldemort feared.
thedjb300 it's a fact that Richard Harris would've killed it. Just imagine him in those scenes. HBP, GOF, OoTP. Jesus he would've Harry Potter 10x better. Gambon looks like a homeless man with a snoopy hat. Pathetic performance from him. I didn't give 2 shits when he died. If Richard Harris were playing him I KNOW for a fact I would've cried.
Why do people think Harris wouldn't be capable of filming as the story got darker? It is a stupid assumption, Dumbledore never really lost his cool in the books, except during the cave potion. Also, Dumbledore didn't need to be an athlete to duel. They didn't make justice with that battle in Order of the Phoenix, the battle in the book was way better and detailed. Even Harry and his friends had a more interesting adventure in the Ministry in the books than in the film version.
@@paolopauletto9799 um actually he kinda did. Dumbledore is often described as looking old but moving around like a young man. Gambon managed to capture that element better
The first part with that soundtrack and Richard Harris makes me so emotional. I will always remember you, Richard Harris, what a great performance he made, the real Dumbledore, an amazing actor.
Yes Michael Gambon was terrible. He even said in a interview that he just reads his lines and thats it. No thought or anything behind them. Where as, when I see Harris version of Dumbledore, you can see the pain in his eyes. You can see that he holds many secrets and there is a lot he is not telling harry. Every word is controlled and thought out, Gambon turns Dumbledore into a street hippy who is flying by the seat of his pants. I laugh whenever I see Dumbledore throttle Harry in goblet of fire. Because I think of one of my favourite scenes from order of the phoenix (the book) that wasnt in the film. Where after the batltle in the department of mysteries. Harry freaks out and starts smashing alot of dumbledores posessions. and dumbledore says "by all means, destroy my posessions, but I must warn you, I have many". When I think of how Gambon would have played this scene, he probably would have thrown harry across the room or knocked him out.
"THAT LAMP COSTED 5 SICKLES! EXPELLIARMUS!"
In the book scene you mentioned from "The Order of the Phoenix," the quote from Dumbledore is, "By all means, continue destroying my possessions. I daresay I have too many."
And the remarkable thing is that it's Prof. Dumbledore's implacable serenity that actually sets Harry off in the first place. Harry snaps when Dumbledore calmly tells him he understands how he's feeling, because judging by his serene demeanor, Harry is sure he can't possibly understand the agony of guilt he's suffering.
No wonder they never put that scene in the film, after having portrayed Dumbledore like little more than a stressed and freaked-out parent in the GOF, virtually the antithesis of his actual character.
HopeUnquenchable very well put!. The thing is Dumbledore as the head of Hogwarts has to be switched on and alert, he carries his cards close to his vest. Sure his has doubts, he had many when it came to his plan of leaving Harry with the Dursleys in hopes that Harry grow up normal instead of spoilt and famous all his life, but he doesn't doubt or go off the rails that bad!. In my mind if THIS Dumbledore run hogwarts, the school would be closed LONG AGO. He is so agitated and paranoid he would just be a loose canon. If any student got in to a fight this dumbledore would be more likely to punch the kid in the head.
" In discussing his portrayal of Dumbledore in the Harry Potter film series, Gambon has given detailed accounts. Particularly, he was quoted as saying that when portraying Dumbledore, he does not necessarily "have to play anyone". He further states, "I just stick on a beard and play me, so it's no great feat. I never ease into a role - every part I play is just a variant of my own personality. I’m not really a character actor at all." This suggests that Gambon chooses to act his performance based on his own intuitive interpretations of how a character would respond to certain situations. In short, Gambon has not deliberately aimed to follow the specific characteristics of Dumbledore, as referenced in the books, but rather developed an acting style in which he combines his own personality with that of his character."
I pulled this from an interview with Gambon I think he was an amazing Dumbledore
nolan palmer Michael gambon would have been a better f****ng voldemort
Richard Harris was brilliant, you could tell he cared about the part, took his time with it and researched the role between himself and Harry.. Whenever you watch the scenes between Harris's Dumbledore and Harry, you can tell they have that father/mentor relationship as described in the books. While Michael Gambon is a great physical Dumbledore, I really never got that special bond the two characters had, and every time I watched him, even the scenes where he wasn't, it always felt like he was angry at Harry. It's a shame Richard Harris had to leave us so early, 1 & 2 will always be my favorites.
RIP Richard Harris
@Amit Prabhu
And you do NOT have good taste. Oh no.
@Amit Prabhu
I didn't use "all caps". I was just mimicking the way you said "NOT". As for my username, that's none of your bloody business.
Also, your comments right here just prove that you're a total 5 year old. "Gay, fat ass hippo".
Get a grip. Grow the fuck up.
It would seem most people prefer Harris, which I guess means Harris wins.
take the most people's side, instead of thinking about it. ( no offensense) I like it! XD
Andy K not true. Gambon won a recent poll of 10,000 people. 57 percent to gambon and 43 percent to Harris. This was daily mail readers.
I like Gambon more than Harris because I think Harris made Dumbledore look boring and a weak wizard. Gambon on the otherhand, made him look powerful and full of emotions from his past.
@@robert9990
Ehhh...
Harris is precisely what the book describes.
@@aishahezreen5253 I've read them yes, or rather listened to audio books xd. But It's just my preference, hearing about Dumbledore in the books, made me think of him as ''weaker''. Idk, sounds wierd. But anyways, I just like Gambon better as Dumbledore, eventhough he may not potray how the character actually was
But my favorite is Richard Harris. He was sweet, kind, gentle, and loving. On the other hand Micheal Gambon was a complete badass. He brought a completely new side to the Dumbledore character with a more fiery passion. But I still wonder........how would of Richard played Dumbledore if he still had lived???
That Douchebag turned Dumbledore into a mean, angry and spazzy old man. Richard Harris was way better hands down.
The good thing about Michael Gambon and Richard Harris is that they both play Dumbeldore extremely well; they just represent the different sides of him. Harris was the calmer, more serene first interpretation of Dumbledore and he largely represented what Harry saw in the old headmaster his first year, but Gambon is more of the darker, manipulative Dumbledore that is revealed more and more in snatches as the years and films and books progress.
I love them both.
Gambon never read the books, he refused to do it, so no, he didn't know how Dumbledore really was and he neither did Newell and Yates.
People need to realise this
@@MichaelM28 stop calling people retards for not agreeing with your opinion.
@Max He used Snape the whole time as well as Harry. He was the mastermind of defeating Lord Voldemort.
Paolo Pauletto
Alan rickman didn’t read the books either and same with a few other actors. Gambon was a good Dumbledore as well.
I chose Harris based on how well he embodied Dumbledore from the books, which was perfectly. Gambon did not, he was so aggressive, the way he played Dumbledore was like the complete opposite of who his character was. Dumbledore did not need to be aggressive to be powerful he just was. He didn't need to speak or move and you could just feel his authority and power. I can't say I ever felt that from Gambon, even when he duels Voldemort.
Someone commented that if Gambon was the original actor castes for Dumbledore our opinions would change but I disagree. You either play a character right or you don't. They character was laid out for them and one got it right, the other did not.
I rather Michael Gambon
I loved Michael Gambon tho ... But have different thing for Richard Harris ❤️
I never saw Gambon as aggressive, just more awake
@@carlosvsiguejugando3102 he was more loud and agressive at times and didn't look wise to me.
Richard Harris knows calm while Micheal Gambon thinks calm means slamming Harry and shouting at him like a maniac.
Michael Gambon truly ruined Dumbledore. People say that Gambon was better at portraying "battle" Dumbledore, yet they forget Harris's booming voice when he told the school to silence when the troll invaded the dungeons. Harris would have made the death scene of Dumbledore unbearably sad, and every other scene truly epic once Dumbledore started getting his awesome scenes.
Christian Robinson That's true. I never thought about it, but I would have felt more sympathy for the old, frail Dumbledore as portrayed by Harris. I had already read the books and knew what was coming, but seeing Harris cornered by the Death Eaters, falling to his death, and lying on the ground would have made a much greater impact.
Sean Weisman Harris's death as Dumbledore would have been as traumatic as it was reading it, funnily enough, Harris aways looked stronger than Gambon. He spoke softly and looked very kindly, but Harris projected an air of power that Gambon could never manage.
I totally agree
***** Yes oh my goodness he would have. Remember when he yelled "Silence!!" in the first movie? That man had the gentleness Gambon didn't, and the power that Gambon didn't. Michael Gambon always seemed angry, short with people, ragged, and weak. Harris had the kindness, feeling of wisdom, power, and intimidation that you imagine Dumbledore having. Harry says on numerous occasions that Dumbledore was very intimidating despite his personality.
People say that Gambon is a better Dumbledore by yelling and all that but we saw Harris yell silence in the Philosophers stone when the time quirell passed out and the students went crazy that's when Harris shouted silence so that means Harris wouldve been a good battle Dumbledore too. We may never know
The sad thing is Gambon actually became the perfect Dumbledore in Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows - he was calm, jolly, powerful, not dirty and scraggy looking, and he had more of the energy that Harris lacked. It was sadly too little, too late. His portrayal of Dumbledore in the films prior was unforgivable, especially in Goblet of Fire.
+Crichjo32 can't blame that on him in the goblet of fire, that's called bad direction and bad writing
I think Prisoner of Azkaban, Half Blood Prince and the Deathly Hallows Gambon did a good job playing the Dumledore we all know and love. It's just Goblet and Order where he was completely off.
Bad writing? All the movies were based on the books by the same author numbnuts.
screenwriting*
Crichjo32 Indeed! They should've asked Ian Mcklegen to do Dumbledore
Started crying once "Leaving Hogwarts" plays and Richard Harris' face 😢 full of love, empathy, warmth.
RIP to both Richard Harris and now Michael Gambon too. Both incredible actors who really gave us some great memories of Dumbledore.
If I had to describe Dumbledore, I would say he is a very old and wise man but with the spirit of a young man. He was calm and cheerful, the kind of person who would plop down next to a student on the floor and offer them sweets. At the same time he was a powerful and commanding presence who strikes fear into Voldemort himself.
The thing about Dumbledore is that he never loses his cool and you would never guess he was so powerful until you see him in action. Book Dumbledore can be terrifying without shouting and waving his hands around angrily like Gambon does and it's much more impactful that way because you are taken off guard.
Richard Harris manages to capture that kind grandfatherly nature that Dumbledore has as well as being able to come off as serious and powerful without having to shout all the time. Unfortunately, due to his age and illness, he was unable to fully capture Dumbledore's youthful nature and probably wouldn't have been able to do so well later on when things got intense.
Gambon on the other hand, while being able to retain this youthful nature that book Dumbledore had, he completely ruined this by acting like a short tempered, aggressive politician who doesn't get his way. Gambon uses shouting and anger to try and convey a sense of power but it makes him look weak and unsubtle compared the the real Dumbledore who was scarily composed in every situation. To make matters worse, Gambon never even read the book and dismissed it completely, opting to just act how he thinks a headmaster would act rather than how Dumbledore would act. A part of me blames the direction on this however because they could have simply told him how to act rather than let him loose. Alan Rickman, despite never reading the book, actually tried to act like Snape and paid respect to the character rather than try to make his own character.
Gambon shows the very human side of dumbledore, Harris was almost too calm and mystical to really show the infallible side of dumbledore, this video was definitely biased and didn’t show his incredible acting. He is an extremely talented actor, being one of the original members of the Royal national theatre. He was even knighted for his acting skills. The director was mostly at fault for that scene in the goblet of fire. Apart from that one scene, Gambon showed more of the complexities of dumbledore.
The fact that Harris, who cared for the character deeply enough to continue in the role despite serious illness during the filming of Chamber of Secrets, was succeeded by a man who cared so little about doing justice to the original story or to Harris's potrayel of Dumbledore, that he apparently never even bothered to read the books, is truly sad.
***** Its my honest opinion, and i couldn't care less if you think it is disrespectful. To me, Gambons performance was atrociously bad. It hardly resembled the Dumbledore i know from the books at all. Its all well and good to have artistic license to tweak the character here and there, but when the character being portrayed becomes unrecognizable because of your changes, then you know you've gone too far. I already knew Alan Rickman was an incredible actor, but if he didnt read the books and still managed to remain so faithful to Snapes original character, then he's even greaster than i thought.
The Dumbledore you "know from the books" is only in your head. Everyone comes away with a different perception of a character when reading a story. Just because yours is different from others, it doesn't mean that the portrayal of Dumbledore by Gambons was bad.
JTinGR If everyone comes away with a different view of a character, with most views being contrary to the authors intentions, it must be a very poorly written character indeed. Thankfully, Dumbledore from the Harry Potter book series is not one of these, and his distinct personality comes through clearly in every scene he's in.
I can't agree more. Harris' performance was nothing short of excellent.
JTinGR there are specific things that he did that were exactly contrary to things explicitly stated in the books. For example the line “Harry, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire” was to be “said calmly.” Not “HERRY DIDYA PUTYA NEM INDAGOBLAFIYA??????” Stuff like that happened constantly, which just made it painstakingly obvious that not only had Michael Gambon not read the books, but he clearly did not know the character of Dumbledore at all.
(Chants) RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS!
(Joining in) RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS!
+SideKick Archer (Me too!) RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS!
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+SideKick Archer (wait for me!) RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS!
Damn, Harris is dead, and now Rickman.
R.I.P Richard Harris. He was the Best one
Dubble FunGaming no he wasnt but RIP
HE WAS THE CALMEST SO HE WAS THE BEST
What does calm have anything to do is it? I'd rather have a bad ass wizard, who whoops ass on a daily basis, and screams a little in the process
But Harris Is the kind of guy you would think say "I'm Just gonna Slap That Little ASS"
I love how in the fourth book, when dumbledore comes in to ask Harry if he put his name in the goblet of fire it says he asks him "calmly" then in the movie dumbledore is screaming and running at Harry 😂😂
this made me crack up
chubeviewer Same at the end. xD
When I saw the third one I was like WTF and couldn't figure out what was wrong with the movie at first. The main difference was that Richard Harris was a high calibre actor who would have provided a believable character arc and evolution had he not passed.
For me - Richard Harris will forever be 'Dumbledore' He personified Dumbledore as JK described him in the books. He was soft spoken, showed a wisdom & caring for Harry that Gambon's version was unable to in the first few movies he portrayed Dumbledore. The way Gambon was dressed as Dumbledore made me laugh. Wearing long dress robes, little hat, pulling the robes up when he walked/ran, his long fingernails were a turn-off. I liked him towards the end of the movies but I can see why JK said Dumbledore is gay. It was a dark day for HP fans when Richard Harris passed. His version was still the best ever.
I hope you guys realize they're really the same person. If Harris was alive, and had played Dumbledore for the whole series, he would have become rash and angry,and whatever you all think the other actor is. It just seems like Harris was more of a calmer person because Dumbledore's real personality wasn't revealed in the films Harris was in. If Harris was indeed a great actor, than he would have portrayed Dumbledore as the current actor displayed him, fierce and whatnot. That's my opinion.
Lol
no, he wouldn't have become trash or angry. Why because Harris actually read the books to learn the part... The newer Dumbledore never did that, which would explain why he seemed out of character, because he never really grasped who Dumbledore was.
I think they both played Dumbledore beautifully. I still stand by my original comment though.
marcus larson Actually i think the old dumbledore is much and looks more powerful because he wears loose robe, he doesnt express his know-it-all knowledge, plus he never RUN!
We all have good points
Definitely richard harris! He fits the book descriptions better. Acted more like the dumbledore In the books rather than the other one
Richard died in 2002 that's why they changed the pers with Michael .
Richard Harris was Dumbledore, hands down. When I first saw that he wasn't playing DD in Prisoner of Azkaban I was furious, especially when I saw his replacement. Harris acted as Dumbledore, he was always calm (occlumens), and he even looked like the book drawings of DD. Gambon on the other hand yelled a lot, manhandled Harry during the Goblet of Fire scene, and was generally grumpy. DD never lost his cool, even when dealing with Crouch
Richard Harris reminds me of my childhood and I liked the first 2 movies after Michael took over in the prisoner of Azkaban I HATED the movie (only prisoner of Azkaban) I wish Richard Harris never died
There was an interterview with gambon where he explained he saw no point in reading the books, he did it for the money, and just read the script as himself. When he read his scenes he came across as a grumpy old man, and yes credits to him in the fight scenes he came of as badass but not in a protective way like the books portrayed him as. With Harris he plays it with so much complexity with the qualities of an adoring grandfather, yet still a feirce one. Most say that they couldn't imagine him in the darker scenes that Dumbledore goes on to do, but we didnt give him the chance. Harris has played that kind of strong character before and i think he would have pulled it off. The thing that is annoying me the most is how little care Gambon had for the role in movies and fanbases built from pure joy from the series.
When reading the books its hard to imagine the new Dumbledore doing all those things. I think Harris portrayed Dumbledore from the books better but Gambon would have been much better in action scenes (such as Voldy vs Dumblydore duel)
The thing is, Dumbledore was NEVER supposed to be angry when fighting Voldemort. That's not how it's shown in the books, he never breaks the guise of a cool and collected wise old man. I think that's where Gambon made his mistakes, he shows too many varying states of emotion. Harris had it down perfectly.
made me LoL at that transition
me too😂
yes. xD
Rest In Peace Richard Harris (1930 - 2002) and Rest In Peace Michael Gambon (1940 - 2023) Through Out Richard Harris will always be Dumbledore to me because of his Grandfatherly Presence. But Michael Gambon Truly did an Incredible Performance Showing that even The Wise Hogwarts Headmaster was not Perfect and as his own Personal Demons.
YEAH! EVERYONE JOIN IN! (continues chanting) RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! RICHARD HARRIS! ( forms a crowd LOL XD)
It's like the 1st stage of a boss in an RPG vs the 2nd stage
R.i.p. Richard - he was a good Dumbledore
Richard Harris passed away before Dumbledore's character was ever fully fleshed out with badass sequences. In the first two books, he was all whimsical and quirky and distant. Harris got all of the fluff from the series. There's no way to tell how he may have rocked the role as the series got darker.
Changing Storms But dumbledore wasn't a badass. He always was a Kind oder quite and lovely. Maybe a little bit emotional, but NOT a badass!
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Richard Harris was better
Also, I am disappointed that harris was unfortunately ill as I think he could have done justice to the other sides of Dumbledore. When he was younger he was a very fiery actor (view richard harris hellraiser) and I think he still had a lot of that in him. Rip
It would be awkward picturing Harris in the duel with Voldemort.
Harris showed that he could be very authoritative and have a powerful voice. Remember the "Silence" part during the Halloween scene in the first movie?
Not really honestly, it'd be like when Oogway fought Tai Lung or Kai. Someone this calm while fighting, would give a presence of immense power and control.
He really had to slow it when he get angry 😂
I like both, but Harris pictures the "book Dumbledore" more, in my opinion. The first one.
one has a really nostalgic feel but the other makes me get all defensive and scared
RIP both Harris and Gambon
I feel like Richard Harris was good for what the first two movies were like but Michael Gambon did a more dramatic dumbledore as the movies got darker
And Richard Harris would have played a more dramatic Dumbledore as the movies got darker as well. People need to realise than Michael Gambon only got to play Dumbledore because Richard Harris died. Sadly we'll never know the films would have been like had Richard Harris lived, but I know they would have been good as Richard Harris was a very good actor.
Michael Gambon played in the sad going movies, and made Dumbledore a less mad and more powerful. Only in the first two movies he got a little bid too much anger. In the last ones, exceptionally the 6th movie, he became calm, and started to go more like the book. His speech from Cedric Diggory made him stupid. Richard Harris however, showed calmth and peace. He was a great actor. But how would scenes like the "Big Escape from Dumbledore" or "Journey to the Cave" look like?
They're both even great, but Harris a little more. It is difficult to replace Harris in the same character with a different person. I find this a very good choice since I had a Dumbledore in my head like him.
Richard Harris was like a loving grandpa, I think he portrayed Dumbledore's gentleness in a brilliant way, while Michael Gambon was good at playing Dumbledore's fierce side.
I think a mix between them would have been perfect for Dumbledore. But, If I have to pick one, I choose Mr. Harris.
this made gambon look worse but in the end id probably have to pick him...they're both amazing though. Oh and this was hilarious af
I am great admirer of Gambon's creation. His outbursts of ire agree with air and situations. He shows powerfull but tired man, what makes him so human, true, and complex. But in the and of the day, in climax moments, in Ministry of Magic facing Voldemort, and on the top of Hogwarts tower facing deatheters he is the only truely calm being, knowing what he must, what he should, and what he will do. He is in control of himself, and therefore in control of situation. Gambon is one of the greatest movie assets.
Richard Harris, because Dumbledore was a wise old powerful wizard and in my opinion Richard Harris gave that vibe/appearance of a wise old man.
Every time I see Harris as Dumbledore I cry a little because he reminds me of my grandfather who past away due to cancer and his personality was almost identical to Harris's Dumbledore
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I really like both and I wouldn't recognize the fact that they are different actors without the information that they are. I didn't know it before someone told me
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Richard harris a legend
Both have their merits but when we’re talking book Dumbledore, Richard Harris is I’m sure who everyone pictures as Dumbledore I know I do. Though I do like certain moments of Michael gambon
the reason why I disliked the video is because you are making Gambon look bad. I honestly prefer Gambon, but there's no need to put only his angry scenes in when you could put all his calm scenes in like you did with Harris.
I'm agree!!
Me too!
same
i agree with you that they should not show the angry side. but i would prefer Harris. one reason cuz i like his voice and it matches the character more. one more reason is cuz when Harris talks and moves around he looks and acts very calmly but when Gambon moves and talks it looks as if he is in a rush. but they are both acted very great and i cants truly say which is better.
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There was completely no reason for the dramatic switch, but I laughed so hard at it xD
Many do not know this, but when Richard Harris(RIP) got ill, he pleaded to the producers that they wouldn't re-cast him and was intensely adamant to return for Prisoner of Azkaban. That's the spirit of Dumbledore.
Richard Harris!
Book: "Harry, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire?" Dumbledore asked calmly.
Film: 1:12
0:44 It was so hilarious when looking at the transition from Harris to Gambon. RIP Richard St John Francis Harris (01/10/1930 - 25/10/2002) and Sir Michael John Gambon CBE (19/10/1940 - 27/09/2023). May you two rest in peace in the Heavens of the 🌍🙏🙏🙏
This was hysterical!!! But true. Gambon did a fine job, but Harris NAILED it. I prefer the more calm Dumbledore because it is more true to the books.
Richard Harris had the Yoda quality - the wise old master who was reserved, quirky and gentle despite possessing insane levels of power. He matched the novel description much better in appearance (beard, clothes, glasses) and mannerisms (calm, soft-spoken). Michael Gambon suited the style shift of the third movie, and although he works great in some of the more dramatic scenes it's at the loss of the mystique Harris always brought to the character. I have no idea who thought a standard gray robe and yellowish beard would be a good move for the character though, it made him seem like a hobo at times.
is it bad that i didnt notice the difference at all?
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+Sanket Makwana me neither, but I have face blindness check it maybe you have it too
Not gonna lie Gambon’s potrayal made me root for snaps to kill him 😂 and not for nothing he almost made Voldemort look nice
He was going to be in the third movie. He asked the producers not to re-cast the rule, but he died before filming started.
I'm sorry you guys. I knew instantly in the third movie that Dumbldore was another person. He was more upbeat and had a different tone to his voice. The first one was more chill laid back and had a very different personality than the later one.
RIP Richard Harris. He was so much better as Dumbledore.
Richard Harris: 😇❤️
Michael Gambon: 👹🔥
micheal gambon was my favotite.
That douchebag turned him into a mean, angry spazzy old man. Michael Gambon my ass!
Michael Gambon was simply a lot younger and much more mobile and vital. So he may not have been the best option, but it's also hard to find a successor so quickly after an important actor dies.
Ian McKellen has stated in an interview that richard Harris said he would have been a bad replacement for him because he was offered after Richard Harris had passed away but he stated when Richard Harris was alive that he didn't put enough feeling into his acting which made me think Richard Harris must have put a lot of feeling into his acting I didn't get to see much of it because I only knew of him in Harry Potter and what little I've seen of him in Harry Potter was great
I think Richard Harris did well in the first two first two films. He might have possibly done the the third film effectively as well, but, from the fourth film and on, I think that Michael Gambon would be better. I think Dumbledore needed to become more aggressive and demanding due to Voldemort's return and the Death Eaters. I couldn't imagine Richard Harris's Dumbledore fighting Voldemort, drinking the potion at the cave, etc. He just seems too slow and fragile.
My personal favorite is when he’s screaming at Fake Moody asking where Real Moody is: “IS HE IN THIS RÆOM?!” 1:09
The change in personality didn't come from the change in actors, but from Dunbledore's progression. I mean, he was peacefully living as a wise, strong wizard and suddenly Voldemort, whom he blames himself for in part, comes back. Brings up the skeleton in his closet and then he's on edge.
The music differences 😂😂😂😂
I love you Richard Harris and Michael Gambon. Rip Richard Harris.😭😥💔❤😫🙏
I prefer richard harris because he seems to capture the role of dumbledore more
The first two movies obviously had their dangers, but the movies that followed became increasingly dark. I thought Richard Harris was brilliants in the first two & portrayed Dumbledore perfectly. Even in the books, Dumbledore always made you question your thoughts because of how oddly calm he was. But books are different, they can have those certain elements & depths to them, whereas movies a little more complicated. Reading books means you have to completely open up your mind & imagine everything, as well benefiting from Harrys personal thoughts. When it comes to on-screen adaptions, what you see is what you get, its a little bit more complicated. From the book, we deduced that Harry was in constant danger but I personally never felt particularly worried about him. There was still an air of innocence to the books. It is sad that Harris passed away, but as for movie wise, I believe that Gambon's portrayal was essential to the franchise. His acting made me truly see why such a series as 'Harry Potter' could actually have been created for Adults.
All this talk about Harris' Dumbledore being calm, level headed, and grandfatherly kind of makes me want to laugh since Harris was quite a hell raiser in real life.
Tbh I think the change actually kinda helps show the difference and breaking down in a way of dumbledore showing how his time is like going fast and how it changes as each film gets more drastic
I prefer Richard Harris, because that's how I've always pictured him in the books.
In goblet of fire, they showed him as angry, but in all of the others, he says actually a better representation. Dumbledore was a funny man that played tricks, made jokes, and was more active. Unlike Harris's very sweet and loving representation. In my opinion, Gambon was a better person for the job
Richard Harris is obviously the best..he looks much more wise and his voice tone is so adorable..R.I.P.
Richard Harris; is; Dumbledore.. an; always;will; be,; Michael Gambon; is; OK.;
Richard Harris (RIP) (2001-2002) - Harry Potter Films 1-2
Michael Gambon (2004-2010) - Harry Potter Films 3-7
Looking back I get the feeling Harris played Nikolas Flamel, not Dumbledore.
OK honestly, think that Richard Harris should be the one and only Dumbledore but, he died right after the second movie. On October Twenty - Fifth two thousand two. Then in two thousand three a new actor for the role of Dumbledore, known as Michael Gambon. Richard Harris is a calm, mellow, kindhearted, and loving actor. On the other hand, Michael Gambon is a stern , loud , and somewhat loving person. If I were to choose between Richard or Michael to be the one and only Dumbledore it would have to be .... drum role please. Do do do do do do! Richard Harris!!!!! OK back to the point. Now not to be on the DARK side, I just thought that Gambon is a very loud. Have you seen this man in the last six films. Now I'm watching the fifth movie and Mr. Malthoy is very persuasive..... not. Now to get back on the basis. So if you think Richard Harris is the BEST Dumbledore vote as many tallies as you want. Everyone who disproves do the same for Michael Gambon.
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I think Michael looks more like the strong, powerful and mighty Dumbledore who can defeat Voldemort
Sorry I meant Richard Harris
Michael Gambon's take on Dumbledore was he was aggressive when he said "HARRY DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?!!"
I FUCKING DIED WHEN THE ACTION MUSIC STARTED PLAYING
This is totally not biased ;)
And your comment is TOTALLY not sarcastic. ; )
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My theory is that after Chamber of Secrets, Dumbledore used his magic to reduce his body's age by 10 years or so, coz he didn't want to die until AFTER he made sure Voldemort was finished. That's why he seems so much older when Richard Harris does it.
I agreee, Harris was truly fit for the role. But I have to say, i was glad I didn't see Harris portray the cold and calculating Dumbledore in the final movies where he shows he didn't care as much for Harry as he had acted.
I personally liked the Richard Harris version better. I think that he fits the book-version dumbledore better. I also liked how his words were very comforting like a parent or grand parent. When he says "it does not do well to dwell on dreams and forget to live" infront of the mirror of erised I always feel enchanted. It would have been fun to see what he could have done further on in the movies. I liked that he was a little more mysterious and in control.
But Gambon made a clever choice by showing more emotion in his version of dumbledore since it was necessary as the series progressed.
I feel like Gambon never bothered to read the books. My kids are 7 and 9 and they were appalled by his portrayal of Dumbledore - impatient, no subtlety, no twinkle in his eye. Dumbledore should not be shown flying off the handle - he was thoughtful and wise and almost god-like in his knowledge of what was going on and his restraint was such a fascinating part of his character - not reactionary and cranky like Gambon played him / was directed to play him. Gambon had zero warmth.
Oh scrolling down people said he didn't read the books. Well - it shows in his portrayal - how lame!
LOL you think gambon chose what to do? It was the 100% the director that told him to shout.