Why Human Coaching Outshines Engines in Chess Analysis

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  • @Kasperrkuijpers
    @Kasperrkuijpers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the position at minute 8 I was thinking Ra2 as the first move with the idea of doubling the rooks on the a file, but I guess that is not good as black can do he same (Ra7) or bring the queen (Qb7)?
    For the homework position I would go for Qe2 which forces a queen trade (as otherwise mate is threatened with Qe2 Qc6 Qe7+ Kh8 Qe8+ Qxe8 Rxe8), without the queens on the board black has no real threats and white should be winning. Re3 crossed my mind as well, looks good but more complicated as the queens stay on, with little time I would go for the easiest playable option.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ra2 also looks reasonable, thanks! It is very human. Qe2! would be my choice too!

  • @tobiass3540
    @tobiass3540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the last position, if I don't have much time, I would obviously force a queen trade with Qe2, which is the first instinct. If I have time, I would calculate Re3 as well

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent!

    • @lyingcat9022
      @lyingcat9022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I like Re3 kicking the queen with the ability to push f2 block the diagonal and give the king luffed. And as a bonus get the king one square closer for when a heavy or two get traded off. Then maybe swing the queen around the queen side to harass the pawns and king all up on there side.

  • @jonnyjansson7320
    @jonnyjansson7320 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As you said, black's immediate threat is 1..Bh3 and white gets mated and 1..Bb7. How to defend? White is up an exchange and a pawn, but the light colored squares around white's king are weak. At a cursory glance, it seems that white's king is weaker than the black counter part. Both the weakness of the king and the material advantage indicate that a queen trade on e2 is a good idéa, and it is actually forced due to the mate threat on e8: 1.Qe2 Qc6 2.Qe7+ Kf8 3.Qe8 Qxe8 4.Rxe8#. I then caclulated the following variation: 1.Qe2 Qxe2 2.Rxe2 bxa4 3.b3 axb3 4.Rb2 Be6 5.c4 d5 6.Rxb3 dxc4 7.dxc4 Bxc4 8.Rc3 Be6 9.Rxc5 which I evaluate to be equal because all the pawns are on the same side and black has no weaknesses. This variation is by no means forced, but it shows that white must be very careful not to trade all the pawns on the queenside. These variation made me think that maybe white's king isn't that weak after all and black's king is also weak on the back rank, so maybe white doesn't have to trade queens at least not immediately. I then looked at 1.Re3 Qc6 2.a5 Bb7 3.f3, but thought it was somewhat unclear. White is better but is it winning? Then I looked at 1.Re3 Qc6 2.axb5 Qxb5 3.d4 with the idéa of Qe4. Here, the following candidates for black presented themselves: 3..cxd4, 3..Bb7, 3..Be6, 3..Qc6, and 3..g6. This is what I calculated: 3..cxd4 4.Qe4 Qd7 (4..g6 5.Qe8+ Kg7 6.Qxc8 and white is up a full rook, or 4..Bd7 5.Qe7+ Kg8 6.Qd8+ Be8 7.Rxe8+ Qxe8 8.Qxe8#) 5.Qxd4 and I think white wins here due to the newly minted passed pawn on b2; 3..Bb7 4.c4 Qc6 5.d5 and white wins; 3..Be6 4.Qe4 Qb8 5.d5 and white wins; 3..Qc6 4.Qe4 Qxe4 5.Rxe4 and white wins; 3..g6 4.Qe4 Bb7 5.d5 Qxb2 6.c4 and white wins. Based on the variations given above, I would play 1.Re3 instead of the natural 1.Qe2. This homework problem was a hard one to do. After this video, I think I understand a lot more of why a coach is so important and why using an engine is not helping. The video was a joy to watch. Thank you so much.

    • @mohammadnaufal1027
      @mohammadnaufal1027 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very good and detailed analysis 👍
      I agree with you, that 1. Re3 is better than 1. Qe2.
      Honestly, move 1. Qe2 was come to my mind first ☺

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for your detailed analysis as always! 1. Re3 is objectively stronger, but I would play 1. Qe2, forcing a queen trade. The resulting endgame is a technical win for White.

    • @jonnyjansson7320
      @jonnyjansson7320 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1.Qe2 was the first move I thought of. If I was low on time in a classical game or if it was a rapid or blitz game, I would have played it. I would have noticed the possibility of 1.Re3, but I would have rejected it because it is very complicated to calculate with limited time.

    • @jonnyjansson7320
      @jonnyjansson7320 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the feedback. When you say that the resulting endgame is a technical win are you refering to the position at the end of my variation with rook vs bishop and tre pawns each on the kingside, or are you refering to the endgame after 1.Qe2 Qxe2 2.Rxe2 ?

  • @Woodflooralchemist
    @Woodflooralchemist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Re3 for last position. Double up on the e file after queen moves

    • @Woodflooralchemist
      @Woodflooralchemist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or maybe even better is Qe2, doubling up on the e file right away. If the queens are traded, play the end game up the exchange.

    • @tobiass3540
      @tobiass3540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Woodflooralchemist Qe2 is definitely the practical approach. The queen trade is forced, because otherwise it's checkmate after something like, Qe2 - Qc6 - Qe7+ - Kg8 - Qe8+ - Qxe8 - Rxe8#

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent!

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True!

  • @abhibhavkumar1729
    @abhibhavkumar1729 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Homework Solution : Qe2 he has to take Qxe2 Rxe2 and white will due to exchange up like re4 after bxa4
    Very instructive video Thanks!

    • @irjake
      @irjake 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's my answer too - force the queen trade to remove all mate threats, grind out the win.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beautiful!

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great!@@irjake

  • @mohammadnaufal1027
    @mohammadnaufal1027 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Inspiring chess lecture as usual 👍👍

  • @nickdoody5291
    @nickdoody5291 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In that first position, White can also set a little trap with 1.g3, which takes care of the mate threat but seems to allow 1...Nf3+ 2.Kg2 Nd2, forking the Rooks. However, after 3.Rfe1, Black doesn't have time to take the b1 Rook because of the threat of Re8 mate, and after Black takes care of it with a move like 3...Kf8 or 3...g6, White can play 4.Rbd1 and the Knight is trapped.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for this nice observation!

  • @chimbiepaladin4629
    @chimbiepaladin4629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its very interesting how the computer doesn't differentiate between a line that gives ALL the winning chances to black, but white can hold with computer level accuracy, or a line that gives NO winning chances to black, that white has a million ways to play that black can MAYBE hold with only computer level accuracy. It really makes me reavaluate the usefullness of such things.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said! A care is required when interpreting engine lines.

    • @chimbiepaladin4629
      @chimbiepaladin4629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The thing that I am realizing is without an expert telling me which engine lines are even worth looking at, One cant even tell if the engine recommendation is 3500 elo level to understand or 1800.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely, it is good to have expert guidance there so you don't get overwhelmed.@@chimbiepaladin4629

  • @cristiantudorescu9153
    @cristiantudorescu9153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Very instructive! 🙏🏻🏅

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure, thank you!

  • @Aramalisadventures
    @Aramalisadventures 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever you have material advantage, try to trade smartly in order to simplify the position and win easily!
    1.Qe2 forces Black to trade the queens due to back rank checkmate while Black doesn’t have any defense against it!
    Greetings from Beirut, Lebanon!
    Thank you for this video!

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Excellent! Greetings to Beirut!

  • @gregdanford359
    @gregdanford359 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Over time, I have learned to greatly appreciate your work.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am very happy to hear it, thank you! Really motivating words.

  • @lyingcat9022
    @lyingcat9022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:00 Yeah I like Re3 kicking the queen with the ability to push f2 blocking the diagonal and give the king luff. And as a bonus get the king one square closer for when a heavy or two get traded off. Then maybe swing the queen around the queen side to harass the pawns and king all up on there side.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Would you prefer it over Qe2 in a practical game?

    • @lyingcat9022
      @lyingcat9022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dr.CansClinicyeah naw probably best to keep it simple and force queens off and play against the bishop. Create a passer and win that way.
      Less risk than dueling queens where you might make a mistake and give counter play.

  • @hiwibaba22
    @hiwibaba22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another piece of gold given to us by Dr Can. Btw how can we contact you for private lessons (perhaps summer 2024?)

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! You can contact me on chesscom(link in video description) so we can discuss further.

  • @MrMauPat
    @MrMauPat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's always a pleasure to watch your videos as no matter what I am forced to learn something.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is so motivating to hear, thank you so much 🙏

  • @AgentSmith-w8s
    @AgentSmith-w8s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The doctor is in the house,and he prescribes a chess coach (or his chessable courses) Super instructive as always...

  • @fitzciaran
    @fitzciaran 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can confess I played rook e1 for the wrong reasons in the first position!
    We're very close to such ideas being covered in game analysis now though it's just a matter of idea presentation, I even remember my old chessmaster "natural language" analysis from decades ago reading out the key threats from a move as it went through game analysis so it would read "Ra6 threatening Ne2 check followed by mate. Re1 preventing Ne2 check and threatening checkmate on e8" I think this highlights the value of human coaching but also of mindful use of the tools we have, we can get a lot more out of them if we are!

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your honest feedback! Accompanying the moves with the key threats they present is a great way to annotate games as you said. This makes it easier to internalize the right thought process whenever your opponent makes a move.

  • @MazenLababidi
    @MazenLababidi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Qe2 is good, I thought of it , but also Im considering Re3 followd by Qe2 then Pxb5 or Pa5, It needs further analysis

  • @ThortheMerciless
    @ThortheMerciless 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black threatens mate in 2 in two ways: Bh3 and Bb7 (the latter is important, as, for instance, it stops d4, intending Qe4 after Bh3). So, White needs to find a forcing move. I note that if White can exchange Qs he has a won ending, and further note that Black's K is also vulnerable to mate on the back rank, as the Re1 cuts off escape to e7.
    The obvious idea is to threaten the Black Q, which means Qd1, Qe2 and Re3. As Qe2 also threatens Qe8# it seems the obvious try. If Black plays Qc6 covering e8 you can play Qe7+ Kg8 Qe8+ Qxe8 Rxe8#. Thus Black is forced to exchange Qs and we win the ending. Re3 prevents mate as after Q moves we can play f3, while Qd1 will also allow f3 - but in neither case have we made any progress towards winning the game.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent, thanks!

  • @ndrcntrl
    @ndrcntrl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Are you currently offering coaching?

  • @heremansmarc
    @heremansmarc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent!

  • @Joetjoeppuntkom
    @Joetjoeppuntkom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought all of your courses on Chessable. They’re pretty hard to me, so it’s more than a good lesson. Basically you’re my human coach now 😊

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love it! If they get too overwhelming, you can tackle them at a later stage. Or you can just read my explanations and deeply engage with the right steps for the solution.

  • @jimmccann3856
    @jimmccann3856 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmm... Qe2 forks the Mate Threat and the Q swap. And Qc3? is an imperfect solution due to Qe7+ bumping the K back, and Qe8+ ->#

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Qe2 is excellent!

  • @KF1
    @KF1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great video! 17:49 I would be low on time here, and instantly play Qe2. It makes a mate threat and offers a queen trade, whereupon I would be up the exchange. Only later would I overthink it, wishing for just one more tempo to play axb first, preventing the retreat of qc6 to where the black queen can guard e8 and threaten bishop h3. But where is the extra tempo in this move? It doesn't exist due to black's bishop h3.
    I would also look at Re3, attacking their queen, but give up on that again due to qc6 :/ maybe h4 then, calculation unclear.
    One good sample line would go qe2, qc6, h4, bxa, qe4. Good enough. Holding full control of the e file, persisting with the queen trade offer, and taking the sting out of bh3. It might not be best but how much time is left on the clock for white?

    • @KF1
      @KF1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edited, wrote some wrong notation. Fixed

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love this analysis! Qe2 is such a human move, and should be played short of time as well!

    • @KF1
      @KF1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dr.CansClinic Thank you. You are a great teacher and help me to make clear decisions. Much appreciate the videos

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KF1 ❤

  • @chimbiepaladin4629
    @chimbiepaladin4629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just really want to thank you for these lessons. The other day I played a long time control game. I'm 1925 lichess against a 1700 lower opponent. He tried to exchange pieces I'm assuming because I am a stronger player, and he thought that by trading queens and a few pieces, he would be able to draw. But I was so happy to see this. He traded his good bishop, and then traded queens and the thing I'm very proud of is I noticed it... and then organized my ENTIRE game around the fact that he was left with a bad bishop. I locked the position, and squeezed him to death. He probably thought it was drawn to the very end, until his rook literally had no more squares to move. It was the best game I ever played. But why I am thanking you is because I felt SO on top, even though he probably couldn't even now put a reason to why he lost the game. And when I was playing, I was talking to myself just like you teach us. What is my opponent's threats/oversights. What is my DREAM position. I asked this many times. How can I entomb his? I made sure I didn't suffocate any of my pieces, and it was a great game. So I really appreciate all you are doing here.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is so amazing to hear, thank you! It is good to internalize the voice of your coach while playing 😅 It sounds like you used the art of exchanging pieces and burying pieces' patterns. And you aimed for dream positions! That is what I preach in my positional courses on Chessable.

    • @chimbiepaladin4629
      @chimbiepaladin4629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I am going through all of them 🙏

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is great to hear!@@chimbiepaladin4629

  • @your_average_joe5781
    @your_average_joe5781 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are so right about engine analysis. They don't tell you why !!
    Maybe in the near future engine's will explain the moves with artificial intelligence 🤔
    So I would start with Re3 , Qb7, pxb5, Bh3, f4, Qxb5, Qe2. That's as far as I can see 😢
    You come up with some great examples ✅

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much for your kind comment! Can you see an alternative to Re3? Re3 is an excellent move by the way!

  • @eschiedler
    @eschiedler 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    homework spoiler - no engine
    Black threatens Bh3 then Qg2# mate in two. The defense of white's king is weak on the white squares.
    One option is to force the Queen trade. Qe2 threatens checkmate.
    Qe2 Qc6 Qe7+ Kg8 Qe8+ Qxe8 Rxe8#
    After the queen trade, Qe2 Qxe2 Rxe2 bxa4, white can activate their king more quickly and has most of their pawns on dark squares to neutralize black's light square bishop. It should be a smooth winning endgame for white.
    Another option is to avoid the queen trade with Re3 Qc6 axb5 Qxb5 Qe2 Bd7.
    Also, Re3 Qc6 a5 Bb7 (threatens checkmate on g2 and h1) f3.
    The forced queen trade appears to lead to a winning end-game for white. Forcing the queen back with the rook allows black to consolidate and regain activity which still leaves black weak but not as helpless as in the queen trade line.
    edit add: If the time is really low on the clock, a rook vs very weak bishop endgame is super easy to play quickly, even favoring the queen trade further.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your excellent analysis as always!

  • @raytraylor1633
    @raytraylor1633 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First, do you offer coaching? If not, how should I get the right coach?

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am on a busy schedule, but you can contact me on chess.com (link in the video description), so we can discuss. You have to try and find a good fit. A good coach should listen to you and address your needs. They don't need to be so much stronger than you.

    • @raytraylor1633
      @raytraylor1633 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dr.CansClinic Thanks for your response and all the training you do! I will reach out to you privately.

  • @manuelfuentes4509
    @manuelfuentes4509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Homework: Qe2 looks human to me... to trade Queens and convert with exchange up.

  • @moosewild4239
    @moosewild4239 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep saw the attack but not the threat

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am happy that I made you realize this issue ☺️ We are still relevant after all!

  • @mikkelhansen3714
    @mikkelhansen3714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Homework positions human solution has to be Qe2 FORCING a queen trade so we never have to worry about getting mated due to our weak light squares. Yes, we will lose the a4 pawn but who cares? we have an exchange as a rook for a bishop and will probably end up converting the position into a full point:) No need to be fancy here

  • @comeonyourions
    @comeonyourions 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Whyyyyyyyyyyy?

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is always a great question! Whyyyyyyyyyy?

  • @day-bu2ms
    @day-bu2ms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your student's elo?

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where in the video?

  • @abhisheksrivastava-im3lm
    @abhisheksrivastava-im3lm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    does playing short games like blitz(10 min) can make me a weaker player

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think playing fast games make you a weaker player. But I also believe you need a slow medium to apply newly learned ideas.

  • @chimbiepaladin4629
    @chimbiepaladin4629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HOMEWORK ANSWER: Qe2 looks really nice. Sacing the pawn, but I'm up an exchange so who cares. Qe2 threatens mate so they MUST trade queens, then I lose the pawn. If they move Qc6 then axb5 and I'm still winning. Oops. nope. I still have mate. Qe7 followed by Qe8 is a back rank mate. So yeah... they actually have to trade queens But its not such a big deal losing that pawn. I can even consider sacing the rook on a4 later and taking back with my king and using my queenside pawn majority. I can also consider using the rook to push d4 later and trying to gang up on the backward d pawn. I'd feel pretty confident . I can even keep the enemy king off the queenside and move my king over there and harass their bishop and the rest of their pawns. They have three pawns on the back rank, so their king has to watch out for me going to the seventh. I can attack them on the e file and then maybe shift up to the fifth rank maybe. I can maybe prepare to push b3 and undermine their pawn. Who knows, but there Are SO many winning resources for white there, I can't even name them all, but black has to hold on for dear life. Also... axb5 loses to Bb7. Qd1 doesn't lose, but it doesn't force a queen trade, which would be nice for black. I really hate to lose that pawn, because I will have to work for a win, but black is seriously dangerous here if nothing is done on those weak white sqares.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent! Thank you for your detailed analysis!

  • @jorgemonasterio8361
    @jorgemonasterio8361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay. Good argument against the ai.

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! 🙏

  • @NidusFormicarum
    @NidusFormicarum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Give me a coach for free then! ...or give me students of my own (under 1400) so I can afford it .

    • @Dr.CansClinic
      @Dr.CansClinic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is no free lunch in the universe.