I flew it today at our club's warbird meet and the P47 and the radial was a big hit. I had to fly it several times to appease the masses. It's hard work but somebody has to do it....
That was just the best R/C video I've ever watched... I really appreciate your narration. And yes, the aftermarket manifold sounds so cool! Thanx so very much and... cheers
You have a very pleasant voice for narrating videos like these. It was easy to bond as a listener to a mentor. I could learn a lot from you! I subscribed with :) :) :)
Oh gotcha. Just rebuilt my old DLE 55. New ring and bearings, pulling harder than ever in my Extreme Flight 88 in Yak. Great to see your doing well! love your vids, keep up the great work!
I have to say, i love your review... well explained and narrated. I like the way you discuss what and why you did things in the video! Great job! (and no cheesy music just the pure sound of the motor)
Great sounding Engine, tons of power too. I can tell you are an old school mechanic by the care you are taking in breaking her in. Beautiful job my friend.... (It's just too bad you are a Packer Fan)! SKOL!! from a Viking fan neighbor..
No, no damn motley Crue, no humming, leave it like it is. why in the hell would anybody want to hear music over sweet sound of an engine is way beyond me.
Excellent video and oooh my that radial just sounds delightful thank you for testing both exhaust systems the ring exhaust thuds the air beautifully 😍 absolute music to any petrol head 😀 topman.
Apparently, even though this is a 4 stroke engine, it requires oil premixed into the fuel. The owners manual states, "Regular gasoline：Oil＝20:1 (Volume ratio)" For break in, instead of a rich mixture, why not just add a bit more oil?
As far as RC 4-stroke engines go, just about all of the commercially available ones use a fuel/oil mix. They are not like the 4-stroke lawn mower or automotive engines that keep their oil in a sump. The rich mixture may be recommended to control the engine temperature during break in rather than to add more lubrication.
Critical Altitude I see. You mean 4 stroke model aircraft engines, including radials. I was thinking more on the lines of the full scale radial engines like those I worked on, many years ago in the Navy. The Wright R-3350 and R-1820 In the SP-2H and US-2B respectively. Several of the P-2 aircraft went to Argentina and one to the Navy museum in Pensacola Fla. We used to joke about restoring antique aircraft. This was circa 1973... www.navalaviationmuseum.org/attractions/aircraft-exhibits/item/?item=sp-2h_neptune
Yep, the model engines like the Saito are far simpler than the radials in the full size aircraft. There are examples of functioning small radial engines that are scaled down versions of the originals, but those are typically not used on aircraft. I've seen the P-2 at the Pensacola museum when I visited. Great place with a huge variety of aircraft and historical pieces.
Not sure if you're retired or still working. But if things don't work out for you you definitely should be narrating anything on TV. I'm not even into airplanes and that was fantastic I watched the whole thing. Great job!
I’m surprised you checked all the fixings on a Saito! I have the triple along with 5 others, some 35 years old, I’d never check a Saito engine bolts, I have so much faith in their engineering.
Very nice video. Thanks! I'm off to the 65th (Wow) Toledo Expo Saturday. (I think I have been to better than half of them. All the way back when they were at the Sports Arena.) I will likely return with the 33cc version for my GP Waco ARF that has been in the box to way long. Like you, I love the sound of a round engine.
Great video Thintz, liked your narrative over all the footage, well done and happy landings. (I always was a Saito fan when I flew...they make great engines)
Hello Tom, Papa Sal here from Reno....Still building...er.... assembling my GoldWing Pitts Python. Really leaning towards this awesome engine....and then HOLD ON Saito just launched a FG- 73 R5!!!!! WHAT??!! Boy I can't wait to see all the specs for this engine. Looking at what I CAN find it'll fit! But the weight specs are a miss print, but the you tube video teaser is awesome too! Again I want to thank you for ALL the info videos you do......Please keep them coming. OBTW Horizon Hobby has pre orders for October on the new radial.......GULP!!! $2k ouch!
Ok, I get it, you review lots of stuff. Not a casual RC nut like the rest of us. Thanks for the reviews. I think I'm going to love that Radial. I am putting it in my Byrons Staggerwing.
It's not SAYTO, you pronounce the company name like SIGH TO. I should know, I'm married to a beautiful Japanese woman. As far as being powerful enough for your Yak, it looks to be exactly the right engine. Nice balance and almost scale like flying. Nice job.....
Another great vid. Very informative. My long term goal is to install one of these in a warbird and enjoy the experience. Your review has really given me insight on what to look for in a good quality gas radial. Kudo's sir! Subscribed.
Great video Fantastic I was wondering about your prop selection . Has the notion of a 3 blade prop come to you at all I've got a good friend who fly's and his Old Sea fury really came alive with the 3 blade prop using your exact same engine .and it gave the aircraft that great authentic look .. Great flying ..
I have been having good luck with the traditional 2-blade props. the biggest reason I don;t experiment with a three-blade prop is cost. I pay for everything myself so that kind of outlay impacts everything else in the flow of content for my site.
I really really like your videos. Extremely helpful. I have a Balsa USA SPAD 13 with a 35cc DLE. Would this Saito 60 R3 be too much for this plane? Thanks.
Great video! Starting from narration, going through flying and ending on editing. I would like to also use this engine on my next project. What can you tell about it after some time? Is it worth it? Does it work good? Thx in advance.
Nice looking engine, looks like a fun hobby. I agree the new exhaust sounded much better, did it add any performance as well? I am also curious as to what engine size is recommended for the plane, if some people didn't think it would have enough power to get it off the ground? Thanks in advance for answering, Tom
The plane is designed for a 40 to 50cc engine, the Saito is a 60cc. There is a belief that the multiple cylinder engines produce less power per cc than do the single cylinder engines. So far that has not proven to be true with this engine.
Thanks for the reply. I have never heard that theory before... I guess the belief being twice (or more depending on # of cylinders) the friction from con rods, rings, valve train and such, robs the engine of power. However, I would think it false, as we all are driving multi cylinder vehicles, as opposed to 350 cubic inch 1 cylinder thumpers in our trucks and cars. Were there even any single cylinder aircraft produced? Maybe they are only referring to models, but I would think parasitic power loss issues would be there regardless of scale size.... Thanks again, and have fun with the plane..
Jeffrey314159 four stroke motors need odd number of cylinders, as the cam is actually a ring disk with the gear on the inside. The cam for this 3-cyl has two lobes for intake at 180 degrees, and two at 180 degrees positioned 90 to this. A five cylinder would have four lobes set at 90, and so on. The gear on the crank and the planetary gears set the ratio to the internal cam gear to make this 120 degree fire symmetrical and balanced which is not possible with an even number of cylinders.....If we go Two-Stroke however it doesn't matter and even will work because it fire's every stroke. I not only have a radial engine like this, I 3d-printed a working "visible" 5 cyl moki-radial engine that demonstrates this on four-strokes.
This is the first Saito I have had in 30-some years. I can say that lots of people are flying various models of their engines and they keep selling. There has to be a reason for that kind of longevity!
Great video!! Many thanks. I am breaking in my FG60 R3 and following manual instructions. However when I rich and make full throttle the cylinder #3 does not fire…. Is it normal? Should I rotate the engine for break in? I appreciate any help, thanks
Since I've had just one of these, I really can't say what is normal or not. I didn't have those issues with mine and just followed the manufacturers instructions.
All cylinder should be firing at all times . Just my two cents, make sure the valves are adjusted correctly, that the engine firing order is working right and the carb is adjusted right.
Thank you so much for the reply. Sorry for the questions but your setup sounds amazing. So... what oil and ratio? And finally, stock exhaust vs aftermarket ring? Thanks ahain
There is a story about me shoving this engine in my P47 with lots of flying there. I am scrambling right now trying to finish a bunch of stories but none of those on the radial as I just keep flying that whenever I get some time.
Hallo Tom, are you still happy with this engine. On Internet there are a lot of people who say it isn't a good motor and need an update from Morris Mini Motors from England. Personely I don't believe that because Saito is knowing what they are doing. Please send me a comment. Greatings from Holland.
I never had an issue with this motor and it was box stock the whole time. Flew it on three different planes, no problem. As far as I know it is still flying in the 91", 30-pound Waco with the guy I sold it to, stock, no modifications.
Good point Arthur, I was thinking the same when I saw this video, specially because my local hobby shop has this engine on sale and I was reluctant to buy it because all I read about the wrong spark advance that comes from the factory and also about the intake problems and the corrections that are needed and Morris is selling. But apparently Saito decreased the compression ratio changing with a new piston and also reinforced the base of the cylinder, so something might have been wrong for them. Who knows were the truth is, may be in between Morris solution and the new Saito modifications?
@@alejandromascitti541 I had lots of people telling me this engine is not able to do what I was doing with it. On the Internet, facts matter little apparently. I even had a guy tell me "he could clearly see a DA70 in the cowl" in the video. I checked with everyone at th3e field when we made that video and none of them will own up to swapping the Saito out for a DA. Whoever did that, also swapped the DA out for the Saito before I left. I guess I have sneaky friends.
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Extremely well explained and filmed. I found this vid to be very interesting and well done...and I'm not even an RC guy.
Same here. I was just searching for different engines and am more interested in engines for mini bikes. This is very cool though. Excellent video.
I've always loved Radial Engines, There is just something special about them and I love the way they sound.
I flew it today at our club's warbird meet and the P47 and the radial was a big hit. I had to fly it several times to appease the masses. It's hard work but somebody has to do it....
thintz12
I wish I could have been there.
One of the best engine review videos I've ever watched. Poignant, simple, good sound, and a great model as well.
I have this mental movie right now of FOUR of those powering a scale model B-17, the sound would be AWESOME!
I flew the radial/P47 on July 4th, earlier this week. Sometimes I just gotta hear that radial in the sky.
That was just the best R/C video I've ever watched... I really appreciate your
narration. And yes, the aftermarket manifold sounds so cool!
Thanx so very much and...
cheers
I've been in love with these for so long. Now that I'm getting back into RC, I feel the need for one again.
You have a very pleasant voice for narrating videos like these. It was easy to bond as a listener to a mentor. I could learn a lot from you! I subscribed with :) :) :)
Oh gotcha. Just rebuilt my old DLE 55. New ring and bearings, pulling harder than ever in my Extreme Flight 88 in Yak. Great to see your doing well! love your vids, keep up the great work!
You have a fine touch with the flight controls doing aerobatics and you greased the two landings I saw. Good video, I'm subscribing.
I have to say, i love your review... well explained and narrated. I like the way you discuss what and why you did things in the video! Great job! (and no cheesy music just the pure sound of the motor)
Sounds like a real aircraft. I have a Saito radial as well, only in a Boeing PT-17 Super Stearman. Gotta love it.
Great sounding Engine, tons of power too. I can tell you are an old school mechanic by the care you are taking in breaking her in.
Beautiful job my friend.... (It's just too bad you are a Packer Fan)! SKOL!! from a Viking fan neighbor..
My first motorcycle was a 1959 Honda 65 cc. It drug me up and down the street just fine. Very cool sound on the exhaust.
Very nice video. but one thing that made it much better than many other RC videos was that you had NO FREAKING MUSIC. Big thumbs up.
So I don't need to hire the guys from Motley Crue? I can;t afford that anyway. Maybe I'll take up humming...
No, no damn motley Crue, no humming, leave it like it is. why in the hell would anybody want to hear music over sweet sound of an engine is way beyond me.
I just installed a brand new Saito 60 on my Fairchild 24.....thanx for the info!
Excellent video and oooh my that radial just sounds delightful thank you for testing both exhaust systems the ring exhaust thuds the air beautifully 😍 absolute music to any petrol head 😀 topman.
Watching this video I can't help imagining how cool this engine configuration would be on a motorbike, probably with the crank facing fore-aft.
I think ive watched this video 20 or 30 times and i like it more every time. Im only a couple of weeks away from ordering one. Gotta gave one!
The way you do your videos is excellent. Great commentary- always on point! Thanks
Apparently, even though this is a 4 stroke engine, it requires oil premixed into the fuel. The owners manual states, "Regular gasoline：Oil＝20:1 (Volume ratio)" For break in, instead of a rich mixture, why not just add a bit more oil?
As far as RC 4-stroke engines go, just about all of the commercially available ones use a fuel/oil mix. They are not like the 4-stroke lawn mower or automotive engines that keep their oil in a sump. The rich mixture may be recommended to control the engine temperature during break in rather than to add more lubrication.
Critical Altitude
I see. You mean 4 stroke model aircraft engines, including radials. I was thinking more on the lines of the full scale radial engines like those I worked on, many years ago in the Navy. The Wright R-3350 and R-1820 In the SP-2H and US-2B respectively. Several of the P-2 aircraft went to Argentina and one to the Navy museum in Pensacola Fla. We used to joke about restoring antique aircraft. This was circa 1973...
www.navalaviationmuseum.org/attractions/aircraft-exhibits/item/?item=sp-2h_neptune
Yep, the model engines like the Saito are far simpler than the radials in the full size aircraft. There are examples of functioning small radial engines that are scaled down versions of the originals, but those are typically not used on aircraft. I've seen the P-2 at the Pensacola museum when I visited. Great place with a huge variety of aircraft and historical pieces.
The extra fuel when run in a rich condition goes a long way to keeping the internal parts of the engine cooler as they wear in to each other.
Not sure if you're retired or still working. But if things don't work out for you you definitely should be narrating anything on TV. I'm not even into airplanes and that was fantastic I watched the whole thing. Great job!
I’m surprised you checked all the fixings on a Saito! I have the triple along with 5 others, some 35 years old, I’d never check a Saito engine bolts, I have so much faith in their engineering.
Beautiful engine, nice airplane, and an excellent demonstration of flying skills.
Nice ... very, VERY nice! Doesn't it sound wonderful? Really good video Sir - Happy Flying.
Very nice video. Thanks! I'm off to the 65th (Wow) Toledo Expo Saturday. (I think I have been to better than half of them. All the way back when they were at the Sports Arena.) I will likely return with the 33cc version for my GP Waco ARF that has been in the box to way long. Like you, I love the sound of a round engine.
You have a great review style. Really thorough and full of information. Thanks!
very well narrated, well executed video, thank you
Great video Thintz, liked your narrative over all the footage, well done and happy landings. (I always was a Saito fan when I flew...they make great engines)
Very interesting video of your radial engine.
this made me smile.
Hello Tom, Papa Sal here from Reno....Still building...er.... assembling my GoldWing Pitts Python. Really leaning towards this awesome engine....and then HOLD ON Saito just launched a FG- 73 R5!!!!! WHAT??!! Boy I can't wait to see all the specs for this engine. Looking at what I CAN find it'll fit! But the weight specs are a miss print, but the you tube video teaser is awesome too! Again I want to thank you for ALL the info videos you do......Please keep them coming. OBTW Horizon Hobby has pre orders for October on the new radial.......GULP!!! $2k ouch!
That is a good running engine, and really sounds good with the after market exaust and you seem to be a really good pilot.
Amazing sounding engine. May have to sell my kids on the black market so I can get one LOL. Nice bit of flying sir.
Great Video ,Great explained,well filmed 👍👍👍👍👍
This is beautiful. My 66 beetle with an after market exhaust, kind of has a similar sound.
Super cool....Id love to see those engines being built (Im a machinist). Really nice looking engine, sounds great!
Nice work. I have the glow version with the keleo exhaust on a yak 54m fabulous to fly and hear. Have a great day, happy flying.
Great video, thanks for posting. Looking forward to part 2.
Great sounding motor. GO PACK!
That's one of the best things I've seen today.
Doesn't she sing pretty!!!! VERY nice engine ... I'm so jealous!
I have 5 of these engines on my bicycle, Harley Davidsons get out of my way when they hear me coming.
Slickest landing you'll see
Just started the hobby 2 years flying electric. This radial engine is turning me on.
Now get three of them and build a Ford Tri-Motor, please. Thanks for the video.
Love that sound!
That motor is so cool sounds nice ,and probably cost a bunch too.
Ok, I get it, you review lots of stuff. Not a casual RC nut like the rest of us. Thanks for the reviews. I think I'm going to love that Radial. I am putting it in my Byrons Staggerwing.
Excellent video and commentary my friend.
The motor is one thing, but the pilot is awesome.
Its the suspenders...
that sounds beautiful
Great. I already use redline synthetic for my shifter kart. I thought I read somewhere that they recommend between 15 and 20:1
another great video, thanks for your hard work.
It's not SAYTO, you pronounce the company name like SIGH TO. I should know, I'm married to a beautiful Japanese woman. As far as being powerful enough for your Yak, it looks to be exactly the right engine. Nice balance and almost scale like flying. Nice job.....
Another great vid. Very informative. My long term goal is to install one of these in a warbird and enjoy the experience. Your review has really given me insight on what to look for in a good quality gas radial. Kudo's sir! Subscribed.
That is a fantastic sounding motor
Lovely video, thanks for putting this together and sharing. Awesome motor.🖒
What a great review you have done! Well Done!
great brake in time ,nice,n slow! sounds GOOD to!
Cool vid, thank you for sharing.
Great video and humor slays me! Two thumbs up!
Super jealous Tom! Nice video again brother.
Saito engine ,one of the most popular and respectable
Great video Fantastic I was wondering about your prop selection . Has the notion of a 3 blade prop come to you at all I've got a good friend who fly's and his Old Sea fury really came alive with the 3 blade prop using your exact same engine .and it gave the aircraft that great authentic look .. Great flying ..
I have been having good luck with the traditional 2-blade props. the biggest reason I don;t experiment with a three-blade prop is cost. I pay for everything myself so that kind of outlay impacts everything else in the flow of content for my site.
very well done review. Thanks for posting.
I really really like your videos. Extremely helpful. I have a Balsa USA SPAD 13 with a 35cc DLE. Would this Saito 60 R3 be too much for this plane? Thanks.
I really don't know anything about that plane. I'd suggest pulsing the folks at Balsa USA for the real info on that combination.
This Old man mean business...
You're lucky I have mellowed in my old age! And, stay off my grass!
An interesting video, very well done
Nice sound...
That is a nice sounding engine!
Great video! Starting from narration, going through flying and ending on editing. I would like to also use this engine on my next project. What can you tell about it after some time? Is it worth it? Does it work good? Thx in advance.
i like the soundof it
NICE BREAK-IN... REAL "engine guy"
Best engine review ever.
Actually, I am a Harley believer... a believer in bolting up a basket on every Harley to catch all the parts that fall off...
May a diseased Yak leave a series of disappointing bowel movements across your yard...
Good job, I watched it several times
The carb is kind of like what you see on some nitro motors.
Sounds fantastic!
Really enjoyed your commentary
Nice looking engine, looks like a fun hobby. I agree the new exhaust sounded much better, did it add any performance as well? I am also curious as to what engine size is recommended for the plane, if some people didn't think it would have enough power to get it off the ground? Thanks in advance for answering, Tom
The plane is designed for a 40 to 50cc engine, the Saito is a 60cc. There is a belief that the multiple cylinder engines produce less power per cc than do the single cylinder engines. So far that has not proven to be true with this engine.
Thanks for the reply. I have never heard that theory before... I guess the belief being twice (or more depending on # of cylinders) the friction from con rods, rings, valve train and such, robs the engine of power. However, I would think it false, as we all are driving multi cylinder vehicles, as opposed to 350 cubic inch 1 cylinder thumpers in our trucks and cars. Were there even any single cylinder aircraft produced? Maybe they are only referring to models, but I would think parasitic power loss issues would be there regardless of scale size.... Thanks again, and have fun with the plane..
Awesome sounding engine,
sweet motor , plane and great video ....liked subbed.....j
Sounds like you are reading a script....cool motor....the plane is awesome too....that motor should have several horsepower.
I have the Saito 20cc radial.Should I do the same break in process as u did?I hope mine sounds close to yours,awesome plane too.
nice engine
Why is it important for these Radial Engines to have an odd number of pistons/cylinders? Is it necessary to create a differential with this asymmetry?
In the radial engine, they fire from no 1 then every 2nd cylinder after that
Jeffrey314159 four stroke motors need odd number of cylinders, as the cam is actually a ring disk with the gear on the inside. The cam for this 3-cyl has two lobes for intake at 180 degrees, and two at 180 degrees positioned 90 to this. A five cylinder would have four lobes set at 90, and so on. The gear on the crank and the planetary gears set the ratio to the internal cam gear to make this 120 degree fire symmetrical and balanced which is not possible with an even number of cylinders.....If we go Two-Stroke however it doesn't matter and even will work because it fire's every stroke. I not only have a radial engine like this, I 3d-printed a working "visible" 5 cyl moki-radial engine that demonstrates this on four-strokes.
Well done. Is this your first experience with Saito engines? If not ,can you report on the single and twin cylinder models?
This is the first Saito I have had in 30-some years. I can say that lots of people are flying various models of their engines and they keep selling. There has to be a reason for that kind of longevity!
enjoyed this video very much, thanks for posting! ... and subbed
Sounds wonderful!
great plane
Sweet Landing!
Great video!! Many thanks. I am breaking in my FG60 R3 and following manual instructions. However when I rich and make full throttle the cylinder #3 does not fire…. Is it normal? Should I rotate the engine for break in? I appreciate any help, thanks
Since I've had just one of these, I really can't say what is normal or not. I didn't have those issues with mine and just followed the manufacturers instructions.
All cylinder should be firing at all times . Just my two cents, make sure the valves are adjusted correctly, that the engine firing order is working right and the carb is adjusted right.
good video sir.
put like 6 of thos inline and have a hella fast go kart
This is nice-- wonder how one would work on a Helicopter ?
Thank you so much for the reply. Sorry for the questions but your setup sounds amazing. So... what oil and ratio? And finally, stock exhaust vs aftermarket ring? Thanks ahain
I use nothing but Redline Syntetic Racing Oil and for the radial around 40 to 1
Fantastic video!
We are due an update on this unit. Are you about ready to give it to us?
: - )
There is a story about me shoving this engine in my P47 with lots of flying there. I am scrambling right now trying to finish a bunch of stories but none of those on the radial as I just keep flying that whenever I get some time.
Thank you. I look forward to it, as soon as you have time.
Hallo Tom, are you still happy with this engine. On Internet there are a lot of people who say it isn't a good motor and need an update from Morris Mini Motors from England. Personely I don't believe that because Saito is knowing what they are doing. Please send me a comment. Greatings from Holland.
I never had an issue with this motor and it was box stock the whole time. Flew it on three different planes, no problem. As far as I know it is still flying in the 91", 30-pound Waco with the guy I sold it to, stock, no modifications.
Good point Arthur, I was thinking the same when I saw this video, specially because my local hobby shop has this engine on sale and I was reluctant to buy it because all I read about the wrong spark advance that comes from the factory and also about the intake problems and the corrections that are needed and Morris is selling. But apparently Saito decreased the compression ratio changing with a new piston and also reinforced the base of the cylinder, so something might have been wrong for them. Who knows were the truth is, may be in between Morris solution and the new Saito modifications?
@@alejandromascitti541 I had lots of people telling me this engine is not able to do what I was doing with it. On the Internet, facts matter little apparently. I even had a guy tell me "he could clearly see a DA70 in the cowl" in the video. I checked with everyone at th3e field when we made that video and none of them will own up to swapping the Saito out for a DA. Whoever did that, also swapped the DA out for the Saito before I left. I guess I have sneaky friends.
Turns out it runs on liquid fuel not gas after all.
And people say TH-cam is a nerd-free segment of society