" it's a jungle of hoses" Actually that was more older cars with all the vacuum lines. That was one of the huge problems with hide away head lights, one leak, no lights haha. New cars are all wires and a sea of plastic as you said.
My GF had one back in the 80's. Same colour. The engine had a problem where it would run fine in first or second, but die when you were in 3rd or 4th. Guess what it was ... the distributor had a dual point set up where it advanced the timing in 1st and 2nd, but the second set was set to retard the timing in 3rd and Top gear. This is required for most any high comp engines to get the most torque. Found out the second set of points were bad. I replaced them, gapped them and it ran great. There was a mechanical switch on the trans to select the point set. Never seen that before, and never seen that again! Cheers! - Sandy
You need a residual pressure valve in the front brake circuit. 2psi for disks. That will stop the pads from receding too far into the calipers and reduce the need for "priming" or double pumping the brake pedal.
Borneoben autocrosses are actually the least of the problem. It’s the most annoying on the street under very light brake situations. In autocross since you stay in second for the majority of the time you can left foot brake, or even just use your left foot to prime the pedal before coming into a braking zone. I’m running a 280ZX master cylinder (7/8” 2 reservoir, single chamber) and have always had issues with proportioning and brake feel. There is NO space for a booster, the master is on the same side of the bay as the intake and exhaust. I have a feeling part of my problem is the proximity of the master to the headers, warm fluid is bad fluid. The next steps on this project involve a new rear end (LSD) and a pedal box with individual masters and a proportioning valve. During this process I’ll also be able to switch the rear lines to braided steel and unify the brake lines (right now they’re steel up front and rubber in back).
ive ran plenty of manual brakes (drum, discs, drums/discs) and the only times i had to double pump is when they werent properly bleed. Always bench bleed and us a proper brake bleeder tool. No issues since i started doing that. Fluid heats up from hard braking as well. I would recommend using as much hardline as possible and having braided for places that require articulation.
My 280zx has a phat heat shield in between the intake/exhaust and the brake master cylinder. Can you heat wrap the exhaust if a shield isn't practical? Might even have added benefits with lower engine bay temps
Man, nothing like the sound of an OHC 4-banger on carbs. I gotta get my GTI project moving again. Totally redone gearbox, Peloquin diff with preload, race steering ratio rack, heim-joint shift linkage, aluminum clutch bushing (no more rubber between pedal and clutch actuator), highest quality flywheel I could buy, stage 2 clutch, and more. It's getting Webers. Gotta love these old "economy" cars. You can build a very mechanically serious car for not a lot of scratch. The downside, at least where I live, is doing everything yourself. Very few people work on cars like these, or at least very few are willing to take the time to do it properly. Kudos to the owner and his dad on a very cool 510 wagon.
I visited Los Angeles the other month and took a day trip to these canyons with a buddy of mine. Let me tell you these videos don't do it justice when it comes to how scary these roads are in real life. The cliffs/lack of barriers are crazy!!
You need to cross the Sierra Nevada on Sherman Pass, Sonora Pass, or take one of the various drives down the Feather River canyons. LA canyons are sketchy, Sierra canyons are arduous. Lol
One of the absolute funnest cars I've ever owned was the 510 wagon. I've owned 15 510s in the past. I have done just about all you can do to them. The funnest ones are always the ones that are near stock. They really go to s*** when you overpower them. Have fun
TheDustyaman I totally agree. Nissan has committed to cvts seemingly more than any automaker. On the good side, they still do offer some manual transmissions, too but I absolutely hate their styling nowadays. It seems like their styling department has been taken over by a bunch of anime animators. Probably the last Nissan that I liked the styling of was the last 240SX.
brian5o they make the lower cars look like the upper car market from last gens. Like Altima looks like last gen maxima. Then the Sentra looks like the last gen Altima. They have lazy styling. They need to be fired and have someone that’s a Nissan nut to change their cars
Matt, When you say SR-20 be clear as there is a big difference between an NA SR20 and a turbo SR-20 DET. A normally aspirated and tuned (read ITBs) 2.0 in a 510 is an amazing experience, and as you know, nothing like a big turbo motor. Love these videos! Keep posting and I'll keep liking.
I love the SR in all forms, I just don’t want one in this car (I have one in my B13 Sentra). If you built a 230hp NA SR you’d be talking about an insane amount of money - both in the motor and the swap. I can get similar power from an over the top L series build and spend less on it and less time swapping the motor in and out of the car.
I found to get rid of that double pump issue you need to A; Bleed the brakes properly and B; pull the calipers off, put something smaller than the disks inbetween the pads and then pump the brake hard up against that, then pry the pads back open just enough to clear the disk, this usually cures it because the dust boots in most cases are causing the pistons to retract, if its the rears causing this, then you have bad adjusters...
The problem arose when I went to Wilwoods calipers up front. There’s a combination of problems including a master cylinder chamber to actual brake size mismatch as well as a heat issue because the master is so close to the headers. It’s all on the list, I’ve just learned to deal with the pedal for the meantime until I decide to go to a different pedal box/master scenario.
I really like the owner of this car. Im a Subaru owner but Ive had a great past with Nissan with my Brother. He has fantastic taste and I loved my Brothers B13 SE-R that He turbo'd and really built out to an amazing autox car. I had a 1980 Corolla 2 door liftback that started my love for old Yota and Datsun wagons.
I really wish I could find a 510 in Florida. They are so rare to see down here. Maybe one day I could import one from Japan. They look like a blast to drive.
Really nice build lots of potential few tips new seats with some racing seat belt's plus some Weber Side Draft 45's with 4 into one..man you would enjoy that...
Love videos like this. I hope you'll feature more vintage stuff similar to this. I'd love to see a well done FB RX7, MK III Supra, an RX3 and some older Celicas/Corollas.
Matt the reason why clutches in cars like the Hellcat, C63 AMG, etc. have light clutches, is because they were designed from the ground up to support that power and the diameter is much bigger to allow for a larger clutch, which means more surface area for the clutch to clamp down and hold the power. The SR20DET for example, was only really designed for 200-260 hp. So when you want to push 500hp out of it you would need an aggressive clutch to clamp down harder on it because the surface area is just not there to support the power.
That sounds like it makes sense. And I don’t care at all about why it’s heavy. I just want it to be not heavy. Heavy clutches are stupid and suck, they should make them not heavy and then they will be better. And the Carrera GT made 610 Hp with a 6.5” diameter clutch that didn’t require any throttle to take off from a standstill, 15 years ago. So I don’t want to hear anyone’s excuses as to why it can’t be done now.
TheSmokingTire I agree with you on the new car part. Its just with modified cars its a whole new story and unless you want to fabricate a whole new bellhousing, etc, then you will have sadly to use a heavy clutch. :/ Thanks for the response btw
SERIOUS GOMES really you've never seen one? There's alot around NY NJ Virginia area, lived there a bit, although most well kept ones are from Cali. Just look around on Craigslist, they pop up often. As if you're taking on the street, go to the local car scene. Boricuas like old JDMs... Unfortunately I'm in texas.
I Had A 69 And A 72 Wagon And Lost Both Of Them 2 The Police. Now I Drive A G35 And Love It. BUT I STILL Can't Wait 2 Find Another 5/10 Wagon. Way Better Than Any Civic
God, I love Datsuns. Beautiful build so far. Much respect for keeping the old engine in it and making it work.
Refreshing to see the simpleness of the motors back then, nowadays it's a jungle of hoses and a sea of plastic.
Sure, you don't have to deal with ECU's and sensors. It's all about old school tuning, carbs, cams
" it's a jungle of hoses" Actually that was more older cars with all the vacuum lines. That was one of the huge problems with hide away head lights, one leak, no lights haha. New cars are all wires and a sea of plastic as you said.
old efi was a cluster fuck too though lol
sure is... *dailies a salvage 280zx*
My GF had one back in the 80's. Same colour. The engine had a problem where it would run fine in first or second, but die when you were in 3rd or 4th. Guess what it was ... the distributor had a dual point set up where it advanced the timing in 1st and 2nd, but the second set was set to retard the timing in 3rd and Top gear. This is required for most any high comp engines to get the most torque. Found out the second set of points were bad. I replaced them, gapped them and it ran great. There was a mechanical switch on the trans to select the point set.
Never seen that before, and never seen that again! Cheers! - Sandy
Awesome one take, the 510 is my favorite old datsun. The boxy styling had my eye from a young age. Badass car.
You need a residual pressure valve in the front brake circuit. 2psi for disks. That will stop the pads from receding too far into the calipers and reduce the need for "priming" or double pumping the brake pedal.
Borneoben I too was wondering why he has no valve in it. How is he going to go on autocross events :0
Borneoben autocrosses are actually the least of the problem. It’s the most annoying on the street under very light brake situations. In autocross since you stay in second for the majority of the time you can left foot brake, or even just use your left foot to prime the pedal before coming into a braking zone.
I’m running a 280ZX master cylinder (7/8” 2 reservoir, single chamber) and have always had issues with proportioning and brake feel. There is NO space for a booster, the master is on the same side of the bay as the intake and exhaust. I have a feeling part of my problem is the proximity of the master to the headers, warm fluid is bad fluid.
The next steps on this project involve a new rear end (LSD) and a pedal box with individual masters and a proportioning valve. During this process I’ll also be able to switch the rear lines to braided steel and unify the brake lines (right now they’re steel up front and rubber in back).
ive ran plenty of manual brakes (drum, discs, drums/discs) and the only times i had to double pump is when they werent properly bleed. Always bench bleed and us a proper brake bleeder tool. No issues since i started doing that. Fluid heats up from hard braking as well. I would recommend using as much hardline as possible and having braided for places that require articulation.
My 280zx has a phat heat shield in between the intake/exhaust and the brake master cylinder. Can you heat wrap the exhaust if a shield isn't practical? Might even have added benefits with lower engine bay temps
That sounds so good
Man, nothing like the sound of an OHC 4-banger on carbs. I gotta get my GTI project moving again. Totally redone gearbox, Peloquin diff with preload, race steering ratio rack, heim-joint shift linkage, aluminum clutch bushing (no more rubber between pedal and clutch actuator), highest quality flywheel I could buy, stage 2 clutch, and more. It's getting Webers. Gotta love these old "economy" cars. You can build a very mechanically serious car for not a lot of scratch. The downside, at least where I live, is doing everything yourself. Very few people work on cars like these, or at least very few are willing to take the time to do it properly. Kudos to the owner and his dad on a very cool 510 wagon.
So cool. More wagons. I want to see a Volvo 240 or 850R.
Yeaaah volvos are awesome :D
volvo and audi wagons are amazing
I give you the ultra rare Volkswagen Passat W8 4Motion - www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1182171
ChaosphereIX I completely agree
This wagon needs a turbo volvo motor.
This is the kind of car they should bring back. Great looking wagon, didn't even know the 510 came as a wagon, but it makes me like it that much more!
I visited Los Angeles the other month and took a day trip to these canyons with a buddy of mine. Let me tell you these videos don't do it justice when it comes to how scary these roads are in real life. The cliffs/lack of barriers are crazy!!
Bolek989 haha eyes up!
You need to cross the Sierra Nevada on Sherman Pass, Sonora Pass, or take one of the various drives down the Feather River canyons. LA canyons are sketchy, Sierra canyons are arduous. Lol
man this thing sounds great, gotta love the sound of these old engines.
I know how much you love old car brakes, Matt.
respect for not following the beaten path and for not over modernizing. classic is where its at!
Very refreshing, kind of like a cool drink on a hot day.
"Do a lot of girls like that?" nearly made me choke to death on my morning coffee. Thanks Matt.
Datsun made the best looking series of cars in the early 70’s...the Datsun 510, wagon and the little pick up truck. All look sweet.
I wish wagons were more popular in America.
I'm feeling the build! I always have love for old school Japanese cars. Love the simple engine and the damn thing pulls!
One of the absolute funnest cars I've ever owned was the 510 wagon. I've owned 15 510s in the past. I have done just about all you can do to them. The funnest ones are always the ones that are near stock. They really go to s*** when you overpower them. Have fun
My god.. 🤤 you can’t beat
that classic *carbureted* exhaust note!
I wish that Nissan still built cars that were this beautiful. The Datsuns from the 70's in my opinion are some of the most beautiful cars ever made.
brian5o Nissan has gone down hill bad. Especially putting cvt in there cars
TheDustyaman I totally agree. Nissan has committed to cvts seemingly more than any automaker. On the good side, they still do offer some manual transmissions, too but I absolutely hate their styling nowadays. It seems like their styling department has been taken over by a bunch of anime animators. Probably the last Nissan that I liked the styling of was the last 240SX.
brian5o they make the lower cars look like the upper car market from last gens. Like Altima looks like last gen maxima. Then the Sentra looks like the last gen Altima. They have lazy styling. They need to be fired and have someone that’s a Nissan nut to change their cars
I see datsun I hit like
thanks for narrating
I did also even before watching the video.
I see this comment and I hit like
Love the look and sound of this little Datsun wagon 😎
One of my dream vehicles !
I'm a simple man I see a modified wagon I click like.
so tired...
This car is sooo cool! 510s are underrated cars for sure
Nothing like a good 510! My first car and the one that gave me the love for driving the curvy country roads!
What an amazing lil ride.
Crazy how old cars like this are more interesting then modern exotics.
Really digging this guys 510. Love that he doesn't want to put an SR in it.
Satisfying to see an engine bay with so much room and simplicity
Good Lord that thing sounds amazing!!!
oh man does not matter what car it is, if it is a datsun, it is epic anyway. what a cool car!:)
Matt, When you say SR-20 be clear as there is a big difference between an NA SR20 and a turbo SR-20 DET. A normally aspirated and tuned (read ITBs) 2.0 in a 510 is an amazing experience, and as you know, nothing like a big turbo motor.
Love these videos! Keep posting and I'll keep liking.
I love the SR in all forms, I just don’t want one in this car (I have one in my B13 Sentra). If you built a 230hp NA SR you’d be talking about an insane amount of money - both in the motor and the swap. I can get similar power from an over the top L series build and spend less on it and less time swapping the motor in and out of the car.
I found to get rid of that double pump issue you need to A; Bleed the brakes properly and B; pull the calipers off, put something smaller than the disks inbetween the pads and then pump the brake hard up against that, then pry the pads back open just enough to clear the disk, this usually cures it because the dust boots in most cases are causing the pistons to retract, if its the rears causing this, then you have bad adjusters...
The problem arose when I went to Wilwoods calipers up front. There’s a combination of problems including a master cylinder chamber to actual brake size mismatch as well as a heat issue because the master is so close to the headers. It’s all on the list, I’ve just learned to deal with the pedal for the meantime until I decide to go to a different pedal box/master scenario.
Matt Dock your car is so gnarly, I tip my hat sir 👌
Sweet! Had been waiting for you to review a 510! : )
Sounds lovely!
I miss the days when cars were simple and 3x the fun. Really cool ride.
Datsun 510 wagon! Best looking car of all time.
I really like this thing, it hoofs it!
But does she chooch?
Skookum as frig.
Fuck yes
damn this was cool. manual brakes and steering plus that simple engine, it doesn’t get more old school than that! love datsuns
Instant like even before watching... awesome little machine.
I'm a simple man, I see 510 and I click
so tired
I’m a simple man, I see dick and I suck.
Yes! Old school wagons...they rock! I would like to see 70s corolla wagon pls.
Wow haven't seen 1 of these in ages. Very nice!
that joint sounds good on those fly-bys
Hahahaha, "I have no more tolerance for heavy clutches... FUCK EM"
I'm always a sucker for a 510! Love it!
w00t Classic Nissan/Datsun guy is always refreshing to see. Good choice on the classic SE-R.
I met him at the bayline meets a few years ago, very cool.
Beautiful vintage car (wagon in this case), that engine sounds great. Great video!
Matt "These seats weren't made for people my size, but the car certainly sounds the business" Farrah.
#prayforjoe
#BertIsFat
didn't expect to see this on here lol
lmaoo
That smile on the beginning disappeared like nothing else :D
Man i love these old datsun’s
Committed to the L series, respect!!! Love this car
Sounds really good !
I really like the owner of this car. Im a Subaru owner but Ive had a great past with Nissan with my Brother. He has fantastic taste and I loved my Brothers B13 SE-R that He turbo'd and really built out to an amazing autox car. I had a 1980 Corolla 2 door liftback that started my love for old Yota and Datsun wagons.
Love it. Great look. Great sound.
I really wish I could find a 510 in Florida. They are so rare to see down here. Maybe one day I could import one from Japan. They look like a blast to drive.
Cool Datsun Wagon!
Great sound!
Really nice build lots of potential few tips new seats with some racing seat belt's plus some Weber Side Draft 45's with 4 into one..man you would enjoy that...
510 wagons are so sick
Awesome ride. Sounds good
I love how the $20 3rd gen prelude bucket seats fit right in.
awesome car
Sick ride. Love those old 510s. Near impossible to find in northeast...damn you rust!!!!
My first car. Those were the days!
always been my dream car
I just found 1 in a garage fine lol did some work for them and they gave me it we got it to run but needs some TLC and a battery there super light
Love videos like this. I hope you'll feature more vintage stuff similar to this. I'd love to see a well done FB RX7, MK III Supra, an RX3 and some older Celicas/Corollas.
Can you do a one take of Rob Ferretti's 1000 HP (400 to the wheels) student driver Corvette?
Matt the reason why clutches in cars like the Hellcat, C63 AMG, etc. have light clutches, is because they were designed from the ground up to support that power and the diameter is much bigger to allow for a larger clutch, which means more surface area for the clutch to clamp down and hold the power. The SR20DET for example, was only really designed for 200-260 hp. So when you want to push 500hp out of it you would need an aggressive clutch to clamp down harder on it because the surface area is just not there to support the power.
And yes I know its the torque not the power that is the problem but you get the point.
That sounds like it makes sense. And I don’t care at all about why it’s heavy. I just want it to be not heavy. Heavy clutches are stupid and suck, they should make them not heavy and then they will be better. And the Carrera GT made 610 Hp with a 6.5” diameter clutch that didn’t require any throttle to take off from a standstill, 15 years ago. So I don’t want to hear anyone’s excuses as to why it can’t be done now.
TheSmokingTire I agree with you on the new car part. Its just with modified cars its a whole new story and unless you want to fabricate a whole new bellhousing, etc, then you will have sadly to use a heavy clutch. :/
Thanks for the response btw
i sold him my SE-r haha what a small world and i drive a 72 Datsun 510!!!
At 2:55 in a corner with a plow truck riding the centerline is a great time to learn about the "double pump" brakes.
I told him before we got in the car lol.
Cool car, pretty unique 😮
That L series engine sounds awesome.
Damn, that car sounds good!
Finally he's not trying to sell us nonsense in the beginning of the video.
One of my dream cars.
I love Datsun just amazing cars/trucks and strong great for track.
Love this video and car. Great time watching timer.
This is an Exotic car to me. Just saying
Paul Rodriguez New York , never seen one. See exotic everyday here. Ferraris, Porsche , lamb, etc 🙄
SERIOUS GOMES really you've never seen one? There's alot around NY NJ Virginia area, lived there a bit, although most well kept ones are from Cali. Just look around on Craigslist, they pop up often. As if you're taking on the street, go to the local car scene. Boricuas like old JDMs... Unfortunately I'm in texas.
SERIOUS GOMES then so a four light foxbodys. Mustangs 2s and a pos Ef civics are exotics
SERIOUS GOMES I don't see them therefor are rare & exotic. Hmm not sure it works that way
Kolache+one take=good shit
Nice work!
Sounds like a old school rally car, dig it.
Kudos to the guy for wanting to keep the same motor.
soooo cool!!! that car is a swagger hound
A rare masterpiece
i wishd id had this as my weddingcar
Haha looks exactly like the kind of guy who would own a datsun wagon
What? Cool?
As in, not a douche with a vert M3? Then, yes
beanburnham01 It's not an insult if this is what you are thinking
that thing sounds frickin cool
Retro buzz bomb
Nice.
Keep'em comin -
Mmmmmmmm another 510, I love em.
Respect the car, respect the hair gains.
I Had A 69 And A 72 Wagon And Lost Both Of Them 2 The Police. Now I Drive A G35 And Love It. BUT I STILL Can't Wait 2 Find Another 5/10 Wagon. Way Better Than Any Civic
dude has good taste in cars
Wonderful car!
I like this wagon all smiles
The double pump is a symptom of pad knock back. You can cure that with some springs behind the pads or some anti knock back valves in the brake lines.
Cool build. Gotta get those brakes sorted though.
Damn it now I have another dream car