I enjoyed the tensions between Boris and the film maker. The free will thing is the hardest thing for people to accept but it’s quite simple. The brain makes decisions based on a number of factors I.e cultural conditioning, biological preferences etc. But the point is is that there isn’t someone separate from the brain who is controlling the brain. The brain is like the heart. You don’t beat your heart. And you don’t control your brain. There isn’t a you. There just brain functioning and making decisions and heart beating and pumping blood. Simple!
Negation, is a a sign of knowing the No Thing ness, of knowing, and that there is simple explanation which we have practised all along. Whatever the awareness illumines is no thing but itself. This is my humble illusion.
Behind it all is nondual but there are many facets. There are more layers to this illusion than one can think. Until you experience nondual its all mental gymnastics trying to comprehend what can not be comprehended. I've had many teachers and the wisest know very little but they can distinguish between non illusion and illusion. Be careful in trying to figure your way out with the mind.
@@kylekarcher is it really impossible to comprehend nondualism in concept? its very easy to feel it, and point to the experience, yet I guess we can explain it by saying "everything is one energy" then to whom are we explaining XD we only really speak to ourselves, which simplifys things a bit. but you only see the surface, as a human being, the rest is considered emotion. consciousness is everthing of course, logic included... it can bounce around & come back with clarity. when we let our mind rise to the surface we see that we're the wave & the ocean combined, and that the wave is an illusion, & so was the ocean XD so I guess the same thing goes for a computer, its not seperate from the person controlling/working. The senses are really the gates to experience life as unity
Absolutely brilliant film :) I can relate to the tall guy and what I'm seeing his is pessimistic view. I honestly feel he is living a life which is totally not in accordance with his soul, like an apathetic existence. I used to be like that till I start making spontaneous decisions and start trusting in a higher power, my higher self. Got pregnant, left a job of 11yrs,ended up homeless, came off medication of 16yrs,had a full blown breakdown, where I stopped giving a shit and breakdown turned a breakthrough. Ended up healing my mind body and soul of every psychological and physical issue I had, some of which were life diagnoses, became an admin of an very successful Facebook group bringing light to the darkness of this world. Got out of homelessness into a place of my dreams including many day to day things. One of the most profound revelations I had was we can't actually die and at the heart and soul of us all is love.
Very entertaining! You guys remind me of my girlfriend and I when we get into these discussions. I died briefly in hospital and what I experienced taught me this and now I have a completely different understanding on life and peace with death.
I feel sad watching the speakers because they exhibit little joy, which is the essence of life. Non-duality to me means we are one with everything and is non-judgmental. Did I miss something? When you understand that you exist forever and are forever creating, life becomes just lovely. I do appreciate and enjoyed how this doc was filmed.
No, the fact is that there is no "You" As long as there is a feeling of "Me" there's going to be separation, there's nobody there to experience Oneness
oh how the individual loves to create stories. exist forever? if there is no time how could there be a forever. and if there is no separation how could there be a you that exists in the first place? there is just life happening without beginning or end. the sense of self is a dream; adorable in that it wants to live forever, yet nothing more than a wisp of smoke. its existence like trying to hammer a nail into the sky
I LOVE this. Especially around 47:05 where they are just sort of standing around realizing there's no point to any of this communication. This is a truly great buddy movie. So beautifully boring. Thank you.
This dreaming wakening feeling of life. That is exactly where I'm at in life. But the pain of ur the only one who knows and wishing everyone knew we are one and the capabilities we would have with all moving on one frequency brings me to tears. Why do I feel so deeply why do I know so much yet so alone yet not alone just here. Just a frequency. . .
What a GREAT little film!! Thank you so much to all involved - seriously. The strange thing is "I" completely resonate with Charles' WTF AND with Boris' message (and Richard, Tony, and Kenneth - he's my favourite coz he plays guitar LoL!). What a fab film. I also loved 5MEO and Dream Bus - wow. Would love to ask a bunch of questions, but f*** it, the answers would all be the usual dead ends for the individual, so who cares! Thanks for your work you lot... much appreciated!!!
We have had 100 years of consumerism and 50 years of Neo-Liberalism. So we should expect some existential crisis. Thanks guys for this charming doco!!!
Swami Sarvapriyananda, an authority in non dual Vedanta. His teaching about consciousness is so amazing. One must listen to his discourses to comprehend.
Highly enjoyable once again, all this blablabla about nothing. ;) I love watching the facial expressions, and listening to the 'choice' of words, and the absolute absurdity of the whole joke shining through the verbalization of that which can not be spoken about of and by all these apparent different characters who through the years I've been entertaining this apparent self with non-duality have become good friends, or so it seemingly feels. I love the rhythm of the film, the music, and the last scenes with super hero mask and seventies style close off made me laugh really 'uncontrollably'. Thanks again apparent Boris, Charles, Kenneth, Tony, and Richard. :D
Once the mind operates, once thoughts arise, speaking or using words whether vocally or sub-vocally, duality arises. Mind is a cognitive function to compare, distinguish, calculate, processing data etc. To attain or experience nondualism, one returns to one’s pure consciousness. Trick: to be fully present in the here and now. This way, one lives in reality and not in illusory mind or dream.
"here and now" assumed a "then" and a linear timeline. time = duality. also, how could one be present when there is not two already? there is no "you" to be present, there is just presence
@@BLCKSQR Well said! Here and now is the absolute, the ultimate reality, realm or dimension. Upon birth, we experience life through our 6 senses.Those experiences are stored in our 8th or Alaya consciousness like a computer database.This also forms our habitual emotional response, thinking mindset, prejudice of likes and dislikes, character, personality etc. which constitute our sense of I, me or my or the 7th sense of self-consciousness of “who am I”. But ancient Hindu Veda already told us this is all illusion of the human mind. To break free of control of this compulsive thinking and reaction, and become master instead slaves of our mind and our environment, we have to practice being in the here and now. In time, when such awareness is strong, there will be a shift of consciousness, from the conventional relativity dimension to the absolute. Guru masters like the Buddha, Ramakrishna, Ramana Maharshi, Yogananda, Vivikenanda, Alan Wallace, Eckhart Tolle, Rupert Spira realised this, and have started a revolutionary self-realization movement in human consciousness to attain true liberation. There is no longer the old “I” or “you”, for you are the universe. The sense or basis of imputation of “I” in the here and now is beyond time and space. You may call it God.When you realise who you are, you know God, as Balyani said. He actually meant I am God, you are God, we are one, as pointed out by Sai Baba.
@BLCKSQR You are right. Indeed time is just a human construct or conceptual notion and does not exist in reality. This is already pointed out by Albert Einstein as proven by quantum relativity theory. In fact anything relative such as hot cold, true false, good bad, high low, big small, past future etc. has no real existence. It exists in our mind only.
43:07 something similar happened to me.. and I got the sense of "I am" It was scary and magnificent at the same time. I cried for half an hour feeling alone.. then I realized I can play with my character and just have fun with it. Cried another 30mins but of happiness
Same here. I was sitting in traffic on a bridge overlooking the Norfolk Broads when I got the feeling of not actually being there but being everything. As soon as I became aware of this, the feeling ended. As per the players in this film, I can’t use words to describe actually how I felt. I’d just got through a really difficult time and, upon reflection, my whole life had been a lie (I was 50 at the time). Tolle had recently introduced me to presence and I was practicing it heavily at the time. So much so that it got to the point where nothing mattered whatsoever. Wife, job, children, grandchildren, parents, everything which was pretty fucking scary. I had to dial it back significantly or I truly believe I would have ended up with no relationships or possessions.
@@TheJayddub there are already no relationships, how could there be if there is not two. two = duality. there is no separation already. you're holding on for dear life to something that doesn't even exist - not that there's anything wrong with that :)
I think most people who have awakened have a difficulty describing it because it's a felt experience. I suggest people should listen to Eckhart Tolle, Michael Singer and Eric Putkonen...they can describe presence and awareness well.. If I could describe it with my own words, nothing's special when you feel it. I mean, you could get some deep moments when you feel like you're one with everything (samadhi) or deep sadness (ego death/dark night of the soul) or being present itself (satori) (idk if I labeled them correctly) but yeah I'm still seeking, my mind is stubborn. But I'm told by my friends that I'm awake--every time. It's just that I use the mind most of the time and I think of awakening as something I can get someday/in the future imagine the sun and sunrays.. the sun is God/the Source.. and we're the sunrays.. we're souls, we're not our body, nor our minds nor our characteristics.. anything we see or hear in the physical realm, that's our avatar..just a character. who we are inside--the soul, the consciousness--is our true form
So….much fun. Love how the film was cut and edited because of it’s spaciousness there was time to be with it. Had a Monty Python vibe. It conveyed a lot within the constraints of language. Charmed in the U.S.
Thanks for this lovely little film. Enjoyed Boris' cantankerous tone while trying to assert that "There's no one here". Can't tell if he truly experiences "this" as such or if he is just repeating an ideal but enjoyed it none the less.
Your path starts after religion,after listening to others people experiences after reading numeros spiritual books ,listening to all sort of gurus, after paying someone to get knowledge.
If you can make such a beautiful and witty documentary about nonduality, you can can make a beautiful and witty documentary about anything. Well done my friend. The vibes, the cut, the dialogues... Wonderful
Indeed, this discussion if going anywhere :-) The reason is that this is a discussion between a person who comes from a point of experience and another person who is trying to grasp things on an intellectual level... I think you only grasp this from experience. Is same with near-death experiences, contacts after death,... Subjective experience however, is always ignored in mainstream science. Thanks for docu, i enjoyed it a lot :-)
This is so good. These speakers you have in are incredible. This is probably the best video I have ever seen about non-duality. Boris gives a very beautiful, subtle and simple way of trying to describe this state. Its very good to have him in that video.
Yes confirmed. This movie is HIllarious, if you are wondering just watch it even if you're not a spiritual person. A brilliant take on nonduality, UK stile, lots of fun. At times it feels like "what should we talk about" and its very humorous. Big Thumbs up to you guys. Just a youtube comment being written up..
I have found this film extremely interesting and incredibly entertaining, at the same time😂 I recently met someone that, follows the practice or 'Way of non-duality'. It is worth mentioning that any form of adherence to any spiritual concept is still a concept based on the brains story telling narrative just, like all the others (I am super spiritual and spent a long time searching for peace before I received a very deep shamanic healing session 4 years ago which, allowed my soul to heal). I meditate daily and find it keeps me consciously aware and balanced mentally and emotionally. I also do kundalini yoga and Reiki. I have quite a few questions regarding how you utilse the practice of non-duality which, basically amounts to living in presence (and total acceptance) in the moment, all the time which, we can (and should) do but without a sense of Self or proactiveness in our lives, How do we function in society? How do we also, have unconditional love for the really evil or morally corrupt events, organisations or individuals that take place in this present reality (and it is a shared reality as we all perceive the world as it is consistently in the collective in the 3D anyway)? I do believe that, unconditional love is what we ultimately return to and that everything is just a shifting moment (and that, is a place I reach everday in meditation) but we live in a world of total duality, of darkness and light, of evil deeds and good deeds, of negative and positive and that is the reality of the world we live in and the human experience so, I am getting the sense that, as even Boris admitted at the end, it is a way of giving things up and avoiding the accountability of our own Self-leadership and another mechanism for coping with the challenges that, arise in life. Essentially, it seems it is another rabbit hole of illusion in its Self, if you ask me but I do believe, that is ultimately this divine love we return too and I really enjoyed this documentary and the dynamics between this duo💞
When talking about the non dual it’s unhelpful to use concepts (eg free will) because all these devices exist only in relative terms to describe in the world of the mind/body. Activity happens as a natural part of the phenomena of experience. When resting in awareness, all this dissolves- impossible to convey - no freedom, no bondage just being
There is a relative "self" - but that self is not permanent, unitary, independent and separate - (whjch is the way we think we exist) everything that exists is a dependent-arising. This is the Buddhist teaching on emptiness - which doesn't mean nothingness/nihilism.
I only have an awakening experience that seemingly happened to ‘me’ at 19 as a reference point which like in the documentary has become an event on a time line. This film and non duality is a frustrating linguistic labyrinth, ultimately unsatisfying to the separate self. I’m at the point where I’m tired with it, yet utterly drawn to it. There are no words, it all feels like effort, what’s the point ?
The point is to bring others into Awareness to decrease duality and increase Wholeness. A common misunderstanding is that once there is Wholeness there is nothingness, but this is not Truth. Once the Wholeness is Wholeness there is FULL Awareness, and IT IS truly non-dual. FULL flow, and Feelings are intensified to super powers. I, We are simply in a state of forget.
59:00 is hilarious...! Discussing about the definition of the word, but using two totally different definitions or viewpoints. The one definition is about love for a child and could come from Webster's; "A feeling of strong attachment induced by that which delights or commands admiration". The other definition is simply the acceptance of what is; this. Or as the Dalai Lama said; "Love is the absence of resistance or judgement". Reality simply is as it is, and fully accepting it is love. And since it can only simply be and accept itself as being thát, it essentially just consists of love.
I just want to say: I'm in love. In love with a special person, in love with myself, in love with life, in love with God, in love with all that I AM, in love with all that is. I love life. I've spent my whole life in a suicidal hell, and for the first time ever, that's all permanently shifting NOW.
Certainly a consciousness-expanding film. I understand that certain experiences and states of consciousness are beyond concepts and words but couldn't help feeling that Boris could have worked harder to help his friend understand non-duality as 'he' understood it. I find Rupert Spira's discussions on the subject the most compelling as he effectively uses metaphor to introduce the concepts - or at least sign-posts the 'seeker' to their deeper truth of existence.
@@borisjansch4105 My sense is that ultimately there is no separation and we are all, in essence, one being. Again, the limitations of concepts and words are at play here.... But, does your apparent (or illusory) self recognise the human experience and find value in it? You mentioned nihilism at one point in the film and that was actually the sense I was left with after watching the film, rather than comfort. To frame this another way, even if there is no inherent meaning to life; it is not meaningless.
@@jamieliddell Hi Jamie. It's impossible to answer the question about whether or not life has value without telling a story, which is fine because stories are how we derive meaning, but that would be a personal, subjective opinion about that which is completely free from any kind of qualitative analysis, other than in the story :-))) God it's nuts!! Anyway... Nihilism is a philosophical point of view, born out of the idea that life is meaningless, but LIFE, or, THIS,, right 'now', this 'second', is choice-less and free from any particular 'value' that might now or ever be imposed on it. But the fact that it is neither meaningful nor meaningless, doesn't mean for example, that it doesn't matter whether you are kind or unkind. That would be an imposed meaning. It just means it's unknowable.
@@borisjansch4105 Why DOES it matter if we are kind or unkind then? (I'm not trying to be facetious here just not grasping the idea - being kind is an act of free will is it not?!)
@@jamieliddell There's no choice or free will. But that doesn't mean that nothing matters. Imposing a value judgement ie making something meaningful or meaningless is part of the story. But we don't know jack shit about this present 'now-ness' and we're not separate from it.
We should start with the fact that no words can convey reality and any discussion we have is wholly inadequate to the task. "The Tao that can be told (spoken) is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the Eternal Name. The Nameless is the Source of Heaven and Earth. The named is the Mother of the Ten Thousand Things." (Tao Te Ching) Understanding that would have cut this film down to five minutes. I made it to 54:58. It just shows how much I want my thoughts to be challenged by unusual ideas, but by 54:58, it all sounds like one unusual idea. The "I" that allegedly doesn't exist is going to move on to something else. Thanks for producing the film. I hope it was pleasurable for all involved. :-)
I think there was one true moment which wasn´t explored further (to my deep regret): who is the one deciding that the children shouldn´t drink sugar drinks? Who is the one asking the doctor if the skin spot is cancer and why? Who is having a thought about that and wouldnt´you call it worries? If so: who is worrying? I wonder if these people would ask these questions or if so who would be asking these questions? What about the instinct of self-preservation? Is it still intact if the me disapeared? Or would all these people die without beeing afraid at any moment in time not thinking I leave my kids alone? Its kind of sad that these questions are never asked and that the sugar / children question was not kept track.
So we use non-duality to refer as what is, just is, but exclude that what was, is also part of what already is. So we separate by claiming that never has it been any separation
How can some one who never had the experience of a personal self end up in a video like this one ? The moment you see there's no such thing as a self you see there's no such thing as another .It's not the other way around .
Thats why there is spiritual teachers and there is spiritual teachers ! Because satgurus know that people are at different levels and have different kind of conditionings and need different kind of explanation and paths ! That is compassion , knowing how to transmit the knowing. The Indian scriptures have the medicine and prescriptions . I guess not all those who have been graced with seeng have been graced with the art of teaching ! That is why gurus are worshiped . ( sometimes they are charlatans but there is real ones ) Thats why they say finding a guru is like winning the lottery !
Exploring these existential/spiritual(?) phenomena is something I have always thought brought value to my life. However, at some point, I had to come to the realization and then accept that others, in fact most, didn't find such exploration as anything other than horrific, terrifying. Such exploration didn't enrich their lives or have any other effect than negative. Moreover, my efforts to expose others to this sort of exploration with the goal of benefiting them was in fact, cruel and unethical. To continue to do so was sadistic. So, for the most part, these days, I don't do it. If someone seems of like mind and wants to explore them, I will do so with them, but otherwise, I leave it alone. These days I try and "do no harm" even or especially, "for their own good."
....But the most beautiful thing about life is that even we can talk for hours and think this or that way we still know nothing as we really do know nothing at all, so therefore the mystery is the point. Thank you
“There is no separate self” etc is just another limited, limiting, “positive” affirmation, and is ultimately false. As soon as you say anything at all you fall into a trap where you set up potentially rigid divisions. It’s not that you don’t exist or don’t have a self, it’s just that, that self isn’t permanent, unchanging, or definable in some word construct, because that would have exceptions, be limiting, be binding in some unhelpful way. You’re still the miracle of awareness having a human experience in an individual meat sack with its own personal history. You probably have preferences but you recognise they aren’t in any sense ultimately true in the way the ego wants them to be with its desire for specialness or identity. I think it’s relatively common to have an “ego loss” experience where the sense of division, where the inner monologue drops back and you’re faced with an immediate connection with whatever’s happening with no distraction and noise in between; present moment awareness. However as evidenced I think by some of the talking heads in the video the no-self routine can also become an egoic act that wants to be seen as special.
Yes, I agree. I think Rupert Spira is the most effective 'teacher' on this whole subject and I think your comment is in line with how he characterises non-duality.
this is also just another story, as is what i'm typing now. but your "present moment awareness" waffle is clearly "better" than the "no-self routine" act. congrats :)
The Second Second: A castpod regarding the now of tomorrow and yesterday The Ascent into Madness: Liberation from the insanity of sanity. Who will do the dishes? Someone has to make dinner, right? Take the red pill so you can choose your blue pill, as opposed to having your blue pill chosen for you. The occasional recognition that we or I have no way of understanding what is or how it came to be or anything about the origination or destination is so overwhelming I wonder if some people have avoided this recognition their whole lives. Or do most have it and avoid it. Or forget it. A useful forgetting. Forgetting that we forgot A list of all the things I have forgotten: Aspiring for the Absurd Go into show business? It does sound interesting now. Create stories. Play some part in the creation of stories. The absurdity of seriousness: does anything matter?
If it’s possible that We can merge with everything then the illusion we have of a separate self ultimately merges with everything and we all become one ? We are the illusion ? Why would the universe or the everything ie no beginning no end (I’m assuming the mathematical zero or circle ? ) split in this way ? What’s is the purpose ? I’m probably talking rubbish I’m not a scientist as you can see …..oh wait ….it’s unknowable :( So Why bother trying to pursue these questions, does it really leads to relief increased happiness and less suffering when you stop believing in meaning and purpose ? I can’t help thinking that this will not bring much relief to certain types of traumatic human experience which can often only be lived with by reframing and attaching specific meaning ascribed to it by those individuals.
I would also point out that all I have is my experience, both sensory (internal and of the external world) and my mental activity (thoughts, feelings, etc.). Reality may be illusionary, I may be a brain in a vat, but I have nothing to support this theory. In other words, I am left to live my life as it appears to me, is presented to me, as I experience reality. To operate as if reality was different than what I experience is foolish - and even if somehow this isn't harming myself or causing me to suffer, it will tend to cause others around me (especially those who care about me) to suffer. This is unethical.
Simply BRILLIANT - enjoyed every second of it! THANK YOU! ❤️
I can't explain it there are no words I'm loving Non Duality or trying to or never did ! It's a happening ...energy it's amazing I never noticed
"resonating with what's being said and feeling relief" captures pretty much my mind while watching this
I enjoyed the tensions between Boris and the film maker. The free will thing is the hardest thing for people to accept but it’s quite simple. The brain makes decisions based on a number of factors I.e cultural conditioning, biological preferences etc. But the point is is that there isn’t someone separate from the brain who is controlling the brain. The brain is like the heart. You don’t beat your heart. And you don’t control your brain. There isn’t a you. There just brain functioning and making decisions and heart beating and pumping blood. Simple!
Very well expained. Thanks.
Negation, is a a sign of knowing the No Thing ness, of knowing, and that there is simple explanation which we have practised all along. Whatever the awareness illumines is no thing but itself. This is my humble illusion.
You sir just brought me an earth shattering revelation! Sometimes just the words have to be right to make it 'click'
Behind it all is nondual but there are many facets. There are more layers to this illusion than one can think. Until you experience nondual its all mental gymnastics trying to comprehend what can not be comprehended. I've had many teachers and the wisest know very little but they can distinguish between non illusion and illusion. Be careful in trying to figure your way out with the mind.
@@kylekarcher is it really impossible to comprehend nondualism in concept? its very easy to feel it, and point to the experience, yet I guess we can explain it by saying "everything is one energy" then to whom are we explaining XD we only really speak to ourselves, which simplifys things a bit.
but you only see the surface, as a human being, the rest is considered emotion. consciousness is everthing of course, logic included... it can bounce around & come back with clarity.
when we let our mind rise to the surface we see that we're the wave & the ocean combined, and that the wave is an illusion, & so was the ocean XD so I guess the same thing goes for a computer, its not seperate from the person controlling/working. The senses are really the gates to experience life as unity
the cat was the star,.it conveyed 'the message' way more than all the speakers combined!
Absolutely brilliant film :)
I can relate to the tall guy and what I'm seeing his is pessimistic view. I honestly feel he is living a life which is totally not in accordance with his soul, like an apathetic existence. I used to be like that till I start making spontaneous decisions and start trusting in a higher power, my higher self. Got pregnant, left a job of 11yrs,ended up homeless, came off medication of 16yrs,had a full blown breakdown, where I stopped giving a shit and breakdown turned a breakthrough. Ended up healing my mind body and soul of every psychological and physical issue I had, some of which were life diagnoses, became an admin of an very successful Facebook group bringing light to the darkness of this world. Got out of homelessness into a place of my dreams including many day to day things. One of the most profound revelations I had was we can't actually die and at the heart and soul of us all is love.
The ‘low energy apathy’ might be his normal ‘personality’ type.
@@JaikaJKlein maybe
Just seemed typically British to me. Cultural conditioning.
Fantastic STORY 👏
Very entertaining! You guys remind me of my girlfriend and I when we get into these discussions. I died briefly in hospital and what I experienced taught me this and now I have a completely different understanding on life and peace with death.
I feel sad watching the speakers because they exhibit little joy, which is the essence of life. Non-duality to me means we are one with everything and is non-judgmental. Did I miss something? When you understand that you exist forever and are forever creating, life becomes just lovely. I do appreciate and enjoyed how this doc was filmed.
No, the fact is that there is no "You"
As long as there is a feeling of "Me" there's going to be separation, there's nobody there to experience Oneness
oh how the individual loves to create stories. exist forever? if there is no time how could there be a forever. and if there is no separation how could there be a you that exists in the first place? there is just life happening without beginning or end. the sense of self is a dream; adorable in that it wants to live forever, yet nothing more than a wisp of smoke. its existence like trying to hammer a nail into the sky
They're making breakfast and drinking tea. Why would they be exhibiting 'joy'? They're totally ordinary.
@greenleaf365 It's pure love 😊
I LOVE this. Especially around 47:05 where they are just sort of standing around realizing there's no point to any of this communication. This is a truly great buddy movie. So beautifully boring. Thank you.
Thought he trying to stay in the present😂
This dreaming wakening feeling of life. That is exactly where I'm at in life. But the pain of ur the only one who knows and wishing everyone knew we are one and the capabilities we would have with all moving on one frequency brings me to tears. Why do I feel so deeply why do I know so much yet so alone yet not alone just here. Just a frequency. . .
Charles Turley is great. I love him....... (if he even exists or not)
Playfully serious and a seriously playful addition to ‘this’ 🌸🌸🌸
What a GREAT little film!! Thank you so much to all involved - seriously. The strange thing is "I" completely resonate with Charles' WTF AND with Boris' message (and Richard, Tony, and Kenneth - he's my favourite coz he plays guitar LoL!). What a fab film. I also loved 5MEO and Dream Bus - wow. Would love to ask a bunch of questions, but f*** it, the answers would all be the usual dead ends for the individual, so who cares! Thanks for your work you lot... much appreciated!!!
The outward breath is a reminder to the seeker to release the illusion of self with each perceived moment
We have had 100 years of consumerism and 50 years of Neo-Liberalism. So we should expect some existential crisis. Thanks guys for this charming doco!!!
this is hilarious. has me giggling with amusement of their arguing over words and appreciation at same time.
Swami Sarvapriyananda, an authority in non dual Vedanta. His teaching about consciousness is so amazing. One must listen to his discourses to comprehend.
A wonderful and hilarious film about everything and nothing. Thanks Boris and Charles. Thanks Kenneth, Tony and Richard.
Love, love, loved it!! Thank you. 🙏❤️
Amazing documentary!! Very authentic conversations,. Also had a good laugh through out. Thank you
Highly enjoyable once again, all this blablabla about nothing. ;) I love watching the facial expressions, and listening to the 'choice' of words, and the absolute absurdity of the whole joke shining through the verbalization of that which can not be spoken about of and by all these apparent different characters who through the years I've been entertaining this apparent self with non-duality have become good friends, or so it seemingly feels. I love the rhythm of the film, the music, and the last scenes with super hero mask and seventies style close off made me laugh really 'uncontrollably'. Thanks again apparent Boris, Charles, Kenneth, Tony, and Richard. :D
Really enjoyed reading your comments! Thanks v much for watching 🙂
Once the mind operates, once thoughts arise, speaking or using words whether vocally or sub-vocally, duality arises. Mind is a cognitive function to compare, distinguish, calculate, processing data etc. To attain or experience nondualism, one returns to one’s pure consciousness. Trick: to be fully present in the here and now. This way, one lives in reality and not in illusory mind or dream.
Namaste 🙏
"here and now" assumed a "then" and a linear timeline. time = duality. also, how could one be present when there is not two already? there is no "you" to be present, there is just presence
@@BLCKSQR Well said! Here and now is the absolute, the ultimate reality, realm or dimension. Upon birth, we experience life through our 6 senses.Those experiences are stored in our 8th or Alaya consciousness like a computer database.This also forms our habitual emotional response, thinking mindset, prejudice of likes and dislikes, character, personality etc. which constitute our sense of I, me or my or the 7th sense of self-consciousness of “who am I”. But ancient Hindu Veda already told us this is all illusion of the human mind. To break free of control of this compulsive thinking and reaction, and become master instead slaves of our mind and our environment, we have to practice being in the here and now. In time, when such awareness is strong, there will be a shift of consciousness, from the conventional relativity dimension to the absolute. Guru masters like the Buddha, Ramakrishna, Ramana Maharshi, Yogananda, Vivikenanda, Alan Wallace, Eckhart Tolle, Rupert Spira realised this, and have started a revolutionary self-realization movement in human consciousness to attain true liberation. There is no longer the old “I” or “you”, for you are the universe. The sense or basis of imputation of “I” in the here and now is beyond time and space. You may call it God.When you realise who you are, you know God, as Balyani said. He actually meant I am God, you are God, we are one, as pointed out by Sai Baba.
@BLCKSQR You are right. Indeed time is just a human construct or conceptual notion and does not exist in reality. This is already pointed out by Albert Einstein as proven by quantum relativity theory. In fact anything relative such as hot cold, true false, good bad, high low, big small, past future etc. has no real existence. It exists in our mind only.
Thank you so much for this amazing film!
43:07 something similar happened to me.. and I got the sense of "I am"
It was scary and magnificent at the same time. I cried for half an hour feeling alone.. then I realized I can play with my character and just have fun with it. Cried another 30mins but of happiness
Same here. I was sitting in traffic on a bridge overlooking the Norfolk Broads when I got the feeling of not actually being there but being everything. As soon as I became aware of this, the feeling ended. As per the players in this film, I can’t use words to describe actually how I felt. I’d just got through a really difficult time and, upon reflection, my whole life had been a lie (I was 50 at the time). Tolle had recently introduced me to presence and I was practicing it heavily at the time. So much so that it got to the point where nothing mattered whatsoever. Wife, job, children, grandchildren, parents, everything which was pretty fucking scary. I had to dial it back significantly or I truly believe I would have ended up with no relationships or possessions.
@@TheJayddub there are already no relationships, how could there be if there is not two. two = duality. there is no separation already. you're holding on for dear life to something that doesn't even exist - not that there's anything wrong with that :)
I think most people who have awakened have a difficulty describing it because it's a felt experience. I suggest people should listen to Eckhart Tolle, Michael Singer and Eric Putkonen...they can describe presence and awareness well..
If I could describe it with my own words, nothing's special when you feel it. I mean, you could get some deep moments when you feel like you're one with everything (samadhi) or deep sadness (ego death/dark night of the soul) or being present itself (satori) (idk if I labeled them correctly) but yeah
I'm still seeking, my mind is stubborn. But I'm told by my friends that I'm awake--every time. It's just that I use the mind most of the time and I think of awakening as something I can get someday/in the future
imagine the sun and sunrays.. the sun is God/the Source.. and we're the sunrays.. we're souls, we're not our body, nor our minds nor our characteristics.. anything we see or hear in the physical realm, that's our avatar..just a character. who we are inside--the soul, the consciousness--is our true form
So….much fun. Love how the film was cut and edited because of it’s spaciousness there was time to be with it. Had a Monty Python vibe. It conveyed a lot within the constraints of language. Charmed in the U.S.
Beautiful ❤🎉
Thanks for this lovely little film. Enjoyed Boris' cantankerous tone while trying to assert that "There's no one here". Can't tell if he truly experiences "this" as such or if he is just repeating an ideal but enjoyed it none the less.
Your path starts after religion,after listening to others people experiences after reading numeros spiritual books ,listening to all sort of gurus, after paying someone to get knowledge.
Great film, and very funny! Thanks
Love it! Thank you 🙏
Thank you! A true Gift.
Thank you, that film is a delight!
Thank you. I enjoyed it very much😉😍
Immensely enjoyable. Knowing there is only being, only now.
Wonderful project. Am sure Anil Seth who is just down the road at the university would have some very interesting contributions to make too
Okay, I am laughing,and that makes my day. You've made my day.. Happy feet. 😇
Nothing superheroing. Love it. 😂
If you can make such a beautiful and witty documentary about nonduality, you can can make a beautiful and witty documentary about anything. Well done my friend. The vibes, the cut, the dialogues... Wonderful
Id love to join this kindof community
Indeed, this discussion if going anywhere :-) The reason is that this is a discussion between a person who comes from a point of experience and another person who is trying to grasp things on an intellectual level... I think you only grasp this from experience. Is same with near-death experiences, contacts after death,... Subjective experience however, is always ignored in mainstream science. Thanks for docu, i enjoyed it a lot :-)
Great documentary!
I loved Boris' poem and wonder if it's available somewhere to read online. Thank you for this wonderful film.
This is so good. These speakers you have in are incredible. This is probably the best video I have ever seen about non-duality. Boris gives a very beautiful, subtle and simple way of trying to describe this state. Its very good to have him in that video.
Geese, a cat, squirrels, white cliffs and Mozart. What more could you want from a movie?
love this!
The directors face..😂😂😂😂😂😂 54:06
Yes confirmed. This movie is HIllarious, if you are wondering just watch it even if you're not a spiritual person. A brilliant take on nonduality, UK stile, lots of fun. At times it feels like "what should we talk about" and its very humorous. Big Thumbs up to you guys. Just a youtube comment being written up..
Nice one! Thanks for the comment 🙂
I have found this film extremely interesting and incredibly entertaining, at the same time😂 I recently met someone that, follows the practice or 'Way of non-duality'.
It is worth mentioning that any form of adherence to any spiritual concept is still a concept based on the brains story telling narrative just, like all the others (I am super spiritual and spent a long time searching for peace before I received a very deep shamanic healing session 4 years ago which, allowed my soul to heal). I meditate daily and find it keeps me consciously aware and balanced mentally and emotionally. I also do kundalini yoga and Reiki.
I have quite a few questions regarding how you utilse the practice of non-duality which, basically amounts to living in presence (and total acceptance) in the moment, all the time which, we can (and should) do but without a sense of Self or proactiveness in our lives, How do we function in society? How do we also, have unconditional love for the really evil or morally corrupt events, organisations or individuals that take place in this present reality (and it is a shared reality as we all perceive the world as it is consistently in the collective in the 3D anyway)?
I do believe that, unconditional love is what we ultimately return to and that everything is just a shifting moment (and that, is a place I reach everday in meditation) but we live in a world of total duality, of darkness and light, of evil deeds and good deeds, of negative and positive and that is the reality of the world we live in and the human experience so, I am getting the sense that, as even Boris admitted at the end, it is a way of giving things up and avoiding the accountability of our own Self-leadership and another mechanism for coping with the challenges that, arise in life. Essentially, it seems it is another rabbit hole of illusion in its Self, if you ask me but I do believe, that is ultimately this divine love we return too and I really enjoyed this documentary and the dynamics between this duo💞
When talking about the non dual it’s unhelpful to use concepts (eg free will) because all these devices exist only in relative terms to describe in the world of the mind/body. Activity happens as a natural part of the phenomena of experience. When resting in awareness, all this dissolves- impossible to convey - no freedom, no bondage just being
Charles Turley sounds just like Rupert Spira! :-):-)
just what I was thinking :D
So so magnificently beautifully nothing and what a fantastic video 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁💓🙏
There is a relative "self" - but that self is not permanent, unitary, independent and separate - (whjch is the way we think we exist) everything that exists is a dependent-arising. This is the Buddhist teaching on emptiness - which doesn't mean nothingness/nihilism.
👏 very well done 🙃 ❤
I only have an awakening experience that seemingly happened to ‘me’ at 19 as a reference point which like in the documentary has become an event on a time line. This film and non duality is a frustrating linguistic labyrinth, ultimately unsatisfying to the separate self. I’m at the point where I’m tired with it, yet utterly drawn to it. There are no words, it all feels like effort, what’s the point ?
Its all the Tao 👍🙌💪✌️
The point is to bring others into Awareness to decrease duality and increase Wholeness. A common misunderstanding is that once there is Wholeness there is nothingness, but this is not Truth. Once the Wholeness is Wholeness there is FULL Awareness, and IT IS truly non-dual. FULL flow, and Feelings are intensified to super powers. I, We are simply in a state of forget.
This was hilarious! ❤️
The frustration is amusing!
Still amusing second time around
59:00 is hilarious...! Discussing about the definition of the word, but using two totally different definitions or viewpoints. The one definition is about love for a child and could come from Webster's; "A feeling of strong attachment induced by that which delights or commands admiration". The other definition is simply the acceptance of what is; this. Or as the Dalai Lama said; "Love is the absence of resistance or judgement". Reality simply is as it is, and fully accepting it is love. And since it can only simply be and accept itself as being thát, it essentially just consists of love.
Great work guys 😂
I just want to say:
I'm in love.
In love with a special person,
in love with myself, in love with life,
in love with God, in love with all that I AM,
in love with all that is. I love life.
I've spent my whole life in a suicidal hell,
and for the first time ever,
that's all permanently shifting NOW.
Certainly a consciousness-expanding film. I understand that certain experiences and states of consciousness are beyond concepts and words but couldn't help feeling that Boris could have worked harder to help his friend understand non-duality as 'he' understood it. I find Rupert Spira's discussions on the subject the most compelling as he effectively uses metaphor to introduce the concepts - or at least sign-posts the 'seeker' to their deeper truth of existence.
Boris doesn't know anything about nonduality, nobody does, not even the lovely RS.
@@borisjansch4105 My sense is that ultimately there is no separation and we are all, in essence, one being. Again, the limitations of concepts and words are at play here.... But, does your apparent (or illusory) self recognise the human experience and find value in it? You mentioned nihilism at one point in the film and that was actually the sense I was left with after watching the film, rather than comfort. To frame this another way, even if there is no inherent meaning to life; it is not meaningless.
@@jamieliddell Hi Jamie. It's impossible to answer the question about whether or not life has value without telling a story, which is fine because stories are how we derive meaning, but that would be a personal, subjective opinion about that which is completely free from any kind of qualitative analysis, other than in the story :-))) God it's nuts!! Anyway... Nihilism is a philosophical point of view, born out of the idea that life is meaningless, but LIFE, or, THIS,, right 'now', this 'second', is choice-less and free from any particular 'value' that might now or ever be imposed on it. But the fact that it is neither meaningful nor meaningless, doesn't mean for example, that it doesn't matter whether you are kind or unkind. That would be an imposed meaning. It just means it's unknowable.
@@borisjansch4105 Why DOES it matter if we are kind or unkind then? (I'm not trying to be facetious here just not grasping the idea - being kind is an act of free will is it not?!)
@@jamieliddell There's no choice or free will. But that doesn't mean that nothing matters. Imposing a value judgement ie making something meaningful or meaningless is part of the story. But we don't know jack shit about this present 'now-ness' and we're not separate from it.
Why am "I" reminded of UG Krishnamurti?
Edit: Thanks to all involved in making this film. This is good.
I’m reminded of “The Denial of Death” by Ernest Becker.
So funny. Tim and Boris are the new Abbot and Costello in this non-duality comedy. Who's on first?
Adyashanti gives answer to the question he wants to understand.
It honestly always surprise me when I hear "people not getting it". It feels as they would pretend it.
Brilliant
The Uni-Verse IS 01 dualistic from whichever angle you see it. 010
I'm honestly not sure wether I saw a mockdoc or not.
We should start with the fact that no words can convey reality and any discussion we have is wholly inadequate to the task. "The Tao that can be told (spoken) is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the Eternal Name. The Nameless is the Source of Heaven and Earth. The named is the Mother of the Ten Thousand Things." (Tao Te Ching) Understanding that would have cut this film down to five minutes. I made it to 54:58. It just shows how much I want my thoughts to be challenged by unusual ideas, but by 54:58, it all sounds like one unusual idea. The "I" that allegedly doesn't exist is going to move on to something else. Thanks for producing the film. I hope it was pleasurable for all involved. :-)
Cheers Brian, yes was pleasurable at times. I recommend watching from 1.13.33 for the deepest insights ;-)
I think there was one true moment which wasn´t explored further (to my deep regret): who is the one deciding that the children shouldn´t drink sugar drinks? Who is the one asking the doctor if the skin spot is cancer and why? Who is having a thought about that and wouldnt´you call it worries? If so: who is worrying? I wonder if these people would ask these questions or if so who would be asking these questions? What about the instinct of self-preservation? Is it still intact if the me disapeared? Or would all these people die without beeing afraid at any moment in time not thinking I leave my kids alone? Its kind of sad that these questions are never asked and that the sugar / children question was not kept track.
Enjoy there's no choice one love no problems life is good
So we use non-duality to refer as what is, just is, but exclude that what was, is also part of what already is. So we separate by claiming that never has it been any separation
"Me neither" 😂
How can some one who never had the experience of a personal self end up in a video like this one ? The moment you see there's no such thing as a self you see there's no such thing as another .It's not the other way around .
Hi H, I don't think there's any suggestion that anyone has a 'self' nor that one has been lost, other than from Charles' point of view.
I just can’t seem to get there. Wet coal. Any tips?
what is the point of all the rings on it's fingers
No one has a crush on Boris. 😆
Thats why there is spiritual teachers and there is spiritual teachers ! Because satgurus know that people are at different levels and have different kind of conditionings and need different kind of explanation and paths ! That is compassion , knowing how to transmit the knowing. The Indian scriptures have the medicine and prescriptions .
I guess not all those who have been graced with seeng have been graced with the art of teaching ! That is why gurus are worshiped . ( sometimes they are charlatans but there is real ones ) Thats why they say finding a guru is like winning the lottery !
Yeah no lessons or spiritual teachers or teachings in this film.
No tienen versión en español ?
Exploring these existential/spiritual(?) phenomena is something I have always thought brought value to my life. However, at some point, I had to come to the realization and then accept that others, in fact most, didn't find such exploration as anything other than horrific, terrifying. Such exploration didn't enrich their lives or have any other effect than negative. Moreover, my efforts to expose others to this sort of exploration with the goal of benefiting them was in fact, cruel and unethical. To continue to do so was sadistic. So, for the most part, these days, I don't do it. If someone seems of like mind and wants to explore them, I will do so with them, but otherwise, I leave it alone. These days I try and "do no harm" even or especially, "for their own good."
The sadistic feeling could possibly be just there pain. 😕
who is exploring? the self. what is unethical about suggesting that we are all unique parts of the whole undivided oneness?
@@colmrooney414 It tends to cause existential anxiety in most people.
Jim Newman says it with more clarity
....But the most beautiful thing about life is that even we can talk for hours and think this or that way we still know nothing as we really do know nothing at all, so therefore the mystery is the point.
Thank you
The presenter so fabulously plays the role of the Fool - completely missing the point at every turn -well played
“There is no separate self” etc is just another limited, limiting, “positive” affirmation, and is ultimately false. As soon as you say anything at all you fall into a trap where you set up potentially rigid divisions.
It’s not that you don’t exist or don’t have a self, it’s just that, that self isn’t permanent, unchanging, or definable in some word construct, because that would have exceptions, be limiting, be binding in some unhelpful way.
You’re still the miracle of awareness having a human experience in an individual meat sack with its own personal history. You probably have preferences but you recognise they aren’t in any sense ultimately true in the way the ego wants them to be with its desire for specialness or identity.
I think it’s relatively common to have an “ego loss” experience where the sense of division, where the inner monologue drops back and you’re faced with an immediate connection with whatever’s happening with no distraction and noise in between; present moment awareness. However as evidenced I think by some of the talking heads in the video the no-self routine can also become an egoic act that wants to be seen as special.
I agree with this!
Yes, I agree. I think Rupert Spira is the most effective 'teacher' on this whole subject and I think your comment is in line with how he characterises non-duality.
this is also just another story, as is what i'm typing now. but your "present moment awareness" waffle is clearly "better" than the "no-self routine" act. congrats :)
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The moment you find yourself annoying 17:10
without silence music would just be a bunch of noise strung together
The Second Second: A castpod regarding the now of tomorrow and yesterday
The Ascent into Madness: Liberation from the insanity of sanity. Who will do the dishes? Someone has to make dinner, right?
Take the red pill so you can choose your blue pill, as opposed to having your blue pill chosen for you.
The occasional recognition that we or I have no way of understanding what is or how it came to be or anything about the origination or destination is so overwhelming I wonder if some people have avoided this recognition their whole lives. Or do most have it and avoid it. Or forget it. A useful forgetting.
Forgetting that we forgot
A list of all the things I have forgotten:
Aspiring for the Absurd
Go into show business? It does sound interesting now. Create stories. Play some part in the creation of stories.
The absurdity of seriousness: does anything matter?
I love that. Here’s my list:
@@BaciFilms Y knots and dOTS signs, per haps, eventually, all ways!!
11 minutes in..."you were born" 😅
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If it’s possible that We can merge with everything then the illusion we have of a separate self ultimately merges with everything and we all become one ? We are the illusion ? Why would the universe or the everything ie no beginning no end (I’m assuming the mathematical zero or circle ? ) split in this way ? What’s is the purpose ? I’m probably talking rubbish I’m not a scientist as you can see …..oh wait ….it’s unknowable :( So Why bother trying to pursue these questions, does it really leads to relief increased happiness and less suffering when you stop believing in meaning and purpose ? I can’t help thinking that this will not bring much relief to certain types of traumatic human experience which can often only be lived with by reframing and attaching specific meaning ascribed to it by those individuals.
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I would also point out that all I have is my experience, both sensory (internal and of the external world) and my mental activity (thoughts, feelings, etc.). Reality may be illusionary, I may be a brain in a vat, but I have nothing to support this theory. In other words, I am left to live my life as it appears to me, is presented to me, as I experience reality. To operate as if reality was different than what I experience is foolish - and even if somehow this isn't harming myself or causing me to suffer, it will tend to cause others around me (especially those who care about me) to suffer. This is unethical.
Oh dear 😒 I'm more confused now than I was before
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hope this video may help you to understand. cheers
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who's driving the dream bus? in a sense not a smart question for a mind dreaming of a dream bus---there's more value of having a feel of the ride...
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If We were an I, which We would I be? - Jen Nagle
If We were an I, you wouldn’t be you, and not being you, We could only be me!
@@kittycat1302 lol you got it!😁