Imo Charizard should have just gotten true DMG back, the moves and unite buffs are fine, but now it should take a little longer for seismic slam to build up its gauge, since it basically acts like Slowbros and mimkyus unite move.
Charizard joins the exclusive club of Pokemon who's unite moves can remove that one specific guy briefly from the game, along with Mimikyu, Slowbro and Tsareena.
At least with Tsareena, it can be countered by unstoppable. But mimikyu, it's an issue to go up against since that unite move can't be countered for some dumb reason
@@breloommaster12 basic atk of zard is different from other mons earlier muscle band use to work differently on it after band got changed using band zard is not that good idea , weakness policy or energy amp could be a better option
I’m a bit sad the charizard unite cancel meme will disappear, but at the same time now 4/5 players have a solemn judgement unite and charizard also gets a falcon punch as a normal move
@@sonfero-va8811 Muscle Band’s passive is pretty good and Charizard does a lot of A pressing. It’s a fine item. Is it necessary? No but it’s not bad either.
@@sonfero-va8811 By the way, this was before the newest patch dropped. Now Muscle procs on every enemy hit mainly in a crowd. So anything with an AOE basic can run it very well. So Charizard got better with it.
Yeah, the Unite move change is stupid. It doesn't solve the problems Charizard had. I have a positive winrate on Charizard and I can consistently carry with him. It just feels stupid that he loses 1 vs 1 against Defenders and All-rounders without his Unite Move + gets K.O. by Speedsters. He doesn't feel like an All-rounder at all. Right now Charizard feels like a sh*tty attacker, or in niche cases he can stunlock enemies as a passive Defender until he has his Unite Move which makes him temporary a raid boss. But I want Charizard to have a bit more frontline presence like a real All-rounder. He should have more defence and sp. defence to better survive Speedsters, and just a small bit of shield penetration and heal reduction on auto-attacks on burned pokemons to handle tanks better. He is broken now for the wrong reasons, and the nerf he will receive will put him in a worse position than he was before. The Unite Move was already good as it was. If failing the Unite Move was an issue, then just give Charizard invincibility as he flies back to his original position
That still prevents charizardss unite since u become invincible for a few seconds. But he can use the unite move when the shedinja doll effect is finished.
More homogenisation in Pokémon Unite to no-one's surprise... Why bother learning these not-so intricate mechanics when "balance" patches will just make everything easier for you? For example: if I ever went up against a Charizard as Urshifu, I'd choose Wicked Blow as a counter to its Unite Move, now that decision matters a lot less. And Full Heal isn't effective against it, but they won't reduce the cooldown of that though, even with all the rampant C.C. in the game.
Even so his unite is kinda trash :/ I never have issues dealing with zard so idk why everyone is making this buff a crazy big thing because it’s really not, charizard still get knocked out easy
@@Agilepickleunite skill issue tbh.....aegislah,talon,crustle,sylveon,a9....if u know to play the cards right....ninja doll has saved my ass countless times
So now brain dead players can spam the unit move more great, doesn't matter still can be crush lucky enough there wasn't a very good attacker high speed basic attk just go to show. Realistically that's the only buff needed, i mean chris here is prime example why shouldn't be buff practically spam the heck moves set from long distance giving brain dead players this ideas wasn't bad enough from when they finish using unit. Mostly seems they letting the unit be spam without having too much damage just like Slowbro can spam the heck of it but useless, unless it's for team fight or escaping.
I do not agree at all with this buff. Charizard was already good in the right hands. What they did Is increasing his strenght for the people that do not know how to use zard. Buffing Fire punch and flare blitz would have been enough. The unite buffs make no sense.
was this Unite Move Buff too much?
no he has been bad for while now and his normal damage still isn't very high
he needs atleast something good
Nahhh, the more the better 😁
Imo Tsareena needs this change too but both their unites need a longer cooldown, since its become like slowbros and mimkyus unite move
Why Delphox got buff again 😂😂😂, So anoying
@@shingwu2481 TIMI love cc moves
you cant have a bad unite move if your whole selling point is your unite move
😂
Fr
Imo Charizard should have just gotten true DMG back, the moves and unite buffs are fine, but now it should take a little longer for seismic slam to build up its gauge, since it basically acts like Slowbros and mimkyus unite move.
Or anti healing on passive which can stack with curse item.
No way. I would rather have its recent buffs reversed as well.
Charizard joins the exclusive club of Pokemon who's unite moves can remove that one specific guy briefly from the game, along with Mimikyu, Slowbro and Tsareena.
Yeah sadly. Its the most bullshit type of unite and should be removed, not added.
@@edwardrichtofen611nah that’s the best unite there’s nothing wrong with an assassin style of lock down instakill ult
Tsareena can still get cancelled
@@Agilepickleunite There's a huge problem with it when it's point and click
At least with Tsareena, it can be countered by unstoppable. But mimikyu, it's an issue to go up against since that unite move can't be countered for some dumb reason
That poor ceruledge got united four times😭
True lmao
That ceruledge was punching air 😂 he missed 4 of his unites on you, yet managed to get seismic slammed 4 times
Now it can cancel Mimi and bro ult too and req shield scoring too
Good team too! Love to see it. Unfortunate crustle wall on the talon but funny 😂
Wigglys unite move continues to grow worse every patch
I can't wait to test Charizard's Unite move on Mimikyu and Slowbro Unite
0:10 muscle band? Zand with muscle band back or it was just an error?
Pretty sure this is for farming purposes
@@breloommaster12 basic atk of zard is different from other mons earlier muscle band use to work differently on it after band got changed using band zard is not that good idea , weakness policy or energy amp could be a better option
remember when unstoppable was actually unstoppable
I’m a bit sad the charizard unite cancel meme will disappear, but at the same time now 4/5 players have a solemn judgement unite and charizard also gets a falcon punch as a normal move
Mimikyu's unite 😂😂
I think the buff is fine, it's not like it got increased damage or reduced cooldown
Does Muscle Band work on Char again? I thought they made it bad, though I might have missed something
If by work again you mean proc on each multi hit, no. One A press one Muscle proc.
@@ItzMiKeKirbY yeah, that's what I meant
Is it actually worth running it despite that though?
@@sonfero-va8811 Muscle Band’s passive is pretty good and Charizard does a lot of A pressing. It’s a fine item. Is it necessary? No but it’s not bad either.
i think he's running muscle band for early jungle clear
@@sonfero-va8811 By the way, this was before the newest patch dropped. Now Muscle procs on every enemy hit mainly in a crowd. So anything with an AOE basic can run it very well. So Charizard got better with it.
I hope this game gets resurrected to it's former glory and goes above and beyond
@@TandraRoyChowdhury-qf2eu It never had any glory to begin with lmao
I think the whole LG stuff probably nipped that in the bud. Too many coincidences is too many coincidences.
5:54
Yeah, good combo.. Crustle wall + Talon Unite move 😂😂😂😂
😂 as a talon main I hate wall crustles
That wall didn’t even matter since Trevenant walked into every hit of Talonflame’s Ult anyway.
Does that mean that shedinja doll no longer cancels charizard's alt?
No, it still can! Shedinja Doll makes you completely invincible, Charizard can grab unstoppable targets though
@@sonfero-va8811 ok, thanks.
I'm sorry to a random Garchomp that was annihilating my team during Ray and getting snatched by Charizard unite 😂
@CrisHeroes Do u think muscle band is still a good choice on Char? I have dropped it since the changes.
Does X attack work with this build as well as Full Heal?
The things Timi do to pkmns who are going to have pass skins
Now as snorlax block can’t work against a charizard unite😢
As a Snorlax main, nobody cares about Lax. Any time you mention buffing it people will laugh at you. We just have to settle for mediocrity.
Cris is about to get char solo ulted all season 😂
Yeah, the Unite move change is stupid. It doesn't solve the problems Charizard had. I have a positive winrate on Charizard and I can consistently carry with him. It just feels stupid that he loses 1 vs 1 against Defenders and All-rounders without his Unite Move + gets K.O. by Speedsters. He doesn't feel like an All-rounder at all.
Right now Charizard feels like a sh*tty attacker, or in niche cases he can stunlock enemies as a passive Defender until he has his Unite Move which makes him temporary a raid boss. But I want Charizard to have a bit more frontline presence like a real All-rounder.
He should have more defence and sp. defence to better survive Speedsters, and just a small bit of shield penetration and heal reduction on auto-attacks on burned pokemons to handle tanks better.
He is broken now for the wrong reasons, and the nerf he will receive will put him in a worse position than he was before. The Unite Move was already good as it was. If failing the Unite Move was an issue, then just give Charizard invincibility as he flies back to his original position
With muscle nerf on zard curse incese, WP o Amp could be a better choice?
Tsareena better get this change as well because this is ridiculous...
so haven't been able to confirm so far, does it cancel a slowbro unite??
Is Charizard jungle only? Kinda wanted to see these buffs help him lane.
5:55 xd
También me di cuenta, no sirvió de nada su unite jajaja
Plz try the fire punch and flare blitz build...
7:08 this is so unfair..
BTW couldn't you have just united him as he was uniting you?
and save your full heal?
Great, another mimikyu/slowbro like unite. Trios are gonna have a fun time.
We’re so chariback
no way Timi did this... These people never learn....
I saw the eevee on the thumbnail!
What about ninja doll dodge?
you can dodge with doll ofc
That still prevents charizardss unite since u become invincible for a few seconds. But he can use the unite move when the shedinja doll effect is finished.
I somehow cancelled my char unite while i miss click my unite on a mime that was already slowbro. Ulted
Try weakness pol instead of muscle band Cris
So there’s no such thing as unstoppable and invincible now? 😂
Not to charizard
Ultimate team combo: Ho-oh, Zard, Slowbro, Leafeon, Mimikyu
Is Crisheroes at the beginning of the video an ai virtual avatar 😂?
But slowbro can still unite you to stop your unite right?
Ofcourse and mimikyu too
He can but you can now save a teammate from a Slowbro or mimi unite with Charizard ult
Can you still use slowbeam on uniting Charizard?
Yes. The change only affected Charizard’s targets, not how others view Charizard as a target
What about using slowgod to unite move charizards unite move?
Only unstoppable right? What about invincible? Like Mimikyu playrough
You can't target them to unite so it doesn't work
Just hide in grass.
Then he can't basic attack you very well.
Slowbro still unite moved 3 times bruhh
🔥🔥
Falinks really dodged another nerf
Pretty sure it got nerfed??
@@elstrangeenemy887it got nerfed only to get a bug that oddly buffed it. Apparently beat up can fully heal falinks hp
@@SleepyBuggo Understandable have a nice Perma Falinks Ban in draft
@@elstrangeenemy887 if ya can get draft lol
@@SleepyBuggo I think after the update the up'd the chance again, cause I have been getting it pretty consistently
My main Mon is back xD
All Unite had to do was give Char his true DMG back 🤦🏻♂️ I’m not looking forward to playing against Charizard as a Chomp and Blastoise main.. lol
Zard is winning worlds or getting banned haha
Charizard gonna get banned too often now gg
I just want a new map in rank 😭
More homogenisation in Pokémon Unite to no-one's surprise... Why bother learning these not-so intricate mechanics when "balance" patches will just make everything easier for you?
For example: if I ever went up against a Charizard as Urshifu, I'd choose Wicked Blow as a counter to its Unite Move, now that decision matters a lot less. And Full Heal isn't effective against it, but they won't reduce the cooldown of that though, even with all the rampant C.C. in the game.
Okay he is OP now. Like wtf is this
Crisheroes might be silly or something you cant use muscle on char what a rerard
Toxic team comp
Slowbro, mimikyu, charizard.
Wait ?? 😮. Urshifu can throw Pokemon in air ???? I thought it was completely removed
It always has been
Where have you been dude
It’s never been removed???
I just got taste 💀
I hate it
Even so his unite is kinda trash :/ I never have issues dealing with zard so idk why everyone is making this buff a crazy big thing because it’s really not, charizard still get knocked out easy
Charizard video guy
Me who uses ninja doll 🗿🗿
Just delays the inevitable the most useless item unless there’s aglaceon or pika with point and click
@@Agilepickleunite skill issue tbh.....aegislah,talon,crustle,sylveon,a9....if u know to play the cards right....ninja doll has saved my ass countless times
So now brain dead players can spam the unit move more great, doesn't matter still can be crush lucky enough there wasn't a very good attacker high speed basic attk just go to show. Realistically that's the only buff needed, i mean chris here is prime example why shouldn't be buff practically spam the heck moves set from long distance giving brain dead players this ideas wasn't bad enough from when they finish using unit. Mostly seems they letting the unit be spam without having too much damage just like Slowbro can spam the heck of it but useless, unless it's for team fight or escaping.
CrisHeroes AKA Mr.StealYoCenter
I do not agree at all with this buff. Charizard was already good in the right hands. What they did Is increasing his strenght for the people that do not know how to use zard. Buffing Fire punch and flare blitz would have been enough. The unite buffs make no sense.
I would say as well that Fire Punch buff wasn't necessary at all. It was a very decent move.
Fair enough
You guys must be playing bot match
Unite move should not cancel scoring if have buffed after defeating Rayquaza.
fire punch charizard is just boring. kiting with flamethrower is peak
So you can stop slowbro unite with char unite right?