Is this amazing woman Jacqueline Rose? My god! Been reading her for years, with considerable awe and respect, but never saw her,heard her speak. Stunned by her acerbic mind and clarity of voice.
I found her talk to be mind enlarging and fascinating. A remarkable woman. One whom the state of israel should listen to carefully but never will. Truth, unpalatable, is also the right to think differently but not to act.
If Israelis listened to this woman, there would be no Israel. I suspect that would please you. Israelis, even many of the left, are not, like Rose, ahistorical. They have lived it and are wise enough to reject counsel from stooges like Rose.
So much of value here, from anecdotes about her sister among the bedouins of occupied Palestine to Freud and Said's views of Moses and the role of the stranger in group formation, to her discussion of Sylvia Plath's poem "Daddy" and its tacit identification with the Holocaust survivor experience -- countering the faux victimism of Israeli colonialist ideologues, Rose says Plath's poem cues us to what every member of a dominant group needs to do, whether they like it or no -- it is to stretch, via linguistic and conceptual imaginative identification, into what it means to be the abjected victim/survivor of dominator oppression which one (say, as propertied white male) does not likely suffer in one's relatively comfortable life.
As a literary critic and Freudian, I would always have appreciated if I could ask Ms Rose her thoughts on my much beloved late professor, Harold Bloom...
Wow. I’m in love - such a brilliant person and beautiful inside and out - an amazingly rich life combined with such an incredibly impressive mind. Also, is it just me or does the actress Rashida Jones, daughter of the stunning actress Peggy Lipton and legendary musician Quincy Jones, look a bit like Rose? Rashida has Jewish heritage through her mother’s family. Anyway just an observation - thank you for posting this brilliant conversation. Rose is utterly brilliant and breathtaking.
re: Plath's "every woman loves a fascist" and Rose's comment it may be because every woman has some element of violence in her own character -- true enough -- but what if Plath's poetic phrase there was much simpler -- that she bought into or was pressured to pretending to believe in the conventions of gender in which the male's aggressive imposing of his sexual lust is the norm of "a good marriage" that appalled her (Plath the woman, wife, poet)?
The militarization of Israel? Kinda necessary when you are attacked the moment your State is born . If you speak of returning Palestinian lands, are you (Americans) volunteering to give your home back to Native Americans? Arab states have been bent on the destruction of Jews. Not just a country, but a race. We condemn the Nazis, but convey sainthood on the Palestinians? Ever notice that the Israelis guard their people with missiles, and the Palestinians guard their missiles with people? Meanwhile Arab school children are taught to be the next exterminators of Jews.
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Is this amazing woman Jacqueline Rose? My god! Been reading her for years, with considerable awe and respect, but never saw her,heard her speak. Stunned by her acerbic mind and clarity of voice.
100%. If only there were more Jacqueline Roses in the world.
I found her talk to be mind enlarging and fascinating. A remarkable woman. One whom the state of israel should listen to carefully but never will. Truth, unpalatable, is also the right to think differently but not to act.
If Israelis listened to this woman, there would be no Israel. I suspect that would please you.
Israelis, even many of the left, are not, like Rose, ahistorical. They have lived it and are wise enough to reject counsel from stooges like Rose.
So much of value here, from anecdotes about her sister among the bedouins of occupied Palestine to Freud and Said's views of Moses and the role of the stranger in group formation, to her discussion of Sylvia Plath's poem "Daddy" and its tacit identification with the Holocaust survivor experience -- countering the faux victimism of Israeli colonialist ideologues, Rose says Plath's poem cues us to what every member of a dominant group needs to do, whether they like it or no -- it is to stretch, via linguistic and conceptual imaginative identification, into what it means to be the abjected victim/survivor of dominator oppression which one (say, as propertied white male) does not likely suffer in one's relatively comfortable life.
Jacqueline Rose on Zionism, Freud, Sylvia Plath and more at the Melbourne Writers Festival 2013.
As a literary critic and Freudian, I would always have appreciated if I could ask Ms Rose her thoughts on my much beloved late professor, Harold Bloom...
Wow. I’m in love - such a brilliant person and beautiful inside and out - an amazingly rich life combined with such an incredibly impressive mind. Also, is it just me or does the actress Rashida Jones, daughter of the stunning actress Peggy Lipton and legendary musician Quincy Jones, look a bit like Rose? Rashida has Jewish heritage through her mother’s family. Anyway just an observation - thank you for posting this brilliant conversation. Rose is utterly brilliant and breathtaking.
I cannot follow the argument. It seems to be all over the place.
re: Plath's "every woman loves a fascist" and Rose's comment it may be because every woman has some element of violence in her own character -- true enough -- but what if Plath's poetic phrase there was much simpler -- that she bought into or was pressured to pretending to believe in the conventions of gender in which the male's aggressive imposing of his sexual lust is the norm of "a good marriage" that appalled her (Plath the woman, wife, poet)?
Is that Jordan Peterson at 24:01 👀👀👀👀👀👀
Sublime... DCN
Interesting how sad monosyllabic and bovine the (male) dismissals are. Two “sillies” then straight to cussin’! Dinosaurs teeter.
The sister of Gillian.
The militarization of Israel? Kinda necessary when you are attacked the moment your State is born . If you speak of returning Palestinian lands, are you (Americans) volunteering to give your home back to Native Americans? Arab states have been bent on the destruction of Jews. Not just a country, but a race. We condemn the Nazis, but convey sainthood on the Palestinians?
Ever notice that the Israelis guard their people with missiles, and the Palestinians guard their missiles with people? Meanwhile Arab school children are taught to be the next exterminators of Jews.
When a small woman recommends Edward Said, you know you are dealing with a demagogue.
was this comment written by a person or a bot? or by the PR department of the far right Israeli government?
Rose is ne0 pro-rope
Bullshit!
Silly woman posing as a wise one. She's not. Self-loathing is not attractive.
You're an idiot.
@@julesgleeson1237 Is our blind Jewishness showing?
@@stephenkutos9072 Fuck off, hasbarist.
This person isn't learned, erudite, and contemplative? If you deny that she is, that's about the most anti-Jewish judgment I can imagine...
Bore-yeh thinks he can determine who is a good Jew...and it's him. Surprise!