First movie reaction!! Iron Man is a lot more realistic then most people would think, but there's some glaring engineering problems with the suit that are tough to solve. I hope you guys enjoy the video!! Timestamps: 0:28 - Palladium 0:59 - 3 gigajoules per second 2:38 - Initialize Power Sequence 3:34 - First suit 5:21 - Flight 6:26 - Inorganic discharge/Plasma 7:59 - Building second suit 8:40 - JARVIS 10:27 - Ice build up 11:21 - Supersonic 12:20 - Ear Cannon
Kinda a dumb question but with the prosthetic limbs you were talking about if you get hit in a prosthetic limb would your brain cause you to feel the pain or would you not be able to feel it because there are no nerves in the limb?
@@tonyangelo3836 That is a not at all a dumb question, it's a very interesting one actually!! With the prosthetic limb, you could be able to move your 5 fingers if it was a prosthetic arm, but the fingers themselves would not have the sense of touch. You could leave your prosthetic hand in boiling water (wouldn't recommend) and you would not feel it. Your nerves are only sending signals from your brain to the arm, not from your arm to your brain. If you were to get hit on a prosthetic limb, you would not feel pain in that limb.
And about Jarvis, he says in Avengers Age of Ultron that Jarvis started as a “natural language interface” and “now runs more business than anyone besides Pepper”.
To be fair to Tony Stark and the writers of the movie, I don't recall them ever calling JARVIS an AI. The name is actually an acronym in the films for "Just Another Rather Very Intelligent System."
you could argue that in the MCU, once JARVIS becomes Vision he becomes a "full" AI, but the presence of the mind stone complicates that since it's magical in nature. Ultron is a much more definitive example of AI.
8:40 JARVIS is an AI, not a UI. Keep in mind in Age of Ultron tony says JARVIS was keeping nuclear codes out of ultrons grasp and rewriting them frequently without Tony ever telling him to.
This video is actually important as an electrical engineering student. All I've done is read boring books all day. But seeing those theories being used to explain concepts in mcu. Is a once in a lifetime opportunity for me
Exactly. Had to watch the beginning montage in Iron Man to verify. This is the award-winning robot Tony built while in MIT, the school he graduated at 17. My guess is he was just so attached to it. Or it helped his process, perhaps. Anyway, despite making it wear a dunce hat, he salvaged it from the wreckage of his Malibu home in Iron Man 3.
Really the “magic” of how Iron Man’s tech even works is his arc reactor. Tony _somehow_ was able to reproduce the energy output of a nuclear reactor to fit in a teacup. And it’s what allows his suit enough energy to fly and produce enough thrust to go super sonic.
arc reactor is indeed magical but it complies with real life physics, if you could use all energy in something that small you can definitely get more than enough energy output, someone even did maths with just 1g of material and physics does allow that as result was something in range of 100 000 gj/s but just because you can get that kind of energy output it doesn't mean you can use it for all applications, like the nuclear power stations that we got expel energy into liquid, which then evaporates and drive dynamo to generate electricity but same thing can't be used for flight, as to attain flight you require to push something so conservation of momentum will apply equal and opposite force, thus allowing you to overcome constant gravitation pull. This is how all of our flight based technology works, all type of air planes suck all the available air and then push it out, thus air pushes back the air plane, all rockets carry their own supply of materials to push off but Tony's suit doesn't do anything like this, there are no vents that suck air and push it out nor are there any tanks to carry its own material.
@@DearHRS I am pretty sure the initial suit (Mk2 and Mk3) heats up the air around the "repulsers" to generate thrust (making them a kind of propulsion equipment), it wouldn't work in space though but it's a cool idea and could help mitigate the overheating problem since you got like a huge heat sink in the chest piece and 4 auxiliary heat sinks to compensate for the energy dissipation of the ark generator.
If you watch the movies there has been multiple times when Tony has passed out when his suit malfunctions, maybe the oxygen is in the helmet. This character was written before we had most of our technology today so you gotta keep that in mind.
@@thenothingking Tony didn't pass out due to a lack of air. We know this because at the beginning of 2012's _The Avengers_ he's seen wearing the Iron Man suit while working underwater. He passed out because he consumed all available suit power redirecting the nuke into space; power that he needs to keep the shrapnel out of his heart.
@@BigJwlz from what was shown in the movie.... It will still take about a week for the shrapnel to reach his heart without the reactor..... He won't exactly pass out without it since the reactor only powers the electromagnet and the suit NOT his body...... I think lack of oxygen is the main reason
11:44 Supersonic flight capable aircraft have existed since the 1950s. 12:05 The Iron Man suit is pressurized. You can hear him talk about it with Jarvis when he's discussing how to deal with the Icing problem he had with the Mark 2 suit: _Hull pressurization is problematic. I'm thinking icing is the problem._
A lot of engineers talk about how dangerous Tony's ark reactor is for his body due to the components in it but the directors do cover that in Iron Man 2, ya know when it's poisoning him
It is different. At Iron Man 2 they said the decaying products of the palladium is what is poisoning him, but what everyone says is that if such reactor can make that ungodly amount of energy, it would get really hot and cook Tony.
I'm eletrical engineer myself specialized in hydraulic turbine and what was stated about the reactor is 100% true. I giggled when I saw that part of the movie the first time. A common hydraulic turbine of good size produces 300MW of power, which is 0.3gigawatts, which means 10 times LESS powerful than the arc reactor he built. Now these tubines are state of the art in term of efficiency in the world of electric motors. We are talking 99% efficiency, with only 1% loss in heat. Nonetheless, 1% of 300MW is 3 fucking million watts. Have you ever tried unscrewing a light bulb when powered on? You can barely touch it due to the heat, and this is 60 watts. Imagine what 3 000 000 watts would do. Unless his reactor is 100% efficiency, 0 power loss, no one could even stand in the same room as this reactor without proper cooling system in place.
Tony does have fuel. The materials they gave him to work with included missiles and rockets that have their own propellant. He just repurposed it. Going supersonic is just a matter of thrust and integrity of the object. If the suit can generate the required thrust, and not vibrate itself apart, it can absolutely go supersonic. It's probably got a fairly wide shock cone given the blunt nature of the helmet compared to a fighter jet's tapered and swept nose. G force is a major component as there is a person in the suit, but fighter pilots actually wear flight suits that include bladders of air around their calfs and forearms. At high gs they inflate to squeeze blood back toward the core of the body. This could easily be integrated into the iron man suit. As for oxygen, he has thrusters in his feet that take up less than 10 cubic inches... we're just supposed to "he geniused it."
He prob didn't need to repurpose it, the fuel was used for thrust even in the missiles and rockets. Idk where he would keep the fuel in the suit even if he had it available.
OK, so there are two aerospace engineers in our family and the thing about going supersonic is what does the suit do about the heat from all that. Metal parts start to expand, plastic starts to flow, circuits short out and go off line, the person/pilot suffers burns and then passes out all unless you can vent that heat and computer chips die from to much heat heat. As an example the SR-71's fuel system is constantly leaking fuel while the plane is sitting on the ground and or flying at anything less than supersonic but once it hits anything over Mach 2 that system expands and seal up tight. It then slows down to mid air refuel while the seals are warm and tight and then continues with its mission with full tanks of fuel. At the speeds we normally face in every day life our atmo seems nice and thin and easy to deal with and it is but once you cross that sound barrier lots of things change and that air becomes as dense as cement. Also that suit is so small it does not have space for all the fuel it would need, life support systems, weapon systems, sensor systems, navigation and avionics needed and so on. But heck it is just a cartoon and as the producer Bellisario always says, "don't look to close".
@@John-iv2oz That last bit is key... there's just enough realism to feel grounded, but not so much that they have to answer actual physics questions. That would kinda destroy the entire point. :D Though I'm sure we could probably come up with some yada-yadas on how he did it. I mean he did have that special alloy that resists icing from the Seraphim Tactical Satellites his company had built. Star Trek got around quantum mechanics by inventing the "Heisenberg Compensators" for the transporters as well as Inertial Dampening Fields to circumvent, well, inertia.
Iron man released in 2008 This man waits till 2019 until he becomes an engineer to watch it He names the video "engineer watching iron man" Objective accomplished 🎉
As for the paralysis of the device that was used on Tony they actually have that already in nature and that’s what it emulates. In adult tigers for instants they have the ability to do a deafening roar which affects some people so much when the cat roars it paralyzes those that hear it within a certain radius because it disrupts the equilibrium through the hearing.
A couple of things: 1. I think it's understood that the he uses repulsar technology to fly, which is never thoroughly explained but which is used not just in his suit, but later in the helicarriers in Winter Soldier. It's also the same thing he used to fire his blasts, so it's hard to quantify exactly how it operates. 2. Actually, Jarvis IS an AI. He is both an AI and a UI. He can do things on his own volition, but my guess is, there are "safety" protocols in the Jarvis AI from you know... just taking over world - like Ultron. If you watched Age of Ultron, you will see that Jarvis does actually do things on his own once he is "displaced." My guess is, Jarvis does tons of things on his own by through some sort of learning algorithm that Stark created. For instance, Jarvis makes comments on Stark's decisions "You're usually so subtle" or in Ironman 3 "You had glutton free waffles" when Stark says he doesn't even remember what he had for breakfast.
My best guess is he confused GAI with AI (GAI means General Artificial intelligence... It's something that fits more into his explanation of AI, which doesn't require user inputs)
Jarvis, through being damaged by Ultron, and eventually combined with the Mind Stone, does become an AI as Vision. Advanced enough to understand and feel emotion
I also agree that this movie was way more realistic than some people may expect. I reacted to the Aerospace Engineering elements specifically on my channel and I found similar things that you did. Good Explanations 👏
9:29 UI stands for User Interface. Jarvis is an Intelligent System. Other examples of intelligent systems are things like factory automation. Things like the google assistant and Siri are Expert Systems.
The ability to fly is the fictitious part of iron man, he himself mentioned to have created this new revolutionary technology "repulsors" wich are used in the Jericho missiles at first, then he applied it to the Mark II. The source of the fuel to fly in the Mark I I assume is the same of the flamethrower equiped in the suit, even tho the types of fuels used for it are very different from rocket fuel, I'm sure Stark had a way to adapt that. The way the repulsors work is completely fictional until now, I have no idea how we could develop something like that. The other mysterious part of the suits is the arc reactor, such a powerful device would be impressive to see in real life. Excellent video btw, subscribed.
Good call on the flamethrower fuel! I did not think of that! The Jericho missile was only in the air for...5 seconds before it divided into many smaller missiles? I'm sure he could increase the airtime the missile could have so it can cover a longer distance but even if that were the case, what is that max time? 10min? 15min? If it's the same technology, I don't know how he's able to fly in the Iron Man suit for more then 10-15min at once. Tony is also flying at different speeds while in the suit which will have an impact on how long he's able to stay in the air, but the faster he goes, the more fuel he's burning. I also don't have a solid understanding of how these repulsors work in the MCU, there's for sure someone who knows more then I do and I wish he/she would comment here and straighten it out ahah
@@parychahal Repulsors work by pushing away stuff without any undesired heat. They are used in the second stage of the Jericho missiles, when they "break apart into little pieces" they fly away using the repulsors. Stark tested them on his boots first but then when trying to stabilize the flight by using hand repulsors he discovered they could be used as a weapon too, by pushing away enemies in a non lethal way. They can also be used in a lethal way by concentrating the repulsor energy into a beam that can even cut stuff. ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Repulsors_(film)
@@parychahal The repulsors are also supposed to work without any fuel, just using the electricity produced by the arc reactor. "The repulsors work by taking excess electrons and turn them into muons, which have ability to penetrate deep into atomic matter, which are then fed into hands and chest piece of any iron man suit. Muon is an elementary particle similar to the electron, with an electric charge of −1 e and a spin of 1/2, but with a much greater mass." Source: www.quora.com/How-does-the-Iron-Man-s-repulsor-work It all boils down to the energy source and the fantasy of the way it a is handled, I don't even know how the process of transforming electrons into muons can be placed into such a small device.
Stay away from this tech kid !!! You don't have enough hairs on your ass to understand Stark tech !!! Iron Man suit is 1000% Real !!! Its something that in fictious world , Tony Stark knows and in Real World , Only I know !!! All concepts of this dumb engineer does work !!!
The Iron man armor is able to fly using a new technology (repulsors, designed for rockets) tony created. It’s basically just a really compact powerful thruster.
With the paralysis device it's possible there are subtler things going on than just the sound. The sound might be just a byproduct of the device being on, like how a car's purpose isn't to make car noises. It does seem to require close proximity to the ears, which is why Stane isn't affected, but it might just need to be close to the head. I know strong magnets can affect brain activity in some pretty crazy ways, maybe it uses magnets.
When I watched this video I was waiting for the scene where Obadiah is shouting to one of his guys to make the arc reactor. Still, nice informative video! 👍👍👍
Actually Jarvis is an ai not a ui, for example he asks Tony if he wants him to do certain things, that are completely up to Jarvis to ask. For example he might ask Tony is he wants a dinner reservation at a restaurant nearby without any input or programming.
Yes, Jarvis demonstrates independent thinking quite often, and often must carry out tasks where Tony gives him only very high level instruction, and the details are left to Jarvis to figure out.
I think by plasma he is referring to blood plasma. Sir is it possible to have a Ironman helmet. And also Jarvis understand's stark so he is an AI and an UI.
@@parychahal Fanfic reader here again, so what I'm seeing from more from that than movies or comics. JARVIS was designed with a thinking algorithm, made to learn and grow, much as a child would. Tony had J watch Hal and other thinking/controlling computer movies to learn what NOT to do.
Good question. Stark knew there was only one outcome (Dr Strange told him in Infinity war) and committed to making mach 85 which would essentially harness the stones for the snap. That was 'the mission.'
I see most of the people in here are very uninformed about propulsion systems and armor stuff.. The iron man suit's hydraulics might be possible but a flight system? No just no.. i can bet on it, Theres no fuel which is powerful enough to lift a suit that heavy while having an efficiency so big that you wont have to carry big tanks full of that fuel. And about the armor, again theres no possibility of making an armor so dense to stop 30 mm rounds and 115 mm rounds from the cannon of a tank... Just impossible.. even super dense materials like depleted uranium arent strong enough to take on multiple 30 mm rounds and we are talking about an armor which is just an inch thick so it wouldn't be possible for it to withstand that much force and energy from powerful munitions like 25,30,115,120 mm rounds and rockets
Adding to this, I’ve always found that the aerodynamics of the suit don’t work. You can’t, as far as I’m aware, move forward so fast that you don’t fall. Planes do it because they have wings that do some weird air magic to lift the plane upward. Iron Man don’t got wings. The closest thing to flying a suit like this could ever do is hover the way Tony did during the test flight. Add wings to it, and maybe it can happen, but then it drastically changes the suit, and I wouldn’t consider it an Iron Man suit anymore. Without flight, anything we make will be much more akin to the mjolnir armor from Halo, minus energy shields.
Wings aren’t always needed. To help direct it in different directions? Yes. It was displayed in the movie multiple time to turn, and brake. To keep it up and going straight. You just simply have a slight angle of propulsion to aim up. At high speeds, every slight adjustment is more dramatic. So falling isn’t a problem. No tanks needed if you use electrolysis. You create energy as you go. A lot of fuel will be needed yes, but IF...IF you have a batterie that can continue to make that energy, it’s possible. They are currently developing a quantum batterie that also creates energy as it operates. So heat isn’t a “issue”. Things are involving better over time.
@@maxherrin2764 you have no idea what your Talkin about, wings are a must for a efficient sustained flight if you will use the energy from the suit for propulsion so that your suit stays in an angle and doesn't starts "falling" down it would decrease the efficiency by atleast 300 to 400% comparing with the flight systems attached on a wing design and as for fuel.. Electrolysis is literally the worst idea, why? See electrolysis is a very slow process it doesn't gives out enough fuel in a particular amount of time so that we can use it as a reliable source of energy nor does it gives out a fuel pure enough for actual use in propulsion like for example there's this youtuber russian guy who made a repulsor thing which was fueled by a electrolysis chamber feeding the whole system on Hydrogen gas (flammable) but the fuel wasn't dense or very pure hence could only be used in that hand-held repulsor torch thing and not for the propulsion systems.. as it wouldn't create required amount of force to lift a heavy suit in the air along with you
Tony built his helper (Dum-E) as a kid in 1986. He apparently never upgraded it beyond the voice control you mention. Probably some level of nostalgia there or considering it as a pet or something. Still awesome for when it was built.
Okay so there is a fluid that is used in make up and hair care products, and it is referred to as plasma. Also there was test they were working on where you have a cone that leads in to an over hanging lip and you had to shoot a high power laser perfectly at the tip of the cone and the laser was supposed to travel evenly across the surface. As the laser curves through the overhanging lip, it super heats the air and makes a puff of plasma. So that in a movie could be the way that it worked, now you just need energy to power it!
Just came across your channel as I love Ironman and finished watching all of the avengers movies so I was curious. I’m a bio major and feel like changing to something else because I don’t feel motivated to go through with biology anymore. I’m good at math and chemistry and love to make/fix things, I was wondering if you have a suggestion for a few majors I’d potentially be interested/do well in?
I would recommend Biomedical Engineering if your university offers it. I'm not sure how keen you are on coding; if you like it, I'd recommend Electrical Engineering (it's a good mix of hardware and software) If you don't care for it, Mechanical Engineering may interest you. With coding, there are many free software and youtube tutorials available for you to be at home and try coding for yourself to gauge your interest.
The Gold Life alright thank you! Sorry for the late reply but I remember trying coding in middle school and I didn’t like it that much. I think Mechanical Engineering should be the best for me!
From what I remember of the film. He was using his own weaponry mainly rockets/ missels and breaking them down to create the ironman suit. So rocket propellent and the casing and nozzles would have been available to him. This is not true of further iterations of the suit. Propulsion in later versions came from individual arc reactors that emitted energy straight from their cores and used as a weapon. It's a comic book man. Don't have to be real.
The excess heat issue is probably the most difficult to solve if we ever get close to building a real life Iron Man suit. I suppose flight _could_ be effected by ducting air into the suit and superheating it to generate thrust, kind of like the "nuclear ramjet" concept that was envisioned in the Cold War era? As for JARVIS, that's pretty near what I picture as the pinnacle of interactive UI with smart capabilities that at least _approach_ a universal artificial intelligence, since it is capable of inferring complex instructions from natural language input.
I don't watch these movies but Whenever youtube recommend these movie scenes I break into laughter!!! Clearly you forget to turn off your logic mode when you don't watch these movie scenes and accidentally bump into it
Fuel was used for the flame throwers and jet boots of the first suit, they showed the fuel tanks in the creation of the suit. The mini arc reactor just powered the servos motors and stuff, all the electronics.
@Aldin Diez no he didn’t technically defeat ultron but he played a major part into doing so and if he didn’t break ultron down from the inside they wouldn’t have been able to defeat him
Kudos for pointing out that Iron man would pass out in super sonic flight, but you're not entirely right about the need for oxygen. Tony would need some form of g suit to help his blood flow - that's the main thing for not passing out, along with oxygen mask
the word plasma is used for a different context here (like plasma membrane) that happens in science a lot. He uses ion propulsion system of some kind that uses the power from arc reactor, that is how he produce thrust.
I think in The Avengers (2012), JARVIS is already an AI since he called Pepper Potts when Tony was about to enter the wormhole, and Tony didn't even tell him to do so.
He is wearing a sci-fi concept called powered armor. Powered armor is basically just a suit of armor (what they used in antient times of castels and swords). But as you can guess armor is weight heavy. The powered part is that arc reactor provides power so the suit is no longer heavy it simply moves with you. There is also a translation (suit) some system that translates his movements to the ironman armor. He flies because his arc reactor put out thrust via energy it self. The suit is shootimg plasma (Iiomed air as its thrust). As far as burning his chest I think we are meant to understand that his chest has a mental cavity where the magnet sits. He just replaced the car battery with arc reactor.So the cavaity is limed with metal to protect him, however doesn't metal conduct heat?
1. Actually if those were military shells (bullets), they are usually steel jacketed (Police/civilian/defense rounds are usually coper jacketed and game rounds are usually lead based). So he'd need a steel that exceeds the toughness of the steel in the bullet jacket. 2. As far as the rockets, he did tear apart at least two missiles for the palladium. It's possible he repurposed the solid boost rockets (I assume the type) used in them
6:02 it's possible Tony input some sort of rocket propelling devices into the suit considering the suit is just made up of a bunch of dismantled stark weapons like missiles and such. It would also explain why the suit stopped flying mid air because he burned up all the fuel he put into the suit
The reason it discharges plasma is because it’s a fusion reactor. That also solves the heating problem, as most of the heat in a fusion reactor is in the plasma. The walls get cooled by liquid helium or lithium, therefore reducing heat that can get out of the reactor.
The cave suits probably had electric jet engines of some kind, and the smoke was burning gasses from the explosions got sucked in. The Repulsers are just pure sci-fi tho
Aye The Golden Life, @~4:55-5secs. You mentioned density of metal needs to be greater than a lead bullet. Dunno if you forgot or dismiss it but modern bullets are copper housings with lead in the middle, solid copper, or solid steel. Black powder guns like flint locks or muskets use lead bullets. Depending on bullet caliber can determine how much gun powder is placed I side which also determines ibs. The fictional bullets used in the movie were maybe .308 civilian grade. Which can penetrate basic steels. Like the one of the Mk-1 Ironman suit.
JARVIS is maybe both UI and AI, as just seen in this video that it is UI. But when you see Iron Man 3, after Mansion Attack, JARVIS takes him to a city which he had flight for in couple of hours, and at that time Tony was unconscious. So, JARVIS had a memory of Stark going to that city through flight, but instead he took decision and took him in his Suit. (inshort, JARVIS does take decision...)
I think that the way that tony flies with the first suit is with some type of thruster . The only reason he would have a thruster is because he was captured by those people to make missiles for them. So I think he used the missile thrusters for him to push off the ground.
Currently, (2022) there are electronic plasma jet engines. So it seems Stark was ahead of the curve. It seems like his suits are air tight, and the only air that is allowed to travel through them is from the thrusters and repulsors.
I am also an EE, and a fan of Iron Man and quite a few things that could be interpreted a bit different. 1. Palladium is not atomic and cannot produce this much energy without fusion (3GJ/s) Which as you know is not reality today as a tech and Palladium is not fusion-able 2. Suit uses Jerico Rocket solid boosters to fly remember he took apart a Jerico rocket. The part that does not make sense is how he can steer it without any of the rudders. (how was he expecting to land?) 3. Impact in sand with that much mass and velocity from the height he was; when he landed would have killed him dead 100%. You can calculate the G's and its over 1000 G. 4. Inorganic discharge suggests that the reactor is producing a chemical reaction with byproducts not elemental. None of the movies or comics can reconcile this. 5. Building the second suit in that many little pieces of metal that move like that with intricate movements will produce an overall weak overall suit strength. It won't be bullet-proof let alone fly. 6. Having all small parts made from a metal that is light enough to fly and strong enough to be bulletproof does not exist. 7. Supersonic flight will introduce so much heat into the structure he will cook like a hotdog in foil. 8. Let alone all metals will fail if heated to this level structurally as thin as they are shown in the movie. He couldn't hold up his head, turning it will snap his head off his shoulders and arms off his body at 1/4 these speeds. This suit will disintegrate with him in it. Let alone having control over supersonic flight to out-maneuver two F22's again without any ailerons and wings just not possible. 9. Jarvis would require a computer the size of a room to do those supercomputer calculations at the speeds it does in the movie. Even if Jarvis was ground based and accessed through a communication module, there would be lapses in range and altitude and the speed of those transfers of that much data are not possible with today's telecommunication devices to circumnavigate the globe in space with full high speed data to run a supercomputer. My Electronic Engineering degree is in Telecom emphasis. 10. Easy enough to beat the ice with 3.3GJ/s you can make hot exo-suit to melt the ice, warm the person inside and thats not even using NASA insulation tech like ceramic coatings, Aspen Aerogel insulation and vacuum sealing the body in a temperature controlled chamber. This is the most probable to fix out of the problems outlined here. 11. The military has these weapons already, that can incapacitate people non lethally using different kinds of sound waves. DARPA made a lot of this tech. They were going to use it in crowd control but ultimately deemed it inhumane treatment. 12. The most improbable part of the suit is the repulsior tech. If it was powerful enough to do what it does in the movie, Tony's arm would snap off every time he fired it at someone. For every pound of force forward, there is a pound pushing back on his arm. If you have enough force to knock a man back 50 ft then that is how much force is pushing on one arm. Can a man hit someone with enough force to knock him back 50 feet with one arm? No. His arm would be shattered. And if you are supposing that the suit takes the force then there is still a problem in the fact that he does not weigh enough to not move an inch with that much force applied to his body stationary. He would fly back
Very cool vid. One note though, he did build the suite out of missiles and if looked at closely the legs are quite bulky. Possibly storage for rocket fuel. It was also not disigned for sustained flight. Only burst.
Neurolink tech was developed way back in the '70s, right? If I recall correctly, German engineers were experimenting on prototype cybernetic limbs with neural sensors attached to the pads connecting the prosthesis to the shoulder. Another experiment was done, I think, by the united states. The experiment involved enabling blind people to see again, albeit in the form of dots. They attach nerve implants to the optic nerves in the base of the subject's skull and connect it to a computer that was programmed to project a sequence of dots directly into the subject's brain. It was awesome.🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Plasma/gas from the reactor is channeled to the stabilizers as an exhaust. When he powers up the stabilizers the heat they produce ignites the plasma/gas and allows for propulsion. I’m with you though on the power/heat issue. He would have about 12.9 billion BTU’s present at the chest piece which has a relative volume of roughly .25 cubic feet. Not only would the suit instantly melt around him but he would not have even been able to make the reactor in the first place.
Regarding his "Flight" at 5:21 Most of the smoke and fire behind Tony, is due to the weapons that the terrorists had stolen from Stark Technologies, which Tony lit on fire with his arm-flamethrower. The propulsion itself, is powered by his Repulsor technology, which he said earlier on in the film was a part of the Jericho missile system (which is what Tony rebuilt for use as his first suit). So the trail behind Tony while he's in the air, is the Repulsor tech which does give off a bit of "exhaust". The fire and smoke, are from the exploding weapons.
About the thrust. What about if he found away to use the energy produced by the arc reactor to somehow use the air around him to create thrust? Like a turbine but with altering the electric charge of the atoms going through?
the plasmatic discharge could possibly be from the nuclear gama radiation being used to ionize the palladium to generate an electrical charge in a simular fashion to a miniaturized nuclear particle excelerator power plant, or the scientific term for the arc reactor is a radio isotopic decay cell
By the way, he does have fuel in his suit. He has some on his risk for his flamethrower and some on the back of his suit. You can see the tanks on his back.
I’m sure he thought he could handle the ice because the suit is temperature controlled from the inside. He didn’t realize the suit would shut down from the ice on the outside
It occurs to me that the sound of nails on chalkboard can make your body sort of lock up for a moment, so that paralysis device could be the result of extensive studying of that effect. The tone the device used seemed to be around that kind of pitch, too.
Iron flight uses the repulsors located on his hands and feet to create the thrust. These are insinuated to be akin to ion boosters or thrusters. I’ll let the engineers worry about the plausibility of that. For that’s how it “works”.
keeping in mind the Shell is from the missiles his company made, it is possible the shell is bullet proof. keeping the arc reactor open was probably a way to release some of the heat produced by the reactor to the surrounding to help TS regulate the heat emitted. NB: my PoV, not a validated or the main reason.
7:25. When pepper has her hand in the arc reactor. Well. I’m not an engineer but I am a biologist. To have that in his chest would have required a list things being discarded from his body longer than my arm. That would have had a negative dovetail effect on many other parts of his body. So yeah, not possible, for that space to just be occupied by the reactor without having to compromise many other parts of the body. In real life. Let’s say the reactor is doing what it does in the movie. That would mean his heart is completely exposed. As the skeletal structure in that location would have been completely altered and frankly, weakened. Meaning. One strong push to the chest, assuming he was even standing an able to function normally, would more than likely kill him. The heart is VERY guarded. And it for a reason. When pepper puts her hand inside it goes deep enough to actually go past the heart. So that was for film purposes as well. This is one of the semi few stories where marvel hasn’t explained how he could have something like that in his chest without being a hair away from death at all times. Then again. The MCU has changed a LOT about Spider-Man. And I’m no where near an iron man comic expert, but I do claim to be a Spider-Man fanatic. So perhaps in the comics that I haven’t seen it’s just on the surface of his skin.
Almost forgot, I wanted to add that the Arc reactor in his chest being super hot should really be irrelevant. That's like saying that a car engine would burn down a car just by using it or a jet engine will burn a fighter jet down just because it's sitting at the rear. Technically all these items have cooling devices and systems and for that suit to exist in the require the same type of system to reject heat from the item being that is not perfect even though the art reactor I believe was supposed to be a nearly perfect and efficient clean energy source however if it generated any heat then cooling systems should be able to cool it off so it wouldn't burn his chest just like you need in a jet or car you have heating and air conditioning to make them comfortable. This will be no different and the engine would have its own cooling system so it won't burn the machine up itself or burn the engine up itself and have it meltdown for that matter...
Theres two options for tony taking off. The more logical one is that he had access to all the rocket motors and explosives of the bombs and missiles he disassembled for the making of the suit. The other, less likely one would be the use of Hall Effect Thrusters. Electrically driven Ion Thrusters as are used on sattelites and small spacecraft.
I have some theory. The movie describe his suits thrusters as ion thrusters/blasters witch are a real thing. However in the modern day they are fairly weak outside space vacuum environments. In order to feasibly make one produce the thrust that tony's does is by having a power source as strong as the arc reactor
Going to assume the suit he is in is insulated in some sort of way with how advanced it is, so the hypothermia I don’t think would be the first issue with altitude climbing , maybe oxygen starvation unless the suit has a reservoir or technology that condenses the sparse oxygenated atmosphere
The arc reactor is covered in plexiglass later on in the movie then later in the series he has something else covering it but by endgame it’s just for looks and the unibeam
In the first suit he made he did have fuel. He literally built it from missile parts and you can see canisters on his back and pilot lights on his arms. In later suits, I guess if there really is that much energy, he could be using some kind of ionising technology to produce thrust.
What I don't understand is how can the suit protects Tony from impacts. Like when he fell after he escaped while using his first Iron Man Suit. Why he was not injured while Rhodey got paralyzed from falling in Civil War. I know Tony fell on sand and stuff but can it really absorbed all that impact? The main point here, I don't see any cushioning material inside the suit. You try build a motorcycle helmet with the strongest metal. It won't fully protect your head unless there are some cushioning materials inside.
Late to the party, but here's my take on how a suit could fly without on-board fuel tanks: The "jets" discharge high energy arcs that ionize the gas around them, which is then pushed away by an electromagnetic field. It would be horribly inefficient, and generate so much heat that the user would probably suffer serious burns with extended use, but that's already a problem the reactor itself seems to ignore.
Hypothermia takes minutes to set in, and the difference in temperature between the suit and the outside air could condense the water vapor in the air onto his armor and freeze it practically instantly due to the same physics that allows snowmakers to function above 0 degrees Celcius.
First movie reaction!! Iron Man is a lot more realistic then most people would think, but there's some glaring engineering problems with the suit that are tough to solve. I hope you guys enjoy the video!!
Timestamps:
0:28 - Palladium
0:59 - 3 gigajoules per second
2:38 - Initialize Power Sequence
3:34 - First suit
5:21 - Flight
6:26 - Inorganic discharge/Plasma
7:59 - Building second suit
8:40 - JARVIS
10:27 - Ice build up
11:21 - Supersonic
12:20 - Ear Cannon
a really good, point on reaction. good references to science. well done :D
@@minidude112 Thank you very much!!
Kinda a dumb question but with the prosthetic limbs you were talking about if you get hit in a prosthetic limb would your brain cause you to feel the pain or would you not be able to feel it because there are no nerves in the limb?
@@tonyangelo3836 That is a not at all a dumb question, it's a very interesting one actually!! With the prosthetic limb, you could be able to move your 5 fingers if it was a prosthetic arm, but the fingers themselves would not have the sense of touch. You could leave your prosthetic hand in boiling water (wouldn't recommend) and you would not feel it. Your nerves are only sending signals from your brain to the arm, not from your arm to your brain. If you were to get hit on a prosthetic limb, you would not feel pain in that limb.
@@parychahal can make a viseo in which u react on iron man's infinity war nano technology suit plsssssssssss
And about Jarvis, he says in Avengers Age of Ultron that Jarvis started as a “natural language interface” and “now runs more business than anyone besides Pepper”.
Yeah I've been convinced he's an incomplete AI. An example of a complete AI is Ultron
Interesting..
To be fair to Tony Stark and the writers of the movie, I don't recall them ever calling JARVIS an AI. The name is actually an acronym in the films for "Just Another Rather Very Intelligent System."
you could argue that in the MCU, once JARVIS becomes Vision he becomes a "full" AI, but the presence of the mind stone complicates that since it's magical in nature. Ultron is a much more definitive example of AI.
@@parychahal I mean he scrambled nuclear codes on his own in the age of ultron when Ultron "destroyed" him, I doubt tony programmed him to do that.
Real panther watching black panther
Real God watching Thor
Real spider watching Spider-Man
Real hulk watching hulk
Feminist watches Captain Marvel
@@xwispr oof..
“I love iron man, I can’t wait for endgame” wait till he finds out
Oh no
I don't have the heart to tell him...
I was thinking the same and came down to comments to see if anyone else was, 👍
LoL
Oh dear
8:40 JARVIS is an AI, not a UI. Keep in mind in Age of Ultron tony says JARVIS was keeping nuclear codes out of ultrons grasp and rewriting them frequently without Tony ever telling him to.
Yeah it is artificial intelligence.. jarvis basically learns from things and people... how world works etc..
He's and AI...
Yes jarvis is an Ai and Ui. Cmiiw peace✌
but tony him self says to banner that java is UI
Jarvis - just a rather very intelligent system
This video is actually important as an electrical engineering student. All I've done is read boring books all day. But seeing those theories being used to explain concepts in mcu. Is a once in a lifetime opportunity for me
8:24 That arm was actually one of the first things that Tony built when he was young, maybe that's why it doesn't work well
good point
Ya and he never rebuilt dumb-e and dumb-u until spiderman homecoming . Love for machine he din't wanted to do an operation on his bestie😂
Exactly. Had to watch the beginning montage in Iron Man to verify. This is the award-winning robot Tony built while in MIT, the school he graduated at 17. My guess is he was just so attached to it. Or it helped his process, perhaps. Anyway, despite making it wear a dunce hat, he salvaged it from the wreckage of his Malibu home in Iron Man 3.
150-200 yrs from now. There will be a real ironman. Technology evolves so fast.
I agree!
10 years
we're be dead to see it
I dont agree because maybe after 5 years the engineers might make some plasma techs like iron man does
For your information iron man suits have already been made
Really the “magic” of how Iron Man’s tech even works is his arc reactor. Tony _somehow_ was able to reproduce the energy output of a nuclear reactor to fit in a teacup. And it’s what allows his suit enough energy to fly and produce enough thrust to go super sonic.
arc reactor is indeed magical but it complies with real life physics, if you could use all energy in something that small you can definitely get more than enough energy output, someone even did maths with just 1g of material and physics does allow that as result was something in range of 100 000 gj/s
but just because you can get that kind of energy output it doesn't mean you can use it for all applications, like the nuclear power stations that we got expel energy into liquid, which then evaporates and drive dynamo to generate electricity
but same thing can't be used for flight, as to attain flight you require to push something so conservation of momentum will apply equal and opposite force, thus allowing you to overcome constant gravitation pull. This is how all of our flight based technology works, all type of air planes suck all the available air and then push it out, thus air pushes back the air plane, all rockets carry their own supply of materials to push off but Tony's suit doesn't do anything like this, there are no vents that suck air and push it out nor are there any tanks to carry its own material.
The Arc Reactor is based off of the Tesseract. The little glowing blue cube thing from the MCU.
@@DearHRS I am pretty sure the initial suit (Mk2 and Mk3) heats up the air around the "repulsers" to generate thrust (making them a kind of propulsion equipment), it wouldn't work in space though but it's a cool idea and could help mitigate the overheating problem since you got like a huge heat sink in the chest piece and 4 auxiliary heat sinks to compensate for the energy dissipation of the ark generator.
@@DearHRS check for ionic flight
This is like a chef reacts to a microwave
LOL This made my day ahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣
More like Gordon Ramsay
Chef Mike
If you watch the movies there has been multiple times when Tony has passed out when his suit malfunctions, maybe the oxygen is in the helmet.
This character was written before we had most of our technology today so you gotta keep that in mind.
When has he passed out when his suit malfunctions?
The Gold Life he passed out when he went into the wormhole with the nuke in The Avengers. I’m assuming because the oxygen ran out in his helmet.
@@thenothingking I forgot about that, but you're absolutely right!
@@thenothingking Tony didn't pass out due to a lack of air. We know this because at the beginning of 2012's _The Avengers_ he's seen wearing the Iron Man suit while working underwater. He passed out because he consumed all available suit power redirecting the nuke into space; power that he needs to keep the shrapnel out of his heart.
@@BigJwlz from what was shown in the movie.... It will still take about a week for the shrapnel to reach his heart without the reactor.....
He won't exactly pass out without it since the reactor only powers the electromagnet and the suit NOT his body...... I think lack of oxygen is the main reason
11:44 Supersonic flight capable aircraft have existed since the 1950s.
12:05 The Iron Man suit is pressurized. You can hear him talk about it with Jarvis when he's discussing how to deal with the Icing problem he had with the Mark 2 suit: _Hull pressurization is problematic. I'm thinking icing is the problem._
A lot of engineers talk about how dangerous Tony's ark reactor is for his body due to the components in it but the directors do cover that in Iron Man 2, ya know when it's poisoning him
It is different. At Iron Man 2 they said the decaying products of the palladium is what is poisoning him, but what everyone says is that if such reactor can make that ungodly amount of energy, it would get really hot and cook Tony.
@@steampunkastronaut7081 exact
Next: Real humanoid spider reacts to spiderman films.
I'd pay to see it... With a flamethrower in my hand.
Or a parkour expert
The real humanoid spider: "tHiS iS riDiCUloUs hiS wEbS aRE sUPpoSeD tO gRoW FrOm hIS bUTt¡¡"
@@caquiux949 Yes. XD
@Arman Damn Oof. XD
I'm eletrical engineer myself specialized in hydraulic turbine and what was stated about the reactor is 100% true. I giggled when I saw that part of the movie the first time. A common hydraulic turbine of good size produces 300MW of power, which is 0.3gigawatts, which means 10 times LESS powerful than the arc reactor he built. Now these tubines are state of the art in term of efficiency in the world of electric motors. We are talking 99% efficiency, with only 1% loss in heat. Nonetheless, 1% of 300MW is 3 fucking million watts. Have you ever tried unscrewing a light bulb when powered on? You can barely touch it due to the heat, and this is 60 watts. Imagine what 3 000 000 watts would do. Unless his reactor is 100% efficiency, 0 power loss, no one could even stand in the same room as this reactor without proper cooling system in place.
To be fair...Tony Stark built his first suit IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
Thank you Mr. Stane
Sorry sir...I'm not Tony Stark
(wish I put that scene in this video lol)
@@parychahal actually more surprised that you didn't put any Ironmonger scenes
You just wanna say it don't you? hahah
@@parychahal You forgot to add "And we don't have a box of scraps."
Tony does have fuel. The materials they gave him to work with included missiles and rockets that have their own propellant. He just repurposed it.
Going supersonic is just a matter of thrust and integrity of the object. If the suit can generate the required thrust, and not vibrate itself apart, it can absolutely go supersonic. It's probably got a fairly wide shock cone given the blunt nature of the helmet compared to a fighter jet's tapered and swept nose. G force is a major component as there is a person in the suit, but fighter pilots actually wear flight suits that include bladders of air around their calfs and forearms. At high gs they inflate to squeeze blood back toward the core of the body. This could easily be integrated into the iron man suit. As for oxygen, he has thrusters in his feet that take up less than 10 cubic inches... we're just supposed to "he geniused it."
He prob didn't need to repurpose it, the fuel was used for thrust even in the missiles and rockets. Idk where he would keep the fuel in the suit even if he had it available.
@@parychahal Yeah, that's where you really have to suspend disbelief. There just isn't enough room in that suit for everything he has in there.
Agreed!
OK, so there are two aerospace engineers in our family and the thing about going supersonic is what does the suit do about the heat from all that. Metal parts start to expand, plastic starts to flow, circuits short out and go off line, the person/pilot suffers burns and then passes out all unless you can vent that heat and computer chips die from to much heat heat. As an example the SR-71's fuel system is constantly leaking fuel while the plane is sitting on the ground and or flying at anything less than supersonic but once it hits anything over Mach 2 that system expands and seal up tight. It then slows down to mid air refuel while the seals are warm and tight and then continues with its mission with full tanks of fuel. At the speeds we normally face in every day life our atmo seems nice and thin and easy to deal with and it is but once you cross that sound barrier lots of things change and that air becomes as dense as cement. Also that suit is so small it does not have space for all the fuel it would need, life support systems, weapon systems, sensor systems, navigation and avionics needed and so on. But heck it is just a cartoon and as the producer Bellisario always says, "don't look to close".
@@John-iv2oz That last bit is key... there's just enough realism to feel grounded, but not so much that they have to answer actual physics questions. That would kinda destroy the entire point. :D Though I'm sure we could probably come up with some yada-yadas on how he did it. I mean he did have that special alloy that resists icing from the Seraphim Tactical Satellites his company had built. Star Trek got around quantum mechanics by inventing the "Heisenberg Compensators" for the transporters as well as Inertial Dampening Fields to circumvent, well, inertia.
Iron man released in 2008
This man waits till 2019 until he becomes an engineer to watch it
He names the video "engineer watching iron man"
Objective accomplished 🎉
Do u personality know him? Or bluff?
@@ashenisdick that's a joke 🤦♂️
Shaibya Raj intensive cringe
@@ashenisdick idk 😂 ig but that's so messed up to name a video like that
Shaibya Raj yea so many videos like this in my recommended idk why lol
As for the paralysis of the device that was used on Tony they actually have that already in nature and that’s what it emulates. In adult tigers for instants they have the ability to do a deafening roar which affects some people so much when the cat roars it paralyzes those that hear it within a certain radius because it disrupts the equilibrium through the hearing.
A couple of things:
1. I think it's understood that the he uses repulsar technology to fly, which is never thoroughly explained but which is used not just in his suit, but later in the helicarriers in Winter Soldier. It's also the same thing he used to fire his blasts, so it's hard to quantify exactly how it operates.
2. Actually, Jarvis IS an AI. He is both an AI and a UI. He can do things on his own volition, but my guess is, there are "safety" protocols in the Jarvis AI from you know... just taking over world - like Ultron. If you watched Age of Ultron, you will see that Jarvis does actually do things on his own once he is "displaced." My guess is, Jarvis does tons of things on his own by through some sort of learning algorithm that Stark created. For instance, Jarvis makes comments on Stark's decisions "You're usually so subtle" or in Ironman 3 "You had glutton free waffles" when Stark says he doesn't even remember what he had for breakfast.
I guess the word he was looking for was Computational Intelligence
My best guess is he confused GAI with AI
(GAI means General Artificial intelligence... It's something that fits more into his explanation of AI, which doesn't require user inputs)
And evolving AI as well.
Jarvis, through being damaged by Ultron, and eventually combined with the Mind Stone, does become an AI as Vision. Advanced enough to understand and feel emotion
I also agree that this movie was way more realistic than some people may expect. I reacted to the Aerospace Engineering elements specifically on my channel and I found similar things that you did. Good Explanations 👏
9:29 UI stands for User Interface. Jarvis is an Intelligent System. Other examples of intelligent systems are things like factory automation. Things like the google assistant and Siri are Expert Systems.
Thought it stood for ultra instinct
@@jaycrane4137 😂
I should be sleeping. What the hell! Its friday!
Hell yeah!
Greetings from the future. It's Friday again!
Same it is Friday again and i can't sleep a year later from your comment.
5:20
It actually is protected, if you watch when he's building it, he coats it with a thick layer of plot armor.
😂
The ability to fly is the fictitious part of iron man, he himself mentioned to have created this new revolutionary technology "repulsors" wich are used in the Jericho missiles at first, then he applied it to the Mark II.
The source of the fuel to fly in the Mark I I assume is the same of the flamethrower equiped in the suit, even tho the types of fuels used for it are very different from rocket fuel, I'm sure Stark had a way to adapt that.
The way the repulsors work is completely fictional until now, I have no idea how we could develop something like that.
The other mysterious part of the suits is the arc reactor, such a powerful device would be impressive to see in real life.
Excellent video btw, subscribed.
Good call on the flamethrower fuel! I did not think of that! The Jericho missile was only in the air for...5 seconds before it divided into many smaller missiles? I'm sure he could increase the airtime the missile could have so it can cover a longer distance but even if that were the case, what is that max time? 10min? 15min? If it's the same technology, I don't know how he's able to fly in the Iron Man suit for more then 10-15min at once. Tony is also flying at different speeds while in the suit which will have an impact on how long he's able to stay in the air, but the faster he goes, the more fuel he's burning. I also don't have a solid understanding of how these repulsors work in the MCU, there's for sure someone who knows more then I do and I wish he/she would comment here and straighten it out ahah
@@parychahal Repulsors work by pushing away stuff without any undesired heat. They are used in the second stage of the Jericho missiles, when they "break apart into little pieces" they fly away using the repulsors.
Stark tested them on his boots first but then when trying to stabilize the flight by using hand repulsors he discovered they could be used as a weapon too, by pushing away enemies in a non lethal way.
They can also be used in a lethal way by concentrating the repulsor energy into a beam that can even cut stuff.
ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Repulsors_(film)
@@parychahal The repulsors are also supposed to work without any fuel, just using the electricity produced by the arc reactor.
"The repulsors work by taking excess electrons and turn them into muons, which have ability to penetrate deep into atomic matter, which are then fed into hands and chest piece of any iron man suit.
Muon is an elementary particle similar to the electron, with an electric charge of −1 e and a spin of 1/2, but with a much greater mass."
Source: www.quora.com/How-does-the-Iron-Man-s-repulsor-work
It all boils down to the energy source and the fantasy of the way it a is handled, I don't even know how the process of transforming electrons into muons can be placed into such a small device.
@@ESL1984 Thank you for sharing man! This info is solid! I read the wiki and now I'm down a rabbit hole reading many others
Stay away from this tech kid !!! You don't have enough hairs on your ass to understand Stark tech !!!
Iron Man suit is 1000% Real !!!
Its something that in fictious world , Tony Stark knows and in Real World , Only I know !!!
All concepts of this dumb engineer does work !!!
The Iron man armor is able to fly using a new technology (repulsors, designed for rockets) tony created. It’s basically just a really compact powerful thruster.
Engineer: the technology is impossible to make
Hacksmith: Hold my red bull
With the paralysis device it's possible there are subtler things going on than just the sound. The sound might be just a byproduct of the device being on, like how a car's purpose isn't to make car noises. It does seem to require close proximity to the ears, which is why Stane isn't affected, but it might just need to be close to the head. I know strong magnets can affect brain activity in some pretty crazy ways, maybe it uses magnets.
Obadiah isn't affected because he's wearing ear pieces to protect himself. A device like that could for sure use magnets, I wonder if it's real...
@@parychahal I just credit it to StarkTech and accept it. (Again, too much fan fiction?)
When I watched this video I was waiting for the scene where Obadiah is shouting to one of his guys to make the arc reactor.
Still, nice informative video! 👍👍👍
Well I'm sorry, I'm not Tony Stark......Thanks for the love Anthony ahaha
Actually Jarvis is an ai not a ui, for example he asks Tony if he wants him to do certain things, that are completely up to Jarvis to ask. For example he might ask Tony is he wants a dinner reservation at a restaurant nearby without any input or programming.
Yes, Jarvis demonstrates independent thinking quite often, and often must carry out tasks where Tony gives him only very high level instruction, and the details are left to Jarvis to figure out.
Actually technically in the comics he is considered the best human bc he has so much intelligence and is basically a walking human super computer
What about reed richards?
@@Abraham-ui6kc or doctor doom
Aye I’m going for electrical engineering
Good choice!
Hey same! Goodluck to us! 🥂
I think by plasma he is referring to blood plasma. Sir is it possible to have a Ironman helmet.
And also Jarvis understand's stark so he is an AI and an UI.
He said it's plasma for the device not from his body. IDK what you mean by iron man helmet? SIRI understands us, but it's not an AI.
@@parychahal Fanfic reader here again, so what I'm seeing from more from that than movies or comics. JARVIS was designed with a thinking algorithm, made to learn and grow, much as a child would. Tony had J watch Hal and other thinking/controlling computer movies to learn what NOT to do.
Why didn’t stark make a bunch of Non-human-operated bots to destroy thano’s army
He did in age of Ultron yet his creation turned against the avengers
ask ultron
Good question. Stark knew there was only one outcome (Dr Strange told him in Infinity war) and committed to making mach 85 which would essentially harness the stones for the snap. That was 'the mission.'
Thanos*
He blew them up as a Christmas Firework show in Iron Man 3
I see most of the people in here are very uninformed about propulsion systems and armor stuff..
The iron man suit's hydraulics might be possible but a flight system? No just no.. i can bet on it,
Theres no fuel which is powerful enough to lift a suit that heavy while having an efficiency so big that you wont have to carry big tanks full of that fuel.
And about the armor, again theres no possibility of making an armor so dense to stop 30 mm rounds and 115 mm rounds from the cannon of a tank... Just impossible.. even super dense materials like depleted uranium arent strong enough to take on multiple 30 mm rounds and we are talking about an armor which is just an inch thick so it wouldn't be possible for it to withstand that much force and energy from powerful munitions like 25,30,115,120 mm rounds and rockets
Electrolysis?
@@maxherrin2764 sorry I accidentally couldn't upload the whole comment together but I've edited the comment now you can read what I wanted to say
Adding to this, I’ve always found that the aerodynamics of the suit don’t work. You can’t, as far as I’m aware, move forward so fast that you don’t fall. Planes do it because they have wings that do some weird air magic to lift the plane upward. Iron Man don’t got wings. The closest thing to flying a suit like this could ever do is hover the way Tony did during the test flight. Add wings to it, and maybe it can happen, but then it drastically changes the suit, and I wouldn’t consider it an Iron Man suit anymore. Without flight, anything we make will be much more akin to the mjolnir armor from Halo, minus energy shields.
Wings aren’t always needed. To help direct it in different directions? Yes. It was displayed in the movie multiple time to turn, and brake. To keep it up and going straight. You just simply have a slight angle of propulsion to aim up. At high speeds, every slight adjustment is more dramatic. So falling isn’t a problem. No tanks needed if you use electrolysis. You create energy as you go. A lot of fuel will be needed yes, but IF...IF you have a batterie that can continue to make that energy, it’s possible. They are currently developing a quantum batterie that also creates energy as it operates. So heat isn’t a “issue”. Things are involving better over time.
@@maxherrin2764 you have no idea what your Talkin about, wings are a must for a efficient sustained flight if you will use the energy from the suit for propulsion so that your suit stays in an angle and doesn't starts "falling" down it would decrease the efficiency by atleast 300 to 400% comparing with the flight systems attached on a wing design and as for fuel.. Electrolysis is literally the worst idea, why?
See electrolysis is a very slow process it doesn't gives out enough fuel in a particular amount of time so that we can use it as a reliable source of energy nor does it gives out a fuel pure enough for actual use in propulsion like for example there's this youtuber russian guy who made a repulsor thing which was fueled by a electrolysis chamber feeding the whole system on Hydrogen gas (flammable) but the fuel wasn't dense or very pure hence could only be used in that hand-held repulsor torch thing and not for the propulsion systems.. as it wouldn't create required amount of force to lift a heavy suit in the air along with you
Tony built his helper (Dum-E) as a kid in 1986. He apparently never upgraded it beyond the voice control you mention. Probably some level of nostalgia there or considering it as a pet or something. Still awesome for when it was built.
Okay so there is a fluid that is used in make up and hair care products, and it is referred to as plasma.
Also there was test they were working on where you have a cone that leads in to an over hanging lip and you had to shoot a high power laser perfectly at the tip of the cone and the laser was supposed to travel evenly across the surface. As the laser curves through the overhanging lip, it super heats the air and makes a puff of plasma. So that in a movie could be the way that it worked, now you just need energy to power it!
Just came across your channel as I love Ironman and finished watching all of the avengers movies so I was curious. I’m a bio major and feel like changing to something else because I don’t feel motivated to go through with biology anymore. I’m good at math and chemistry and love to make/fix things, I was wondering if you have a suggestion for a few majors I’d potentially be interested/do well in?
I would recommend Biomedical Engineering if your university offers it. I'm not sure how keen you are on coding; if you like it, I'd recommend Electrical Engineering (it's a good mix of hardware and software) If you don't care for it, Mechanical Engineering may interest you.
With coding, there are many free software and youtube tutorials available for you to be at home and try coding for yourself to gauge your interest.
The Gold Life alright thank you! Sorry for the late reply but I remember trying coding in middle school and I didn’t like it that much. I think Mechanical Engineering should be the best for me!
From what I remember of the film. He was using his own weaponry mainly rockets/ missels and breaking them down to create the ironman suit. So rocket propellent and the casing and nozzles would have been available to him. This is not true of further iterations of the suit. Propulsion in later versions came from individual arc reactors that emitted energy straight from their cores and used as a weapon. It's a comic book man. Don't have to be real.
Doesn't have to be real, but its fun to think about how it could be!
The excess heat issue is probably the most difficult to solve if we ever get close to building a real life Iron Man suit. I suppose flight _could_ be effected by ducting air into the suit and superheating it to generate thrust, kind of like the "nuclear ramjet" concept that was envisioned in the Cold War era?
As for JARVIS, that's pretty near what I picture as the pinnacle of interactive UI with smart capabilities that at least _approach_ a universal artificial intelligence, since it is capable of inferring complex instructions from natural language input.
I don't watch these movies but Whenever youtube recommend these movie scenes
I break into laughter!!! Clearly you forget to turn off your logic mode when you don't watch these movie scenes and accidentally bump into it
From an engineer (me) to an engineer^2, I really like your videos. Please keep doing this stuff.
Thanks for the love Daniel!!
Fuel was used for the flame throwers and jet boots of the first suit, they showed the fuel tanks in the creation of the suit. The mini arc reactor just powered the servos motors and stuff, all the electronics.
My guy said “Tony stark is a very smart human” but to simplify this the man is a prodigy!!!
And if Jarvis is so called “ui” why was he able to basically take down ultron without any command from tony
when did jarvis take down ultron?
@@forsakenstranger2282 age of ultron,when he became vision
It was because he was already vision
@@toe13 yeah but vision isn't jarvis
@Aldin Diez no he didn’t technically defeat ultron but he played a major part into doing so and if he didn’t break ultron down from the inside they wouldn’t have been able to defeat him
Kudos for pointing out that Iron man would pass out in super sonic flight, but you're not entirely right about the need for oxygen. Tony would need some form of g suit to help his blood flow - that's the main thing for not passing out, along with oxygen mask
Small bit of trivia:
Palladium was used in the cold fusion
Experiments back in the 90's.
the word plasma is used for a different context here (like plasma membrane) that happens in science a lot.
He uses ion propulsion system of some kind that uses the power from arc reactor, that is how he produce thrust.
The Arc reactor is a fusion reactor, They are VERY close to getting a running one working :)
Very nice video you should have like a milion subscriber your so good
Thank you for that! Your comment made my day!!
I think in The Avengers (2012), JARVIS is already an AI since he called Pepper Potts when Tony was about to enter the wormhole, and Tony didn't even tell him to do so.
He is wearing a sci-fi concept called powered armor. Powered armor is basically just a suit of armor (what they used in antient times of castels and swords). But as you can guess armor is weight heavy. The powered part is that arc reactor provides power so the suit is no longer heavy it simply moves with you. There is also a translation (suit) some system that translates his movements to the ironman armor. He flies because his arc reactor put out thrust via energy it self. The suit is shootimg plasma (Iiomed air as its thrust). As far as burning his chest I think we are meant to understand that his chest has a mental cavity where the magnet sits. He just replaced the car battery with arc reactor.So the cavaity is limed with metal to protect him, however doesn't metal conduct heat?
1. Actually if those were military shells (bullets), they are usually steel jacketed (Police/civilian/defense rounds are usually coper jacketed and game rounds are usually lead based). So he'd need a steel that exceeds the toughness of the steel in the bullet jacket.
2. As far as the rockets, he did tear apart at least two missiles for the palladium. It's possible he repurposed the solid boost rockets (I assume the type) used in them
6:02 it's possible Tony input some sort of rocket propelling devices into the suit considering the suit is just made up of a bunch of dismantled stark weapons like missiles and such. It would also explain why the suit stopped flying mid air because he burned up all the fuel he put into the suit
Yes but this engineerer is no tony stark, just sayin.
Rocket engines in the initial suit, from missiles. He was taking apart a few of them to get elements for the reactor as well
The reason it discharges plasma is because it’s a fusion reactor. That also solves the heating problem, as most of the heat in a fusion reactor is in the plasma. The walls get cooled by liquid helium or lithium, therefore reducing heat that can get out of the reactor.
The heat one is interesting as yes. all machines do heat up.
The cave suits probably had electric jet engines of some kind, and the smoke was burning gasses from the explosions got sucked in.
The Repulsers are just pure sci-fi tho
Aye The Golden Life, @~4:55-5secs. You mentioned density of metal needs to be greater than a lead bullet. Dunno if you forgot or dismiss it but modern bullets are copper housings with lead in the middle, solid copper, or solid steel. Black powder guns like flint locks or muskets use lead bullets. Depending on bullet caliber can determine how much gun powder is placed I side which also determines ibs. The fictional bullets used in the movie were maybe .308 civilian grade. Which can penetrate basic steels. Like the one of the Mk-1 Ironman suit.
JARVIS is maybe both UI and AI, as just seen in this video that it is UI. But when you see Iron Man 3, after Mansion Attack, JARVIS takes him to a city which he had flight for in couple of hours, and at that time Tony was unconscious. So, JARVIS had a memory of Stark going to that city through flight, but instead he took decision and took him in his Suit. (inshort, JARVIS does take decision...)
I think that the way that tony flies with the first suit is with some type of thruster . The only reason he would have a thruster is because he was captured by those people to make missiles for them. So I think he used the missile thrusters for him to push off the ground.
How realistic iron man was in 2008 and then in 2018 I was like there can be a superman but no Iron man can't
Currently, (2022) there are electronic plasma jet engines. So it seems Stark was ahead of the curve. It seems like his suits are air tight, and the only air that is allowed to travel through them is from the thrusters and repulsors.
The hacksmith made this in his garage! With his knowledge
I am also an EE, and a fan of Iron Man and quite a few things that could be interpreted a bit different.
1. Palladium is not atomic and cannot produce this much energy without fusion (3GJ/s) Which as you know is not reality today as a tech and Palladium is not fusion-able
2. Suit uses Jerico Rocket solid boosters to fly remember he took apart a Jerico rocket. The part that does not make sense is how he can steer it without any of the rudders. (how was he expecting to land?)
3. Impact in sand with that much mass and velocity from the height he was; when he landed would have killed him dead 100%. You can calculate the G's and its over 1000 G.
4. Inorganic discharge suggests that the reactor is producing a chemical reaction with byproducts not elemental. None of the movies or comics can reconcile this.
5. Building the second suit in that many little pieces of metal that move like that with intricate movements will produce an overall weak overall suit strength. It won't be bullet-proof let alone fly.
6. Having all small parts made from a metal that is light enough to fly and strong enough to be bulletproof does not exist.
7. Supersonic flight will introduce so much heat into the structure he will cook like a hotdog in foil.
8. Let alone all metals will fail if heated to this level structurally as thin as they are shown in the movie. He couldn't hold up his head, turning it will snap his head off his shoulders and arms off his body at 1/4 these speeds. This suit will disintegrate with him in it. Let alone having control over supersonic flight to out-maneuver two F22's again without any ailerons and wings just not possible.
9. Jarvis would require a computer the size of a room to do those supercomputer calculations at the speeds it does in the movie. Even if Jarvis was ground based and accessed through a communication module, there would be lapses in range and altitude and the speed of those transfers of that much data are not possible with today's telecommunication devices to circumnavigate the globe in space with full high speed data to run a supercomputer. My Electronic Engineering degree is in Telecom emphasis.
10. Easy enough to beat the ice with 3.3GJ/s you can make hot exo-suit to melt the ice, warm the person inside and thats not even using NASA insulation tech like ceramic coatings, Aspen Aerogel insulation and vacuum sealing the body in a temperature controlled chamber. This is the most probable to fix out of the problems outlined here.
11. The military has these weapons already, that can incapacitate people non lethally using different kinds of sound waves. DARPA made a lot of this tech. They were going to use it in crowd control but ultimately deemed it inhumane treatment.
12. The most improbable part of the suit is the repulsior tech. If it was powerful enough to do what it does in the movie, Tony's arm would snap off every time he fired it at someone. For every pound of force forward, there is a pound pushing back on his arm. If you have enough force to knock a man back 50 ft then that is how much force is pushing on one arm. Can a man hit someone with enough force to knock him back 50 feet with one arm? No. His arm would be shattered. And if you are supposing that the suit takes the force then there is still a problem in the fact that he does not weigh enough to not move an inch with that much force applied to his body stationary. He would fly back
Very cool vid. One note though, he did build the suite out of missiles and if looked at closely the legs are quite bulky. Possibly storage for rocket fuel. It was also not disigned for sustained flight. Only burst.
Dude be like. Cover the arc reactor with metal to avoid it getting shot.
Tony: yeah but it looks cool so it’s worth the risk
The high impact of being physically slammed or crashing on the ground with armor
Neurolink tech was developed way back in the '70s, right? If I recall correctly, German engineers were experimenting on prototype cybernetic limbs with neural sensors attached to the pads connecting the prosthesis to the shoulder. Another experiment was done, I think, by the united states. The experiment involved enabling blind people to see again, albeit in the form of dots. They attach nerve implants to the optic nerves in the base of the subject's skull and connect it to a computer that was programmed to project a sequence of dots directly into the subject's brain. It was awesome.🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
0:53 palladium is radio active...!!! They can't use for wearings.. I think u mean "platinum"
Plasma/gas from the reactor is channeled to the stabilizers as an exhaust. When he powers up the stabilizers the heat they produce ignites the plasma/gas and allows for propulsion. I’m with you though on the power/heat issue. He would have about 12.9 billion BTU’s present at the chest piece which has a relative volume of roughly .25 cubic feet. Not only would the suit instantly melt around him but he would not have even been able to make the reactor in the first place.
Regarding his "Flight" at 5:21
Most of the smoke and fire behind Tony, is due to the weapons that the terrorists had stolen from Stark Technologies, which Tony lit on fire with his arm-flamethrower. The propulsion itself, is powered by his Repulsor technology, which he said earlier on in the film was a part of the Jericho missile system (which is what Tony rebuilt for use as his first suit). So the trail behind Tony while he's in the air, is the Repulsor tech which does give off a bit of "exhaust". The fire and smoke, are from the exploding weapons.
IRON MAN was a mechanical engineer from MIT.
About the thrust. What about if he found away to use the energy produced by the arc reactor to somehow use the air around him to create thrust? Like a turbine but with altering the electric charge of the atoms going through?
"Exo suits with enhanced strength capabilities are real" *Draconian Dream plays in the background* Oh yeah, it's all coming together.
the plasmatic discharge could possibly be from the nuclear gama radiation being used to ionize the palladium to generate an electrical charge in a simular fashion to a miniaturized nuclear particle excelerator power plant, or the scientific term for the arc reactor is a radio isotopic decay cell
By the way, he does have fuel in his suit. He has some on his risk for his flamethrower and some on the back of his suit. You can see the tanks on his back.
I’m sure he thought he could handle the ice because the suit is temperature controlled from the inside. He didn’t realize the suit would shut down from the ice on the outside
The real brilliance of the arc reactor is the ability to generate variable power under variable load and keep the waste to a minimum.
It occurs to me that the sound of nails on chalkboard can make your body sort of lock up for a moment, so that paralysis device could be the result of extensive studying of that effect.
The tone the device used seemed to be around that kind of pitch, too.
Iron flight uses the repulsors located on his hands and feet to create the thrust. These are insinuated to be akin to ion boosters or thrusters.
I’ll let the engineers worry about the plausibility of that. For that’s how it “works”.
*when u know everything he was talking about and feel smort* 😎
Even if you’re missing an ark your brain thinks it’s there. Uh why is my arm invisible
keeping in mind the Shell is from the missiles his company made, it is possible the shell is bullet proof. keeping the arc reactor open was probably a way to release some of the heat produced by the reactor to the surrounding to help TS regulate the heat emitted. NB: my PoV, not a validated or the main reason.
7:25. When pepper has her hand in the arc reactor. Well. I’m not an engineer but I am a biologist. To have that in his chest would have required a list things being discarded from his body longer than my arm. That would have had a negative dovetail effect on many other parts of his body. So yeah, not possible, for that space to just be occupied by the reactor without having to compromise many other parts of the body. In real life. Let’s say the reactor is doing what it does in the movie. That would mean his heart is completely exposed. As the skeletal structure in that location would have been completely altered and frankly, weakened. Meaning. One strong push to the chest, assuming he was even standing an able to function normally, would more than likely kill him. The heart is VERY guarded. And it for a reason. When pepper puts her hand inside it goes deep enough to actually go past the heart. So that was for film purposes as well. This is one of the semi few stories where marvel hasn’t explained how he could have something like that in his chest without being a hair away from death at all times. Then again. The MCU has changed a LOT about Spider-Man. And I’m no where near an iron man comic expert, but I do claim to be a Spider-Man fanatic. So perhaps in the comics that I haven’t seen it’s just on the surface of his skin.
the phantom limb syndrom the feeling of having an arm or leg there when its not.
Almost forgot, I wanted to add that the Arc reactor in his chest being super hot should really be irrelevant. That's like saying that a car engine would burn down a car just by using it or a jet engine will burn a fighter jet down just because it's sitting at the rear. Technically all these items have cooling devices and systems and for that suit to exist in the require the same type of system to reject heat from the item being that is not perfect even though the art reactor I believe was supposed to be a nearly perfect and efficient clean energy source however if it generated any heat then cooling systems should be able to cool it off so it wouldn't burn his chest just like you need in a jet or car you have heating and air conditioning to make them comfortable. This will be no different and the engine would have its own cooling system so it won't burn the machine up itself or burn the engine up itself and have it meltdown for that matter...
He uses flight stablelizers to fly using the suit and using the stabilizers or what they call repulsors and firing them off in bursts to blast people.
Theres two options for tony taking off.
The more logical one is that he had access to all the rocket motors and explosives of the bombs and missiles he disassembled for the making of the suit.
The other, less likely one would be the use of Hall Effect Thrusters. Electrically driven Ion Thrusters as are used on sattelites and small spacecraft.
6:49 Plasma is also reffered to as for example cellular cytoplasm
I have some theory. The movie describe his suits thrusters as ion thrusters/blasters witch are a real thing. However in the modern day they are fairly weak outside space vacuum environments. In order to feasibly make one produce the thrust that tony's does is by having a power source as strong as the arc reactor
Going to assume the suit he is in is insulated in some sort of way with how advanced it is, so the hypothermia I don’t think would be the first issue with altitude climbing , maybe oxygen starvation unless the suit has a reservoir or technology that condenses the sparse oxygenated atmosphere
The Iron Man suit V2+ likely uses electric turbo fans. The V1 probably uses the extra tanks of fuel from the missiles to achieve lift.
The arc reactor is covered in plexiglass later on in the movie then later in the series he has something else covering it but by endgame it’s just for looks and the unibeam
In the first suit he made he did have fuel. He literally built it from missile parts and you can see canisters on his back and pilot lights on his arms.
In later suits, I guess if there really is that much energy, he could be using some kind of ionising technology to produce thrust.
What I don't understand is how can the suit protects Tony from impacts. Like when he fell after he escaped while using his first Iron Man Suit. Why he was not injured while Rhodey got paralyzed from falling in Civil War. I know Tony fell on sand and stuff but can it really absorbed all that impact?
The main point here, I don't see any cushioning material inside the suit. You try build a motorcycle helmet with the strongest metal. It won't fully protect your head unless there are some cushioning materials inside.
Late to the party, but here's my take on how a suit could fly without on-board fuel tanks:
The "jets" discharge high energy arcs that ionize the gas around them, which is then pushed away by an electromagnetic field.
It would be horribly inefficient, and generate so much heat that the user would probably suffer serious burns with extended use, but that's already a problem the reactor itself seems to ignore.
Hypothermia takes minutes to set in, and the difference in temperature between the suit and the outside air could condense the water vapor in the air onto his armor and freeze it practically instantly due to the same physics that allows snowmakers to function above 0 degrees Celcius.