@@zalox12svarog and any other elite has more HP now, it feels like my feixiao does little damage. In the previos moc i could easily 0 cycle with her but not this time😂
@@AdamNRG316 bro doesn't want to leave MOC, like unc it time to get moving, but at least he gives us a clear example of the direct hp increase per new moc.
Not building fast acheron so relatable honestly because im also too lazy to farm new relics for acheron just to do the -1 tech with sunday despite knowing its the most optimal build😂
@@AdamNRG316i mean even if you can only reach 126 for example then just adjust your sunday to be 125, will still be better than sunday being faster than her
The guys who said the game is too easy needs to stfu. Whether others have skill issue or not, these guys just don’t make the game fun for all of us. The game isn’t dedicated to them like seriously, there’s no competition.
@ I cleared the MoC with no problem, it took 7cycles, but after the experience I can imagine the struggle for most players that do not have an advance collection of characters especially F2Ps. And yes I have build issue but only for my Acheron but it still does its job just fine
@@kidsIIIII009 these people screaming skill issue at everyone just wanna look cool ig, they don't know any better about the game. I cleared in 5 cycles in total for both sides and I still don't like the direction the game is going bc the meta shifts too fast and they are forcing you to pull a character just to fit into a very restrictive end game mechanic and artificial difficulties.
Ah shit, Svarog haven’t left and now it’s the Swarm Now debating if I should use E0S1 DHIL with my E0S1 Sunday and S5 DDD Sparkle for 2nd half I have been using Ratiorine for the longest time as imaginary carries and now mostly use Aventurine with Acheron
The true sting ai changed to often spawn little bugs when its alone but i didn't expected that the changes took place now Also, i wonder if they kept the 1 million hp elite abomination in the 1st half
After seeing this, i know my DoT Acheron team (with Black Swan, Kafka & Aventurine) ain't getting past this lol. Unless my break team on the second half hard carries who i have Firefly, Rappa, Ruan Mei and Fugue for and im considering pulling Lingsha next patch to complete my break teams, but im also considering Robin so im not sure right now (btw i have no interest in the summon meta or 3.x/Amphoreus characters aside from Herta who im skipping cuz i have too many dps as is).
Brother HSR with this MOC have turned the biggest AS$ gacha game i have ever played I am a forking day 1 player of this sht game and i cannot max star this sht you can imagine how bad it feels especially when you're day 1 player (also guess why i can't beat it i mean wow I dont fill their as$ with money every patch) but now am so much done with this sht UNINSTALLED FOREVER FCK HONKAI STAR RAIL
To be fair, if you're a day 1 player and are getting mad at not max starring the moc. How are you even a day 1 player(are you that infactuated with the moc)? I personally joined during Ruan Mei banner, took like 3 long breaks, and missed out on a literall ton of pulls and some free 4 stars. I just 35 out of 36 stars on my first try(as usual), will change around relics a bit and optimize things to get max stars sometime before the moc is over because I'm not even that bothered about it. Even if I fail, that's maximum 80 jades lost(half of 1 pull). I'm just going around doing side quests now until 3.0 drops and I get to experience some story. The HP inflation is getting insane though. That's true. I was shocked that Acheron didn't one-shot the little bugs. If CN players complain enough, they may nerf it like like before
@devika2545Thats because pretty much every unit before 1.6 is basically useless by this point. Also are you f2p? Because every player that spends will have an advantage no matter when they started
Yeah fuck this shitty as MoC and this game man. HP is so high now that your character does zero dmg compared to the MoC buff and that just feels so shitty I just uninstall this dogshit game. Waste my fking 1 hour just to realize my Feixiao & FF & Acheron team are dogshit now unless I pull for couple more eidolons. Fuck this game.
@@absoluteradiance3254 I mean, that's to be expected? That's why they get reruns, so that you could get eidolons if you really like them so much and still be able to clear with them. E2 Dan heng IL can still clear MOC without much trouble. Is he as good as others? No. But is he good enough for a total 36 stars at E2? Yes. He's had two reruns now, so I'm pretty sure that's one eidolon each rerun. Besides, if he was still usable at E0, there'd be no point to summon any new characters with money. Or at least much less of an incentive. Thus, the game would suffer revenue wise with how much they're spending to keep updating and keep it running. Also, I felt in the mood and optimized a little. I got 36 stars with 2 cycles left to spare now. As I said before, I'm f2p. My only limited sustain is Aventurine, my only signature LC is Acheron. This is because I missed out a ton.
I feel like E0 Acheron needs 2 other nihilities if you don’t have robin and your Acheron and Sunday aren’t speed tuned so you’re missing out on stacks + damage. Great runs still!
So using e6 Galagher over Aventurine and Sunday with Signature over e6 Pela is better for Acheron team? I thought for e0 Acheron you need to have 2 Nihility to not lose dmg, no?
I absolutely hate the first side! I used up 12 cycles when I tried it with boothill, Sunday, ruan mei and lingsha today… (I’m roll sad I lost my 50/50 on fugue’s banner….) tomorrow I’ll try it with ratio topaz avonturisme and Sunday hoping it’ll go better (mostly focussing on the trotters then) 2nd side isn’t that hard as I have a lot of options there and manage to get it done in 3 cycles but damn… staroog? Ruined me last mod too…
I'll pull The Herta because she covers Ice-Weakness. Svarog is easy with Acheron, 1 cycle. But the damm second half is so annoying, 5 cycles, I used FF team because I don't have Rappa (don't want her at tall). All characters are E0S0, except Acheron with S1, if you want to know. Maybe I should swap HMC with Fugue
@@Randy.Pangestu cuz the enemies already have imaginary weakness Giving it to Lingsha will allows her to help breaking the enemies without fire weakness faster The only thing Rappa will utilize from Fugue Skill is the BE buff which she already has too much
Svarog needs to slow down on those steroids man, WTF is that HP, and he doesn't even have mechanics like Banana boss buffs and Swarm's vulnerability, you have to raw dog his 2.3 million HP bar💀
@jayf3ar Yeah, even though you'll end up losing attack boots, the extra damage from Sunday and the fact that Sunday giving 20% more crit rate means you can use a crit damage chestpiece equates to more damage. Even if the damage was less, it'd still be better because it enables faster ults.
am i missing something, why is e0 acheron on a team that doesn't have 2 nihility support for her passive to work? I'd understand if she's e2 since she only needs 1 nihility
I run my acheron fast with sunday/jiaoqiu and often get better results than jiaoqiu/pela at e0s1 acheron. Fast acheron + Sunday gets even better at higher investment as the more stacks acheron can get during her own turn, (2 at e0s1, 3 at e2s1) the more she benefits from double turns
@matielboga Acheron's damage numbers were already inflated because even when the little mobs died mid ult, they would still take more damage. Combining that with a single target boss(not like Choir or TV boss) means that Acheron will struggle much more to do good damage.
Nice Video, I can do 2 cycles on the Second Half too. However, My Teams are Firefly, HMC, Fugue and Ruan Mei. Yes, No Sustain needed. It's on my channel but I seriously needs some work on the first half.
And people say Acheron is better than FF. . . Lol, The best harmony advancer in the game and her bis support that provides so many damage amps as well as utility and she cant keep up with an E0S0 FF with Fugue, Rappa doesn't even get Fugues buffs lol break is truly broken.
Uh... Idk what to tell you but the speedtuning in this acheron team wasn't optimal. And Rappa not getting Fugue skill is the optimal play, because she wants more breaks for her talent. Your line of thought is so strange
@@Mikaela_77 they are, it's gonna be in AS, but not the next one. There's a future one where we fight hoolay who has his toughness bar lock all the time and can counter our attacks. The only way to lower his toughness is by defeating the smaller wolves
took 10 cycles with dot arcehon + rappa n hmc lol the trotters carried me so hard.. yeah i got skill issues but idc as long i can get 3 stars on this floor 🥲🥲
I cant even full star this moc😭 it took me 14 cycle, idk who i have to use to beat this moc, i don't have any break team😮💨 and my acheron dont have jq or Kafka blackswan
![So, uh... 𝔗𝔥𝔢 Herta is kinda cracked for this account [Honkai: Star Rail Erudition Only]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2kcbie5sbNE/mqdefault.jpg)
The HP is getting out of control this Sh1t need to stop fr
I wonder what will happen to selee after 3.x and acheron feixaio after 4.x
@@zalox12svarog and any other elite has more HP now, it feels like my feixiao does little damage. In the previos moc i could easily 0 cycle with her but not this time😂
@@tonberry_ fr. They are really forcing us to pull new characters regardless of our choices
You can ignore this hp inflation by pulling for the 3.0 dps and supports. Get used to it, this is a part of them selling their characters
😢
Svarog again? OK grandpa time to get one cycled again.
Man the damage output from that Rappa team is outrageous.
SVAROG YOUR DAUGHTER NEEDS YOU PLEASE LEAVE
@@AdamNRG316 bro doesn't want to leave MOC, like unc it time to get moving, but at least he gives us a clear example of the direct hp increase per new moc.
@@Mikaela_77 Facts.
This time he has more hp and def, i coudlnt 0 cycle him with sustainless feixiao comp anymore😢
Man his hp increases, couldn't 0 cycle it.
Not building fast acheron so relatable honestly because im also too lazy to farm new relics for acheron just to do the -1 tech with sunday despite knowing its the most optimal build😂
Same. Even with speed boots she's still not close to 135 for me. She can stay slow lol.
@@AdamNRG316i mean even if you can only reach 126 for example then just adjust your sunday to be 125, will still be better than sunday being faster than her
@@AdamNRG316Guess I got lucky with a planar that gave 2 spd and a crit damage chest piece that gave 7 spd on top of 6% crit rate.
Fast Acheron is worth it imo because you get 2 extra ult stacks.
Ahaha true, I do have spd boots but still can't reach 135 spd
Holy fucking shit. No wonder my E1 Acheron couldn't do shit on Svarog, his defense and hp rn is so outrageous.
The guys who said the game is too easy needs to stfu. Whether others have skill issue or not, these guys just don’t make the game fun for all of us. The game isn’t dedicated to them like seriously, there’s no competition.
:C
Just try to clear it without any sustain
it's hella funny ❤
It you relic issues or skill issues 🤣 why so serious if u can clear with10cycle
@ I cleared the MoC with no problem, it took 7cycles, but after the experience I can imagine the struggle for most players that do not have an advance collection of characters especially F2Ps. And yes I have build issue but only for my Acheron but it still does its job just fine
@@kidsIIIII009 these people screaming skill issue at everyone just wanna look cool ig, they don't know any better about the game. I cleared in 5 cycles in total for both sides and I still don't like the direction the game is going bc the meta shifts too fast and they are forcing you to pull a character just to fit into a very restrictive end game mechanic and artificial difficulties.
Alright amphoreus im ready. Remembrance im ready. Aglaea im ready. Lets goo 🔥🔥🔥
Ah shit, Svarog haven’t left and now it’s the Swarm
Now debating if I should use E0S1 DHIL with my E0S1 Sunday and S5 DDD Sparkle for 2nd half
I have been using Ratiorine for the longest time as imaginary carries and now mostly use Aventurine with Acheron
The true sting ai changed to often spawn little bugs when its alone but i didn't expected that the changes took place now
Also, i wonder if they kept the 1 million hp elite abomination in the 1st half
I think so, i just did it and the elites in the 1st half were so fucking tanky
After seeing this, i know my DoT Acheron team (with Black Swan, Kafka & Aventurine) ain't getting past this lol. Unless my break team on the second half hard carries who i have Firefly, Rappa, Ruan Mei and Fugue for and im considering pulling Lingsha next patch to complete my break teams, but im also considering Robin so im not sure right now (btw i have no interest in the summon meta or 3.x/Amphoreus characters aside from Herta who im skipping cuz i have too many dps as is).
Nah they can still manage even w/out Adveturine only Gallagher at least on my run
I did it with this team except no Aventurin,i have FuXuan
Second team was Rappa Gal Ruan Mei Fugua(not finished built)
DoT based. I use huohuo instead of aven and this team fucking slaps(not seeing hope for 3.0 tho)
This game really want us to pull limit chars in each patch this hoyo keep doing HP inflation in every MoC version rn
Brother HSR with this MOC have turned the biggest AS$ gacha game i have ever played
I am a forking day 1 player of this sht game and i cannot max star this sht you can imagine how bad it feels especially when you're day 1 player (also guess why i can't beat it i mean wow I dont fill their as$ with money every patch) but now am so much done with this sht
UNINSTALLED FOREVER FCK HONKAI STAR RAIL
To be fair, if you're a day 1 player and are getting mad at not max starring the moc. How are you even a day 1 player(are you that infactuated with the moc)? I personally joined during Ruan Mei banner, took like 3 long breaks, and missed out on a literall ton of pulls and some free 4 stars. I just 35 out of 36 stars on my first try(as usual), will change around relics a bit and optimize things to get max stars sometime before the moc is over because I'm not even that bothered about it. Even if I fail, that's maximum 80 jades lost(half of 1 pull). I'm just going around doing side quests now until 3.0 drops and I get to experience some story.
The HP inflation is getting insane though. That's true. I was shocked that Acheron didn't one-shot the little bugs. If CN players complain enough, they may nerf it like like before
@devika2545Thats because pretty much every unit before 1.6 is basically useless by this point. Also are you f2p? Because every player that spends will have an advantage no matter when they started
@@absoluteradiance3254 I'm f2p. Despite starting at 1.6 I have only logged in for like 206 days.
Yeah fuck this shitty as MoC and this game man. HP is so high now that your character does zero dmg compared to the MoC buff and that just feels so shitty I just uninstall this dogshit game.
Waste my fking 1 hour just to realize my Feixiao & FF & Acheron team are dogshit now unless I pull for couple more eidolons. Fuck this game.
@@absoluteradiance3254 I mean, that's to be expected? That's why they get reruns, so that you could get eidolons if you really like them so much and still be able to clear with them. E2 Dan heng IL can still clear MOC without much trouble. Is he as good as others? No. But is he good enough for a total 36 stars at E2? Yes. He's had two reruns now, so I'm pretty sure that's one eidolon each rerun. Besides, if he was still usable at E0, there'd be no point to summon any new characters with money. Or at least much less of an incentive. Thus, the game would suffer revenue wise with how much they're spending to keep updating and keep it running.
Also, I felt in the mood and optimized a little. I got 36 stars with 2 cycles left to spare now. As I said before, I'm f2p. My only limited sustain is Aventurine, my only signature LC is Acheron. This is because I missed out a ton.
why did svarog so thick
Inflation, bro
stomach inflation
Kill Trotter = enemy lose lot of hp
They just want you to use aoe char (The herta)
He got bunda
@haikalhafiy2431 I use Acheron, Firefly, Rappa, Feixiao for the dps
I feel like E0 Acheron needs 2 other nihilities if you don’t have robin and your Acheron and Sunday aren’t speed tuned so you’re missing out on stacks + damage. Great runs still!
So using e6 Galagher over Aventurine and Sunday with Signature over e6 Pela is better for Acheron team? I thought for e0 Acheron you need to have 2 Nihility to not lose dmg, no?
The only thing i dont have is rappa if i knew that i have tripled my gacha recently i have pulled for her damn gach gods.
do you use some hot keys for auto battle button? if yes how to do it?
V key i think
@@Kuaishousou Yep, and B is for x2 battle speed
@@Kuaishousou OK thank you
for e0 acheron, would robin or sunday be better?
The hp increase is too much, my teams were barely able to complete f12 with 3 star(in 1st attempt)
I beat it using 1st team Firefly, fugue, ruan mei, lingsha. 2nd team herta, jade, robin, huohuo, in 9 cycle just focus on the trotter.
I absolutely hate the first side! I used up 12 cycles when I tried it with boothill, Sunday, ruan mei and lingsha today… (I’m roll sad I lost my 50/50 on fugue’s banner….) tomorrow I’ll try it with ratio topaz avonturisme and Sunday hoping it’ll go better (mostly focussing on the trotters then) 2nd side isn’t that hard as I have a lot of options there and manage to get it done in 3 cycles but damn… staroog? Ruined me last mod too…
Very intresting team's 😮
For some reason i felt like that Svarog was twice as tanky as last time
Not twice, but they did increase his hp
I'll pull The Herta because she covers Ice-Weakness. Svarog is easy with Acheron, 1 cycle. But the damm second half is so annoying, 5 cycles, I used FF team because I don't have Rappa (don't want her at tall).
All characters are E0S0, except Acheron with S1, if you want to know. Maybe I should swap HMC with Fugue
🙌 yay😊😊
Nahh thats E1 RM with Signature right there
Why was the fugue skill given to Lingsha and not Rappa?
@@Randy.Pangestu cuz the enemies already have imaginary weakness
Giving it to Lingsha will allows her to help breaking the enemies without fire weakness faster
The only thing Rappa will utilize from Fugue Skill is the BE buff which she already has too much
I also used Acheron and Rappa to beat this MoC.
Can my E0 DHIL clear this? Yk, swarm was released along with him &; I'm afraid if he can't clear it cuz of hp inflation 😢
I tested DHIL E2 with robin sunday and huohuo and he did 6 cycle 💀💀
@ranzyo4480 E2 DHIL 6 cycles even with Robin & Sunday😱. Then it's gonna take 8 cycles for me. I'm cooked 🤯
My E0 DHIL did 2 cycles but then again he's with E1 Robin and Sunday
😢
Can i replace jiaoqiu for pela, i didnt have him
Yeah, but expect lower dmg
I did run her with pela. The dmg is kinda similar but her ult uptime is horrible ( i cleared 1st half in 5 cycles).
oh, i just need to clear F12 with 5 cycle both side so its okay. thanks for reply me
I'm ready to get like 35/36 on this MoC and then cry (My rappa is e0s1 and has 268.5% break effect)
Doesn't this game have bosses other than Svarog?
I want e2 Acheron so bad so I can worry a little less about hp inflation💀
Svarog needs to slow down on those steroids man, WTF is that HP, and he doesn't even have mechanics like Banana boss buffs and Swarm's vulnerability, you have to raw dog his 2.3 million HP bar💀
Can you try Fexiao,Topaz, Aventurine and Robin?
I just brute force 2nd half with Yunli 😂 ( yeah, i don't have rappa and firefly).
Is Sunday better than Robin for archeron team?
If and only if Acheron is S1.
But to do it optimally, you'll need 135-134 spd Acheron with 134-133 spd Sunday.
@devika2545 thanks alot will try it out
@jayf3ar Yeah, even though you'll end up losing attack boots, the extra damage from Sunday and the fact that Sunday giving 20% more crit rate means you can use a crit damage chestpiece equates to more damage.
Even if the damage was less, it'd still be better because it enables faster ults.
Jade HC is so strong!
I love Jade
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Hp inflation ✅✅
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am i missing something, why is e0 acheron on a team that doesn't have 2 nihility support for her passive to work? I'd understand if she's e2 since she only needs 1 nihility
some harmonies are too broken and let her ignore that trace
That's how broken of a support Robin and Sunday are
I run my acheron fast with sunday/jiaoqiu and often get better results than jiaoqiu/pela at e0s1 acheron. Fast acheron + Sunday gets even better at higher investment as the more stacks acheron can get during her own turn, (2 at e0s1, 3 at e2s1) the more she benefits from double turns
S1 Acheron can get away with only using 1 other nihility and sparkle/Sunday as the harmony
some harmony are just way too good that she can ignore that trace and still get better result
I think you should enhance acheron spd to 135 to play spd tunning with sunday😅
Why isn't Acheron's damage affecting bosses as much?
@@matielboga it's called HP inflation
@matielboga Acheron's damage numbers were already inflated because even when the little mobs died mid ult, they would still take more damage. Combining that with a single target boss(not like Choir or TV boss) means that Acheron will struggle much more to do good damage.
Early acess??
already out on asia
It is just me or anyone feel like we are back to 1.0 where we strugling to fullstar this shi 🙃
Lingsha showcase
Nice Video, I can do 2 cycles on the Second Half too. However, My Teams are Firefly, HMC, Fugue and Ruan Mei. Yes, No Sustain needed. It's on my channel but I seriously needs some work on the first half.
Easy for a f2p like me😄
This game become ridiculous to play
And people say Acheron is better than FF. . . Lol, The best harmony advancer in the game and her bis support that provides so many damage amps as well as utility and she cant keep up with an E0S0 FF with Fugue, Rappa doesn't even get Fugues buffs lol break is truly broken.
It's not acheron bad. Break is just op
@marupurusaivamsi4802 yup, so much so that they're probably gonna bring weakness lock mechanics later which will be funny when it happens.
wait but this is an e0 acheron, e0 needs 2 nihility for her passive to work
Uh... Idk what to tell you but the speedtuning in this acheron team wasn't optimal. And Rappa not getting Fugue skill is the optimal play, because she wants more breaks for her talent. Your line of thought is so strange
@@Mikaela_77 they are, it's gonna be in AS, but not the next one. There's a future one where we fight hoolay who has his toughness bar lock all the time and can counter our attacks. The only way to lower his toughness is by defeating the smaller wolves
this game is cooked
took 10 cycles with dot arcehon + rappa n hmc lol the trotters carried me so hard.. yeah i got skill issues but idc as long i can get 3 stars on this floor 🥲🥲
I cant even full star this moc😭 it took me 14 cycle, idk who i have to use to beat this moc, i don't have any break team😮💨 and my acheron dont have jq or Kafka blackswan
Nice mindset bro 👍