Sorry for any confusion! We can not speak much on the Ludwig drums you found for $500 but we are sure not all of their drums are $500. We are sure they have series of drums that are at a higher price point. We DW Collector's, Jazz, Classic's, Cherry and Performance Series shells they are made in our factory in Oxnard, CA in the US so the materials and labor are pricier then being made overseas. We hope you can understand or find understanding towards this.
I agree, change those silly heads and tune up that snare to a higher tension. Also, they EQ'd the PDP to sound thinner than the DW kits. I've had two DW Collectors kits and loved everything about them except the tone. Went back to playing Yamaha kits.
the pdp are going to sound thinner... the pdp are impressive drums... but they aren't dw's... n like any instrument, they aren't all flawless gems. some dw's are going to sound better than others because of the timber pitches you can choose with them... pdp are engineered to all sound relatively the same. what dw offers is a hand picked, hand selected set up. where you can choose your timber notes and shell structure.
dw's will sound like mixed drums in person... pdp need extensive engineering to get them to sound close, and then it becomes an eq'd sound that musicians can hear and find disgusting. purists will tell a difference and know why dw's are superior.
@xTiguex It's a combo for sure. The X7's are made from the same maple as the DW Collector's series. So there can be similarities for sure. Thanks for watching!
We love your feedback! We like hearing about the drum-heads you chose also. You post proves handy for others who are playing the X7's and need help with head choicing. Thanks so much for choosing DW and PDP!!
dw drums On our X7 kit, I think the best hands are Aquarian studio X on the toms and an Aquarian super kick Two on the kick, ours sound so good in our sanctuary With or without Mics , Caged in or not. But our other location has a Tama kit, they are totally night and day.
I absolutely love the Performance Series. I work in a drum shop and I recommend the Performance Series 9 out of 10 times to people coming in to upgrade drums. The only way I would buy a drum set that wasn't a Performance was if I was getting a custom set from DW, Truth, or Seven.
Interesting. We are happy your kit out working out for you. We suggest single ply heads but we also encourage experimenting with heads to achieve the sound you would like. Hope this helps!
Good insight for sure. We are not against using any types of drums or Roland drums for church. Gerald has been using acoustic drums for church and we are lucky to have him on our artist roster. :)
Hard to comment on that because they are the same shells. The difference is mainly in the features. The have the same sound basically so if you would like to get a smaller kit with different finish options and upgraded hardware you could go with the Concept. If you want a 7 piece kit and like the X7 finishes than you are good to go! Hope this helps!
You have it. The X7 is a seven piece kit with the option of adding a bass drum only and has a different finish selection while the M5 is a 5 piece kit with the option of 7x8, 14x16 floor tom and bass drum with finish options unique to the M5. We are still currently making the FS series. Hope this clears things up for you!
I've been fortunate to purchase two kits, one acrylic and a performance DW.Needless to say I'm very pleased.I've owned a Pearl, Gretsch and still have Premier. All good kits, but its a matter of preference. Anything of quality is worth paying for..
I have owned a PDP X7 kit in the past and I must say it is a very nice kit for the money. I now own a Collectors kit and I am very satisfied with it. I have never owned a Performance kit but I must say they sound awesome. Keep up the good work DW!!
You're right. We are not trying to compare the 2. What we can do is make shells out of the best maple we can find to insure PDP is a good sounding kit.
DW Performance! all the way! beautiful shells! with short sustain perfect for my style of playing! thank you DW for inventing this beautiful Shell! much love from Australia!
The drum hardware is almost identical to the older style Performance Series snare drum lugs. The Maple we use is grown close to our PDP factory in Taiwan.
These are the heads we stand by but we are not disappointed if customers choose to use different heads. We do our best to offer different types of heads to accommodate all customer's head requests! The Collector's Series and the Performance series are 2 different styles of shells so you will hear a difference!
@metalopolis1 Just to clear things up guys. Our maple is from the great lakes area(Michigan mostly) and it has been used from everything from DW Collectors to M5 and to X7 series.
@TheRokaz The "true tuning" is a reference to our True Pitch tension rods which have a higher thread pitch at 5mm than the standard which is at 12.24's. This gives you more than 20% more then the standard thread count which gives a more finer tuning experience. :)
@CuberMan2 Heads are a definite preference from player to player. Your best start is figure out how much sustain or focus you would like to hear. A single ply head will give your more sustain and a 2 ply head will give you more focus. The floor tom being on the left side is also a preference thing too. Some players like have a floor tom on each side because they feel there is an easier reach from that particular angle.
Well we can tell you that currently in our showroom we have a combination of Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian and Meinl on our kits. We are not cymbal specialists per say but we do like the sounds of these cymbals for sure!
Love the DW collectors kit (in black oyster glass) at our church...They're a pleasure to play and sound awesome! I still gig with my old mapex kit, and just can't get the tone I get from the DWs. can't wait till I can step up to a set of DWs for myself.
Never get tired of seeing this guy play, i have a dw kit, red sparkle with gold hardware (like neil pearts old dw kit) i wanted a 8" tom and another kick, buuuut i was told you guys cant do that finish anymore :( i need a dw snare terribly though lol!!
Those X7 kits are sleepers. I installed some Remo Emperors on the toms, and they sounded incredible! not as refined as my collectors kit, but totally functional sound, and performance to cover any job I might encounter. I also picked up a PDP MX used.. same thing. Excellent quality! I got that MX for $200.00.
Thanks for inquiring! We do not do any pricing or direct sales from our factory here. Please feel free to contact your local authorized PDP dealer. Check the link below for the nearest dealer to you. The Pearlescent White is a fine choice! drum(dot)know-where(dot)com/drum/
he brought that church feeling to it. can't wait to get pdp. when i get the money, i'm going straight towards dw. always been a dw guy but never could afford it. but i will soon and can't wait.
Sorry for the delay! The Concept received hardware upgrades and more sizing options than the X7. This would technically be the only difference between the 2. Neither would be considered better than the other.
A lot of drummers have liked Birch for it controlled sustain amount but Maple can be used just as well if that is what you like overall for tonality. Really it depends on what you like!
Hi again, wow, didn't expect a reply. Thanks very much for your reply and your great insight into the musicians/drummers church world of music and drumming. God Bless, oh, wicked chops man, freaking deadly dude.
Well it can be apples and oranges for some for some it is more cut and dry. Because the DW shells can have hoops they will have a more focused tone compared to the PDP shells that do not have hoops. DW shells are made to order as PDP are a production line kit. Both are unique in their sounds so this what you are hearing we believe. :)
The X7's are made from Maple the same as the Performance Series and Collector's series are. The Maple for the X7's is from China so there is a difference in the sound quality and also shell construction. Feel free to check out the video for the sound differences and let us know what you think! Thanks!
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Church's hold some of the best musicians in the world! Full bands with choirs. Really awesome pro level musicianship for sure!
Sorry for any confusion! We can not speak much on the Ludwig drums you found for $500 but we are sure not all of their drums are $500. We are sure they have series of drums that are at a higher price point. We DW Collector's, Jazz, Classic's, Cherry and Performance Series shells they are made in our factory in Oxnard, CA in the US so the materials and labor are pricier then being made overseas. We hope you can understand or find understanding towards this.
And the Design Series, don’t forget that.
this dude is a hard hitting, groove killin, god fearing, straight up skin slamming bad mother jammer! You got a gift son!
Bobby Droback facts...
We are sure this message will find Gerald just great! We wish you all the best for your church!
i feel like that pdp can sound as good as those high dw kits with proper tuning
I agree, change those silly heads and tune up that snare to a higher tension. Also, they EQ'd the PDP to sound thinner than the DW kits. I've had two DW Collectors kits and loved everything about them except the tone. Went back to playing Yamaha kits.
That yanaha stage custom is most def my favorite
Facts. The type of heads you use is what matters
the pdp are going to sound thinner... the pdp are impressive drums... but they aren't dw's... n like any instrument, they aren't all flawless gems. some dw's are going to sound better than others because of the timber pitches you can choose with them... pdp are engineered to all sound relatively the same. what dw offers is a hand picked, hand selected set up. where you can choose your timber notes and shell structure.
dw's will sound like mixed drums in person... pdp need extensive engineering to get them to sound close, and then it becomes an eq'd sound that musicians can hear and find disgusting. purists will tell a difference and know why dw's are superior.
Glad you are liking them! Thanks for watching!
@xTiguex It's a combo for sure. The X7's are made from the same maple as the DW Collector's series. So there can be similarities for sure. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching and your kind words! Gerald is a Gospel style drummer so we figured that would be a good theme overall for this video!
We can't wait either! Thanks so much for choosing the Performance Series!
We can talk about the products all day but everyone wants to hear the drums so You-tube has been a great outlet for us. Thanks!
@Realdealgear We love all types of music and we were very happy to have Gerald do this video with us for drums for the church!
Keeping it raw for your listening pleasure!
@xTiguex Thanks! Great to hear the X7 is going well for you. :)
Our pleasure! We are here to help. Gerald can play for sure!
Thanks for asking! Gerald is using a 9991 single tom stand with a DWSM934S in the clamp of the 9991. A resourceful use of this stand for sure!
We are very happy to hear you have had a great experience with PDP and DW! We wish you many more fun drumming times with your DW's!! Thanks!
Thanks so much for choosing the X7 series! Enjoy it for your church!
We love your feedback! We like hearing about the drum-heads you chose also. You post proves handy for others who are playing the X7's and need help with head choicing. Thanks so much for choosing DW and PDP!!
dw drums On our X7 kit, I think the best hands are Aquarian studio X on the toms and an Aquarian super kick Two on the kick, ours sound so good in our sanctuary With or without Mics , Caged in or not. But our other location has a Tama kit, they are totally night and day.
I'd LOVE to see / hear Gerald Heyward play that introductory beat in the song 'Oceans'!!!
@BittenMitten All DW and PDP drum kits come with the STM's included. So good news! You don't have to buy them separate. ;)
Thanks for asking. Our Jazz Series kits come with Die Cast hoops and you can always add Die Cast hoops to any Collector's Series kit you wish.
@metalopolis1 Our pleasure. Thanks for watching. :)
that dude guy is drumming like a badass! mad chops
@TheSteviebobevie Glad you are liking Gerald! We like him too. :)
We definitely have had discussions about a birch line for the Performance Series. No plans just yet but your suggestion does fuel our fire.
Thanks for your feedback and choosing the Performance Series! We love OZ!!
Awesome! We are happy to hear you are liking your X7 kit. Thanks for choosing PDP!!
I absolutely love the Performance Series. I work in a drum shop and I recommend the Performance Series 9 out of 10 times to people coming in to upgrade drums. The only way I would buy a drum set that wasn't a Performance was if I was getting a custom set from DW, Truth, or Seven.
Thanks for the HD sound test Jordan! The White finish looks good on you. Thanks for choosing PDP!!
Those Mastersound K's sound incredible!!!!
@cbeatz852 Thanks so much! We are happy this vid has been helpful in distinguishing between the different lines.
@tbonedrumcam We are proud that you are proud to play your PDP's! No shame in your game! Thanks for watching. :)
We used Sure SM57 for the snare, AKG D112 for bass drum, and Rode NT4 for the overheads. Thanks!
This is correct! We designed these heads with Remo for our kits specifically.
@RoshanDrummer All acoustic there we promise!
Awesome! That finish was a great choice! Thanks so much for playing PDP! Enjoy!
Interesting. We are happy your kit out working out for you. We suggest single ply heads but we also encourage experimenting with heads to achieve the sound you would like. Hope this helps!
@CallumE245 Thanks for getting back to us with your feedback. Great to hear! Enjoy your X7 and your drumming while playing the X7. :)
Good insight for sure. We are not against using any types of drums or Roland drums for church. Gerald has been using acoustic drums for church and we are lucky to have him on our artist roster. :)
Yes for sure! We are currently working on getting a Concept Series video up as we speak. Look for it on our You-Tube channel by the end of the month.
Mostly room sound with very little EQ. We used Sure SM57 for the snare, AKG D112 for bass drum, and Rode NT4 for the overheads. Thanks!
Well said! Er um thanks very, very much. :) We appreciate your kind words.
Hard to comment on that because they are the same shells. The difference is mainly in the features. The have the same sound basically so if you would like to get a smaller kit with different finish options and upgraded hardware you could go with the Concept. If you want a 7 piece kit and like the X7 finishes than you are good to go! Hope this helps!
You have it. The X7 is a seven piece kit with the option of adding a bass drum only and has a different finish selection while the M5 is a 5 piece kit with the option of 7x8, 14x16 floor tom and bass drum with finish options unique to the M5. We are still currently making the FS series. Hope this clears things up for you!
@Rudare916 Awesome! We are very happy to have you getting into a Performance kit. We look forward to making you one. :)
I've been fortunate to purchase two kits, one acrylic and a performance DW.Needless to say I'm very pleased.I've owned a Pearl, Gretsch and still have Premier. All good kits, but its a matter of preference. Anything of quality is worth paying for..
I have owned a PDP X7 kit in the past and I must say it is a very nice kit for the money. I now own a Collectors kit and I am very satisfied with it. I have never owned a Performance kit but I must say they sound awesome. Keep up the good work DW!!
Well said! Just have fun with learning more about drums!
@snooters Thanks very much. It is important that we show the differences so people can see and most importantly hear the variance between them.
We hear you. We're good with people changing even the DW heads. We happy to know that you are playing the X7's and enjoying them!
@isaacvelasquez31 We used Sure SM57 for the snare, AKG D112 for bass drum, and Rode NT4 for the overheads. Thanks!
You're right. We are not trying to compare the 2. What we can do is make shells out of the best maple we can find to insure PDP is a good sounding kit.
Glad to hear your PDP kit is going well for you!!
@liamkleckner Nice call! It was similar. Now we got that song stuck in our head. :) Not complaining though.
@TheBigBurrito1 15 years old! Nice. That's almost vintage for us. :) Thanks for choosing DW!
Go for it! This would prove a unique upgrade and a very resourceful job done by yourself.!
We bought a x7 for our church in Holland, because i watched this video, so thanks for that DW and Gerald Heyward ;)
You have a valid opinion to us! We are happy to hear you are liking the Performance Series! We can;t wait to make you a kit. :)
DW Performance! all the way! beautiful shells! with short sustain perfect for my style of playing! thank you DW for inventing this beautiful Shell!
much love from Australia!
You can always buy the DW heads after market for your PDP kit. They do come standard with a sound ring.
Thanks! We are stoked you are liking this video!
We are happy to inform you!
The drum hardware is almost identical to the older style Performance Series snare drum lugs. The Maple we use is grown close to our PDP factory in Taiwan.
@Tuckerweemsmusic Thanks so much for your feedback and support!
I watched this video and subscribed. I loved DW for years but could never afford one. But that performance series makes it possible.
These are the heads we stand by but we are not disappointed if customers choose to use different heads. We do our best to offer different types of heads to accommodate all customer's head requests! The Collector's Series and the Performance series are 2 different styles of shells so you will hear a difference!
Sweet! Thanks for choosing the Double Drive PDP kit! We are very happy to hear you liking the sound of your kit. Now go practice! :)
@metalopolis1 Just to clear things up guys. Our maple is from the great lakes area(Michigan mostly) and it has been used from everything from DW Collectors to M5 and to X7 series.
Nice! Thanks for choosing PDP!
Alright thanks so much! Enjoy your PDP kit!
@TheRokaz The "true tuning" is a reference to our True Pitch tension rods which have a higher thread pitch at 5mm than the standard which is at 12.24's. This gives you more than 20% more then the standard thread count which gives a more finer tuning experience. :)
@CuberMan2 Heads are a definite preference from player to player. Your best start is figure out how much sustain or focus you would like to hear. A single ply head will give your more sustain and a 2 ply head will give you more focus.
The floor tom being on the left side is also a preference thing too. Some players like have a floor tom on each side because they feel there is an easier reach from that particular angle.
Thanks so much! Enjoy your Performance Series drums!
Well we can tell you that currently in our showroom we have a combination of Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian and Meinl on our kits. We are not cymbal specialists per say but we do like the sounds of these cymbals for sure!
the snare of the PDP x7 is AWESOME!
Love the DW collectors kit (in black oyster glass) at our church...They're a pleasure to play and sound awesome! I still gig with my old mapex kit, and just can't get the tone I get from the DWs. can't wait till I can step up to a set of DWs for myself.
Awesome thanks so much!!! Good choice on the Performance Series! They should last you a lifetime of great hours of drumming! Enjoy!!
The heads are the stock Remo Taiwan heads that come standard on the X7 kits. They are a single ply head. Hope this helps!
@teamsleepnine Anytime! Have a great holiday season!
The ability to interpret different tones and affordable way to purchase a single instrument and Pacif Dw series .... I love them!
@drummaryan Well we are glad you have been turned on to the X7 series! They have been a great drum kit for PDP with a lot of good feedback. :)
Never get tired of seeing this guy play, i have a dw kit, red sparkle with gold hardware (like neil pearts old dw kit) i wanted a 8" tom and another kick, buuuut i was told you guys cant do that finish anymore :( i need a dw snare terribly though lol!!
Those X7 kits are sleepers. I installed some Remo Emperors on the toms, and they sounded incredible! not as refined as my collectors kit, but totally functional sound, and performance to cover any job I might encounter. I also picked up a PDP MX used.. same thing. Excellent quality! I got that MX for $200.00.
Holding it down! Almost a funky hybrid of some U2. Funny the next beat he goes super fast!
Thanks for inquiring! We do not do any pricing or direct sales from our factory here. Please feel free to contact your local authorized PDP dealer. Check the link below for the nearest dealer to you. The Pearlescent White is a fine choice!
drum(dot)know-where(dot)com/drum/
he brought that church feeling to it. can't wait to get pdp. when i get the money, i'm going straight towards dw. always been a dw guy but never could afford it. but i will soon and can't wait.
Always pushing forward!
Sorry for the delay! The Concept received hardware upgrades and more sizing options than the X7. This would technically be the only difference between the 2. Neither would be considered better than the other.
@kemallett Thank you very much for your honest feedback! We love it!
Yes that is correct! You can get a 7 piece Concept Series kit.
Definitely very similar types of Maple for sure. More affordable components to PDP for production line purposes.
Nice job! Very festive! Thanks so much for choosing DW!!
We want you to have them!
We agree! We actually upgraded the Performance Series lugs to look similar to the toms. :)
A lot of drummers have liked Birch for it controlled sustain amount but Maple can be used just as well if that is what you like overall for tonality. Really it depends on what you like!
Hi again, wow, didn't expect a reply. Thanks very much for your reply and your great insight into the musicians/drummers church world of music and drumming. God Bless, oh, wicked chops man, freaking deadly dude.
Well it can be apples and oranges for some for some it is more cut and dry. Because the DW shells can have hoops they will have a more focused tone compared to the PDP shells that do not have hoops. DW shells are made to order as PDP are a production line kit. Both are unique in their sounds so this what you are hearing we believe. :)
The X7's are made from Maple the same as the Performance Series and Collector's series are. The Maple for the X7's is from China so there is a difference in the sound quality and also shell construction. Feel free to check out the video for the sound differences and let us know what you think! Thanks!
Thanks for the video specs!!
This is the stock single ply Taiwan Remo head in this video. Thanks for watching!