Green Steve they should make it into an extremely known law that the routes are fast because they get you there fast, not that you should go down them at what would feel like a motorway speed.
The name Super Highways is such a joke for something that is not 'Super !' and doesn't have characteristics of 'highway' (uninterrupted riding/driving) ! But it fits to the grandiose language that a narcissist would use. Cycleways is indeed a much better name.
@@TimpBizkit To use a commute path as a highway in a built up area with foot crossings e.a is risky. With a car you don't drive 100 kmh in town, a similar thing goes for bikes. 10 mph is a common pace for a city bike. 15 mph would be on the high side already. ( I guess your reasoning is why in UK 'race bikers' , like John Forrester, were never in favour of separate bike paths in the past, promoting 'vehicular cycling').
A Dutchman who lived in Surrey for 31 years, I applaud London for embracing and promoting the use of the bicycle as a main form of transport. I now live in Middelburg which is easy to navigate by foot or bike. No longer having a car, I adore my new life. Keep up the good work in London. (Perhaps other towns and cities in the UK will follow suit.)
God I hope so, I was hoping that they'd call all the roads "G roads" as opposed to Motorways and A roads, B roads, C Roads... So I can easily find them on the signs and maps across the country, but some other cities do them differently.
Watching this, I cannot understand the negative comments of British people about bicycling in London. You've made a start at least and those quiet streets look as safe and hospitable as any advanced bike city in Europe.
It’s the whole country the main issue is cyclists are seen as angry hippies that cants afford a car! Instead of people who see bikes are cleaner cheaper better for your health and nicer way to get around
you cycle fast to stay safe around motorized traffic. I did the same cycling in amsterdam when the infrastructure was not what it is today. it will calm down but it takes time.
Great to see these things being built in the UK, as a northerner am naturally going to say what about the rest of the UK? But this is a great start and I understand Manchester is beginning to make strides too, however there is so much work to be done countrywide. At least we have started in a small and meaningful way in designing and prioritising our streets with travelling by two wheels in mind.
Bro I live in London and there are no cycle lanes whatsoever in my ''triangle'' i.e. work (Chiswick) - shops (Shepherds Bush) - home (Acton) ...so this is just publicising the couple of bike routes that there are and making it look like there are more. But yes I agree as a Midlander (not a Northerner, not a Southerner!) that as with most things there is too much emphasis on London. I tried cycling years ago in Birmingham and the few lanes there were a complete joke, they led you into the middle lane of giant roundabouts and just stopped, or one actually directed me against the flow of traffic in a one-way-street, there was a bus coming at me so I had to thrown my bike over the railing onto the pavement and jump over myself! After that I just rode on the pavement. Here in London I just ride on roads or sometimes through parks and actually it's no problem.
@@simonh6371 birmingham has just built two new 'cycle superhighways' which are amazing. but it's about 5 miles of infrastructure... much much more work needs to be done.
@@karter9219 Just googled that and found this B-ham Mail article - www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/cyclists-fume-cars-wheelie-bins-16406245 - but despite a couple of hiccups this is good news but like you say a lot more are needed, this is just one trajectory so the chances of you (a) living somewhere near that cycle superhighway and (b) needing to go somewhere i.e. work, shops, school with kids, which is along the same route, are pretty slim. A bit like the Midlands Metro which they have the cheek to call a ''network'' lol but it's just one line and only really useful to 1% max of the population in the West Mids, without more lines it was just a waste of money and imho is an unfinished project. I hope the same doesn't happen to the bike lane project. Btw when I lived in Bham from 2006-2009 it struck me that there were loads of places - generally along main roads with residential housing i.e. 1930s semis, that these had really wide pavements with grass and trees next to the road, with hardly anyone walking on them, as everyone living there needed a car to get to most places like supermarkets or work which were miles away, and what a shame it was that nobody though of building bike lanes along these...a bit utopian thinking at that time, it was after I had spent years living in Germany where there are loads of bike lanes and people riding bikes, and before moving to the Netherlands with even more of that. It will take decades to change the British mentality to see cycling as practical and to educate people to live healthy lifestyles in general, maybe in 50 years or so we will be like the Dutch or other Northern Europeans in this respect. You only really notice after living years abroad how unhealthy (and unhappy) so many Brits look, not just overweight but generally malnourished and with bad complexions etc.
There are some of these cylceway things in Nottingham, but not that much. Cities need good and cheap public transport (trams are good) and walking and cycling infrastructure. These things need to be widely accessible too.
I went through London by bus in 2007, and London was not peticularly carfriendly. Slugriding. I felt like stepping out of the bus and walk besides it . Motorized traffic suffered severely because of lack of bicycle infrastructure. Amsterdam is way less car inefficient than for example Florence. People who for some reason really want or need four wheel transport must realize that a good infrastructure for bicycles makes cars allso go a lot faster. "Motorists" have a lot to gain. Every person on a bike is one car less on the road. Cyclepaths create space for the remaining cars.
Why does all this stop at the end of zone 2? It could be argued that it is needed more in the outer boroughs where more people drive and drive faster (often seeing the speed limit as a minimum). Tories?
In this video I see busses racing two inches from the bikers, but I guess it’s start. Keep up the good work and it will improve. Greetings from the Netherlands.
These are good, but I note that they are mostly lanes that follow the existing road network. Roads continue to be the framework around which urban transport is designed. To truly revolutionize, planners need to forget about roads and think ‘Where would I put a cycle route if we didn’t have to put them next to the road?’ They did this in Beijing with one particular route that completely avoids the road for most part, taking a more direct path between its start and end points, because bikes can do that: they don’t need as much space, don’t need petrol stations along the way, etc.
Thanks for the video! I'm moving to London next year and having lived in The Netherlands I'm very much in bond with my bike so I needed to make sure that biking there is safe. Looking forward to cycle around the city of London!🌸
Outer boroughs of London still lack this type of segregated cycle paths, unfortunately. I hope one day provision will be made so that even young children can safely cycle to school, instead having to ride on sloped pavements (risking to lose balance) or on the road alongside lorries and skip trucks, which even myself as an adult I find intimidating, never mind a 4-year old wobbling to school on a small bike with training wheels.
The main issue with cycling is actually how we see cycling as a whole topic. *We don’t immediately see it as a commuting tool. We see it as a ‘fun making’ exercise*.That means that roads like this are *rare* and that people choose to *sell Mountain Bikes, which have a 13% decrease* in *performance for cadence and pedal pressure, making people naturally more likely to become tired* if they use the bike to get to their location where they would *like* the *exercise* to take place. If we see biking as a way to genuinely get around then it should be made necessary for the government to introduce a section of embassies which will become *THE ECONOMIC CONSULATE FOR BRITISH CYCLING*. I’d love to be a part of this, so hopefully one day this can be installed into legislature and planning LAW. Ride safe everyone ☺️
Thing is if folk cycled more often they'd get used to that extra effort in no time... If you really wanted to excercise on a bicycle everyone would ride BMX bikes around pump tracks. Or a heavy single gear around the moors. People just don't care. They just wanna ride a bike and will buy the tool best able to provide options which more often than not is gonna be the old mountain bike, the bike you can ride ANYWHERE.
It would be awesome to see a 2 x 3 lane "motor" way for bikes with the granny lane, the weekend warrior lane and the Lance Armstrong lane on either side
In the Netherlands the lanes are wide enough to accommodate a doped up Lance Armstrong overtaking a granny on a mobility scooter. Although he'd have to hurry as disability vehicles are limited to 28 mph there..
I am a shiny new adult cyclist in the London suburbs and infrastructure here is not good. They threw in some cycle lanes but they're interrupted by parking so a bit pointless and just there to meet quota. It's going to take me a while to build confidence on the roads round here, especially as I (deliberately) opted for pootling along at low speeds bike as opposed to a road bike. Ideally there'd be space (literally and figuratively) for all cyclists, for the slow, old and young up to your speed kings and queens.
@ferkemall 12 mph the e-bike kit I'm installing will do triple that - Bafang 750w mid drive with 52 tooth chainring on a 7 speed 32-11 cassette, though I won't use it that fast down a busy bike lane. I don't even need the motor to do 12 mph although it will be nice on a hill.
It's great to hear about all this extra investment in infrastructure and i've noticed a huge change since the Olympics in 2012. But can anyone tell me why London is building bi-directional bike lanes in the city, when that goes against best practices set by the Danes and the Dutch who are much more experienced at this than us? Also, we need to join up more of this network and add more bike parks at stations like the Dutch do. We've come so far, but have a long way to go!
@@tmnvanderberg Ok, that makes sense. Doing things on the cheap is not great, but I understand the pressures to save money. I wonder how many years it will be though before they wish they'd invested a bit more and done it right first time? On the space issue...I haven't studied it in detail but I would imagine the savings would not be much. 6 inches at most? I know we are very tight for space in the UK, so I can imagine situations where nothing else would fit, but it doesn't seem like you're gaining a lot.
Uk authorities will go for the cheapest option in general, no matter how small the saving is relatively. And this probably means only one side of the road is under construction creating less disruption.
Us cities desperately need to adopt this. People are literally forced to take cars as there is often not even a bike lane on alot of roads. No wonder we lead is global obesity and are a top green house producer
I guy I work with moved to Canada because of bicycles. Didn’t like how things in London were transforming. As a guy that wants to ride, I wish my city would do the same as we have very little infrastructure. He thinks I’m nuts. And said if we do, he’ll move again
The guy who is against drop bars and thinks 10mph is ideal is absolutely wrong. Flying into work is what got me cycling and kickstarted a fitness journey - I know so many others with the same story. It’s not just men either, plenty of fast females on road bikes and there’s nothing wrong with riding hard as long as you’re respectful of others and keep safe.
@@tmnvanderberg th-cam.com/video/BhESOs9V9I8/w-d-xo.html - this is what the cycle lanes are actually like during commuter time. Forget this fantasy that London can be a sleepy Dutch city if only it had wide enough cycle lanes.
@@tutelarius I'm not sure what that video is supposed to convey. The idea that Dutch people cycle because they are all living in "sleepy" cities doesn't really fit the reality of the Randstad.
@@tmnvanderberg The point is - central London transport links during commuting times are hectic, including 5 metre wide cycle lanes, and the overwhelming majority of users during those periods are adults riding to or from work, a very many of whom doing so as fast as they're able (as illustrated in the video). We have a different culture here than in NL, let's not pretend otherwise.
I agree with everything except the part where "it's social justice". Justice is the most subjective thing in the world. I like the Dutch and Danish cycling culture more, regular clothes and not that high speed is the way to go. PS: I see so many helmets that it makes me think it's unsafe, in the Netherlands the only people using helmets are tourists, BECAUSE the infrastructure is safe.
The Netherlands has a high bicycle accident rate, it makes no difference whether the infrastructure is safe. Dutch people don't wear helmets because they don't think they look cool, which is a childish reason. And Amsterdam and Copenhagen are like villages compared to London.
I was enjoying that until the guy started talking about Social Justice. We need more upright-style bikes and fewer helmets to encourage people to cycle in a more enjoyable leisurely way. This can only be done by really putting our whole will into creating interconnected cycling routes across the whole of London. Also, more priority at junctions needs to be given to cyclists and pedestrians.
@@verygoodbrother When Australia introduced compulsory helmets for cyclists in the 1990s, the number of cyclists dropped by 36%. You can check the statistics for yourself. Virtually no one in Holland wears a helmet, yet they have the greatest number of cyclists in the world per population and they are the safest country in the world in which to cycle.
@@aucourant9998 You are talking about the 1990s. Road dynamics has changed massively with people being more health and money conscious. In Holland people don't wear helmet because the infrastructure is there for safe cycling. When we did a study in london (university project) people were not put off by helmets. They more concerned about lack of safe cycle paths, bike theft, lack of bike storage and lack of showers at work. These are the main barriers to cycling uptake not helmets.
@@verygoodbrother Cycling numbers to this day haven't recovered in Australia, despite changes in infrastructure and Australians being really obsessed with fitness and outdoor pursuits. If you re-read my original comment, I said we need to improve road infrastructure. People in this country have been brainwashed into thinking helmets make things safer (they don't except for high speed or downhill cycling). I know several people like myself who would stop cycling if we were forced to wear helmets, so you must have missed us out in your survey. I'm hoping the increase in Boris bikes in cities like London will finally thwart the helmet fascists and jobsworths who want to control every area of our lives.
@@aucourant9998 Ah so you admit it that helmet smake things safer... Ok end on argument. Wear helmets, wrap it up bois we're wearing helmets, its safer!
As with cars, the more cycles on the cycle track, the slower people will ride. The key is building a large network that is useful for riders. Education, as well as official "pacing" riders, will bring down the speed to 10-15 MPH, which is most energy efficient.
@Uvuvwevwevwe Onyetenyevwe Ugwemubwem Ossas 10 what?! An average cyclist can cruise on a flat road, with no head wind at about 15 mph. A fit cyclist can sustain about 25 mph. Limiting cyclists to 10 mph would be very difficult to enforce!
Tory boy lets hope you will not end up in hospital having health problems by riding your car. Lets hope you will not be one of our patients with heart problems.
Tory Boy ~ how is it a waste of money? The city of London is packed out with tons of traffic which is at a standstill during rush-hour. This gives the people another option for transport in the city and it takes people off of crowded trains and also reduces the number of cars on the street. On top of that, this will also reduce health problems which can drain on the medical system and makes more productive individuals when they do not have certain health problems. I can’t imagine how you think it’s a waste of money.
I laugh when I hear people call them Borisbikes when the only thing he's got to do with them is that he happened to be in power when they were installed while his predecessor did all the work.
Shut up tory boy! You moron.. Ride your car til you get fat! And to let you know cars have engine and bike doesnt, of course your car will be faster you idiot
@@hymatwat9412 Cars are much more space inefficient. Think about a road full of cars, not good, but if you put them on bikes, it's a *big* improvement.
good job london but have a shit ton more work to do. have you even been to the netherlands? It's literally a ferry ride away and you act like it doesn't even exist.
Never get that anywhere else in the UK only London all other UK just nobody. It's alway about London London London the rest of the UK can get stuff .. Well the rest of the UK needs more cycling system like to this and we not important enough. We're just seen as scabs ..
Will all change when you add e-scooters to the mix cyclists want them on the road and motorists want them off the road and add to that the new fast e-bykes we should see bedlam
London is an absolute anthill. The Undergound is packed like a sardine can and the traffic is just deadlocked. Anything to increase the flow is welcome, and bike lanes do that. Londoners are pretty scary riders though. They carry their work close in backpacks and traffic is fast and dense. The first time I saw it I thought I was looking at a cross country race or some event like that. It was just a normal commute.
It's obvious why England is so far behind on cycle tracks reading the comments. Witless commentaries and worries and complaints. Forget change here, it's not wanted. Sad but true 😐
yep. same people who complain about how theyre not used, but dont seem to realise that it's a long term project and comes with great benefits to health etc. people just do not want change.
@@karter9219 yes, that's the reality, change is not thought good, unless it's smart meters or strange car headlights that are on all day, that can all happen without comment, smart motorways next. 🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗
What a load of shit. If you want people cycling actually make it safer. There are hardly any safe cycle paths in central London. Junctions, poor infrastructure, tourists just walking in the way, cars turning in, super slow tourists on bikes, narrow lanes.. road works seeming popping out of no where …. If you design a cycle route to do 10 mph… you may as well just stay on the roads Having used these super highways, and regularly cycling into London they really are not a solution. If your on a road bike….It’s safer on the roads most the time
What do you mean? You don't understand why you as a pedestrian/motorist would benefit from cyclanes and therefor don't want others to have them? Every person on a bike is a person out of their car and thus not in front of you. Every person on a bike and out of their car is more fresh air to breath. Building more car lanes isn't going to make the streets less crowded (not that there is even space for more lanes), getting people out of their car and on a bike is. Why is building more lanes not going to make it less crowded? Well lets think about it, if you make driving faster, more people will do it and you're back to square one. And if you keep building more and more lanes you end up with Los Angels like situations. Still bumper to bumper traffic for miles on end, but now 12-15 lanes of it.
5:10 'social justice', a woke term. It's not that men and women can have different preferences, it's an 'injustice' to you. You'll be trying to solve that problem forever with that mindset.
Because it is quick and free. Also the people who’ve lost their license are the people who have never cycled in their lives and never will do. Also outside of London there are very few cyclists
@@jackshears2043 I suppose if you live in a city where parking and traffic would be a nightmare, riding a bicycle would make sense. Wouldn't think UK weather would be suitable for bike riding, except for those 10 days of sunshine we hear about! We don't think of cycling as a primary mode of transport, rather a recreational activity. Given that many people live anywhere from 10 to 50km from work, you'd be just about dead from heat exhaustion and sunburn here if you rode every day.
Don Coleman in general London is a city you don’t drive into unless you have to (the suburbs are fine but the centre is gridlock and there isn’t anywhere to park). I usually take the train into London because it is quite far but I commute by bike almost every day as it’s only two miles in each direction.
@@doncoleman4938 It doesn't rain very much at all in London, I have only been riding in light rain twice in the last 3 months and commute every workday . I lived in Netherlands for 10 years and rode a bike every day, but there it rains a hell of a lot and I don't mean drizzle except in July-August, it's very windy too, and the rain is often freezing, plus you always get snow there, but still you see girls out on bikes in normal clothes, even with skirts and high heels. They're just tougher than most Brits, except for maybe Geordies lol
I'm from London, in my 40's and have never had a license. My parents didn't have a car when I was growing up and neither did their friends. I think the vast majority of people driving in London are driving from outside of London. A car is not needed here, you can get everywhere by bus and tube for less than you would spend on parking a car.
Tory Boy No. They don’t. But even if it were an income stream to be spent on roads alone(which it isn’t), it would be fair. Cycling is by far the cheapest form of transport for the user and the City itself, it doesn’t produce any air pollution-which is causing a health epidemic for Londoners. Cycling produces far less damage to roads, creates safer streets at lower speeds, eliminates heavy noise pollution and is a massive health benefit to all users (saving potentially millions to the NHS). It comes down to what kind of city London wants to be, one for people or one for vehicle traffic. Of course there will always be people who need to use the roads, but this is a real advancement towards a London for everyone. Maybe you should give the cycle a go? you might even enjoy it!
Tony boy you are such an idiot. Road tax arent spent for road only. The government spend it to different things like healthcare, infrastructure, etc. Cyclist pay tax and every person in the uk. Dont say that tge road is only for motorists or cars or bus... It seems you dont know whats happening to our taxes here in this country.
Build it and they will come!
100%. We need to have the political will to take space away from motor vehicles and have that space to active travel
@ferkemall Plenty of people cycle in winter. Somewhat ironically, not snowflakes.
@ferkemall OK snowflake.
If you want people to ride more slowly on Super Highways, don't call them Super Highways.
So here I am 2 months later having learned that they will be renamed Cycleways!
Green Steve they should make it into an extremely known law that the routes are fast because they get you there fast, not that you should go down them at what would feel like a motorway speed.
I'd say at least 15 mph as 10 mph is too slow. We have somewhere to be too. Although if I want to go bombing along at 30 i can use the road
The name Super Highways is such a joke for something that is not 'Super !' and doesn't have characteristics of 'highway' (uninterrupted riding/driving) ! But it fits to the grandiose language that a narcissist would use. Cycleways is indeed a much better name.
@@TimpBizkit To use a commute path as a highway in a built up area with foot crossings e.a is risky. With a car you don't drive 100 kmh in town, a similar thing goes for bikes. 10 mph is a common pace for a city bike. 15 mph would be on the high side already. ( I guess your reasoning is why in UK 'race bikers' , like John Forrester, were never in favour of separate bike paths in the past, promoting 'vehicular cycling').
A Dutchman who lived in Surrey for 31 years, I applaud London for embracing and promoting the use of the bicycle as a main form of transport. I now live in Middelburg which is easy to navigate by foot or bike. No longer having a car, I adore my new life. Keep up the good work in London. (Perhaps other towns and cities in the UK will follow suit.)
This is a really uplifting film. Hopefully where London leads the rest of the country will follow. 👍
God I hope so, I was hoping that they'd call all the roads "G roads" as opposed to Motorways and A roads, B roads, C Roads... So I can easily find them on the signs and maps across the country, but some other cities do them differently.
Well done London, keep up the good work.
I agree 👍... they achieve there goal when everyone is cycling without a helmet.. than the total self awareness is achieved
@@Aitmesss the reason it's not illegal to ride without a helmet is because if it was less people would cycle
@@rafaricho exactly. If I'm going somewhere planned, where would I put the helmet?
Watching this, I cannot understand the negative comments of British people about bicycling in London.
You've made a start at least and those quiet streets look as safe and hospitable as any advanced bike city in Europe.
This clip cherry picked the best parts. The rest is just a blue line painted on the road. Its a joke to be honest
@@suminshizzles6951 Of course, I couldn't imagine the true scale of (Greater) London.
It has a population of 8-9 million people!
It’s the whole country the main issue is cyclists are seen as angry hippies that cants afford a car! Instead of people who see bikes are cleaner cheaper better for your health and nicer way to get around
@@mrkiosk245 Not always nicer but if you're in a large build-up area, taking a bike is much quicker than sitting in traffic in a car.
@@AudieHolland They're a lot more fun than cars too.
you cycle fast to stay safe around motorized traffic.
I did the same cycling in amsterdam when the infrastructure was not what it is today.
it will calm down but it takes time.
Great to see these things being built in the UK, as a northerner am naturally going to say what about the rest of the UK? But this is a great start and I understand Manchester is beginning to make strides too, however there is so much work to be done countrywide. At least we have started in a small and meaningful way in designing and prioritising our streets with travelling by two wheels in mind.
Bro I live in London and there are no cycle lanes whatsoever in my ''triangle'' i.e. work (Chiswick) - shops (Shepherds Bush) - home (Acton) ...so this is just publicising the couple of bike routes that there are and making it look like there are more. But yes I agree as a Midlander (not a Northerner, not a Southerner!) that as with most things there is too much emphasis on London. I tried cycling years ago in Birmingham and the few lanes there were a complete joke, they led you into the middle lane of giant roundabouts and just stopped, or one actually directed me against the flow of traffic in a one-way-street, there was a bus coming at me so I had to thrown my bike over the railing onto the pavement and jump over myself! After that I just rode on the pavement. Here in London I just ride on roads or sometimes through parks and actually it's no problem.
@@simonh6371 birmingham has just built two new 'cycle superhighways' which are amazing. but it's about 5 miles of infrastructure... much much more work needs to be done.
@@karter9219 Just googled that and found this B-ham Mail article - www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/cyclists-fume-cars-wheelie-bins-16406245 - but despite a couple of hiccups this is good news but like you say a lot more are needed, this is just one trajectory so the chances of you (a) living somewhere near that cycle superhighway and (b) needing to go somewhere i.e. work, shops, school with kids, which is along the same route, are pretty slim. A bit like the Midlands Metro which they have the cheek to call a ''network'' lol but it's just one line and only really useful to 1% max of the population in the West Mids, without more lines it was just a waste of money and imho is an unfinished project. I hope the same doesn't happen to the bike lane project. Btw when I lived in Bham from 2006-2009 it struck me that there were loads of places - generally along main roads with residential housing i.e. 1930s semis, that these had really wide pavements with grass and trees next to the road, with hardly anyone walking on them, as everyone living there needed a car to get to most places like supermarkets or work which were miles away, and what a shame it was that nobody though of building bike lanes along these...a bit utopian thinking at that time, it was after I had spent years living in Germany where there are loads of bike lanes and people riding bikes, and before moving to the Netherlands with even more of that. It will take decades to change the British mentality to see cycling as practical and to educate people to live healthy lifestyles in general, maybe in 50 years or so we will be like the Dutch or other Northern Europeans in this respect. You only really notice after living years abroad how unhealthy (and unhappy) so many Brits look, not just overweight but generally malnourished and with bad complexions etc.
London is so mich more populated (and more liberal) so not suprising that this happened there first.
There are some of these cylceway things in Nottingham, but not that much. Cities need good and cheap public transport (trams are good) and walking and cycling infrastructure. These things need to be widely accessible too.
I went through London by bus in 2007, and London was not peticularly carfriendly. Slugriding. I felt like stepping out of the bus and walk besides it . Motorized traffic suffered severely because of lack of bicycle infrastructure. Amsterdam is way less car inefficient than for example Florence. People who for some reason really want or need four wheel transport must realize that a good infrastructure for bicycles makes cars allso go a lot faster. "Motorists" have a lot to gain. Every person on a bike is one car less on the road. Cyclepaths create space for the remaining cars.
Why does all this stop at the end of zone 2? It could be argued that it is needed more in the outer boroughs where more people drive and drive faster (often seeing the speed limit as a minimum). Tories?
CS7 goes down to Colliers Wood in Zone 3.
In this video I see busses racing two inches from the bikers, but I guess it’s start. Keep up the good work and it will improve. Greetings from the Netherlands.
That shot with the bus looked indeed insane from a Dutch perspective. Just shows you how spoiled we are.
These are good, but I note that they are mostly lanes that follow the existing road network. Roads continue to be the framework around which urban transport is designed. To truly revolutionize, planners need to forget about roads and think ‘Where would I put a cycle route if we didn’t have to put them next to the road?’ They did this in Beijing with one particular route that completely avoids the road for most part, taking a more direct path between its start and end points, because bikes can do that: they don’t need as much space, don’t need petrol stations along the way, etc.
Thanks for the video! I'm moving to London next year and having lived in The Netherlands I'm very much in bond with my bike so I needed to make sure that biking there is safe. Looking forward to cycle around the city of London!🌸
Outer boroughs of London still lack this type of segregated cycle paths, unfortunately. I hope one day provision will be made so that even young children can safely cycle to school, instead having to ride on sloped pavements (risking to lose balance) or on the road alongside lorries and skip trucks, which even myself as an adult I find intimidating, never mind a 4-year old wobbling to school on a small bike with training wheels.
Snow Bird waste of money. Roads are for me driving my bmw down pub
I agree with you. Here in watford there is no improvement
@@onebicycle3772 Watford isn't in London lmfao
@@tescotrain and also London was diffrerent before lmfao
The main issue with cycling is actually how we see cycling as a whole topic. *We don’t immediately see it as a commuting tool. We see it as a ‘fun making’ exercise*.That means that roads like this are *rare* and that people choose to *sell Mountain Bikes, which have a 13% decrease* in *performance for cadence and pedal pressure, making people naturally more likely to become tired* if they use the bike to get to their location where they would *like* the *exercise* to take place. If we see biking as a way to genuinely get around then it should be made necessary for the government to introduce a section of embassies which will become *THE ECONOMIC CONSULATE FOR BRITISH CYCLING*.
I’d love to be a part of this, so hopefully one day this can be installed into legislature and planning LAW.
Ride safe everyone ☺️
Thing is if folk cycled more often they'd get used to that extra effort in no time... If you really wanted to excercise on a bicycle everyone would ride BMX bikes around pump tracks. Or a heavy single gear around the moors. People just don't care. They just wanna ride a bike and will buy the tool best able to provide options which more often than not is gonna be the old mountain bike, the bike you can ride ANYWHERE.
@@kudosbudo Why would you ride a mountainbike daily, on those things you have to bend over because of the low handlebars.
Many people wear helmets in London even on dedicated cycle lanes while in Holland, I don't see many
Separate cycle lanes are short so when you go on regular roads you have many speed bumps and pot holes so wearing a helmet is best.
*NETHERLANDS*
Beautiful.
Boris we need this nationally, do this and you can 'keep' my vote
If by some miracle Cummings allowed Johnson to do this it doesn't weigh up against the people he's killing by being an incompetent piece of shit.
Cars are only for travelling significant distances if you think about it. People should not be lazy
It would be awesome to see a 2 x 3 lane "motor" way for bikes with the granny lane, the weekend warrior lane and the Lance Armstrong lane on either side
In the Netherlands the lanes are wide enough to accommodate a doped up Lance Armstrong overtaking a granny on a mobility scooter. Although he'd have to hurry as disability vehicles are limited to 28 mph there..
Let the Lance Armstrong types ride themselves to death with the cars
Shhh not supposed to mention his name & cycling matters, he being the 1 & only doper eva!!!
Talking about Quietways and showing CS7 is a little confusing but at least it's the back streets of Elephant and Castle rather than the A3 bit.
I am a shiny new adult cyclist in the London suburbs and infrastructure here is not good. They threw in some cycle lanes but they're interrupted by parking so a bit pointless and just there to meet quota. It's going to take me a while to build confidence on the roads round here, especially as I (deliberately) opted for pootling along at low speeds bike as opposed to a road bike. Ideally there'd be space (literally and figuratively) for all cyclists, for the slow, old and young up to your speed kings and queens.
They seem to cycle very fast there.
8:17 Dutch cyclists seem to go slower - more like the 10mph mentioned as "ideal" - also the gender split there seems more 50/50
@ferkemall 12 mph the e-bike kit I'm installing will do triple that - Bafang 750w mid drive with 52 tooth chainring on a 7 speed 32-11 cassette, though I won't use it that fast down a busy bike lane. I don't even need the motor to do 12 mph although it will be nice on a hill.
It's great to hear about all this extra investment in infrastructure and i've noticed a huge change since the Olympics in 2012. But can anyone tell me why London is building bi-directional bike lanes in the city, when that goes against best practices set by the Danes and the Dutch who are much more experienced at this than us? Also, we need to join up more of this network and add more bike parks at stations like the Dutch do. We've come so far, but have a long way to go!
Bidirectional bike lanes take less space and are cheaper. You find a lot of them in Netherlands when space, money and/or bike traffic are limited.
@@tmnvanderberg Ok, that makes sense. Doing things on the cheap is not great, but I understand the pressures to save money. I wonder how many years it will be though before they wish they'd invested a bit more and done it right first time? On the space issue...I haven't studied it in detail but I would imagine the savings would not be much. 6 inches at most? I know we are very tight for space in the UK, so I can imagine situations where nothing else would fit, but it doesn't seem like you're gaining a lot.
Uk authorities will go for the cheapest option in general, no matter how small the saving is relatively. And this probably means only one side of the road is under construction creating less disruption.
Uk always has rather short-termist thinking
@@mdhazeldine the Bi-Directional lanes can always be converted later.
Us cities desperately need to adopt this. People are literally forced to take cars as there is often not even a bike lane on alot of roads. No wonder we lead is global obesity and are a top green house producer
Inspiring. I'll be hiring a bike on my next visit to London. Ebikes might get older people cycling as well
There's the dockless Uber Lime ebikes for hire as well.
Great work. And watching other commuter videos these bikeways are the fastest way across London.
This is incredible! Vancouver could really use these... As could so many other North American cities.
Can scooters and e-bikes use them?
I guy I work with moved to Canada because of bicycles. Didn’t like how things in London were transforming. As a guy that wants to ride, I wish my city would do the same as we have very little infrastructure. He thinks I’m nuts. And said if we do, he’ll move again
Some people love their cars. I have a few relatives like that.
Go London go. Nice work!
The guy who is against drop bars and thinks 10mph is ideal is absolutely wrong. Flying into work is what got me cycling and kickstarted a fitness journey - I know so many others with the same story. It’s not just men either, plenty of fast females on road bikes and there’s nothing wrong with riding hard as long as you’re respectful of others and keep safe.
Cool. can you all get bells though so you can let us chilling out no you are flying up behind us like loonies please.
I like to ride fast when I'm on my road bike but I don't think that's viable in a busy city cycling lane used by people of all ages.
@@tmnvanderberg th-cam.com/video/BhESOs9V9I8/w-d-xo.html - this is what the cycle lanes are actually like during commuter time. Forget this fantasy that London can be a sleepy Dutch city if only it had wide enough cycle lanes.
@@tutelarius I'm not sure what that video is supposed to convey.
The idea that Dutch people cycle because they are all living in "sleepy" cities doesn't really fit the reality of the Randstad.
@@tmnvanderberg The point is - central London transport links during commuting times are hectic, including 5 metre wide cycle lanes, and the overwhelming majority of users during those periods are adults riding to or from work, a very many of whom doing so as fast as they're able (as illustrated in the video). We have a different culture here than in NL, let's not pretend otherwise.
So why do more people seem to be wearing helmets in London than in Amsterdam (and many other Dutch cities)?
Because car owners are regularly trying to kill them, as are pedestrians. Alot of people in the UK are terrified of bicycles.
@@mikewade777, that's _bloody_ awful ol' boy.
@@mikewade777 Not regularly.
If you cycle try riding Critical Mass in your own town or city on the last Friday of every month. Celebrate cycling and help make our presence felt.
Amazing progress !!
I agree with everything except the part where "it's social justice".
Justice is the most subjective thing in the world.
I like the Dutch and Danish cycling culture more, regular clothes and not that high speed is the way to go.
PS: I see so many helmets that it makes me think it's unsafe, in the Netherlands the only people using helmets are tourists, BECAUSE the infrastructure is safe.
You have to start somewhere … give it some time.
We need them in the suburbs of London e.g. Hounslow where I live which is still laging behind Central London with its cycling infastructure.
Puro Holland wasted money on cycle tracks
Wim Ahlers close them and make extra space for cars
The Netherlands has a high bicycle accident rate, it makes no difference whether the infrastructure is safe. Dutch people don't wear helmets because they don't think they look cool, which is a childish reason. And Amsterdam and Copenhagen are like villages compared to London.
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I was enjoying that until the guy started talking about Social Justice. We need more upright-style bikes and fewer helmets to encourage people to cycle in a more enjoyable leisurely way. This can only be done by really putting our whole will into creating interconnected cycling routes across the whole of London. Also, more priority at junctions needs to be given to cyclists and pedestrians.
The idea that having to wear a helmet is discouraging people from cycling in the UK is laughable.
@@verygoodbrother When Australia introduced compulsory helmets for cyclists in the 1990s, the number of cyclists dropped by 36%. You can check the statistics for yourself. Virtually no one in Holland wears a helmet, yet they have the greatest number of cyclists in the world per population and they are the safest country in the world in which to cycle.
@@aucourant9998 You are talking about the 1990s. Road dynamics has changed massively with people being more health and money conscious.
In Holland people don't wear helmet because the infrastructure is there for safe cycling.
When we did a study in london (university project) people were not put off by helmets. They more concerned about lack of safe cycle paths, bike theft, lack of bike storage and lack of showers at work. These are the main barriers to cycling uptake not helmets.
@@verygoodbrother Cycling numbers to this day haven't recovered in Australia, despite changes in infrastructure and Australians being really obsessed with fitness and outdoor pursuits. If you re-read my original comment, I said we need to improve road infrastructure. People in this country have been brainwashed into thinking helmets make things safer (they don't except for high speed or downhill cycling). I know several people like myself who would stop cycling if we were forced to wear helmets, so you must have missed us out in your survey. I'm hoping the increase in Boris bikes in cities like London will finally thwart the helmet fascists and jobsworths who want to control every area of our lives.
@@aucourant9998 Ah so you admit it that helmet smake things safer... Ok end on argument. Wear helmets, wrap it up bois we're wearing helmets, its safer!
As with cars, the more cycles on the cycle track, the slower people will ride. The key is building a large network that is useful for riders. Education, as well as official "pacing" riders, will bring down the speed to 10-15 MPH, which is most energy efficient.
5:02 What the...? Time traveler?
10mph?..unrealistic buddy, I could live with a 20mph top end rule
@Uvuvwevwevwe Onyetenyevwe Ugwemubwem Ossas 10 what?! An average cyclist can cruise on a flat road, with no head wind at about 15 mph. A fit cyclist can sustain about 25 mph. Limiting cyclists to 10 mph would be very difficult to enforce!
An old granny can't ride so fast and we need grannies, wives and kids to ride the streets safely
20mph? And then 1000 traffic lights to stop Captain Coconuts like you. You will be slow as fuck.
Haha! I love your youtube name...even though I wish we didn't have to...
15 mph speed limit is more realistic indeed. 10 mph is indeed very usual in Dutch cities, but those (old) one-way bike paths are pretty narrow.
We are so far behind in the US.
Far behind everywhere on cycle paths.
So was London until a decade ago.
Yes. Just in general, not only (cycling) infra. Don't worry, we still like you more than the Russians/Chinese.
As a Dutch person, these highways are boring and small
😂😂😂 I’ve been to Holland, you guys really do know how to build cycling infrastructure. 😎👍🏻
Good job London !!
Ricardo van Ewijk waste of money
Tory boy lets hope you will not end up in hospital having health problems by riding your car. Lets hope you will not be one of our patients with heart problems.
Tory Boy ~ how is it a waste of money? The city of London is packed out with tons of traffic which is at a standstill during rush-hour. This gives the people another option for transport in the city and it takes people off of crowded trains and also reduces the number of cars on the street. On top of that, this will also reduce health problems which can drain on the medical system and makes more productive individuals when they do not have certain health problems. I can’t imagine how you think it’s a waste of money.
But even the bicycles have to drive on the wrong side!
i laughed when the american dude called the boris bikes "citibikes" like he's in nyc... headassery
I think u got bigger things to worry about
I laugh when I hear people call them Borisbikes when the only thing he's got to do with them is that he happened to be in power when they were installed while his predecessor did all the work.
I love cycling in London. Santender bikes is a little expensive considering 30 mins duration!
I find if the duration would be just 15min longer all trips would be so much easier. I usually end up paying extra by only a few minutes, so annoying.
Maybe it will be all the Santander cyclists whipping along trying to get their money's worth
way to go London!
MrR233 no it’s slowed cars down
Shut up tory boy! You moron.. Ride your car til you get fat! And to let you know cars have engine and bike doesnt, of course your car will be faster you idiot
@@hymatwat9412 Cars are much more space inefficient. Think about a road full of cars, not good, but if you put them on bikes, it's a *big* improvement.
Cyclist tend to ride super fast on the super highway..... yeah no shit usually cars go super fast on the highways too =)
good job london but have a shit ton more work to do. have you even been to the netherlands? It's literally a ferry ride away and you act like it doesn't even exist.
Way to GO London!
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Need better cycle infrastructure in Leeds
These are good videos.
Given the frequency of rain and cold in England, the Tube and buses are also vital.
10mph is too slow.
Maybe section out where faster riders can ride and more casual riders can ride.
Never get that anywhere else in the UK only London all other UK just nobody. It's alway about London London London the rest of the UK can get stuff ..
Well the rest of the UK needs more cycling system like to this and we not important enough. We're just seen as scabs ..
Ojalá esto pase en Madrid
Will all change when you add e-scooters to the mix cyclists want them on the road and motorists want them off the road and add to that the new fast e-bykes we should see bedlam
They shouldn't call it super highway. It is an abomination.
Its not a bike highway, but a bikelane because of your not going 45 kmh🤔🤔
Super
L.B.Bexley complete lack of proper cycle lanes.
London is an absolute anthill. The Undergound is packed like a sardine can and the traffic is just deadlocked. Anything to increase the flow is welcome, and bike lanes do that. Londoners are pretty scary riders though. They carry their work close in backpacks and traffic is fast and dense. The first time I saw it I thought I was looking at a cross country race or some event like that. It was just a normal commute.
Stop calling them superhighways, as if it’s special. Call it what it is: cycle lanes.
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It's obvious why England is so far behind on cycle tracks reading the comments.
Witless commentaries and worries and complaints.
Forget change here, it's not wanted.
Sad but true 😐
yep. same people who complain about how theyre not used, but dont seem to realise that it's a long term project and comes with great benefits to health etc. people just do not want change.
@@karter9219 yes, that's the reality, change is not thought good, unless it's smart meters or strange car headlights that are on all day, that can all happen without comment, smart motorways next.
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"Super highways" my ass. Just a glorified sidewalk.
What a load of shit. If you want people cycling actually make it safer. There are hardly any safe cycle paths in central London. Junctions, poor infrastructure, tourists just walking in the way, cars turning in, super slow tourists on bikes, narrow lanes.. road works seeming popping out of no where
…. If you design a cycle route to do 10 mph… you may as well just stay on the roads
Having used these super highways, and regularly cycling into London they really are not a solution. If your on a road bike….It’s safer on the roads most the time
Sounds like a lot of positive spin unfortunately. The majority of city roads are so toxic they're illegal. And it's just 'normal'.
As a can't I'm saying LameTrashHighway
Lycra clad twats
Even the most backward town in Holland has better cycle paths.
Everything seems cool except that steroid heads cycling roadbikes 40-50 miles per hour and make roads again unsafe...We need cycle police
What about the rest of us.
Uh? Have you seen how many roads there are in London? You can't be serious.
What do you mean? You don't understand why you as a pedestrian/motorist would benefit from cyclanes and therefor don't want others to have them?
Every person on a bike is a person out of their car and thus not in front of you. Every person on a bike and out of their car is more fresh air to breath.
Building more car lanes isn't going to make the streets less crowded (not that there is even space for more lanes), getting people out of their car and on a bike is. Why is building more lanes not going to make it less crowded? Well lets think about it, if you make driving faster, more people will do it and you're back to square one. And if you keep building more and more lanes you end up with Los Angels like situations. Still bumper to bumper traffic for miles on end, but now 12-15 lanes of it.
Good job London only take off that stupid plastic hats lol.
5:10 'social justice', a woke term. It's not that men and women can have different preferences, it's an 'injustice' to you. You'll be trying to solve that problem forever with that mindset.
Why are there so many cyclists in Britain? Is there a fitness craze or are there a large number who've lost their licence?
Because it is quick and free. Also the people who’ve lost their license are the people who have never cycled in their lives and never will do. Also outside of London there are very few cyclists
@@jackshears2043 I suppose if you live in a city where parking and traffic would be a nightmare, riding a bicycle would make sense. Wouldn't think UK weather would be suitable for bike riding, except for those 10 days of sunshine we hear about! We don't think of cycling as a primary mode of transport, rather a recreational activity. Given that many people live anywhere from 10 to 50km from work, you'd be just about dead from heat exhaustion and sunburn here if you rode every day.
Don Coleman in general London is a city you don’t drive into unless you have to (the suburbs are fine but the centre is gridlock and there isn’t anywhere to park). I usually take the train into London because it is quite far but I commute by bike almost every day as it’s only two miles in each direction.
@@doncoleman4938 It doesn't rain very much at all in London, I have only been riding in light rain twice in the last 3 months and commute every workday . I lived in Netherlands for 10 years and rode a bike every day, but there it rains a hell of a lot and I don't mean drizzle except in July-August, it's very windy too, and the rain is often freezing, plus you always get snow there, but still you see girls out on bikes in normal clothes, even with skirts and high heels. They're just tougher than most Brits, except for maybe Geordies lol
I'm from London, in my 40's and have never had a license. My parents didn't have a car when I was growing up and neither did their friends. I think the vast majority of people driving in London are driving from outside of London. A car is not needed here, you can get everywhere by bus and tube for less than you would spend on parking a car.
And do cyclists pay road tax ? Roads are for cars , delivery vehicles and to give me a quick drive to my club
Tory Boy No. They don’t. But even if it were an income stream to be spent on roads alone(which it isn’t), it would be fair. Cycling is by far the cheapest form of transport for the user and the City itself, it doesn’t produce any air pollution-which is causing a health epidemic for Londoners.
Cycling produces far less damage to roads, creates safer streets at lower speeds, eliminates heavy noise pollution and is a massive health benefit to all users (saving potentially millions to the NHS).
It comes down to what kind of city London wants to be, one for people or one for vehicle traffic.
Of course there will always be people who need to use the roads, but this is a real advancement towards a London for everyone.
Maybe you should give the cycle a go? you might even enjoy it!
I do... On my car.... So I think I can get away without paying it in my bike!
Tony boy you are such an idiot. Road tax arent spent for road only. The government spend it to different things like healthcare, infrastructure, etc. Cyclist pay tax and every person in the uk. Dont say that tge road is only for motorists or cars or bus... It seems you dont know whats happening to our taxes here in this country.
Do you guys ever get bored of saying “and do cyclists pay road tax?” ?
A car causes the same wear and tear as 65,000 cyclists so why should cyclists pay when electric cars don’t?
What is social justice?