Prince Aemond and Alys Rivers are the founders of house Whent and ancestors of house Tully

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  • @thatstarscourgebrother680
    @thatstarscourgebrother680 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My love for Team Black, Green, Smalfolk, and Alysmond is stronger than a triple shot espresso - it's what keeps me going every day! Thank you Great Video!

    • @JessieBearBookClub
      @JessieBearBookClub  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thatstarscourgebrother680 really glad you liked the video ❤️😀

  • @Spawn28900
    @Spawn28900 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video 🎉🎉🎉

  • @jennifera.4511
    @jennifera.4511 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Woah woah now my brain exploded with the possibility. Alright, here I go looking for info and going full "conspirational theory":
    Alys is considered a Strong bastard, House Strong is said to exist since the Age of Heroes, I see high potential for special genes here despite not knowing about any memorable Strong of this period, we'll never know whether or not this is true. Now, the Dance happened between 129 - 131 AC, Aemond dies in 130, but we do not know what happens to her after she claims, in 132, that the child she presents is Aemond's because Winter Fever strikes Westeros is that same year, brought by, apparently, foreigners of Ib. We don't know what happened to them, but considering the stories about "the witch queen of harrenhall" I don't doubt they've survived, magic people seem to be more difficult to get sick I think lol.
    About House Whent... first I traced back its origin to see what I could find: House Whent of Harrenhal was born from a hedge knight in 233 AC who had served (and later helped defeat) the Lothstons of Harrenhal. House Lothston exists as 'family name' since the time of Maegor I with Guy Lothston, but the title of the House as Lords of Harrenhal was given after the Dance, in 151, when Master-of-Arms Ser Lucas Lothston was ordered to wed Aegon IV's first mistress, Falena Stokeworth to remove her from Court.
    Aegon IV have consistently visited Harrenhal afterwards to see his mistresses Falena and her daughter Jeyne (some people even think she's another bastard of Aegon passed off as Lothston), it might have resulted in many bastards with a new injection of special genes (and mad genes as well, in Jeyne's case) but we have no info about any children from any of these women.
    In terms of Lothstons's future generations, we have Manfred Lothston who was part of the first Blackfyre rebellion and said to have betrayed Daemon Blackfyre. Then Mad Danelle Lothston answered Bloodraven's call to smash the second Blackfyre rebelion. However, the rumors of Mad Danelle making use of dark arts were spreading like wildfire and disturbing the peace in Westeros, which made King Maekar I take action and cause her downfall in 233 AC.
    It's curious, though, that House Whent kept some elements of Lothston sigil: House Lothston was a huge bat upon a field of silver and gold. House Whent is 7 bats upon a golden field. Maybe they were connected, by friendship or blood, or maybe both.
    The more I looked up for info, the more fascinated I got, like... House Lothston already existed before Aemond, but considering we have zero info about Jeyne's or Falena's descendants, now I dream that Alys bastard child or her grandson, or her great-grandson or whatever was paired up with some unknown descendant of Jeyne, originating the Whents as a branch of Lothston. The more complicated, the more likely is for Martin to come up with something like this, even more considering that we were never given a definitive founding year for House Whent, so the info certainly has a vital role, so important that Martin opted to let the info vague even considering that Cat, a POV character, is half Whent. lol
    Thank you for the theory, I was obsessed gathering the infos here lol OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE AEMOND'S BLOODLINE PREVAILED IN THE TV SHOW AND NOT RHAENYRA'S! WHAT A WILD TURN OF EVENTS 🤩😂

    • @JessieBearBookClub
      @JessieBearBookClub  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennifera.4511 omg that was some deep dive tbh one I made the video I couldn’t stop thinking about all the mistresses and Jeyne. I bet there is lots of dragon blood floating around the river lands and don’t forget Jenny of old stones and her woods witch

    • @burtan2000
      @burtan2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me thinks you reach for evidence to support your desired conclusion.
      Conclusions are not supposed to lead us to evidence, but rather the evidence to a conclusion.
      House Whent doesn't need a targ progenitor to be cool. They're cool bc it's Batman and Harrenhal, and bc Oswald was at the Tower of Joy. With the Dayne and who else? A fucking HIGHTOWER.

    • @JessieBearBookClub
      @JessieBearBookClub  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@burtan2000 I do say it probably tinfoil but I enjoy the idea of team green winning in the very end

  • @SeptaShaenasSapphires
    @SeptaShaenasSapphires 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Assuming the special gene is on the X chromosome, it definitely helps the Stark boys’ chances if Cat is special.

    • @JessieBearBookClub
      @JessieBearBookClub  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SeptaShaenasSapphires it would also make more sense to that she was brought back after being in the river 3 days

  • @KarlKarsnark
    @KarlKarsnark 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Whents of Winter: Confirmed?!?!

    • @JessieBearBookClub
      @JessieBearBookClub  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KarlKarsnark love that name 😀