2016 Proton Persona 1.6L Premium CVT review - AutoBuzz.my

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  • You guys asked for Proton Persona review? Here it is! This time, GC Mah tells you all THE GOODS and THE BUTS of this all-new Persona. So, is this car for you? Watch to find out!
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ความคิดเห็น • 199

  • @silverelgrandlow6298
    @silverelgrandlow6298 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The looks definitely scream "Hatchback Converted Sedan" but I do think is looks OK. And there are a few advantages with this design.
    You sit higher than most sedans giving you a good view out and on longer journeys it is more comfortable with an airy cabin.
    For a damn tall person like me the interior fits me perfectly.
    The rear seats(apart from the lack of headrests) are the best in the Segment. Most small sedans will have a lot of legroom but no thigh or leg support. This has a low floor and high roofline. And it helps a lot for the rear passangers.
    Visibility is close to perfect with big, tall windows, plus it's easy to just look around for traffic.
    Most of all he forgot to mention the seats in this car are one of the best I've sat in. It's not bad at all.
    However if Proton did a manual on the premium. I would buy that car. in a heartbeat. Because I've driven the manual and it was awesome

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Silver Low
      I like the manual too. The CVT here's better than in the Iriz though.

    • @silverelgrandlow6298
      @silverelgrandlow6298 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kemayan Labu Oh definitely. I personally like CVT automatics as it compliments my driving style. And it gets good fuel economy too!
      However I still prefer driving a stick compared to an auto anytime. No matter how congested KL may be. haha

    • @kamsainikamaludin7181
      @kamsainikamaludin7181 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly

    • @amirhariri21
      @amirhariri21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      as for me, the rear seat is one the biggest drawback. there are no adjusted headrest like in the Iriz, and the fixed headrest is a little bit low. plus, the leg room for rear seat also very small, probably because of the big size of the trunk.

    • @bujangterlajak7634
      @bujangterlajak7634 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thnkyou, u help me to decide well

  • @hafizyaakob5753
    @hafizyaakob5753 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow i like Proton Persona, my Malaysia car brand ❤

  • @mohdsyawal9117
    @mohdsyawal9117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simple review . . This's absolutely not fair !

  • @jasonwong3070
    @jasonwong3070 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 2.19,I think they pull the front seat all the way in front to show the rear seat spacious legroom, but what I see in Showroom is different,when the front seat adjust to driving position, the rear seat legroom is small like hell.

  • @LoiKimWei3
    @LoiKimWei3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Proton car is like a little girl u know since childhood, u know she is a good girl, being bad and naughty during teen age. Now she trying to be good and mature. U like her very much, but u scare one day she will betray u. i think some consumer have the same feeling with proton, they know the car is well built and ride well, but with the past it have, some might just turn away and just look at the Japanese-Malaysian mixed girl

  • @keithlim2555
    @keithlim2555 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so excited about the calculator app! Good job Proton! We definitely need that!

  • @jajabinx8
    @jajabinx8 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i'm undergoing the process of owning one but with the Persona standard variant. i've had my sweet experience with a Perodua myvi 1.3 basic, and now looking forward for an engine power upgrade. let's just hope it turns out for the better. might even make a comparative review on them.

    • @Azri1157
      @Azri1157 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jaja Binx i am now same situation as you.. hows ur experience using persona?

    • @amirhariri21
      @amirhariri21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so how your experience?

  • @irizziri1572
    @irizziri1572 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice review of the new proton persona. i like when you say THE GOOD 😂 and THE BUT 😂

  • @davidwang1502
    @davidwang1502 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    nice review good job. however I hope in future don't put "the good" and "the but" so many times. instead. better to compile all "the good" then later all "the but"

    • @idawan09
      @idawan09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      David Wang agreed

    • @Quintslayer
      @Quintslayer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      very annoying la this part Carbuzz

    • @hfzpojie4545
      @hfzpojie4545 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Wang yup . Annoy la

  • @Blazilvez
    @Blazilvez 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    GC Mah is back ! autobuzz makes great videos no doubt, watched every one of them and still enjoys it

  • @JoyAmin666
    @JoyAmin666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    loved the review. but personal point of view this persona looks very underwhelming compared to older one. i had the black one manual, that car felt heavy, powerful, great suspension and looked awesome on road,this looks like a toad and soft small car. perhaps a better engine and interior but older one was a beast. esp black and purple ones looked so good

  • @Neo.555
    @Neo.555 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gc Mah.. Thanks for yet another good review... But we need a lot more!!! City, Ioniq!, New Cerato or a comparison btw new Cerato and civic. Can't wait to see Elantra turbo, New Optima etc in q2 this year!

  • @user-ln8rr3dl1p
    @user-ln8rr3dl1p 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good review!! Bro can review the new proton perdana? thx

  • @mezangify
    @mezangify 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    put off by those "THE GOOODD" and the "THE BUUTTT" sound......

  • @reko3103
    @reko3103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    looking at the exterior; the only thing I like about this car are those brake lights. I would say unique. Am I the only one?

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Reko Sri
      just European. They have them in French & Italian cars too

  • @aisyah1707sf
    @aisyah1707sf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GC Mah..You better work with Proton,your pride.

  • @zaruliqmal7344
    @zaruliqmal7344 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yey i been waiting for this!!!!

  • @nancytan9832
    @nancytan9832 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Autobuzz Do a review of the Perodua Bezza advance :)

  • @lukescuzzirfan1931
    @lukescuzzirfan1931 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THE GOOOOD!!!..THE BUT..hahaha ..the tone you made. so funny...👍🏿👍🏿

  • @hengweiteh
    @hengweiteh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A perodua bezza review would be great !

  • @mkwkdk
    @mkwkdk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    All I heard is THE GOOD... THE BUT....

  • @mr.yeetsus8848
    @mr.yeetsus8848 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can u review the Perodua Bezza Advance and the new Axia

  • @ivanlim1990
    @ivanlim1990 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    would like to see you review the perdana next

    • @NokiaHumanForm
      @NokiaHumanForm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      me too waiting for Perdana review

  • @AzrinSunbae
    @AzrinSunbae 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice one AutoBuzz!!!

  • @nawwalzaharan3651
    @nawwalzaharan3651 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man i just loved 'the good' and 'the but' sound's

  • @azim2001ful
    @azim2001ful 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please make a review of PERODUA BEZZA

  • @didi7458
    @didi7458 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ada tak review utk persona manual?

  • @syathibiy
    @syathibiy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car deserves a bigger rim. 16" would look better on it

  • @aaronming8466
    @aaronming8466 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your reviews. Good Job

  • @keryjr785
    @keryjr785 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i personally really REALLY like the back. it has a european look to it.

  • @mmm17_
    @mmm17_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job! I hope you can review the Subaru Forester non turbo please

  • @DylanChng
    @DylanChng 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the looks of the car

  • @jackychong26
    @jackychong26 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir, the 5.6L / 100km is manual spec la, not auto la. auto is 6.1L / 100km la. don't confuse other potential buyer la

  • @yusrimusim9945
    @yusrimusim9945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please review proton persona 2019 facelift

  • @theplushhedgehog6755
    @theplushhedgehog6755 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the car does not come with arm rest? I think Central console is an very good feature in any car.

  • @afeeqhasan6621
    @afeeqhasan6621 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What's up with all the new Proton cars having their wheels be so small? It looks ugly. also what is up with the narrow and tall body styling? It's hideous.

    • @sputnikfreshie3601
      @sputnikfreshie3601 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Afeeq Hasan eco car have small tyre, same like bezza axia saga

  • @CCPJAYLPHAN1994
    @CCPJAYLPHAN1994 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    definitely better than Bezza

    • @Nabilllllll
      @Nabilllllll 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CCPJAYLPHAN1994 of course

    • @JackyYBT
      @JackyYBT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CCPJAYLPHAN1994 bezza is an A segment car, but Persona is a B segment. To compare both car kinda unfair

    • @Nabilllllll
      @Nabilllllll 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jacky YBT well the price is nearly the same and i dont think buyers out there going to compare the car by it's "segment" .

    • @faaizaccel3104
      @faaizaccel3104 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      useless comparison..
      bezza from 39k to 50k
      persona from 46k to 60k
      bezza compete with saga 37k to 46k

    • @JackyYBT
      @JackyYBT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Faaiz Accel totally agree with you, bezza should compare to saga instead of persona

  • @jerrylee7197
    @jerrylee7197 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please review the latest VW Tiguan, Tks

  • @ismail.wahab99
    @ismail.wahab99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    at last.. 2017 facelifted axia se or adv would be interesting since nobody review it properly.

    • @sputnikfreshie3601
      @sputnikfreshie3601 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ismail Wahab thats true... Majority Malaysians will buy affordable car not some expensive mercs or bemmer

  • @server2go
    @server2go 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    wow ...finally ..I thought proton improved the CVT but based on this review I guess it's still not that good !

    • @germaineliew2012
      @germaineliew2012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shan Andy I'm glad the Iriz is one of the cars in Malaysia where you can choose manual across the range.

    • @BurN368
      @BurN368 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who let the (DA)Pigs out ?

    • @TheZaman_
      @TheZaman_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should try test drive first.

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the review says there's the 'CVT clutch jerk' in the Persona. I personally think its a car trait that disappears with extensive use. As a driver, you get use to the clutch jerk and learn to get around it, reducing the jerk.

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      amimjk
      betul bro. As you drive, your foot responds better to the CVT. Hence, less/ 0 jerk felt. Its not a big issue, so am surprised the review sees that as an issue here

  • @wmd3477
    @wmd3477 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GC pls review the honda city 2017!

  • @BrandonKissol
    @BrandonKissol 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Review the top spec Perodua Bezza and the new facelifted Axia?

  • @406reject
    @406reject 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should've put this engine in the saga instead.

  • @zulhelmi1996
    @zulhelmi1996 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do a review for the facelift axia please

  • @callmedhee
    @callmedhee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the tire looks small or it does really a small size tire?

  • @JianChen31
    @JianChen31 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why does the design looks so similar to the Bezza?Like nth bigger

  • @muhammadbadiuzzamanmohdbaz7119
    @muhammadbadiuzzamanmohdbaz7119 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Proton perdana please...

  • @zaidzainal6381
    @zaidzainal6381 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the review. It really shows when you would rather review other cars than this one, hahahaa..

  • @telugenaswasa352
    @telugenaswasa352 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the difference between preve and persona .?

  • @predeeban
    @predeeban 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pls review the facelifted honda accord

  • @HazimieAbdulKarim
    @HazimieAbdulKarim 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think this video got no sponsor from any as compared to the vios facelift review for eg. Lol just kidding I mean not interesting as the other review by autobuzz .

  • @zaryl2k
    @zaryl2k 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    GC, pls do review on Honda BRV pls thank you.

  • @ThePASBERUK
    @ThePASBERUK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FINALLY !!!!!!!

  • @imtang071
    @imtang071 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think i heard the wind sound?
    if there is no music played during driving will be better for us to hear

    • @microvizart
      @microvizart 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If happened, this issue easily solved by going to service centre and they will replace the door lining, and the problem will be solved. Im a Persona user myself

  • @BenL1242
    @BenL1242 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honda city please!!!

  • @theplushhedgehog6755
    @theplushhedgehog6755 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the car does not come with armrest?

  • @justinlzt
    @justinlzt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pls review the Honda brv

  • @arvinravichandran
    @arvinravichandran 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Review Proton perdana

  • @ildico
    @ildico 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seems like you are forced to do the review.

  • @sriethivyan6701
    @sriethivyan6701 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    honda city 2017 please

  • @Niko-pd5gy
    @Niko-pd5gy ปีที่แล้ว

    Im your 200th comment, any giveaway for me ?

  • @007smh
    @007smh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do the bezza advance pls

  • @yhwe100
    @yhwe100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Proton doesn't understand the stickers that says, "QC Passed". They paste this stickers on every part of the car. Yet the car has lots of defects. Bad experience with owning one and will never trust buying another one.

  • @darrshenjunior895
    @darrshenjunior895 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    review corolla altis 2017

  • @60dansen
    @60dansen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a review on a gtr R35

  • @croness91
    @croness91 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    who is proton head of design? i just wanted to talk...

  • @Blazilvez
    @Blazilvez 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    do a Perodua Bezza review as well

  • @aku1031
    @aku1031 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this time, the video review is annoying with 'the good,the but'..wth..but the review itself is simple and easy to understand

  • @ildico
    @ildico 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...and it's short too!

  • @pursotman998
    @pursotman998 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    pls review proton preve & inspira & satria

  • @hazelnuts23
    @hazelnuts23 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Pretty much a lazy review.... We want a proper review like the other video. Cant even hear your voice clear.

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Syafiq Azizi
      rite. I like his earlier review of the Iriz. big difference

  • @crys4777
    @crys4777 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    review on latest axia thanks

  • @khemnuel
    @khemnuel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its the same car showcased on their website!
    www.proton.com/en/find-a-car/persona

  • @kevinbenavidez6593
    @kevinbenavidez6593 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please review mitsubishi pajero sport 2017

  • @firyxx
    @firyxx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What do you mean by it jerks? It's a CVT.

    • @pauljaa4719
      @pauljaa4719 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a clutch-based CVT means there slight jerking when it engages the gear to move. There's also torque converter-based CVT which is smoother in operation. Proton uses the former while most Japanese CVT's use the latter.

  • @akmalazmi8530
    @akmalazmi8530 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    which saves oil better? persona or bezza?

    • @faaizaccel3104
      @faaizaccel3104 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Akmal Azmi bezza for sure..but for comfort driving persona better..

  • @akhmuadz
    @akhmuadz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is just an executive one... Premium bot different body kit rite? Correct me if I'm wrong.... 🤣

    • @TheHimmy07
      @TheHimmy07 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      akhmuadz D'Zunnur this is premium. The one with body kit is optional which costs extra RM1k. Executive variant doesn't have push start button, nor touch screen head unit.

    • @faaizaccel3104
      @faaizaccel3104 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      akhmuadz D'Zunnur only premium have touchscreen and push to start. optional bodykit need to add 1k and only people who buy premium variant can add the bodykit. thats annoying rite? haha

    • @akhmuadz
      @akhmuadz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Faaiz Accel o i c thanks guys

    • @akhmuadz
      @akhmuadz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheHimmy07 yalor...

    • @bujangterlajak7634
      @bujangterlajak7634 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Faaiz Accel me buy the executive varian can add for the bodykit.lok

  • @jym608
    @jym608 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now review the face lift persona

  • @JasonTanMartian
    @JasonTanMartian 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The engine looks dirty bro

  • @asfazrulhakimi7842
    @asfazrulhakimi7842 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    do at perodua bezza please

  • @timapplepie
    @timapplepie 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem of AutoBuzz videos are the voice sound! Its like u talking in the closet.. come on get a proper speaker for us to indulge your awesome reviews!

  • @TheMostwanded
    @TheMostwanded 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Proton CVT = Good luck on the road

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      willson chang
      do read my comments above too. Honestly, a good driver will know if there's a CVT jerk n adjust his/ her driving accordingly.😀

  • @ongkevin5306
    @ongkevin5306 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota hilux 2016 2.4g ! Please! Not much on TH-cam

  • @bryeap
    @bryeap 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    this or proton saga?

  • @edgehogR
    @edgehogR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, but can you please stop releasing both hands from the wheel while driving, every time you do that it makes my hands sweat.

  • @shaunlee189
    @shaunlee189 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know the car isn't that great when they don't even take it up Genting. 🤣

  • @ajamyunus1881
    @ajamyunus1881 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matthew please...

  • @danial5861
    @danial5861 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Max Speed???

  • @asip2274
    @asip2274 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh yeah

  • @GreysMonster
    @GreysMonster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gosh the proportions on this thing looks off hahahaa

  • @jemieyoe8000
    @jemieyoe8000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sape la yg reka design kereta ni.. mcm katak kaki pendek aku tgok.. katak tgh kembang pom ade.... makin maju makin kolot idea.. cuba la reka design yg nmpak smart skit... buruk la... persona lama lagi rilex n nmpak la sporty....

  • @dexstex
    @dexstex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proton fans,
    Did you know?
    Proton was not made on Malaysia. (Not 1ST GEN Saga,Arena,Tiara dan Wira)
    It was actually made on China (Geely).

  • @adli15_
    @adli15_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'the buuuut'
    *shows the butt of the car*

  • @kakitangan1991
    @kakitangan1991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maisarah

  • @xa2148
    @xa2148 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    why the tire so ridiculous small

  • @bryanjschang
    @bryanjschang 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    review perdana

  • @jamilraismohamedzainal
    @jamilraismohamedzainal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    demmm....enjin berhabuk....cucila sikit give face la fren...this is national pride...do it nicely la

    • @TheMusaz58
      @TheMusaz58 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is not national car anymore la Pak cik. almost all share holders​ are from China. Kira dah mcm cina punya kereta la. Najib sayang Malaysia la

    • @jamilraismohamedzainal
      @jamilraismohamedzainal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ..kalau bangla punya pun cuci la sikit...

    • @suryafarabracke4701
      @suryafarabracke4701 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      jamil rais mohamed zainal Awak pakai kereta Ferrari ke? Tengok semua komen anti sangat dengan proton ni..Semua usaha nampak x bagus je ni..rupa babi la..apa la..padahal yang disokong tu jelas lah lagi x elok.

    • @jamilraismohamedzainal
      @jamilraismohamedzainal 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      aku pakai honda city tahun 2010.... tang mana yang keta rupa babi...babi yg tak elok pun org bagi mandi...cuci la sikit keta tu...pandi

    • @jamilraismohamedzainal
      @jamilraismohamedzainal 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      you kutip mana ini fakta... have a principal pls

  • @VacancyJB
    @VacancyJB 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    small rim big body...weird design.

  • @weldon29
    @weldon29 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would buy a one 2nd had for 20k
    60k? nahhh

    • @Nabilllllll
      @Nabilllllll 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      壹貳 your fucking point is?

    • @weldon29
      @weldon29 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My point is that it's overpriced
      Thought that was pretty fucking obvious
      but I guess some dumbasses needs everything to be spelt out for them

    • @justarandomstickminwithaha6984
      @justarandomstickminwithaha6984 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      壹貳 so will you buy a New face lifted Toyota vios with original price point?If persona compare to this vehicle,the spec is not that left behind that much.Just vios cost 20-30 grands more.
      Tell me are there any car with the new persona top spec with a price tag of RM 20K?

    • @afeeqhasan6621
      @afeeqhasan6621 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Firz Zen Tons if it was not for outrageous taxes on cars.

    • @justarandomstickminwithaha6984
      @justarandomstickminwithaha6984 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Afeeq Hasan without taxes the price just going down like 10-15%.Just use your brain man,with our currency exchange values,no hopping to get a new & great car below 60K.Unless we live in USA,UAE & England where you can find a car below 20K in their currency like the toyota Camry Hybrid.which is considered cheap.
      That is why they can afford a car that cost like 100K-200K in our country like buying a super bike in our country which cost like 20K-30K.

  • @MyNemesis123
    @MyNemesis123 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha... I just wonder why new saga n persona got ugly design, who approve the design, really want to meet him/her..for saga they make curvy inward shape for the butt, n pair it with grumpy shape rear lamp which make the back of saga looks smaller, why we need 'A' segment car look smaller? Lol..